Subject: Alt.folklore.herbs - medicinal herb FAQ (v.1.19) Part 7/7
Date: 22 Mar 1996 21:47:15 GMT
Summary: Frequently asked questions with answers, a general
 introduction to and a resource list for medicinal herbs.

Posting-Frequency: monthly (on or about 20th)
Version: 1.19

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6 Teachings and stuff
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If you know of any good additions please let me know.

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6.1 Apprenticeships offered lately
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Howie Brounstein, Columbines and Wizardry Herbs, Inc.
(howieb@teleport.com)
You'll find his offer on his homepage:
http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html

The rest of the stuff on his homepage is readable, too.
Go get a laugh at Fad herbs, or read up on smoking herbs, or mugwort.
Have fun.

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Michael Moore, Southwest School of Botanical Medicine.
His offer is found on his homepage:
http://www.rt66.com/hrbmoore/HOMEPAGE/HomePage.html.

Actually he's fully booked for 1996, and means to take a sabbatical
1997. So get prepared for 1998...

While you're on site have a good look at all the goodies.

If you are not a beginner, get the big textfiles - Herbal Materia
Medica, Herbal Repertory, Herbal/Medical Dictionary, Herbal-Medical
Contraindications, Specific Indications, Herbal Tinctures, Herbal
Energetics, and anything else that might have been added. But _do_
download the Herbal Energetics.

These are summaries of how to prepare and use plants you already
know in ways you already know (even though you didn't necessarily
know that you can use THAT plant in THIS way before reading the
stuff).

Then go get the plant folders - GOOD stuff. Funny, too, like most
of the more wordy stuff (watch me look up some strange medicinese
word in his Dictionary and start to grin over those descriptions
... whew.)

Then get the Classic Texts. And read them, too.
And then all the pictures and illustrations and whatever else
you might find - most of it is Well Worth Downloading.

I think that ftp is better for downloading the LOADS of stuff you
can get from this site, so I asked would he want an FTP mirror. Yes
he would. Michael Moore updates the files on his WWW site constantly;
I download the new stuff to SunSITE once a week or at least once every
second week. Use ftp to go to sunsite.unc.edu (or sunsite.sut.ac.jp)
and cd to
  /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/SWSBM/
You can also try gopher:
gopher://sunsite.unc.edu/11/.pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare
  /herbal-medicine/SWSBM/

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Roy Collins, Tidewater Institute of Herbal Studies.
(ac956@osfn.rhilinet.gov)
He offers an annual apprenticeship program (non-certificate) with is
held once per month for twelve months (on Sundays, starting in fall).
He is 3-1/2 hours from NYC and 1 hour from Boston. If interested
send e-mail to him or send snail mail to Tidewater Institute of
Herbal Studies, 101 Van Zandt Ave., Warwick, RI 02889.

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6.2 Pointers to schools
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Try the Herbal Hall. They've a LOT of schools on their WWW page:
http://www.crl.com/~robbee/herbal.html

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From EProvence@aol.com (Eugenia Provence):
Both the American Herb Association (AHA), PO Box 1673, Nevada City,
CA  95959 and the American Herbalist Guild (AHG), PO Box 1127,
Forestville, CA 95436 publish directories of schools and classes
in the US.

You will be sure to find one that appeals to your approach to
herbalism, whether that's a folk or a scientific approach.

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On the herblist July 1995:

From Roy Collins, ac956@osfn.rhilinet.gov:

Although I've heard a lot good things about Dominion Herbal College
(in Burnaby, BC) it is basically a correspondence school. Nothing beats
hands on field work and direct interaction with a flesh and blood
teacher. There are numerous schools that offer *certificates* of
graduation from herb schools, but the herbal profession is not a
licensed practiced in the U.S. and legal repercussions can occur, as
it is defined as a form of medical practice.

This is not true in England and the European countries, however, and
licensing is commonplace. One way of getting around this is to find a
good Naturopathic School (which incorporates the use of herbs) and to
become a licensed Dr. of Naturopathy (N.D.) and set up practice. I
believe many states (including Connecticut) *allow* this alternative
medical art to be practiced. The names and addresses for both herbal
schools and schools of Naturopathy are regularly published in the
advertising sections of health, herb, and vegetarian magazines.

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6.2.1  ND degrees and accreditation
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Eric Yarnell <yarnell@scn.org>

There are three naturopathic medical schools in the United States which
are accredited or in the process of being accredited.

The accrediting agency is the Council on Naturopathic Medical Education
(CNME). The CNME can be contacted at:  402-391-6714, POB 11426, Eugene
OR, 97440. The CNME is accredited by the US Department of Education and
is the only recognized licensing agency for naturopathic medical
schools in the US.

Bastyr University was the first accredited school in the US.  The
school can be contacted at:
206-523-9585
144 NE 54th St, Seattle WA  98105
The school will be relocated to a new campus in summer 1996.
The school offers a certificate in Chinese herbal medicine, degrees in
acupuncture and nutrition, and other offerings besides the ND degree.

National College of Naturopathic Medicine (NCNM) is the oldest
continuously operating naturopathic medical school in the US.  It can
be reached at:
503-255-4860
11231 SE Market St, Portland OR  97216
It offers an ND degree.

The Southwest College of Naturopathio Medicine and Health Sciences is
the newest naturopathic medical school.  It can be reached at:
602-990-7424
6535 E Osborn Rd, Ste 703, Scottsdale AZ  85251
The campus will be moving eventually, perhaps in 1997.
The school offers an ND degree.

States which offer licenses to people who have graduated with an ND
from one of these three schools, after passing the Naturopathic
Physicians Licensing Exam (NPLEx):
Alaska, Arizona, Connecticut, Hawaii, New Hampshire, Montana, Oregon,
Washington

There are additional recognized ND licenses in Utah and Florida.  No
new licenses are being granted in those states, however.

The naturopathic medical school in Canada considered legitimate by
the above groups is the Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine:
416-251-5261
60 Berl Ave, Toronto ON  M8Y 3C7
British Columbia and Ontaria currently license NDs who pass licensing
exams and who have graduated from any of the four legitimate
naturopathic medical schools with an ND.

Botanical medicine is an important part of naturopathic therapy.  NDs
are the only health care professionals licensed specifically to treat
using medicinal herbs, and who are explicitly trained as physicians in
the use of said agents.

Other resources:

Federation of Naturopathic Medical Licensing Boards, Inc.
602-937-4756
5002 W Glendale Ave, Ste 101, Glendale AZ  85301

American Association of Naturopathic Physicians (AANP)
206-328-8510
2366 Eastlake Ave E, Ste 322
Seattle WA  98102

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From: tim@thorne.thorne.com (Tim Birdsall, ND)

Just as of last week, Utah passed a naturopathic licensure bill, which has
been signed into law by the governor, so Utah is now on the list of
licensed states.

Web pages:
  Bastyr University: http://www.bastyr.edu

  American Association of Naturopathic Physicians
  http://infinity.dorsai.org/Naturopathic.Physician/

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about Clayton's 'ND' correspondence courses - which are 'accredited':

From: Paul Bergner <bergner@teleport.com>
Subject: Clayton School

Someone recently posted that the Clayton School had obtained
"accreditation". By what body, may I ask? Is it something recognized by
the Department of Education, or is it some form of gratuitous self-
accreditation? The test of legitimacy is whether students are eligible
for government student loans.

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From: tim@thorne.thorne.com (Tim Birdsall, ND)

I have absolutely no quarrel with distance learning. However there is a
substantive difference between getting an MBA by home study and getting
a health care degree! How can you learn physical diagnosis without
someone standing over your shoulder saying "No, the spleen is here." or
"Yes, this person's liver feels enlarged." To the best of my knowledge,
no other health care profession has any legitimate degrees offered
exclusively via home study.

Tim

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6.3 Correspondence courses in the UK
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from David Powner

Details of Correspondence courses in the UK.

As far as I'm aware, there is only the one college that offers proper
qualifications via mail.

The School of Phytotherapy
Bucksteep Manor
Bodle Street Green
Nr. Hailsham BN27 4 RJ
Phone: (0)1323 833812
Fax  : (0)1323 833869

This college does several courses:

Four year full time residential course. This now leads to a B.Sc.
Honours Degree in Phytotherapy, and one is legally permitted to
practice as a Medical Herbalist upon qualification, and to apply for
membership of a professional body such as NIMH (National Institute
of Medical Herbalists). Current Fees: GBP 3,900.00 per year

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Four year correspondence course. Similar to above, with a Diploma in
Herbal Medicine. Also permits the practising of Herbal Medicine, and
to apply for professional membership.
Current Fees: 160 sterling per quarter excluding books, seminars,
exams etc.

There is also a requirement to undertake 500 hours of clinical
training at about 2.50 sterling per hour - spread over the four years.
Also yearly seminars at a cost of 140 each (excluding accommodation)

Overseas students can arrange to have their clinical training with an
approved herbalist in their own country, but the 5 day seminars are
only held in the UK - one each year, and are obligatory.

This is the course that I'm aiming at taking; it involves 20/30 hrs
per week studying, but I reckon it's good value for money. Depends
what you want out of it!

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One Year correspondence course: leads to a Certificate of Herbal
studies, but does not permit the practicing of Herbal Medicine. It is
necessary to attend an examination/seminar at the end of the year if
the certificate is required.
Current Fees: 130 sterling per quarter or 475 if paid in full in
advance. The weekend seminar is 80 sterling (excluding accommodation)

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There are other courses for GPs & Osteopaths etc., and Introductory
and Preliminary courses in Biology & Chemistry. The college has
recently had degree status granted for their four year residential
course, as herbal medicine is regaining worldwide acceptance.

David Powner <David@filtermx.demon.co.uk>

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6.4 Etc.

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6.4.1  Southwest Conference on Botanical Medicine
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Saturday April 20th - Sunday April 21st 1996
Tempe, Arizona

Panel Discussion - Botanical Treatment of Chronic Disease [allergies,
asthma, arthritis and inflammatory bowel disease]

Panelists - Don Brown, ND; Tori Hudson, ND; Michael Moore; Roy Upton;
Terry Willard, PhD; and Lisa Alschuler, ND

For more info call:     (800) 252-0688

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6.4.2  1996 Herb Festival - "Herbs Around The World"
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"Herbs Around The World" will be held on 9/7/96 from 10:00am to 5:00pm
on the grounds of Hill Top Nursery & Herbal Garden in Southern New
Jersey.  We are located 20 minutes north west of Atlantic City, 40
minutes south east of Phila. and 2.5 hours from Washington, DC.  Last
year's festival, "Herbal Nutrition, Preventative Medicine" was a huge
success.  This year we intend to triple attendance.  There is no charge
for admission, lectures, displays or demonstrations.  We charge a
parking fee of $1.00 per vehicle to encourage car-pooling and the
herbal buffet luncheon breaks down to less than $5.00 per person.  Our
goal is not profit, but education and involvement.  Some of the issues
that we will be addressing are bio-diversity, heirloom seed
preservation, organic agriculture, ethnobotany, environmental
conservation, and the many uses of herbs, etc.  We are currently
looking for crafters, demonstrators & speakers.  Contact Anita
Beckwith, Hill Top Nursery & Herbal Garden, PO Box 115, 5916 Duerer
Street, Egg Harbor, NJ  08215-0115 (609-965-0337) for details.

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7 Check these sites:
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Among the goodies you'll find the AFH archives, Michael Moore's files,
and some nice WWW pages.

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7.1 FTP sites with info on medicinal herbs

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7.1.1  Sunsite Herb archives
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If you find sunSITE.unc.edu is too busy to give you anonymous access
you can try the mirror site in Japan, SunSITE.sut.ac.jp, path:
/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/
  herbal-references/... or herbal-medicine/...
This mirror is now up and running.

There's lots of mirrors elsewhere, too, but I haven't yet checked if
they carry the herbfiles.

----- by Lawrence London (london@sunsite.unc.edu):

This document (Herb_Archives) is the 8-6-1995 update of:
ftp://sunSITE.unc.edu/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/
      herbal-references/Herb_Archives
http://sunSITE.unc.edu/london/Herb_Archives
For more information contact:
london@sunSITE.unc.edu, hkress@sunSITE.unc.edu (Hey! That's me!) or
rmccaleb@sunSITE.unc.edu

WWW (lynx available via telnet for vt100 users) URL Info:
http://sunSITE.unc.edu/london/Herb_Archives.html
http://sunSITE.unc.edu/london/Information_By_Topic.html
http://sunSITE.unc.edu/herbmed/ Henriette Kress' archives
http://sunSITE.unc.edu/herbs/ Herb Research Foundation

  ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/
herbal-references/ and Herb-Research-Foundation/ and
herbal-medicine/ and herbal-medicine/SWSBM/
  gopher://sunsite.unc.edu/11/.pub/academic/medicine/
        alternative-healthcare/herbal-references/ and herbal-medicine/
        and Herb-Research-Foundation/ and herbal-medicine/SWSBM/
  ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/agriculture/sustainable_agriculture/
gardening/ or gardening-faqs/
  gopher://sunsite.unc.edu/11/.pub/academic/agriculture/
        sustainable_agriculture/gardening/ or gardening-faqs/

Gopher: gopher sunSITE.unc.edu or use URL, then go to these menus:
The Worlds of sunSITE
  browse sunSITE archives
    academic
      medicine
        alternative healthcare
          herbal-references
          herbal-medicine
          Herb-Research-Foundation
The Worlds of sunSITE
  Sustainable Agriculture Information
    gardening
    gardening-faqs
  -or-
  browse sunSITE archives
    academic
      agriculture
        sustainable_agriculture
          gardening
          gardening-faqs

Anonymous FTP:
  ftp sunSITE.unc.edu
  Login: anonymous
  Password: (enter your Internet E-Mail ID)
  cd pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/
     herbal-references/faqs/ and herbal-medicine/ and
     Herb-Research-Foundation/
  cd pub/academic/agriculture/sustainable_agriculture/
     gardening or gardening-faqs/

Ftpmail (Send e-mail to ftpmail@sunsite.unc.edu for helpfile on
  ftpmail usage)
WAIS (also available by telnet; follow login instructions)

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In herbal-references:
There's lots of stuff to see - just browse once you're there.

Under herbal-medicine:
my archives. Just have a look. If you have homeless herbal files
drop me a note.

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7.1.2  Herbal Hall
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Rob Bidleman keeps this site up-to-date:
ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/ro/robbee/HERB
There's a wealth of files on medicinal herbs.

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7.2 Interesting WWW pages
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Use a Search Engine to search for WWW pages on specific plants.
I'll only list the most important herbal WWW pages. And you'll find
links to the rest on Algy's page.

Michael Moore's homepage:
http://www.rt66.com/hrbmoore/HOMEPAGE/HomePage.html
Southwest School of Botanical Medicine. Lots of goodies.
All things found here are also available by ftp or gopher on sunsite.
See 6.1 above.

Howie Brounstein's homepage:
http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html
Columbine and Wizardry Herbs. Lots of goodies. See 6.1 above.

Algy's herb page, picture version: http://www.pair.com/algy/herb.html
Algy's herb page, non-picture version: http://www.pair.com/algy/herb2.html
THE page with all the links you need. Constantly updated. Good stuff.

Herbal Hall, Rob Bidleman: http://www.crl.com/~robbee/herbal.html
You can also get there by ftp: ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/ro/robbee/HERB.
It seems Rob doesn't have too much time to update things, so get
Howie Brounstein's and Michael Moore's stuff from their own homepages.

Henriette's Herbal Homepage: http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed/
Herblist and AFH archives, herbfaqs, pictures, and things. (Tehehe.)

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8 Mailing lists

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8.1 The Herblist, the Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list
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To post to the list: write an article and send it to:
  HERB@trearnpc.ege.edu.tr
To subscribe: write to listserv@trearnpc.ege.edu.tr with the following text:
  SUBscribe HERB (your full name)
If you only wish the digest (to get all posts for the previous day in
one email message) you can add another line
  SET HERB DIGEST

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8.2 The Aromatherapy list
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To post to the list: write an article and send it to:
  aromatherapy@metron.com
To subscribe: write to listserv@idma.com with the following text:
  subscribe aromatherapy-l
or, if you want it to another address than the one you're at when
subscribing:
  subscribe aromatherapy-l other-address@your_site.your_net

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8.3 The Holistic list: Holistic Discussion Group
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To post an article: write an article and send it to:
  holistic@siucvmb.bitnet
To subscribe: write to listserv@siucvmb.siu.edu with the following text:
  SUBscribe HOLISTIC (your full name)
(report on the herblist: this address works if above doesn't:
  listserv%siucvmb.bitnet@vm42.cso.uiuc.edu)
If you only wish the digest you can add another line:
  SET HOLISTIC DIGEST

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8.4 The Kombucha list
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To subscribe: write to kombucha-request@shore.net with the following
text:
  SUBSCRIBE
(If this doesn't work try HELP to the same address.)

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8.5 The Paracelsus Mailing list
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Subscription is limited to practitioners, educators, researchers and
students in alternative and conventional medical fields.

To subscribe: write to majordomo@teleport.com with the following text:
  SUBSCRIBE PARACELSUS
and, as part of the subscription approval process, send a biographical
note indicating training, practice and interests to
  paracelsus@teleport.com.

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8.6 The OrMed Mailing List - Oriental Medicine Mailing List
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To post to the list: write an article and send it to:
  OrMed@bkhouse.cts.com
To subscribe: write to listserv@bkhouse.cts.com with the following
text:
  SUBSCRIBE emailaddress OrMed
(like SUBSCRIBE joe@abc.edu OrMed)

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8.7 The Homeopathy List
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To subscribe: write to homeopathy-request@dungeon.com with the
following text:
  SUBSCRIBE Homeopathy

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8.8 The Phytopharmacognosy List
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They really don't want to be bogged down with questions like 'what do
you use garlic for', preferring to discuss plant chemicals. If you
can't either do that or lurk without disturbing them don't subscribe.

To subscribe:
write a message with only the text
  JOIN Phytopharmacognosy first name(s) Last name
to: Mailbase@Mailbase.ac.uk
Subject: <none>

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8.9 The Culinary Herblist
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This is the list for the gardening and use of culinary herbs:
To subscribe:
write a message with only the text
  subscribe herbs
to: Majordomo@teleport.com
Subject: <none>

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9 Related newsgroups
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You might want too check
  misc.health.alternative
  rec.gardens
  rec.food.preserving
  bionet.plants
  sci.med.*
  alt.support.cancer.prostate
  alt.support.sinusitis
  alt.support.prostate.prostatitis
  alt.aromatherapy (comes complete with the usual complaint: 'my site
    doesn't carry this one' - well mine doesn't so I can't say what
    they talk about over there)

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