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Topic 12        Tue Feb 08, 1994
A.DEFFENDERF [ALAN]          at 23:05 EST
Sub: Falcon Accelerators ....

 This is the place to discuss the new accelerators for the Falcon.....
203 message(s) total.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 1         Tue Feb 08, 1994
A.DEFFENDERF [ALAN]          at 23:07 EST

 Does anyone know anything about the new line of accelerators for the Falcon
or doeas anyone have one?  What sort of speed improvement is it?  How
compatible are they?

Alan D
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 2         Thu Feb 10, 1994
ATARI.BENLUX [W. Kilwinger]  at 08:34 EST

In Germany there are at least 3 accelarators available. I don't know all the
details. OverScan seems to come with an 68040-based accelarator within the
next couple of months.

Specs range from 20% till 80% speed improvement (for the one with extra TT
(fast) RAM.

Regards,

Wilfred

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 3         Thu Feb 10, 1994
AEO.7 [Gregg]                at 20:46 EST

Wilfred.... Now if someone can come out with a two piece Falcon with 8-14 Meg
of Falcon RAM (ST RAM?) and the same amount of TT RAM with a VME slot or two
I'll be a happy camper.  If they can do it for the price of a TT or less I'll
be a VERY happy camper, especially if we can add in a higher resolution mode
in the TT-High range <grin>......

Who says we can't dream?

Greg
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 4         Wed Feb 16, 1994
A.YU [ATY COMPUTER]          at 00:42 EST

We have just installed both versions of the 32mhz accelerator boards for
Falcon030. The Eagle Sonic 32 is a small board that fit completely inside the
original Falcon030 case. Installation requires soldering 10 wires to various
loactions on the Falcon030's motherboard. Also two pins from the original
68030 cpu need to be desolder off the motherboard. Since the cpu was surface
mounted so desoldering the two pins off the motherboard requires great care
and good expertise. The bigger version is the Might Sonic 32, basic
installtion is about the same. It has 8 simm socket for 4, 8, 16 or 32 meg
fast RAM upgrade. Since the board is two time the size of the Eagle Sonic's
the Falcon030 keyboard will no longer go back into the case. By either using
an external keyboard or move the whole Falcon030 into an IBM-type tower case
the space limitatio is gone. One very important note: Atari issued a Service
Bulletin in December 93 that all Falcon030's were affected by cpu clock
problems. So the fix is to eliminate that. Fortunately, the cpu clock problems
were not very obvious if you are not running Cubase Audio doing digital audio
recording. However, in order for either of the 32mhz board to work the
Falcon030 if so modified to correct cpu clock problem must be unmodified back
to original form. If you would like to have your Falcon030 unmodified please
contact us for service. ATY Computer (510)482-3775

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 5         Wed Feb 16, 1994
A.YU [ATY COMPUTER]          at 00:51 EST

We have two 32mhz accelerators for Falcon030 in stock. One of them even allow
you to add up to 32 meg TTfast RAM. We have installed one of each of these
boards. The boards are very compatible in fact if any software can't handle
the speed all you have to do is to disable the accelerator boards by not
running the activate program. You Falcon will then run from its own
68030/16mhz cpu. Please give us a call if you need more info. ATY Computer
(510)482-3774
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 6         Wed Feb 16, 1994
ARCHIVIST [Charlie]          at 15:07 EST

This is very good news. Thanks for bringing it to us!

Charlie/sysop
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 7         Wed Mar 09, 1994
T.BURTON                     at 20:49 EST

What is the scoop on the '040 board from Wizztronics? It is supposed to be out
soon. With a 33 mhz '040 it should blow a TT (and almost everything else)
away. Has anyone seen this board in action? I wonder how fast it is with the
16 mhz EC '040?

Shane
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 8         Sat Mar 26, 1994
B.DEWITT [Perfesser]         at 11:05 EST

So, any more info on Eagle Sonic and Mighty Sonic (is that their names)?
Compatibility problems? Speed comparisons with a stock Falcon (especially in
regards to graphics/rendering programs)? What exactly is the difference
between these two besides one is too big to fit inside a Falcon? What are the
prices? Are they worth it?

Inquiring minds want to know.... *grin*

Th' Perfesser

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 9         Sun Mar 27, 1994
R.BEATTY3 [Buffalo Bob]      at 07:59 EST

Perfesser,

I'm using Eagle Sonic regularly; the Falcon has a much snappier response time.
The gap between my TT and the Falcon has grown smaller.  I have found a number
of programs that don't run at 32 Mhz, but since software is required to enable
Eagle Sonic, it is a simple task to skip the accelleration.

Most productivity software works great.

 Bob Beatty
 Neutronics
 Honolulu, HI
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 10        Sat Apr 02, 1994
B.DEWITT [Perfesser]         at 13:03 EST

Buffalo Bob;

Thanks for your reply to my question about Eagle Sonic. Do you mind a few more
questions?

* Where did you purchase Eagle Sonic? * What is involved in installing it? *
Do you do graphics/rendering and if so, does Eagle Sonic make a
  significant difference? * Does increased memory help? * How much did it
cost? * Was the increase in speed worth your money, in your opinion? * Would
you recommend it?

Thanks, Th' Perfesser
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 11        Thu Apr 07, 1994
S.SANDERS2 [Scott @ SDS]     at 02:23 EDT

I'm using an Eagle Sonic daily now with absolutely no problems. I was a little
disappointed that system speed-up is very subtle. In benchmarks I've tried,
only Integer Math seems to take a strong jump ahead.

-Scott @ SDS

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 12        Sat Apr 09, 1994
V.VALENTI                    at 02:42 EDT

Scott,

Atari did do a good job of making sure that the system ran as fast as it could
using 16mhz.  However, have you tried True Color.  Since it does not use the
Blitter, does it speed up?

VInce
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 13        Sat Apr 09, 1994
R.BEATTY3 [Buffalo Bob]      at 07:17 EDT

Perfesser,

I purchased Eagle Sonic at Neutronics, of course! (it's in my store demo)

Installing it requires some pretty fine-art soldering.  A total of about 10
wires, but you must also lift a couple of pins on a surface mount chip.
Experience recommended...

Most applications execute noticably fast.  Everything is much more "snappy".
I recently used it without the 32mhz driver and _really_ noticed a slow-down.
A significant difference?  Depends on how much you value your speed.

Increased memory (ala Mighty Sonic) will improve speed due to its TT RAM
configuration.  Rumored to be less compatible...

Eagle Sonic retails for $495.

I use a TT at home.  Eagle Sonic has improved the Falcon's 256 color
performance to a level much closer to that of the TT (usually running on the
19" monitor).

Of course, I would _like_ to see more speed from the Eagle Sonic, you know,
like 60Mhz 040 performance.  It is a worthwhile upgrade, but should be
weighted against other upgrades in the same price range.  I would consider a
large hard drive to have a greater impact, but then again, when speed is
important...

Scott, What sort of benchmarks did you use?  Quick Index shows a respectable
improvement in CPU performance, yet little in the graphics department.  Still,
I would consider the speed difference to be as important as that obtained from
software acceleration.

Buffalo Bob


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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 14        Sun Apr 10, 1994
S.SANDERS2 [Scott @ SDS]     at 20:33 EDT

I used Quick Index... I just wasn't as impressed as I thought I might be... oh
well. I will wait for an 040 board or a Medusa perhaps? :)

-Scott @ SDS

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 15        Sat Apr 16, 1994
B.DEWITT [Perfesser]         at 15:50 EDT

Buffalo Bob;

Thanks for the info. I would dearly love to crank up the speed on my Falcon.
I'll keep my eye on developments in addition to the "Sonics" for a while.  I
will want the most bang for the buck, naturally.

Th' Perfesser
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 16        Sun Apr 17, 1994
V.VALENTI                    at 01:33 EDT

I have a question.  What about FPU chips.  I just got one in my Falcon. If I
got an accelerator, could that cause a problem, and or would it sspeed up the
FPU too?

Vince
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 17        Sun Apr 17, 1994
REALM [Joey]                 at 02:35 EDT

   The FPU runs at the speed of a crystal, 16Mhz.  I think you can change the
crystal and cut couple traces to make it run faster.  An accelerator shouldn't
have any effect on it.  BTW, the FPU won't do anything until you use a program
designed for it.  DynaCADD and Phoenix both use it.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 18        Fri May 20, 1994
S.MCGEE2 [Sam]               at 18:51 PDT

  I just picked up some info from the May issue of Computer Currents
 which outlined Motorola's 68060. It states that the processor is 040
 compatible (pin compatible or just software compatible?) and should be
 available by the third quarter of this year. The prices in quantities of
 10,000 are reasonably set at $263, $169, and $150 for the 68060, the LC
 version, and the EC version respectively.
  If we could drop one of these bad boys into the new 040
 accelerators, we may just have a 100 MIPS Falcon before '95!
 Anyone have more info? (Compo?)
 Sam
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 19        Thu May 26, 1994
TETOLMAN                     at 19:48 EDT

 dDoes the accelerator that fits in the Falcon case fit with RAM Gizmo and, if
so, is it compatible?  What about the  COMPO 286 board?  Is it compatible with
ScreenBlaster? I'm willing to pay the price for more speed if it works wiwith
my RAM board and Screen Blaster.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 20        Fri May 27, 1994
COMPO                        at 03:55 EDT

TETOLMAN -

The accelerators from GE-Soft do not work with any other expansion board that
use the processor-direct slot, to my knowledge. This includes Falcon Speed,
but I believe they do work with Screenblaster (Screenblaster being an external
device).

We're developing a Falcon accelerator called Afterburner. It has a 64 MHz
68040, accepts up to 64 MB of FastRAM, and DOES work with other processor-
direct expansion boards. It is scheduled for release this summer.

Robert
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 21        Fri May 27, 1994
C.OINES1 [Chazz]             at 20:39 CDT

Do you have an approximate price on that Afterburner? I'd like to know how
hard to starve myself to get it. ;)

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 22        Fri May 27, 1994
P.BITHELL [PFLIP]            at 22:45 EDT

Robert, Is the Afterburner 040 clocked at 32mhz (internally doubled to 64) or
clocked at true 64mhz ? What 040 chip, with FPU or without ? I am very
interested in an accelerator for my falcon (especially now that Logic 2.0 will
support color). Which leads me to my next question... will the Afterburner be
compatible with MIDI software (namely Logic or Logic Audio Falcon) ? Will it
fit in the stock case or will it need a tower ?

As you can tell I'm not terribly interested (have you seen Logic at
1024x968x16 update the screen ... dum-de-dum-dum...) Any information you could
supply (like prices !) and spec's or benchmarks would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, I LOVE ScreenBlaster and patiently await SBII.

Thanks in advance. PFLIP

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 23        Sat May 28, 1994
COMPO                        at 05:24 EDT

Chazz -

No firm pricing yet. Sorry (we just don't know until we go to manufacturing).


PFLIP -

Afterburner uses a 68040 clock doubled to 64 MHz. As for the FPU, it's
optional; we'll have different versions of the chip. I don't know if it'll
work with Logic; haven't tested it. We are going to great lengths to maintain
compatibility, and it looks like compatibility won't be much of an issue (it
is looking very good).

I'll have pricing, specs, benchmarks, and all that good stuff shortly.
Afterburner is nearly complete.


Thanks,

Robert
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 24        Sat May 28, 1994
D.ALFONSO1 [D.ALFONSO]       at 15:24 EDT

Robert,

I'd like to echo all of PFLIP's questions regarding Afterburner. AND reinforce
the need for this to be compatible with Logic and Cubase. After all ... who
else besides MIDIites would even OWN a Falcon? <g>

David


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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 25        Sat May 28, 1994
P.BITHELL [PFLIP]            at 19:52 EDT

Thanks Robert, I'm waiting impatiently... PFLIP

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Message 26        Sun May 29, 1994
D.HAEFNER [Dave]             at 00:47 MDT

David,

        I would own a Falcon for animation. I am actually considering using
just an ST for sequencing and scoring, to free up the Falcon for other chores.

COMPO,

        Will the new Afterburner be compatible with your other hardware,
specifically ScreenBlaster and FalconSpeed?

Dave @ Damage Control

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 27        Tue May 31, 1994
COMPO                        at 21:34 EDT

Dave -

Afterburner is compatible with Screenblaster and Falcon Speed, and, I believe,
every other hardware expansion.

Robert
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 28        Sun Jun 05, 1994
E.CRISTOFICH                 at 23:36 EDT

Dave at COMPO                                                      Count me in
for the Afterburner accelerator.. I need the speed...
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 29        Thu Jun 16, 1994
DOLPHIN [Finnegas Z.]        at 06:21 PDT

So, what is the latest on Wizztronics 040? Did Atari ever grant the TOS
licensing or whatever it was Wizz needed?

      ^
     / \
 ~~~/FIN\~~~

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 30        Sat Jun 18, 1994
S.LYSTER [Stu Lyster]        at 16:48 PDT

I just got a copy of June 1994's ST USER from England, and they have some
hardware accelerator products reviewed/listed.  One is the T28, which bumps an
8 MHz ST up to 28 MHz.  They say that they are developing a T28 for an STe,
with no mention as to one for s Falcon.

System Solutions in Windsor, is advertising a "Falcon030 Systems - 32 MHz"
accelerqator called "PowerUp2, "a brand new 32 MHz accelerator for the
Falcon."  It is supposed to double the CPU clock speed, while not taking up an
expansion slot, and sells for 59.95 pounds unfitted.

Does anyone know anything about these products, and how to get them in Canada
or in the US?

Stuart Lyster

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 31        Mon Jun 20, 1994
F.JANSEN1 [CYGNUS]           at 19:48 CDT

I'd like to know about the Falcon accelerators too.

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 32        Thu Jun 23, 1994
S.AGARWAL [SANJAY]           at 18:52 EDT

Is the '040 falcon board available yet?  If so, how much?

Sanjay.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 33        Thu Jun 23, 1994
COMPO                        at 20:18 EDT

Sanjay -

Afterburner 040 will be available in July, perhaps early August.

Robert
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 34        Fri Jun 24, 1994
D.COOKE [Rob]                at 00:05 CDT

 Anybody have any specs on the Powerup2 kit for the Falcon030 like speed
performance and price?  How easy is it to install?  Thanks for any info!

 Rob
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 35        Fri Jun 24, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 23:32 EDT

Power Up was reviewed in a recent ST Review article.  As far as I remember,
the speed increase was about 14%, enough to notice.  The slow RAM access of
the Falcon prevented a bigger increase.  The article showed pictures on how to
install it. Soldering is necessary and the documentation is lacking. Price is
low, around $100 I believe.


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 36        Sat Jun 25, 1994
D.COOKE [Rob]                at 00:44 CDT

 Hmm,thanks for the info Tintin!  Do you remember which ST review it was?
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 37        Sun Jun 26, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 10:30 EDT

Rob,

It must be either the May or June issue.  I browsed it in a magazine shop.  I
was excited about Power Up until I saw the GEMBench figures...


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 38        Mon Jun 27, 1994
D.COOKE [Rob]                at 00:46 CDT

  Okay,thanks for the info Tintin.  I'll have to see if I can find the
issue....


Rob
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 39        Fri Jul 15, 1994
S.COHEN27                    at 05:05 EDT

The barracuda will be shown at the con Atari fest August 27 & 28 Atari finally
came through with TOS 4.04 lic, but were writting our own OS patch, Bench
Marks now on the 68040-33MHz have been quite impressive From 350% to 800% with
fast ram running, over 1000% see it at conneticut The Wizz guys are sorry for
the huge delay but good things come to those who wait....soon.........
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 40        Fri Jul 15, 1994
S.DEITZ [Steve]              at 18:30 EDT

Steve,

Sounds awesome! See you at the Fest :-)

                      ----STEVE----

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 41        Mon Jul 18, 1994
P.BENSON6 [PKBX]             at 00:28 EDT

Hey Robert @ COMPO: I see this Barracuda spec. stuff here. How does
Afterburner stack up to it? Any chance of seeing Compo at the Conn Atari Fest?
I'm interested in a little comparitive shopping!
                            thanks,
                                        pkbx
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 42        Mon Jul 18, 1994
COMPO                        at 23:56 EDT

pkbx -

Well, Afterburner isn't ready yet, so I'd rather not go into specifications
(except for saying that it has a clock doubled 64 MHz 68040 processor, with
the capacity for 64 MB of FastRAM). Some folks like to talk up things still in
development, I don't. As for Barracuda, all I know is that it uses the same
processor as Afterburner, and can accept FastRAM. I understand it's still in
development, too.

Sorry, but I don't think we'll be making it to the CN Fest.

Robert
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 43        Fri Jul 29, 1994
M.DEJONGE [Matt]             at 01:01 EDT

  Hello fellow Atarians!  I have a friend who owns a Falcon (and I sit in his
dust with my lowly 1040STf and my TT030 <G>) and he would like to purchase the
Wizztronic's Barracuda when it is available.  The only problem is that he
doesn't have a phone number or address to reach them at.  Can anyone help?

-=> Keep on TOSsin' that GEM! <=-
                                              Matt
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 44        Fri Jul 29, 1994
S.BUSHMAN3                   at 03:57 EDT

Can anyone offer me any information on the PowerUp2 for the Falcon. Sounds
like a 75 dollar clock doubler to make the Falcon run at 32mhz! Where can I
get one, can I install it myself, and how much is it exactly?

                                  Shane Bushman
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 45        Fri Jul 29, 1994
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 19:31 PDT

Matt

 Wizztronics
 P.O. Box 122
 Port Jefferson, NY   11776

 (516) 473-2507

Ken S.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 46        Sat Jul 30, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 00:40 EDT

Shane,

There was a review of PowerUP in a recent ST Review (forgot which month).  It
doubles the clock speed, but overall performance is just slightly improved due
to the Falcon slow RAM access.  Soldering is required for installation.

I will pass on it and wait for the soon-to-be-released Speed Resolution Card
(see the latest AEO for details, or see cat 30 topic 8 message 171).  This one
goes to 40Mhz but most importantly increase the bus speed.  The benchmarks
look impressive.  The best thing is it's not expensive.  The extra is that it
also expand your video resolutions.

I am not ruling out a 040 accelerator yet.  It will depend on the
price/performance ratio.  It looks like that in a couple of months we will
have a good selection of accelerators to choose from, and I don't complain
<grin>.


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 47        Mon Aug 01, 1994
R.BEATTY3 [Buffalo Bob]      at 00:04 PDT

Tintin,

Do you know if anyone has actually compared the PowerUP to the Eagle Sonic?  I
just sold our demo Falcon w/ Eagle Sonic installed, and the performance was
quite good.  Going from my TT (at home) to the Eagle Sonic Falcon was not too
painful - until I switched off Eagle Sonic. If PowerUP is as good as ES then
I'm impressed...

 Buffalo Bob
 Neutronics
 Nonolulu, HI
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 48        Mon Aug 01, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 20:31 EDT

Buffalo Bob,

I don't know.  Can you give details on ES, and benchmarks figures?


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 49        Thu Aug 04, 1994
R.BEATTY3 [Buffalo Bob]      at 01:36 PDT

Tintin,

I can't give you benchmarks right now; I just recently sold the Eagle-Sonic'ed
Falcon.  I'll talk to the owner and see what we can get.

Buffalo Bob

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 50        Sat Aug 06, 1994
S.COHEN27                    at 03:27 EDT

Straight from the developer's mouth -  Wizztronic's  BARRACUDA 040 **will !**
be at the '94 Conneticutt Atari Fest, along with the DEKA II and The Falcon
Rack Case. Right now we're working out the final details. We will be taking
advanced orders for delivery in September of '94. See you all there!
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 51        Sun Sep 18, 1994
T.HEBEL [Spud Boy]           at 15:19 CDT

 >Atari-ST RoundTable
 >Category 30,  Topic 12
 >Message 50        Sat Aug 06, 1994
 >S.COHEN27                    at 03:27 EDT
 >
 >Straight from the developer's mouth -  Wizztronic's  BARRACUDA 040 **will
!**
 >be at the '94 Conneticutt Atari Fest, along with the DEKA II and The Falcon
 >Rack Case. Right now we're working out the final details. We will be taking
 >advanced orders for delivery in September of '94. See you all there!
 >----------
 >

So how did the Barracuda look?
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 52        Sun Sep 18, 1994
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 19:03 EDT

Spud Boy,
          the Baracuda was not available after all at CAF 94.
 I asked but never found out what happened. TOS license maybe?

 John B.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 53        Tue Sep 20, 1994
S.COHEN27                    at 00:31 EDT

The Barracuda has undergone a third revision and we believe a final, It is
scheduled to be in Beta test September 25,26th. At that time providing all
bugs have been worked out, it will go into production for release. We have not
gotton the TOS lic from ATARI Corp. there are several reasons for this,
however we will not go into detail. We will keep everyone posted on the
release dates and final Benchmarks.
 the Wizzard
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 54        Tue Sep 20, 1994
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 03:31 EDT

Steve,
      thanks for the info on the Barracuda's situation. Nice to hear
 it from someone who really knows instead of third and fourth hand
 reports.

 TOS,
     wihtout going into details. What does not having the license
 imply? Bying the TOS from Atari? Moreso, it has been mentioned
 a few times that TOS must be modified to run on a 68040. Will you
 be doing this with software running on top of TOS?


 John B.


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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 55        Tue Sep 20, 1994
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 18:27 EDT

Steve,

Not *yet* gotten the TOS license from Atari, right? Or is Atari going to
refuse a TOS license to you?

Al
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 56        Tue Sep 20, 1994
BBRADLEY [HOT DOG]           at 22:06 MDT

It is time to dump TOS... dump Atari... and come up with a GUI equivilant that
will run the software libraries already available and give developers some
support and something to develope for instead of depending on the computer
killing non-support of Atari.

Hot Dog
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 57        Sat Sep 24, 1994
S.COHEN27                    at 01:29 EDT

We have already modified the existing TOS (Patch Disk) The Barracuda going
into BETA B this Comming week has a Flash Rom onboard, it DL's your OS and we
patch the rest, Alas a fully functional and 100% 68040 compatable TOS.

 Atari has made us an offer to Lic. TOS however I don't feel it was in our
best interests to sign the proposed contract for several (Important Reasons)

 The Wizz
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 58        Sat Sep 24, 1994
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 03:23 EDT

Steve,
      thanks for the reply. Sounds like a great product. I'd
 love to see a Falcon running with a Barracuda. Sounds like
 you are turning it into a machine of the 90's ;-)

 John B.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 59        Sun Sep 25, 1994
T.HEBEL [Spud Boy]           at 16:29 CDT

S.COHEN27
  Has anyone considered using Geneva and NeoDesk as the basis instead of TOS?
Maybe this is not feasable, but I think it would be neat to have something as
powerful as that 'built in'.

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 60        Fri Oct 07, 1994
D.COOKE [Rob]                at 21:18 CDT

  Hello all.  I have a few questions to ask concerning some Falcon speed
enhancements I read awhile back in an old issue of AEO.  One is called the
Speed Resolution Card from Hard & Soft in Germany, does anyone actually hae
this card and/or does anyone have the number to Hard & Soft?  The other speed
enhancement is called Highspeed 40 MHZ from Digital Data Deicke but  ACN is
selling it, anyone know anything more about it and/or the number to ACN?
Thanks for any info anybody may be able to provide!

                                   Sincerely,
                                   Robby Cooke
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 61        Sun Oct 09, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 23:57 EDT

Rob,

I too am interested in the Speed Resolution Card. My local dealer can order it
from Germany for about $400 cdn. I can give you his co-ordinates if you wish.
It sounds a bit pricey so I have asked for more information, specs, etc.

Maybe Lexicor carries it? I'll check it out.


Tintin

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 62        Mon Oct 10, 1994
AEO.7                        at 19:24 EDT

Speed Resolution Card?????  care to part with some specifics for the great
unwashed out there (like me)?

Gregg
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 63        Tue Oct 11, 1994
R.BEATTY3 [Buffalo Bob]      at 01:41 PDT

Gregg,

Check out the latest Euo-mags.  The Speed Resolution card speeds up the
Falcon's 68030 _and_ the bus, and enhances the resolutions available.  For
~$400 it sounds like a great deal.

Buffalo Bob

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 64        Wed Oct 12, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 22:44 EDT

Maybe the Barracuda will have a better price/performance ratio. And the
possibility to upgrade the RAM? Will it be possible to keep my 4MB ST-RAM and
add, say another 4MB Fast RAM on a Barracuda?

At the low-end there is also PowerUp.


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 65        Fri Oct 14, 1994
D.COOKE [Rob]                at 00:22 CDT

  Hi Tintin, thanks for replying.  Let me know what you find out!
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 66        Tue Oct 18, 1994
J.BATES15 [JAB]              at 19:49 EDT

Hi All,

Any word on the Barracuda?  Is it still in beta testing?  Does it allow for TT
Ram in the Falcon?  If so, do I have to put the Falcon in a different case?

Are there any other accellerator cards (boost clock speed) for the Falcon?

Later,

JAB
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 67        Tue Oct 18, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 22:11 EDT

I still have research to do.

So far we (will) have:

  PowerUP
  Speed Resolution Card
  Barracuda
  Afterburner

Compo, any word on the Afterburner?


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 68        Fri Oct 21, 1994
COMPO                        at 23:47 EDT

Tintin -

Still working on Afterburner. No release date yet.

Robert
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 69        Wed Nov 16, 1994
PG.MUSIC [PG-Kevin!]         at 16:11 EST

Does anyone know of a Falcon accelerator that I could buy "today" that also
works with digital audio  recorders such as Cubase Audio Falcon?

Any more word on the Barracuda?

--Kevin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 70        Thu Nov 17, 1994
D.ATKINSON3 [Damon]          at 01:30 CST

Kevin,

  You might try calling Toad Computers.  They mentioned to me on the phone
about 3 weeks ago that they were getting an accelerator from England in a week
or so.  I think it ran at 32mhz.

 Damon


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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 71        Thu Nov 17, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 21:31 EST

Kevin,

TOAD advertises the Barracuda:

 040/20         $599
 33 Mhz 040     $179
 128MB Card(0K) $299
 Rack case      $259

Basically, you can have a 20 or 33 mhz 040. And you can add fast RAM. Requires
placing the Falcon in the rack case.


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 72        Fri Nov 18, 1994
PG.MUSIC [PG-Kevin!]         at 09:41 EST

Tintin,
 Interesting. Does the 040/20 come with the '040 chip, or is there a version
of the Barracuda I can get  outright with the 33MHz '040.

Time to call Toad and see...

--Kevin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 73        Fri Nov 18, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 19:38 EST

Kevin,

The only other information I have is; "Call for more information" :-)


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 74        Fri Nov 18, 1994
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 21:10 EST

Barracuda? it doesn't exist yet.

John B.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 75        Fri Nov 18, 1994
S.AGARWAL [SANJAY]           at 21:42 EST

I have seen a conversion for the Falcon that provides a new case with
detachable keyboard advertised in the UK mags called desktopper for about
$160.  Does anyone know if the Barracuda will work with this case?

Sanjay.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 76        Sun Nov 20, 1994
T.HEBEL [Spud Boy]           at 18:30 CST

TinTin,

How is compatablility of the Barracuda?
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 77        Mon Nov 21, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 23:13 EST

Spud Boy,

I do not have any more info.  Maybe the Wizz do? ;-)


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 78        Fri Nov 25, 1994
N.FRAGA [RECOIL]             at 17:50 CST

What accelerators are *currently* available for the Falcon030? Are any
compatible with all of Lexicor/DA software? Is the price right?  Any
modifications that have to be done by a professional? Are the current
accelerators worth it?

I really feel my F030 (even with a 68030) is too slow, I knew I should have
went with a TT030!!!

Norm.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 79        Mon Nov 28, 1994
R.IRBY3 [Roy]                at 21:01 EST

Has anyone here tried the 'Speed Resolution Card' accelerator for the Falcon.
I haven't seen much talk about it here.  I recently read some posts on the net
that it was pretty solid and dependable and benchmarks put it at 105% TT
speed.  Hmm.  This accelerator is supposed to increase the Falcon to 20 Mhz
(clock speed, bandwidth?? dunno).  Would that be enough to make it faster than
a TT?  It's supposed to be fairly reasonably priced, too.  Any info?

Roy.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 80        Mon Nov 28, 1994
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 22:44 EST

Roy,

See AEO 310 (electronic magazine available here in the library). It has a
review of the Speed Resolution Card.

Clock speed is configurable at up to 40MHz and the bus at 20MHz. In addition
to increased speed, the increase in bandwith allows for greater video
resolutions.


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 81        Mon Jan 02, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 21:00 PST

 Everyone may have already gotten answers to the accelerator availability
questions, here or elsewhere, but it looks like the Skunk 36 from Germany is
the best out. It takes the motherboard to 18 MHz, the CPU to 36 MHz, the FPU
and DSP to 50 MHz. I understand the ability of the Speed Res Card to go to 40
MHz CPU/FPU and 20 MHz motherboard is _very_ marginal, your system has to
happen to be "in spec", which is rare. I have heard that 18/36 is very doable,
though I've had a heck of a time getting my TT at work to do 48 MHz with our
CaTTamaran, and the chips spec the same, basically.

     Dan
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 82        Tue Jan 03, 1995
N.FRAGA [RECOIL]             at 19:54 CST

Does anyone know what the Barracudda (sp?) will cost when it does become
available?  I really need one, and being from Wizztronics, rather than an
overseas hardware modification, I think I would definitely go go with this
one.  Also, will I be able to use my current software?

Norm.

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 83        Wed Jan 04, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 01:45 EST

The Barracuda will be Available at the end of February, Cost when equipped
with the 68040 33MHz with FPU "Floating Point Unit" is MSRP $950.00. It is
being released with 2 VME expansion slots and a 50 Pin Video Port. The Ram
Card MSRP is $300.00 and the 486DX33 PC card will be MSRP $400.00. The
additional cards will be available in March 95 and April 95. We have just went
to Fabrication this week on the Cuda 040, now it's up to the PC house,
Assembly and Parts distrubitors. During current BETA V.5 all software seems to
work Great, No More BUGS...we hope


 Steve Cohen

 Wizztronics
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 84        Wed Jan 04, 1995
R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson]    at 02:23 EST

 Steve,
   Is the Barracuda just an acceleration card or is it a whole new
 computer? Will the 486DX33 work on a standard Falcon?

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 86        Wed Jan 04, 1995
FAIRWEATHER [David]          at 07:04 PST

 I'd consider buying a Barracuda with all the fixin's only if I could be
assured that

 1. CUBASE 3.0x will continue to work (if only in some sort of "native" Falcon
030 mode.)

 2. LOADALADDIN works.

 3. Windows 3.0 will work in 486DX33 mode and Band-In-A-Box 6.0 for Windows
would work.

 That last one is probably the killer.  I'd be amazed if the 486DX33mode had
any support for the Atari's midi ports.

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 87        Wed Jan 04, 1995
P.POTOS [Pete]               at 18:11 CST

 Steve @ Wizztronics
 $950 for the Barracuda (yikes)
 Can both the Barracuda & 486DX33 fit in the Falcon Case/?
 What is the expected $$$ for the complete vidoe package?
 I desperately want one & must start putting aside some cash.

 Thanks in advance - Pete
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 88        Wed Jan 04, 1995
R.WELTER2                    at 20:25 EST

Steve,

Just so I can plan my budget, I take it the price for the Baracuda is in
ADDITION to the Falcon of your choice?  As in, buy a 4meg Falcon with drive
for $1300, and install Baracuda for another $950.  Is this correct? (Sounds
good to me!)

                Rich

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 89        Wed Jan 04, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 23:05 EST

I believe you need to put the Falcon in Wizz's Rack Case. What's new to me is
the 486DX33 PC card. Since it's a DX I guess it will only work with the RAM
card, right? because of the 32-bit bus?

And what about the video port? What will be the max rez and colors?


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 90        Thu Jan 05, 1995
N.FRAGA [RECOIL]             at 00:02 CST

Well Since its going to be two months before we hear from any useres of the
Barraccuda040, my only question now is:

Does this accelerator require us to send in the Falcon to be upgraded? $950,
is alot of money, considering a TT030 is only $300 more (I know, but does it
have a DSP? a 32K color pallete, 16-bit stereo sound,e tc) Anyway if it has
two (2) VME slots plus a video connector, does that price include a new box
too?

Sound kinda confusing, but I'm *VERY* interested in accelerating my F030!  And
I don't think any of the overseas upgrades would really help at all.

Could the "Cuda 040" be clocked to higher speeds, like on the Medusa?

Norm.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 91        Thu Jan 05, 1995
P.FLETCHER4 [Pete]           at 18:24 EST

Just saw an ad for Powerup2 in a toad circular.  Does anybody know if this is
a worth while upgrade?  Would I have to remove my 286 emulator to use it?  Not
that I would mind that because I have received a free used 386 from my
brother.  Also are the 120% increases in speed really all that noticeable.

I guess I shouldnt complain, its only $99.00. :) Pete
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 92        Thu Jan 05, 1995
P.BITHELL [PFLIP]            at 23:04 EST

Steve,

I'm a Falcon owner with the need for speed and am VERY interested about
 the 'Cuda, so I'll jump on the band wagon.

First of all, will it be compatible with midi programs such as Logic ? or will
it effect the timing, also has it been tested with Logic (If not I'll
volunteer to beta test [hint hint])

What are the bench marks? does it still run on the 16mhz buss, also what are
the street prices estimated to be (ballpark)

Those are my questions for now, I would like to say that I think it's very
cool to see someone working on improving a machine that with a little help
could reach it's full potential, and you definatly have a customer here for
the 'Cuda and it's ancillary boards.

Thanks and Happy Trails,
                        PFLIP

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 93        Fri Jan 06, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 20:46 PST

Poor Steve,

 Guess you can tell there's demand, hope you make a bundle! Now, on to the
questions:

 1. Do the RAM card (FastRAM, I assume) and the PC card require the
  Barracuda? i.e. VME bus? And if not, how do you use it with the
  Barracuda? Also, can/will the PC card go to DX2/66? DX2/80?

 2. Will either the RAM card and/or PC card run with PowerUp or other
  Falcon accelerators if they use the FalconBus? (I don't know
  that PowerUp uses the FalconBUS, BTW.
 3. How much FastRAM are you limited to? And does the card come with any
  RAM? After all, the Skunk 36 runs $250-$300 with a slot for
  FastRAM.

Arggh, you guys need an RTC, and _soon_!

     Thanks,
      Dan\
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 94        Tue Jan 10, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 22:10 EST

The Barracuda is a computer inside a computer, the 486DX will require the
Barracuda as well as the memory expansion card. The 486 uses 32 Bit local ram
for it's operation. Hope that answers your question.

 The Barracuda Works with Cubase in accelerated mode, on the PC side Windows
for workgroups runs fine, however so far no midi support.

 All you need is your basic Falcon, the Barracuda040 and a place such as the
Falcon Rack to place it all in. The stock Atari case/power supply just don't
cut it.
 Steve

 Wizztronics

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 95        Tue Jan 10, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 22:27 EST

Although the CUDA is somwhat expensive compared to some other accelerators, it
is much more. We have extended the Video on the Falcon to 1280 by 1024 2
color. We speed up the DMA access, added 2 VME 96 pin slots for Expansion, as
well as a EXTERNAL video expansion port for (the Video Funnel, and the VES
2000 3000 and 5000 ) Video editing systems, expected to be released by June
95. So far the most recient delays have been caused by software bug that we
have been fixing, I believe we have them all corrected now, Release time
should be February 28, 1995. We are attending NAMM January 20 through 23 and
hope to be ready to show it there. By the way the machines timming is better
now than ever before, because we now control most of it. Almost any ATARI
(HACKER) user can install the CUDA themselves with little Tecnical knowledge,
most of it os plug and play. oh yea and pulling out 5 PALS (that are socketed)
2 wires to solder, 5 if you take advantage of the video enhancement.

 Steve Cohen

 Wizztronics

 An RTC is in order SOON I HOPE
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 96        Tue Jan 10, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 20:37 PST

Dang, I was hoping I could get a '486 in my machine (for my wife, no, really!)
$950 + $300 + $400 = '486DX266 clone. Sorry guys, it's really cool, but I
think your market is too limited (and that's from a power freak!). Can't wait
to see it, though! NAMM. The winter one is in L.A., right?

      Dan
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 97        Wed Jan 11, 1995
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 00:00 EST

Steve,
      will you be at the ACE 95 Atari Show in Toronto?
 I'd like to see all this stuff. :-)

 John B.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 98        Wed Jan 11, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 00:55 EST

The Toronto show is a very good possiblity. We let ya know.

 Steve Cohen

 Wizztronics
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 99        Wed Jan 11, 1995
R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson]    at 03:50 EST

   Yep, I can build a 486DX machine for $500. Would be nice to have
 both in one but...

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 100       Wed Jan 11, 1995
P.BITHELL [PFLIP]            at 20:23 EST

Steve,

I was hoping that you would have information on whether the CUDA worked with
Logic, I would assume that it would, but I HATE to make $950.00
assumptions....

Still want it !!

                        PFLIP
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 101       Wed Jan 11, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 21:56 EST

Thanks Steve,

I too plan to go to the Atari Toronto show.

The price on the PC board makes it an attractive option for a Barracuda owner.

Have you done GEMbench ratings with/without the Fast RAM?


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 106       Sat Jan 14, 1995
S.LYSTER [Stu Lyster]        at 21:28 PST

I'm wondering what anyone can tell me about a math-co-processor for the
Falcon, and what itdoes on overall performance?

Stuart

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 107       Sun Jan 15, 1995
S.WINICK                     at 06:20 EST

 Stuart,

     >> I'm wondering what anyone can tell me about a
     >> math-co-processor for the Falcon, and what itdoes on
     >> overall performance?

 If you're using software applications that are designed to take
 advantage of an FPU (such as DynaCADD, for example), then
 performance will increase dramatically!  On the other hand, if
 your software applications aren't designed to use an FPU, then
 you won't even know there's one installed.

 Sheldon (Computer STudio - Asheville, NC)
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 108       Sun Jan 15, 1995
C.OINES1 [Chazz]             at 08:39 CST

I had one put in because:
        1) It seems a shame to leave any socket unfillled,
        2) I use Phoenix II for rendering, and it'd take forever and a day
without the FPU. With it, it only takes forever ;)

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 109       Sun Jan 15, 1995
S.LYSTER [Stu Lyster]        at 12:41 PST

Sheldon, can you provide a list of software applications which make use of an
FPU, or can anyone suggest the additional code a programmer would include to
accessthe FPU?

Stuart

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 110       Mon Jan 16, 1995
M.POCHE [Mick]               at 00:17 CST

Stu,

Just off the top of my head, programs that make use of a FPU:

DynaCadd, Phoenix, Chronos, InShape,many fractal generators and possibly POV-
Ray.

I'm sure there are others, but that's a start. Generally, if it's (floating
point) math-intensive, it _should_ use the FPU. If not, the programmer was
lazy. ;)

- Mick

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 112       Fri Jan 20, 1995
M.GROVE2                     at 20:33 PST

Help! Has anyone had any luck with the Mighty Sonic 32 board. I don't want  to
sling mud, but would like some real help with any modifications to the
nstallation procedure. When installed, performance of the SCSI port is  poor
(files become overwritten, directorys messed up), True color mode dosent work
and when the DSP is used such as in True Image, the machine locks up. Ive been
told that some Falcons work with this board and some dont. Well, I'll save you
500.00$, wait for something a little more reliable or get a gaurntee from the
retailer that the product performs as advertized Wow, what a messy post. With
practice mabey Ill get better. ( At typing and purchasing).
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 113       Sat Jan 21, 1995
N.FRAGA [RECOIL]             at 14:09 CST

Has anyone heard more information on the Powerup2 the Toad COmputers is
selling, $99 isn't bad, and I wouldn't expect too much performance from this
mod compared the the Barraccuda, but still a little improvement would help,
anyone know of anyone who has had this installed? Any *real* improvements?

Norm.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 114       Thu Jan 26, 1995
F.ZIMMERMAN3 [Frank Z.]      at 18:33 PST

Norm,

  All the magazine reviews I read rated the PowerUp as giving about a 10-20%
increase in performance.  Not a whole lot, but I haven't heard any complaints
about it affecting anything adversely either.

Frank Z.

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 115       Sat Jan 28, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 01:59 EST

So far so good on LOGIC We just got finished with NAMM.. and are still testing
and removing a few minor bugs, (DARN BUGS) we should have a full report by 2nd
week in February. INCLUDING a FULL GEM bench rating.

 We are making arangements to be at the ACE 95 show now, with the Barracuda
040, and we are still boasting >500% performance increase. in most cases >
800%

 Steve Cohen


 Wizztronics
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 116       Sat Jan 28, 1995
P.BITHELL [PFLIP]            at 22:31 EST

Steve @ Wizztronics,

I'm trying to find out about the Deka II interface, I believe you guys make
(or made) it. Can you give me any information about it ? (and now for the
topic) how's the 'Cuda coming along ?

Thanks          PFLIP
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 117       Sun Jan 29, 1995
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 00:52 EST

PFLIP,

The D.E.K.A. II is a small box that has a PC keyboard jack and a jack for a
cable that goes to the ST, TT or Falcon, along with a mouse port and joystick
port. YUou plug a PC keyboard into it, hook the supplied wire to the Atari,
plug in the mouse, and that's it. The keyboard must have an XT compatibility
switch or it will not work properly; these are easy to find from larger
vendors. (I paid $22 for a Mitsumi AT/XT keyboard, and it is superb.)

On the MSTe and TT, the D.E.K.A. II plugs right into the same connector that
the normal keyboard uses. On the other machines, it plugs into an internal
fitting, a five-minute job.

Al
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 118       Mon Jan 30, 1995
P.BITHELL [PFLIP]            at 19:21 EST

AL,

Thanks for the info, now for my next question: where do I get such an animal?
My guy that I get my Atari stuff says his guy can't get one. I really think
this would accelerate my work on my Falcon greatly.

PFLIP
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Message 119       Tue Jan 31, 1995
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 22:17 EST

PF,

Where can you get what? Sorry, I'm half asleep here....

Al
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 120       Wed Feb 01, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 21:17 PST

 Still plugging away at Internet, trying to get a Skunk 36 or Speed Res...

       Dan
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 121       Thu Feb 02, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 02:26 EST

The DEKA 2 is made made by and sold by WIZZTRONICS, it will allow the use of
any XT or AT keyboard with all 16/32 bit ATARI computers. The installation is
simple, all Atari computers with external keyboards EG: Mega, Mega Ste, TT's
are plug and play 520,1040/Ste, Falcons require you to open the computer up
and install a RJ45 connector where the old keyboard was connected.
 Availablity from any Atari dealer, Mail order Best Electronics, 408 243-6950,
Toad computers 800 448-TOAD or WIZZTRONICS 516-473-2507 Major Credit cards
accepted. MSRP $99.00, The Cuda will Start shipping.........February 28
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 122       Thu Feb 02, 1995
P.BITHELL [PFLIP]            at 23:13 EST

Al,

I was referring to the D.E.K.A. II adapter for my Falcon. (which would greatly
accelerate my work)

Thanks,
                PFLIP
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Message 123       Fri Feb 03, 1995
P.BITHELL [PFLIP]            at 00:01 EST

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You ...
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Message 124       Fri Feb 03, 1995
F.ZIMMERMAN3 [Frank Z.]      at 05:18 PST

PFLIP,

  I'm a little off-topic here, but it seems like the best place to get a hold
of you!  I just got the Logic Audio Falcon disk and it doesn't want to run
(gives me a TOS error 35, then 'out-of-memory' message, then locks up).  I
just wondered if this might be because I don't have a SCSI drive hooked up
yet.  Does it require this to work? (I have a drive already, just have to hook
up the power supply, etc.).

Frank Z.

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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 125       Fri Feb 03, 1995
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 08:28 EST

PF,

Yep the D.E.K.A. II is invaluable here.

Make surer you get a keyborad that has an AT/XT switch on the bottom. XT mode
is the only one that works with ALL the keys. :-)

Al
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Message 126       Fri Feb 03, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 18:57 EST

Dan,

Thanks for trying to get more info.


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 127       Sun Feb 05, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 01:23 EST

Any AT/XT keyboard will work with the DEKA 2, Yes XT is prefered but not
essential. The latest KB we tried war the new Microsoft Keyboad. If you want a
detachable keyboard then the DEKA 2 is for you.

 Steve Cohen

 Wizztronics
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Message 128       Sun Feb 05, 1995
P.BITHELL [PFLIP]            at 01:44 EST

Hey Frank,

LAF doesn't get along with auto prgs or acc's well, the only thing I run with
it is silkmouse. About the SCSI thing, LAF will run with the internal IDE
drive fine (with very little track time). I have found sometimes that if I get
a new version of Logic *and* get a TOS 35 error, that I have to change the
file extension to .LZH and then un-LZH it and it works fine (I had to do that
to Logic 2.01).

BTW, Logic and Logic Audio Falcon have *greatly accelerated* my work on the
Falcon ;)

Next time try the MIDI RT, I'm there also...

Al,

Thanks.

PFLIP


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Message 129       Sun Feb 05, 1995
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 09:11 PST

Steve at Wizztronics,

Please check your email, I have some questions that don't really apply to
accelerators.

Thanks,

Ken S.
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Message 130       Sun Feb 12, 1995
T.HEBEL [Spud Boy]           at 18:47 CST


 >S.COHEN27                    at 02:26 EST
 >
 >accepted. MSRP $99.00, The Cuda will Start shipping.........February 28
 >----------
 >

Does the Barracuda work with Cubase Audio?  (please say yes!)
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Message 131       Sun Feb 12, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 21:15 EST

YES

 Steve C.

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Message 132       Sun Feb 12, 1995
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 19:09 PST

Steve C.

A week or so ago I email you a bunch of questions about your products,
including the Barracuda.  Did you receive it, as I have had no answer.

Unfortunately, I will be out of town for the next 8 days at least, so will not
see any reply to this post immediately.

Ken S.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 133       Sun Feb 19, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 23:37 PST

 Okay, here's the dope on German-based F030 accelerators. Currently available
are:

PowerUp 2 (32 MHz)    DM78 Speed Resolution Card (40 Mhz, 6 stages)   DM398
32 Mhz accelerator (name unknown)  DM99 Skunk 32     DM128 Skunk 36 (Yea!)
DM498 Eagle Sonic (32 MHz)    DM298 Screenblaster III/inside + PowerUp 2
DM155

The These prices come from the German ST mag (I now have a contact!).

 PowerUp 2, the 32 MHz accelerator and the Skunk 32 seem to be simply clock
accelerators like the CaTTamaran, hence their low prices. The Speed Res card
is the one I mentioned that was 16/18/20 MHz motherboard, 16/18/20/ 32/36/40
MHz CPU/FPU (40MHz is not always possible, depends on your F030). The Eagle
Sonic everyone is pretty familiar with. The Skunk 36 is my choice, the price
does seem to support the theory of it having a FastRAM SIMM slot.

 I will be contacting the makers of the Skunk and getting details which I will
post as soon as I get them. I may try to import them if there is  demand, and
it's not a huge hassle (and if no one beats me to the punch). GE-mail me if
you are interested and have cash, I can't handle credit cards. BTW, the
Deutschemark <sp?> is running about 62 cents.

     Here's to speed!
      Dan
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Message 134       Wed Feb 22, 1995
B.SUSLOVIC [Brad]            at 23:58 EST

Dan

       I'm VERY curious to hear about the Skunk 36, being available. Can you
find out which of those options jive with Cubase Audio?



brad s
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Message 135       Tue Feb 28, 1995
J.WHETSTONE [Hamlet]         at 00:25 EST

Hi.  Anyone have a PowerUp thing in the Falc?  I'm really interested in
getting one.  I want to be able to operate Geneva faster and be able to render
POV pictures faster.  Will the PowerUp help much?  I also heard a Motorolla
16882 - 32 MHz would help drastically.  Do I have to have a 32 MHz computer to
use this FPU? or will it work without 32? WHERE CAN I GET ONE?  I was also
told that I can pick one up for about 25 bucks.  Helluva Price.  WHERE THOUGH?
Thanx everyone,

The Rogue and Peasant Slave
   Hamlet
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Message 136       Tue Feb 28, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 19:47 PST

Hamlet,

 It's a 68882-33 MHz FPU and you can call Chip Merchant in San Diego for latest
pricing. And yes, you can run a faster chip slower (and sometimes a slower
chip faster!). (619)268-4774 for Chip Merchant.

     Dan
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Message 137       Thu Mar 02, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 23:31 EST

Beware of the BARRACUDA 040, comming to a Dealer near you real soon. >500%
speed increase, Flash OS 2 VME busses, More.
 Come and listen to the Wizztronics RTC Wed. March 8th 10:pm EST
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Message 138       Fri Mar 03, 1995
ST.WALLY [Wally]             at 01:43 EST

Rar!     :-)


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Message 139       Wed Mar 08, 1995
B.DEWITT [Perfesser]         at 18:59 MST

Steve;

When might "real soon" be? Also, here in Utah, I don't have a dealer near me
(unless one considers 300 miles one way to be "near").

Also, how about some "real world" numbers to entice us relative to the 500%
speed increase?

Thanks, Th'Perfesser
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Message 140       Thu Mar 09, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 00:41 EST

Real Numbers 500%
 Available by April

 Wizztronics
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Message 141       Wed Mar 15, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 21:48 PST

Okay, here's the poop...

 Got with COMTEX, makers of the Skunk 32 and Skunk 36, DM128 and DM498,
respectively. They prefer to install the 36 in their shop in Germany. Sounds
ugly. The Skunk 32 is essentially a PowerUp, providing a 32 MHz clock to the
CPU and FPU. The DSP stays at 32 MHz. The RAM-bus (I assume equivalent to
motherboard) runs at the standard 16 MHz, and the Blitter stays switchable
between 8 and 16 MHz. Doesn't seem to do a whole lot, though COMTEX claim
GEMBench 3.10 values vs. stock Falcon of 200% CPU Integer, 145% Float FPU,
129% RAM access, and 152% ROM access. Versus a TT with only ST-RAM, it gets
about 105% average. The Skunk 36 gives CPU speeds of 9/18/36 (why 9 MHz, I
don't know), FPU of 36/50 MHz, DSP of 50 MHz (doesn't seem to be switchable?),
Blitter of 9/18 MHz, RAM Bus of 18 MHz, and IKBD? Speed of 4/4.434 (I have
_no_ idea). Gembench 3.10 vs. standard F030 are 225%, 152% (36 MHz FPU), 172%
(50 MHz FPU), 145% RAM access, 171% ROM access. Comes out about even with  a
TT with Fast RAM, 105% at the most. About 120% average overall vs. TT w/o TT-
RAM.

     Think I'll check the Speed Res Card...
       Dan
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Message 142       Thu Mar 16, 1995
J.WHETSTONE [Hamlet]         at 22:22 EST

I have some questions about those clock speed accelerators...
 First of all, Exactly how do they work, are they easy to install, what exactly
do they accelerate (Did I hear Dan say the CPU and the FPU?)?? What does Power-
Up do, is it worth $100, will it speed it up all that much (for things like
Ray tracing and file compressing)  Will it speed up the graphics that much?
One more thing,  If I get my Falc upgraded to a 040, will having something
like PowerUp matter very much?  Maybe some Whizz at Wizztronics can answer me
that.  Ok I think that's it.  Thanx.

The Rogue and Peasant Slave
   Hamlet
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Message 143       Fri Mar 17, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 19:48 PST

Hamlet,

 Barracuda supercedes the Power Up, rendering it largely useless, though I
imagine Steve can tell us if you can use the Power Up in "native processor"
mode (I assume the 'Cuda lets you switch back to stock F030). The Power Up
definitely will not work in conjunction with the 'Cuda. The Power Up simply
gives your 68030 (and 68882, I believe) a 32 MHz clock, which will, in theory,
make your F030 as fast as a TT (the TT has a 16 MHz bus speed and 32 MHz
CPU/FPU). Don't count on that much speed, though, the two computers are
different. Oh, and by the way, that's as fast as a TT w/o FastRAM. I see Toad
is advertising a 20-50% speed increase. I would say overall boost is more
toward 120%. If _all_ you have is $100 and won't have more money in the not-so-
distant future, go for it. I believe it is fully backward switchable for
compatibility.

Now, on to the Speed Resolution Card! Oooooh! Aaaaah!

 This is my choice for an inexpensive F030 accelerator. It costs about DM400
and goes like hell. It also has video enhancement a la BlowUp and Screen
Blaster, but better, IMHO.

 You get:

 CPU(FPU)/Bus speeds of: 40/20, 36/18, 32/16, 20/20, 18/18, 16/16 MHz

 Video Enhancement of up to at least:

   1024X768X2   62-70 Hz N.I.
   1280X800     >100 Hz Inter.

   1024X768X16  64 Hz N.I.
   800X600X16   >95 N.I.
   1280X800X16  100 Hz Inter.

   800X600X256  70 Hz N.I.
   1008X704X256 100 Hz Inter.

   512X400XTC   68 Hz N.I.
   640X400XTC   62 Hz N.I.
   640X480XTC   68 Hz Inter.

 They guarantee that it will work in all modes up to and including 36/18 in
clock-doubled and 18/18 in standard mode. Some Falcons (with no rhyme or
reason, they are trying to determine if it's the Speed Res or the F030) will
not go to a 20 MHz bus speed, so ya takes your chances. They use GEMTEST for
their comparisons and get the following:

   CPU Measure   40 MHz    36 MHz
   ------------------------------
   CPU Register  +150%     +125%
   CPU Divide    +150%     +150%

   Video Measure 40 MHz    36 MHz
   ---------------------------+}-
   Linien        +53%      +25%
   Textausgabe   +39%      +25%
   AES           +31%      +17%

 Please bear with the German, I don't care to translate incorrectly and get set
on fire. I believe the Linien is Line Scroll and Textausgabe is Text Redraw?
These numbers don't seem too impressive, when I get mine insta installed, I'll
post GemBench numbers. The Card comes with video config software, a la Blow
Up, and it all fits internally (I was told 11 solder points). Sounds like a
monster! If I were to import, I would guess the prices would be around $400
for the Card, $500 with installation and return shipping.

     Dan Phillips
     (619)583-5144
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 144       Sat Mar 18, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 01:45 EST

The Barracuda allows the user to run their Falcon 030 in either 68040 mode or
stock 030 mode with the addition of a switch (hardwired), we installed a two
pin jumper for this. The speed increase with the Cuda installed is min. 300%
for poorly written code      > 500% with good written code, and as high as
1000% if it fits in the cache. All this has been acomplished without the use
of the additional Ram Card option. We speed up the entire computer, first by
replacing most of Atari's plug in Logic (GALS) that is. the computer is now
running under 2 wait states, Rom access is done at 32 Bit VS. 16 Bit, we are
running the OS in Flash Roms now, patched for optium 040 code.  DMA access has
been increased by more than 20% , the additional Ram Option is full 32 Bit
access, operating at 1 Wait State. We have NO DSP problems, The Video support
has been  expanded to 1280 by 1024 2 in color mode. There is more, we will be
showing it off for ACE95 (THE BIG WEEKEND).

 Steve C.

 Wizztronics
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Message 145       Sat Mar 18, 1995
P.FLETCHER4 [STumped]        at 09:38 EST

'Steve, I'm interested in the 'cuda, but have a few questions.  First of all,
will it fit into my existing case or will I have to buy a rack case or a
desktopper?  Secondly, I have a RAMGIZMO board in my Falcon that allows me to
use ordinary Simms.  Will this board conflict with your design?  Finally, what
is the target price for all this power?

Pete
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Message 146       Sat Mar 18, 1995
R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson]    at 13:35 EST

 Steve,
   Any thoughts on using PCMCIA slots?

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Message 147       Sat Mar 18, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 13:36 EST

Dan,

Thanks a lot for the update on the accelerators.


Tintin
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Message 148       Sat Mar 18, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 11:53 PST

 Good luck at the show, Steve. Sounds like the 'Cuda is well worth the money,
for those of us who have it. I hadn't heard about all those major changes to
the Falcon architecture. Are those changes made on the mother- board or is it
all re-routing through the FalconBus to the 'Cuda?

     Dan
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Message 149       Sun Mar 19, 1995
B.WOOD18                     at 10:23 EST

We need more choices..The cuda is way over priced. Seeingthe the 040 chips
dropped way down in price.  Hang in there and wait and I'm sure we will have
some more choices.
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Message 150       Sun Mar 19, 1995
C.OINES1 [Chazz]             at 11:49 CST

Is it? Has the cuda's price been mentioned anywhere?

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Message 151       Mon Mar 20, 1995
B.WOOD18                     at 01:27 EST

$950...

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Message 152       Mon Mar 20, 1995
D.ASHTON1 [Stargazer   ]     at 18:50 EST

  $950..... was a full blown 'Cuda.
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Message 153       Tue Mar 21, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 00:28 EST

The Cuda requires a alternate mounting enclosure , such as the Falcon Rack,
However the ram Gizmo does not fit in the Falcon Rack unless you modify the
power supply cover. The Falcon Rack is $525.00 with Power supply, Deka2 and
internal cable kit, the SCSI kit including Brackets internal cables, LED's and
external cable is $85.00. The Barracuda will set you back $800.00 for the
stock 68LC040 or $950.00 with the 68040 (includes Math Co)

 All changes we have done including the 32 Bit Roms are done on the
Accelerator Card, there are 8 wires to solder on the Falcon, and 1 chip
resistor to remove <only if you want the enhanced Video Modes.

 To: B.WOOD18
 Where have you seen the prices falling on the 040's ? if they are from an
authorized Motorola Dist we will buy them and pass the savings on to
you..<sorry> but we are a Auth Blue Chip Motorola  OEM. They haven't fallen
too far yet.
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Message 154       Mon Mar 20, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 21:57 PST

 _If_ you want the enhanced video, sheesh! Tear that sucker out! Will the 'Cuda
use an installed 68882 if you get the LC?

     Dan
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Message 155       Wed Mar 22, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 03:33 EST

No Dan the Barracuda uses the on board copro only, sorry.
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Message 156       Thu Mar 23, 1995
J.WHETSTONE [Hamlet]         at 02:40 EST

Steve,
 You talked about the compatibility mode where you can switch the 040 back down
to 030.  Does this mean that it's a regular Falcon in 030 mode? So would the
68882 and, say, the PowerUp work in the 030 mode then?

The Rogue and Peasant Slave
   Hamlet
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Message 157       Fri Mar 24, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 01:42 EST

"Steve,  You talked about the compatibility mode where you can switch the 040
back down to 030.  Does this mean that it's a regular Falcon in 030 mode? So
would the 68882 and, say, the PowerUp work in the 030 mode then?"
  The Rogue and Peasant Slave    Hamlet


 Yes it will be like running a stock Falcon 030, the 68882 will be functional.
PowerUp on the other hand will not be available. <sorry>
 We have built the Barracuda to be able to maintain complete compatibility
with all existing SOFTWARE, the only problems that will be found if there are
68030 specific instructions that are Illegal on the 040 or have a different
byte access on the 040, everything else will work. <only faster> and more
effectively.

 Something else were working on now, because of popular demand, is a Video
Card, we expect to have one working by may. Giving the user resolution
enhancement of 1024 by 768 true color, it has 4 meg onbaord memory, all
programs that do not address hardware directly will work fine..Well let ya
know.

 Steve Cohen

 Wizztronics
 See us at ACE95 April 1,2
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Message 158       Sat Mar 25, 1995
J.WHETSTONE [Hamlet]         at 00:59 EST

Steve,

 Thanx zlot for the info.  You let us know when the Video  ccard will be
finished.  It sounds like a KILLER!!  Wow!

The Rogue and Peasant Slave
   Hamlet*s
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Message 159       Sat Mar 25, 1995
D.ASHTON1 [Stargazer   ]     at 11:17 EST

Steve,

Do you know if you be at MIST this year in Indy?
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Message 160       Sat Mar 25, 1995
T.HEBEL [Spud Boy]           at 13:18 CST

Does Cubase Audio work with the Barracuda?  Is the  cuda currentlyy available?
How do I get one?

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Message 161       Sat Mar 25, 1995
GREG                         at 21:22 CST

D.ASHTON1

The MIST Show is on.
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Message 162       Sun Mar 26, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 00:59 EST


 to T. Hebel {Spud Boy}

 "Does Cubase Audio work with the Barracuda?  Is the  cuda currentlyy
available?  How do I get one?"


 Yes the Barracuda is Cubase Compatible, and will be ready for retail sale the
2nd week in MAY. We are starting a production run April 3rd, Six weeks later
we will have stock, the availablity will be on a first come first served
basis, We are producing 2000 units for the first run. You can get a Barracuda
through any local Atari Retailer, or directly through Wizztronics, we will
start taking orders April 10th.. Hope that clears a few things up.

 Watch for the Wizztronics Online Category comming soon, Here on GEnie..

 Steve C.

 Wizztronics
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Message 163       Sun Mar 26, 1995
F.ZIMMERMAN3 [Frank Z.]      at 19:12 PST

Steve C.,

   Regarding the "video card" you mentioned, would this be something for "Cuda-
enhanced" Falcons only, or for run-of-the-mill stock Falcons?  If it would be
for stock Falcons also, will it relieve the processor from the video-slowdown
in higher color modes?

Frank Z.

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Message 164       Sun Mar 26, 1995
B.KOLINS1 [Brian]            at 23:48 EST

Steve,

I seem to recall from the RTC that sound won't be supported with the PC
emulator? That be the case, is there any reason why some of the parallel port
audio add-ons won't work?

Thanks, BK
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Message 165       Mon Mar 27, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 21:16 PST

Brian,

 Yeah, no drivers! The boys at Compo had trouble with the built-in SCSI! Though
Sound Blaster emulation shouldn't be _that_ tough. Shoot, just use the DSP and
_cram_ the sound though, so to speak.

     Dan
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Message 166       Tue Mar 28, 1995
S.COHEN27                    at 02:04 EST


    "Regarding the "video card" you mentioned, would this be something for
"Cuda-enhanced" Falcons only, or for run-of-the-mill stock Falcons?  If it
would be for stock Falcons also, will it relieve the processor from the video-
slowdown in higher color modes?
   Frank Z."

 First of all, You will need a Barracuda to take advantage of ur video card,
We will be accessing it through the 32 Bit Local port, answer to the second
question, it will free up the processor greatly, after all it has 4 meg of its
own ram!

 "Steve,
  I seem to recall from the RTC that sound won't be supported with the PC
emulator? That be the case, is there any reason why some of the parallel port
audio add-ons won't work?
  Thanks, BK "


 Let's take on step at a time, We aren't sure on Sound support yet, Midi will
not be supported through the standard Falcon's Midi ports, that can be handled
through drivers and a parallel port.

 Hope that answers your questions.

 Steve Cohen

 Wizztronics


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Message 167       Sun Apr 09, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 10:42 PDT

Okay!!!

 Looks like I should be ordering the Speed Resolution Card last this week or
early next week. All my stuff (except the RAM Gizmo) has apparently sold. I
"talked" to a guy on the 'net last week and he says he loves the Card, and
that he gets a 250% benchmark over standard F030. There was some rumor of SCSI
incompatibility, I may have to use Hard and Soft's drivers, but the problem
seems more like it's Atari's drivers, so hopefully ICD's will handle it fine.
Tech support is rather shoddy I hear, though. Also, I don't remember the
details, but I believe either clock doubling of the processors or bus
acceleration are verboten with the DSP. I've got a friend with Cubase, so I'll
try to test. I also have numerous little programs which use the DSP that I can
play with.

 Kind of off-topic, but if any TT/F030/really accelerated ST owners need Finite
Element Analysis software, I've found what looks to be an awesome package for
the Atari line, and they seem to be interested in getting a distributor here,
so they will release it in English (if they haven't got it already). Let me
know if you want more info via GEmail.

     Dan
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Message 168       Sun Apr 09, 1995
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 18:25 PDT

Dan,

What does the Finite Element Analysis do?

Ken S.
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Message 169       Sun Apr 09, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 21:25 PDT

Ken,

 Guess you don't need it. :^) It's a method of building a computer  simulation
of an object and applying loads to it, whether they be thermal, mechanical,
electrical, etc, and having the computer calculate the  resulting stresses,
temperature distributions, etc. It helps us engineers figure out if something
will break before we ever build it.

     Dan
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Message 170       Mon Apr 10, 1995
R.RIVES1 [SAX]               at 00:55 EDT

I wonder how long it would take to break down a 40 x 40 matrix. Its been a
long time since I've used any of my schooling, aahh the memories. <g>
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Message 171       Mon Apr 10, 1995
AEO.1 [Albert Dayes]         at 11:01 EDT

Dan,

EL Cal might be something that you could use.

-- Albert @ AEO
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Message 172       Mon Apr 10, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 22:46 EDT

Dan,

Thanks for the report on Speed Resolution Card. Why are you selling your RAM
GIzmo? Because it doesn't work with the Card or is it because the Card comes
with its own RAM board?

BTW the Barracuda was not shown at ACE 95.


Tintin
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Message 173       Mon Apr 10, 1995
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 19:59 PDT

Dan,

 > Guess you don't need it. :^) It's a method of building a computer
simulation
 >of an object and applying loads to it, whether they be thermal, mechanical,
 >electrical, etc, and having the computer calculate the  resulting stresses,
 >temperature distributions, etc. It helps us engineers figure out if
something
 >will break before we ever build it.


Aahhh!  Something to allow you engineer types to design and build to the
minimum, and help prevent "overengineering"!!! ROFL  ::ducking::

Ken S.
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Message 174       Mon Apr 10, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 20:55 PDT

Oops! Steve!!!!!! Anyhow, the answers to why I'm selling the Gizmo are: to get
the cash for the Speed Res, no and no. The Speed Res doesn't use the direct
processor slot, so I'm hoping some ingenious person (probably a German) comes
up with a 32-bit RAM upgrade. I have not heard of any problems with using any
of the F030 RAM upgrades with the Speed Res Card. It seems to be the near-
perfect cost effective acceleration solution for the Falcon. ...unless you
want to go _really_ fast, that is.

     Dan
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Message 175       Tue Apr 11, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 22:49 EDT

Dan,

Very well. What is a good price for the Speed Resolution Card?


Tintin
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Message 176       Wed Apr 12, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 06:28 PDT

Tintin,

 Looks like I should be able to import them for no more than $400.

      Dan
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Message 177       Sat Apr 15, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 01:48 EDT

Thanks Dan. What do you think of this:

In the latest ST-Magazine:

Alligator030 for Falcon: 42Mhz accelerator card. Installation: plugs in the
extension port. Price 1000 - 1500FF ($200-$300).

Alligator040 for TT or Falcon: four times the speed (average). GEM compatible,
Unselectable by desk accessory.

That's all the info I have for now. The vendor is Speedware, in Lyon, France.
There is a phone number, I will try to call them next week.


Tintin
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Message 178       Sat Apr 15, 1995
R.HALL49 [DarkChyld]         at 18:51 EDT

Just out of total curiosity...what ST magazine was that? Thanks! :)


                                               /\
                                           Dark><Chyld
                                               \/
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Message 179       Sun Apr 16, 1995
P.FLETCHER4 [STumped]        at 08:28 EDT

Just out of curiosity...what ST magazines are left?  ST Informer, ST Format,
Current Notes, ST Applications, and.....????

Thanks, Pete
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Message 180       Sun Apr 16, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 10:10 PDT

Tintin,

 Fantastic! ask about DSP, CPU, and FPU clock speeds, availability of FastRAM,
compatibility, and GEMBench specs. You might also find out how difficult the
installation is and whether there is any built-in video support. Oh yeah, and
motherboard/Bus speeds. I'm assuming 21 Mhz is the max bus speed and that
there are various speeds to choose from via software a la Speed Res.

    Looking forward to the details!
      Dan

Boy, talk about the eleventh hour! I was gonna order the Speed Res  this week!
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Message 181       Sun Apr 16, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 17:53 EDT

ST Magazine is the name of the leading French Atari magazine. It is monthly
and comes with a cover disk. It covers all STs, TT, Falcon, Medusa, Eagle and
Jaguar. It is sold in Canada.

It has existed for years. A couple of months ago they tried to start a PC and
Mac column but they quickly changed their mind the month after :)

Dan, I am printing your message so I can refer to it.


Tintin


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Message 182       Mon Apr 17, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 07:19 PDT

 Bet the Atarians ragged all over them for the "alternate platform" columns!
Vive l'Atari! (Sorry, had to fake it, my second language is Spanish!

     Danm Damn. ;^)
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Message 183       Fri Apr 21, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 06:55 EDT

Bad news about the Alligator accelerators on which I posted information
before. I called the company in France; they are not available and the company
doesn't know when they will be.

In a magazine article (not ad), they talk about a new card (nameless) for
Falcon. Release date in two months. Details:

 DSP 50Mhz (compatibility 100%)
 030 40Mhz (ALL Falcons)
 FPU 60Mhz

 Installation: a few wires to solder, one resistance to desolder.
 Price 1900FF, or about 550cnd$.


Tintin

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Message 184       Sat Apr 22, 1995
S.LYSTER [Stu Lyster]        at 07:34 PDT

 TinTin - is that price of $550 Cdn for all three of the DSP(50MHz),
 030(40MHz), and FPU(60MHz), or for each?

 Stuart
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Message 185       Sat Apr 22, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 10:03 PDT

 Vaporware abounds! Think I'll go with the Speed Res, it exists!
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Message 186       Sat Apr 22, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 16:44 EDT

Stuart,

The price of $550 cdn is for an accelerator board that boosts the speed of
your existing DSP, 68030 and FPU to 50, 40 and 60 Mhz respectively.

Dan,

Go for it and tell us about it, naturally.


Tintin

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Message 187       Tue Apr 25, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 19:22 PDT

Tintin,

 How the heck are those differing processor speeds possible? I would expect the
whole thing to go up in a ball of smoke. What bus speed does it provide?

     Dan

BTW, tried to call Germany this morning and couldn't get to the right person.
Sigh. Guess tomorrow's another day...
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Message 188       Wed Apr 26, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 20:56 EDT

Dan,

I have no idea. A review is scheduled for the next issue. I will report again
then.

I don't know about the Germans, but the French take a long lunch time.


Tintin
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Message 189       Sat Apr 29, 1995
N.FRAGA [RECOIL]             at 13:28 CDT

I'm interested in getting the Barracuda into my F030.  I really need the
improvement in speed, since I use Graphics/DTP alot on the F030 (sometime I
wonder if I would have been better off with the TT030!?).  Anyway since it
(F030) will a require a new home, would the DeskTopper be OK? I would prefer
the Wizz Rack Case but at $500 or so, actually getting it with the 'Cuda would
be impossible, could the DeskTopper be OK for in the meantime??

Recoil.
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Message 190       Mon May 01, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 21:49 PDT

 Does anyone know if the Germans don't work on May Day?

     Dan
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 191       Tue May 02, 1995
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 19:42 EDT

Dan,

May Day is a holiday in all of Europe.

Al
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 192       Wed May 03, 1995
B.DEWITT [Perfesser]         at 20:34 MDT

Wizz;

What is happening with the Barracuda?

Th'Perfesser
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 193       Wed May 03, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 20:49 PDT

 Figured as much. Thought May Day was a Communist holiday, because I only knew
for sure that the Soviets observe it. Then I figured East Germans might still
observe it, then I figured maybe the guys at Hard & Soft were East Germans
(now just Germans again). Anyhow, (way off topic by now) what is May Day?
Also, finally got in touch, but the fax didn't surface so had to send again.
Should be getting shipped tomorrow!!!

     Faster, faster, FASTER!
      Dan

Also off topic: Has anyone tried slapping a 50 MHz PLCC 68882 in a TT to get
the CaTTamaran going? Hate to spend a lot of money for a lark.
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 194       Sat May 06, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 10:08 PDT

 Okay, the Speed Res Card is on the way, should have it late next week. Keep an
eye out for test results and pricing next weekend. Also, a full article should
be submitted to any of the mags that want it by the end of May.

     Dan
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 195       Mon May 08, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 23:29 EDT

Dan,

Looking forward to your report.


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 196       Wed May 10, 1995
B.DEWITT [Perfesser]         at 20:08 MDT

Where, oh where is the Barracuda? Did someone eat it, or is it just another
one of those Falcon beasties that's on the endangered species list? And what's
happened to Mr. Cohen? He hasn't been around here much lately. (Maybe the
Barracuda ate >him<....). Just curious.

Th'Perfesser
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 197       Wed May 10, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 19:43 PDT

 Rumor has it that the FCC wanted another look-see, damn them. Hopefully
Falcons will be able to swim soon!
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 198       Thu May 11, 1995
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 02:19 EDT

Barracuda shmaracuda.

See Flat___
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 199       Fri May 12, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 21:11 PDT

 Excuse me? In the market for a Speed Res? Looking like $300, $350 installed.
_And_ I think I know why _some_ Falcons won't run at 40 MHz/ Nudge, nudge,
wink, wink. An additional $50-75 to do the mod.

     I hope it comes Air Mail, top speed,
       Dan
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 200       Sat May 13, 1995
C.LABELLE [Tintin]           at 00:46 EDT

Dan,

Is there a way to tell in advance if my Falcon would need the mod?


Tintin
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 201       Sat May 13, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 10:30 PDT

Tintin,

 The Speed Res is guaranteed to work on all Falcons at all speeds up to and
including 18 MHz bus/36 MHz CPU. It is only in 20 MHz bus mode that any
problems may arise, and those may only be at 40 MHz. There is no way to tell
in advance whether your machine will need the mod, but I will make the mod
public if my hunch is right, so almost anyone could do it them- selves (but
probably not any cheaper). If you want the install anyhow, the mod is really
just parts on top of the full install. I kinda want to keep it quiet in the
hopes of bargaining for improved support/prices from the  manufacturer.

      Dan
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 202       Sat May 13, 1995
B.AEIN [Bman]                at 16:11 EDT

In case anone cares, I have found out that the F030 to SLM 804 Heat Seaker
hardware is availiable.  They did say that some F030's refuse to work
correctly with it thou.

I plan to get one of these bad boys as soon as possible.

I'll post any info I get.

Bman
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Category 30,  Topic 12
Message 203       Sat May 13, 1995
D.PHILLIPS25                 at 23:05 PDT

 They've previously said it was available... like two years ago. See it before
you buy it. Also, I'd be interested to know if it works with the SLM605 as
well. I really wanted one about 6 months ago. Couldn't wait, bought a HP LJ4P,
expensive, but awesome, and more panel controls than the 5P.

     Dan
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