From the Radio Free Michigan archives ftp://141.209.3.26/pub/patriot If you have any other files you'd like to contribute, e-mail them to bj496@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu. ------------------------------------------------ >I have been watching, with much more than idle curiosity, the discussion (and >ALL discussions which mention or relate in any way, shape, or form) of >reclaiming your sovereignty. > >I am thinking of doing this myself (probably not a wise thing to say out loud, >so to speak, but nobody ever said that I was bubbling over with wisdom...). My >problem is that my wife just can't seem to catch the vision of the differences >between a Citizen and a citizen. I've tried the standard arguments/examples, >but there is something that is not quite clicking. Of course, it took more >than once for to catch it, so I am not trying to derrogate here. > >I have a question and a request to toss out for those of you who have already >gone through this, or are currently working on it... > >First the question(s): How did you present this to your spouse/family so that >they understood and were convinced that it was worth it? What about your >friends? What about your employer? If you studied it and decided NOT to go >through with it, then why not? > >Next the request: If we do go through this, I will need a ton of information >on how to make this happen. Could you please send me copies of forms, >details of problems, etc, etc. > >Thanks muchly, friends... > >Lee Lee: I have begun the "process" and am with a Fortune 100 company. I have a meeting next month with a representative from our Human Relations department do discuss the situation and explain my position. The first thing that I did was to file a Certificate of Exemption in Liew of W-4 claiming to be exempt from federal tax withholdings. This did not take care of withholding SS and MediCare and I am in the process of finding the best way to get out of the SS system. My company did not have a problem with the Certificate of Exemption (even though they had never seen one submitted before). The payroll department's response to me was, "We will have to report this to the IRS." My response to that was, "Of course you will, it's their codes that I am citing cliaming to be exempt and I would expect you to let them know about it." In all probability the IRS has flagged me. As for getting my wife to sign on, I cited the Contitution several times (noting the difference in "C"itizenship before the 14th Amendment and "c"itizenship after the 14 Amendment). My in-laws think that what I am doing is admirable; my parents are ashamed of me and think that I am unpatriotic. I tried to explain to them that I am an American, not a U.S. citizen, but that did not help. I'm at a loss with trying to sway their opinion. My friends and co-workers tease me, but are generally interested and supportive (the joke around the office is when a group goes to lunch and and we decide who "drives" and someone will say, "Well, David won't 'drive', but he'll 'travel'". Keep in mind that this is not a "process" that is written down anywhere that you can just follow step by step (although the book that Tim Richardson recommended sounds promising). Everyone's situation is different and may require different steps. The way that I am approaching it is that I am trying to avoiding accepting _any_ benefit from being a "U.S. citizen". It's not easy. I would suggest getting The Federal Zone, by Mitch Modeleski and Reclaiming Sovereign Citizenship by Johnny Liberty. Read them with your wife and try and piece the complex puzzel together "together". I'll let you klnow how my meeting with HR goes. Here is how to order the books I mentioned: The Federal Zone Account for Better Citizenship c/o USPS Post Office Box 6189 San Rafael, California Republic Postal Code 94903-0189/TDC Send 25 FRN's in the form of a money order with the Payee line blank Reclaiming Your Sovereign Citizenship Casadian Resource Center P.O. Box 5290 Eugene, Oregon Republic Postal Code 97405 Send 33 FRN's Hope this helps. David Price Galt and Associates Phoenix, Arizona "Darkness has a call that's insatiable, and Lightness has a call that's hard to hear." ------------------------------------------------ (This file was found elsewhere on the Internet and uploaded to the Radio Free Michigan site by the archive maintainer. All files are ZIP archives for fast download. E-mail bj496@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu)