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To: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:23:47 +0500
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Andy Gibson, who did
thus comment on GUI Ext on the night of 29-Sep-97:
-> Mainly to Giark,

-> I have a question about the GUI Ext for ya...

-> If  I  install  it,  can I make use of the Iconify option even if it's
-> used in a normal Amos proggy such as a game etc?

-> I'm  not  really  interested  in writing WB Aplications with Amos as I
-> feel it's a bit too slow for this, or am I wrong about this too?

-> Thanx in advance...

Hmm, as far as I can tell, it should work with no problems. The only problem
you would have is if you used the GUI AMIGA 1 command, or something similar.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Mr. Giark To You, who
did thus comment on Re: Help on the night of 30-Sep-97:

-> Shuffling the top item down to avoid any blanks in the listview. See?

OK, i see *your* point now. Mine is a bit different, and doesnt mess the list
up
qite so badly as yours does, but both do the same thing, you silly canadian! 
;)

P.S. I posted that cheque yesterday, hope it gets there on 2 regular US
stamps.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Joseph Hewitt, who did
thus comment on Sendai v063 on the night of 01-Oct-97:
-> A minor upgrade, Realm of Sendai v0.63, is now avaliable to anyone
-> who would like to try it out. The main improvements to this version
-> are the completion of the tunnel adventure and the addition of a
-> third town.

-> The next big thing that I plan to add to the game is music, and I'm
-> looking for advice. How do the rest of you go about procuring
-> music? Any suggestions for .mods or composers I should check out?

-> I would like to thank everyone who has tried the game so far for the
-> feedback they've provided. I haven't recieved many responses from the
-> v0.62 archive yet; if anyone has any first impressions, I'd love to
-> hear about them.

Its a nice game, I dont normally go for these kind of games, but you have put
an
exceptional amount of effort into it, especially with the GFX.

One problem I noticed (not sure if its in this newer archive) was after the
school had collapsed, I couldnt use the joystick to select the people who went
with me  =(   the rest seemed to work OK, but you have to remember that most
people dont have a keypad (mainly A600 users).

As for mod composers, try going on aminet or my PD library, and procuring the
email address's from some composers which you like the music from. Maybe they
have an unreleased mod or 2 you could use.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Pietro Ghizzoni, who
did thus comment on Re: Help on the night of 01-Oct-97:

-> Ok,ok.... stop! Now all these kind of sorting,mixing,rotating etc. routines
-> aren't necessary! Now there is the Gui Array command! If you click on
-> 'Four' Gui Array returns 4! The natural way for remove a item from a
-> litview is blanking it.

Yes, we appreciate the command. Just that we were first discussing this before
it had been born, so were discussing various ways. It was a bit arkward to
grab
at first though, wouldnt you agree?

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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Anyone else interested in FTP space from my library? At the moment, I have no
real restrictions on space, and the system also allows the uploading of
archives
remotely (you can FTP them yourselves) without having to send me the file
first.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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To the one known as Mr.Giark,
> BTW, I will soon be entering the world of AGA myself.

Wahay !!!

'bout time too ;-)

cyagain.

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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 03:46:50 -0400
From: Steve Wood <SWOOD@CSI.CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Day of the week anyone?
Sender: Steve Wood <SWOOD@CSI.CompuServe.COM>
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all,

I be looking for a bit of help.  I am writing a diary but need to be able
to validate a given date and return the day of the week the date falls (or
fell) on.  The date validation I have been able to do, including leap
years, but not the day of the week.

Any suggestions, example code?

Thanx

Steve W
Interface Products Specialist (UK)
CompuServe (UK) Ltd

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I have uploaded some example screenshots of the newer version of
my mailinglist manager program. Could members of this list please go
and have a look at them, and give me some feedback.

The URL is http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/ml/index.html

Thanks very much

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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To: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:49:14 -0000
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On 01-Oct-97, Mr. Giark To You wrote:

(re: Iconify in Amos)

>Most likely. There's a similar command in EasyLife.

I  tried  it  before I moved to Amos Pro a couple of years back. Now I
have Easylife for Pro and it doesn't seem to have this command!!! :(

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On 01-Oct-97, Alastair Murray wrote:

(Andy Gibson and GUI)

>I think that's a bit mixed up.
>AMOS is perfectly fine for WB apps with the GUI extension. (unless of
>course you were writing something like a raytracer which needs optimal
>speed).
>Most people actual say the complete opposite, that it is too slow for
>games.

OK I give in! hands up `n' all that...

It's  just  that  I  used  InTOS  before  and  it  was very very slow.
(Although,  this  was  a  pre-release  version sent to me as being the
Amoszine  Editor ya see). Anyway, I thought it was Amos that was slow,
but I guess it was just IntOS all the time :)

Has  anyone  tried  the  Amos OSDev Kit? It was on 3 disks I think and
cost  about 30! I never got round to tring it properly, but I believe
it was supposed to be good and WB applications.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Steve Wood, who did
thus comment on Day of the week anyone? on the night of 01-Oct-97:
-> all,

-> I be looking for a bit of help.  I am writing a diary but need to be able
-> to validate a given date and return the day of the week the date falls (or
-> fell) on.  The date validation I have been able to do, including leap
-> years, but not the day of the week.

The AMCAF extension supports this function fully, as well as the month, day
and
year. I use it for my Mailinglist Manager program to store categorized
mails/postings by their date.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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Hello,

Is there some way to use scalable Compugraphic fonts in AMOS Pro?  I 
think I've used one before, but it came in whatever default size the 
system gave me.  I'd like to specify the size.

Thank you,

John F. Rodgers
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From: bobal@avalon.net (Bob Akerberg  Team *AMIGA*)
Date: 01 Oct 97 05:34:04 -0600
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Eric Hyland and the Amos-listers:
 I know Jeff at Amiga, Inc. and also Darreck Lisle, who is their
PR/Events co-ordinator. I have forwarded your wish list to them,
and I will also call Darreck today and tell him to look for the
EMail. I follow the Amos list, and  read it every day, so any
other info you need passed on to Amiga, Inc., just put it on the list
and I will forward it. This is the most positive way to make sure
they get your mail. They recieve hundreds of Emails a day, but
Darreck always makes sure he reads mine right away.
                               Long Live the Amiga
                               Long Live Amos,
                               Bob Akerberg
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Mr. Giark To You, who
did thus comment on Re: GUI Ext on the night of 01-Oct-97:

-> Most likely. There's a similar command in EasyLife.

Wasnt it the easylife Iconify routine which generated quite a bit of CPU time,
when in iconify mode? I remember using one from an extension ages ago, and it
was quite CPU intensive.

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On 29-Sep-97, Andy Gibson wrote:
>If  I  install  it,  can I make use of the Iconify option even if it's
>used in a normal Amos proggy such as a game etc?

Most likely. There's a similar command in EasyLife.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 09:58:21 -0500
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On 30-Sep-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>Deadline? So, October 15th is the MASTER-deadline when all stages
>are to be complete (as far as having a fully-working demo)?

Not final versions, but something.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 01-Oct-97, Mush wrote:

>I have heard stories of IntOS being mightily cack, and so never pursued
>getting the full version. When I first got hold of the GUI extension, I
>was actiually surprised to see how much AMOS could be sped up for
>applications, especially on a WB screen.

I  was  mighty  impressed with the speed of those demos ya sent me too
m8.  Who  would  have  thought it possible with Amos? The GUI Ext does
seem to be far more powerful than I first thought.

I  downloaded it and now have it slotted in. BTW I also downloaded the
GUI Compiler, but I'm having serious problems with it!

I  have it set up in my Amos Pro pull down menu, but when I access it,
it  obviously  throws  me  back to WB, but I thought the listing in my
interpreter would have been already set up to be compiled!

But  no!  I  have  to manually type in the filename I want to compile.
This  is  where  the  real  problem  occurs.  When I click on the LOAD
button, I get the good old Software Failure - Suspend/Reboot option!

It  works  fine if I manually type in the filename, but not if I click
on the LOAD button. Does anyone have this problem too?

And  can I use the GUI Compiler for normal Amos proggy compiling or is
it just for GUI applications?

>This is another one that ive heard a few stories on, but never
>actually seen it in person to really decide for myself.
>Why pay 30 pounds for 3 disks, when the GUI extension does it all,
>and much more, for just postcardware!

I  agree, the Amos OS Dev Kit was far too expensive and from what I've
heard,  it was a right barst to use too. Although it was claimed to be
quite good if you knew what you were doing!!!

Still,  GUI  wins  the  day yet again. You've talked me into trying it
out.

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On 01-Oct-97, Mush wrote:
>Did anyone else read the nasty article in AF (September 97) on the
>bottom right of page 16, by Ben Vost saying AMOS was useless at making
>OS based applications?

Yup!

>I think i'll mail my Mailinglist Manager program to him directly and
>ask him to rethink when he see's what the GUI extension can do, hehe.

You probably won't get a response! :(

But  your  idea  is  a  good  one and I think all the List guyz should
create  a  small  GUI  example and someone could send 'em all to Amiga
Format at once :)

In fact, it might be better if they were all sent individually to show
AF  how  pissed  off  Amos  users are when we read such crap about our
favourite language.

If  AF  think  Amos  is so crap, why on Earth did they see fit to give
away a coverdisk version all those months ago? And why oh why did they
used  to praise it to the high heavens and include source code on past
cover disks etc...?

Contradicting themselves methinx :)

Anyway,  AF  is turning out to be a real shitty mag! CU is much better
(as far as the CD's go anyway)

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On 01-Oct-97, Mush wrote:
>I can tell you this for free, that petro's GUI extension is the fastest
>available to all AMOS users, and its free.

Gee! Thanx mom! hehehe

Cool advertising there methinx m8y...

Thanx  for  the demo's ya sent also. Amazing to see it in action....at
last.

BTW  I  also  had a quick look at the Amos MUI proggy a while back and
found it intersting, to say the least. Let's piss all over Blitz users
with some great MUI/GUI Amos coded jobbies please :)

We'll  show  Amiga  Format that Amos is still going strong and is well
capable of wb apps.

Do  you think we would all be wasting our time if we all sent at least
one little GUI demo to AF to get the point across?

I'll be in if everyone else agrees?

All we really need is a proper AGA Ext now and we're laughing....

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On 30-Sep-97, Mush wrote:
>One problem I noticed (not sure if its in this newer archive)
> was after the school had collapsed, I couldnt use the joystick
> to select the people who went with me  =(   the rest seemed to
> work OK, but you have to remember that most people dont have a
> keypad (mainly A600 users).

Oops. Guess I better make another release- v0.64. I've fixed the
problem with joystick control in party selection, and also added
support for the cursor keys + enter.

As I've just graduated University, this game will probably have
the fastest tech support on the net... at least until I find a job!

            - Joseph Hewitt.



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From: "Lee." <l.a.atkins@uclan.ac.uk>
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In adition to the day of the week thing.
CurrentTime() returns the number of seconds since when?
(CurrentTime is a library function)

 
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On 02-Oct-97, Mr. Giark To You wrote:

>Amos To Back
>A=Eliconify Amos(X,Y,TITLE$)
>Amos To Front

Thanx m8. I thought the Pro version of Easylife had done away with the
iconify command. How did I miss that?

Many thanx once again...

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On 29-Set-97, Andy Gibson wrote: GUI Ext

>Mainly to Giark,

Well... i'm not Giark but ;) .....

>I have a question about the GUI Ext for ya...

>If  I  install  it,  can I make use of the Iconify option even if it's
>used in a normal Amos proggy such as a game etc?

Yes.

>I'm  not  really  interested  in writing WB Aplications with Amos as I
>feel it's a bit too slow for this, or am I wrong about this too?

??? You can create COOL wb application in Amos! Try the GUI extension...

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Rod Whiteley, who did
thus comment on GUIExt on the night of 02-Oct-97:

-> Just a quick question for the GUIExt Experts:

Ooh, fire away...

-> I'm currently porting all of the AMOSPro apps I use here at work to use the
-> GUIExt. This means that I currently need to use standard AMOSPro and
-> AMOSPro+GuiExt alternately. My problem is there seems to be no way to end a
-> programme, and kill AMOSPro altogether (to give control back to the
workbench
-> with no trace of AMOSPro still running).

I dont quite get what you mean exactly here. Are you trying to quit out of
AMOS
and shut it down altogether, or just hide it from view. If you use the AMOS TO
BACK/AMOS TO FRONT commands in your progams, the AMOSPro editor will shift to
the back, giving workbench back etc. To quit the AMOSPro from within a
program,
use any command which would end a session in the editor, such as END, EDIT,
DIRECT etc.

-> Sure I can hide the AMOSProit when it
-> finishes, but if someone starts another app from the workbench, then AMOS
is
-> still in the background (at the editor displaying the last line of the
prog.)

>From this, it would sound like you are not compiling your programs with the
compiler. I am selling the AMOSPro compiler now for around 14 UK pounds, go to
WWW.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk for more details.

To make your program shut down AMOSPro altogether from the editor, you should
use the SYSTEM command, but beware, this will completely shut AMOS down.

-> This would be O.K. but AMOSPro doesn't let me do this reliably (disc access
-> always means a crash), and I guess I'm chewing up a whole bunch of memory
each
-> time. What to do?

The GUI Extension compiler patch allows you to compile programs, and also
allows
you to run any number of AMOS programs together, without messing any of them
up,
its really quite amazing. It doesnt use a whole lot of memory either when you
compile your programs.

-> TIA,
-> Rod
-> By and by, how do I get a hold of v1.63?

The V1.63 is only available to beta testers at the moment, as pietro is still
adding a few more cunning commands to it. When it comes out, it will be
available from my AMOS FTP site.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Andy Gibson, who did
thus comment on Re: GUI Ext on the night of 01-Oct-97:

-> OK I give in! hands up `n' all that...

-> It's  just  that  I  used  InTOS  before  and  it  was very very slow.
-> (Although,  this  was  a  pre-release  version sent to me as being the
-> Amoszine  Editor ya see). Anyway, I thought it was Amos that was slow,
-> but I guess it was just IntOS all the time :)

I have heard stories of IntOS being mightily cack, and so never pursued
getting
the full version. When I first got hold of the GUI extension, I was actiually
surprised to see how much AMOS could be sped up for applications, especially
on
a WB screen.

-> Has  anyone  tried  the  Amos OSDev Kit? It was on 3 disks I think and
-> cost  about 30! I never got round to tring it properly, but I believe
-> it was supposed to be good and WB applications.

This is another one that ive heard a few stories on, but never actually seen
it
in person to really decide for myself. Why pay 30 pounds for 3 disks, when the
GUI extension does it all, and much more, for just postcardware!

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Is it possible to make amos 2 change lines with another assii value than
then MS-DOS chr$(13)?

When i read a text file without that i will recive an error mezz
(input to long), 

Ex
open in 1,a$
repeat
input #1,b$
until pof(1)=lof(1)

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Did anyone else read the nasty article in AF (September 97) on the bottom
right
of page 16, by Ben Vost saying AMOS was useless at making OS based
applications?

I think i'll mail my Mailinglist Manager program to him directly and ask him
to
rethink when he see's what the GUI extension can do, hehe.

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Does anyone know if Wibble World Giddy was done in AMOS, it looks very much
like
it is, and im sure ive heard it somewhere.

The ver I d/l from Aminet has a trainer and a cruncher, so i cant binary read
the file easy.

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On 01-Oct-97, mtl.wberg@swipnet.se wrote:
>Is it possible to make amos 2 change lines with another assii value than
>then MS-DOS chr$(13)?

Sure is...

>When i read a text file without that i will recive an error mezz
>(input to long), 
>Ex
>open in 1,a$
>repeat
>input #1,b$
>until pof(1)=lof(1)

Nah! You don't wanna do it like that!

F$="yourtextfilepath"
BNK=10 : Rem Any Bank
Open in 1,F$
L=Lof(1)
Close 1
Reserve As Data BNK,L
Bload F$,Start(BNK)

ST=Start(BNK)

Do
  Exit If ST=>Length(BNK) : Rem I think this may be wrong!!!
  A$=Peek$(ST,79,Chr$(10)) : Rem 79 chars and Chr$(10) checked.
  Add ST,Len(A$)+1
  Print A$
Loop

The  above  is  just  from  my  memory, so it may not be 100%! You can
change the Chr$(10) to Chr$(13) if reading MS-DOS files.

If  that's  not  what  your after, I'm sure that the LDos Ext has some
commands to change the EOL character search.

eg.

Lset Eoln 13 : Rem MS-DOS check

or

Lset Eoln 10 : Rem Amiga-DOS check

Check out the LDos dox for more great string handling....

Hope this has helped :)

Andy Gee!

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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 00:22:31 -0000
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On 02-Oct-97, Peter Falkesand wrote:
>Hi All..

Hi...

>Is there some good extension that converts Dec to Hex ???

Dunno, sorry :(

>I know AMOS has one of it self but i doesn't like it.
>A$=Hex$(50) give me the answer $32
>But i doesn't want the $-sign in the value.. 

Simply do the following....

A$=Hex$(50)
B$=A$-"$"
Print B$

Which will give the value 32 without the leading `$'

hope this helps :)

>Happy to get answers..

Sorry  I didn't have answers to your other quesies, but I'm sure I was
even late with the above :(

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Just a quick question for the GUIExt Experts:
I'm currently porting all of the AMOSPro apps I use here at work to use the
GUIExt. This means that I currently need to use standard AMOSPro and
AMOSPro+GuiExt alternately. My problem is there seems to be no way to end a
programme, and kill AMOSPro altogether (to give control back to the workbench
with no trace of AMOSPro still running). Sure I can hide the AMOSProit when it
finishes, but if someone starts another app from the workbench, then AMOS is
still in the background (at the editor displaying the last line of the prog.)
This would be O.K. but AMOSPro doesn't let me do this reliably (disc access
always means a crash), and I guess I'm chewing up a whole bunch of memory each
time. What to do?
TIA,
Rod
By and by, how do I get a hold of v1.63?
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Hi Jace,

#On 03-Oct-97, Hayman J wrote:#
>I need to create a boot disk to boot my project of my hard drive. I've   
>done this once before and I know I needed the following folders...

I`ve just been doing this myself with my Monty game. I`ve also had 
problems booting up on 1.3 but now boots up perfectly.

>C

You dont really need this drawer, its basically only there to hold
Commands. If you want you can put any executable in the root drawer but
this just makes things untidy.

>S

Like you said this drawer is only really used for the startup-sequence.
Some proggys make prefs files here but that mainly for app proggys.

>Libs

This drawer is pretty obvious. Just copy over any libs you may need to
use. For example copy over the math librarys if your using any of the
math commands and copy over the diskfont.library if your using any
font reading. But remember to copy the correct versions of these
librarys because newer versions will make the executable bug out on 1.3
(as I already know :(  Cheers Andy)

Another drawer you forgot is the L drawer. This is used for certain 
handlers. If your using certain ports or drives. For example copy over
the ram-handler if your using the ram: disk.

>Has anyone made a working boot disk?

Yep I have, and its working perfectly now (havent I said that before ?)

Hope this helps Jace,

Anthony Sherratt
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 10:08:32 -0500
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On 30-Sep-97, Andy Gibson wrote:
>(re: Iconify in Amos)
>>Most likely. There's a similar command in EasyLife.
>I  tried  it  before I moved to Amos Pro a couple of years back. Now I
>have Easylife for Pro and it doesn't seem to have this command!!! :(

Amos To Back
A=Eliconify Amos(X,Y,TITLE$)
Amos To Front

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 02-Oct-97, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote:
>     When Amiga Format did their top 100 games and applications.  They put 
>     Amos Pro in around the 90's and commented that it only made the top 
>     100 due to it's popularity.
>Did anyone else read the nasty article in AF (September 97) on the bottom 
>right of page 16, by Ben Vost saying AMOS was useless at making OS based 
>applications?

All this will fall by the wayside once CB gets released! 

Well met and godspeed,
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     When Amiga Format did their top 100 games and applications.  They put 
     Amos Pro in around the 90's and commented that it only made the top 
     100 due to it's popularity.


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Author:  Mush <mushypd@redrose.net> at Internet
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Did anyone else read the nasty article in AF (September 97) on the bottom 
right
of page 16, by Ben Vost saying AMOS was useless at making OS based 
applications?
     
I think i'll mail my Mailinglist Manager program to him directly and ask him 
to
rethink when he see's what the GUI extension can do, hehe.
     
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To:	Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Subj:	Re: Creating a boot disk...

>>I need to create a boot disk to boot my project of my hard drive. I've
>>done this once before and I know I needed the following folders...

>I`ve just been doing this myself with my Monty game. I`ve also had=20
>problems booting up on 1.3 but now boots up perfectly.
>.........

The DEVS drawer also helps. Your 1.3 system-configuration sits here, as
well as your device handlers (eg narrator.device if you're using speech).
It's not required, though.

The other thing you'll need to do is "install" the disk...
Open a Shell window, insert your disk, and type "install df0:" (or
whatever drive it's in).
The install program writes a valid bootblock to the disk. Without this,
it'll never boot.


Ok. Hope that's helpful!

See ya'll


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Hi All..

Now i have a question for all of ya AMOS freaks out there!!!

Is there some good extension that converts Dec to Hex ???

I know AMOS has one of it self but i doesn't like it.

A$=Hex$(50) give me the answer $32
But i doesn't want the $-sign in the value.. 

How do i copy a section of memory Ex.(175760-1788332) to
section (278544-281616)????



And now to my second problem!

If i load a hiscore with 
Bload"bla:bla.blascore",5
and a second one with
Bload"bla:bla.blascore2",6

how do i merge them into one hiscore??

with the highest first etc..
( i only need a type of sort routine or ???)

Happy to get answers..


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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was mtl.wberg@swipnet.se,
who did thus comment on need help on the night of 02-Oct-97:
-> Is it possible to make amos 2 change lines with another assii value than
-> then MS-DOS chr$(13)?

-> When i read a text file without that i will recive an error mezz
-> (input to long), 

-> Ex
-> open in 1,a$
-> repeat
-> input #1,b$
-> until pof(1)=lof(1)

This is a common problem which can easily be solved:

Ex
Open In 1,a$ : Set Input 10,-1

Repeat
Line Input #1,B$
Until Eof(1)

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Greetings,
                I'm trying to find sites etc., actually anything about
the Professional version.

Any leads or sites would be appreciated.

Regards...Martin

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From: "Templeton, Jeremy" <J.Templeton@cosgrove.tased.edu.au>
To: "'mushypd@redrose.net'" <mushypd@redrose.net>
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Subject: RE: Wibble World Giddy
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:59:16 +1000
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>>Does anyone know if Wibble World Giddy was done in AMOS, it looks very much
>>like
>>it is, and im sure ive heard it somewhere.
>I'd guess so, since the sequel is.
>>The ver I d/l from Aminet has a trainer and a cruncher, so i cant binary
>>read
>>the file easy.
You can unpack any crunched file using the xfd decrunching tools off the
aminet.  You could read it then.

	- J. Templeton

>	- Realm Productions
>

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Andy Gibson, who did
thus comment on Re: GUI Ext on the night of 01-Oct-97:

-> I  was  mighty  impressed with the speed of those demos ya sent me too
-> m8.  Who  would  have  thought it possible with Amos? The GUI Ext does
-> seem to be far more powerful than I first thought.

I am actually working on a larger, full GUI extension demo, which will cover
all
of its various powers. Because of the way Petro wrote it, it is as fast as it
possibly can go.

-> I  downloaded it and now have it slotted in. BTW I also downloaded the
-> GUI Compiler, but I'm having serious problems with it!

The GUI compiler should be in the same archive. You will need to run the
GUIPatch.AMOS program, which copies your system files and makes a patched
version of the APCmp compiler routine.

-> I  have it set up in my Amos Pro pull down menu, but when I access it,
-> it  obviously  throws  me  back to WB, but I thought the listing in my
-> interpreter would have been already set up to be compiled!

-> But  no!  I  have  to manually type in the filename I want to compile.
-> This  is  where  the  real  problem  occurs.  When I click on the LOAD
-> button, I get the good old Software Failure - Suspend/Reboot option!

-> It  works  fine if I manually type in the filename, but not if I click
-> on the LOAD button. Does anyone have this problem too?

Hmm, ive never had this problem. Try to compile the GUI Compiler as an
executable, and run it that way. You will need to direct it to the GUICmp
program before you can use it. If that still has problems, I suggest you get a
newer version of the ASL.library routines.

-> And  can I use the GUI Compiler for normal Amos proggy compiling or is
-> it just for GUI applications?

I think it can be used for normal AMOS programs, but unless they have valuable
GUI commands inside them, I wouldnt reccomend it.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Andy Gibson, who did
thus comment on Re: Nasty AMOS article in Amiga Format on the night of
01-Oct-97:

-> But  your  idea  is  a  good  one and I think all the List guyz should
-> create  a  small  GUI  example and someone could send 'em all to Amiga
-> Format at once :)

When I finish off my demo, I will definately be sending it in!

-> In fact, it might be better if they were all sent individually to show
-> AF  how  pissed  off  Amos  users are when we read such crap about our
-> favourite language.

-> If  AF  think  Amos  is so crap, why on Earth did they see fit to give
-> away a coverdisk version all those months ago? And why oh why did they
-> used  to praise it to the high heavens and include source code on past
-> cover disks etc...?

-> Contradicting themselves methinx :)

-> Anyway,  AF  is turning out to be a real shitty mag! CU is much better
-> (as far as the CD's go anyway)

Yeah, they just have no clue. Like for instance, Starboy (which is the game of
the issue on the floppy disks) was written in Classic AMOS, so they are
burning
their own britches slightly here.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Andy Gibson, who did
thus comment on Re: AMOS Is sloooow at GUI eh? on the night of 01-Oct-97:

-> BTW  I  also  had a quick look at the Amos MUI proggy a while back and
-> found it intersting, to say the least. Let's piss all over Blitz users
-> with some great MUI/GUI Amos coded jobbies please :)

-> We'll  show  Amiga  Format that Amos is still going strong and is well
-> capable of wb apps.

-> Do  you think we would all be wasting our time if we all sent at least
-> one little GUI demo to AF to get the point across?

-> I'll be in if everyone else agrees?

-> All we really need is a proper AGA Ext now and we're laughing....

Hmm, I tried one MUI extension-type system a while back, and couldnt get it to
work at all, but I might try again soon.

What would be nice for MUI extension (super hint-hint) is an ultra-GUI creator
(like gadtoolsbox, but with all the major capabilities a MUI application can
display) so we can make even more powerfull functions.

I might try it once again when I finish my mailinglist manager.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Peter Falkesand, who
did thus comment on Sorting routine. on the night of 03-Oct-97:
-> Hi!

-> Is there a smooth way to sort 20 variables???

-> and not do like this..

-> --------------------------------

-> If score1_1(1)>score2_1(1)

-> Loke S7+40,Leek(S5+20)

-> endif

-> if score1_2(2)>score2_1(1)

-> loke s7+60,leek(s5+40)

-> endif

-> -------------------------------

Hmm, i have never *ever* tried to do it this way, it would be wayyy to big.
Twinz used a high score table of 3 sets of 10 positions, and i'll go get the
source and paste it into here...

      For N=1 To 10
         TP=TSCORE(N)
         If SCORE>TP : Rem or N=2 
            For O=10 To N Step -1 : TSCORE(O)=TSCORE(O-1) :
TSCORE$(O)=TSCORE$(O-1) : Next O
            TSCORE(N)=SCORE : TSCORE$(N)=TEX$
         End If 
      Next N

The routine finds the position of the highest point in the table it can go (if
any) by running through all possible entries, and its higher value will be
first, and N will be loaded with the current slightly-lower value.

The second part of the routine, shuffles them all down by 1 position, from 1
to
2, 2 to 3 etc. and inserts the value in SCORE in the correct space.

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On 02-Oct-97, mtl.wberg@swipnet.se wrote:

>When i read a text file without that i will recive an error mezz
>(input to long), 

>Ex
>open in 1,a$
>repeat
>input #1,b$
>until pof(1)=lof(1)

Your better off to load the text file into a memory bank. Once this is
done then just Peek from it to read each letter and type to the screen.

Screen Open 0,640,200,2,Hires

F$=Fsel$("")
Open In 1,F$ : L=Lof(1) : Close 1 : Rem Gets file size 
Reserve As Work 10,L : Rem Can be any bank number 
Bload F$,Start(10) : Rem Load file into memory
'
While POS<L
   LINE$=Peek$(Start(10)+POS,100,Chr$(10))
   Print LINE$
   Add POS,Len(LINE$)+1
Wend 

Hope this helps,

Anthony Sherratt

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>Hi!

Hi Peter

>Is there a smooth way to sort 20 variables???

If your using arrays (I think you are from the example) your better off
to use 'for` loops.  Is this for a high score table ?  Anyways heres
some example code.

Dim HISCORES(19),HINAME$(19) } At the beginning of the program 

For C=19 To 0 Step -1                      }  Checks where your
   If SCORE>HISCORES(C) : POS=C : End If   }  score ranks in the
Next C                                     }  high score table
'
For C=18 To POS Step -1
   HISCORES(C+1)=HISCORES(C) : HINAME$(C+1)=HINAME$(C) } Knocks all the
Next C                                     } down one from your pos
'
HISCORES(POS)=SCORE : HINAME$(POS)=NM$     }  Puts your details into
                                           }  high score

If you need proper high score code then just email me personally and 
I`ll give you some.

Anthony Sherratt

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Hi!

Is there a smooth way to sort 20 variables???

and not do like this..

--------------------------------

If score1_1(1)>score2_1(1)

Loke S7+40,Leek(S5+20)

endif

if score1_2(2)>score2_1(1)

loke s7+60,leek(s5+40)

endif

-------------------------------


This way makes the program very big..!

Any soloution anyone????


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>Hi!

>Is there a smooth way to sort 20 variables???
>and not do like this..

>--------------------------------
>If score1_1(1)>score2_1(1)
>   Loke S7+40,Leek(S5+20)
>endif
>if score1_2(2)>score2_1(1)
>   loke s7+60,leek(s5+40)
>endif
>-------------------------------

>This way makes the program very big..!
>Any soloution anyone????


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There's loads of different methods of sorting an array.
Most of them use loops. The quickest ones use recursion.

I'm sure there's a "Sort" command in Amos. I recall ever having
used it, but I'm sure it's there.

If you can't use that, try this:

cnt   - loop counter
cnt2  - second loop counter
siz   - number of array elements
srt() - the array to sort
tmp   - a temporary var to hold a copy of one srt().

For cnt=1 to siz-1
   For cnt2=cnt+1 to siz
      Rem Out of sequence?
      If srt(cnt) > srt(cnt2)
	 Rem then swap the two variables.
         tmp=srt(cnt)
	 srt(cnt)=srt(cnt2)
	 srt(cnt2)=tmp
      Endif
   Next
Next


A recursive 'quick sort' would be much quicker, but isn't easy to
understand like this one.

Hope that answers your question.

See ya.




         SimonC.

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Hello everybody out there..

I'm going to start out on a BIG project, an AMOS clone of Civilization,
here's a few improvements in relation to the original..

- MUCH bigger maps
- More various landtypes (Ideas, please !!)
- More various units (Ideas, please !!)
- More units allowed
- More city improvements (Ideas, please !!)
- Units gets XP's (So that an experienced unit is better than a rookie)
- Possibility to be seveal human players
- Upgrading units (keeping their XP's with new weappons)
- Cities can expand their grounds (Getting VERY big)
- City names can use 'special' characters (, , , , etc.)

I would love to hear about ideas and comments for this project, also I'm
looking for people who'd like to test it as I'm getting along and I'd like
to get in touch with some cool GFX people to draw landtiles and units.

But, as i'm planing to open for 256 various landtiles and 65536 unittypes
(I know sound wild, but planning it is easy), and I'd like to run everything
on a 64 colours EHB screen (making all tiles 64 EHB too) gets me in serious
trouble in relation to chip-ram (using icons/bobs), I've planed to reserve
a work-bank and put 'em there and then transfering the tiles/units with
Doke/Deek (width is 16). I know how that is done (not my first time), but
I was wondering if anyone had a better way of doing this, but it has to use
FAST-ram, (Cblocks is to slow, Icons and blocks uses Chip and loading from
HD is to slow)...

Just wondered, do you think it sounds to much to run on 64 colours screen ??

NB: If any of you've got graphics on stock I'd be very grateful, so I'll
have something to start on, The tile-size for both land and units will
be 16*16 in 64c EHB...
-- 
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On 02-Okt-97, Peter Falkesand smashed the keyboard with:
>Hi All..

Hello


>Now i have a question for all of ya AMOS freaks out there!!!

Who ME ?? :-))


>Is there some good extension that converts Dec to Hex ???
>I know AMOS has one of it self but i doesn't like it.
>A$=Hex$(50) give me the answer $32
>But i doesn't want the $-sign in the value.. 

Use:
A$=Hex$(50)-"$"
or:
A$=Mid$(Hex$(50),2)

>How do i copy a section of memory Ex.(175760-1788332) to
>section (278544-281616)????

I haven't checked it, but something like:
Copy Start_of_Source,End_of_Sorce to Start_of_Dest
(Be sure that you've got enough memory at Dest or crash..)
 

>And now to my second problem!
>If i load a hiscore with 
>Bload"bla:bla.blascore",5
>and a second one with
>Bload"bla:bla.blascore2",6

>how do i merge them into one hiscore??

>with the highest first etc..
>(i only need a type of sort routine or ???)

Uhh, reserve a new bank with enough room to hold both lists, then sort 'em
out and put 'em in using the order you'd like, an easy high-hunter should
be enough as I don't expect you've got that many to remember, and to make
very advanced binary sorting on that is a waste of time.. (High-hunt= run
down the list to find the highest value, store that, then run down again
the find the second, and so on)

>Happy to get answers..

Happy to give answers..
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From: "Lee." <l.a.atkins@uclan.ac.uk>
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> Hi!
> 
> Is there a smooth way to sort 20 variables???
> 
This is the second sorting thing written so heres my bubble sort 
routine.
Im doing this now from memory so it may/may not work

Dim v(20)               <-our variables
...
.....

Repeat
c=0
For q=1 to 19
IF v(q)>v(q+1)
 temp=v(q)
 v(q)=v(q+1)
 v(q+1)=temp         <-swap em round
 c=1
END IF
Next q
Until c=0

That should work!! hopefuly
____________________________________
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L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK

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On 03-Okt-97, Peter Falkesand smashed the keyboard with:
>Hi!

>Is there a smooth way to sort 20 variables???
>and not do like this..

>--------------------------------

>If score1_1(1)>score2_1(1)

>Loke S7+40,Leek(S5+20)

>endif

>if score1_2(2)>score2_1(1)

>loke s7+60,leek(s5+40)

>endif

>-------------------------------
*sigh*, that's BIG

>This way makes the program very big..!
>Any soloution anyone????

This is from memory, so might not be perfect:

L=$7FFFFFFF 
For A=1 to 20
   T=-1 : SN=-1
   For B=2 to 20
      If SCORE(B)>T and SCORE(B)<L
         T=SCORE(B) : SN=B 
      Endif
   Next B
   If SN>-1
      'SN will hold the index-number of the score
      'Put is down where you'd like it to be
      'A holds the rating of the score (1=High, 20=Low)
   Else
      Exit
   Endif
   L=T 
Next A

NOTE: This won't handle two equal scores (I'll lose one of 'em), but that
should not be so hard to handle (Let me know if you got problems with it)

-- 
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Robert Bankston, who
did thus comment on Arexx question on the night of 04-Oct-97:
-> Hey I know this isn't AMOS related but as many AMOS programmers are
-> bi-lingual (in the computer sense), I thought I'd ask.  

-> I don't know Arexx at all but what I'd like to do is have a script that I
-> can run from Final Writer which will load all Final Writers documents
-> within a given directory and save them as ASCII files with a different
-> extension.  I don't have a clue though on how to do this.  Any ARexx
-> literate folks care to shed some light on this?  Thanks for the help.

If a program has an AREXX port, they usually come with a set of instructions
in
the documentation files which tell you basically how to use the main program
via
a script.

What they will do, is perform actions in the program from a command-line, pre
set level, so they can perform common tasks etc.

It would be a good idea to study these commands, then make an ASCII file with
them in (according to the documentation) and run it with RX whilst Final
writer
is running.

Ive dabbled in REXX a little bit, I wrote a POP3 retrieval script and a few
other bits and bats, and the programs that use REXX usually have their own
command sets anyhow.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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Hey I know this isn't AMOS related but as many AMOS programmers are
bi-lingual (in the computer sense), I thought I'd ask.  

I don't know Arexx at all but what I'd like to do is have a script that I
can run from Final Writer which will load all Final Writers documents
within a given directory and save them as ASCII files with a different
extension.  I don't have a clue though on how to do this.  Any ARexx
literate folks care to shed some light on this?  Thanks for the help.

Robert

 

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On 01-Ott-97, Andy Gibson wrote: Re: GUI Ext


>It's  just  that  I  used  InTOS  before  and  it  was very very slow.
>(Although,  this  was  a  pre-release  version sent to me as being the
>Amoszine  Editor ya see). Anyway, I thought it was Amos that was slow,
>but I guess it was just IntOS all the time :)

IntOS... *arrrgghhhhh!!!!* A very stupid program..... it is the tipical
example of how a Amiga program shouldn't be written!


>Has  anyone  tried  the  Amos OSDev Kit? It was on 3 disks I think and
>cost  about 30! I never got round to tring it properly, but I believe
>it was supposed to be good and WB applications.


I've tried it.... but it's very boring to use. You can create an
application only if you have a deep knowledge of the Amiga OS.

-- 

Bye!


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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Date: 4 Oct 97 14:16:16 +0000
Subject: Re: AMOSList
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> Is the AMOS list down or is it just me who doesn't receive anything?

I'm recieving OK but I'm not sure that I'm sending OK. I never seem to
get my mail back that I send to the list any more. Has the list
changed so that it doesn't do this anymore or is something wrong or am
I just wrong?

-Murray

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Hi!

I wanna thank you people who gived me some sorting routines
examples...

(i never thinked it was that many ways.) :)

THANX!!!


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Hi all!

Now i'm really pissed off...

I'm writing this hiscore merger and it's getting big.. 
Then the text buffer get's to small and i thought yup.. just to
do the buffer bigger.. Worked fine... But now when i'm loading the .AMOS
file it ask's for adjust buffer size, sure.. do it.. 
But when i'm pushed F1 it all crash.. GURU..! U know..

What's wrong.. If i load the .AMOS file, and adjust the buffer size..
and copy the listing to a new listing.. It all works fine.. But the old
listing won't work...

Anyone got the solution?????


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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 10:28:10 -0500
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On 03-Oct-97, Anthony Sherratt wrote:
HISCORES(C+1)=HISCORES(C) : HINAME$(C+1)=HINAME$(C)

Ever think of using Swap var1,var2? It's actually faster. Yes Swap is an amos
command.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>
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To: Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 20:05:30 +0100
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On 01-Ott-97, Andy Gibson wrote: Re: GUI Ext

>I  downloaded it and now have it slotted in. BTW I also downloaded the
>GUI Compiler, but I'm having serious problems with it!

Oh no... you must use the GUI Compiler supplied in the GUI extension v1.62
archive. The one available on Aminet is a old version...


>I  have it set up in my Amos Pro pull down menu, but when I access it,
>it  obviously  throws  me  back to WB, but I thought the listing in my
>interpreter would have been already set up to be compiled!

>But  no!  I  have  to manually type in the filename I want to compile.
>This  is  where  the  real  problem  occurs.  When I click on the LOAD
>button, I get the good old Software Failure - Suspend/Reboot option!

Install the new GUI Compiler/Shell and try again.


>And  can I use the GUI Compiler for normal Amos proggy compiling or is
>it just for GUI applications?

NO... you can use it for GUI application only. The GUI Compiler removes ALL
the Amos patches since the GUI works in a intuition enviroment, and it
doesn't needs all the Amos bullshits. But if you must display Amos screens,
and so on you must use the standard compiler.

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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 00:21:04 +0500
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On 03-Oct-97, Mush wrote something that made me wanna write too:

>Yeah, they just have no clue. Like for instance, Starboy (which is the game
of
>the issue on the floppy disks) was written in Classic AMOS, so they are
>burning
>their own britches slightly here.

And not forgetting my Monty The Wolf game. Its also written in AMOSPro
and was on thier 100th issue (the issue before the StarBoy game). 

Two issues on a trot, kinda makes you think doesnt it ?


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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 01:38:05 +0500
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Here is an AMOS program I wrote with the GUI Extension I uploaded to
Aminet. Please try and have a look at it when you get the time. I can mail
it personally to anyone if they want it.

Mush

Short:    Post Same Mails to Large Lists of Recipients Easily
Author:   Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net)
Uploader: Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net)
Type:     comm/mail

Ever had a large list of email recipients who you want to send the same
mail to, such as a mailing list of people for example, and cant be bothered
to make each individual message in YAM, or use the BCC: function in case it
messes up, well now you can safetly.

This small program has a simple GUI which allows you to input the necessary
data, such as where the list of recipients is, and the ASCII file you wish
to send them, your Email address, and its just a case of hitting the GO!
button.

Fully customizable interface, which supports many tooltypes for ease of
use, including GUI font sensitivity.

This program is WWW-ware, which means in order to keep using this free
utility, you must visit my Amiga WWW pages at
http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and have a look around, and maybe learn a
few things!!

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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Im having a problem with AMOSPro, and I dont know if it is the Pro editor
itself, or something in the GUI extension that is affecting it.

The problem is quite simple. My source code is being tampered with. Im
using a procedure which executes a DOS command, and sends its output to a
window which I define. Its not a GUI extension window, either. I'll rip the
source code for the procedures im using, and be right back... OK Here they
are:

Procedure WCL[N]
   ' This procedure closes a window I have opened
   If WINCON(N)=0 Then Goto ERR
   Dreg(1)=WINCON(N)
   X=Doscall(-36)
   If X=0
      Goto ERR
   End If 
   Pop Proc
   ERR:
   ERR=Doscall(-132)
   '   System 
   End 
End Proc

Procedure WEX[N,COM$]
   ' This procedure will execute a DOS command in COM$ and send the output
   ' To Window (N)
   If WINCON(N)=0 Then Goto ERR
   Dreg(1)=Varptr(COM$)
   Dreg(2)=0
   Dreg(3)=WINCON(N)
   X=Doscall(-222)
   If Len(COM$)>0
      V=Varptr(COM$)
      For ZZ=0 To Len(COM$)-1 : Poke ZZ+V,0 : Next ZZ
   End If 
   If X=0
      Goto ERR
   End If 
   Pop Proc
   ERR:
   ERR=Doscall(-132)
End Proc

Procedure WOP[N,X,Y,XX,YY,NAME$]
   ' This opens a CLI window XX=Width  YY=Height  NAME$=Title
   X$=Str$(X)-" "
   Y$=Str$(Y)-" "
   XX$=Str$(XX)-" "
   YY$=Str$(YY)-" "
   CON$="CON:"+X$+"/"+Y$+"/"+XX$+"/"+YY$+"/"+NAME$
   CON$=CON$+Chr$(0)
   Dreg(1)=Varptr(CON$)
   Dreg(2)=1005
   WINCON(N)=Doscall(-30)
   If WINCON(N)=0
      ERR=Doscall(-132)
      'System  
      End 
   End If 
End Proc

Procedure WPR[N,M$]
   ' This prints the text in M$ to Window (N)
   If WINCON(N)=0 Then Goto ERR
   Dreg(1)=WINCON(N)
   Dreg(2)=Varptr(M$)
   Dreg(3)=Len(M$)
   X=Doscall(-48)
   If X=0
      Goto ERR
   End If 
   Pop Proc
   ERR:
   ERR=Doscall(-132)
   WCL[1]
   '  System  
   End 
End Proc

OK, the above procedures are the ones which involve the CLI tasking which I
am/was using in my program. The below procedure is one of the ones which
are seriously affected by the problem...

Procedure _GETNEWS
   ' Executes the AREXX script which will grab the news for the user. 
   
   If Not Exist("Mailserv:REXX/NNTPTransfer") : Rem News Recovery Program
      SEL=Gui Req("News Recovery Error...","Cannot find news recovery
script."+Chr$(10)+"Please check you installed program correctly","OK")
      Pop Proc
   End If 
   
   ' Open up a CLI window and grab the news!
   Proc WOP[2,50,50,540,100,"Mailinglist Manager Output..."]
   Proc WPR[2,"Attempting to Execute News Recovery script"+Chr$(10)+Chr$(10)]
   Proc WEX[2,"SYS:REXXC/Rx Mailserv:REXX/NNTPTransfer"]
   Wait 200
   WCL[2]
End Proc

Now, the real problem is the fact that the routine is deleting the contents
of the WEX[""] line, no matter where i run it from, and no matter what is
in it, when I go back to source format, the line will read:

   Proc WEX["

Thats it, it misses a quote, and a square bracket. The wierdest thing, is
it tests OK, and will run again, but the contents that were in it are
annulled and doesnt pass any commands to the CLI apart from a ""

Ive never used these procedures in ages, and only after starting using the
GUI extension, am I discovering these wierd effects. Like I said, I dont
know if its AMOSPro, or the GUI Extension.

Can anyone here see what is wrong? When the program is compiled, it will
execute the script once, then it annuls itself, and wont close the window
as the system has locked due to the error. I really ned to send the output
of a program to a window though. Please help me!!!!

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett

P.S. Sorry for the length of this email!

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Steve Wood, who did
thus comment on Amiga Format and Amos on the night of 06-Oct-97:
-> Guys,

-> Since the rounds of slagging AF off for their slagging off of Amos, have
-> you seen the current mag?

-> Readers stuff has 8 entries, 6 of which are written in either Amos Classic
-> or Amos Pro, the other to in Blatz Biscuit, or whatever it is.  The star
-> prize was even awarded to a compendium of classic arcade games written in
-> Amos.

-> Weather they like it or not, Amos is here to Stay.

-> Live long and Prosper!

Yes, its the same every issue. If you look real closely, for the last few
months, there has been an AMOS game by our very own robert Benjamin. I
havent got the latest issue yet, I didnt have enough cash when I was in
Software Hut.

They just dont seem to understand that AMOS is the choice of language for
all beginner programmers, and they tend to stay with it more because of its
simplicity and power - which AF dont seem to be able to figure out yet.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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Anyone here know anything whatsoever about "The AMOS Learning Curve" in the
UK? Im curious if they are on the 'net or not, as I would like to get in
touch with them, rather than sending an SAE to the UK. Their adverts are
appearing in the amiga mags.

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Just thought I would let you know of my progress with the US Immigration
department (as it would affect the library seriously if I was sent home). I
went for my greencard interview this week, and after a hefty series of
questions, along the lines of "What colour toothbrush does your wife use"
and other such pointless questions, they let me have my greencard for at
least 2 years.

This is great news, as I dont have to worry about stopping service to all
us AMOS users, as back in UK I couldnt be online nearly as often as I am now.

For those who cant get on the FTP site, its a problem at ml.org, and they
say that the DYNDNS scheme will be working again tomorrow.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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Can anybody tell me what is wrong with this...

COM$="C:ViewTek Data:Pictures/Pic1"
AMOS To Back
Exec COM$
AMOS To Front

Instead of displaying the picture it asks me to select a picture.
Is it not possible to pass parameters to EXECed commands?

Note: I was only doing this in the absence of any AGA support.  Is there any 
sign of the extension yet??

Also, as an aside (not AMOS related!), has anyone managed (or even 
attempted) to install NetBSD?
It was on the cover CD of AF last month and again this month but I have 
followed the instructions to the letter and came a cropper when it says 
something like ' ensure LOADBSD command is in your path and execute it'. 
 Unfortunately the command did not appear to be included!  Any ideas?

P.S.  No luck with the printer as yet.  Will be getting some ink today so 
will try out the many suggestions tonight.
This command

Wayne.

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 05:55:37 -0400
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Guys,

Since the rounds of slagging AF off for their slagging off of Amos, have
you seen the current mag?

Readers stuff has 8 entries, 6 of which are written in either Amos Classic
or Amos Pro, the other to in Blatz Biscuit, or whatever it is.  The star
prize was even awarded to a compendium of classic arcade games written in
Amos.

Weather they like it or not, Amos is here to Stay.

Live long and Prosper!

Steve W
Interface Products Specialist (UK)
CompuServe (UK) Ltd

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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 11:17:52 -0500
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With a mighty cry of "You'll never get my taxes!", Cap'n Bubba arrives for
another update request.

If you read Amiga Report, you'll know that they are making the transition to
HTML format. This falls right into our hands. Along with the demos due on the
15th, can you all send a screen shot of your level? I'll compose a page as a
press release using all the screen shots. I'd like to include the intro anim
if it has been finished. I'll whip off a couple of Cap'n Bubba samples and all
that and also put it on my site for general view. With a bit of effort, we may
be able to get this monster ready for Christmas.
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Wayne O'Donnell, who
did thus comment on (no subject) on the night of 06-Oct-97:

-> Can anybody tell me what is wrong with this...

-> COM$="C:ViewTek Data:Pictures/Pic1"
-> AMOS To Back
-> Exec COM$
-> AMOS To Front

-> It was on the cover CD of AF last month and again this month but I have 
-> followed the instructions to the letter and came a cropper when it says 
-> something like ' ensure LOADBSD command is in your path and execute it'. 
->  Unfortunately the command did not appear to be included!  Any ideas?

Hmmm, the LOADBSD file could be a problem, but it should go around it. Try
running the exact command from a CLI window and se if it works. If the
problem still messes up, try to run SNOOPDOS to see what the problem is.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Mr. Giark To You, who
did thus comment on Re: AMOS Learning Curve? on the night of 06-Oct-97:

-> Never heard of it meself.

Yeah, its on page 107, top-right hand side of the September issue of Amiga
Format.

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From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>
To: Amos List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:26:25 -0000
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Hi everyone,

I  thought  I'd  send  you lot this email I received from the CU-List.
It's  some  guy slagging off Amos. I think we should all flame him for
his total ignorance of our fave language...

Read on...

>Tell me about it... I've got a Retina, which doesn't have a monitor
>throughput. If I run an AMOS program by accident, I'm forced to unplug
>the monitor, plug it into the RGB on the computer, quit the program
>and then switch back again. AMOS ranks up there alongside my all time
>hates. And most of the software written in it is slow, badly written
>and useless anyway.
>The flashing text command on its own makes death too good for it.
>--
>Matthew Garrett | cavan@enterprise.net | A3500/18/3.1/Retina | 

Hmmm...I think Mathew needs a good (snip)

We  can't  let  peeps get away with this. It's harming our reputation.
Stand  up  for Amos. Please. If a PC owner slags off your Amiga, do ya
just sit back and let 'em?

So  why  should we let peeps do this to Amos. Not any longer. I'm sick
of it. I bet this guy hasn't even tried programming (even in C64 basic
never mind Amos!)

Phuk! ASCII scripts would be too much for him!

I'd better stop before I get started ;

ttfn, Andy Gibson.

BTW  Subscribe to the cu-list. There's loads of emails each day. I got
around 80 today and still more to collect tonite!!!

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Hi everyone,

I was wondering if there's a way of finding the particular device that a
volume belongs to:

eg. Given "Workbench:" I want to find its particular device such as  "dh0:"

Its easy enough to find the volume name given the device by using the AMCAF
extension, but I need to do it the other way around.

Any help would be appreciated

 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cori Skagen

cskagen@ican.net

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Subject: SideShooterDemo#5  NOW AVAILABLE
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Hello Everyone,


Just a little note to say that I have sent Mr. Giark an update to my
SideShooter stage.

The SideShooterDemo#5 will be of particular interest to anyone who
has a SLOW system (less than A1200 w/FastRAM).

The program now detects such a system and recalibrates just about
everything, from Bubba's velocity, shot-speeds/fire-delay, enemy-
velocities as well as full recalibration of all enemy pattern-data,
scrolling-speed and so on.

Be warned, it will be TWICE as intense now as you will be 
playing at the same "virtual speed" as the rest of us.


For those who had no problem getting good, fast action (50-60fps),
the only major addition is the MidBossBattle. See if you can
"bring 'im down"...


Anyway, hope you all like the new demo...


   Take  care,
   GARFIELD


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From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>
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To: Mush <mushypd@redrose.net>, Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 06:58:05 +0100
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On 05-Ott-97, Mush wrote: AMOSPro or GUI Extension bug?

>Im having a problem with AMOSPro, and I dont know if it is the Pro editor
>itself, or something in the GUI extension that is affecting it.

or something in your program ;)


>   ' Open up a CLI window and grab the news!
>   Proc WOP[2,50,50,540,100,"Mailinglist Manager Output..."]
>   Proc WPR[2,"Attempting to Execute News Recovery script"+Chr$(10)+Chr$(10)]
>   Proc WEX[2,"SYS:REXXC/Rx Mailserv:REXX/NNTPTransfer"]
>   Wait 200
>   WCL[2]

>Now, the real problem is the fact that the routine is deleting the contents
>of the WEX[""] line, no matter where i run it from, and no matter what is
>in it, when I go back to source format, the line will read:
>
>   Proc WEX["
>
>
>Ive never used these procedures in ages, and only after starting using the
>GUI extension, am I discovering these wierd effects. Like I said, I dont
>know if its AMOSPro, or the GUI Extension.

Oh no.... the bug is in the WEX procedure, exactly here:


If Len(COM$)>0
      V=Varptr(COM$)
      For ZZ=0 To Len(COM$)-1 : Poke ZZ+V,0 : Next ZZ
End If 


This is a *very* bad idea. The FOR cycle is destroing your source code!
Poke directly a 0 into a amos string is dangeours... the explanation is a
bit boring. You can find it in the AmosPro manual... section 14.A.08


In order to fix the problem, remove this unuseful(???) lines from the
procedure.

-- 


Bye!


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From: "Johannes Rydh" <johannes@ibrium.se>
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 15:33:26 +0100
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Hello All,


I am working on a game in AMOS.

It's called SpaceWarsII (my brother wrote SpaceWarsI).

It is an strategy game, where you can order your troops around the systems. You fight with other ships, you land and fight men to men, you defend your bases with guard towers, you build more ships, you buy and sell fuel, men and ships and much more.

The game is about the good guys and the bad guys. The bad guys are the evil Empire and the good guys the people from Earth. Thousands of years have past since colonist from Earth took the step out in the space. 24 systems are now colonized. But then the evil Empire was created; and they set up bases on almost every planet. They ruled now completely all of the planets.
But then you came, and with anly one ship and some money, you destroyed the empire, and the peace in the galaxy was complete.
Many years has passed since that, and now the empire has rised again. From their mainbase at the planet Tyrus, they sent 20 big warships to crush the alliance. They almost succeded; only Earth survived this strike. The empire sent all thier power to destroy the opposition. But they failed, because of the extreme defence of Earth. All thier troops sent there was destroyed.
11 of the 20 warships is still existing and flying around and terror the people. The Empire have sent for 20 new warships.
Now it's your turn again. Defeat the Empire before the reinforcments arrive.
The whole world counts on you.

Does it sounds intresting?

Anyone wants screenshots or the half-ready code?

I'd like to have some thoughts and ideas about this game.
If anyone likes to help me with finishing it i would me more than happy to send you a copy.


---

Regards, Johannes Rydh


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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 11:11:29 -0500
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On 07-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>> With a bit of effort, we may be able to get this monster ready for
>> Christmas.
>   Sounds GREAT!!
>   Particulary like the part about targeting Christmas for the release of
>   CBATNAM!
>   I think that is a very reasonable time-frame for what will undoubtedly
>   go down in Amiga history as the debut of the GREATEST AMOS
>   game EVER!!  Not to mention the idea that it was made by 
>   individuals scattered around the globe who never had the fortune
>   to truly "work together" on the project...

I think we should be able to pull it together by then.

>   I updated the speed for people with SLOW machines, such as you
>   and... well, I guess just for you!! Haha.

I'm not the only one. Besides, my 1200 is in the mail and should get here
soon.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 16:52:38 -0000
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Hi everyone,

I  know  this  has  nowt  to  do with Amos, but I thought it was worth
spreading this fine bit of news...

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

On 07-Oct-97, Andrew Korn wrote:
>Anyone out there fancy doing game reviews for CU Amiga Magazine?

>You need to be enthusiastic
>You need to know good games
>You need to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of the Amiga games scene
>You need to have some knowledge of games on other platforms
>You need to be able to talk about the latest titles with the greatest
>authority.
>You need, above all else, to be a bloody good writer.
>It's not as easy as it looks.

>Don't answer to the cu-list, mail me direct, including a few lines on
>why you think you are right for the job, what hardware you have, any
>previous experience and most importantly...

>A 300 word sample review. 
>Without this we have no idea of if you are any good, so we aren't
>interested. 

>Here's hoping my mailbox doesn't actually break under the weight, 

>Andrew Korn, CU Amiga Magazine

andrew.korn@ecm.emap.com

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

There you have it guyz. Hope it's interested someone out there...

Andy Gibson.

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can anybody show me a little example on how the hunt command works?

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Here's an AMOS-bug for your knowledge.

On <whatever> Proc A,B[<Anything>],C,D

Calling procedure A will always work but if you try to call C or D you'll 
probably collect a guru. Even B[] becomes very unstable.
Solution: Call a dummy Procedure like this...

On <whatever> Proc A,DUMMY,C,D
.
.
Procedure DUMMY
  B[<Anything]
End Proc

No more gurus :-)

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On 08-Oct-97, Matt Ward wrote:
>Hi everyone, still there?

We're all still here, are you there....?

>In Amospro how do you enter arguments for something you want to
>execute?
>ie
>CLI:    viewtek df0:mypicture.iff
>AMP:    Exec "viewtek"   ?????????
>I`ve tried Commandline$, adding text in the quotes, reading the manual
>(no help!). Any ideas??

Maybe try this out....

A$="df0:c/viewtek"
b$="df0:pics/mypic"

Exec A$+Chr$(32)+B$+Chr$(10)+Chr$(0)

You  may  not  need Chr$(10), but Chr$(0) should maybe be there at the
end to NULL terminate the file. Try it different ways.

Chr$(32) simply = " " a space. Hope this helps ;)

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On 08-Oct-97, Jamie Bentley wrote:
> Hey guys...

> You may all love amos, but stop living in your own worlds,

That's fighting talk from where I come from (Glasgow!)

>I use AMOS because
>I can't use blitz. Blitz is faster, better, and superior in
>every way except its slightly harder to use.

If  you can use Amos, you can use Blitz. I bought V2.1 and hated it to
death!  Blitz is harder to use and the interface is crappy compared to
Amos Pro.

I  still  haven't written anything worth releasing using Blitz. I just
hate it. Amos Pro does everything I ever needed anyway :)

Why change a good thing...?

> Its also FULLY AGA compatible and fully OS compatible.

We know (sigh), but one day Amos might have AGA too (We can dream!)

As  far  as OS goes, the GUI Ext for Amos is the best I've seen. I had
no idea that it would be so quick and easy(!!!). It's much better than
IntOS and all the other `so called' Amos OS Extensions.

Check it out...

> (Just a note).

It's  just  a  note that pissed me off. Why bother mentioning Blitz at
all  on  the Amos list? If you hate it, fine, so do I and many others,
but  let's  not  start a `I love Amos and Hate Blitz' campaign! It's a
waste of space.

Each to their own `n' all that. 

I  don't  know  if  I  picked you up wrongly, but were you for Amos or
against  it?  What  with  your opening line....STOP LIVING IN YOUR OWN
WORLDS! What was that all about?

Were you on drugs when ya typed this? hehehe ;

I can see a war starting...

(as long as there's no pulling hair or scratching, I don't mind :^)

ttfn, Andy Gibbers

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On 07-Oct-97, Cori Skagen scribbled:
>Hi everyone,

Hello :)

>I was wondering if there's a way of finding the particular device
>that a volume belongs to:
>eg. Given "Workbench:" I want to find its particular device such as
> "dh0:"
>Its easy enough to find the volume name given the device by using
>the AMCAF extension, but I need to do it the other way around.
>Any help would be appreciated

Well, this does the opposite, but I'm sure you could fiddle about with
it and get the results and best of all, no extensions as suggested...

Cut  and save as AMOSFILE.asc and load into Amos using the Merge Ascii
option from the Project menu...


'
' *****************************
'  Get Volume Name From Device 
'    Without Any Extensions
'    bY Andy Gibson - AGAS.
'     Written during 1996
' *****************************
'
'
' If you have a disk in any drive and you want to kno what its name
' is (ie. Volume name) simply use the following code...
'
'  You can use any device name such as DF0: DF1: HD0: DH0: etc.
'
' Hope this helps someone....
'
' It's good for all sorts of things. I think there are various 
' extensions that can do this also, but I'm sure there is someone
' out there who asked for something like this a few days ago ;^) 
'
   PATH$="df1:" : Rem add a filename too if you want :)
   XAMOUNT=Instr(PATH$,":")
   SDISK$=Left$(PATH$,XAMOUNT)
   FILE$=PATH$-SDISK$
   Dir$=SDISK$ : OLD_DIR$=Dir$
   FINAL$=OLD_DIR$+FILE$
   Print FINAL$
'
' The printed result will be the name of the disk in DF1: in this
' example. It may be crude, but has never let me down. 
'
' One example to use this for would be when an app lets the user 
' enter some data to save. Most peeps would type.... 
' DF0:File, so now you can save to the correct disk for later
' accessing of their file from correct location. No more silly 
' requestors asking for you to PLEASE INSERT DF0: IN ANY DRIVE!!!
'
' Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions.
'
'

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Hi all,

It  occured  to me that some peeps still are not writing code for CD
users to input their name into the hiscore table with a joystick!

Let's  say  your  demo of your latest game is on a CU or AF CD and the
user is a proud CD ownner and your game requires them to input their
name vai the keyboard only!!!

They're phukked!

Same  applies  to  the QUIT mode of your game. Don't just tell them to
press Q on the keyboard!

Why  not  make  use  of the CD Joypad routine? I think MUSH may have
this lying around, if not I do and it works 100%.

I've  tested  it  with my Competition Pro CD pad and it works like a
dream.

For those of you who don't have a CD pad and don't know where to get
one, look at Amiga Format Issue 103 on page 55.

GoldenImage (UK) Ltd sell them for 14.00  -  a bargain. Don't know if
it's Compitition Pro or original CD pad though! Still, it's the only
ad I've seen in a long time which mentions the cd pad.

call...0181 900 9291

or

http://www.reserve.co.uk/gold

Are you reading this Ant???

ttfn Andy Gee!

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Johannes Rydh, who did
thus comment on New AMOS game on the night of 07-Oct-97:

When you get some kind of preview/demo done, could you send it to me for
inclusion
in my library. Thanks.

The first version of the game, is this done in AMOS also, and is there a
playable version
of this game that can be placed in the library?

Take care

Mush

-> Hello All,


-> I am working on a game in AMOS.

-> It's called SpaceWarsII (my brother wrote SpaceWarsI).

-> It is an strategy game, where you can order your troops around the systems.
-> You fight with other ships, you land and fight men to men, you defend your
-> bases with guard towers, you build more ships, you buy and sell fuel, men
and
-> ships and much more.

-> The game is about the good guys and the bad guys. The bad guys are the evil
-> Empire and the good guys the people from Earth. Thousands of years have
past
-> since colonist from Earth took the step out in the space. 24 systems are
now
-> colonized. But then the evil Empire was created; and they set up bases on
-> almost every planet. They ruled now completely all of the planets.
-> But then you came, and with anly one ship and some money, you destroyed the
-> empire, and the peace in the galaxy was complete.
-> Many years has passed since that, and now the empire has rised again. From
-> their mainbase at the planet Tyrus, they sent 20 big warships to crush the
-> alliance. They almost succeded; only Earth survived this strike. The empire
-> sent all thier power to destroy the opposition. But they failed, because of
-> the extreme defence of Earth. All thier troops sent there was destroyed.
-> 11 of the 20 warships is still existing and flying around and terror the
-> people. The Empire have sent for 20 new warships.
-> Now it's your turn again. Defeat the Empire before the reinforcments
arrive.
-> The whole world counts on you.

-> Does it sounds intresting?

-> Anyone wants screenshots or the half-ready code?

-> I'd like to have some thoughts and ideas about this game.
-> If anyone likes to help me with finishing it i would me more than happy to
-> send you a copy.


-> ---

-> Regards, Johannes Rydh


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 Hey guys...

 You may all love amos, but stop living in your own worlds, I use AMOS because I can't use blitz. Blitz is faster, better, and superior in every way except its slightly harder to use.

 Its also FULLY AGA compatible and fully OS compatible.

 (Just a note).

 *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS ***

 JAMIE BENTLEY

 =B^)


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Oct  8 13:38:02 1997
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From: Matt Ward <mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie>
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Hi everyone, still there?
Im back at uni after a very unproductive summer, but hey someone has
to be a bum (tough job!)
I hope the list is still alive. 
One tiny question to keep you thinking...

In Amospro how do you enter arguments for something you want to
execute?
ie
CLI:    viewtek df0:mypicture.iff
AMP:    Exec "viewtek"   ?????????

I`ve tried Commandline$, adding text in the quotes, reading the manual
(no help!). Any ideas??

If anyone has any ideas can you send them to me here as I only
requested joining the list today, so I'm not on it yet.

Keep Amosing!!

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From: "SIMONC%MARS.decnet"@mcs.co.uk (Simon Champion - simonc@mcs.co.uk)
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For anyone who's interested, my web page now has one or two programs
to download from the projects page. Most of my projects are Amos based.
There's not too many to download yet, but I'm planning to get more
there "real soon now".

Meanwhile, you're welcome to see what I've got already. Browse to
     http://village.vossnet.co.uk/c/champion


And now the real reason I'm mentioning it again....

The page was listed on the Amiga Web Directory on the 30th September.
Before the link, my hit counter was at just over 200. In the week since
the link, it has shot up to over 1000.  I'm not a great fan of hit
counters, but nonetheless I'm quite impressed  :-)


See ya'll.


     SimonC.

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From: John Bintz <uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Amos vs Blitz
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Please don't start.  I hate these pointless mails as much as everyone 
else does.  I can GUARATEE that, because of this message, I will get at 
least fifty mails with the title "Blitz sucks, Amos rules" or something 
like that.  If youall want to have a little skirmish, please do it 
elsewhere, like on IRC.  I don't need the extra mail..  Thanks.

On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Jamie Bentley wrote:

>  Hey guys...
> 
>  You may all love amos, but stop living in your own worlds, I use AMOS because I can't use blitz. Blitz is faster, better, and superior in every way except its slightly harder to use.
> 
>  Its also FULLY AGA compatible and fully OS compatible.
> 
>  (Just a note).
> 
>  *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS ***
> 
>  JAMIE BENTLEY
> 
>  =B^)
> 
> 

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From: John Bintz <uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca>
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Pretty soon, I'm going to finish the storyline to my new RPG, which means 
I'll need people to do backgrounbd work, character animation, music, 
sound effects, and script programming.  If you want a copy of the script 
when its done, write me.  Thanks!


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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 10:02:29 -0500
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Amiga Format #102
Page 56

SoloTrek II
By C. Edward Stewart and Ryan M. Gibb

That would be me. Three screen shots!

You can check out this game on AmiNet at:

game/think/FBN-SoII.lha
game/think/FBN-SFix.lha

Funny, they slag AMOS, then review an amos game. BTW, this was an unsolicited
review, as far as I am concerned.
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>
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Subject: Re: Amos vs Blitz
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:51:40 -0400
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>  Hey guys...

   Hello "sniper"...


> You may all love amos, but stop living in your own worlds, I use AMOS
> because I can't use blitz. Blitz is faster, better, and superior in every
> way except its slightly harder to use.

   First, a question: IF you can't use Blitz, how do you know it is faster,
   better, and superior in every way except being slightly harder to use.
   Who told you this??


   Now, I don't know about the rest of the people on this list but, I 
   use BLITZ as much or more than I use AMOS. In fact, I have two
   projects in development in it right now.

   So, being that I am well-experienced in both languages, I think I
   can be reasonably objective. 

   Blitz does produce much faster code, it's graphic's routines are
   very fast (yes, faster than the power bobs extension based on the
   PB-demo I executed) and it does produce smaller, more optimized
   executables.

   I think it provides excellent support for true, professional software
   development.

   Personally, I don't see what's so hard about it. I converted a simple
   demo from AMOS to BLITZ, the same day I received BB...


   Anyway, AMOS is an incredibly accessable language. It allows a
   developer to quickly have something "up n' running" (BLITZ allows
   this too but, AMOS develop is even faster).

   A GOOD programmer can use AMOS and run rings around an
   average programmer using BLITZ.  Of course, if the GOOD 
   programmer were using BB, then he'd probably be running rings
   around Assembler programmer's...

   The point is, I use both as they seem so similiar to me and actually
   I enjoy AMOS programming just as much as BB programming as
   AMOS really pushes me.  In my SideShooter demo, I wouldn't
   think much of it to have it running at 50/60fps if I wrote it in BLITZ,
   but developing it in AMOS, I know that if I can obtain 50/60fps
   than I can feel that I have really accomplished something.
   
   Anyway, I could go on all day about development-issues, design
   theories and language comparisons but, I really don't have the time
   to write it all and most people don't have the time to read all my
   babbling so, in summary let me say this:

   Use AMOS, if you enjoy using AMOS. Don't blame AMOS for
   slow, bulky programs, blame yourself.

   If you want to use BLITZ, use it. It is also an excellent programming
   language. Hey, if you need some help let me know.

   So, use BB, don't tell people how great it is. If you really believe
   it is far superior then DEVELOP something in it that will PROVE
   beyond a shadow of a doubt that BB is FAR SUPERIOR.

   Until you have done that, it's best not to say such things...


   HEY AMOS-LIST GUYS:

   I know you are thinking, this Garfield never learns but, I felt I
   should speak out as I seem to be about the only person who
   actually uses both languages and feels that to like the one does
   not mean you hate the other...


      Take  care,
      GARFIELD



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I'll have a look at yer game.
If my brother likes it so far he may write some music for it.
 
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     I use Amos because I haven't the time to learn Blitz. (or anythign 
     else for that matter)  But I wouldn't knock Amos as it does everything 
     I want it to.

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On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote:

>      
>      I use Amos because I haven't the time to learn Blitz. (or anythign 
>      else for that matter)  But I wouldn't knock Amos as it does everything 
>      I want it to.
> 

Well I'm sorta new to the Amos list.  Been lurking for a couple of weeks.
I used to program in AMOS alot.  I am a EE student and have seen assemble,
C, Java, pascal, ...  I can say that I am nowhere fluent in any of them
anymore.  I don't think I am as ood in AMOS as I was a few years ago
either.  

I quickly found the limitations of the language.  There was many things I
found could not be done in AMOS.  After my big Hd crash I did not
reinstall it.  I had a couple of nice games in developmetn using AMOS, but
with the code gone and thinking of restarting I truly am going to go with
a C.  AMOS is good, but far from perfect.  I can say that you can do a
whole lot more with it in a shorter amount of time and produce some good
programs.  It is not the language that needs to be tested it is the
programmer.  In other words, the programmer makes the difference.  If the
language does everything you need in a fast an efficient manner and you
program to your potetial then it truly doesn't matter what you program in.
You make the difference, release quality software using AMOS and it ill
get the respect it deserves, but mostly you will get your respect you
deserve.

If someone knocks on your programming language, instead of trash tlking
them, show them the power of your language, and rlease some good programs
to make them take notice.  They will shut up eventually or they will be
forgotten as they can't program anyway.

Just my two cents.

Shawn


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On 08-Oct-97, Mush scribbled:
>The box of compilers I ordered arrived this afternoon.
>I shall release the exact prices within the next 2 days or so.
>Mush

Nice  one m8. Hope sales go well for you. Any news on getting Amos Pro
though?  I  think  I sent a message to you before on this subject. Why
not  do  away  with a printed manual? On disk Amigaguide would suffice
most peeps if it keeps costs down.

I  know,  I know, you can't beat the printed manual though. I agree, I
couldn't  do  without  my Amos Pro manual at times, but new Amos users
would maybe be happy with on disk text.

I  don't  hold out much luck for you getting Europress to release Amos
Pro  though!  Well, maybe if the price is right. They would want a few
bucks though, that's for sure.

I  can't  remember the figure Steve Bye mentioned to me when he tried.
But it was far too much :(

Anyway,  wasn't there a rumour sometime back about Europress releasing
Amos Pro as PD or even the code for the language so peeps could update
it etc? Hmmmm....

cya ;)


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The box of compilers I ordered arrived this afternoon. I shall release the
exact prices within the next 2 days or so.

Mush

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Andy Gibson, who did
thus comment on CD32 Pads on the night of 08-Oct-97:

-> Why  not  make  use  of the CD Joypad routine? I think MUSH may have
-> this lying around, if not I do and it works 100%.

Yup, i have it, and here it is. You'll need LOWLEVEL.LIBRARY in your LIBS:
drawer!!

'
'    CD32 Joypad 
'
'    (c) K.Hill, Jan 1996
'        
'
'structures begin
'
'Const JPF_BUTTON_FORWARD=$80000 
'Const JPF_LEFT  = 2 
'Const JPF_JOY_UP  = 8   
'Const JPF_BUTTON_REVERSE  =  $40000 
'Const JPF_DOWN  = 4   
'Const JPF_JOY_RIGHT  = 1    
'Const JPF_JOY_LEFT  = 2 
'Const JPF_BUTTON_GREEN  =  $100000  
'Const JPF_BUTTON_YELLOW  =  $200000 
'Const JPF_JOY_DOWN  = 4 
'Const JPF_BUTTON_BLUE  =  $800000 
'Const JPF_UP  = 8 
'Const JPF_BUTTON_PLAY  =  $20000  
'Const JPF_BTN1  =  $800000  
'Const JPF_BTN2  =  $400000  
'Const JPF_BTN3  =  $200000  
'Const JPF_BTN4  =  $100000  
'Const JPF_BTN5  =  $80000 
'Const JPF_RIGHT  = 1  
'Const JPF_BTN6  =  $40000 
'Const JPF_BTN7  =  $20000 
'Const JPF_BUTTON_RED  =  $400000  
'
'Structures Constants

Global __JPF_BUTTON_FORWARD,__JPF_LEFT,__JPF_JOY_UP
__JPF_BUTTON_FORWARD=524288 : __JPF_LEFT=2 : __JPF_JOY_UP=8
Global __JPF_BUTTON_REVERSE,__JPF_DOWN,__JPF_JOY_RIGHT
__JPF_BUTTON_REVERSE=262144 : __JPF_DOWN=4 : __JPF_JOY_RIGHT=1
Global __JPF_JOY_LEFT,__JPF_BUTTON_GREEN,__JPF_BUTTON_YELLOW
__JPF_JOY_LEFT=2 : __JPF_BUTTON_GREEN=1048576 : __JPF_BUTTON_YELLOW=2097152
Global __JPF_JOY_DOWN,__JPF_BUTTON_BLUE,__JPF_UP
__JPF_JOY_DOWN=4 : __JPF_BUTTON_BLUE=8388608 : __JPF_UP=8
Global __JPF_BUTTON_PLAY,__JPF_BTN1,__JPF_BTN2
__JPF_BUTTON_PLAY=131072 : __JPF_BTN1=8388608 : __JPF_BTN2=4194304
Global __JPF_BTN3,__JPF_BTN4,__JPF_BTN5,__JPF_RIGHT
__JPF_BTN3=2097152 : __JPF_BTN4=1048576 : __JPF_BTN5=524288 : __JPF_RIGHT=1
Global __JPF_BTN6,__JPF_BTN7,__JPF_BUTTON_RED
__JPF_BTN6=262144 : __JPF_BTN7=131072 : __JPF_BUTTON_RED=4194304

'structures end
Lib Open 1,"lowlevel.library",40

Dreg(0)=1
While 1
   Z=Lib Call(1,-30)
   If Z and __JPF_BUTTON_BLUE Then Print "Blue"
   If Z and __JPF_BUTTON_RED Then Print "Red"
   If Z and __JPF_BUTTON_GREEN Then Print "Green"
   If Z and __JPF_BUTTON_YELLOW Then Print "Yellow"
   If Z and __JPF_BUTTON_PLAY Then Print "Play"
   If Z and __JPF_BUTTON_FORWARD Then Print "FF"
   If Z and __JPF_BUTTON_REVERSE Then Print "Rew"
   If Z and __JPF_JOY_DOWN Then Print "Down"
   If Z and __JPF_JOY_UP Then Print "Up"
   If Z and __JPF_JOY_LEFT Then Print "Left"
   If Z and __JPF_JOY_RIGHT Then Print "Right"
Wend 


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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Matt Ward, who did thus
comment on Hi again on the night of 08-Oct-97:

-> In Amospro how do you enter arguments for something you want to
-> execute?
-> ie
-> CLI:    viewtek df0:mypicture.iff
-> AMP:    Exec "viewtek"   ?????????

Simple. Exec "Viewtek DF0:Pic"

-> I`ve tried Commandline$, adding text in the quotes, reading the manual
-> (no help!). Any ideas??

A$=Command Line$ : Rem First line of program

Exec A$
Exec "C:Viewtek "+a$
Print A$
Wait Key
End

Hope the above answers were the ones you were looking for!!

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Could someone please help this gentleman with his problem, as I am completely
stumped. Thanks.

In reply to Alex Borodin who scribbled this rubbish on 09-Oct-97
Mush wrote:


> -> This version of AMOSPro - is it exactly the same as the version sold
> -> before Commodore went bust?
> 
> I think so, yes.My supplier cant find anyone to reproduce the manual at a
> low cost just yet, so wont sell it to me. I have the compiler and V2.00
> updater disk.

OK..
 
> -> The reason I ask is that I have found that there is some incomptability
> -> between KS3.1 and AMOSPro code which causes it to crash after about
> -> 5 minutes of perfect running. I don't get the same problem under KS3.0
> -> and I have been unable to trace the bug. At first I thought it may
> -> have been caused by the system clock tick reader because that is the
> -> only OS specific code which could possible exist in my code, but
> -> that doesn't seem to be the problem. I think the problem lies
> -> in the way AMOSPro is written.
> 
> -> Please advise whether you know anything about this.
> 
> Without seeing the code which causes the bug, I really cant be of much
> help. Is the problem still there after the program has been compiled?

Yes. It appears while running in interpreted mode, and in the compiled
software. I've been getting around it by buying second hand Amigas
with KS3.0 ROMS in them but that's crazy because at the rate they fail,
(hard drives refusing to boot, video chips getting fried occasionally,
floppy drives getting stuffed by dust) we aren't going to be able to
sustain 
our system for too much longer. Tough luck for passengers, they'll just
have
to take pot luck to get to their train on time.

I am using AMAL to scroll screens up and down, and left and right. I am
also using the serial port functions. What I really need to know is what
hardware or firmware - specific code exists within AMOS, and then
I need to find out what is actually different between KS3.0 and KS3.1 so
I can track the problem down and maybe avoid it in future.

Unfortunately, I am legally unable to give you my code (as much as I
would
like to) because it belongs to Queensland Rail.

Regards,

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Yawn.... Im sick of these stoopid arguments.

The GUI extension offers just as much, if not more power, than the Blitz
side of things. I personally dont like blitz, but have used it in the past
to do small programs etc. and was even working with Paul Burkey to figure
out TCP in his Foundation game, when I met up with him for a weekend last
april.

All I say is each to their own, and the programmer can certainly improve
the speed of his/her programs thanks to extensions etc.

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Figured we needed a "worthy" message posted on this list...


Mr. Giark,

Are you insane?  I just read the script for CBATNAM (which is
why I am obviously feeling a bit insane) and am thinking
WHO is going to do all that speech?  WHO is doing all those
animations??  Are we targeting CD-ROM???

Haha... the script was good reading though. You have a good sense
of humor (well, when you're not bashing me about that horrible
five-letter word)...


Anyway, if you need a voice for some of the bad-guys or
whatever, let me know and I'll be glad to record some of the 
speech-clips.

I'm sure it will come across a bit better if we actually use
different people for the different voices rather than you trying to
change your own voice for each part... :-)


Speaking of speech, KEITH, do you need any speech-samples? 
I know you had a few ideas a month back or so. If you still need
them or want some new ones then just let me know.

Actually, I'm feeling very generous so, if anyone needs some
speech for their games or whatever, just send me a list and I'll
see what I can do (I'm not guaranteeing anything)...


There was something else I was curious about but, can't seem
to remember what it was... hmmm... oh yes, of course...
ADAM, how is that wicked 3d-rendering engine and stage
of your's coming along?

I know you have probably been asked a dozen times during
my "absence" so, I apologize for asking you again (if you didn't
have to stop and reply to these messages, you probably could
have finished it long ago, right? )


Also, I haven't received any feed-back on the latest SideShooter
demo... does that mean that no one has tried it?

I am particularly interested in hearing from those people using
unaccelerated A500s and such who thought the previous demos
were so sloooooooooow...


   Take  care,
   GARFIELD


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Scott Douglas Matott wrote:
> 
> Are you sure you need this many frame of aniomation, check
> out the asteroids clone that came with Amos 1.3, anyone
> rember it? it had very cool looking asteroids that were bobs
> and I think they used less than 10 frames each.

I took a look at Amosteroids and the asteroids' bob images and AMAL code
are definately useable with minor changes.

Would it be alright to use these?  I mean, someone called P. J. Hickman
has their name to them.  Does anyone know this person?

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On 08-Oct-97, Andy Gibson wrote:
>It  occured  to me that some peeps still are not writing code for CD
>users to input their name into the hiscore table with a joystick!

Nonsense. CBATNAM has cd32 text input support. You can also find my cd32
procedures that do all cd32pad stuff. I think Mush has it.

Well met and godspeed,
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On 09-Oct-97, Mush wrote:
>'    CD32 Joypad 
>'
>'    (c) K.Hill, Jan 1996
>'        

<SNIP>

That, Andy, is the hard way. I do wish people would stop pushing that version.
It grabs a lot of variable space na dis not the easiest to figure out at
times. I'll send my set of procedures to you soon so you can put them on your
site.

Eleven variables indeed!

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 09-Oct-97, Mush wrote:
>Yawn.... Im sick of these stoopid arguments.

Me, too. I will just say that I have dled many a blitz program and only have
ever seen one actually RUN. I've also dled many an amos program, the majority
of which DO run. As far as I'm concerned, Blitz is no good, or all blitz
programmers are idiots. Take your pick.

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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
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On 09-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>Mr. Giark,
>Are you insane?

It depends on who you ask.

>  I just read the script for CBATNAM (which is
>why I am obviously feeling a bit insane) and am thinking
>WHO is going to do all that speech?

The speech is done and is on the page.

>  WHO is doing all those
>animations?

Pete has a `tame artist' that he has tied to a touchtablet and is forcing to
go without food until the anims are done.

> Are we targeting CD-ROM???

We need a finished game before we target anything.

>Haha... the script was good reading though. You have a good sense
>of humor (well, when you're not bashing me about that horrible
>five-letter word)...

Bashing you about a five letter word? I'm lost now.

>Anyway, if you need a voice for some of the bad-guys or
>whatever, let me know and I'll be glad to record some of the 
>speech-clips.

Like I said, they are done already. Pete or Mush suggested listening to the
samples while you read the script. I must admit, Shawna still cracks me up
everytime.

"Help me, Cap'n Bubba"

"Ah, my beloved Shawna!"

>I'm sure it will come across a bit better if we actually use
>different people for the different voices rather than you trying to
>change your own voice for each part... :-)

Listen to the samples first.

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                      Giark
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On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Jamie Bentley wrote:

>  Hey guys...
> 
>  You may all love amos, but stop living in your own worlds, I use AMOS because
> I can't use blitz. Blitz is faster, better, and superior in every way except
> its slightly harder to use. 
> 
>  Its also FULLY AGA compatible and fully OS compatible.
> 
>  (Just a note).
> 
>  *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS ***
> 
>  JAMIE BENTLEY
> 
>  =B^)
> 
If Blitz is so OS compatible why do PAL games like Zombies, and Screech etc
totally fuck up the screen graphics when you run them in NTSC OS compatible
my fucking ass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Eric Hyland
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> If Blitz is so OS compatible why do PAL games like Zombies, and
> Screech etc totally fuck up the screen graphics when you run them in
> NTSC. 

   Most of these games aren't written in AMIGA-mode (the OS-compatible
   side) but, are using the Display libraries in BLITZ mode.

   You will have problems with any PAL-only games regardless of the
   language. I have seen MANY AMOS, BLITZ as well as Assembler
   games/demos which either have garbled NTSC-displays, important
   data displayed off the visible screen, lock-ups due to the slightly
   faster NTSC video-synch, etc.  This was a common problem with
   commercial (most in Assembler I assume) games a few years back.
   I don't know how many times I had garbled screens or lock-ups.


   The solution I came up with is simple: Simply Boot your Amiga in
   PAL-mode then run the game/demo and it will work fine. Even now,
   I simply expect most games will require PAL-mode and don't even
   attempt to use them in NTSC.


   This is a real problem though and I hope more authors will cater to
   both PAL and NTSC users. It's very simple to add this kind of support
   and it makes it SO much easier on the end-user...

   For instance, the SideShooter demo automatically resizes the display 
   depending on whether you're using a PAL or NTSC Amiga. Of course,
   I'll probably have to change it for the final release as I believe we
   are suppose to be using a fixed-size display 234 pixels high
   (Mr. Giark?).


      Take  care,
      GARFIELD


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From: Anthony Sherratt <SHEZZOR@mail.talk-101.com>
To: AMOS MAILING LIST <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:19:19 +0500
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On 08-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>   Blitz does produce much faster code, it's graphic's routines are
>   very fast (yes, faster than the power bobs extension based on the
>   PB-demo I executed) and it does produce smaller, more optimized
>   executables.

I think your wrong about one thing here, the graphic routines in BLITZ
are SLOWER than the ones in AMOS. Dont get me wrong the complied code
is far faster then AMOS (this is what courses the speed difference).

I would just like to put in my 2 pence worth, I know people are going
to get peed off with the argument but this is what you get for 
mentioning BLITZ on the AMOS List :)

The main reason most people dislike BLITZ when converting (or trying to)
from AMOS is that its a big drop in the interface and how the system 
works compared to AMOS.

AMOS in itself has everything up and running ready for the user to get
straight into testing his (rarely her) programming, where as BLITZ needs
you doto this for it. Most people think this system is shyte but I 
put it this way, it gives you more freedom of what you want to archive.

AMOS`s interface and system is alot more friendly making it ideal for
the beginner. With it having a Montior and Direct mode, BLITZ`s 
debugger doesnt come near. Although its debugger is more of a ASM 
monitor.

At least BLITZ it still being worked on (Red When Excited) and theres 
even a rumor of BLITZ 3. This is another point which makes BLITZ more
of a choice than AMOS. I know people are still producing extensions and
I say `go for it`, this will make AMOS go as far as it can but this 
itself still cant compete with BLITZ`s producers. Unless someone wants
to make a AMOSPro Plus or sumot :)

Dont get me wrong I love AMOS and still program in it even if its just
for testing purposes(I wouldnt be on the list otherwise). BLITZ doesnt
come near to the ease of use and the time it takes to do the job. And
anyone who says converting code from one to the other is hard is
nonsence. I do it all the time, testing code in AMOS and then converting
it BLITZ for the speed.

So my final conclusion is that it all depends on what you want to 
program and archive. Anybody saying `so-and-so language is crap` or
`that proggy is crap because it was programmed in so-and-so` is 
aload of crap in itself. Every proggy made on this great machine all
depends on the programmer. Anyone can make a great proggy in what ever
language they are com with.

Anthony Sherratt

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To: Matt Ward <mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie>,
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On 08-Oct-97, Matt Ward wrote:
>Hi everyone, still there?

Hi Matt

>In Amospro how do you enter arguments for something you want to
>execute?
>ie
>CLI:    viewtek df0:mypicture.iff
>AMP:    Exec "viewtek"   ?????????

I had the same problem a few months ago. It seems you are better off
using the full path for executing. Like :

  Exec "c:ViewTek Work:pics/test.iff"

>I`ve tried Commandline$, adding text in the quotes, reading the manual
>(no help!). Any ideas??

'
' TEST STRING
'
A$="c:viewtek dh0:pics/test.iff"
'
' Search for space 
'
For POS=0 To Len(A$)
    If Mid$(A$,POS,1)=Chr$(32) Then Exit 
Next POS
'
' Sort out command line  
'
COMMAND$=Left$(A$,POS-1)
PAR$=Mid$(A$,POS+1,Len(A$)-POS)
'
' Print Results
'
Print "Command: ";COMMAND$
Print "Parameter: ";PAR$

>Keep Amosing!!

I will :)

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Will AMOS V1.2 work on a A4000/040 or A1200/030
Easy AMOS will but I can't install v1.2.
I tried getting theAMOS 136.lha file but IBrowse had problems (twice) with
that site.
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On 07-Oct-97, MtL ManUtd wrote:
>can anybody show me a little example on how the hunt command works?

I've been a bit distracted lately, but I found a short example
that might be useful as an example. I have not seen any other
responses, but if you already have the hang of HUNTing, just
smack the old delete button.

The following code strips out the less than usefull elements
of an 8SVX file, correcting several common problems in the
process, and rewrites it. The PSVX routine uses HUNT to locate
the header and body chunks of the just processed file to play
it. Note that the PSVX routine knows it has been passed a
bank with a good iff 8svx form, so it doesn't error check.

Hope this helps, (or at least doesnt get in your way)
-Richard

' signatures for sample files
Global SIGFORM,SIG8SVX,SIGVHDR,SIGBODY
LCONST["FORM"] : SIGFORM=Param
LCONST["8SVX"] : SIG8SVX=Param
LCONST["VHDR"] : SIGVHDR=Param
LCONST["BODY"] : SIGBODY=Param
' audio fade variables 
B$=Fsel$("**")
If B$="" Then Stop 
Open In 1,B$
X=Lof(1)+42
Close 1
Reserve As Work 10,X
Reserve As Work 11,X
'
STRIPSVX[B$]
'
Procedure STRIPSVX[N$]
   'Follow I,L,J,K
   A$=" " : A$=A$+A$+A$+A$
   I=Start(10)
   NI=Start(11)
   Bload N$,Start(10)
   If Leek(I)=SIGFORM and Leek(I+8)=SIG8SVX
      Print "FORM ";
      Add I,4
      L=Leek(I)
      Print " Len ";L;" ";
      Add I,4
      Copy Start(10),Start(10)+12 To NI : Add NI,12
      For J=1 To 4 : Print Chr$(Peek(I)); : Add I,1 : Next J : Print 
      T=Start(10)+L
      While I<T
         If Leek(I)=SIGVHDR or Leek(I)=SIGBODY
            Print "rewriting . . . ";
            CL=Leek(I+4)+8
            Copy I,I+CL To NI
            If(CL mod 2)=1 : Inc CL : End If 
            NI=NI+CL
         Else 
            Print "skipping . . .  ";
         End If 
         Print "Chunk ";
         For J=1 To 4 : Print Chr$(Peek(I)); : Add I,1 : Next J
         K=Leek(I)
         Print " Len ";K
         Add K,4
         If(K mod 2)=1 : Inc K : End If 
         Add I,K
      Wend 
      Loke Start(11)+4,NI-Start(11)-8
      PSVX
      Bsave N$,Start(11) To NI
   Else 
      Print "Not an IFF FORM"
   End If 
End Proc
'
Procedure LCONST[A$]
   A=Leek(Varptr(A$))
End Proc[A]
'
Procedure PSVX
   Voice %111
   Volume %1000,63
   If Leek(Start(11))=SIGFORM and Leek(Start(11)+8)=SIG8SVX
      SBEG=Hunt(Start(11) To Start(11)+64,"VHDR")
      SLEN=Leek(SBEG+8)+Leek(SBEG+12)
      SRATE=Deek(SBEG+20)
      SBEG=Hunt(SBEG To SBEG+512,"BODY")
      SBEG=SBEG+8
      Sam Raw %1000,SBEG,SLEN,SRATE
   End If 
End Proc
'



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On 09-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>   For instance, the SideShooter demo automatically resizes the display 
>   depending on whether you're using a PAL or NTSC Amiga. Of course,
>   I'll probably have to change it for the final release as I believe we
>   are suppose to be using a fixed-size display 234 pixels high
>   (Mr. Giark?).

Correct. The menu program (have you looked at it?) detects your amiga type,
processor type, etc. and sets variables accordingly. It should work on any
amiga, though it will need at least 1Meg CHIP and 1Meg FAST to run properly.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 09-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>Mr. Giark,
>Are you insane?

It depends on who you ask.

>  I just read the script for CBATNAM (which is
>why I am obviously feeling a bit insane) and am thinking
>WHO is going to do all that speech?

The speech is done and is on the page.

>  WHO is doing all those
>animations?

Pete has a `tame artist' that he has tied to a touchtablet and is forcing to
go without food until the anims are done.

> Are we targeting CD-ROM???

We need a finished game before we target anything.

>Haha... the script was good reading though. You have a good sense
>of humor (well, when you're not bashing me about that horrible
>five-letter word)...

Bashing you about a five letter word? I'm lost now.

>Anyway, if you need a voice for some of the bad-guys or
>whatever, let me know and I'll be glad to record some of the 
>speech-clips.

Like I said, they are done already. Pete or Mush suggested listening to the
samples while you read the script. I must admit, Shawna still cracks me up
everytime.

"Help me, Cap'n Bubba"

"Ah, my beloved Shawna!"

>I'm sure it will come across a bit better if we actually use
>different people for the different voices rather than you trying to
>change your own voice for each part... :-)

Listen to the samples first.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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Hello Amos users...

As you all know, we from Jolly are working (hard) on the Jade
extension.
I am looking for 2 betatesters.
If you are interested, send email to: cloak@xs4all.nl
i will then send you a list of terms, and if you agree with them,
i will send you the beta archive.
If you want to betatest Jade, please send some examples of your work,
so i can see if you are qualified for testing.
If you are a real help to us, you will get a registered version for free!

Greetings, Cloak/Jolly - The Jade Developers Team.


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Subj:	Screen Size

Declan wrote...
     
>     What is the largest Amos screen I can display on my tv screen?  Is it 
>     the 640 x 512 Hi-Res screen?  I am trying to do a front panel for a 
>     program and I can't seem to fit it all into the screen without it 
>     looking crammed.  I am using the smallest font I have which is DPaint 
>     font size 5 and it still looks pretty cluttered.
     

Hmmmm....

Sounds to me like a good candidate for splitting into seperate screens.
I don't know what options you're trying to set up, but isn't there a
logical way to split them up, so that each set of options is available
from the main screen or window via a button?

If you've got so many options on screen that they look cramped at 640x512
and with the smallest type face, they'd surely be better off seperated
out a little.

To answer your actual question, 640x512 is standard PAL Hires-Laced. You
might get a little more with overscan.  But in all honesty, if you're
looking at a screen that size on a TV, using a 5-point font, you'll get
major eyestrain.


That's all....


     SimonC.

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>>   For instance, the SideShooter demo automatically resizes the display 
>>   depending on whether you're using a PAL or NTSC Amiga. Of course,
>>   I'll probably have to change it for the final release as I believe we
>>   are suppose to be using a fixed-size display 234 pixels high
>>   (Mr. Giark?).
 
   > Correct. The menu program (have you looked at it?) detects your amiga
   > type, processor type, etc. and sets variables accordingly. It should
   > work on any amiga, though it will need at least 1Meg CHIP and 1Meg
   > FAST to run properly.

      Yes, I had a look at the excellent menu executable. It's a very nice
      piece of work...

      I realize that I need to access the Config file to extract the user's
      desired configuration, but they can still center that 234-pixel box
      and I can use that data to center my variable-size displays. 

      I'm currently using a 225-pixel display for NTSC users and a
      265-pixel display for PAL-users, which is why NTSC-mode has a
      greater amount of vertical-scrolling compared to the tiny vertical
      scroll area on PAL-machines.

      The reason I'm using 225-pixels for the NTSC display is because I
      know for a fact that some televisions can only display 225 lines in
      NTSC.  My brother's television is one of them...

      Anyway, this really shouldn't matter as I will center everything
      based around the data the user has stored in the Config file, which 
      means everything should work out fine in the end, correct?


         Take  care,
         GARFIELD  


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> The speech is done and is on the page.

   Yes, I've just downloaded the archive and listened to the samples...


>> Are we targeting CD-ROM???
   > We need a finished game before we target anything.

      Yes, I know you want this project completed as soon as possible.

      Anyway, I just thought it was kind of interesting to see that the
      final project (WHEN COMPLETED) will probably be well over 5MB...


> Like I said, they are done already. Pete or Mush suggested listening to
> the samples while you read the script. I must admit, Shawna still cracks
> me up everytime.
> Listen to the samples first.

   Well, I've ported the samples (all 2MB) over to my Amiga... You did a
   great job.  They sound very unique as game-sounds go, sort of
   cartoon-inspired...


      Take care,
      GARFIELD


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On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, Garfield Benjamin wrote:

> 
> > If Blitz is so OS compatible why do PAL games like Zombies, and
> > Screech etc totally fuck up the screen graphics when you run them in
> > NTSC. 
> 
>    Most of these games aren't written in AMIGA-mode (the OS-compatible
>    side) but, are using the Display libraries in BLITZ mode.

I don't program in Blitz, so I can only judge it by the games I've seen,
but I think that I may have seen one RPG that could have run in NTSC, but
it popped up a requestor saying something like the screen not the right
size, and then quit.
 
>    You will have problems with any PAL-only games regardless of the
>    language. I have seen MANY AMOS, BLITZ as well as Assembler
>    games/demos which either have garbled NTSC-displays, important
>    data displayed off the visible screen, lock-ups due to the slightly
>    faster NTSC video-synch, etc.  This was a common problem with
>    commercial (most in Assembler I assume) games a few years back.
>    I don't know how many times I had garbled screens or lock-ups.

I have not seen any such problems in PAL Amos games, and if programers
would just let users adjust the SCREEN DISPLAY command their would be
no problems at all. 
 
>    The solution I came up with is simple: Simply Boot your Amiga in
>    PAL-mode then run the game/demo and it will work fine. Even now,
>    I simply expect most games will require PAL-mode and don't even
>    attempt to use them in NTSC.

Thats not an option for a real gamer I play on my 35" SVHS TV. 
        Don't you monitor guys worry about hemorrhoids ?

>    This is a real problem though and I hope more authors will cater to
>    both PAL and NTSC users. It's very simple to add this kind of support
>    and it makes it SO much easier on the end-user...


>[SNIP]
>    (Mr. Giark?).
> 
> 
>       Take  care,
>       GARFIELD
> 

I agree it's a real problem.

Eric Hyland
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     What is the largest Amos screen I can display on my tv screen?  Is it 
     the 640 x 512 Hi-Res screen?  I am trying to do a front panel for a 
     program and I can't seem to fit it all into the screen without it 
     looking crammed.  I am using the smallest font I have which is DPaint 
     font size 5 and it still looks pretty cluttered.
     
     
     Declan.

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This mail was returned to me, so I'm sending it again!...

>On 08-Oct-97, Mush scribbled:
>>The box of compilers I ordered arrived this afternoon.
>>I shall release the exact prices within the next 2 days or so.
>>Mush

Nice  one m8. Hope sales go well for you. Any news on getting Amos Pro
though?  I  think  I sent a message to you before on this subject. Why
not  do  away  with a printed manual? On disk Amigaguide would suffice
most peeps if it keeps costs down.

I  know,  I know, you can't beat the printed manual though. I agree, I
couldn't  do  without  my Amos Pro manual at times, but new Amos users
would maybe be happy with on disk text.

I  don't  hold out much luck for you getting Europress to release Amos
Pro  though!  Well, maybe if the price is right. They would want a few
bucks though, that's for sure.

I  can't  remember the figure Steve Bye mentioned to me when he tried.
But it was far too much :(

Anyway,  wasn't there a rumour sometime back about Europress releasing
Amos Pro as PD or even the code for the language so peeps could update
it etc? Hmmmm....

cya ;)

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> I think your wrong about one thing here, the graphic routines in BLITZ
> are SLOWER than the ones in AMOS. Dont get me wrong the complied
> code is far faster then AMOS (this is what courses the speed difference).

   The problem is these things are all subjective. The code-processing can
   be MUCH faster or a bit faster depending on your variable-types.

   In case I gave the wrong impression, let me clarify. Some gfx-commands
   are VERY close to AMOS's speed while others (like "bobs" or blits
   actually) are much faster.


> I would just like to put in my 2 pence worth, I know people are going
> to get peed off with the argument but this is what you get for 
> mentioning BLITZ on the AMOS List :)

   Yes, I like both languages, but even I am growing tired of all the
   discussion.  I do have a solution for this whole thing (see below).

[SNIP] - I agree with MUCH of what you said...


> So my final conclusion is that it all depends on what you want to 
> program and archive. Anybody saying `so-and-so language is crap` or
> `that proggy is crap because it was programmed in so-and-so` is 
> aload of crap in itself. Every proggy made on this great machine all
> depends on the programmer. Anyone can make a great proggy in what
> ever language they are com with.

   I AGREE COMPLETELY!!!  


   Now, I think this whole debate can be resolved by simply referring
   any one who posts BLITZ vs AMOS messages to my webpages,
   which I hope to have up this weekend.

   I will set up an area with just this topic in mind.  There will be a
   demo written in both languages which you can simply download
   and then compare the two first-hand.

   Also, IF any one on this list has some interest in learning BLITZ then
   just write me personally (or visit my webpage) and I'll give you a hand
   converting code from AMOS.

   It's not that I want to convert PEOPLE over from AMOS, rather that I
   think people should have the chance to fairly judge the "other"
   language, BUT the place to do that is NOT here...

   Case closed!!  I'll post a message when I have the webpage ready...


      Take care,
      GARFIELD


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> ...I can only judge it by the games I've seen,
> but I think that I may have seen one RPG that could have run in NTSC, but
> it popped up a requestor saying something like the screen not the right
> size, and then quit.

   Well, that's just the programmer taking the easy way out.  Too bad
   really as obviously he was half-way there. Apparently, what happens
   is most of these programmers design everything based on the PAL-
   display and it's all hard-coded in so, resizing everything for NTSC
   (which would be necessary for an OS-programmed game or
   whatever, unless they opened a scrollable screen) would be too much
   trouble...


> I have not seen any such problems in PAL Amos games,

   Fair enough... I've seen games with garbled displays both because of
   NTSC-mode as well as running on an AGA-machine... BUT, I know
   this is not AMOS's fault as I have seen the same thing with
   games written in other languages.


> and if programmers would just let users adjust the SCREEN DISPLAY
> command their would be no problems at all.

   Well, I agree... I'd say if they would just do anything to support NTSC
   (and we try to fully utilize PAL as well), it would be a BIG step in the
   right direction. Certainly a bit more acceptable than just quitting the
   program...


>> ...Simply Boot your Amiga in PAL-mode...
 
   > Thats not an option for a real gamer I play on my 35" SVHS TV. 
   >  Don't you monitor guys worry about hemorrhoids ?

      Personally, I've never given it any thought, but that's probably due
      to the fact that I never realized monitors caused hemorrhoids!!
      

      Take care,
      GARFIELD



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Hi,
To all who tried to help me with my Exec problem, thanks. I tried
everything but to no avail, so maybe its my version of AP or my amiga
or something. Anyway it was only a curiosity thing so I'm not too
worried!

Keep Amosing!

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From: Evert-Jan Slypen <Jazz@lobster.demon.nl>
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In message <yam7222.1027.1745647000@smtp.xs4all.nl>, Michel Bijlsma
<cloak@xs4all.nl> writes

>As you all know, we from Jolly are working (hard) on the Jade
>extension.
>I am looking for 2 betatesters.

For those of you who don't know, JADE stands for the Jolly Aga
Development Extension... so it is indeed the illustrous AGA Extension we
want betatesters for.

>Greetings, Cloak/Jolly - The Jade Developers Team.
>

-- 
Evert-Jan Slypen, also from the Jade Developers Team :))

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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
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On 10-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>      Yes, I had a look at the excellent menu executable. It's a very nice
>      piece of work...

Heh, I try.

>      I realize that I need to access the Config file to extract the user's
>      desired configuration, but they can still center that 234-pixel box
>      and I can use that data to center my variable-size displays. 

I'm guessing that we need to make a final list of variables so that everyone
can access them.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                           joehick@golden.net
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On 10-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>      Anyway, I just thought it was kind of interesting to see that the
>      final project (WHEN COMPLETED) will probably be well over 5MB...

That's only 6 disks or so. I can think of a lot of games that have been at
least that many and weren't nearly as humourly incredible as CBATNAM will be.

>   Well, I've ported the samples (all 2MB) over to my Amiga... You did a
>   great job.  They sound very unique as game-sounds go, sort of
>   cartoon-inspired...

"Get him, my minions."

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 11-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>> and if programmers would just let users adjust the SCREEN DISPLAY
>> command their would be no problems at all.
>   Well, I agree... I'd say if they would just do anything to support NTSC
>   (and we try to fully utilize PAL as well), it would be a BIG step in the
>   right direction. Certainly a bit more acceptable than just quitting the
>   program...

This concern is addressed in CBATNAM. I know, I already said it, but it needs
to be said again. CBATNAM will be the most unique AMOS game ever created, both
due to the fact of it being a good game and due to the international
programming team writng it.

To the programming team:
Deadline for your next demo (final demo?) in four days!

To the betatesters:
Get on it!

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 11-Oct-97, Evert-Jan Slypen wrote:
> In message <yam7222.1027.1745647000@smtp.xs4all.nl>, Michel Bijlsma
> <cloak@xs4all.nl> writes

> >As you all know, we from Jolly are working (hard) on the Jade
> >extension.
> >I am looking for 2 betatesters.

> For those of you who don't know, JADE stands for the Jolly Aga
> Development Extension... so it is indeed the illustrous AGA Extension we
> want betatesters for.

thnx for the additional info i forgot to mention :)

> >Greetings, Cloak/Jolly - The Jade Developers Team.
> >

> -- 
> Evert-Jan Slypen, also from the Jade Developers Team :))



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I was unable to contact

Jason Street, Magnar Sveen, Schitzo

through email. If any of these individuals are still working/testing CB,
please let me know.
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Matt Ward, who did thus
comment on Exec problems on the night of 11-Oct-97:
-> Hi,
-> To all who tried to help me with my Exec problem, thanks. I tried
-> everything but to no avail, so maybe its my version of AP or my amiga
-> or something. Anyway it was only a curiosity thing so I'm not too
-> worried!

Incedentally, what version of AMOSPro do you have, are you using the coverdisk
version?

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Johannes Rydh, who did
thus comment on Re: New AMOS game on the night of 08-Oct-97:

-> Hm, what exactly do you mean?
-> Everything is done in AMOSPro. I don't have any compiler.
-> That is of course a problem, but i hope to get it solved...
-> Perhaps i could buy it, but my wallet is nearly empty.

Hehe, ill be releasing prices for the compiler tomorrow, and i can assure you
i am cheaper than anywhere else. What I mean by demo, is send me any kind of
archives for the game you want to be available for anyone to download and have
a look at. Just email them to me directly.

-> Do you want the code for it?
-> Don't have so much time to program myself, but it's going forward...
-> In fact, i have done about the half of the basic programming, excluding bug
-> testing.

I could put the code in the library and see if anyone else would like to
finish it.

-> But it looks very bright.

-> Oh, right. Would you like to have SpaceWars I !?
-> My game, SWII, is much better and have more function and action et. But it
-> builds on the same idea. What do you say?

If spacewars 1 was written in AMOS, then yes, I would like to have it.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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I now have the AMOSPro compiler in stock. The price for it will be 12 UK
pounds *without* the postage costs. I know the postage in certain countries
is more than other, so if you would still like to order it, please tell me
the currency and country, so I can work out an exact cost.

When sending cheques, I would prefer in UK and US dollars only, otherwise
cash value in your own currency. If sending cash, you do so at your own
risk. Please contact me if you would still like the compiler.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Jamie Bentley, who did
thus comment on I need Help with PLATFORM detection on the night of 13-Oct-97:

->  Oh yeah, is there a channel where I can talk to you guys realtime? Instead
of
-> mailing?

There is often somone on #AMOS on stealth or webbernet

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Subject: Re: Bubba game
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:22:58 -0400
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> Also adding the fact that they have been a bit more original and not just
> recreated simple games that we've seen hundreds of times in slightly
> different guises and you might understand why I think that you are
> maybe blowing it's horn a bit too much.
> It may turn out to be a great game and all but I don't think that telling
> people its made in AMOS will make them think that AMOS is actually
> really good. 

   I believe the final CB-project will speak loud and clear "AMOS is
   capable of far more than it's credited for!!".  Naturally AMOS won't
   receive all of the credit, some should go to the actual developers...


> I'd find it more likely they'd think that AMOS is only just good enough
> to create a whole load of very old and simple games rather than just
> being plain rubbish, which of course, we all know better.

   The simple fact is, based on what is currently available on the 
   WebPage, I think the CB-project will easily be the most-impressive
   game ever developed in AMOS.  That's not to say that people aren't
   currently working on "better" projects, just that compared to the
   AMOS-developed games currently available, none compare to this
   CB-project or at least I've never seen these other AMOS-games, if they
   are better.

   Don't take this the wrong way.  I think a BIG, focused project like a
   Warcraft/C&C/X-COM/Warlords/Diablo-inspired game would draw far
   more interest, INITIALLY...

   But, it's not just the game-styles that are important, it's the
   EXECUTION of the game-style.  Anyone can sit down and make a
   very involved, BIG game, but what's the point if it "feels" like you're
   moving in slow-motion and the whole thing seems very sloppily
   programmed?  

   CBATNAM will be a good-sized game (over 5MB) when complete
   and will have all the elements of a great game:  Good playability,
   good audio/video feed-back, a "fun" storyline that will be depicted
   through "cinemas" and five seperate game-styles for the ultimate in
   variety, all slickly programmed as well.

   So, let people try CBATNAM and compare it to other games,
   particularly games developed in AMOS, and then we'll see if they
   aren't just a tiny bit impressed with the language and wondering why
   nobody has ever made such an impressive AMOS game before...



      Take  care,
      GARFIELD


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#############################################################################
#Hi there. This is the usual Mushroom PD letter sent out every so often,    #
#telling you of the latest happeneings within the library. This mail is sent#
#to all those people on the Mushroom PD mailing list, and also sent to the  #
#AMOS mailing list. If you are on the private mailing list, and would like  #
#to be removed from this list, please send an email to mushypd@redrose.net  #
#with the subject being UNSUBSCRIBE [your email address].                   #
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Date of release: October 12 1997, 7:14 pm

Contents for this Email:

    INTRODUCTION - General information and comments to all readers
    ANNOUNCEMENT - Mushroom PD now sells the AMOSPro Compiler!!!!!
      AGA REPORT - Reporting the status of the AGA situation with AMOS.
                   We've all heard stories, lets hear some answers!!
         PREVIEW - First preview of a worldwide effort to make a new AMOS
game!
  FREE FTP SPACE - Free FTP space available to AMOS programmers
          RECENT - List of Recent uploads, and some reccomended programs!
        FAREWELL - Well, tatty byes for this issue!

INTRODUCTION
-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    Welcome, to the October issue of the Mushroom PD report. This issue
see's the introduction of several new features, including the methods in
which this mail is sent to you. Previously in the past, if the list
contained any bad email address' the entire message would be returned to
some of the list members, which also meant the receiving of a large BCC:
list which was not only inconvinient, but took some time to download.
Having written and released a program called "MPDMailpost" which I uploaded
to my own library, as well as Aminet in comm/mail, which will send the same
email to everyone in a large list of mailing address' and uses a fully
customizable GUI interface (Thanks to the GUI Extension). This Mushroom PD
list now boasts almost 300 individual members.

    I would also like to apologize for the extreme delay since the last of
these messages. I was experiencing extreme hard drive problems, in which I
lost all of my partitions, and subsequently, the whole PD library. After
using lots of different methods, I was able to recover everything except my
Workbench partition, and I am still trying to put bits and pieces back into
it to make it work like it used to.

ANNOUNCEMENT
-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    If you had read the last report which was released, you will know that
I had placed an order in to start selling the AMOSPro Compiler from my
homepages. That order has now arrived, in the form of 10 copies (5 of which
have already been reserved) which are now on sale.

    The package comes with a printed manual, the Compiler disk itself, an
updater disk (to make your version 2.00 if it already isnt) and an extra's
disk with examples etc. I also have included an extra disk with more
goodies on it. The package costs 12 UK pounds *before* the postage has been
added on to it, as with the various costs for international postage, this
will be added onto the overall cost.

    If you are interested in getting hold of the compiler, then drop me a
line at mushypd@redrose.net and reserve your copy now. You should also let
me know what currency you use, and what country you are in so I can work
out an exact price for you. Any compiler orders placed on hold will remain
so for 2 weeks, unless otherwise notified.

    In the next few weeks, I have been told there is a slim chance that I
can get hold of AMOSPro itself, so please keep in tune for these developing
news as they arrive!!

AGA REPORT
-=-=-=-=-=-

    Everyone knows that AGA in AMOS is currently not available directly.
This section will hopefully tell and show you how you can acheive it, and
the various extensions which you can use to get there. Lets start with a
small piece of info on the history of AGA AMOS.

    The first AGA graphics to be incorporated into any AMOS listings, were
simple hacks which altered values in the copper, to give the impression of
an AGA screen. The only back-draw to this method, was you couldnt really
display any AGA graphics, but you could display an AGA copper in the
background only.

    There were a couple of attempts at an AGA extension, and the ones which
were released were not very good at all, as all they really could do, was
display AGA pictures by reducing their palettes etc. There wasnt a single
extension at this time, which could claim to be a true AGA extension.

    Then came along the GUI extension. It is written by Pietro Ghizzoni and
is the first, easily manipulable extension that not only offers the best OS
application programming for AMOSPro - but will also let you program AGA
graphics for the very first time in the history of AMOS. Here is a note
from Pietro himself on the subject of AGA and the GUI extension:
On 29-Set-97, Mush wrote: GUI Extension

"Well... what i acheived with the GUI Extension is the first real AGA
support, no Copper hacks and so on. Due to its total OS respect the GUI
Extension can obtain the best from the system.. this mean it supports
AGA, Graphics Card, Advanced Screen Mode like the HighGfx modes. Now a
CyberGFX 24bit screen with 16M of colours can be easly handled in Amos.

Most of the GUI gfx commands are faster than the Amos equivalent, so you
can create cool and fast WB application. 

The GUI Extension v1.63 is the first approach to AGA. Now the phase 1 is
completed... i've a full working AGA enviroment for the GUI Ext... the next
phase is the 'Power Up'... a lots of new gfx commands and facilities for a
advanced AGA use.

What i hope to acheive with the GUI Ext in the future:

- Amos Screen promotion.... display a Amos screen in the WB

- a new fast animation system. Since the AGA introduce some High definition
screenmode, we need a powerfull animation system for creating a fast and
smooth animation... this mean XFA (eXtra Fast Animation) support. Actually
only some commercial softwares supports this standard... but in the near
future the Amos users will can use it too!

- extended TCP/IP commands set for a faster access

- other cool GUI stuff: drag'n'drop, iconify (MUI like), and other 100.000
ideas in my head ;) "


    At this time, there are 2 other extensions underway which will try and
bring AGA into AMOS. The longest in the works has been the JADE extension,
which has been subject to many rumours saying that it will not be released.
The original programmers claimed several months ago that they were writing
an AGA extension, before a long long period of silence. All we have seen of
their extension so far, is a list of commands which they wish to include,
and more recently an advert to the AMOS mailing list requesting beta
testers when a test version is released. Noone has submitted to me any kind
of demo, even though they claim the extension is just being debugged, and
the main part is completed.

    The other AGA extension being written, will be called the Game
extension, written by Peter Cahill. I have seen one example of this
extension, and from what I have seen, it will look very nice when it is
completed. Peter did send me a small file of what he hopes to include in
the extension, but I have misplaced it at this time  =(

    The GUI Extension is available both from Aminet in dev/amos and from my
PD library, and whats more, it is freeware, which means there are
absolutely no restrictions whatsoever.

PREVIEW
-=-=-=-=

    There is a new AMOS game in the works, called Captain Bubba and the
Nasty alien Menace. Its a world-wide effort being the first international
game to really come out from AMOS. There will be several different kind of
games merged into the one large game, with levels such as a tekken-type
fight, a raycaster, an excellent blood money-type level, plus a few others
which I wont spoil for you just yet!

    There are approximately 12-15 programmers (including myself) working on
the project, and we are hoping to have it finished in time for christmas.
The joint effort will be available to purchase exclusively from my
homepages at www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and as the release date gets nearer,
I will let you know.

FREE FTP SPACE
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    Are you an AMOS programmer who would like a small amount of FTP space
for storing your games, and information on other AMOS projects etc. but
dont have the space that you'd like? If you would like some space, then
contact me at mushypd@redrose.net where I will be happy to send you
information on how you can get some on my site for free. This only applies
to AMOS programmers.

RECENT UPLOADS
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

As per usual, this is the list of files most recently uploaded to the
library. If you go to the homepages at www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and follow
through the links to the PD Library listings, you can see all of the titles
currently in the library.

| Complete Recent Mushroom PD Index on Sunday 12-Oct-97 22:32:27
| The list is sorted by directory and file name
|
| This site, mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org, contains all files uploaded to
| Mushroom PD within the last 7 days. Files which didnt have a .Readme in
| them were discarded. If your upload isnt here, please look in the
| appropriate section of the library, and if you still cant find it, try
| to upload it once more.
|
| To visit the Mushroom PD homepages to get the latest version of this
| file, go to http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/index.html and follow
| the approriate links.
|
| You can also FTP into the library directly at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org
| logging on as anonymous, sending your email address as your password, and
| download the first INDEX file in the /pub/amos/ drawer.
|
| If you experience any problems, please email the webmaster at
| mushypd@redrose.net and the problem will be resolved as soon as
| possible. Thank-you.
|
|File                     Dir            KBytes Description
|-----------------        ---            ------ -----------
 AMOSList-0697.lzh        docs/amoslst      300 Messages about AMOS during
June 1997
 AMOSList-0797.lzh        docs/amoslst      348 Messages about AMOS during
July 1997
 AMOSList-0897.lzh        docs/amoslst      404 Messages about AMOS during
August 1997
 AMOSList-0997.lzh        docs/amoslst      278 Messages about AMOS during
September 1997
 AMOSP61Ext.lha           extnsns/amospro    19 AMOS Pro P61 Music Extension
V1.2
 APro_GadTools.lha        extnsns/amospro    29 A Include-File for AMOSPro
(German Guide)
 deltaext.lha             extnsns/amospro    46 AMOSPro_Delta.Lib - some
extension for AMOS
 TFT_Extension.lha        extnsns/amospro    11 Amos Pro -> TFT Extension v
0.6 <-
 THXLib06.lha             extnsns/amospro    21 AMOS Pro Extension to play
THX-Modules (0.6)
 Tools.lha                extnsns/amospro     7 A small (2K) extension for
AMOSPro. v1.01
 botsb.lha                games/2play       338 Like tank battle only Beetles!
 fredfrog.lha             games/jump        326 Guide a frog back home.
 FutureMiner.Lha          games/jump        541 Cool Platform game
 poing2.lha               games/jump        320 A cool pong game with powerups
& more
 Proto5.lha               games/misc        239 Excellent Tamagotchi
simulator, written in AMOS and GUI Extension
 Sendai064.lha            games/misc        179 Short   : anime-style RPG in
development
 Sendai63.lha             games/misc        175 HI THERE!
 UFOCU.lha                games/misc         95 Savefile editor for UFO -
Enemy Unknown!
 RoboBlaster.lha          games/platform    136 Simple platformer in which you
must save a city
 Starboy_DF0.Lha          games/platform    207 Excellent multi-level platform
game, recently on Amiga Formats coverdisks.
 Wibble_Giddy.lha         games/platform    182 Nice game with a lot of
puzzles
 cavcom.lha               games/shoot       312 Scrolling Rescue Shooter.
 Psycho_Path.lha          games/think       185 Psycho path. Platform game to
get the brain cells working
 CDL-Terror.Lha           gfx/demo         1053 Terror By Candle - Funny demo
 Vectors.lha              gfx/font           44 Vector letters source.
Latin&Greek data set
 MapMaster.lha            gfx/misc          123 Map creator for use in AMOS
games of all kinds
 tscene1.lha              gfx/misc          147 Demo of scene/map editor with
TURBO Plus
 MusicMeister.lha         music/play        248 A .abk music player with some
example mods
 amos-col.lha             source/comp       219 AMOS-COL - colection AMOS
sources codes
 Neat_Source.lzx          source/disk        14 Unpack files crunched with
Crunchmania directly from AMOS
 TSL_source.lha           source/disk        12 Source of biz/dbase/TSL-2.lha
(Fast INDEX KEEPER for DJs)
 AmosAGA.lha              source/gfx         34 AmosAGA V0.09 - AGA Screens
for Amos 
 clipfont_demo.lha        source/gfx         24 How to scroll fonts in AMOS
 Evaluator.lha            source/misc         3 Expression Evaluator in source
code format
 unlocker.lha             utils/amospro       5 Unlocks AMOS folded procedures
 termplay.lha             utils/internet     60 VT100 Terminal Program w/Amos
source
 texter2.lha              utils/misc        169 Delta-Texter2 - COOL! program
for convert ascii-files

Total of 6997602 New Bytes uploaded, with 202148352 Available upload space.

FAREWELL
-=-=-=-=-

    That just about covers everything for this issue of the report. If you
have any questions or comments at all, feel free to contact me at
mushypd@redrose.net where I will be happy to answer your questions.

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From: "Johannes Rydh" <johannes@ibrium.se>
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:21:23 +0100
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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:28:14 +0500, Mush wrote about "Re: New AMOS game":

->> Hm, what exactly do you mean?
->> Everything is done in AMOSPro. I don't have any compiler.
->> That is of course a problem, but i hope to get it solved...
->> Perhaps i could buy it, but my wallet is nearly empty.

> Hehe, ill be releasing prices for the compiler tomorrow, and i can
> assure you
> i am cheaper than anywhere else. What I mean by demo, is send me any
I will concider buying AMOSPro compiler. I promise you, i'll buy it from you if anyone!

> kind of
> archives for the game you want to be available for anyone to download
> and have
> a look at. Just email them to me directly.

Yep, i'll try to do a demo.
But it's problem with coding it. You see, i started to work with this project about an year ago, but then i stopped. At that time, I wasn't very good at programming. When i am programming now, it sometimes gets really messy. Concidering to completely re-write the whole game.
 

->> Do you want the code for it?
->> Don't have so much time to program myself, but it's going forward...
->> In fact, i have done about the half of the basic programming,
->> excluding bug
->> testing.

> I could put the code in the library and see if anyone else would like to
> finish it.

OK. First i'll try to come up with a version that can be programmed good, if you got what i mean. Without any mess...


->> Oh, right. Would you like to have SpaceWars I !?
->> My game, SWII, is much better and have more function and action et.
->> But it
->> builds on the same idea. What do you say?

> If spacewars 1 was written in AMOS, then yes, I would like to have it.

It is written in AMOS.
I'll send you it in a private letter later.

Bye!

---

Regards, Johannes Rydh



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To: MtL ManUtd <bangatearmy@hotmail.com>
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:38:32 -0000
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On 13-Oct-97, MtL ManUtd scribbled:

>I tried this using my Viewtrek but its didnt worked! hmm still that
>stupid file selector was coming up..

What selector do you mean???

>Then i tried viewing jpgs with fast jpg and then it worked. I think
>it must be the viewtrek program that dont want 2 understand the exec 
>line!

Are you using 1.3, 2.x or 3.x??? Amos Pro V1 or 2 etc.

Anyway,  try  this out, it might just be what you're looking for. It's
worked  fine  for  me  everytime. So I hope you have no probs. (It may
require Kick2.x)

BTW Check the VT dox and make sure you have all LIBS etc present :)

onwards....

'----------SNIP HERE---------------
'
' ********************************
' *    Amos ViewTek Viewer!!!    *
' * bY Andy Gibson for Amos List *
' *       - Who cares????       *
' ********************************
'
Proc _VIEWPIC["C:VT","RAM:piccy"]
'
'
Procedure _VIEWPIC[COMM$,FILE$]
   '
   ' Just some err trapping...not really required...
   If Exist(COMM$)=0 : Bell : Edit : End If 
   If Exist(FILE$)=0 : Shoot : Edit : End If 
   '
   ' Put Amos to back. If you have CRAFT, you could also use the
   ' WB To Front command to make sure WB is at the front when you
   ' flip Amos to back, thus hiding any other WB apps running :^)
   '
   Amos To Back 
   '    
   COMMAND$=COMM$+" "+FILE$+Chr$(0)
   Dreg(1)=Varptr(COMMAND$)
   Dreg(2)=0 : Dreg(3)=0
   XEXECUTE=Doscall(-222)
   '
   If Not Amos Here : Bell : Amos To Front : End If 
   Amos To Front 
   
   '
End Proc
'
'----------SNIP HERE---------------

Save  the  above  to disk as something like FILE.asc and use the Merge
Ascii  from the Project menu in Amos Pro. Sorry if I'm patronising you
m8, just trying to help... ;^)

Yyou  could  maybe  add some kind of loop with a Multi Wait command so
that  all  processor time is given back to the system when in WB. This
should  make  VT  run smoother also. And one more thing, try opening a
CLI  window  and  printing  some  text  to it to tell peeps that VT is
loading a piccy etc.

Use  Easylife  for Iconify or Amcaf, GUI Etx's etc for other great CLI
commands.

Lemme know how you get on also.

ttfn, Andy Gibson.

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 I have a large dilema.

 Is there like a preset way, or an easy way of having a sprite land on a platform (I tried collision detection, but because the sprite moved 4  pixels at a time, it often ended up in the platform up to its knees)..

 The reason I ask it, I can't seem to make a decent platform game, I've made strategies (Command Until Crushed (10 meg)), but this is IMPOSSIBLE... All I want is a simple (very simple) game like Qwak (or Bubble Bobble).

 With 32 colour gfx :)

 Oh yeah, is there a channel where I can talk to you guys realtime? Instead of mailing?

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Greetings.

> Is there like a preset way, or an easy way of having a sprite land
> on a platform (I tried collision detection, but because the sprite
> moved 4  pixels at a time, it often ended up in the platform up to
> its knees)..

Why don't you have a look at Dithell's Wonderland that came on the 
Productivity disk with AMOS Pro (if you have it). It's an *excellent* 
platformer and should be easy to follow along. If you don't have it, 
I'm sure I could email it to you.
 
> Oh yeah, is there a channel where I can talk to you guys realtime? 
Why, sure. Jump on IRC, and look for us on #AMOS. I know that I (as 
well as Mush, Giark, and most of the other Listers) use and IRCNet 
server (irc.stealth.net, irc.webbernet.net, irc.netcom.co.uk, etc.)

`Remember: a penny saved is ridiculous.'

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Matt Ward, who did thus
comment on Andrew Campbell on the night of 13-Oct-97:
-> Hi does anybody know if Andrew Campbell, author of the Black Dawn
-> games, has an email address? Please reply to me as I'm still not
-> hooked up to the list, thanks!

He has an email account at andy@ajco.demon.co.uk (this what what I was
emailing him at) but he doesnt code in AMOS all that much anymore, as he
concentrates more on his story writing and such.

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Maybe try this out....

A$="df0:c/viewtek"
b$="df0:pics/mypic"

Exec A$+Chr$(32)+B$+Chr$(10)+Chr$(0)

You  may  not  need Chr$(10), but Chr$(0) should maybe be there at the
end to NULL terminate the file. Try it different ways.

I tried this using my Viewtrek but its didnt worked! hmm still that
stupid file selector was coming up..

Then i tried viewing jpgs with fast jpg and then it worked. I think
it must be the viewtrek program that dont want 2 understand the exec 
line!




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Does anybody have those exec.lib, dos.lib commands in a text file
if so please e-mail it here! I mean like -132 ; shut of interupt 
 

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Hi does anybody know if Andrew Campbell, author of the Black Dawn
games, has an email address? Please reply to me as I'm still not
hooked up to the list, thanks!

cya
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:00:29 -0500
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On 12-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>   The simple fact is, based on what is currently available on the 
>   WebPage, I think the CB-project will easily be the most-impressive
>   game ever developed in AMOS.

And it looks like we may just make the December release date.

>   So, let people try CBATNAM and compare it to other games,
>   particularly games developed in AMOS, and then we'll see if they
>   aren't just a tiny bit impressed with the language and wondering why
>   nobody has ever made such an impressive AMOS game before...

And also impressed with the global scope of the programming team.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:02:20 -0500
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On 12-Oct-97, Peter Cahill wrote:
>>You will be getting feedback
>>from Betatesters about your new demo soon after it reaches the web page.
>WOW !
>Ive only ever got feedback off garfield,EJS,Braneloc,mush,you.

I'll be sending a questionnaire to all the betatesters still on the list. If
they want to be listed as betatesters, they will have to complete and return
the form.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 12-Oct-97, Peter Cahill wrote:
>>of the whole group would be nice too, sort of a group photo of people who
>>have never met.
>PS: How come I got the job of putting the pics of everyone into a
>    group photo & making the pics ok for the web page ?

`Cuz you suggested the "blow the smeg out of the programmers" idea? 

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Mr. Giark To You, who
did thus comment on Re: PICS on the night of 13-Oct-97:
-> On 12-Oct-97, Peter Cahill wrote:
-> >>of the whole group would be nice too, sort of a group photo of people who
-> >>have never met.
-> >PS: How come I got the job of putting the pics of everyone into a
-> >    group photo & making the pics ok for the web page ?

-> `Cuz you suggested the "blow the smeg out of the programmers" idea? 

Ill tamper with the pics to make everyone go on one image, if noone
objects. Just send the pics to me and i'll paste them on an interesting
background. Hmmm, I think braneloc would look OK with hooters...  ;)

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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members.ml.org (the company who host my mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org account) are still
experiencing technical difficulties with their dyndns servers, and until they
can fix it at their end, it will be out of commission unless you FTP directly
to my host (if you see me on IRC, do a /WHOIS on me). Im sorry for any
inconvinience this may cause to some people.

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 Okay...

 Anybody who can help.. Please do. I need to save out the sound of the Amos Pro speech thing as a standard IFF or Raw sample for a song I'm making. Its not for a game or anything, i just like its robotic speech and want to make Amos save it out as a sample.
 
 Could  somebody give me the lines of code I would need (if its possible).. Thanks.

 *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS ***

 JAMIE BENTLEY

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#############################################################################
#Hi there. This is the usual Mushroom PD letter sent out every so often,    #
#telling you of the latest happeneings within the library. This mail is sent#
#to all those people on the Mushroom PD mailing list, and also sent to the  #
#AMOS mailing list. If you are on the private mailing list, and would like  #
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Mushroom PD is becomming an official distributor for F1 licenseware, owned
by Phil Wilkinson, also of 5th dimension licenseware. I will be signing the
contract any day now, and will begin selling titles before the month is
over. This will benefit my AMOS PD library tremendously, as a lot of the
titles in F1 are written in AMOS, and they offer some great extensions,
games and utilities, and I hope I can steer him towards recruiting new AMOS
programmers.

If you have any questions whatsoever, please feel free to email me at
mushypd@redrose.net and I will get to your question as soon as possible.

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     A couple of questions....
     
     i) Is there an Amos extension that supports Midi?
     
     ii) Has anyone on the list written any Midi routines using Amos?
     
     iii) Where can I get some technical documentation on how to address    
          Midi hardware?
     
     Thanks.
     
     Declan.

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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
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Greetings.

Well, I think I have a functioning demo to send to Giark for the List 
game (using John Bintz's old raycasting routine). I didn't want to 
have to use his, (I would prefer to use mine) but it was the only one 
I could work out on such short notice. I would have (and will be) 
using mine in the future as soon as I get it worked out (I've had 
a problem with the distance), but until then, this will have to do.

Attached is MY routine thus far (not the demo for the List game, 
but my raycasting routine, with the ASCII tables needed to run it, 
which, btw, are not converted to banks yet). I'm sending it to the 
List in the hopes that someone will be able to help me figure out 
exactly what's wrong with it. I've seriously considered re-writing it 
and starting over after I finish up my current demo.

Anyhow, anyone may look at it and modify it as they wish (so long 
as to make it work), and then send it what they've done/modified.
You may NOT spread it around, except for the purpose of letting 
someone else see and/or correct-modify it.

I would have refrained from sending this TO the List, but I figured 
this way EVERYONE can see it, which would mean more people could help 
me than the the 3 I originally asked (Two of which will remain 
nameless at this time, and the third which DID help me (Mush) via 
e-mail and IRC. Thanks Mush.) I don't want to hear any complaining 
either. This files NO BIGGER than 6k, and w/the message, it's nothing 
to whine about, especially considering it's worth it.

Again, I'm thankful for ANY (but please useful) help anyone can give 
me. Mail me if you have any questions (even though I've documented 
just about everything, so there shouldn't be any problems.) The .lha 
has been UUencoded for your convience. If you can't open it (or it's 
corrupt), just mail me and I'll send it again encoded differently.

Communist (n): one who has given up all hope of becoming a Capitalist.

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft

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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Date: 17 Oct 120 06:28:26 +0000
Subject: Re: Amos vs Blitz
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>  You may all love amos, but stop living in your own worlds, I use AMOS because I can't use blitz. Blitz is faster, better, and superior in every way except its slightly harder to use.

errr... yeah...

Well I think we all know that that statement is bollocks.
If it were true, somehow I think we'd all be using Blitz.

Blitz is slightly more powerful but much harder to use and full of all
sorts of annoying things.
AMOS isn't perfect but its more perfect than Blitz and its god awful
editing environment.

-Murray

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           \\|//     Alastair Murray
           (o o)       malcolm.murray@virgin.net
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
|         AMINET         |Web-Page (Amiga/Games/AMOS/trek/Music/    |
|     game/role/CHAOS    |                  +more)                  |
|game/jump/Banana Islands|http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray|
|   game/shoot/Hanger18  |Current Projects: >Chaos 2                |
|    dev/amos/keystate   | >Kill Em All     >Hanger 18 II           |
|    dev/amos/picpack    | >Skool Daze      >The Crow               |
|   game/shoot/traitor   | >Banana Islands                          |
|   game/shoot/extinct   | >The Turtleminator                       |
|     game/jump/blobby   | >Backbone - The Game Creator             |
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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Date: 17 Oct 120 06:45:54 +0000
Subject: Bubba game
Message-Id: <5F8A9322.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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> This concern is addressed in CBATNAM. I know, I already said it, but it needs
> to be said again. CBATNAM will be the most unique AMOS game ever created, both
> due to the fact of it being a good game and due to the international
> programming team writng it.

I'm afraid that while I'm very happy about all this team work and progress
on the Bubba game, I'm not so sure about the statement that it is the most
unique AMOS game ever.
I haven't taken any offense and please don't either but I feel that I (and
many others too) have created a fair few unique AMOS games of our own.
I believe that they are good, and they are (and have been) created with the
help of various people around the world too.
Also adding the fact that they have been a bit more original and not just
recreated simple games that we've seen hundreds of times in slightly different
guises and you might understand why I think that you are maybe blowing it's
horn a bit too much.
It may turn out to be a great game and all but I don't think that telling people
its made in AMOS will make them think that AMOS is actually really good.
I'd find it more likely they'd think that AMOS is only just good enough to
create a whole load of very old and simple games rather than just being
plain rubbish, which of course, we all know better.

Having said that, I still hope it does become the great game that it is being
trumpeted as.

-Murray

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           \\|//     Alastair Murray
           (o o)       malcolm.murray@virgin.net
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
|         AMINET         |Web-Page (Amiga/Games/AMOS/trek/Music/    |
|     game/role/CHAOS    |                  +more)                  |
|game/jump/Banana Islands|http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray|
|   game/shoot/Hanger18  |Current Projects: >Chaos 2                |
|    dev/amos/keystate   | >Kill Em All     >Hanger 18 II           |
|    dev/amos/picpack    | >Skool Daze      >The Crow               |
|   game/shoot/traitor   | >Banana Islands                          |
|   game/shoot/extinct   | >The Turtleminator                       |
|     game/jump/blobby   | >Backbone - The Game Creator             |
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:25:22 +1000
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 HI ALL...

 I recently offered people some gfx, but only a few took, and some didn't send me the info I asked for (so they didn't get jack)... So, I'll offer something most people don't deny...

 FREE MUSIC. CREATED 3-4 and OVER 8 CHANNEl (Octamed Sound Studio) for you
games. I can supply it in Protracker, AMOS, MED and OSS.

 I would  however, like to know what type of game it is, what type of music you want, and etc.

 P.S: Alister.. Banana Islands got me craving RAINBOW ISLANDS SO BAD... ITS COOL (if slightly slow).

+---------------------------------------------------------+
| *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS ***   ---    Jamie Bentley       |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
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| Pro-Music for Amiga                                     |
| Creator Of **COMMAND UNTIL CRUSHED**                    |
| 3D modeling and anything required...                    |
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:23:50 +0200 (MET DST)
From: morten.bolstad@login.eunet.no (mortenbo)
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Subject: Text&Gfx problem.
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Hello.

My name is Morten Bolstad.

I haven't been online in quite some time, but now i have a little Amos
problem that i hope some of you can help me with:

When i print the first page of text it all look's fine, but when i print the
second page with text i have to use screen copy to get a fresh background
without page 1 on it.
That doesent look very good when you change page, so my question is:

Is there another way to do it so i can  fade the text on page one away and
print the next page without affecting the GFX in the background in any way?

The background has 5-10 colours and the colour used on the text isent used
in the background.
The screen is 16 colour Hires.

To make it short: i need a way to make text disapear smooth (fade) over a
background with many colours.

I hope there is someone that that can help me with this anoying problem.


Morten Bolstad.


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Hiya all,

Mat  is  leaving  CU  Amiga  for pastures new and there is yet another
vacancy  at cu for staff writers :) I know this has nothing to do with
Amos or the list, but I feel you should know about this...

Andy Gibson....

(This  has  nothing to do with me! Please do NOT reply to myself. It's
CU Amiga you want to send messages to...(see below for email address)


On 14-Oct-97, mat@cu-amiga.co.uk scribbled:

Attention please, this is a very important annoucement.

CU Amiga Magazine, the world's best Amiga Magazine, is looking to recruit a
Staff Writer. The key responsibility will involve writing well-informed
and authoratative copy designed to inform and excite Amiga enthusiasts
world wide.

The successful applicant would need to be an Amiga god, greatly familiar
with the platform on a technical footing. Addition specific interests and
expertise in software genres such as 3D rendering, DTP, programming and
business packages would be required (though not necessarily those specific
genres). Knowledge of the major players in the Amiga scene both in hardware
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Experience in journalism is not essential but is highly prized. Certainly
potential candidates should be fluent with English structure and grammar
and be able to maintain a clear easy to understand train of thought.
Other skills that would be highly prized include the ability to compile
coverdisks and knowledge of HTML to help maintain the CU Online web site.

If you fancy turning your hobby into a career then send your CV and
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That's my job
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Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote:

>      A couple of questions....
>      i) Is there an Amos extension that supports Midi? 
>      ii) Has anyone on the list written any Midi routines using Amos? 
>      iii) Where can I get some technical documentation on how to address
>           Midi hardware?

i) 
Nah, but you can put MIDI in OctaMed & use Med Midi On

ii)
Rem Exec 'run "mydrive:tripleplayplus/other sequencers/triple play
plus"' 
'only if you've got B&P Triple Play - run once, then re-Rem

Serial Open 0,0 : Serial Speed 0,31250
Serial Bits 0,8,1 : Serial Parity 0,-1 : Serial X 0,-1
Wait Vbl
For N=0 To 12
Serial Send 0,Chr$($90)+Chr$(N+60)+Chr$(127)
wait 5
Serial Send 0,Chr$($80)+Chr$(N+60)+Chr$(0)
Next
'Play a chromatic scale from C5 to C6
Serial Send 0,Chr$($B0)+Chr$(123)+Chr$(0) : Wait Vbl
'Send all notes off to be safe
Repeat : Until Serial Check(0)
Serial Close 0

iii)
All you need are the MIDI codes (all 8 bit)

email me privately if you have probs

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Greetings.

> Didn't you get the fixed file I sent you?  It was through my dad's
> account.  If it got goofed up, I'll send it again.

Nope, didn't get it. Please send it again. Thanks.

Advertising (n): the science of arresting the human
intelligence for long enough to get money from it.

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
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Greetings.

> Didn't you get the fixed file I sent you?  It was through my dad's
> account.  If it got goofed up, I'll send it again.

Nope, didn't get it. Please send it again. Thanks.

Book (n): a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the TV repairman.

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:48:10 +1000
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 How do I savea certain sentence of speech (from the say command) out as a n IFF sample?
 
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS ***   ---    Jamie Bentley       |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Pro-Animation/Gfx/ANY SYSTEM                            |
| Pro-Music for Amiga                                     |
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| 3D modeling and anything required...                    |
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Hi, I`m new to this list and I thought I`d introduce myself.

I`m Mark Harman, and I`m looking for article writers for my diskmag
DoubleClick (DC). Just email me if you`re interested, or if you have
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DC is freeware, and covers mainly Amiga computing, although we except
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Hope to hear from lots of you,

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As far as I( can tell, the FTP site is up and running again. Please take a
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When using the GUI extension, is it possible to open an ASL requester
on an AMOS screen? I've just installed the extension and this is the
only command that I'm really interested in...


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On 16-Oct-97, Andrew Hawkins wrote:
>> Once you've finished, hand it off to someone to look at optimization
>> and speedups.
>Ermm, when I`ve finished the demo should I pass it on in compiled format
>or Amos format.

For the betatesters, a compiled version. For other IAPA members who can help
with optimization, AMOS script.

>  How have you planned to link all the games together.

They will all go into one large executable. That's why the code for your level
should be 50k or under.

Well met and godspeed,
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     I will try to explain this the best I can so bear with me
     
     I am trying to copy a memory block of 256 bytes from one address to 
     another using the following line of code which is causing my system to 
     crash.
     
     Copy Start(SBNK)+Val(SVCE$(SMZ)),Start(SBNK)+Val(SVCE$(SMZ))+256 to 
     Start(20)
     
     where SBNK is either 10 or 11 and SMZ ranges from 1 to 128
     
     At one stage when I ran the program where SBNK is 10 and SMZ is 1 I 
     got the following values
     
     Copy 1225400,1225656 to Start(20)
     
     The same line of code in direct mode does not crash and works fine but 
     when run through my program it crashes.
     
     I went stepped through everything to verify that I was getting valid 
     values for both SBNK and SMZ and every time they were valid.
     
     Can anyone see any obvious errors with my code or approach.  Any help 
     or advice would be appreciated.
     
     
     Declan.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Joseph Hewitt, who did
thus comment on GUI Extension ASL commands on the night of 16-Oct-97:
-> When using the GUI extension, is it possible to open an ASL requester
-> on an AMOS screen? I've just installed the extension and this is the
-> only command that I'm really interested in...

No, its not possible at all to have it open on an AMOS screen. This would
meean a complete rewrite of the filerequester module which comes with AMOSPro.

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On 16-Okt-97, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com smashed the keyboard with:
>     
>     I will try to explain this the best I can so bear with me
>     
>     I am trying to copy a memory block of 256 bytes from one address to 
>     another using the following line of code which is causing my system to 
>     crash.
>     
>     Copy Start(SBNK)+Val(SVCE$(SMZ)),Start(SBNK)+Val(SVCE$(SMZ))+256 to 
>     Start(20)
>     
>     where SBNK is either 10 or 11 and SMZ ranges from 1 to 128
>     
>     At one stage when I ran the program where SBNK is 10 and SMZ is 1 I 
>     got the following values
>     
>     Copy 1225400,1225656 to Start(20)
>     
>     The same line of code in direct mode does not crash and works fine but 
>     when run through my program it crashes.
>     
>     I went stepped through everything to verify that I was getting valid 
>     values for both SBNK and SMZ and every time they were valid.
>     

Uhh, this is a bit of a long-shot, but try to calculate the val's outside
of the command.. (something like: wa=val(svce$(n)) and then use the variable
in the copy command, don't know why it happens, but by putting a break down
after the 'val' you can at least see what part goes wrong (I'm suspecting 
the VAL very much as the Copy command never gives me any problems at all).

Here's a few check-points for your help, but you proberly know them..

.. 'Copy' MUST use EVEN adresses, be very sure about this !!!
.. 'VAL' sometimes screws up when encountering strange char's, so make sure
   that the string starts right out with a valid number. Also be sure that
   the number is terminated by either a 'normal' char (A-Z,a-z) or space or
   the end of the string..
.. Have you tried to enter the numbers directly in the copy command ??

NB: The EVEN adresses on Copy should only apply to 68000->68020 CPU's, 
    newer ones SHOULD be able to cope with uneven (Havn't tried it)..

-- 
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On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Jamie Bentley wrote:

>  How do I savea certain sentence of speech (from the say command) out as an
>  IFF sample?
>  
>       ***************************** Mail me and you'll
>       * sniper@technet2000.com.au * get a reply :)
>       ***************************** (Obviously.. Derr)
> 
Don't really now, but you could try playing it to tape, and then sampling
the tape.  Please use the return key when you are typing.

Eric Hyland
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I have been thinking of writing this Amos TO AmigaE converter.
Is there any interest or am I waisting my time????

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Lee Atkins.
L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK

IRC nick : EMBWBAM
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> Yo Sniper,  don't wanna pester you, but did you get a chance
>                   to look at the screen I sent you?
> 
>  I would be more than happy to give you some graphics... Just send the
> pic right over and give a breif description of how many colours the
> game is in (16,32,64 (64 is good (for amos))).
> 
>  What theme, and how big you want the guys :)
> 
>  *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS ***
> 
>  JAMIE BENTLEY
> 
>  =B^)

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From: morten.bolstad@login.eunet.no (mortenbo)
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Hello!

My name is Morten Bolstad and right now i'am working on a brand new Scene
DiscMag called "Retro", but i have reached a stage in the code that
leave's me with 3 Major problems, so i hope there are some cool guy's that
will bother to help me!


1. I have tryed for days to get the Text view'er i have included as an
   attachment to Unscramble the text with the Mem unscramble command from
   the Craft Extension without any luck.

   So maybee one of you can include it to the text Source for me, so it
   unscrables the text file before it is view'ed.
   I have included a smaal text file witch is scrambled with the Mem scramble
   command, so you can check if it works. The code for unscrambling the file
   is AMOS


2. When page one of the text is printed over the background, i have to use
   Screen copy to clear the text, before i can print the next page of text.
   This doesent look very nice at all when you change page, so i am wondeing
   if there is another way to do this without affecting the background,
   that is more smooth, like a fade or something??

   If you also helped me with the first question, and want to help me with
   this to, you will find the Screen copy that needs to be changed with
   something bether around line 7 in the DisplayPage Procedure.
   Maybee you could include this to into the text rutine.


3. This question doesen't have anything to do with the Text rutine as the 2
   questions before, but it's something i need for the Diskmag.

   I use the Text command to print the Main menu over the background and i
   use Set zone and Mouse Zone to define zones around the diffrent article
   names, so you can select a artlicle by clicking on the article name.

   I need a way to change the colour on the text that is inside a
   zone when the mouse comes over it.
   Lets say that the colour on the article names is gray.
   When the mouse pointer comes inside the zone to article name one,
   i want the colour on article name one to change to white without changing
   the colour on the other article names, and when the mouse pointer moves
   back out of the zone the colour is changed back to Gray.
   Is there a Way to do this??


4. I haven't been Online all summer becos of various reasons, but i dident
   close my accaunt, so when i grabed my E-Mail's last weekend there were
   over 1300 mails from this list and a couple of other i am Subscribed to.
   So i only bothered to read a few of them, but i am a bit confused abouth
   the AGA situation for AMOS.
   I read something abouth a AGA extension called JADE and a Game Extension
   witch would handle AGA.
   So i am wondering, what is the latest news abouth AGA for Amos, Are Jade
   out or some other AGA extension???
   Also, will i finally be able to use 32 or 64 colours in Hires on my
   Music Disk and DiskMag???


Ok, i really hope there is some cool Amos coder's on this list that can help
me.
If you only can help me with one or two of the questions i'am happy to hear
from you aswell, all help is good help.

I know it maybee a bit much to ask, but i would be really grait if the one
that desides to help me can finnish by Wednesday, so i can reach the deadline.

Those who help me with question 1-3 will ofcos get credit for their work in
every issue we use the code in, and i can personally E-Mail it to you as soon
as it is finnished if you want me to.

By helping me you will also help the Amiga Scene to get a new production
And you will feel grait too!

So come on!!


Greetings From:

Morten Bolstad

morten.bolstad@login.eunet.no

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        Hi,
I want to buy your AGA Extension. But I need some information for paying
(Visa or your bank no) and shipping/handling. Maybe you can send it
with EMail. But is this Extension have any printed manuel or other
physical items? And lostly; if your election is the Visa card then I need
your fax number for security..

        Country; Turkiye
        City   ; Istanbul
        EMail  ; Kal13@unforgettable.com


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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:45:15 -0000
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On 19-Oct-97, Mr. Giark To You scribbled:

>Send mail to the list to try to get these silly bastards working.

I  don't  think  that kind of attitude will motivate anyone! I'm quite
sure  I  wouldn't  like  someone calling me a `silly bastard' if I had
spent  weeks  working on a level for a game and was just maybe putting
the final touches to it before sending it to you.

I  wouldn't  be surprised if half the guys NEVER send you their levels
now :(

Whatever possessed you to type such a thing...?

Mr Angry 

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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:10:03 +0200 (MET DST)
From: morten.bolstad@login.eunet.no (mortenbo)
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Subject: DiskMag-Help-Pleezzz!!!
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Hello!

My name is Morten Bolstad and right now i'am working on a brand new Scene
DiscMag called "Retro", but i have reached a stage in the code that
leave's me with 3 Major problems, so i hope there are some cool guy's that
will bother to help me!


1. I have tryed for days to get the Text view'er i have included as an
   attachment to Unscramble the text with the Mem unscramble command from
   the Craft Extension without any luck.

   So maybee one of you can include it to the text Source for me, so it
   unscrables the text file before it is view'ed.
   I have included a smaal text file witch is scrambled with the Mem scramble
   command, so you can check if it works. The code for unscrambling the file
   is AMOS


2. When page one of the text is printed over the background, i have to use
   Screen copy to clear the text, before i can print the next page of text.
   This doesent look very nice at all when you change page, so i am wondeing
   if there is another way to do this without affecting the background,
   that is more smooth, like a fade or something??

   If you also helped me with the first question, and want to help me with
   this to, you will find the Screen copy that needs to be changed with
   something bether around line 7 in the DisplayPage Procedure.
   Maybee you could include this to into the text rutine.


3. This question doesen't have anything to do with the Text rutine as the 2
   questions before, but it's something i need for the Diskmag.

   I use the Text command to print the Main menu over the background and i
   use Set zone and Mouse Zone to define zones around the diffrent article
   names, so you can select a artlicle by clicking on the article name.

   I need a way to change the colour on the text that is inside a
   zone when the mouse comes over it.
   Lets say that the colour on the article names is gray.
   When the mouse pointer comes inside the zone to article name one,
   i want the colour on article name one to change to white without changing
   the colour on the other article names, and when the mouse pointer moves
   back out of the zone the colour is changed back to Gray.
   Is there a Way to do this??


4. I haven't been Online all summer becos of various reasons, but i dident
   close my accaunt, so when i grabed my E-Mail's last weekend there were
   over 1300 mails from this list and a couple of other i am Subscribed to.
   So i only bothered to read a few of them, but i am a bit confused abouth
   the AGA situation for AMOS.
   I read something abouth a AGA extension called JADE and a Game Extension
   witch would handle AGA.
   So i am wondering, what is the latest news abouth AGA for Amos, Are Jade
   out or some other AGA extension???
   Also, will i finally be able to use 32 or 64 colours in Hires on my
   Music Disk and DiskMag???


Ok, i really hope there is some cool Amos coder's on this list that can help
me.
If you only can help me with one or two of the questions i'am happy to hear
from you aswell, all help is good help.

I know it maybee a bit much to ask, but i would be really grait if the one
that desides to help me can finnish by Wednesday, so i can reach the deadline.

Those who help me with question 1-3 will ofcos get credit for their work in
every issue we use the code in, and i can personally E-Mail it to you as soon
as it is finnished if you want me to.

By helping me you will also help the Amiga Scene to get a new production
And you will feel grait too!

So come on!!


Greetings From:

Morten Bolstad

morten.bolstad@login.eunet.no

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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:10:10 -0500
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If you hadn't guessed, support for the game has fallen off. Of the five level
coders, only one has bothered to send an update. This is quite disturbing.
Send mail to the list to try to get these silly bastards working.
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Oct 19 23:16:55 1997
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To: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:55:52 +0500
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X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library
Subject: Re: CBATNAM
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Mr. Giark To You, who
did thus comment on CBATNAM on the night of 19-Oct-97:

-> If you hadn't guessed, support for the game has fallen off. Of the five
level
-> coders, only one has bothered to send an update. This is quite disturbing.
-> Send mail to the list to try to get these silly bastards working.

Eh, cuntybollocks, I sent you a small yet uncompleted version of the high
scores routine. Or is this one coder me, by any chance? Who knows...

Oh yeah, the tapes arrived in my mailbox today. That plastic case you sent
them in was smashed to bits tho. 

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Andy Gibson, who did
thus comment on Re: CBATNAM on the night of 19-Oct-97:
-> On 19-Oct-97, Mr. Giark To You scribbled:

-> >Send mail to the list to try to get these silly bastards working.

-> I  don't  think  that kind of attitude will motivate anyone! I'm quite
-> sure  I  wouldn't  like  someone calling me a `silly bastard' if I had
-> spent  weeks  working on a level for a game and was just maybe putting
-> the final touches to it before sending it to you.

-> I  wouldn't  be surprised if half the guys NEVER send you their levels
-> now :(

-> Whatever possessed you to type such a thing...?

I agree, such terrible terrible nonsence. You should have used a much more
violent word, like git, or ungratefull worms, hehe

I agree with giark, unless he really pushes us, we wouldnt be arsed to do
anything much.

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I have sent a small demo of my morphing routine to Mr. Giark himself, so
there is no quibbling that I havent sent my piece. It should be up on the
list game page within a short time. Some notes about it:

1) Firstly, it just scrolls from A - Z on its own. I have yet to implant
   some routines to go within the morphing sequence.

2) The morphing isnt the best it can be just yet. I removed an algorythm
   which calculates the exact number of pixels to move each axis for every
   frame of morphing. This ensures that all axis finish at the exact same
   time, and your not waiting for others to finsh.

3) The rotation routine I wrote myself is being updated to rotate multiple
   arrays at once, so I can physically control more than one object on the
   screen at once. When implemented, the morphing letters will also rotate.

4) If you look at the first 3 letters, you will see they morph in a
   different way than the rest. This process I call "Data Switching" to
   trick the system into thinking its starting points are at some other
   location. I havent had time to switch the other letters yet, but I will
   work on that for the next release.

If anyone has any questions/comments/suggestions then please feel free to
contact me. If you want the file mailed to you personally, just ask.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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With me getting a contract from F1 software to become an official US
distributor for all of its software, there are some other titles which I
would like to host (AMOS Orientated) for the authors, for no, or as little
cost as possible. If anyone can provide me with any information on the
following, please get in touch with me, or encourage the authors to:

Turbo Extension - Chris Hodges?
AMCAF Extension - Chris Hodges
Falcon Extension - Laurie Curwood
AMOS/AMOSPro 3D Extension
Powerbobs
CRAFT
JADE (If it ever becomes available)
The Game Extension - Peter Cahill

Thats all the extensions I can think of off hand which need to be
registered. JWindows is part of F1 anyhow, so I will have that.

What I hope to do, is sell the extensions through my homepages and
contacts via a credit card account, so anyone in the world can order them
at any time. The money received will then be transferred to your own credit
card, minus any small charges such as disks+postage etc. One other thing I
*dont* want to do with this scheme, is make the extension only available
from my homepages. You could be selling it yourself, or with 50 other
companies. I just want to make the product available to the user immediately.

I also hope to take on a whole new horde of AMOS titles as licenseware, as
I have been showered with interest since this deal with Phil Wilkinson. If
you have any licenseware-quality tiles which you would like to submit - and
I *know* there are some good ones out there (GeoSync Media, still
interested?) then I would like it if you got in touch with me so I can
discuss the licenseware profits which Mushroom PD/F1 Software USA is offering.

Keep your eyes out for my adverts appearing in Amiga Format, Amazing Amiga,
and Amiga Computing very soon!!

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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I have uploaded some 100Mb of raycaster goodies, demos, and sources to my
FTP site off my CD ROM collections in the drawer /pub/raycast

Please feel free to call in, and download anything you feel you might need.

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Subject: Re: SOUND help
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 23:14:16 -0400
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> How do I save a certain sentence of speech (from the say command)
> out as an IFF sample?

   I think you are confusing the two... 

   The Say command uses a synthetic speech system to actually speak
   the words you enter in a string. Due to the fact that the speech is
   entirely synthetic based on vocal sounds/phonetics the quality is
   obviously poor compared to that of an actual human (well most humans
   anyway).

   An IFF sample is produced by actually recording a sound. This sound
   can be anything from a bird chirping to a person speaking. Due to
   the sound-data being record in real-time and stored in digital format,
   the sound quality is entirely dependant upon the frequency of the
   sampling rate. Personally, I have found that a frequency of 11,000-
   12,000K captures speech at a quality good enough for use in
   games and such.

   You can hear such speech (recorded at 11,500K) in the SideShooter
   Demo6 which is currently available from the CBATNAM webpage...


   Anyway, I can't quite see why you would want to convert the
   synthetic speech to a sample, but I assume it is because you do not
   have access to a sound-sampler correct?

   If this is the case, just e-mail me a list of the speech samples you
   need and I will record a few for you.  The quality will be MUCH better
   and I don't know how you could convert the Synthetic speech to a
   sample as I have never tried to do this before.

   Of course, it's certainly possible (nearly everything is) and if you had
   a thorough understanding of the narrator.device then you could
   probably grab each word as the data was being passed to Paula.  A
   better method might be to create your own synthetic speech system,
   but unless you have a tremendous interest in this sort of thing, you'd
   be better off just having the speech sampled...


      Take  care,
      GARFIELD


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 Hi peoples :)

 What to the TD commands and the other BLAH commands do in amos, there is no help on them and I'm lost! (I want to USE Amos 3D to the limit), and  the examples do no justice (they give a stack of numbers which are obviously hardware cords, but what the hell does that mean?)
 
 Could somebody please send a comprehensive text file or list of how to use the stupid commands?

 Thanks.

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Im sending this to the list, as I kept getting it returned to me as a bad
email address:

The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Martin Karlsson, who
did thus comment on AMOS Compiler? on the night of 20-Oct-97:
-> Hi Mush!

-> My name is Martin Karlsson and is a member of the AMOS-list. I have been
-> waiting for a long time to buy the Compiler, but it have not been for sale
-> here in Sweden, just Blitz 2.1 :-(
-> So when I read your mail about the compiler I thougt it would be a perfect
way
-> to support the greatest site on the net. What I mean is that I really want
to
-> buy the Compiler from you! But I have some questions:

Yes, ive seen your postings to the list. Im glad you like my site, im
making some large changes very soon, but dont know what to do exactly. Any
ideas?

-> 1. How much will it cost me to order the Compiler from you and have it send
to
-> Sweden?

OK, according to my notebook (I converted the US Amount to almost every
currency) it will cost around 147.50 Krona. That is for the compiler, and
the postage costs.

-> 2. Can I pay with VISA?

Hmm, I can arrange it for you. Id need a day or 2 extra to work on that
one. I get get my boss (phil wilkinson) to make the transaction through his
F1 Software accounts.

Note that the cost may be a little higher with a visa card. This is not
because of me, but the charges the bank will make on you for currency
conversion and such.

-> 3. If not, how do you prefer payments?

I dont see a problem with the credit card. If there is, I shall let you know.

-> Thanks for a great site, and excuse my poor knowledge in english!

Thanks, and dont worry about the english, even we cant speak it sometimes!

-> bobba@mailbox.hogia.net  (I will soon have my AMOS-page running!)    

Cool! Send me the URL when you have finished it!

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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TO MUSH!

Hi mush, i tried sending you the beta version but my mail to you bouces of...
is this problem with me or with you?
Could you please check this for me?

Greetz, Michel Bijlsma.


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On 18-Oct-97, Andy Gibson wrote:
>I  don't  think  that kind of attitude will motivate anyone! I'm quite
>sure  I  wouldn't  like  someone calling me a `silly bastard' if I had

Consider yourself called.

>spent  weeks  working on a level for a game and was just maybe putting
>the final touches to it before sending it to you.

How about ignoring several polite mails reminding the coders about the
deadline and such being ignored? Would you like that?

>I  wouldn't  be surprised if half the guys NEVER send you their levels
>now :(

I would. Most of the coders actually HAVE a sense of humour.

>Whatever possessed you to type such a thing...?

Hmm, being ignored by the coders? Having deadline after deadline missed?
Watching the momentum of the project begin to wane? Next time, you should
actually know what the situation is before you start piping up.

Well met and godspeed,
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On 19-Oct-97, Adam Parrott wrote:
>> Of the five level coders, only one has bothered to send an update. 
>"Who is this imbecile? Come! Kneel before Zod!" - Superman II

Heh. Garf's Space Attack level is the only update in more than a month.

>hehe, whoa! Watch who you call a bastard, or else I'm outta here. No, 
>just kidding.

Look at that. The coders knew I was kidding. Huh.

>which really aren't that half bad, if I can figure them out). I'll 
>compile those and send them to you as soon as possible. Later Benito.

Good to hear.

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On 19-Oct-97, James Brown wrote:
>Silly Bastards? Well, if your going to be like THAT! :-).

That wacky guy who does Bubba's voice is silliest of all. Q8-{)

>Unfortunatly Peter (Cahill) has the latest source for Bubbas Bubbles,
>and he hasnt awnsered any of my emails in the last fortnight.
>I'll keep on his back though.

Okay, keep on coding.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 19-Oct-97, Mush wrote:
>Eh, cuntybollocks, I sent you a small yet uncompleted version of the high
>scores routine. Or is this one coder me, by any chance? Who knows...

Yes, but you said it was not for the list page. I shall put the new one up
today.

>Oh yeah, the tapes arrived in my mailbox today. That plastic case you sent
>them in was smashed to bits tho. 

That's why I put them in it. Mail carriers are not the kindest to packages
wrapped in newspaper.

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                      Giark
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On 19-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>   What is the final deadline? I know we want this out for the
>   all-important Christmas sales, but what exactly is the deadline for
>   submitting the stage-sources to you?

Probably November 20. Then I'll have ten days to put it all together and make
it work and pass it to the others for optimization and such.

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     Do any of you guys have a sample of a screeching eagle.  You know the 
     one you hear in the old wild west films when someone is lot in the 
     desert.  Thanks in advance.
     
     
     Declan.

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On 20-Oct-97, Mr. Giark To You scribbled:

>On 18-Oct-97, Andy Gibson wrote:
>>I  don't  think  that kind of attitude will motivate anyone! I'm quite
>>sure  I  wouldn't  like  someone calling me a `silly bastard' if I had

>Consider yourself called.

Back at ya....

>>spent  weeks  working on a level for a game and was just maybe putting
>>the final touches to it before sending it to you.

>How about ignoring several polite mails reminding the coders about the
>deadline and such being ignored? Would you like that?

I  know  how  ya  feel  m8.  I had the same probs with contributors to
Amoszine! There's just no talking to somee peeps!

>>I  wouldn't  be surprised if half the guys NEVER send you their levels
>>now :(

>I would. Most of the coders actually HAVE a sense of humour.

My  email was actually supposed to be humrous, Hmmmm. Soz if ya picked
me up wrong, maybe a few ascii faces would have helped ;

I  was  being sarcastic actually. Isn't it a pisser when peeps pick ya
up all wrong?

>>Whatever possessed you to type such a thing...?

>Hmm, being ignored by the coders? Having deadline after deadline missed?
>Watching the momentum of the project begin to wane? Next time, you should
>actually know what the situation is before you start piping up.

Get off ya hi horse m8!

No ones piping up! Only you. Simmer down and go to a slow boil...

As for the situation....do the coders even know what it is? Maybe lack
of  communication is to blame? Bad workmen always blame their tools ya
know :

Toodlepoops

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From: morten.bolstad@login.eunet.no (mortenbo)
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Subject: Hello!
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Hello!

Is there anyone out there in Cyberspace getting this??


I have sent several mail's to the Amos List and Mushroom PD without
getting any reply at all.

Pleease let me know if you get this!


Morten.bolstad@login.eunet.no


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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was mortenbo, who did thus
comment on Hello! on the night of 20-Oct-97:
-> Hello!

-> Is there anyone out there in Cyberspace getting this??


-> I have sent several mail's to the Amos List and Mushroom PD without
-> getting any reply at all.

-> Pleease let me know if you get this!

I got the messages, im working on a solution for you. Ill let you know when
I have it.

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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:44:41 -0500
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'As requested, here is my set of CD32 Pad procedures. Feel free to use them
'for your own programs. The CD32 Pad procedure uses the same values as the
'Joy(X) command for the CD32_TEXT procedure, which allows you to use a
'standard joystick for entry as well.

'Test the test entry procedure

Locate 0,0 : Print "Up/Down to select, Left to delete, Right to enter, Fire
when done"

CD32_TEXT[8,32,20] : TXT$=Param$

Print "text entered: ";TXT$
Wait 60

'Test the CD32 buttons

Do
PAD : CD32=Param
Clw : Home
If CD32 and 1 Then Print "Up ";
If CD32 and 2 Then Print "Down ";
If CD32 and 4 Then Print "Left ";
If CD32 and 8 Then Print "Right ";
If CD32 and 16 Then Print "Red ";
If CD32 and 32 Then Print "Blue ";
If CD32 and 64 Then Print "Green ";
If CD32 and 128 Then Print "Yellow ";
If CD32 and 256 Then Print "Rewind ";
If CD32 and 512 Then Print "Fast Forward ";
If CD32 and 1024 Then Print "Pause ";
Loop

Procedure PAD
PAD:
CD=0 : CD32=0
Lib Open 3,"lowlevel.library",40
Dreg(0)=1
CD=Lib Call(3,-30)
If CD and 1 Then CD32=CD32+%1000 : Rem Right
If CD and 2 Then CD32=CD32+%100 : Rem Left
If CD and 4 Then CD32=CD32+%10 : Rem Down
If CD and 8 Then CD32=CD32+%1 : Rem Up
If CD and 131072 Then CD32=CD32+%10000000000 : Rem Pause
If CD and 262144 Then CD32=CD32+%100000000 : Rem Rewind
If CD and 524288 Then CD32=CD32+%1000000000 : Rem Fast Forward
If CD and 1048576 Then CD32=CD32+%1000000 : Rem Green
If CD and 2097152 Then CD32=CD32+%10000000 : Rem Yellow
If CD and 4194304 Then CD32=CD32+%10000 : Rem Red
If CD and 8388608 Then CD32=CD32+%100000 : Rem Blue
Lib Close 3
End Proc[CD32]

Procedure CD32_TEXT[TX,TY,IN]
CHAR$="" : CHAR=0 : A$="" : IN$="" : PAD=0

'You can add characters to the set by including them in CHAR$

CHAR$="abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ,.!?() 1234567890"
CHAR=1
Curs Off 
CD32:

'If you have added characters, make sure the 69 is set to the length of
'your character string.

If CHAR<1 Then CHAR=69
If CHAR>69 Then CHAR=1
A$=Mid$(CHAR$,CHAR,1)
B$=IN$+A$+" "
Ink 7,0 : Text TX,TY,B$
CD32A:
Do : PAD=0 : PAD : PAD=Param : If PAD=0 Then Loop

'To use a joystick instead, replace the above line with:
'Do : PAD=Joy(0) : If PAD=0 Then Loop

If Len(IN$)=IN Then Goto CD32A
If PAD and 2 Then CHAR=CHAR-1 : Wait 5 : Goto CD32
If PAD and 1 Then CHAR=CHAR+1 : Wait 5 : Goto CD32
If PAD and 16
 IN$=IN$+A$
 Text TX,TY,IN$
 Goto CD32B
End If 
If PAD and 4 Then IN$=Left$(IN$,Len(IN$)-1) : Wait 15 : Goto CD32
If PAD and 8 Then IN$=IN$+A$ : Wait 10 : Goto CD32
Goto CD32A
CD32B:
End Proc[IN$]

'TX and TY are graphic coordinates for the text. IN is the allowed length of
'the string to be entered. The text procedure returns the string as a
parameter
'and uses the PAD procedure for its input.

'Up  scrolls forward through the character set. Down scrolls back through the
'character set. Left deletes the current character. Right moves to the next
'character. Red (Fire) ends input.
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                           joehick@golden.net
                             http://www.golden.net/~joehick/fbn/index.html
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Okay, the latest high score morph is up, as well as a beta testers form.
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                           joehick@golden.net
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   Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      !  FBN Amiga 500 020 14MHz 1C/5F RAM 3.1OS !
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Subject: Re: CBATNAM
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:30:39 -0400
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>> Of the five level coders, only one has bothered to send an update. 
>"Who is this imbecile? Come! Kneel before Zod!" - Superman II

   Me... imbecile?  Haha... Speaking of Superman, I hear there is a new
   big-budget movie in the works...
 

> Heh. Garf's Space Attack level is the only update in more than a month.

   I think I'll have to be the one to break the bad news... apparently,
   Adam and the others have all purchased IBM-clones and are now
   busy developing their stages in VisualBasic...

   Seriously, I'm sure the others will agree with me that once we complete
   this first CBATNAM list-game, the next one will be a hell of a lot
   easier and faster to develop.

   I don't do a lot of AMOS-programming, so had to create many small
   utilities and support-procedures to get the thing "off the ground".
   Next time we will have all of our development tools/libraries already
   created, so development will be considerably faster!!

   In the interest of speeding up the CBATNAM-development, I will
   archive all the utilities and support-routines I've made for the
   sideshooter and then submit this to Giark sometime within the next
   couple days...

   Some things you won't need, some you'll think "Hell, I could do that
   myself in 10 minutes, and better too!", but the whole point is not that
   I think no one else can make these things, I'm not THAT arrogant,
   the point is that you won't need to waste 15 minutes here and 20
   minutes there as you'll already have access to these tools and 
   routines...

   If all the stage-programmers did this, there should be a massive pool
   of development-tools and routines up there saving each of us loads
   of time!!!!
 

      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 5% Complete


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> ...Bad workmen always blame their tools ya know :

   Yes, tis often said that only a poor workman blames his tools, but in
   practice you must admit that the tools make a BIG difference...

   For example: If you and I were competing to see who could pound the
   most nails into some boards within a certain amount of time, surely
   with me using a hammer and you using your head or fist, chances are
   I would easily win... :-)

   Haha... you do have a valid point though. Pure skill can take you far
   and I suppose a VERY skilled person could easily win in the above
   competition by simply using a rock or even piece of wood, but the
   point is we are all limited to a degree by our tools. Some of us can
   just do more with less, but give the expert the hammer and then you
   can see just how much of a difference it really makes...


   Wondering what the point of this e-mail is? To be honest, so am I...


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 5% Complete


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On 20-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:

>   I think I'll have to be the one to break the bad news... apparently,
>   Adam and the others have all purchased IBM-clones and are now
>   busy developing their stages in VisualBasic...

Just in case someone doesn't know I think I'll tell you a little 'bout
VisualBasic...

- It SUCKS! Writing a utility -ok, writing a game - NO WAY!

- It doesn't handle graphics at all and certainly not the moving ones!

- It's like coding in AmigaBasic again...

-- 
rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk
                    - reality is not what it used to be...


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Greetings.

> Me... imbecile?  Haha... Speaking of Superman, I hear there is a
> new big-budget movie in the works...

hehe, well, not directly. I didn't know that YOU were the one to whom 
Giark was referring (I might have said it anyway! hehe)

But anyhow, you are right about that new Superman movie (it's going 
to hopefully half-way based on the Life and Death of Superman novel, 
heh). They've had MANY a problem with it though (including 
casting), and no one right now knows when it will be out.

Book (n): a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the TV repairman.

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft

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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
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On 19-Oct-97, Andy Gibson wrote:
>>>I  wouldn't  be surprised if half the guys NEVER send you their levels
>>>now :(
>>I would. Most of the coders actually HAVE a sense of humour.
>My  email was actually supposed to be humrous, Hmmmm. Soz if ya picked
>me up wrong, maybe a few ascii faces would have helped ;

Didn't come off that way. I'm not the only one who thought so, but no harm
done as far as I can see.

>As for the situation....do the coders even know what it is? Maybe lack
>of  communication is to blame? Bad workmen always blame their tools ya
>know :

Ya, they do. I've sent private mail to them all several times.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 21-Oct-97, Andrew Hawkins wrote:
>I`m just wondering how you plan to put all these levels together.  Will
>they be compiled separately and call each other or what?

It will be one large executable, hence the 50k code limit for each stage.
(Remember, that is only the source code, not the wgraphics/sound files.)

>I have never got the 3d lib to work with AmosPro so my Gates Of Doom
>level may cause problems.

You have to use the AMOSPro_3d.lib that comes with the pro disks. It may have
been a 2.0 addition, but it does work with AP.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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Hello Folx!

I havent been online in quite a while.
So i dident remember the rule abouth not sending large files to the list.

I'am really sorry if the attachment i sent with my questions last weekend
made any trouble for you guy's with slow modem's.
I'll be sure to ask if anybody is interested in getting the attachment
file and send it strait to their E-Mail Addy in the future.

Morten Bolstad.


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>>>I have never got the 3d lib to work with AmosPro so my Gates Of Doom
>>>level may cause problems.
>
>>You have to use the AMOSPro_3d.lib that comes with the pro disks. It may
>>have
>>been a 2.0 addition, but it does work with AP.
It comes with any AMOSPro, but it's on one of the Productivity disks, I
>think.

	- J. Templeton

	- Realm Productions

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On 21-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin scribbled:
>> ...Bad workmen always blame their tools ya know :

>Yes, tis often said that only a poor workman blames his tools, but in
>practice you must admit that the tools make a BIG difference...

What  I  was getting at was Giark was blaming the guys for not getting
their levels in on time. I said it could be a communication problem on
his  part.  In other words, he's the bad workman blaming his tools for
doing a bad job.

If Giark want's to be God, he has to act like one :)

Calling  peeps  `silly  bastards' won't get him far. It may just be in
fun  (and  so  is  this  email  before God starts flaming me), but why
bother shouting if nobody is listening?

Here's a poser for you....

What  if Giark doesn't get all the levels sent to him by the deadline?
Does  that mean the game will be scrapped and all the hard work by the
others is wasted? Has anyone thought of this...?

How  many  levels  will actually be plaayable enough to include in the
final game? I just hope the guys working on the game know what they're
letting themselves in for.

>From  what  I  gather, the game sounds good and so far everyone who is
working  on it seems to be doing well, but then again, what do I know?
I've never seen anything from it!

I'd  love  to and give my comments and suggestions. It's all very well
the coders saying their level is the best coded jobby, but is it?

Could  Giark  maybe give us a listing of what is kewl and more details
on  the  game.  I'd really like to know more about it. I came onto the
list too late ya see :(

So c'mon Giark, please update us all on the progress. 

I  know  that  a  certain  person was doing some gfx for the game, but
heard  nothing  more  about  his  work  from Giark, so gave up!!! See,
communication problems once again :(

cya

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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:47:02 -0400
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>> I think I'll have to be the one to break the bad news... apparently,
>> Adam and the others have all purchased IBM-clones and are now
>> busy developing their stages in VisualBasic...
 
   > Just in case someone doesn't know I think I'll tell you a little 'bout
   > VisualBasic...
 
      Okay... Er, you people did realize I was only kidding, right?  Adam,
      Keith, Andy, James and Peter have not really switched over to
      VisualBasic IBM-clone development... I don't think! :-)


   > - It SUCKS! Writing a utility -ok, writing a game - NO WAY!
   > - It doesn't handle graphics at all and certainly not the moving ones!
   > - It's like coding in AmigaBasic again...

      I've heard these things... on the bright side, I've seen an increase 
      in the number of jobs available for VB-programmers.  No degree
      necessary, just 2-4 years VB-programming experience and you
      can start out somewhere in the $40k-$70k range...

      I know I'm "walking the plank" with this one, but any sane person
      wanting to do AMOS-like development would be well-advised to
      consider the DJGPP C/C++ compiler along with the Allegro game-
      programmer's library. Both are FREE!  On my 133MHz machine I
      can get a 10,000 star tri-layered parallax-starfield at 60fps using
      the "plot" command, so it is just a tiny bit fast as well...

      Okay, okay, THIS IS THE AMOS-LIST... I know!!  Just thought a
      bit of "outside"-info might be nice...


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 5% Complete






 

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From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" <rand@catamaran.netwave.net>
Subject: Re: DiscMag-Help
To: mortenbo <morten.bolstad@login.eunet.no>
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mortenbo digitized on 17-Oct-97 14:25:14:

> Hello!

> My name is Morten Bolstad and right now i'am working on a brand new
> Scene DiscMag called "Retro", but i have reached a stage in the code
> that leave's me with 3 Major problems, so i hope there are some cool
> guy's that will bother to help me!



> 1. I have tryed for days to get the Text view'er i have included as
-snip-

> 2. When page one of the text is printed over the background, i have
-clip-

> 3. This question doesen't have anything to do with the Text rutine
> as the 2
>    questions before, but it's something i need for the Diskmag.

>   I use the Text command to print the Main menu over the background
>   and i use Set zone and Mouse Zone to define zones around the
>   diffrent article names, so you can select a artlicle by clicking
>   on the article name.

>    I need a way to change the colour on the text that is inside a
>    zone when the mouse comes over it.
>    Lets say that the colour on the article names is gray.
>   When the mouse pointer comes inside the zone to article name one,
>   i want the colour on article name one to change to white without
>   changing the colour on the other article names, and when the mouse
>   pointer moves back out of the zone the colour is changed back to
>   Gray. Is there a Way to do this??

I can't be of any help with #1 or #2, but I have a small routine which
can do the text colors. 


> 4. I haven't been Online all summer becos of various reasons, but i
-cut-

> I know it maybee a bit much to ask, but i would be really grait if
> the one that desides to help me can finnish by Wednesday, so i can
> reach the deadline.
                                       ^- The Opposite of Norwegian :)


I know it's already Wednesday, but if you still want it I will email
it to you.

> Those who help me with question 1-3 will ofcos get credit for their
> work in every issue we use the code in, and i can personally E-Mail
> it to you as soon as it is finnished if you want me to.

> By helping me you will also help the Amiga Scene to get a new
> production And you will feel grait too!

> So come on!!

I'm trying!

> Greetings From:

> Morten Bolstad

> morten.bolstad@login.eunet.no

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From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>
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Subject: Re: CBATNAM
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:54:54 -0400
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> What  if Giark doesn't get all the levels sent to him by the deadline?
> Does  that mean the game will be scrapped and all the hard work by the
> others is wasted? Has anyone thought of this...?

   Nah, he won't scrap the project.  We'd ALL have to track him down
   and well, it wouldn't be pretty...  Besides, after all the hooting and
   work we've put into this thing as well as the work he has put into this
   project, I'm sure Mr. Giark will "stick it out".


> How  many  levels  will actually be playable enough to include in the
> final game? I just hope the guys working on the game know what they're
> letting themselves in for.

   Are you kidding?  They will ALL be playable enough to include in the
   final game!!  I don't know for sure, but judging from what I've
   come to know of these guys in the time I've been on this list, I'd
   almost be willing to bet that they are all simply busy with other
   things and/or do NOT want to send a new demo until they have 
   something that will really "knock your socks off".  That's the problem
   with developing like this.  You put something up there and people
   give you feedback, then you have to work in as many of the
   suggestions as possible while also trying to out-do your last demo,
   so instead of the development becoming easier, it actually becomes
   harder and harder with each new demo!!


> From  what  I  gather, the game sounds good and so far everyone who
> is working  on it seems to be doing well, but then again, what do I
> know? I've never seen anything from it!

   When all the demos from this next update-wave have arrived, I think
   CBATNAM will be looking VERY good indeed.

   If you are interested in checking out the demos currently available,
   just e-mail Giark and he'll sort you out.  


   --------<WHERE ARE THOSE UTILITIES?>--------

   Okay, I posted a message a few days back saying I would archive
   my utilities and submit them to Giark.  I haven't forgotten, it's just
   that I am currently working on a new utility. One that is LONG
   overdue in my opinion.

   Say what you like about BLITZ, but there is a really nice development
   tool called ShapesManager, which was given away free on a 
   magazine cover-disk last year.

   The SM contains a feature called "Auto-Grab" which allows you to
   load an IFF and the SM will automatically "scan" it and grab all
   of the images into a Shapes File (The Blitz equivalent of the AMOS
   Bobs/Icons bank).  I use the SM constantly in my BLITZ
   development just for this auto-grabbing feature!!

   I'm fed-up with that AMOS IFFgrabber, so am making my own
   AutoImageGrabber utility for AMOS.

   I've just started the design today and after two failed attempts on
   paper, I think I have the process sorted out (It's a bit tricker than it
   first appears). Anyway, if all goes to plan, I will code the AIG
   tomorrow and submit everything tomorrow tonight...

   This will be a TREMENDOUS aid in AMOS-development.  It is SO
   much easier and FASTER than manually grabbing each image,
   one-by-one!!  In fact, I really can't believe I waited this long to
   create such a utility!!!!
 

      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
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      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
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Dear Amos Group,

               I was wondering if any one could help me find a quicker way
               than this, in finding multiple bob positions.

For G=1 to 20
  For B=21 to 40

    If X bob(G)>X bob(B)-10 and X bob(G)<X bob(B)+10
    and Y bob(G)>Y bob(B)-10 and Y bob(G)<Y bob(B)+10

  next B
 next G
end if

thankyou

Aaron 


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On 22-Oct-97, Templeton, Jeremy scribbled:
>I have never got the 3d lib to work with AmosPro so my Gates Of Doom
>level may cause problems.
>You have to use the AMOSPro_3d.lib that comes with the pro disks. It may
>have been a 2.0 addition, but it does work with AP.
>It comes with any AMOSPro, but it's on one of the Productivity disks, I
>>think.
>- J. Templeton

It's  on  Productivity disk 2 in the extensions drawer. BTW Which slot
does  this use? There didn't appear to be anything in the manual about
it at all :(

I  never  knew  this file existed until I read your email. Does anyone
out  there have the full commands for Amos 3D as an asii file? I never
got  around  to  buying the manual when Amiga Computing had Amos 3D on
disk :(

Cheers in advance..




>- Realm Productions
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On 23-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin scribbled:

>   If you are interested in checking out the demos currently available,
>   just e-mail Giark and he'll sort you out.  

Is that a fact? I never knew there was a demo available to try? That's
good  news  ;)  Mr  Giark (or God as i call ya), can ya please tell me
where to download this from...? Please...I'll stop calling you names -
honest :) tee hee.

>   This will be a TREMENDOUS aid in AMOS-development.  It is SO
>   much easier and FASTER than manually grabbing each image,
>   one-by-one!!  In fact, I really can't believe I waited this long to
>   create such a utility!!!!

I already have a bob grabber. It works very easily indeed. Just draw a
box  around  your  frames and it will automatically grab them by using
the Point command. It has NEVER let me down so far.

I'm currently updating it to use a GUI instead of the nasty one I made
last year :)

When  I get mine looking kewl, I'll send you the code and you can send
me   yours   and  together  we  could  possibly  build  what  everyone
wants....the  Ultimate  Amos  Bob/Sprite/Icon  Auto Grabber.....In the
World Ever (Volume 1) ;)

Is anyone else interested in this....?

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Hiya guys,

Right, here's my problem...

I  have  installed  Easylife  1.44 and have RTFM for it (1.44.doc) but
never  saw  anything  about  the Iconify command. BTW i was told it is
still there by using:

Amos To Back
A=Eliconify Amos (xx,yy,$)
Amos To Front

Which it does :)

My problem is that it doesn't let me use Multi Wait :(

No  matter  where  I  put  Multi  Wait  (above  or below the Eliconify
command) or even in a loop, Multi Wait doesn't work!!!

Therefore this command seems sensless to me. Does anyone know of a way
to return the CPU to the system when using tis command then?

As  I said, my Easylife Doc didn't even mention this command, so maybe
I'm missing something else too :(

If  there  is  no  solution, I guess I could just use GUI Ext to dra a
neat little shell window or sumot instead :)

Thanx in advance for any help.

Andy Gibson

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   Hello.

   I have implemented my design and the Auto-Image-Grabber is working
   EXCELLENT, in fact it even picks up images the ShapesManager
   misses!!

   Now, I just want to add a few simple features to make this a kind
   of Bob/Icon Manager tool, even though it will still be called the AIG.

   I definitely want to add options for auto-centering, appending Abk
   files, defining the transparent-color and support Icons as much as
   possible.  Hmmm... I'll have to see if Icons can be appended with
   the ",1" suffix, if not then I won't worry about it as the Bobs are
   the most important thing to me!!!

   Then it's just a matter of adding some on-line documentation, doc
   files and such so people other than myself can use these utilities.
   It's not that they are complicated, but some like my SampleTrimmer
   and MapEditor are a bit different from the norm...

   Anyway, I apologize for the delay, but I won't submit them until I
   have them reasonably documented and polished, these are things
   I never bothered doing before as I was the only person who was
   using them!!!

   At any rate, I should have the whole batch archived and e-mailed to
   Giark by tomorrow night and I will probably add them to my webpages
   over the weekend as well...
  

      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 5% Complete

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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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> Hiya guys,> My problem is that it doesn't let me use Multi Wait :(
> 
> No  matter  where  I  put  Multi  Wait  (above  or below the Eliconify
> command) or even in a loop, Multi Wait doesn't work!!!
> 
> Therefore this command seems sensless to me. Does anyone know of a way
> to return the CPU to the system when using tis command then?

This is the same problem I had a while back.
Somebody add a new iconify command in their extension!!!

-Murray

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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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Date: 24 Oct 97 16:37:57 +0000
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> >   This will be a TREMENDOUS aid in AMOS-development.  It is SO
> >   much easier and FASTER than manually grabbing each image,
> >   one-by-one!!  In fact, I really can't believe I waited this long to
> >   create such a utility!!!!
> 
> I already have a bob grabber. It works very easily indeed. Just draw a
> box  around  your  frames and it will automatically grab them by using
> the Point command. It has NEVER let me down so far.

Done something similar myself (except very rough) but I think Garfield
was meaning one where you just load a picture and the program grabs
everything on it without having to draw a frame, which would be
useful.

> I'm currently updating it to use a GUI instead of the nasty one I made
> last year :)

> Is anyone else interested in this....?

I'd like to try it out please.

-Murray

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           \\|//     Alastair Murray
           (o o)       malcolm.murray@virgin.net
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
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|     game/role/CHAOS    |                  +more)                  |
|game/jump/Banana Islands|http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray|
|   game/shoot/Hanger18  |Current Projects: >Chaos 2                |
|    dev/amos/keystate   | >Kill Em All     >Hanger 18 II           |
|    dev/amos/picpack    | >Skool Daze      >The Crow               |
|   game/shoot/traitor   | >Banana Islands                          |
|   game/shoot/extinct   | >The Turtleminator                       |
|     game/jump/blobby   | >Backbone - The Game Creator             |
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Greetings.

Well, I haven't said anything thus far about Giark's little tiff to 
the List, but I think now's a better time than any:

> Nah, he won't scrap the project. We'd ALL have to track him down and 
> well, it wouldn't be pretty... Besides, after all the hooting and 
> work we've put into this thing as well as the work he has put into 
> this project, I'm sure Mr. Giark will "stick it out".

hehe, that's for sure.
 
> Are you kidding?  They will ALL be playable enough to include in the 
> final game!!  I don't know for sure, but judging from what I've come 
> to know of these guys in the time I've been on this list, I'd almost 
> be willing to bet that they are all simply busy with other things 
> and/or do NOT want to send a new demo until they have something that 
> will really "knock your socks off". That's the problem with 
> developing like this.  You put something up there and people give 
> you feedback, then you have to work in as many of the suggestions as 
> possible while also trying to out-do your last demo, so instead of 
> the development becoming easier, it actually becomes harder and 
> harder with each new demo!!

um-hmm, ye, ye. That's what I'm winging. If I had put out my demo a 
couple of weeks ago, it would have been TOO SLOW, and I would have 
MOST ASSUREDLY gotten mail from almost every beta-tester saying, 
"This things too slow! Speed it up!" That's what I've been putting my 
time into. I'll be almost finished, then I'll run into some kind of 
trouble and have to go back and rewrite or start over. Writing a 
caster for a game like this for a guy like Giark in a language like 
AMOS is no easy feat, especially considering I've never done it! 
hehe, but that's no matter.

> When all the demos from this next update-wave have arrived, I
> think CBATNAM will be looking VERY good indeed.

This is what I'm thinking (and hoping).
 
> If you are interested in checking out the demos currently
> available, just e-mail Giark and he'll sort you out.  

Just word it right, so he wont cuss you out (hehe, just kidding).

Bagpipes (n): an octopus wearing a kilt.

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Greetings.

Andy Gibson had this to say regarding the AMOS 3D extension: 
> It's  on  Productivity disk 2 in the extensions drawer. BTW Which
> slot does  this use? There didn't appear to be anything in the
> manual about it at all :(

Remember, though, that only the EXTENSION is on the Productivity 
disk, not the OM (object modeller, examples, etc.). Those are on a 
coverdisk (which I got from Chris Evans via CU-Amiga, disk #76).

> I  never  knew  this file existed until I read your email. Does
> anyone out  there have the full commands for Amos 3D as an asii
> file? I never got  around  to  buying the manual when Amiga
> Computing had Amos 3D on disk :(

I'm not sure there IS one. Chris DID send me, however, photocopies of 
the pages from the article in the mag that came complete with ALL the 
commands w/descriptions. I could type it up, but you'd have to wait 
on it (I'm quite busy at the moment).

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>> I already have a bob grabber. It works very easily indeed. Just draw a
>> box  around  your  frames and it will automatically grab them by using
>> the Point command. It has NEVER let me down so far.
 
   > Done something similar myself (except very rough) but I think Garfield
   > was meaning one where you just load a picture and the program grabs
   > everything on it without having to draw a frame, which would be
   > useful.

      Yes, that is EXACTLY the point.  You don't have to worry about
      manually grabbing each image nor do you need to draw a box around
      them.  The AIG works out the area of the images all on it's own and
      does so much quicker than you might imagine for pure AMOS.

      I have performed many test-grabs and some IFFs containted 50-60+
      images (the screen literally packed with them) and these 320x220
      IFFs were completely processed within 10-15 seconds... of course,
      that was without the Auto-Centering turned on, but there is no way
      you could manually grab the images that fast.  It looks like this
      will be a tool I will make extensive use of, might even encourage me
      to do larger AMOS-projects than I have so far...

      Anyway, I'm almost finished with the docs (writing doc-files is SO
      much fun, isn't it?) and will be uploading the development-tools
      later tonight.

      I will post a final note after I have actually mailed the archive to
      Mr. Giark...


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 5% Complete


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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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Anyone have any AMOS code for doing a pattern match on a string?

e.g. *.AMOS or #?.AMOS to see if a string contains .AMOS in it
anywhere.

Saves me writing it myself...

Thanks,
-Murray

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|game/jump/Banana Islands|http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray|
|   game/shoot/Hanger18  |Current Projects: >Chaos 2                |
|    dev/amos/keystate   | >Kill Em All     >Hanger 18 II           |
|    dev/amos/picpack    | >Skool Daze      >The Crow               |
|   game/shoot/traitor   | >Banana Islands                          |
|   game/shoot/extinct   | >The Turtleminator                       |
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   Hello again!!

   I just finished e-mailing the DevTools1.LHA archive to Mr G.

   I had planned on including two utilities, the SampleTrimmer and
   the AutoImageGrabber, but as there was a "bug" in the Sample
   Trimmer after compilation (most likely I didn't Open a screen and I
   always compile without the Screen open option) and I also know
   several people are interested in this ImageGrabber, I decided to
   just go ahead and archive the AIG by itself...

   I might submit the other development-tools sometime next week,
   but I'll probably be too busy with other projects, so who knows!!


   PLEASE, if you download the AIG and try it out, let me know how
   it works for you and what you think of it.  I've tried to add as many
   checks as possible to prevent any crashes and you should receive
   plenty of feedback telling you exactly what happened (and what is
   happening) when you select a menu-option.

   One thing I really would like to know is... can everyone see the
   MessageWindow at the bottom of the screen.  You should be able
   to view two lines of text down there, if you can't PLEASE let me
   know and also tell me if you're in PAL or NTSC mode.

   So remember, don't just download it and never say a word. I've
   spent two days on this utility and it works fine so far in all of my 
   tests (except for one letter in the message-box not be clearing
   at a certain point), but I can't guarantee it's perfect.

   I've tried to maximize the speed of the AIG and am quite satisfied
   with it's performance overall, although the Auto-Centering takes a
   bit longer than I'd like it to.  How fast does it process on YOUR
   system?


   One final note: All of the options are explained under the 'About...'
   Menu-Option.  READ the text there and you should be all set.
   Just remember the AIG scans from top to bottom, right to left, so
   your images will be picked up in that order...


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 5% Complete

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On 25-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin scribbled:

>> Done something similar myself (except very rough) but I think Garfield
>> was meaning one where you just load a picture and the program grabs
>> everything on it without having to draw a frame, which would be
>> useful.

>Yes, that is EXACTLY the point.  You don't have to worry about
>manually grabbing each image nor do you need to draw a box around
>them.  The AIG works out the area of the images all on it's own and
>does so much quicker than you might imagine for pure AMOS.

Sorry  if you picked me up wrongly, when I said drraw a box round each
image,  I  meant when you are drawing the IFF piccy! Simply draw a box
around  each  frame  on  the IFF (using col 1). Then save the iff (can
even be bigger thatn 320 * 256).

My  proggy  then  uses  the  Point command and grabs everything inside
these  boxes  automatically  :)  It's quick and very easy. There is NO
need  to  do anything at all. It even sets the Hot Spot to centre, but
i'm working on adding a neat GUI so you can choose to position the hot
spot at certain points.

I  wrote this for use with GRAC for grabbing characters. If anyone has
ever  used  GRAC,  you'll know how crap it's grabber is. I'll send the
source  code  to  Garfield  soon in case he needs it. I'm gonna have a
look at his though to see how good it is.

Mine was just for personal use, but gimme some time and I'll even send
the source to Mush for his Amos web site :)

Cheers, Andy Gibson.

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On 26-Oct-97, James Brown scribbled:

>My excuse is that Peter (Cahill) still has the latest code and is not
>replying to my emails and (so far) to my messages to the list.
>Anyone else know how I can get in contact with him?
>Well met and godspeed,
>                      Giark

I've  been  waiting for replies from Peter for a while too :( He seems
to have vanished! I do know he's very busy with TGE, so be patient....

Andy Gee!

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Ive just been on the CBATNAM page and downloaded some of the level demo's,
and stuff.

The first one I played was the side-shooter demo. Its certainly been
updated since I downloaded it last. I was very impressed with the speed at
which it performs (59 frames/sec on my machine) and certainly had action. I
couldnt get to the mid-boss yet, so dont know what it looks like.

Then I ran the Gates of Doom level, and was stunned. It has *certainly*
come on since we last saw it, and it was certainly worth the wait. There
are so many bits and pieces in that level, it has me going in circles, and
I especially like the way in which you can move around the level etc.

Im off to a weekly amiga meet now, and will be coding with several other
AMOS programmers in both the GUI extension (teaching them how to use it)
and also we will be heavily thrashing the JADE extension a bit. Im also
discussing a floor-plan with them as the best way for me to start
distributing this F1 Software titles, and maybe making them buy a few, hehe.

I will make my compiled results from the JADE extension available to anyone
who wants to see them, if you are interested.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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I'm making a prog which shows your phoncosts.

It's 28640 big but when I compile it, it is 100716...

Why is that?

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On 25-Oct-97, Alastair Murray wrote:
>Anyone have any AMOS code for doing a pattern match on a string?
>e.g. *.AMOS or #?.AMOS to see if a string contains .AMOS in it
>anywhere.
>Saves me writing it myself...

A=Instr(<string to check>,<string to search for>)

If it was there, A will contain the start position of the first occurance.
Otherwise, A will be 0.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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   I have added the AutoImageGrabber archive to my webpages. Just 
   enter the Amiga Domain, then go to the AMOS Programming page and
   you will find both the AMOS&BLITZ Demos archive and the DevTool1
   archive (which contains the AIG)...

   So, help yourself...but, remember to send me some FEEDBACK!!!!
   

      Take  care,   
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The Gates Of Doom level is up on the page. Check it out and grab the Beta
Response form as well. That's two out of five level demos up. Come on, you
lazy lot. Get me those demos. I guess Keith Hill still hasn't got his amiga
back from the shop. What excuse for the rest of you? Adam, we need to see
something, no matter how slow it is!
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 26-Oct-97, Mr. Giark To You scribbled:
>On 26-Oct-97, Rune J. Keller wrote:
>>Have you changed the URL of the page? I can't reach to it anymore?

>No. The last few days, they have been having a few problems with their
>connetion. Just keep trying.

I'm still hving PROBS TOO M8 :(

It's now Sunday night and I still can't get anything!!!

Andy Gibson.

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On 26-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin scribbled:

>Okay, so has no one tried out the AIG or (more likely) has no one 
>bothered to give me any feedback?

I've  downloaded  it  m8  from  your  website  (couldn't get linked to
Giark's  for  some  reason!). Anyway, I've yet to try it out coz I was
out all day.

I'll try it out over the next couple of days and i WILL/SHALL give you
feedback.  If anyone else has tried it, please also send some feedback
to Garfield.

If  ya don't, who knows, he might just not bother spreading neat stuff
like  this  to  us all in the future. C'mon guys. It'll only take ya 5
mins to type up a reply :)

Make it worth his time. 

cya,

Andy Gibson.

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> The Gates Of Doom level is up on the page. Check it out and grab
> the Beta Response form as well.

   Just "ported" the GoD demo over to my Amiga...

   WOW!!!  Great work Andy!!!

   The new demo is VERY atmospheric and if this doesn't illustrate what
   AMOS is capable of then nothing will...

   I love all the "extras" you have added, it's obvious you have put a LOT
   of work into this thing!!

   
   Giark, you probably already know this, but I'll tell you anyway:

   The html code for the BetaResponse download is on the CBATNAM
   page, but the link isn't...


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 12% Complete

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To: Alastair Murray <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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On 24-Okt-97, Alastair Murray smashed the keyboard with:
>> Hiya guys,> My problem is that it doesn't let me use Multi Wait :(
>> 
>> No  matter  where  I  put  Multi  Wait  (above  or below the Eliconify
>> command) or even in a loop, Multi Wait doesn't work!!!
>> 
>> Therefore this command seems sensless to me. Does anyone know of a way
>> to return the CPU to the system when using tis command then?

>This is the same problem I had a while back.
>Somebody add a new iconify command in their extension!!!

Guess you're not looking in the newest verz. of easylife, in that there's
4 commands to iconify, the old one, and 3 new where you first open the
icon, then a check to see if the user has selected the small window on the
WB, and finaly a command to close it. This allows you to make a loop around
the check with multi wait...

Ohh yes, don't get cheated by the version number, V1.10 (on Aminet in 3 
or 4 large .LHA files) IS the NEWEST version, much never than 1.44. I use
1.10 and the iconify system works just great (If one's remembering to put
'Amos To Back' in the loop...).. I think 1.10 is at Mush's site too, but
I'm not sure..

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To: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>, amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:27:55 +0100
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On 25-Okt-97, Mr. Giark To You smashed the keyboard with:
>On 25-Oct-97, Alastair Murray wrote:
>>Anyone have any AMOS code for doing a pattern match on a string?
>>e.g. *.AMOS or #?.AMOS to see if a string contains .AMOS in it
>>anywhere.
>>Saves me writing it myself...

>A=Instr(<string to check>,<string to search for>)

THAT's NOT A PATTERN MATCH, but a character match

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On 25-Okt-97, Alastair Murray smashed the keyboard with:
>Anyone have any AMOS code for doing a pattern match on a string?

>e.g. *.AMOS or #?.AMOS to see if a string contains .AMOS in it
>anywhere.

>Saves me writing it myself...

Easylife extension supports the 'pattern.library' that allows you to make
the match. Also LDos supports AmigaOS wildcard matching under 2.0+...

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To: Hakan Venderlof <grok@canit.se>
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On 25-Okt-97, Hakan Venderlof smashed the keyboard with:
>I'm making a prog which shows your phoncosts.

>It's 28640 big but when I compile it, it is 100716...

>Why is that?

Because when you're compiling the compile includes the 'amos.library' with
the program (Unless disabled in the setup), if it's disabled it HAS to be
in libs: on the computer.. (Nice for many amos-progs in a bundle). However
try to pack the file with powerpacker, it almost reduces the size of amos
programs with at least 40% (Not if there's many samples or other complex
data in it...)

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Hi all,

I was just wondering how many of you know about these commercial games
which seem to have been written with Amos...

Flight Of The Amazone Queen:

Have  a  look  at  the files on the disks. You will see some Amos bank
stuff  all  compiled into one large file! The game's main exec doesn't
seem  to  be an Amos prog though as there is no mention of Amos at all
(not even the switcher).



Tracksuit Manager 2 Update 1997 Disk:

This  is Amos alright. That ugly orange default screen raised its ugly
head  and I knew it was Amos straight away. A simple check of the main
exec confirmed this as does a look at the main piccy - ABK packed pic.


There's  no point in me mentioning Hillsea Lido or the Valhalla Series
by Vulcan now, is there?



International  Golf  (oldie)  and  World  Golf  (Islona) are both Amos
projects  by  a contact of mine called Dave kirk. The same guy who was
sorta behind Blobz. (Blobz was written in Blitz BTW).



What other BIG games have been written in Amos? Anyone know....?

It's an interesting subject methinx ;)


cya, Andy Gibson.

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On 26-Oct-97, Alastair Murray scribbled:
>Anyone know how to change the clock time on the computer?
>I can't find any AMOS command that will do it and I can't work
>syntax of the C:SetDate command.
>Thanks,
>-Murray

Do  you  mean  change the actual time or just read it? If it's to read
it, simply use the JD Extension (or Amcaf if you have that instead :)

To  change  it  will require Areg and Dreg calls probably, but I'm not
sure how to do this without knowledge of the kernal roms!!!

Anyone else know....?

cya, Andy.

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From: Jamie Bentley <sniper@technet2000.com.au>
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:54:45 +1000
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 I need a scrolling rpoutine that works on a standard 320x256 screen (32 cols)...
 
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>The Gates Of Doom level is up on the page. Check it out and grab the 
>Beta Response form as well.
Your link for the Beta form is busted. No doubt you already have been
told this though.

>That's two out of five level demos up. Come on, you lazy lot.
>Get me those demos. I guess Keith Hill still hasn't got his amiga
>back from the shop. What excuse for the rest of you? Adam, we need to 
>see something, no matter how slow it is!
My excuse is that Peter (Cahill) still has the latest code and is not
replying to my emails and (so far) to my messages to the list.
Anyone else know how I can get in contact with him?

>Well met and godspeed,
>                      Giark
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On 25-Oct-97, Mush wrote:
> Ive just been on the CBATNAM page and downloaded some of the level demo's,
> and stuff.

> The first one I played was the side-shooter demo. Its certainly been
> updated since I downloaded it last. I was very impressed with the speed at
> which it performs (59 frames/sec on my machine) and certainly had action. I
> couldnt get to the mid-boss yet, so dont know what it looks like.

> Then I ran the Gates of Doom level, and was stunned. It has *certainly*
> come on since we last saw it, and it was certainly worth the wait. There
> are so many bits and pieces in that level, it has me going in circles, and
> I especially like the way in which you can move around the level etc.

> Im off to a weekly amiga meet now, and will be coding with several other
> AMOS programmers in both the GUI extension (teaching them how to use it)
> and also we will be heavily thrashing the JADE extension a bit. Im also
> discussing a floor-plan with them as the best way for me to start
> distributing this F1 Software titles, and maybe making them buy a few, hehe.

> I will make my compiled results from the JADE extension available to anyone
> who wants to see them, if you are interested.

NO YOU DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I gave you this beta version for testing, not for showing demos of it to other
people...
I'm sorry, but all the others are going to have to wait for it.
(btw, you van't compile jade programs, one of our little protective methods!)

> Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Jamie Bentley, who did
thus comment on Scrolling routine on the night of 26-Oct-97:
->  I need a scrolling rpoutine that works on a standard 320x256 screen (32
-> cols)...

What kind of scrolling routine, I have loads in the library?

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Subject: AIG... Feedback PLEASE!!
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   Okay, so has no one tried out the AIG or (more likely) has no one 
   bothered to give me any feedback?

   Version 1 is available from the CBATNAM webpage and version 1b
   is available from my AMOS-webpage...


   I will clarify what the AIG does:

   Using a paint-program such as PersonalPaint or DeluxePaint, you
   draw your images on an IFF screen.  You do NOT need to draw a
   "frame" around each image.

   Just load the IFF into the AIG and it will scan the entire IFF (which
   can be up to 1024 pixels tall I believe), scrolling the screen up as
   needed so you can view the process.

   Unlike what I said in one of my previous messages, the AIG actually
   scans from Top to Bottom, LEFT To RIGHT, one row at a time.


   When it finds a piece of an image the AIG will automatically sort out
   the area the image uses and grab that image which will be placed into
   either the Bob or Icon bank, depending on which you specified in the 
   Options menu.

   When the IFF has been fully processed, IF you have Auto-Centering
   turned ON (under the Options menu), the images will all be
   automatically width-aligned (according to the 16-pixel boundary
   needed for the blitter) and centered horizontally.

   So, the point is you do NOT need to do ANYTHING else, period...

   In addition, you can import Bob and Icon Abk-files which are 
   appended to the appropriate bank.  This allows you to merge a
   bunch of seperate Abk-files into one file and if Auto-Centering is
   ON, these imported Images will also be width-aligned and centered
   horizontally.

   You can work with both Bobs and Icons in the same session, simply
   switching between the two by using the Grab Bob/Icons menu-option.

   Choose the Display Statistics option under the Project-menu to see
   how many Bob and Icon images are in the current banks...


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 12% Complete

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:43:09 -0500
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On 26-Oct-97, Rune J. Keller wrote:
>Have you changed the URL of the page? I can't reach to it anymore?

No. The last few days, they have been having a few problems with their
connetion. Just keep trying.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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Anyone know how to change the clock time on the computer?
I can't find any AMOS command that will do it and I can't work out the
syntax of the C:SetDate command.

Thanks,
-Murray

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|    dev/amos/keystate   | >Kill Em All     >Hanger 18 II           |
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>>Yes, that is EXACTLY the point.  You don't have to worry about
>>manually grabbing each image nor do you need to draw a box around
>>them.  The AIG works out the area of the images all on it's own and
>>does so much quicker than you might imagine for pure AMOS.
 
   > Sorry  if you picked me up wrongly, when I said drraw a box round
   > each image,  I  meant when you are drawing the IFF piccy! Simply
   > draw a box around  each  frame  on  the IFF (using col 1). Then save
   > the iff (can even be bigger thatn 320 * 256).

      Nope, I understood you.  What I mean is that the AIG does not 
      require you to draw a frame around each image.  It will determine
      the image-boundaries all on it's own and grab the image exactly as
      it appears in the IFF, so if you draw a frame around the images, 
      the AIG would grab the whole rectangle, frame and all.


> My  proggy  then  uses  the  Point command and grabs everything inside
> these  boxes  automatically  :)  It's quick and very easy. There is NO
> need  to  do anything at all. It even sets the Hot Spot to centre, but
> i'm working on adding a neat GUI so you can choose to position the hot
> spot at certain points.

   I hope the AIG-interface is sufficient.  It is modeled after the one I
   used for my EnemyMotionDesigner as I didn't want to spend a lot of
   time on this thing. It's already taken two full days and another 20
   minutes tweaking yesterday, resulting in version1b...

   There was something else I was thinking of adding/changing, but I
   can't remember right now, so maybe it wasn't that important...

   I think it's quite usable as it is, but I haven't heard from anyone
   yet.  I assume this means you either think it's the best thing since
   the Amiga itself and can't stop using it OR you think it's pathetic and
   don't want to tell me...


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 12% Complete

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-> *** Forwarded message, originally written by Magnus Sjberg on 23-Oct-97
***
-> Tested on: A1200/030 40MHz 2+12MB RAM

-> Looks good. Is that the font we're gonna use? The "X" didn't seem
-> to fit among the other characters.
-> Should look more like:!  !
->  \/
->  /\
-> !  !

Im still messing around with various bits and pieces, so will keep it in
mind!!

Anyone any other suggestions?

P.S. Which extension am I supposed to play the THX module with, Doom?

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Andy Gibson, who did
thus comment on Commercial Games on the night of 26-Oct-97:
-> Hi all,

-> I was just wondering how many of you know about these commercial games
-> which seem to have been written with Amos...

Hmmmm, the list is rather large.

I dont think Valhalla 3 was done in AMOS tho, or at that, any of them. Id
have to find the demos and check.

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On 17-Okt-20, Alastair Murray smashed the keyboard with:
> >>Anyone have any AMOS code for doing a pattern match on a string?
>> >>e.g. *.AMOS or #?.AMOS to see if a string contains .AMOS in it
>> >>anywhere.
>> >>Saves me writing it myself...
>> 
>> >A=Instr(<string to check>,<string to search for>)
>> 
>> THAT's NOT A PATTERN MATCH, but a character match

>Yes. A few people have misunderstood me I think.
>This is what I need.
>using: #?amos#?pro :as a pattern would respond
>True for "amos pro" or "amos not pro" or "not amos pro" or "not amos
>not pro" etc. As long as it has Anything, then the word "amos" then
>anything else and then the word "pro" and nothing else.... get it?

>No-one programmed anything like this?
>I know some extension use it (AMCAF) and you can access the Pattern
>Match in a library somehow but I'd rather let it work with 1.3 dos as
>well.

Just a note.
Easylife + pattern.library runs on 1.3 too...

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Michel Bijlsma, who did
thus comment on Re: Wow!! on the night of 26-Oct-97:

-> > I will make my compiled results from the JADE extension available to
anyone
-> > who wants to see them, if you are interested.

-> NO YOU DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-> I gave you this beta version for testing, not for showing demos of it to
other
-> people...
-> I'm sorry, but all the others are going to have to wait for it.
-> (btw, you van't compile jade programs, one of our little protective
methods!)

Im still scratching my head as to why you wont generate a market for your
extension by not releasing a compiled demo at least, showing off some of
its headers. Hmm, I guess you *dont* want a huge list of pre orders queuing
up for when it goes on general release.

I guess if it doesnt compile, I cant release anything to anyone anyhow. Who
else is on the tester list, so I can at least send code to them?

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Ryan Watson, who did
thus comment on Web Site on the night of 26-Oct-97:
-> I was wondering if some people could take a look at my web page and tell me
-> what they think.
-> Two of my programs are on the page, one is not a game - you just watch the
-> computer kill people, and the other is a beta version of a game I was
working
-> on, SheepFest.

-> For those that are interested the address is:
-> http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic/

-> If you do visit be sure to leave comments to me!

Ive been there, it looks quite good. I love the people dying on the screen
thingy, its kind of a good idea for a screensaver. You should add a few
more death sequences to it though, hehe. Ive added it to the PD library,
along with the beta for the sheep one.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was mortenbo, who did thus
comment on Hardware-Sprite on the night of 27-Oct-97:

-> If i'am not mistaking i now have a hardware sprite as a pointer.

I think you should use GET SPRITE instead of GET BOB, im not sure tho

-> But my new pointer has the same ugly colour as the default mouse pointer
-> in Amos.
-> How do i get the right colours back on my hardware sprite (Pointer)

There is a way around this, I think you have to change the palette in the
prefs
for AMOS. If you define the colours 16, 17 or 18 or whatever to the ones you
need, it should work. Try it in direct mode, you'll see the pointer change
colour.

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Okay, I've got a strange problem that I neither know how to correct
nor what the likely cause is... I recently added the double buffer
command to Realm of Sendai, since the BOB flicker was getting really
bad in some scenes. However, now I'm having trouble with the combat
target selection arrow. Basically, this is a BOB which is used to
select a target for a spell or attack. The arrow starts visible,
disappears the next time it is moved, reappears the next time, and
so on. I assume that it's being rendered on whichever one of the
screens isn't currently being displayed, but can't find a way to
bring it back consistently...

and the @$#/>##? manual claims that AMOS handles all the dirty work
for you... pthooh!

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm hoping to have version 0.7
of RoS out soon (obviously not tonight...). Check out the web page
at:
      http://home.thezone.net/~ataraxia/sendai/


- Joseph Hewitt.


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   Hello again,

   
   I'm writing one final message so you all know that tomorrow (Monday), I
   will be working on the AIG one last time.

   If you have any complaints or suggestions you MUST get them to me
   tomorrow, preferrably BEFORE 4pm my time ( 9pm for those
   of you in England and 1 pm for those in CA, USA)...

   Currently, there are only two "things" on my agenda:

   1.  Adding a threshhold-setting to allow the user to define the distance
       between stray pixels so the AIG can truly recognize ALL images,
       even explosions and such which often have many scattered pixels
       around their outside "rim".
       A BIG THANKS to Ryan Watson for providing me with my first
       feedback on the AIG and reminding me of this problem.  It was that
       one thing I wanted to add, but forgot about.

   2.  General fine-tuning here and there.  The menu "zone" needs to be
        moved up a few pixels and I'll just tidy everything up a bit where
        possible.


   This will be it.  After tomorrow, the AIG is completed and I will get 
   back to work on other projects, so if you want something added or
   you have located a bug, NOW is the time to tell me...


   THANKS!!


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
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      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
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In message <yam7239.2046.3814464@mail.redrose.net>, Mush
<mushypd@redrose.net> writes

>P.S. Which extension am I supposed to play the THX module with, Doom?

If it's a THX 1.xx module (which I believe it is) use Doom. If it's a
THX 2.xx module, use JOTRE to be released shortly after I get the
example music done.

By the way, I have a filtered version of the Bubba High music too if you
want it, but you'll have to wait for Jotre.


-- 
Evert-Jan Slypen

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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Organization: Muzzasoft/Microplanet Games
Date: 17 Oct 120 06:31:11 +0000
Subject: Re: Pattern Match
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 >>Anyone have any AMOS code for doing a pattern match on a string?
> >>e.g. *.AMOS or #?.AMOS to see if a string contains .AMOS in it
> >>anywhere.
> >>Saves me writing it myself...
> 
> >A=Instr(<string to check>,<string to search for>)
> 
> THAT's NOT A PATTERN MATCH, but a character match

Yes. A few people have misunderstood me I think.
This is what I need.
using: #?amos#?pro :as a pattern would respond
True for "amos pro" or "amos not pro" or "not amos pro" or "not amos
not pro" etc. As long as it has Anything, then the word "amos" then
anything else and then the word "pro" and nothing else.... get it?

No-one programmed anything like this?
I know some extension use it (AMCAF) and you can access the Pattern
Match in a library somehow but I'd rather let it work with 1.3 dos as
well.

-Murray


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From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>
To: Mush <mushypd@redrose.net>
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 21:43:24 -0000
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On 26-Oct-97, Mush scribbled:

>>I was just wondering how many of you know about these commercial games
>>which seem to have been written with Amos...

>Hmmmm, the list is rather large.

>I dont think Valhalla 3 was done in AMOS tho, or at that, any of them.
>I'd have to find the demos and check.
>Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett

Valhalla  was  done  with  Amos.  I'm sure of it. It once threw up the
default  Amos  system requestor. Can't remember when though. (probably
for a disk access or sumot)

It's  a  well  known  fact that Valhalla was written in Amos. I'm sure
they  used  some machine code stuff in there too, but as ya know, Amos
Pro is quite capable of using this with no probs whatsoever.

Could  someone send me a list of all known Commercial games written in
Amos? As my previous email stated, I only know of a few.

Andy Gee!

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To: Jamie Bentley <sniper@technet2000.com.au>
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On 27-Oct-97, Jamie Bentley scribbled:
>Is there a Street Fighter 2 or Mortal Komabt clone done by AMOS
>I could have a look at?

I  think Brian Bell did one a few years ago on his disk mag called the
Mr  Amos  Club.  You'll  find it hard to get it though as it was never
released as PD :(

Maybe someone still has the code & gfx for it kicking around and could
send  it  to  ya  though. I don't think Brian would mind. He's far too
busy  trying  to  sell  peeps  his  REALITY  Kit. (BTW I've heard this
Reality  thing  is  just  a  mass  of his Mr Amos disk sources all put
together as a game editor!)

Andy Gee!

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I just wanted to notify those who have tried my SheepFest Beta Demo and
took a look at any of the bomb cheats about a bug with the actual bombs.

I do cheap way of detecting the collision between the sheeps and the
explosions. Basically for every frame of the explosion it sets a tag which
causes the sheep movement loop to perform a check on collisions to it. Now,
the bug IS that explosions use the same number as the mid-air bomb, so
after an explosion has occured the tag normally remains set. What happens
is that the mid-air bombs will kill the sheep before they have detonated. I
also use this method for the gun shots. So that you can only hit one sheep
at a time (this method was also widely needed for the boss sheep because
his body sections overlap alot, so one gun shot could get multiple hits).

Now, I only did the explosion collision this way because I was lazy :). But
if I do switch my main project back to Sheepfest this will be changed to
another method I have planned.

I also want to let you know more about the sheep worm. He does not die
(which I explain on the page) but his health does get calculated. If you
have shot him enough times he starts making the sound for pain even when
you aren't shooting him. I did this on purpose :). Just wanted to let you
know.

Now, yet another thing I want to say, I also have a programmed Intro and
Score program. The intro consists of happy little sheep bouncing on the
bottom of the screen... then getting shot :).  The score program has a
large sheep whose eyes follow your pointer (which gets changed into a dead
sheep in the score) as he gets shot indicating your kills. If anyone is
interested in seeing these I will put them up on my page. Just wanted to
let you know.

Well, that's finally it, -later


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On 25-Oct-97, Andy Gibson wrote:
>I tried this [the CBATNAM web page Ed.] via IBrowse, but it could not find
server :(

Ya, the server was down over the weekend while they buggered me good. They
installed new watchdog software. When they say you have only so much space on
your site, they mean it. I'm in the process of getting a new site for my pages
(that have been all snazzed up, by the way), but for now, the page is back up
and active.

>I'm itchin' to see the demo levels and give feedback too :)

Try it now.

Well met and godspeed,
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
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On 25-Oct-97, Andy Gibson wrote:
>What other BIG games have been written in Amos? Anyone know....?

Bits and pieces of Alien Breed 3D II: The Killing Grounds, especially the
level editor.

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On 26-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>   Every time I started the demo, I received an "Out of Memory" error.

Sounds like the infamous `missing EasyLife.Library' error.

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On 27-Oct-97, Mush wrote:
>P.S. Which extension am I supposed to play the THX module with, Doom?

You aren't. EJ will be converting them all to MOD format. (SOON, EJ?) He just
does them in THX to give us an idea of what they will sound like.

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On 17-Oct-20, Alastair Murray wrote:
>> >A=Instr(<string to check>,<string to search for>)
>using: #?amos#?pro :as a pattern would respond
>True for "amos pro" or "amos not pro" or "not amos pro" or "not amos
>not pro" etc. As long as it has Anything, then the word "amos" then
>anything else and then the word "pro" and nothing else.... get it?

so, use instr for each word and check the results. Jeez!

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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Maybe wrong place to ask...but I just wonder if
there is any language like AMOS for PC?
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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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Date: 27 Oct 97 17:44:31 +0000
Subject: Re: Set Time
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 >Anyone know how to change the clock time on the computer?
> >I can't find any AMOS command that will do it and I can't work out the
> >syntax of the C:SetDate command.
> 
> Uhh, I think 'JD' extension is capable of doing it (Not sure)

Well it says it does but I can't get it to work. Although, actually
there are a few commands that have stopped working recently, I
wondered if another extension was interfering.

-Murray

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|    dev/amos/keystate   | >Kill Em All     >Hanger 18 II           |
|    dev/amos/picpack    | >Skool Daze      >The Crow               |
|   game/shoot/traitor   | >Banana Islands                          |
|   game/shoot/extinct   | >The Turtleminator                       |
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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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Date: 27 Oct 97 18:19:07 +0000
Subject: Re: Commercial Games
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> I was just wondering how many of you know about these commercial games
> which seem to have been written with Amos...
> 
> Flight Of The Amazone Queen:
> 
> Have  a  look  at  the files on the disks. You will see some Amos bank
> stuff  all  compiled into one large file! The game's main exec doesn't
> seem  to  be an Amos prog though as there is no mention of Amos at all
> (not even the switcher).

You can edit that out with a Hex editor if you want.... otherwise it
may be crunched?

One more from the top of my head was Genesia. It got OK reviews and I
enjoyed it for a while...

-Murray

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|   game/shoot/Hanger18  |Current Projects: >Chaos 2                |
|    dev/amos/keystate   | >Kill Em All     >Hanger 18 II           |
|    dev/amos/picpack    | >Skool Daze      >The Crow               |
|   game/shoot/traitor   | >Banana Islands                          |
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On 26-Okt-97, Andy Gibson smashed the keyboard with:
>Hi all,

>I was just wondering how many of you know about these commercial games
>which seem to have been written with Amos...


>What other BIG games have been written in Amos? Anyone know....?
>It's an interesting subject methinx ;)

Well, Amazon Queen IS written in AMOS and compiled with something like
the GUI-compiler..

Alien Breed 3D II's editors was ALL written in AMOS Pro by some lousy
programmer (Most buggy programs ever seen), I've rewritten 'em by the way.

I suspect Indy IV adventure to be written in AMOS but I'm not sure about
that though..

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On 27-Okt-97, mortenbo smashed the keyboard with:

>Hello Folx!

>I have a little problem that i need a solution to really fast!

>I have a code like this:

>screen open 0,320,256,4,
>load iff "work:retroPointer.iff",0
>get bob 1,10,10 to 26,30
>change mouse 4

>If i'am not mistaking i now have a hardware sprite as a pointer.

>But my new pointer has the same ugly colour as the default mouse pointer
>in Amos.
>How do i get the right colours back on my hardware sprite (Pointer)

>Ok, i'll hope you guy's understand what i mean.

>I need a ansver to this by Monday evening, so PLEEEES ansver Quick!!

Well, hope this was quick enough for you..

Mouse pointer is using sprite 0, and the colours for that can be set as
colours 17, 18 and 19 (16 is transparent), if it don't work then try other
registers from 20->31... Mouse pointer MUST be in 4 colours....

Hope it helps..

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   THANKS to Murray and Ryan (again) for their AIG-feedback...


> I found the pull down menu acts a bit strangely. I press RMB and you
> can see the menu but it looks like it is behind another screen so
> can't do anything with it. Trying again usually solves it.

   Yes, that's exactly what happens. The menu sets on it's own hi-res
   screen behind the main work-screen.

   To properly access the menu, move the mouse up towards the top of
   the display BEFORE pressing the RightMouseButton and the menu
   will be brought to the front of the display...


> Also.... AMOS1.3 file requester!!!???

   Yes, I only use AMOS v1.36 and the Compiler v1.36 as I never cared
   for either AMOS Pro or the Pro Compiler...


>> I cannot use the AIG for my "Sheepfest" and "Blood is Red!" gfx due 
>> to the fact there are several pixels standing alone for the blood.

   No problems. As I was telling you, I have added a Pixel-Tolerance 
   option under the Options-menu.

   The default-setting is 0.  By adjusting this value, you can use the AIG
   to grab ALL images, even fragmented ones.

   Just experiment with different values. I have found a value in the range
   of 1-4 seems to work fine for almost any image.

   ALSO, I don't think I mentioned this anywhere, but you can Abort the
   Scan IFF process by pressing the Right Mouse Button...


>> One other problem, the whole menu never gets shown. The bottom
>> section of the Project menu is cut off, is the program supposed to
>> run in PAL?  The last thing I can see is the -------- under the
>> Scan IFF and Grab Images option...

   This is VERY STRANGE.  I've never seen this happen!!  Although I 
   am an NTSC-user, I have tried to fully support PAL as well.

   I've ran test after test in both PAL and NTSC modes and I cannot
   duplicate this problem, so I have no idea how to fix it!!!

   Does anybody else have this problem with the Project-menu being
   cut-off??  There should be one last option under that -------- line,
   the Quit This Program option!!


   --------<Version1C Is Now Ready>--------

   The PixelTolerance setting was very easy to add and all is working
   well (besides that menu-cutoff problem), so I will upload the new
   version to my Webpage SOON!!  I'll wait until later tonight, and if I
   do not receive any more suggestions, I'll send this version to you
   as well Mr. Giark, for the CBATNAM-page...


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 12% Complete

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>> Every time I started the demo, I received an "Out of Memory" error.

   > Sounds like the infamous `missing EasyLife.Library' error.

      Nah, it was the Squash-option.  Ryan has since replaced his old
      archive with a new one in which the executable has NOT been 
      compiled with the Squash-option and it works fine...

      You all should check out that SheepDemo, particularly set the flag
      for the Boss-worm, it's pretty cool...


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
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      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 12% Complete

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 Quite a bit from Capital Punishment (the password screen), and the bobs, I don't know :)

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Well...  after losing my CD32 drive in september, on the first of
october my new tower system decides to fail.  After being in repair
for most of a month (and being given the runaraound by the company
while the guy who knows what an amiga is was on holiday) they fixed
it, and I eventually got to take it home.  Now it seems to be working....

Now all I gotta do is catch up on a months email, reinstall amos,
finish Cap'n Bubba, do my VAT return, finish some paid work, have
a look at TFX, and all those other amiga things I havn't been able
to do for too long.

ARGH !!!

Please forgive me if I havn't answered anything.

cyallagain.

Braneloc.

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Andy Gibson wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was just wondering how many of you know about these commercial games
> which seem to have been written with Amos...
> 
> Flight Of The Amazone Queen:
> 
> Have  a  look  at  the files on the disks. You will see some Amos bank
> stuff  all  compiled into one large file! The game's main exec doesn't
> seem  to  be an Amos prog though as there is no mention of Amos at all
> (not even the switcher).
> 
> Tracksuit Manager 2 Update 1997 Disk:
> 
> This  is Amos alright. That ugly orange default screen raised its ugly
> head  and I knew it was Amos straight away. A simple check of the main
> exec confirmed this as does a look at the main piccy - ABK packed pic.
> 
> There's  no point in me mentioning Hillsea Lido or the Valhalla Series
> by Vulcan now, is there?
> 
> International  Golf  (oldie)  and  World  Golf  (Islona) are both Amos
> projects  by  a contact of mine called Dave kirk. The same guy who was
> sorta behind Blobz. (Blobz was written in Blitz BTW).
> 
> What other BIG games have been written in Amos? Anyone know....?
> 
> It's an interesting subject methinx ;)
> 
> cya, Andy Gibson.
Jetstrike was written using Amos

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Hi crew,

I need info on writing to the AGA chip in assembler.  If anyone can
help, in fact if all of you can help, I will be able to add some AGA
commands to the Amos language.  I also need any info on 3d, though I
have quite abit, so that I can add a new 3d extension for Amos as well.

Any help will be appreciated and you will benefit from the results.

Cheers,
Andy H

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	To Jamie

	I have a game called fight you already probably know, look at my 
page or aminet, name fight.lha

	My page:
	www.angelfire.com/ak/gamecreation

	Tell me what you think, I'm into rewriting it on blitz.
	See ya.
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Hakan Venderlof wrote:
> 
> Maybe wrong place to ask...but I just wonder if
> there is any language like AMOS for PC?

Theres someone making a language named "PENTOS"?
Is he still in the list?

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To the one known as Garfield,

> >> Of the five level coders, only one has bothered to send an update. 
> >"Who is this imbecile? Come! Kneel before Zod!" - Superman II
>    Me... imbecile?  Haha... Speaking of Superman, I hear there is a new
>    big-budget movie in the works...
> > Heh. Garf's Space Attack level is the only update in more than a month.
>    I think I'll have to be the one to break the bad news... apparently,
>    Adam and the others have all purchased IBM-clones and are now
>    busy developing their stages in VisualBasic...

SMEG !!!  Who told you ??   ;-)
 

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On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Joseph Hewitt wrote:

> select a target for a spell or attack. The arrow starts visible,
> disappears the next time it is moved, reappears the next time, and
> so on. I assume that it's being rendered on whichever one of the
> screens isn't currently being displayed, but can't find a way to
> bring it back consistently...
> 
> and the @$#/>##? manual claims that AMOS handles all the dirty work
> for you... pthooh!
> 
I don't know if this has been answered...
Make sure you don't have any bobs on the screen at all until after the
double buffer command. 

Are you using screen copy at all? Despite what it says about the
autoback modes, I find I always need Autoback 0.
Read the section on autoback for info

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I was checking the help file in 'Pro the other day and stumbled into
the latest news. Contrary to what I believed my version of 'Pro is
only 2.00. I think the last update was 2.01, right? Can anyone tell me
where I can get it? I hope there's not one of these dodgy copyright
problems though.....

cya

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On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Jens Vang Petersen wrote:

> Alien Breed 3D II's editors was ALL written in AMOS Pro by some lousy
> programmer (Most buggy programs ever seen), I've rewritten 'em by the way.

On the subject of the AB3DIIeditors they use an extension. Any ideas
which ones? I never bothered figuring it out as I only wanted a
curiosity look. 

Jens - any chance your ones don't use the extension? 

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Avaliable on Aminet, there's a tutorial avaliable entitled Space
Fighter. It might be worth having a look at.

                              - Joseph Hewitt.


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   Hello again.

 
   I know you're all sick of hearing about this thing, but just wanted to
   clear up a few things and let you know that the FINAL version of the
   AutoImageGrabber is available for download from my AMOS-page.

   Giark will be replacing the old version on the CBATNAM-page as soon
   as possible.  As you know, he's been having some trouble with his
   webpace-provider.

   
   I'd like to thank Aaron (beagley@crystal.com.au) for also providing
   feedback. Thanks, I do appreciate it.


   
   Now, the main point of this utility is the auto-grabbing/auto-centering,
   so while you can append Bob or Icon Abk-files, you MUST have the
   IFF loaded first in order for it work.

   Really, all you need it to load an IFF with just one image.  As long as
   it's the correct depth, you will be able to clear the bank and Append
   multiple Bob or Icon Files.  Just remember the Appended images
   are converted to the current work-screen's depth, which is 64-color
   EHB mode at by default.  Simply load a new IFF in the proper
   depth and all you can use the AIG to "meld" several ABK-files 
   together.


   Well, this should be the end of it...
   I'm still interesting in hearing from you all about this new version :-)


   Mush, the new archive now contains a complete doc-file and very
   simple tutorial illustrating the use of the Set Pixel Tolerance option.

   So, you are more than welcome to download the archive and add it to
   your library.


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
      _________________________
      Current projects...
      Color merge/redux modules(BLITZ):  90% Complete
      SideShooter(AMOS): 67% Complete
      Webpages(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 12% Complete

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To: Hakan Venderlof <grok@canit.se>
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 00:39:16 -0000
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On 27-Oct-97, Hakan Venderlof scribbled:
>Maybe wrong place to ask...but I just wonder if
>there is any language like AMOS for PC?

Visual Basic is probably near. Or Klik `n' Play by Europress or their
new release called The Games Factory which is very much like Klik n
Play. Nothing as good or as easy as Amos on the PC yet....

If there was, even I would consider buying a PC! Yeuukk!

Andy Gibson

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On 26-Oct-97, Mush scribbled:
>The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was mortenbo,
>>But my new pointer has the same ugly colour as the default mouse
>>pointer
>>in Amos.
>>How do i get the right colours back on my hardware sprite (Pointer)

>There is a way around this, I think you have to change the palette in the
>prefs
>for AMOS. If you define the colours 16, 17 or 18 or whatever to the ones you
>need, it should work. Try it in direct mode, you'll see the pointer change
>colour.
>Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett

I  think  there  is another way around this. If you alter the Resource
Bank (the one used for Amos requestor etc).

You  can  then  make  sure that cols 17, 18 & 19 are the same for each
mouse  pointer, whether it be a default one or a sprite. Not 100% sure
on this, but I'm sure i read it somewhere ;)

Andy Gee!

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On 28-Oct-97, Matt Ward scribbled:
>I was checking the help file in 'Pro the other day and stumbled into
>the latest news. Contrary to what I believed my version of 'Pro is
>only 2.00. I think the last update was 2.01, right? Can anyone tell me
>where I can get it? I hope there's not one of these dodgy copyright
>problems though.....
>cya

As  far as I know, V2.00 was the latest and final. If anyone knows any
different, lemme know too please ;)

Cheers - Andy Gibson

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On 28-Oct-97, Joseph Hewitt scribbled:
>Avaliable on Aminet, there's a tutorial avaliable entitled Space
>Fighter. It might be worth having a look at.
>                              - Joseph Hewitt.

I'm  sure this was the Brian Bell one I was talking about. I may still
have  the  source  and gfx in a box somewhere. Any probs, just ask and
I'll look it out. What about MUSH? Doesn't he have anything on this in
his Library?

Andy

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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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Date: 28 Oct 97 00:51:11 +0000
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> AMCAF has a command to do that. So does EasyLife I think.

AMCAF buggers up sometimes. Haven't checked Easylife though. Anyway,
I've written my own version now.... simplified, but its all I need.

-Murray

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On Mon, Oct 27, 1997, at 09:18 PM, Andy Gibson wrote:

> On 28-Oct-97, Matt Ward scribbled:
> >I was checking the help file in 'Pro the other day and stumbled into
> >the latest news. Contrary to what I believed my version of 'Pro is
> >only 2.00. I think the last update was 2.01, right? Can anyone tell me
> >where I can get it? I hope there's not one of these dodgy copyright
> >problems though.....
> >cya
> 
> As  far as I know, V2.00 was the latest and final. If anyone knows any
> different, lemme know too please ;)

As I recall the Amos Pro Compiler comes with an update to Amos Pro. That is
what puts it up to V2.01.

Hope this helps


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Hi folks

Can anyone help?

I know that Amos saves bob & Icon banks with the program
but-

Ive been working on a program and the 1st time I ran it the
code loaded in the bob and Icon files, returning to the 
editor I remmed the loading lines and saved the code.

The program loaded banks n'all and worked fine for some time,
until now, when I try to run it an error message telling me
bank not reserved at line so 'n' so (get icon palette).

when I go back to the editor and erase the rem's to reload 
the files the editor turned the load in LOAD, after which
nothing else works apart from a crash.

I have checked other programs with bob and icon files saved
in them and all works fine.

thanks in advance for any help
neil



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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Organization: Muzzasoft/Microplanet Games
Date: 28 Oct 97 18:18:48 +0000
Subject: Re: Amos for PC
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> > Maybe wrong place to ask...but I just wonder if
> > there is any language like AMOS for PC?
> 
> Theres someone making a language named "PENTOS"?
> Is he still in the list?

His name is Carl Drinkwater and he's at my university.
I haven't heard anything about Pentos in a long time so I'd take a
guess that its finished with but I may be wrong.

-Murray


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           \\|//     Alastair Murray
           (o o)       malcolm.murray@virgin.net
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
|         AMINET         |Web-Page (Amiga/Games/AMOS/trek/Music/    |
|     game/role/CHAOS    |                  +more)                  |
|game/jump/Banana Islands|http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray|
|   game/shoot/Hanger18  |Current Projects: >Chaos 2                |
|    dev/amos/keystate   | >Kill Em All     >Hanger 18 II           |
|    dev/amos/picpack    | >Skool Daze      >The Crow               |
|   game/shoot/traitor   | >Banana Islands                          |
|   game/shoot/extinct   | >The Turtleminator                       |
|     game/jump/blobby   | >Backbone - The Game Creator             |
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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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Date: 28 Oct 97 18:30:09 +0000
Subject: Re: Set Time
Message-Id: <34562F31.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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> Run Time or Date. Better yet, scarf AtomiClock from Aminet
> (Utilities/Time?). It gets the time from the USNavy Atomic Clock.
> 
> But then you also need ClockDeamon, as it's supposed to cover the
> changes between standard and daylight saving times.

I've had allsorts of answers to my question about setting the clock...
come we're very strange but anyway I thought I'd tell you why I need
it so you can understand a bit better.

My A1200 doesn't have a clock (none available when I got my memory
card apparently!) so everytime I use e-mail the dates bugger up....
so everyone shouts "use the on-line atomic clock option thing!".
which I do.... but.... I prefer to write my e-mails off-line so if I
turn on the computer and want to write an e-mail I have to set the
clock first.
I was going to write 2 programs. One would save the current time to
disk which would be done everytime the internet clock is accessed
(i.e. when I start AmiTCP)
The second would be run on boot up and would load the saved time and
change the clock to it's settings. This way, on boot-up, my clock
would be wrong but only by a few hours or a day at most which wouldn't
matter too much for e-mails.

OK?

Anyway I've proberly got it sussed now... thanks for the help.
Oh and I did try several AMINET programs first but they weren't too
good.

-Murray

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           \\|//     Alastair Murray
           (o o)       malcolm.murray@virgin.net
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
|         AMINET         |Web-Page (Amiga/Games/AMOS/trek/Music/    |
|     game/role/CHAOS    |                  +more)                  |
|game/jump/Banana Islands|http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray|
|   game/shoot/Hanger18  |Current Projects: >Chaos 2                |
|    dev/amos/keystate   | >Kill Em All     >Hanger 18 II           |
|    dev/amos/picpack    | >Skool Daze      >The Crow               |
|   game/shoot/traitor   | >Banana Islands                          |
|   game/shoot/extinct   | >The Turtleminator                       |
|     game/jump/blobby   | >Backbone - The Game Creator             |
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Andy Gibson, who did
thus comment on Re: Streetfighter clone? on the night of 28-Oct-97:

-> I'm  sure this was the Brian Bell one I was talking about. I may still
-> have  the  source  and gfx in a box somewhere. Any probs, just ask and
-> I'll look it out. What about MUSH? Doesn't he have anything on this in
-> his Library?

I have already sent him the Street fight source, plus a game called Mad
Fighters, which is almost exact to streetfighter, with massive sprites and
such.

I was going to send him Martial Spirit (Excellent!!) but I couldnt find it,
and dont know where my floppy version is.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Ryan Watson, who did
thus comment on RE: I'm horribly out of date! on the night of 28-Oct-97:

-> As I recall the Amos Pro Compiler comes with an update to Amos Pro. That is
-> what puts it up to V2.01.

Yes, the updater disk was the very latest version to be released, the .01
upgrade is in fact the compiler attachement.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was neil Bramwell, who did
thus comment on bob & Icon Banks on the night of 28-Oct-97:
-> Hi folks

-> Can anyone help?

-> I know that Amos saves bob & Icon banks with the program
-> but-

-> Ive been working on a program and the 1st time I ran it the
-> code loaded in the bob and Icon files, returning to the 
-> editor I remmed the loading lines and saved the code.

-> The program loaded banks n'all and worked fine for some time,
-> until now, when I try to run it an error message telling me
-> bank not reserved at line so 'n' so (get icon palette).

-> when I go back to the editor and erase the rem's to reload 
-> the files the editor turned the load in LOAD, after which
-> nothing else works apart from a crash.

-> I have checked other programs with bob and icon files saved
-> in them and all works fine.

When you are saving any banks, remember to put a ,<bank> at the end. For
example, to save a sprite bank do:

Save "Sprites",1

You could also do a plain SAVE (which I think is what you are doing) but
when you load this bank-less saved version in, it will delete all other
banks when loaded, as it thinks it is a set, rather than a single bank.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Alastair Murray, who
did thus comment on Re: Set Time on the night of 28-Oct-97:

-> I was going to write 2 programs. One would save the current time to
-> disk which would be done everytime the internet clock is accessed
-> (i.e. when I start AmiTCP)
-> The second would be run on boot up and would load the saved time and
-> change the clock to it's settings. This way, on boot-up, my clock
-> would be wrong but only by a few hours or a day at most which wouldn't
-> matter too much for e-mails.

Why dont you drag the TIME program from the Prefs drawer into the WBStartup
drawer and add DONOTWAIT in the tooltypes.  =)

It will boot up and show its current settings every time you reset your
machine.

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From: Evert-Jan Slypen <Jazz@lobster.demon.nl>
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In message <yam7239.759.4934152@huron.net>, "Mr. Giark To You"
<joehick@golden.net> writes

>>P.S. Which extension am I supposed to play the THX module with, Doom?
>
>You aren't. EJ will be converting them all to MOD format. (SOON, EJ?) He just
>does them in THX to give us an idea of what they will sound like.

I'm finishing all the musics first, if you don't mind... I'll ask the
THX author for a PT Export function (there's a PT Import option in 2.10)
so you can just export the song, load it in PT and pick the samples you
want, anyone could do this. By the way, will you be using the intro
music I sent you quite some time ago or do I have to make another one
(because of the slightly different storyline)? Is the intro also coming
SOON? ;)

-- 
Evert-Jan Slypen

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On 28-Okt-97, Matt Ward smashed the keyboard with:
>On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Jens Vang Petersen wrote:

>> Alien Breed 3D II's editors was ALL written in AMOS Pro by some lousy
>> programmer (Most buggy programs ever seen), I've rewritten 'em by the way.

>On the subject of the AB3DIIeditors they use an extension. Any ideas
>which ones? I never bothered figuring it out as I only wanted a
>curiosity look. 

Yepz, they're using the Turbo+ 1.0 extension..


>Jens - any chance your ones don't use the extension? 

Bad luck, mine uses Turbo+ 2.0 and Craft and EasyLife and NoKids and.....


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Hello everyone,

  I was wondering how I can get in touch with Chris Hodges.  I really want
to register AMCAF 
 
...Chris




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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
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Greetings.

> On 28-Oct-97, Joseph Hewitt scribbled:
>> Avaliable on Aminet, there's a tutorial avaliable entitled Space
>> Fighter. It might be worth having a look at.

> I'm  sure this was the Brian Bell one I was talking about. I may
> still have  the  source  and gfx in a box somewhere. Any probs, just
> ask and I'll look it out. What about MUSH? Doesn't he have anything
> on this in his Library?

I don't know if Mush does, but I know I do (I think I can help out on 
this one). Chris (Evans) sent me (not too long ago, first of this 
year I belive) sent me the entire set of Mr. AMOS Club disks (all 
copies from his originals) via snail-mail. They all contained all the 
source and demos from each issue (10 or 14 disks, forget exactly how 
many), and I belive the demo Joseph is looking for MAY be on that 
disk. If not, I'm sure I can find it as I've seen it before (I've got 
it somewhere), and of course get him anything off those disks if he 
needs or wants them (or to anyone).

Book (n): a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the TV repairman.

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
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Greetings.

>> There's someone making a language named "PENTOS"?
>> Is he still in the list?
 
> His name is Carl Drinkwater and he's at my university. I haven't 
> heard anything about Pentos in a long time so I'd take a guess that 
> its finished with but I may be wrong.

ye, that's the man! He WAS on the List for some time, but I haven't 
seen or heard from him since several months ago, save Pentos.

I was subscribed to the (Pentos) mailing list since it's conception 
(both the language and the list), and it was QUITE active there for 
awhile (about 6 weeks or more) with about 30 to 40+ mails a DAY. Then 
it kinda quieted down, and then it just stopped. I'm pretty sure no 
one else has heard anything since, either (from him or his list).

Last I checked his page, he hadn't made it out of the beta stages, 
but that could change (as to whether or not it's still in 
development, I'm not sure.) The language was moving fast and looked 
promising, although the (latest) beta that I (still have) got from 
his page never did work on my system (would run, graphics problems), 
but, as I said, it looked hopeful. Oh well.. hopefully one of you 
could get in contact with him, get some info.

`Remember: a penny saved is ridiculous.'

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
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>Hi all,
Hi!

>I was just wondering how many of you know about these commercial >games 
which seem to have been written with Amos...
...
>no point in me mentioning Hillsea Lido or the Valhalla Series
>by Vulcan now, is there?
Valhalla?!? In Amos? Gee, I never knew that.
...
>What other BIG games have been written in Amos? Anyone know....?
Well, not a really BIG game, but Spellbound (The SPELLING one, not the
other one), was written in amos. Check the disks.... Even the filenames 
still end with .ABK!!!!

>It's an interesting subject methinx ;)
Thats true, if only Amos was still being updated... :-(
>
>cya, Andy Gibson.
Cya, 
     James

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On 12 Oct 97 20:46:19 GMT, Mush <mushypd@redrose.net> wrote:

>The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Matt Ward, who did thus
>comment on Exec problems on the night of 11-Oct-97:
>-> Hi,
>-> To all who tried to help me with my Exec problem, thanks. I tried
>-> everything but to no avail, so maybe its my version of AP or my amiga
>-> or something. Anyway it was only a curiosity thing so I'm not too
>-> worried!
>
>Incedentally, what version of AMOSPro do you have, are you using the coverdisk
>version?
>

Hi Folks

I'm really new to AMOS, though I've done and still do some programming
in STOS.  Is there someplace I can DL the cover disk version of AMOS?

Thanks

Carl

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Subj:	Getting in touch with Chris Hodges

>Hello everyone,
>  I was wondering how I can get in touch with Chris Hodges.  I really want
>to register AMCAF 
 
I registered my copy last month, by sending cash to the address in
the documentation...

He e-mailed me my registration key, but I can't find his e-mail address
right now.  I'll look it up for you if you want, but if you want to register
it, you'll need his postal address, which is in the documentation. You
can't send money through the e-mail system (not yet, anyway....)


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Thanks to all who replied to my query - as it turns out I am actually
as up to date as possible (which is now how many years out of date??)
as I have AP and the Pro compiler! AP is in limbo though, isn't it?

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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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Date: 29 Oct 97 14:07:17 +0000
Subject: Re: Set Time
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> Why dont you drag the TIME program from the Prefs drawer into the WBStartup
> drawer and add DONOTWAIT in the tooltypes.  =)
> 
> It will boot up and show its current settings every time you reset your
> machine.

But I'll have to set it each time. I want it to be automatically set
to the last correct date used.

> I have one of those clocks that you throw in on the motherboard.  It goes in
> the "clock port".  If you want it, maybe we could trade something.  

Thanks but I'm planning on buying an accelerator soon with more RAM to
replace my current RAM board and that should have a clock with it.

-Murray


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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:54:00 -0500
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On 28-Oct-97, Evert-Jan Slypen wrote:
>>You aren't. EJ will be converting them all to MOD format. (SOON, EJ?) He
just
>>does them in THX to give us an idea of what they will sound like.
>I'm finishing all the musics first, if you don't mind.

Makes sense. I was just pointing out our plans.

>will you be using the intro
>music I sent you quite some time ago or do I have to make another one
>(because of the slightly different storyline)?

I dunno yet. Probably.

> Is the intro also coming
>SOON? ;)

Well, Keith is back online, so it should be here soon.

RIGHT, Keith?

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     Does anyone have any code that I could have a look at to get the hang 
     of the HSLIDER & VSLIDER commands.  Thanks.
     
     
     Declan.

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On 29-Okt-97, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com smashed the keyboard with:
>     
>     Does anyone have any code that I could have a look at to get the hang 
>     of the HSLIDER & VSLIDER commands.  Thanks.
>     

I've got a lot for the VSlider in the 'interface' commands, but if you
think about the standard Amos (Pro) command I can't help you, as I always
use the interface-resource, much easier when you know how....

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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Organization: Muzzasoft/Microplanet Games
Date: 29 Oct 97 14:18:20 +0000
Subject: Re: Amos for PC
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 >> There's someone making a language named "PENTOS"?
> >> Is he still in the list?
>  
> > His name is Carl Drinkwater and he's at my university. I haven't 
> > heard anything about Pentos in a long time so I'd take a guess that 
> > its finished with but I may be wrong.
> 
> ye, that's the man! He WAS on the List for some time, but I haven't 
> seen or heard from him since several months ago, save Pentos.
> Last I checked his page, he hadn't made it out of the beta stages,

His e-mail address is :  carl@scaryred.demon.co.uk

But I don't know if he accesses that one at Uni.
If he doesn't reply then I can find out his university e-mail address.

As for pentos, I get the feeling it sort of stopped because of the
summer holidays and then he couldn't be bothered going back to it.
Hes doing other programs though (games I think) and I was going to
start something with him at one point although that sort of ended once
I realised I had to actually do some work this year...
He used to have a web page at : http://www.scaryred.demon.co.uk  (I
think) but I don't kow if it's still there.

-Murray


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Hi all,

It  seems  weird  to me that some peeps have Amos Pro V2.01 and I only
have Pro V2.00!

I  bought Amos Pro and the Compiler many years ago when they were both
readily  available  from  mail  order.  My  copy  of the compiler only
updated my version of Amos Pro to V2.00 and not V2.01!

Can anyone out there really confirm that there *IS* as V2.01?

Thanx in advance....

Andy Gee!

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On 29-Oct-97, James Brown scribbled:

>Valhalla?!? In Amos? Gee, I never knew that.

It's  true.  I  have  already  ripped  some  of  the gfx from the disk
(standard  abk  files)  and ripped the sprites from the main exec file
also ;)

If  anyone wants to see 'em, just ask and I'll attache em to an email.
(It's  that  little  bloke  who  walks  about and looks up at you when
talking to ya etc.)

BTW  James,  didn't  you  used  to have some great soul singles in the
charts  a  good  few  years ago? Sex machine etc? hehehehe. Bet you've
never had things like that said to ya b4?


OK here goes...the list of Commercial games that I know of (now) to be
written in good old Amos or Amos Pro:

World Golf (Apex)
International Golf
Flight Of The Amazon Queen
Hillsea Lido (vulcan)
Valhalla Series (Vulcan)
Spellbound
Alien Breed (some editors stuff on a cover cd)
Tracksuit Manager Update 1997 disk
Genesia (never heard of it!)

Ones which may/not be Amos associated...

Stable Masters (not sure if it was full commercial tho)
Jetstrike (which was mince as far as I recall!)
Capital Punishment (password screen & Bobs! Not 100% sure on this)
Indy IV Adventure (not sure about this either! I doubt it.)
Lost on Parott Island Adv. (certain of this, not sure if commercial)

Thanx  so  far  to everyone who has emailed me some info on the above.
Any more lurking around...?

Let's  build a list up so the next time AF or CU slag Amos, we can hit
'em with a huge list of commercial stuff created with it ;)

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More AMOS made commercial games:
    JetStrike (it is for sure commercial)
    Base Jumpers (Rasputin)


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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Alastair Murray, who
did thus comment on Re: Amos for PC on the night of 29-Oct-97:

-> His e-mail address is :  carl@scaryred.demon.co.uk

Yup, thats right. He can still check it, and I imagine he is unaware of
telnet from uni, as he currently has 295 mails on it waiting to be
downloaded (an excellent FINGER ability, only available to demon customers
AFAIK, which lets you see the no. of emails any other demon member has)

-> But I don't know if he accesses that one at Uni.
-> If he doesn't reply then I can find out his university e-mail address.

I used to have this somewhere. Ill see if I can rustle it out.

-> As for pentos, I get the feeling it sort of stopped because of the
-> summer holidays and then he couldn't be bothered going back to it.
-> Hes doing other programs though (games I think) and I was going to
-> start something with him at one point although that sort of ended once
-> I realised I had to actually do some work this year...
-> He used to have a web page at : http://www.scaryred.demon.co.uk  (I
-> think) but I don't kow if it's still there.

Well, from what he told me, PENTOS is a project he is doing for school. It
was a programming language to be developed, on which the school would give
him marks for. Wether the school project itself has finished, im not sure,
but I could have sworn there were a few more weeks left.

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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> More AMOS made commercial games:
>     JetStrike (it is for sure commercial)
>     Base Jumpers (Rasputin)

   Yes, I have been doing some "digging" myself as this is a very
   interesting subject to me as well...

   Anyway, just last night I discovered that Base Jumpers was indeed
   written in AMOS (upon sifting through the gfx-files... haha).

   Wow, the platform-stage I played was pretty damn good as well,
   although I didn't care much for that "force you to climb" play-mechanic.
   I hate crap like that unless it's implemented intelligently like in
   Murray's "Banana Islands" where he uses a similiar method to good
   effect in keeping the game exciting.

   Still Base Jumpers is very impressive (based on that one stage I've
   played anyway) as far as execution is concerned...


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
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On 30-Oct-97, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote:
>     
>     Is it possible for AmosPro programs to communicate with other programs 
>     that were not written using AmosPro?

Yes. Through ARexx.

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Hi,anyone know where I can get to Chris Hodges r.e. registering AMCAF?

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To the one known as Simon,
> >     What is the largest Amos screen I can display on my tv screen?  Is it 
> >     the 640 x 512 Hi-Res screen?  I am trying to do a front panel for a 
> >     program and I can't seem to fit it all into the screen without it 
> >     looking crammed.  I am using the smallest font I have which is DPaint 
> >     font size 5 and it still looks pretty cluttered.

Errrr, actually it's about 704x234.....

Interlaced goes all funny on WB3.1 and can't be displayed.  I say 234 'cos the
american's will hit me if I say the real number ;-)

cyagain.

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To the one known as Garfield,
>    Okay, so has no one tried out the AIG or (more likely) has no one 
>    bothered to give me any feedback?

Havmn't tried it, but my grabber works thusly:
	Create a nice 640*512(whatever!)*64 colour screen in ppaint/dpaint/other...

	Load it up.
	while not bored
		Click on anything that looks like a bob/icon/shape/graphic
		Wait a second...
	wend
	save bobs/icons.

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>From:	Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com
>Subj:	Communicating with other programs
>
>     Is it possible for AmosPro programs to communicate with other programs 
>     that were not written using AmosPro?

Yup.... Arexx.

Ok, so AmosPro's Arexx support isn't brilliant, but it does exist.


That's all.

     SimonC.


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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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Date: 30 Oct 97 13:57:18 +0000
Subject: Re: Commercial Games
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>    Wow, the platform-stage I played was pretty damn good as well,
>    although I didn't care much for that "force you to climb" play-mechanic.
>    I hate crap like that unless it's implemented intelligently like in
>    Murray's "Banana Islands" where he uses a similiar method to good
>    effect in keeping the game exciting.

Well I could hardly take any credit for that.... I think Rainbow
Islands might have done it first... 

-Murray

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On 29-Oct-97, Keith Hill wrote:
>> >Well...  after losing my CD32 drive in september, on the first of
>> >october my new tower system decides to fail.
>> You're the only one with a real excuse.
>a)Target finishing the game.

Yes, we're in the final month. (You reading this, Adam?)

>b)Target getting what I have already got, running with 1MB Chip.
>(means some interesting routines that everyone wants)

Me included. You samples from Fast Ram is a routine I'd like to see.

>c)Something else.

The anims? The ANIMS?

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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On 30-Oct-97, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote:    
>     Is it possible for AmosPro programs to communicate with other programs 
>     that were not written using AmosPro?

Rexx port.
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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     Is it possible for AmosPro programs to communicate with other programs 
     that were not written using AmosPro?

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From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>
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> Havmn't tried it, but my grabber works thusly:
>          Create a nice 640*512(whatever!)*64 colour screen in
>          ppaint/dpaint/other...

> 	Load it up.
> 	while not bored
> 		Click on anything that looks like a bob/icon/shape/graphic
> 		Wait a second...
> 	wend
> 	save bobs/icons.


   Hmmm... sounds reasonable enough.  Grab the AIG archive from my
   Webpage, I think you'll like it... maybe.


   Also, did you receive the code I sent you for direct-mouse reading?


      Take  care,   
      GARFIELD
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Is there any mode promotion utility/system patch avaliable that would
allow AMOS programs to be used on a VGA monitor?

                              - Joseph Hewitt.


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mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie wrote on 30-Okt-97:

> Hi,anyone know where I can get to Chris Hodges r.e. registering AMCAF?

Yes, I'm still here on the list...

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On 29-Oct-97, James Brown wrote:

>>Hi all,
>Hi!

>>I was just wondering how many of you know about these commercial >games 
>which seem to have been written with Amos...
>...
>>no point in me mentioning Hillsea Lido or the Valhalla Series
>>by Vulcan now, is there?
>Valhalla?!? In Amos? Gee, I never knew that.
>...
>>What other BIG games have been written in Amos? Anyone know....?

I know these are not games but I think all the fun school and 
10 out of 10 educational progs are written in amos

neil



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On 30-Oct-97, ol' wise one, Matt Ward started to babble about...
>Hi,anyone know where I can get to Chris Hodges r.e. registering AMCAF?
Yeah, I found his e-mail address.  It's *Platon@cu-muc.de*.  Just send him
that little page included in the docs about registering to that address.

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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was neil Bramwell, who did
thus comment on Re: Commercial Games on the night of 30-Oct-97:

-> I know these are not games but I think all the fun school and 
-> 10 out of 10 educational progs are written in amos

Yeah, most of it was. If you look in the Amiga Format (October??) they had
a selection of various educational software, of which most was done in
AMOS. I know for a fact, Playdays Paint was done in AMOS (The kids TV show
playbus) and it got crap marks.

I did have a list somewhere of AMOS written stuff, as I scour the mags for
it, but i'll be darned if I know where I put it...

Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
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The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Joseph Hewitt, who did
thus comment on AMOS and VGA monitors on the night of 30-Oct-97:
-> Is there any mode promotion utility/system patch avaliable that would
-> allow AMOS programs to be used on a VGA monitor?

Hehe, im just reminising this problem I had over here. I couldnt use AMOS
for three months because of this problem. I tried everything under the sun,
but there isnt a software patch anywhere which will do it, I tried around
20 altogether.

The only way to be able to do it, is have a box which electronically
converts the signal outside of the amiga, as the screenmodes AMOS uses are
not promotable.

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To: "'Andy Gibson'" <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>
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>BTW  James,  didn't  you  used  to have some great soul singles in the
>charts  a  good  few  years ago? Sex machine etc? hehehehe. Bet you've
>never had things like that said to ya b4?
I know James, and I've never said that to him, he'd probably get
annoyed.  (i once did get some mail which said "James Brown is only half
>dead.")
>
>OK here goes...the list of Commercial games that I know of (now) to be
>written in good old Amos or Amos Pro:
>
>World Golf (Apex)
>International Golf
>Flight Of The Amazon Queen
>Hillsea Lido (vulcan)
>Valhalla Series (Vulcan)
>Spellbound
>Alien Breed (some editors stuff on a cover cd)
>Tracksuit Manager Update 1997 disk
>Genesia (never heard of it!)  
>It's a populas clone 
>Ones which may/not be Amos associated...
>
>Stable Masters (not sure if it was full commercial tho)
>Jetstrike (which was mince as far as I recall!)
	IS written in amos
>Capital Punishment (password screen & Bobs! Not 100% sure on this)
>Indy IV Adventure (not sure about this either! I doubt it.)
	written with custom software (SCUMM engine)
>Lost on Parott Island Adv. (certain of this, not sure if commercial)
>
>Thanx  so  far  to everyone who has emailed me some info on the above.
>Any more lurking around...?
>
>Let's  build a list up so the next time AF or CU slag Amos, we can hit
>'em with a huge list of commercial stuff created with it ;)
>
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From: Jamie Bentley <sniper@technet2000.com.au>
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 God how I agree about the library idea...

 It would be a small, easy to hack, well done idea (not 500000 new bloody commands to learn like the "Jade" extension is promosing to be (why don't they just make their own bloody basic language???)

 Jamie Bentley
 

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Greetings.

> I used to have this somewhere. Ill see if I can rustle it out.
ye, think I have it to, just didn't give it (no one asked).

> Well, from what he told me, PENTOS is a project he is doing for
> school. It was a programming language to be developed, on which the
> school would give him marks for.

ye, think everyone already knew this.

> Wether the school project itself has finished, im not sure, but I 
> could have sworn there were a few more weeks left.

If it WAS a school project (I remeber VAGUE mention of it being one, 
not prominently though), then he may have halted it. To the best of 
my knowledge (last I checked), he hadn't updated the Pentos page in 
quite some time, and as I said, I have the latest beta which he ALSO 
hasn't updated for some time (everything just went dead, as I said).

Bagpipes (n): an octopus wearing a kilt.

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
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Greetings.

> It  seems  weird  to me that some peeps have Amos Pro V2.01 and I
> only have Pro V2.00!

hm, "peeps", eh? "Well well well, lookie what we have here."

> I  bought Amos Pro and the Compiler many years ago when they were
> both readily  available  from  mail  order.  My  copy  of the
> compiler only updated my version of Amos Pro to V2.00 and not V2.01!

Technically (aside from version numbers), there ARE nO differences 
between the two different versions. To my knowledge, there were no 
major bugs fixed or significant updates made between the two 
versions, so there's not REALLY any need for concern (unless you 
really want to waste the money to update).
 
> Can anyone out there really confirm that there *IS* as V2.01?
Yes, I *CAN* (and WILL if you want) do this. I OWN it.

`Remember: the only thing that hurts more than paying
income tax is not having to pay income tax.'

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
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Hello: AmosListers

Can any one make a terminate, and stay resident program IE a prog that will
run even if a game shuts down the WB?

I need a prog that will flip the Agnus to NTSC when a program like TFX, or
Star Crusader flip it to PAL.

Eric Hyland
a007193t@bc.seflin.org



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From: Jamie Bentley <sniper@technet2000.com.au>
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 Hey um, Garfield?

 No, oh well, one of you offered to digitise some samples for me..

 I was wondering if you could digitize about 15 or so seconds of Luke Skywalker and Darth Vadar fighting (I need the sounds of their sword thingos)...

 Thanks (Highest Quality you can give, this isn't for a game)
 
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>  Hey um, Garfield?

   Yes...


>  No, oh well, one of you offered to digitise some samples for me..

   Yes, I did indeed make this offer!!


> I was wondering if you could digitize about 15 or so seconds of Luke
> Skywalker and Darth Vadar fighting (I need the sounds of their sword
> thingos)...

   Hmmm... well, I would glad to help you, but what you are asking is
   going to be very difficult to produce. I'd need some kind of recording
   of the fighting sequence you are referring to.


>  Thanks (Highest Quality you can give, this isn't for a game)

   Well, I can digitize at 44,100Hz in 16-bit stereo which sounds truly
   excellent (CD-quality), but I don't think that would be necessary.

   Problem is locating a good source for the recording.

   I think I could "synthethize" that sound the light sabers make...
   Yeah, a sort of muffled hum... let me give it a try, it'll be fun!


   Anyway, I'm replying to the list also as somebody else might have
   access to this movie. Giark? You do a good job with these things
   you could probably create the entire 15-second fight-sequence
   with your own vocal abilities? maybe??


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andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk wrote on 31-Okt-97:

> One thing tho, I've not heard from Chris for a while? Has anyone???

Don't panic! :)

I'm just been busy for a while, doing various stuff, and an small update of
AMCAF for regged users is about to come up in near future...

Sorry for mails been still unreplied, I'll get back  to  them  as  soon  as
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Subj:	Re: AMOS and VGA monitors

Joseph Hewitt wrote:
 >Is there any mode promotion utility/system patch avaliable that would
 >allow AMOS programs to be used on a VGA monitor?

Amos screens are absolutely *not* promotable via software.
You can write your Amos programs to use higher res screens if you've got
the right extension (I think?), but you've still got the problem of using
Amos itself.... (maybe someone could write an editor that can load/save
Amos progs that runs under decent screen modes?)

When I was looking to buy a graphics card, I thought I might have to give
up Amos, but then I saw the Picasso IV, which has a video pass-through,
and scan-doubles all the PAL/NTSC video screens to VGA spec.

I'm now using Amos on my PicassoIV equipped A4000, with no problems.
Other graphics cards aren't so fortunate, though.

You can also buy 'flicker-fixers' which scan-double your display for
use with a VGA monitor. They were quite cheap for the A2000, and the
A3000 has one built in, but if you're using an A4000, they currently
cost more than [I think] they're worth.

If you're using an A1200, I don't think you're going to have much
luck finding any suitable hardware scan-doublers.


Well, good luck with it.....


       Simon Champion.

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On 30 Oct 1997, Alastair Murray wrote:

> >    Wow, the platform-stage I played was pretty damn good as well,
> >    although I didn't care much for that "force you to climb" play-mechanic.
> >    I hate crap like that unless it's implemented intelligently like in
> >    Murray's "Banana Islands" where he uses a similiar method to good
> >    effect in keeping the game exciting.
> 
> Well I could hardly take any credit for that.... I think Rainbow
> Islands might have done it first... 
> 
Slightly (?) unrelated but seeing Rainbow Islands mentioned made me
remember something. The ST (boo) version of Rainbow Islands had its
levels designed using the map editor that came with STOS. SO maybe the
Amiga version ... or maybe not

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On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Eric Hyland wrote:

> Hello: AmosListers
> 
> Can any one make a terminate, and stay resident program IE a prog that will
> run even if a game shuts down the WB?
> 
> I need a prog that will flip the Agnus to NTSC when a program like TFX, or
> Star Crusader flip it to PAL.
> 
> Eric Hyland
> a007193t@bc.seflin.org

I have a hack at home to convert between the two modes
I'll send it Monday

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On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Mush wrote:

> The man most directly responsible for this twaddle was Joseph Hewitt, who did
> thus comment on AMOS and VGA monitors on the night of 30-Oct-97:
> -> Is there any mode promotion utility/system patch avaliable that would
> -> allow AMOS programs to be used on a VGA monitor?
> 
> Hehe, im just reminising this problem I had over here. I couldnt use AMOS
> for three months because of this problem. I tried everything under the sun,
> but there isnt a software patch anywhere which will do it, I tried around
> 20 altogether.
> 
> The only way to be able to do it, is have a box which electronically
> converts the signal outside of the amiga, as the screenmodes AMOS uses are
> not promotable.
> 
> Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett
> --
Yeah me too - I used a VGA monitor with my 4000 as I thought the
640x256 workbench screen looked crap - except good ol Amos needs the
standard 1084 monitor or equivalent. So I now have a crap looking
chunky workbench! 

I just saw Andrew's comment there and thought of something I saw. You
know the way Amos screens just sit on intuition screens and dont move
about when you use the Amiga m keypress. I saw a small proggy that
forced amos screens onto an intuition type screen by whacking various
hardware registors. Would that mean promotion or similar progs could
get at the screen to change its res? I can't try this as I've ditched
the VGA monitor (well given it to a home-made PEECEE) but I'll send it
to anyone who wants to give it a look!

cyas

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From: Jamie Bentley <sniper@technet2000.com.au>
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 Hi guys/gals,

 I was making a small Space Invaders clone just for the hell of it, and it goes fairly slowly in the editor (its not a problem), and when compiled it goes nicely...

 But it keeps quitting and saying there's an "Illegal Function" when its compiled... The editor doesn't find any, I think its the "Bob Off" command which is doing it...

 Also, could somebody optimize the code a little for me?

 Just reply and I'll send you the source (its about 9 k)
 
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <joehick@golden.net>
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On 31-Oct-97, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>> I was wondering if you could digitize about 15 or so seconds of Luke
>> Skywalker and Darth Vadar fighting
>might have
>   access to this movie. Giark? You do a good job with these things

I'll look into it. I have the movie somewhere.

Well met and godspeed,
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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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> -> His e-mail address is :  carl@scaryred.demon.co.uk
> 
> Yup, thats right. He can still check it, and I imagine he is unaware of
> telnet from uni, as he currently has 295 mails on it waiting to be
> downloaded (an excellent FINGER ability, only available to demon customers
> AFAIK, which lets you see the no. of emails any other demon member has)

> I used to have this somewhere. Ill see if I can rustle it out.

Used to be cpd@cs.nott.ac.uk
Its now: cpd95c@cs.not.ac.uk

Hes got another uni one too but I don't have that one.

-Murray

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To the one known as Jamie,

>  Hey um, Garfield?
>  No, oh well, one of you offered to digitise some samples for me..
>  I was wondering if you could digitize about 15 or so seconds of Luke Skywalker and Darth Vadar fighting (I need the sounds of their sword thingos)...

Good luck on the copyright clearence.  Remember when they sued the
US Government ??

cyagain.

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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
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Date: 31 Oct 97 16:52:44 +0000
Subject: Re: AMOS and VGA monitors
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> Amos screens are absolutely *not* promotable via software.
> You can write your Amos programs to use higher res screens if you've got
> the right extension (I think?), but you've still got the problem of using
> Amos itself.... (maybe someone could write an editor that can load/save
> Amos progs that runs under decent screen modes?)

This is one of the most common complaints I hear about AMOS.
I think it's quite important too so if anyone can come with an
extension or utility to allow amos creations to work with mode
promotion then I'd ..... be very happy (?)
Anyway, I think it would do alot to move amos to modern standards.
So anyone think they're up to it?

-Murray

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Hiya all...

Just a real small and quick one for now...

Have ya ever lost your mouse pointer (Due to hide on etc) ???

Simply  go  into  Direct Mode and press HELP and it will appear. Saves
you having to type in Show On ;)


This  is  probably  commom  knowledge,  but  the V1.10 of Easylife now
requires  a library to be present in LIBS: or your Amos Compiled jobby
won't  work! (if it uses Easylife commands that is). I only just found
this out tonight after messing about with tis version of Easylife!

Sorry if you all knew about it....

I  was  reading  through  the  Amos  Pro  online help and there was NO
mention  of  an Amos Pro V2.01. Where is everyone getting this version
from? (I have V2.00)

There  was  some  talk about AGA support in the future (Ha!) by simply
updating the Amos pro library which can be shared between the compiler
and  interpreter. I know Chris hodges hacked the lib for his Amcaf, do
ya  think it's poss to hack it for AGA support also, or is this asking
too much?

Better dash...

cya, Andy Gee!


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From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Oct 31 23:27:22 1997
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From: Eric Hyland <a007193t@bc.seflin.org>
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On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Matt Ward wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Eric Hyland wrote:
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> > Hello: AmosListers
> >[SNIP] 
> 
> I have a hack at home to convert between the two modes
> I'll send it Monday
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Cool looking forward to running TFX on my NTSC TV thanks.

Eric Hyland
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