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From: Steve Bye <Steve@f1lw.demon.co.uk>
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Two members of this list are now in possession of J-Windows, the new
mega-extension from F1. Give it a few days and they will hopefully give you
their honest opinions on it. They are both F1 programmers but they are also
both honest guys and I have asked them to be on the level andgive us the
good and bad points, so until then hold your enquiries about J-Windows or
Demon will shut me down :-)
 
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From p.j.hutchison@hud.ac.uk Wed May  1 07:39:23 1996
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From: Peter Hutchison <p.j.hutchison@hud.ac.uk>
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>
>Hello all,
>
> > But now that I've rediscovered the power of my A1200 and the
> > love for programming 'that perfect game', I don't see any
> > good programming language in PC-land. In fact, AMOS is just
> > what I need. Well, so it seems. Any comments?
>
>Now, let's pretend the Amiga die and in the next 10 years I have to buy a
>
>PC
>(I hope it's just a nightmare...) and I want continue programming as well
>as
>I'm doing with Amos: is there something like it for Pc?
>That's not a problem Blitz or Amos like, but is there a so easy, fast and
>powerful tool for Pc?
>
>Bye
>
There is Visual basic 4 and as for game creators you`ll have to look around 
as there
are only a few around!

Peter

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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:38:26 +0200 (MET DST)
From: jonasth@bahnhof.se (Jonas Thorell)
To: amos-list@access.digex.net (amos-list)
Subject: Locale extension
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If you are able to read this, your reader is not MIME compliant.
If you are using an Amiga, use THOR to avoid the problem.
If you are not, use some other MIME compliant reader.

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Okay, as I've had no objections to my posting of the locale extension her=
e,
here it comes. My sincere apologies to those of you who already has it bu=
t
since it's under 10k in length, it won't take that long time to download.


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> 
> Anyone know the e-mail of the author of LDos extension? Now it
> bugs with Arexx commands.

I knew this is the case with the LDos for Amos1.3.
 You may want to make use of AmosPro-arexx
 abilities.


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> > > Anyone know the e-mail of the author of LDos extension? Now it
> > > bugs with Arexx commands.
> > I knew this is the case with the LDos for Amos1.3.
> I'm using Pro 2.0
> >  You may want to make use of AmosPro-arexx
> >  abilities.
> They are just not enough for my needs. I use Exec "SYS:rexxc/rx ..." 
> for now, but i don't like it..
Anyone out there even tried something serious with the
'Arexx-interface' from AmosPro ?
I once tried to get information from amos to FinalWriter2,
but I gave up. 
Also, how can the Arexx speed be upgraded ?


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Greetings Paul, you wrote some text on the subject JWindows Multi Task?,
and now I'm going to answer it

PB> When I try to run more than one of those J Windows demo's it comes
PB> up with a message "Out of memory". Does anyone else get this problem or
PB> is it just me? I've got 1.5 meg of chip left and over 3 meg of fast and
PB> it still comes up with out of memory.

Haven't looked at the demo version, but I haven't had any memory problems.
I have 2Mb chip + 4Mb fast.

PB> Due to the fact that JWindows is supposed to Multitask I thought I'd
PB> give it a try but I can't see how I'm supposed to test it's multitasking
PB> abilities without being able to run more than one at a time :-/
PB> 
PB> I'm especially interested in seeing something like the fractal program on
PB> a screen that can be dragged. If it can multitask, why can't we see some
PB> demo's that do? I'd like to write real Workbench versions of some of my
PB> utilities with some AGA OS screen modes but until I see something that can
PB> do it in AMOS I'll have to stick with Blitz...
PB> 
PB> I'm aware that some people on this list have the JWindows extension so maybe
PB> someone can put me right on these things...

It doesn't multitask.

I think by saying "JWindows can multitask", what was meant was that it works
with real WB apps running as well.

Bye _________________________________
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 > Hi,
 > 
 > Due to the fact that JWindows is supposed to Multitask I thought I'd
 > give it a try but I can't see how I'm supposed to test it's
 > multitasking
 > abilities without being able to run more than one at a time :-/

The J Windows offer a multitask windows event management, but not
Multitasking program! .... the AmosPro compiler is lame! But... now
on aminet there is available my last creation: the GUI compiler! get it
, and your problems will finish!

 > I'm especially interested in seeing something like the fractal program
 > on
 > a screen that can be dragged. If it can multitask, why can't we see
 > some
 > demo's that do? I'd like to write real Workbench versions of some of my
 > utilities with some AGA OS screen modes but until I see something that
 > can
 > do it in AMOS I'll have to stick with Blitz...

Blitz? No,no no no.... get the GUI compiler :)) You need the Gui
extension for using the GUI compiler! :)

 > Cheers,
 > 
 > Paul

Bye!


< Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft >  -  E-Mail: ghizzo@galactica.it
          Italy Amos User Club Coordinator --- Team AMIGA

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Just a quick problem I need help with:

When I try installing extensions such as Easylife and JDLib the 
program won't accept them. I've put them in APSystem folder and 
entered the extension names in the interpreter config file in the 
correct space. However, when I load AmosPro it says `can't load 
extension' even though I know it has found the extension (by using 
Snoopdos).
I may have forgotten a seemingly unimportant file when 
configuring the system files (I seem to have lost 'AutoExec.amos')
- but alas I've left the original at home several hundred miles away!

Also, the TurboCraft extension I have installed, although it doesn't
cause the same problem as above, it causes problems when I compile
within amospro. Whatever code I try to compile it says something
along the lines of `Disk error: object not found` even if I compile just
`print "hello"`. But when I compile from the compiler disk outside
AMOSPro it works!

If you could help and suggest what the problems may be I would be very 
grateful.

Anthony Short.


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> Just a quick problem I need help with:
> 
> When I try installing extensions such as Easylife and JDLib the 
> program won't accept them. 

Does your amiga have any fast mem?
JD extension seems to need some...

- JK -

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Hy there,

I hope that this is not an automatic server, I tried an HELP mail yesterday
but got no reply. I'm new to the amos mailing list so do not know how to use 
it properly, if possible could U send me an help file with commands and rules.

I'm an dedicated amige user for the last 12 years now and am working with the 
Amos series for over 5 years now. Recently I downloaded some optimisation tips
from Aminet and implemented a couple of them in a optimisation tool.

I'm interested in the contact with other amos users, maybe even working with 
some of them. Hopefully this mail reaches a person instead of a routine, if so
thanx for your time and effort.

Greetz, Mike de Clerck

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(I am resending this message as it does not appear to have made it)

As you all may or may not know, I was doing a WWW form for users to fill
out about bug reports.  There would also be one where you could enter,
possibly, fixes for the bugs, workarounds, or maybe just some general hints
and tips.  I am almost finished with the form (work, school, and life have
slowed me down) but I need someone to write a script that will take the
output from the form and put it into some form of database that could be
searched, etc.  Hickman also helped on the form and started me on the script
but I don't have time to write a little database.

If anyone would like to help, let me know.  It will run on a SPARC with
Solaris 2.4.  

Michael
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Here is a list of files on Aminet.  If there are other files that have been
done in AMOS, let me know (maybe send me the line from Aminet's INDEX
file).

Thanks.

Filename           Location   Size Description
------------------ --------   ---- -----------
3DAmosDemo.lha     dev/amos    11K 151+AMOS demo source of 3D game
abk2mod.lha        dev/amos   101K   6+Converts AMOS Music Banks into ProTracke
alien_breed_3.lha  dev/amos    15K   7+Tank duel, Alien Breed 3 clone
ALottoWin.lha      dev/amos    69K  18+ALottoWin v1.0 random LOTTO numbers.
alt-amos-faq.lha   dev/amos     5K  12+Alt.religion.amos Newsgroup FAQ
Amastermind.lha    game/board 124K 235+Mastermind type game written in AMOS. V1
AMCAFExt140Exa.lha dev/amos   726K  13+Examples for the AMCAF extension
AMCAFExt140InD.lha dev/amos   507K  13+Latest demovers of the AMCAF-Ext GERMAN
AMCAFExt140InE.lha dev/amos   499K  12+Latest demovers of the AMCAF-Ext ENGLISH
AMCAFUpd140Exa.lha dev/amos   366K  12+Examples UPDATE for the AMCAF extension
AMCAFUpd140InD.lha dev/amos   185K  12+Latest UPDATE of the AMCAF-Ext GERMAN
AMCAFUpd140InE.lha dev/amos   179K  12+Latest UPDATE of the AMCAF-Ext ENGLISH
amos-list.lha      dev/amos   122K 152+Archive containing AMOS related e-mail d
amos-meetings.txt  docs/anno    1K   6+IRC meetings about Amos and Amos Pro
AMOS-PD-CD.txt     docs/rview   5K  83 Programmer: AMOS PD CD
Amos.guide02.lha   dev/amos    64K  98+A amigaguide help file for amos v0.2
AMOS.txt           docs/rview  13K 207 Programmer: AMOS: The Creator
AMOS3D.txt         docs/rview   8K 207 Programmer: AMOS 3D and Compiler
AMOSClubUK.lha     dev/amos    12K 133+How North American AMOS coders can join
amosgeil.lha       dev/amos    92K  19+Some great Amos procs
AMOSList-0195.lzh  dev/amos   183K  64+Messages about AMOS during January 1995
AMOSList-0196.lzh  dev/amos   236K  12+Messages about AMOS during January 1996
AMOSList-0295.lzh  dev/amos   197K  60+Messages about AMOS during February 1995
AMOSList-0296.lzh  dev/amos   195K   7+Messages about AMOS during February 1996
AMOSList-0395.lzh  dev/amos   100K  55+Messages about AMOS during March 1995
AMOSList-0396.lzh  dev/amos   107K   4+Messages about AMOS during March 1996
AMOSList-0495.lzh  dev/amos   100K  52+Messages about AMOS during April 1995
AMOSList-0595.lzh  dev/amos   122K  47+Messages about AMOS during May 1995
AMOSList-0694.lzh  dev/amos    39K  95+Messages about AMOS during June 1994
AMOSList-0695.lzh  dev/amos   156K  43+Messages about AMOS during June 1995
AMOSList-0794.lzh  dev/amos   112K  91+Messages about AMOS during July 1994
AMOSList-0795.lzh  dev/amos   154K  38+Messages about AMOS during July 1995
AMOSList-0894.lzh  dev/amos   177K  86+Messages about AMOS during August 1994
AMOSList-0895.lzh  dev/amos   295K  34+Messages about AMOS during August 1995
AMOSList-0994.lzh  dev/amos   132K  82+Messages about AMOS during September 199
AMOSList-0995.lzh  dev/amos   331K  29+Messages about AMOS during September 199
AMOSList-1094.lzh  dev/amos   160K  78+Messages about AMOS during October 1994
AMOSList-1095.lzh  dev/amos   263K  25+Messages about AMOS during October 1995
AMOSList-1194.lzh  dev/amos   253K  73+Messages about AMOS during November 1994
AMOSList-1195.lzh  dev/amos    90K  20+Messages about AMOS during November 1995
AMOSList-1294.lzh  dev/amos    97K  69+Messages about AMOS during December 1994
AMOSList-1295.lzh  dev/amos   545K  17+Messages about AMOS during December 1995
AMOSList0993.lzh   dev/amos   335K 133+Archive of messages in September 93 on t
AMOSMEDPlayer.lha  dev/amos    54K 184 MED player for AMOS
AmosMultiEnv11.lha dev/amos    37K 110+Select a .Env file on loading AMOS - Upd
amosopal.lha       gfx/board   12K 135+AMOS Extension to access Opal.library.
AMOSProfession.txt docs/rview   6K 182 Programmer: Amos Professional
amosprog.lha       dev/amos     8K  29+Some useful AMOS procedures
amosutil.lha       dev/amos     2K 212+Small AMOS tools
AmosUtils.lha      dev/amos     7K   5+Two useful Amos accessories
AMOSZine.lha       dev/amos   266K  19+A demo of AMOSZine
Amos_ADTS.lha      dev/amos    31K 102+Add Abstract Data type Support to Amos
AMOS_games.lha     game/misc  155K  31+Two AMOS games, about 2 1/2 years old
amos_modplay3.lha  mus/play   108K 109+MOD. music player coded in AMOS
amtudemo.lha       dev/amos    68K 126+Demo of AMTUITION, allows simulation of 
Am_Mui10.lha       dev/amos    65K  89+Use MUI from AMOSPro
anim2bob.lha       dev/amos    10K   0+AMOS_PRO only. Grab *.anim files like bo
APME14.lzh         dev/amos    95K  31+Choose different extensions when loading
ArtCoder.lha       dev/amos    70K  15+"Dpaint" that writes AMOS graphics code
Auto.lha           game/think 178K  12+Quiz-Game in AMOS.
bab101.lha         game/demo   86K  15+Born Again Bad Game Demo w/AMOSPro 2.0
beast_scroll.lha   dev/amos    36K   7+3 layered parallax scroll
CD32-Joypad.lha    dev/amos     5K   3+Read CD32 joypad from Amos.
chaneques_1.lha    game/think 416K  83+Great puzzle game,good gfx,Disk 1/2,Amos
chaneques_2.lha    game/think 397K  83+Great puzzle game,good gfx,Disk 2,Amos
ChooseEnv.lha      dev/amos     7K 114+Select a .Env file on loading AMOS
CLR_Licensewar.lha dev/amos 5+Early Sneech Game in AMOS Source code.
Dome.lha           game/misc  183K  29+Amos strategy game beta demo version
Exit16v2.lha       game/think 103K  72+Simple puzzle game written in AMOS.
fantasy.lha        game/shoot 160K  22+Nice shoot'em up made in Amos
FixLock.lha        util/cdity   5K  30+Fixes problems with eg. AMOS and MuFS
freeway.lha        game/misc  123K  33+AMOS Game simlar to Frogger or croak    
Grafik.lha         gfx/fract   52K  75+Fractal-Pattern-Generator in AMOS (germa
gridloc.lha        comm/radio  48K  86+(AMOS) Amateur Radio grid square calc
Jump.lha           game/think 106K  75+A AMOS-Game in german...
MadAMOS.lha        util/blank 205K  15+Nine older blankers for Madhouse, try th
MatrixBlaster.lha  game/misc  299K 122 TRON Light Cycles in AMOS
MazeTest.lha       gfx/misc   114K  58+Iff map reading program in Amos
mdb2_0.lha         biz/dbase  327K   7+Movie Database written in AMOS
Memory.lha         game/think  56K  75+Memory-Game in AMOS (Trimory-Version, ge
ObjManip.lha       dev/basic  207K  25+IFF Brushes, BlitzII shapes, AMOS Bobs+I
Pacmans-Return.lha game/misc  237K  29+Amos stylish conversion of THE GAME
Paint.lha          game/misc   45K  12+Little game in AMOS
PIXX_Master.lha    gfx/edit    71K  30+Drawing program, written in AMOS, 3 year
PongTourney1.0.lha game/misc  118K  95+Pre-release of AMOS Pong game.
RadarRatRun.lha    game/misc  384K  31+A maze game Written in AmosPro.
reorder.lha        dev/basic   24K   2+Sorts Amos or HiSoft programs.(v1.1)
rgallery.lha       pix/misc    42K  15+Temporary paintings created with AMOSPro
rpgedito.lzh       game/role  297K  12+RPG Creator written in AMOS
space_fighter.lha  dev/amos    54K   7+"Street Fighter" clone
spritegr.lha       dev/amos    67K  12+A cool one-click sprite grabber for AMOS
SRM-V2_2.lha       dev/amos    17K 100+An upgrade to the Resource Bank Maker
SRMv23.lha         dev/amos    45K  74+An upgrade to the Resource Bank Maker
stars.lha          dev/amos     7K 148+AGA Supporting AMOS extension with starf
stormcrunch2.lha   dev/amos    91K 109+AMOS cruncher for files/executables (AMO
Strom.lha          biz/dbase   52K  12+Electricity consumption database in AMOS
strong1.lha        dev/amos    94K 164+Demo using TURBO in AMOS
SupraProcedure.lha dev/amos    20K  11+A collection of AMOS/AMOSPRO Procedures
swarm.lha          dev/amos    56K 103+Swarm! lines fly to mouse pointer - very
tag-w-amos.lha     game/2play 303K  42+TAG, with amos.library 2+
tamelibs.lha       dev/amos    21K 163+Addendum to amos92.dms for TAME
TBSdemo9.lha       dev/amos   106K 101+AMOS Bob/Sprite editor.
tscene1.lha        dev/amos   147K 112+Demo of scene/map editor with TURBO Plus
TTT.lha            game/think  48K  75+Tic-Tac-Toe in AMOS (V0.6, german)
turbo1.lha         dev/amos   103K 112+Demo of TURBO Plus.  Includes full list 
UniWaveDemo.lha    dev/amos    65K  54+Cool programming demo in AMOS!
unlocker.lha       dev/amos     5K   1+Unlocks AMOS locked procedures
VarCheck101.lha    dev/amos    11K  89+Update to easylife variable checker
walk.lha           dev/amos   188K  11+Source for dungeon walk like in Beholder
ZoneEditor3.lha    dev/amos    65K  90+Includes Editor Enhancer.



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Also, let me know if there are any changes, additions, or deletions to this
list.

	AMOS				AMOS Pro
1+	Music or EME v4.64		Music or EME v4.64
2	Compact v1.2			Picture Compactor v2.00
3	Request v1.41			Requester v2.00
4	3D v1.00			3D v1.02AP
5	Compiler v1.36			Pro Compiler v2.00
6	Serial v1.2			IO Devices v2.00
7	TOME v4.24
8	CText v2.5
9	Range (AMOS Club Ext.) v2.8
10	Dump Lib
10	LDos v2.5			LDos v2.5
11	LSer v2.1			LSer v2.1
12	TURBO PLUS v1.0			TURBO PLUS v1.0
14-	Intuition v1.3			Intuition v1.3
15	DSAM v????			DSAM v????
16*	EasyLife v1.4b			EasyLife v1.4b
18	CRAFT v1.00			CRAFT v1.00
19	MusiCRAFT v1.00			MusiCRAFT v1.00
20-*	AMOS OS Interface v3.4		AMOS OS Interface v3.4
21*	PRT_Extension v1.1		PRT_Extension v1.1
22*	JD_Extension v4.6		JD_Extension v4.6

(+ = EME is Enhanced Music Extension and is a replacement of the Music.Lib)
(- = These are 2 Intuition extensions.  Extension #14 is by Andrew Church and
     is excellently easy!)
(* = Not official as far as I know, so the numbers may change)
(NOTE: Andrew's Intuition extension is now OFFICIAL!  Also, v1.3 will be
released either the week of the Feb 6 or Feb 13.)

Michael
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Michael Cox                                Work: michaelc@gsg.eds.com 
A1200/465/CD + 1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED!     Play: mcox@access.digex.net
             For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me!
	  AMOS WWW: http://mmm.mbhs.edu/cgi-bin/achurch/amos/


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Is there an extension available to allow easy audio digitizing from a 
Perfect Sound or DSS8 hardware?  Or, has anyone made a procedure for this that
they would be willing to share?


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To the one known as AoD,

> Here is a list of files on Aminet.  If there are other files that hav=
e been
> done in AMOS, let me know (maybe send me the line from Aminet's INDEX
> file).

> Filename           Location   Size Description
> CD32-Joypad.lha    dev/amos     5K   3+Read CD32 joypad from Amos.

Mine ;-)

> reorder.lha        dev/basic   24K   2+Sorts Amos or HiSoft programs.=
(v1.1)

Also mine, but not written in amos.  Save your proggie as ascii, and it=
'll
sort your procedures into alphabetical order !!  Amazing stuff huh. =20

=20_   _   _        _     _   _     |     _   _     _        _   _   _
|_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ |  | | /   |  |  |   \ | |  | _| | /| |_| |_| <_|
|_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_  .  |  .  _/ |_| _| _| |/ | | | / | <_|
=20                                 |
(it's hard writing in a mirror)   |   (rrorim a ni gnitirw drah s`ti)

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Hello,

 > Here is a list of files on Aminet.  If there are other files that have
 > been done in AMOS, let me know (maybe send me the line from Aminet's
 > INDEX file).

Check below for other programs... :-)))

Bye


  +----------ON AMINET-----------+
  | game/think/navalbattle.lha   +----------------------------------+
  | game/shoot/in_the_target.lha | Michele_Berionne@amp.flashnet.it |
  | game/shhot/fantasy.lha       | M.Berionne@agora.stm.it          |
  | game/think/atoms.lha         +----------------------------------+
  | game/think/Manos.lha         |                                  |
| dev/lang/Logo1_4.lha         |         >> Bomb!1.5 beta <<      |
  | util/time/MReminder.lha      |                                  |
  +------------------------------+----------------------------------+
  |BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN.    |
  +-----------------------------------------------------------------+





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On 23-Apr-96 21:22:20, ghizzo@galactica.it (ghizzo) wrote:

>> Could you attach or uuencode the jd extension and doc file?
>> As for extensions, I'm only using Intuition and EasyLife at present,
>> but
>> I may add jd as it looks to be rather helpful.

> Add the Gui extension... the best intuition/gadtools extension
> it's great, EASY, Freeware, VERY stable, and much more! My opinions
> are very objective... maybe because i'm the extension's author :))

I agree :) It's great. But there seems to be a slight bug. When you exit a
program that use the extension, and has been started from Shell/CLI, the
current directory is lost, the Shell/CLI will lock if you try to run a
command. You have to 'CD new-dir' before executing any commands.

Roy Antonsen aka // A1200T - EMail: royan@internet.no
  KillJoy/BDZ. \x/ THOR 2.22 - Current time: Clock down!


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I tried out the J-Windows demo and it looked pretty nice.  I ran each
compiled program in alphabetical order.  So, I ran everything upto Me.
When I ran Me, I entered the info and click on save.  Entered a filename,
clicked OK and then it gurus.  Each time.  Anyone else have this problem?

Michael
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To the one known as Keith,

> > KH> Actually, I use Amos/HiSoft/C depending on what I'm writing.  The only thing
> > KH> about amos I don't like, is the BLASTED LACK OF MULTITASKING.
> > Doesn't Multi Wait make multitasking possible?
> Ok, try loading two copies of amos(or any amos proggie) and see what
> happens... 

NEWSFLASH: Ghizzo's GUI compiler solves this problem !!  Assuming you are
only using intuition/amigados commands and are not using amos graphic
commands, the GUI compiler allows you to load two or more amos proggies with
no hassle..  At last we can all write utilities in amos with no-one
noticing..

Go download  it NOW...

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AoD wrote:
> 
> I tried out the J-Windows demo and it looked pretty nice.  I ran each
> compiled program in alphabetical order.  So, I ran everything upto Me.
> When I ran Me, I entered the info and click on save.  Entered a filename,
> clicked OK and then it gurus.  Each time.  Anyone else have this problem?

Yes. I had similar problems running J Windows. I ran Me first up, and my
1200 crashed (OS 3.1, 2M chip, 4Mb fast) just trying to load it.
However, after rebooting I was able to run all of the demos without any
trouble. (It was nice seeing the fractal demo

        When I try running the EasyLife AMOS-Guide more than once it
crashes out AMOS-Pro and my machine. Anyone else with this one? I'm
using the Multiview in WorkBench instead. 

And finally...

        At the risk of sounding like a complete dill, *how* do you get
the AMOS Pro Compile to compile within AMOS Pro? When I first bought it
installed okay and added a number of options in the User menu, but since
then I bought a new 1200. My original Compiler
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Lindsay Fleay wrote:

>        When I try running the EasyLife AMOS-Guide more than once it
>crashes out AMOS-Pro and my machine. Anyone else with this one? I'm
>using the Multiview in WorkBench instead. 
>
When I run AMOS-Guide, it hangs after a few gadgetclicks and my Amiga gurus.
You might be interested in that I'm currently writing my own AmigaGuide reader
for AMOS. I'll put it up on AmiNet when I'm done, but it's gonna take a while.
>
>        At the risk of sounding like a complete dill, *how* do you get
>the AMOS Pro Compile to compile within AMOS Pro? When I first bought it
>installed okay and added a number of options in the User menu, but since
>then I bought a new 1200. My original Compiler
>
That's odd! Are you using Tiny_Shell? If not: Do so!
Or in the worst case you can use Compiler_Shell and compile to another
Amoswindow. But you knew that already, didn't you?

Claes


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>
> (I am resending this message as it does not appear to have made it)
>
> As you all may or may not know, I was doing a WWW form for users to fill
> out about bug reports.  There would also be one where you could enter,
> possibly, fixes for the bugs, workarounds, or maybe just some general hints
> and tips.  I am almost finished with the form (work, school, and life have
> slowed me down) but I need someone to write a script that will take the
> output from the form and put it into some form of database that could be
> searched, etc.  Hickman also helped on the form and started me on the script
> but I don't have time to write a little database.
>
> If anyone would like to help, let me know.  It will run on a SPARC with
> Solaris 2.4.
>
Scripts for forms can be pretty easy.  Use Perl!  It will be relatively simple
to do. I assume the Sun will run Unix of some flavour?  If necessary, if you
send me the details of the form I could write something general taht will take
all the information and format it in some way.  You can even get an automated
mail mechanism working, if necessary!

Hope this helps,

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To the one known as Claes,

> Lindsay Fleay wrote:
>=20
> >        When I try running the EasyLife AMOS-Guide more than once it
> >crashes out AMOS-Pro and my machine. Anyone else with this one? I'm
> >using the Multiview in WorkBench instead.=20
> >
> When I run AMOS-Guide, it hangs after a few gadgetclicks and my Amiga=
=20gurus.
> You might be interested in that I'm currently writing my own AmigaGui=
de reader
> for AMOS. I'll put it up on AmiNet when I'm done, but it's gonna take=
=20a while.

Everytime I run amos-guide, it crashes.  Apart from that, easylife is
great..!=20

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=20my life
|_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ |  | | /   |  |   to eliminating the gene that make=
s you
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     Is there anybody who owns the Turbo extension?
     Me and my brother payed Ryan Scott for a copy, and he never sent 
us the software or returned the money.
     We saw a demo and we think the turbo extension is really useful.
     Please, it wouldn't be piracy in any way, since we payed it. 
Send me a copy!

Thank you!


Be excellent to each other!

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> joe hick and Giark said:-
> >The problem is, double buffer makes buttons an incredible pain.  I hve a 
> >lot ov clickable buttons and that means more screen swaps than you can 
> >shake a stick at.  Also, ever try to type on the screen with double 
> >buffer active?  It's easier to just shoot yourself in the head.
> 
> Why don't you split you display into two screens. One double bufferd on for
> the game itself and one 'non double buffer' screen for printing, icons, buttons
> etc... It also gives you the chance to use diferent ammounts of colours for
> each screen, diferent palette etc...

Plus, it saves on chip-mem..

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From: lebed@gramercy.ios.com (Steve Lebed)
Date: May 08 1996 12:04:33 AM
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I am the co owner my a new software company.  My company is writing game software for the Amiga to be
released on CD-rom.  These programs are being written in AmosPro and Blitz Basic2.1

The current problem I face right now is the lack of an animation format on the Amiga that has
synchronized sound slaved to the frames.  I'm asking for anyones help in working with my company to
create an animation format that I can incorporate into AmosPro as an extension.

The requirements are that as follows:

   1. It should be able to play ANIM5, 7 or 8 animations directly for a hard drive.
   2. It should be able to maintain 15 fps at 376x160xHAM resolution, or be able to skip frames when
         the sound gets ahead of the animation.
   3. It must have synchronized sound, sync'd to any given frame.

I know that this is a tall order.  My company is willing to pay anyone intersted in working with us.
My E-mail address is lebed@gramercy.ios.com

I know that the attitude of most people on this list is that the Amiga market is dead, and I
shouldn't expect to make any money in it.  I believe in the amiga market, and I believe that if good
quality software is made available to the amiga user, my company can make money in it.

My company is called 'The Rios/Lebed Project'.  We will be working to make our presence known in a
few weeks.  Thank you for any help you can provide.


Stephen Lebed



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 > Just a quick problem I need help with:
 >
 > When I try installing extensions such as Easylife and JDLib the
 > program won't accept them. I've put them in APSystem folder and
 > entered the extension names in the interpreter config file in the
 > correct space. However, when I load AmosPro it says `can't load
 > extension' even though I know it has found the extension (by using
 > Snoopdos).

out of memory? ...do you have fast mem?

 > I may have forgotten a seemingly unimportant file when
 > configuring the system files (I seem to have lost 'AutoExec.amos')
 > - but alas I've left the original at home several hundred miles away!
 >
 > Also, the TurboCraft extension I have installed, although it doesn't
 > cause the same problem as above, it causes problems when I compile
 > within amospro. Whatever code I try to compile it says something
 > along the lines of `Disk error: object not found` even if I compile
 > just
 > `print "hello"`. But when I compile from the compiler disk outside
 > AMOSPro it works!
 >
 > If you could help and suggest what the problems may be I would be very
 > grateful.

This is a KNOWED bug of the Compiler_Shell.Amos program! Everyone
should remove this bug!!

1- Load the Compiler_Shell.Amos program in the editor
2- Open ALL the procedures
3- Search this command: Until R<-26
4- Replace it with: Until R<-41
5- Well Done! Now save the program!

 ...the same error is in the Tiny_Shell.Amos program!! Follow the same
instructions!

 >
 > Anthony Short.
 >

Bye!
< Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft >  -  E-Mail: ghizzo@galactica.it
          Italy Amos User Club Coordinator --- Team AMIGA


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 > On 23-Apr-96 21:22:20, ghizzo@galactica.it (ghizzo) wrote:
 >
 > >> Could you attach or uuencode the jd extension and doc file?
 > >> As for extensions, I'm only using Intuition and EasyLife at present,
 > >> but
 > >> I may add jd as it looks to be rather helpful.
 >
 > > Add the Gui extension... the best intuition/gadtools extension
 > > it's great, EASY, Freeware, VERY stable, and much more! My opinions
 > > are very objective... maybe because i'm the extension's author :))
 >
 > I agree :) It's great. But there seems to be a slight bug. When you
 > exit a
 > program that use the extension, and has been started from Shell/CLI,
 > the
 > current directory is lost, the Shell/CLI will lock if you try to run a
 > command. You have to 'CD new-dir' before executing any commands.
 >
 > Roy Antonsen aka // A1200T - EMail: royan@internet.no
 >   KillJoy/BDZ. \x/ THOR 2.22 - Current time: Clock down!
 >

Sometime ago (6-7 days) i've sent the Patch for this bug on this mailing
list...

Bye!



< Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft >  -  E-Mail: ghizzo@galactica.it
          Italy Amos User Club Coordinator --- Team AMIGA


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From: Petri Hakkinen <mystic@tlti.tokem.fi>
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Subject: Mellow Chips' latest demo on aminet!
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Hi!

I just uploaded our latest demo to aminet. It's in demo/aga directory and 
the file is Jees.lha. It's made using AMOS & 68020+ code and requires 
68020 & AGA & harddisk.

Anyone interested? Please check it out and tell us what you think about it.

- Petri H{kkinen / mystic@tlti.tokem.fi -




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From: AoD <mcox@access.digex.net>
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I know, here I am breaking my own rules.  Anyway, does anyone use a monitor
other than the 1084?  Let me know.

Oh, while I am here.  Anyone using the GUI extension?  (I could email the
author but he may have bazillion requests already).  How does one make the
progress bar work?  Any sample would be appreciated.

Also, J-Windows' ME program still gurus on me but seems that othershave
luck after re-booting.  Weird, huh?

Finally, Software Hut in PA (USA) says they have AMOS Pro and I have
inquired if they carry AMOS Pro Compiler.  Will let everyone know what they
say.

Michael
--
Michael Cox                                Work: michaelc@gsg.eds.com 
A1200/465/CD + 1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED!     Play: mcox@access.digex.net
             For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me!
	   AMOS WWW: http://www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/amos/


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Hello,

 > Is there anybody who owns the Turbo extension?

I have got it.

 > Me and my brother payed Ryan Scott for a copy, and he never sent
 > us the software or returned the money.

Well, why did you pay Ryan Scott? The author of the Turbo extension is:

Manuel Andre
Arbeidersstraat Nr. 9
2600    BERCHEM
  BELGIUM

Write him asking about the turbo extension and powerbobs extension, without
sending money the first time and ask him how you can get the full version.
He will probably reply after a lot of time (I waited up to 6 months!), but

do
not worry.
BTW, the turbo extension available on Aminet in dev/amos is complete, even
if
it isn't the last available! The situation is different for the Powerbobs,
since the unregistered version display very annoying requests.

 > We saw a demo and we think the turbo extension is really useful.

And faaaasssttt!

 > Please, it wouldn't be piracy in any way, since we payed it.

But you paid the wrong person. BTW, I had the last registered version for
free from the author himself: I repeat, the best thing is to write him.

Bye


  +----------ON AMINET-----------+
  | game/think/navalbattle.lha   +----------------------------------+
  | game/shoot/in_the_target.lha | Michele_Berionne@amp.flashnet.it |
  | game/shhot/fantasy.lha       | M.Berionne@agora.stm.it          |
  | game/think/atoms.lha         +----------------------------------+
  | game/think/Manos.lha         |                                  |
| dev/lang/Logo1_4.lha         |         >> Bomb!1.5 beta <<      |
  | util/time/MReminder.lha      |                                  |
  +------------------------------+----------------------------------+
  |BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN.    |
  +-----------------------------------------------------------------+





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Steve Lebed wrote:
> 
> I am the co owner my a new software company.  My company is writing game software for the Amiga to be
> released on CD-rom.  These programs are being written in AmosPro and Blitz Basic2.1
> 
> The current problem I face right now is the lack of an animation format on the Amiga that has
> synchronized sound slaved to the frames.  I'm asking for anyones help in working with my company to
> create an animation format that I can incorporate into AmosPro as an extension.
> 
> The requirements are that as follows:
> 
>    1. It should be able to play ANIM5, 7 or 8 animations directly for a hard drive.
>    2. It should be able to maintain 15 fps at 376x160xHAM resolution, or be able to skip frames when
>          the sound gets ahead of the animation.
>    3. It must have synchronized sound, sync'd to any given frame.
> 
> I know that this is a tall order.  My company is willing to pay anyone intersted in working with us.
> My E-mail address is lebed@gramercy.ios.com
> 
> I know that the attitude of most people on this list is that the Amiga market is dead, and I
> shouldn't expect to make any money in it.  I believe in the amiga market, and I believe that if good
> quality software is made available to the amiga user, my company can make money in it.
> 
> My company is called 'The Rios/Lebed Project'.  We will be working to make our presence known in a
> few weeks.  Thank you for any help you can provide.
> 
> Stephen Lebed

	Unfortunately, I know of any animation format that can do this, and I'm
currently working with Silicon Graphics workstations and (occasionally) PC's at
work. I don't know nearly as much as I should about Mac formats, but I'll ask.
I suspect you might have to port something across. There's a movie format on
the SGI's but I think its the software and the high-falutin' hardware doing all
the work. My technical expertise isn't all that great; but my enthusiasm is! 

	It's great to see you take this all seriously. If I didn't work sixty hour
weeks I'd be spending all my time putting my own game project together. Still,
if you put anything out I'll certainly be willing to support it.
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> > Me and my brother payed Ryan Scott for a copy, and he never sent

> Well, why did you pay Ryan Scott?

> But you paid the wrong person. BTW, I had the last registered

He paid Ryan Scott because Ryan was selling it through Playfield just before
Playfield folded.  I had to bug Ryan for 3 months, finally through his personal
friends, before he sent mine.  Soon after that he sold the rights to Black
Legend.  And no one got their unused Playfield subscription money back either. 
At least the Mr. AMOS Club took care of their subscribers when they quit.

So you really can't blame the dude for ordering Turbo from lyin' Ryan.

-Chris.



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From: achurch@dragonfire.net (Andy Church)
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Date: Thu May 02 15:23:13 1996
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  I've recently had an opportunity to look over the JWindows extension.
After reviewing the documentation and playing with the demos, my first
impression is: not bad, but not excellent either.  It certainly has a
comprehensive set of instructions, and the demos worked quite well; but for
the most part, the extension seems to me to be primarily an OS interface.
While that doesn't take away from its functionality, it does detract from
its usefulness - to me, at least, since I can write system calls just as
easily in C as in AMOS.  If I'm going to use AMOS, I'd prefer to not have
to worry about such details as tag names.  (Of course, there are probably
people who would find an extension like this useful; I'm simply not one of
them.)

  --Andy Church (achurch@dragonfire.net)
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Greetings M.Berionne@agora.stm.it, you wrote some text on the subject
Re:Priority: urgent, and now I'm going to answer it

M>  > Me and my brother payed Ryan Scott for a copy, and he never sent
M>  > us the software or returned the money.
M> 
M> Well, why did you pay Ryan Scott?

He was selling it at one point but didn't reply to a lot of orders.

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To the one known as Ben,
> I've done it once or twice, but typing asm code straight into the source
> makes faster development. With AMOS, you have to load up Devpac or whatever,
> type it in there, compile it, save it and load it into an AMOS procedure.

I'm sure I saw an assembler in amos somewhere ?

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From: joe hick and Giark <joehick@golden.net>
To: Paul Burkey <amos-list@sneech.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Amos v Blitz getting silly
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The problem is, double buffer makes buttons an incredible pain.  I hve a 
lot ov clickable buttons and that means more screen swaps than you can 
shake a stick at.  Also, ever try to type on the screen with double 
buffer active?  It's easier to just shoot yourself in the head.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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To the one known as Paul,

> Does anyone have any idea of the functions in the locale.library, or =
indeed
> any of the new os2,0 up libraries? I just don't know where I can find=
=20them!

Contents of library file locale

offset:   30...localePrivate1 ()
offset:   36...CloseCatalog (a0)
offset:   42...CloseLocale (a0)
offset:   48...ConvToLower (a0, d0)
offset:   54...ConvToUpper (a0, d0)
offset:   60...FormatDate (a0, a1, a2, a3)
offset:   66...FormatString (a0, a1, a2, a3)
offset:   72...GetCatalogStr (a0, d0, a1)
offset:   78...GetLocaleStr (a0, d0)
offset:   84...IsAlNum (a0, d0)
offset:   90...IsAlpha (a0, d0)
offset:   96...IsCntrl (a0, d0)
offset:  102...IsDigit (a0, d0)
offset:  108...IsGraph (a0, d0)
offset:  114...IsLower (a0, d0)
offset:  120...IsPrint (a0, d0)
offset:  126...IsPunct (a0, d0)
offset:  132...IsSpace (a0, d0)
offset:  138...IsUpper (a0, d0)
offset:  144...IsXDigit (a0, d0)
offset:  150...OpenCatalogA (a0, a1, a2)
offset:  156...OpenLocale (a0)
offset:  162...ParseDate (a0, a1, a2, a3)
offset:  168...localePrivate2 ()
offset:  174...StrConvert (a0, a1, a2, d0, d1)
offset:  180...StrnCmp (a0, a1, a2, d0, d1)
offset:  186...localePrivate3 ()
offset:  192...localePrivate4 ()
offset:  198...localePrivate5 ()
offset:  204...localePrivate6 ()
offset:  210...localePrivate7 ()
offset:  216...localePrivate8 ()
Ok.

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From: bwyatt@paston.co.uk (Ben Wyatt)
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Greetings R.A., you wrote some text on the subject Re: Amos vs. Blitz,
and now I'm going to answer it

RL> > One commercial softwarehouse using Amos is Vulcan (Valhalla, Timekeepers,
RL> > Seaside sim).
RL> 
RL> Funny how all three get shit reviews and never make it above 70% then isn't
RL> it?

Valhalla got marks over 90%, even a 95%. Timekeepers got 70%-85%. Seaside sim
got 90% in the last review I saw.

Jetstrike is another example, with 88% in One Amiga if I remember correctly.

If they're "shit" marks, I need to check my faithful dictionary again. ;-)

To be honest, I don't think they deserve such high marks, but they're not
/that/ bad. They do demonstrate the type of games AMOS does well though.

Bye _________________________________
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Date: 30 Apr 1996 22:33:57 -0500
Subject: publishing AMOS Pro
To: amos-list@conan.eds-ms.com
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> > I'd really like to see what Francois says about the people trying to
> re-market
> > the Pro, the way F1 is doing the Pro Compiler, to see what the problem is

[from Steve at F1]
> To be honest F1 could re-release Amos Pro, BUT, and it's a big
> but, we do
> not have the resources available to do it justice. Take the
[snip]
> Pro itself on the other
> hand is a
> bloody great big thing, 500 page manual and six disks. This
> would cost a
> fortune to re-produce (Europress have none in stock
[snip]

Yes it occured to me that the manual would be the stumbling block.  The only
way to inexpensively do one would be to put it on disk.  But then the whole
package would approach 10 disks.

And as you say, the product is dated and not being developed.

Thx for your comments from a developers point of view Steve.
-Chris.



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Subject: LDos author
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> > > Anyone know the e-mail of the author of LDos extension?

> > I think it's in one of these mags kicking around here somewhere ... if you
> > don't get an answer let me know and I'll try to dig it out.

> I don't think i'll find it anywhere.. so could you dig it out?

OK I found the mag, it's the April 94 Amiga Shopper, so sort of out of date for
e-addresses, but there isn't one anyway :-(  It has an article by Jason Holborn
on "using LDos to write ARexx compatible AMOS programs," 2 pages of stuff.  If
you need that I don't mind snail mailing it to you.
-Chris.

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Play:  ChrisEvans@cubic.xg.com
Fido:  Chris Evans 1:2401/302
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Subject: AMOS / PC programming
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> > love for programming 'that perfect game', I don't see any
> > good programming language in PC-land.

> I'm doing with Amos: is there something like it for Pc?
> easy, fast and
> powerful tool for Pc?

Nope, just the hard bastard stuff.  I've been doing PC C++ for over a year. It
boils down to choosing a C++ compiler with flat memory management to avoid the
PC problem with conventional memory, and getting a graphics library (the PC
term for an extension) that handles your sprites.  We've looked at lots of
crap, and there are very few good non-restrictive cheap ones, but lots of
expensive ones.

Two good UseNet conferences are:
rec.games.programmer
and
comp.os.msdos.programmer

If anyone wants to continue this lets move it out of the List and into private
mail before the AMOS lads barf.
-Chris.

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	Hey guys,
		I just wondering if any of you knew how to
	get AMos 3D workinf with AMos pro, I assumed it 
	was immpossible since try to use the 3d library
	always got me a Guru meditation, but a fella was 
	asking how to compile amos pro programs w/ 3d library
	so I thought maybe you guys had figured it out.
			Thanks,
				Scott Matott sXe

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> >> I'm new here, but have worked with AMOS from the early ...

> Ccx> Welcome Erick ... what are your AMOS projects?

> I'm one of the few left here who once were member of the Dutch
> AMOS-club.(RIP)
> Together with 3 other people (also ex-AMOSclub) we are trying
> to assemble a SF
[snip]

Here in N. America we wondered what happened to the Dutch group, you guys did
some cool stuff on AMOS PD.  The only disk clubs left are AMOSzine and Whitby
AMOS club in the UK and AMOS Club USA over here.

> And what are your projects in AMOS Chris?

An educational game Night Math Attack in the MISC/EDU dir of Aminet, done for
the local schools to get rich quick :-)
Good luck with your stuff!
-Chris.



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Hi!

PLEASE let me know if the gui extension patch works on your
system... and if the "RAM:" bug is dead!

.. check now aminet  pub/aminet/dev/amos/GuiComp.lha

the GUI compiler is available! Get it now... and happy
multitasking! :))

Bye!!


< Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft >  -  E-Mail: ghizzo@galactica.it
          Italy Amos User Club Coordinator --- Team AMIGA

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If anyone remebers, late last year I was putting together a web page for
people to fill out about bug reports.  I am still working on it (school,
work, and other life happenings interfere) and hope to have it completed
soon after finals next week.  However, I need help.

Can anyone write a script or program that will run on a Solaris 2.x machine
and take the output from the HTML form and put it into like a database of
some sort?  I'd like for users to be able to search the database, etc.
When a bug is entered, it will be assigned a number for reference,etc.  If
anyone is interested in writing this for me, let me know so we can plan
things out.  I'd like to get it done early so that by the time school
starts back it will be bug free.

Thanks.

Michael
--
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     For those who want to have Chaneques, it is in Aminet, in the 
subdirectory game/think. They are two disks, each containing one part 
of the game.
     And yes, we are going to distribute our next game (Dungeon Fight, a 
two player plattform-shoot-em-up) trough F1, if Steve Bye wants to. 
I'm talking with him now.

Be excellent to each other!

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From: Steve Bye <Steve@f1lw.demon.co.uk>
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Quite a few people outside of the UK are asking me how 
they can buy J-Windows, to save a ton of e-mails I have posted details here,
hope everyone dosen't mind. 
Of course I will reply personally to everyone that has contacted me so far.

Requires:
J-Windows requires Workbench 2 minimum and Amos Pro (+ a compiler really)

Cost: 4.99 ukp plus shipping of 1.00ukp UK   1.50 ukp Europe  2.00 ukp ROW

Yoy can pay using Access/Visa/Mastercard/Eurocard or a cheque drawn on a UK
bank in sterling.

I can send a UUencoded copy by e-mail once payment is recieved and cleared.
I will only send UU on weekends for no extra cost or you can add 1ukp for
a weekday send. 

Alternatively I will send by post of course.

You can phone your order in and quickly give me your card details
(card number,expiry date and cardholders name) and then E-mail me your
address/e-mail details to save on your long distance phone costs and to
save any confusion of address because of language difficulties.
 
We do not have fax anymore, sorry.

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From: Darryl_Lewis@comlink.mpx.com.au (Darryl Lewis)
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Subject: Help:spacewar code
Status: RO
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I'm trying to write a spacewar game. Those that have visited my web page
know this already.
Parts of it are finished, but I'm having trouble with the ship combat
section. I can't seem to get the ship to move correctly under small thrust.
When the ship is vertical or horizontal, there is no problem. When it's
angles at 45 degrees, no problem. But when it's slightly angled between
these angles, it doesn't move correctly. Try it, and you'll see what I
mean.

Any help appreciated.

--cut--

Curs Off 

Paper 0

Cls 

 

Dim XP(Screen Width)

Dim YP(Screen Height)

Dim VX#(500)

Dim VY#(500)

Dim AX#(500)

Dim AY#(500)

Dim P(500)

Dim SHIPPOS(50)

Global SHIPPOS()

Global SHIP

Dim SPEED(500)

Global NUMBER_OF_SHIPS

'number of ships to draw 

'so far, we only draw the player

NUMBER_OF_SHIPS=1

SHIP=1

Procedure MAKE_SHIP

   '

   ' There will be 16 different positions of

   ' our spaceship: 

   '

   SHIPPOS(SHIP)=16

   '

   ' We now create 16 primitive drawings for the

   ' different ship positions and store them as Icons 

   ' 1 to 32. 

   ' Image 1 shows the ship in vertical position (pointing

   ' to the top of screen and all following are designed by 

   ' clockwise rotation). 

   ' The first 16 images contain all positions of the 

   ' space ship without acceleration  and the icons 

   ' 17 to 32 show the ship WITH acceleration.  

   ' Of course, the final program will use raytraced pictures stored as

   ' bobs

   '

   For J=0 To 1

      For H=0 To SHIPPOS-1

         W#=H

         W#=(W#*(2.0*Pi#))/SHIPPOS(SHIP)

         Draw 5,5 To 5+5*Sin(W#),5-5*Cos(W#)

         Draw 5,5 To 5-5*Sin(W#),5+5*Cos(W#)

         If J=1

            Circle 5-5*Sin(W#),5+5*Cos(W#),3

         End If 

         Get Bob H+1+J*SHIPPOS(SHIP),0,0 To 10,10

         Cls 

      Next H

   Next J

End Proc

MAKE_SHIP

 

Make Icon Mask 

'

' We now set the intial position of player's ship as well  

' as gravity force 

'

 

XP(1)=100

YP(1)=10

'there is currently no gravity. Eventually there will be the option of

'having a star or black hole in the centre of the screen to fly around.

GRAVITY=0

VX#(1)=0

VY#(1)=0

AX#(1)=0

AY#(1)=0

'

' P , short for picture, always contains the actual Icon number.

'

P=1

Double Buffer 

'

' Main loop

'

'bob and array number of player

_PLAYER=1

'bob and array number of enemies are greater than 1

P(1)=1

Do 

   For I=1 To NUMBER_OF_SHIPS

      SPEED(SHIP)=Sqr(VX#(SHIP)*VX#(I)+VY#(SHIP)*VY#(SHIP))

      'Print "speed:";Str$(SPEED)+"    " 

      Bob(I),XP(I),YP(I),P(I)

      'Print SHIP;P(1) 

      'Print VX#(SHIP),VY#(SHIP) 

      Wait Vbl 

      '

      ' if ship was accelerated (icon number p>shippos)

      ' then give give back unaccelerated picture

      '

      If P(SHIP)>SHIPPOS(SHIP)

         Add P(SHIP),-SHIPPOS(SHIP)

      End If 

      J=Joy(1)

      '

      ' Turn right 

      ' (Increase the Icon number by one and set it to one if

      '  it was 16!) 

      '

      If Btst(3,J)=True

         Inc P(1)

         If P(1)=SHIPPOS(1)+1

            P(1)=1

         End If 

      End If 

      '  

      ' Turn left

      ' (Decrease icon number!)

      '

      If Btst(2,J)=True

         Dec P(1)

         If P(1)=0

            P(1)=SHIPPOS(1)

         End If 

      End If 

      '  

      ' up=accelerate! 

      ' If up is not pressed, the acceleration of the

      ' spaceship is set to zero.

      '

      If Btst(0,J)=True

         W#=(P(1)-1)*2.0*Pi#

         W#=W#/SHIPPOS(1)

         AX#(SHIP)=30.0*Sin(W#)

         AY#(SHIP)=-30.0*Cos(W#)

         Add P,SHIPPOS

      Else 

         AX#(1)=0

         AY#(1)=0

      End If 

      '

      ' First, the gravity force has to be added to

      ' the accelaration in Y direction and x direction.

      ' This has yet to be calcutlated. Then, the

      ' speed vector is updated and finally the

      ' position is updated. 

      ' The division with 80 (or any large number) is

      ' necessary to slow down all motions.

      ' (Try to change it!)

      '

      'AY#(SHIP)=AY#(SHIP)+GRAVITY

      VX#(SHIP)=VX#(SHIP)+AX#(SHIP)

      VY#(SHIP)=VY#(SHIP)+AY#(SHIP)

      XP(SHIP)=XP(SHIP)+VX#(SHIP)/80

      YP(SHIP)=YP(SHIP)+VY#(SHIP)/80

      '

      ' The following lines limit the speed to 300 

      ' in each direction. They are not absolutely necessary.  

      ' Note that for a realistic situation it is not the

      ' individual speed directions that should be limited,

      ' but the real speed Sqr(vx*vx+vy*vy)! 

      '

      If Abs(VX#(SHIP))>300

         VX=Sgn(VX)*300

      End If 

      If Abs(VY#(SHIP))>300

         VY=Sgn(VY#(SHIP))*300

      End If 

      '

      ' The following lines loop the accessible area to the  

      ' visible screen 

      '

      If YP(SHIP)>200 Then YP(SHIP)=0

      If YP(SHIP)<O Then YP(SHIP)=200

      If XP(SHIP)>300 Then XP(SHIP)=0

      If XP(SHIP)<0 Then XP(SHIP)=300

 

      'enemy movement and logic tactics

      '- always point at player so it can fire a torpedo

      '- if tatical it will not come closer than the range of it's weapons

      '-- if it does it will attempt to veer away

      '- if it is agressive (5% chance) then it will charge player (ram)

      '- will not fire unless in range

      '- if shields are breached, then 5% chance of it escaping each loop

      '

   Next 

Loop 

 















-- Via DLG Pro v1.0

--
Darryl

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 > On 23-Apr-96 21:22:20, ghizzo@galactica.it (ghizzo) wrote:
 > 
 > >> Could you attach or uuencode the jd extension and doc file?
 > >> As for extensions, I'm only using Intuition and EasyLife at present,
 > >> but
 > >> I may add jd as it looks to be rather helpful.
 > 
 > > Add the Gui extension... the best intuition/gadtools extension
 > > it's great, EASY, Freeware, VERY stable, and much more! My opinions
 > > are very objective... maybe because i'm the extension's author :))
 > 
 > I agree :) It's great. But there seems to be a slight bug. When you
 > exit a
 > program that use the extension, and has been started from Shell/CLI,
 > the
 > current directory is lost, the Shell/CLI will lock if you try to run a
 > command. You have to 'CD new-dir' before executing any commands.
 > 
 > Roy Antonsen aka // A1200T - EMail: royan@internet.no
 >   KillJoy/BDZ. \x/ THOR 2.22 - Current time: Clock down!
 >

Sometime ago (6-7 days) i've sent the Patch for this bug on this mailing
list...

Bye!





< Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft >  -  E-Mail: ghizzo@galactica.it
          Italy Amos User Club Coordinator --- Team AMIGA

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eritmeester@grafix.xs4all.nl (Erick Ritmeester) wrote on 18.04.1996 some
text under the subject AMOS questions. I can't leave this uncommentated
;-)

ER> I was using an EHB-palette editing graphics. When I load a picture (edited with
ER> ImageFX and DpaintIV/V) in AMOS some of the colours don't match. When I load
ER> the picture in an old paint program (DPaint III) the colors do look the same as
ER> when loaded in AMOS). I guess something has changed in the new paint programs?

Dpaint IV/V uses 24 bit palettes, whereas AMOS only uses 12 bit colour
codes. So it might be, that colours like $202020 and $2F2F2F end up the
same in AMOS, in this case $222. DPaint has a 'Scale' button in the
palette requester, which cuts off the lower 12 bits of the colour value,
making the picture ecs-ehb again.

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Status: RO
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To the one known as AoD,

> I know, here I am breaking my own rules.  Anyway, does anyone use a m=
onitor
> other than the 1084?  Let me know.

No.
=20
> Oh, while I am here.  Anyone using the GUI extension?  (I could email=
=20the
> author but he may have bazillion requests already).  How does one mak=
e the
> progress bar work?  Any sample would be appreciated.

Yes.  Email him !!  ;-)  Or RTFM.

> Also, J-Windows' ME program still gurus on me but seems that othersha=
ve
> luck after re-booting.  Weird, huh?

Yup.

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|_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ |  | | /   |  | =20
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From: achurch@dragonfire.net (Andy Church)
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: Re: JWindows: first impressions
Date: Sat May 11 11:01:01 1996
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>It's quite complex to use to start with, but it's all explained well in the
>tutorials. I'm sure however, that it could be easier to use. It's easier to
>understand if you are used to C or Assembler and/or you have a bit of
>knowledge about how the Amiga OS works, but everything you need to know is
>explained.
>
>The tag lists should be optional. Commands could be included that mostly
>overcome the need for them.

  Agreed.  As I mentioned, at this point it's primarily an OS interface
extension, and as long as I'm basically writing OS calls, I can do that
faster in C.

>It does have some useful commands that can be used in "normal" AMOS programs.
>There's a whole set of replacement file commands. They are very easy to use
>and much faster/powerful than the AMOS equivants. There's some handy linked
>list commands as well and some commands to static strings (don't get affected
>by AMOS memory shuffles!)

  Yes, but again, those are (for the most part) just dos.library interface
routines.  Which doesn't detract from their usefulness, of course; but see
above.

>There's a command that makes most of the AMOS graphics commands work in a
>particular WB window or screen. It even works with some of the other
>extension commands!

  Hmm, I missed that.  I'd actually thought of doing something like that
in the Intuition extension, but the hardcoded 6-bitplane maximum stopped
me... maybe I should go back and take a closer look at how things are put
together.  But yes, that's definitely a useful feature.

>The code of J-Windows is surprisingly readable. Use of the Equ("") command
>is made to make tag lists more understandable. A command to load the
>equates is included to replace AMOS's bug-infested loading of them. But
>large programs can get lost in a forest of tag lists very easily.

  Yes, writing taglists by name instead of hex value is nice... but on the
other hand, one takes that for granted when writing C programs. <shrug>

>Compared to the other Intuition extensions I think it's quite good. In terms
>of ease of use, the GUI extension is the best with the Intution extension a
>close second.

  It's off topic, but I have to ask... (:  What improvements in the
Intuition extension would you want to see?  I'm running out of ideas
myself.

>But, J-Windows has many more features

  Again, this is possible because most of the routines are simply calls to
the system libraries.  And again, I realize that many people will not know
C and/or not have the desire to learn it, which makes this extension that
much more useful; but for me, I'd rather do taglists and system calls in C
than in AMOS.

  --Andy Church (achurch@dragonfire.net)
    WWW: http://www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/
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Subject: Re: A leeetal problemo
Date: Sat May 11 17:25:54 1996
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>If i type in the following code and run it:
>
>open out 1,"df0:test"
>print #1,"Hello"
>print #1,"Goodbye"
>close 1
>
>and then view 'df0:test' as an ascii file i get:
>
>Hello
>
>Goodbye
>

  You need to do this instead?

Open Out 1,"df0:test"
Print #1,"Hello"+Chr$(10);
Print #1,"Goodbye"+Chr$(10);
Close 1

  For some obscure reason, AMOS ends Print# lines with a Chr$(13)+Chr$(10)
if you don't add the trailing semicolon.

  --Andy Church (achurch@dragonfire.net)
    WWW: http://www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/

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From: bwyatt@paston.co.uk (Ben Wyatt)
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Subject: Re: JWindows: first impressions
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Greetings Andy, you wrote some text on the subject JWindows: first
impressions, and now I'm going to answer it

AC>   I've recently had an opportunity to look over the JWindows extension.
AC> After reviewing the documentation and playing with the demos, my first
AC> impression is: not bad, but not excellent either.  It certainly has a
AC> comprehensive set of instructions, and the demos worked quite well; but for
AC> the most part, the extension seems to me to be primarily an OS interface.
AC> While that doesn't take away from its functionality, it does detract from
AC> its usefulness - to me, at least, since I can write system calls just as
AC> easily in C as in AMOS.  If I'm going to use AMOS, I'd prefer to not have
AC> to worry about such details as tag names.  (Of course, there are probably
AC> people who would find an extension like this useful; I'm simply not one of
AC> them.)

Here are my comments/opinions, after playing with it for a while :

It's quite complex to use to start with, but it's all explained well in the
tutorials. I'm sure however, that it could be easier to use. It's easier to
understand if you are used to C or Assembler and/or you have a bit of
knowledge about how the Amiga OS works, but everything you need to know is
explained.

The tag lists should be optional. Commands could be included that mostly
overcome the need for them.

It does have some useful commands that can be used in "normal" AMOS programs.
There's a whole set of replacement file commands. They are very easy to use
and much faster/powerful than the AMOS equivants. There's some handy linked
list commands as well and some commands to static strings (don't get affected
by AMOS memory shuffles!)

There's a command that makes most of the AMOS graphics commands work in a
particular WB window or screen. It even works with some of the other
extension commands!

Some nice utilities are included. There's a Merge ASCII program to replace
the bug-filled AMOS one. Also, a program to convert library calls (or
something) to procedures, which could be useful in the right hands. It
also supports GadToolsBox (like the GUI Extension), but in a strange way.
A program converts the *.gui file into AMOS/J-Windows source code. It's
more versitile than with the GUI extension (as you can add bits and you
have more control), but it's much neater to have it stored in a bank.

The code of J-Windows is surprisingly readable. Use of the Equ("") command
is made to make tag lists more understandable. A command to load the
equates is included to replace AMOS's bug-infested loading of them. But
large programs can get lost in a forest of tag lists very easily.

Compared to the other Intuition extensions I think it's quite good. In terms
of ease of use, the GUI extension is the best with the Intution extension a
close second. But, J-Windows has many more features and is far more
accessable than OS-Devkit. If you want to write big/complex WB accessories,
then go with J-Windows. The GUI extension could become a contender for large
programs after it is upgraded more (Asl/EasyReqs are something it is lacking
for a start and it could do with a Set Screen command that diverts the AMOS
graphics commands, like described above).

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Hello all,

I got the demo of J-Windows extension from Aminet (dev/amos/jwindows.lha)

and
I would like to say what I think and to know if you agree with me.

First of all I want to say that I've nothing against F1 (that sells it) and
Steve should know it: what I'm writing are just my own impressions, but I
could be wrong as well.

In the archive there are some very good examples with the source code in
Ascii format. Well, the examples are really well done and they show how
powerful the extension can be. But I can't say the same about the codes.

First of all, every code has got a lot of folded procedures, so nobody can
see what's inside, then has got a lot of global variables: are the coder
not
able to reduce that number or the programs really need them? I think both
are
correct, don't you?

Finally, it seems a bit hard to use: of course, I haven't got the manual,
si
what I'm saying is just supposed to be, but there are a lot of commands and
not all are so easy. GuiExtension has far less commands, even if probably
it
doesn't allow everything the JWindows does (yet!!).

But I must say even a good word about: it seems to re-direct the standard
amos commands to the intuition windows and this can be good. By the way, I
can't be sure even about it because of the folded procs.

If any of you tested it (Steve said you're 2), then please, let's know if
you
agree or not with me.

Bye.


P.S: Another good point is the low price, I can't forget it, but I must
even
remember that GuiExt is freeware!! :-)


  +----------ON AMINET-----------+
  | game/think/navalbattle.lha   +----------------------------------+
  | game/shoot/in_the_target.lha | Michele_Berionne@amp.flashnet.it |
  | game/shhot/fantasy.lha       | M.Berionne@agora.stm.it          |
  | game/think/atoms.lha         +----------------------------------+
  | game/think/Manos.lha         |                                  |
| dev/lang/Logo1_4.lha         |         >> Bomb!1.5 beta <<      |
  | util/time/MReminder.lha      |                                  |
  +------------------------------+----------------------------------+
  |BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN.    |
  +-----------------------------------------------------------------+





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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 07:05:32 -0400 (EDT)
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Would everyone please review the list below and let me know of any
additions, deletions, changes, etc?  Thanks.  I am trying to get my FAQ
back up to date.

        AMOS                            AMOS Pro
1+      Music or EME v4.64              Music or EME v4.64
2       Compact v1.2                    Picture Compactor v2.00
3       Request v1.41                   Requester v2.00
4       3D v1.00                        3D v1.02AP
5       Compiler v1.36                  Pro Compiler v2.00
6       Serial v1.2                     IO Devices v2.00
7       TOME v4.24
8       CText v2.5
9       Range (AMOS Club Ext.) v2.8
10      Dump Lib
10      LDos v2.5                       LDos v2.5
11      LSer v2.1                       LSer v2.1
12      TURBO PLUS v1.0                 TURBO PLUS v1.0
14-     Intuition v1.3                  Intuition v1.3
15      DSAM v????                      DSAM v????
16*     EasyLife v1.4b                  EasyLife v1.4b
18      CRAFT v1.00                     CRAFT v1.00
19      MusiCRAFT v1.00                 MusiCRAFT v1.00
20-*    AMOS OS Interface v3.4          AMOS OS Interface v3.4
21*     PRT_Extension v1.1              PRT_Extension v1.1
22*     JD_Extension v4.6               JD_Extension v4.6



Michael
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Greetings M.Berionne@agora.stm.it, you wrote some text on the subject
Re:Extensions List, and now I'm going to answer it

M>  > Also, let me know if there are any changes, additions, or deletio=
ns to
M>  > this list.
M>=20
M> Well about AmosPro you're forgetting:
M>  -GuiExtension \
M>  -OS DevKit     > All three about intuition support.
M>  -Jwindows     /
M>=20
M> and IntOS, even if it's half an extension.

It doesn't use an extension slot though does it?!

M>  > 15=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0DSAM v????
M>=20
M> Is there a version for AmosPro?

No. But you're not missing out on anything. It's extremely poor. Basica=
lly
it's just an extension to play samples over music mods. Just like AMCAF
and CRAFT do.

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Greetings Andy, you wrote some text on the subject Re: JWindows: first
impressions, and now I'm going to answer it

AC> >It does have some useful commands that can be used in "normal" AMOS programs.
AC> >There's a whole set of replacement file commands. They are very easy to use
AC> >and much faster/powerful than the AMOS equivants. There's some handy linked
AC> >list commands as well and some commands to static strings (don't get affected
AC> >by AMOS memory shuffles!)
AC> 
AC>   Yes, but again, those are (for the most part) just dos.library interface
AC> routines.  Which doesn't detract from their usefulness, of course; but see
AC> above.

It's just nice to have them added to AMOS if they're from the dos.library
or not. :)

AC> >There's a command that makes most of the AMOS graphics commands work in a
AC> >particular WB window or screen. It even works with some of the other
AC> >extension commands!
AC> 
AC>   Hmm, I missed that.  I'd actually thought of doing something like that
AC> in the Intuition extension, but the hardcoded 6-bitplane maximum stopped
AC> me... maybe I should go back and take a closer look at how things are put
AC> together.  But yes, that's definitely a useful feature.

JWindows could do with a Screen Copy type command, like in the Intuition Ext.

AC> >The code of J-Windows is surprisingly readable. Use of the Equ("") command
AC> >is made to make tag lists more understandable. A command to load the
AC> >equates is included to replace AMOS's bug-infested loading of them. But
AC> >large programs can get lost in a forest of tag lists very easily.
AC> 
AC>   Yes, writing taglists by name instead of hex value is nice... but on the
AC> other hand, one takes that for granted when writing C programs. <shrug>

Some of the equates had some very strange names... :)

AC> >Compared to the other Intuition extensions I think it's quite good. In terms
AC> >of ease of use, the GUI extension is the best with the Intution extension a
AC> >close second.
AC> 
AC>   It's off topic, but I have to ask... (:  What improvements in the
AC> Intuition extension would you want to see?  I'm running out of ideas
AC> myself.

Firstly, fix some bugs!! :)

Support for the GadToolsBox editor, pasting bobs/icons (I think it does
icons?). Just duplicate what's been done in other extensions. But is it
really necessary with all the other extensions floating about?

AC> >But, J-Windows has many more features
AC> 
AC>   Again, this is possible because most of the routines are simply calls to
AC> the system libraries.  And again, I realize that many people will not know
AC> C and/or not have the desire to learn it, which makes this extension that
AC> much more useful; but for me, I'd rather do taglists and system calls in C
AC> than in AMOS.

That's about all I can do in C anyway. ;-))

Actually, I've just been playing around with the Gui extension. I was
impressed a second time round! It does things with one line that takes
JWindows several. And it DOES have Asl/Easyreq support which I had forgotten
about. But, it really does need to be able to open and close screens, so
hurry up with the update Ghizzo!! :)

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Greetings Steve, you wrote some text on the subject Re: JWindows: first
impressions, and now I'm going to answer it

SB> > The tag lists should be optional. Commands could be included that mostly
SB> > overcome the need for them.
SB> I think the programmer (John Houseley) is working on that right now and 
SB> optimising and trying to make it easier to use.

I meant to ask what the programmers name was. I couldn't find it anywhere
in the package!

SB> Thanks for your constructive crits Ben, Andy and M.B I will pass on your
SB> posts to John Houseley so he can act on your suggestions if he wants to.

I hope he does! :)

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From: bwyatt@paston.co.uk (Ben Wyatt)
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Subject: Re: A leeetal problemo
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Greetings R.A., you wrote some text on the subject A leeetal problemo,
and now I'm going to answer it

RL> Hokay dokay - heres a little problem i'm having with amos and ascii files and
RL> i was wondering if one of you could help .....
RL> 
RL> If i type in the following code and run it:
RL> 
RL> open out 1,"df0:test"
RL> print #1,"Hello"
RL> print #1,"Goodbye"
RL> close 1
RL> 
RL> and then view 'df0:test' as an ascii file i get:
RL> 
RL> Hello
RL> 
RL> Goodbye
RL> 
RL> Now, can anyone rewrite the program so that when i view the ascii file the
RL> two words are not seperated by a blank line like so:
RL> 
RL> Hello
RL> Goodbye
RL> 
RL> Whilst this is not strictly nessicary for what i have in mind, it would be
RL> extremely helpful if it didn't have the irritating blank line in the
RL> middle.
RL> 
RL> Any ideas?

Probably a crap way of doing it, but I Reserve a bank, Poke$ it in and
Bsave it. Something like this :

Reserve As Work 10,1024
P=Start(10)
Poke$ P,"Hello"+Chr$(13) : Add P,Len("Hello")+1
Poke$ P,"Goodbye"+Chr$(13) : Add P,Len("Goodbye")+1
Bsave FILE$,Start(10) To P
Erase 10

BTW, the J-Windows extension provides commands to do it exactly as you
request with something like :

FILE_HANDLE=J Open Out FILE$
J Write$ FILE_HANDLE,"Hello"
J Write$ FILE_HANDLE,"Goodbye"
J Close FILE_HANDLE

Bye _________________________________
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   > Ben Wyatt - bwyatt@paston.co.uk <
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Hi all,
I'm having a slight problem with EME v4.5, it crashes the system when I try to start AMOS Pro v2.
I see that the latest version of EME is 4.64, is that what I need? If so where can I get an update?

Thanks much,
Joe

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From: jonasth@bahnhof.se (Jonas Thorell)
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Just a quick mail to inform everyone that might had trouble with the loca=
le-
extension via mail that it should be on aminet soon as I've uploaded it t=
here
now.


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Has anyone with J-Windows had trouble with the installer? I had no trouble
but two customers have, I think it may have to do with wether you have
updated pro to version 2 or not. 

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Claes wrote:-

CA> When I run AMOS-Guide, it hangs after a few gadgetclicks and my Amiga gurus.
CA> You might be interested in that I'm currently writing my own AmigaGuide reader
CA> for AMOS. I'll put it up on AmiNet when I'm done, but it's gonna take a while.

I hope you are talking about a real OS style Guide reader, that Multitasks
perfectly. If you are going to write a guide reader that uses a normal AMOS
screen then forget it. You'll just get flamed by loads of Amiga users who
just don't seem to like Non multitasking Utilities. When I released an early
version of my SmoothGuide program to Aminet I got tons of anonymous emails
from people telling me to stop writing non multitasking software for the
multitasking Amiga. It's the first time I've ever come up against anything
like that and it's not very nice to be spending your free time writing something
for free and then getting that sort of feed back. I must admit I also got
a lot of Good responce from people including the odd bit of cash but I'm
not going to put any more work into it from now because I don't think it's
really worth all the effort....

What would be nice is an Amiga guide reader that runs on it's own OS screen
out of the way of the workbench. Appart from the normal compression loading
and maybe some usefull search/save/print options I can't really see what
else you could add that Multiview doesn't already do.

And by Multitasking I mean 100% multitasking ALL the time, not just multitasking
when the program isn't doing anything.

I'm just warning you about the sort of mixed response an amigaguide reader or
any WB utility can get if it's not a true multitasker. The only time you'll
get away with it is if it's doing a unique job.

Cheers,

Paul


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Keith Hill wrote:
> 
> To the one known as Claes,
> 
> > Lindsay Fleay wrote:
> >
> > >        When I try running the EasyLife AMOS-Guide more than once it
> > >crashes out AMOS-Pro and my machine. Anyone else with this one? I'm
> > >using the Multiview in WorkBench instead.
> > >
> > When I run AMOS-Guide, it hangs after a few gadgetclicks and my Amiga gurus.
> > You might be interested in that I'm currently writing my own AmigaGuide reader
> > for AMOS. I'll put it up on AmiNet when I'm done, but it's gonna take a while.
> 
> Everytime I run amos-guide, it crashes.  Apart from that, easylife is
> great..!

Ahh, so it wasn't just me. I thought it might have been AmigaDOS 3.1 or something.
Incidently, I've also had trouble finding the AMOS City Web Site
(http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceebdb/amos/)...is that still running or not?
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From: jonasth@bahnhof.se (Jonas Thorell)
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Subject: Re: AMOS 3D with AMos PRo??
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>       Hey guys,
>               I just wondering if any of you knew how to
>       get AMos 3D workinf with AMos pro, I assumed it
>       was immpossible since try to use the 3d library
>       always got me a Guru meditation, but a fella was
>       asking how to compile amos pro programs w/ 3d library
>       so I thought maybe you guys had figured it out.
>                       Thanks,
>                               Scott Matott sXe


Well, you need AMOS Pro 2.0 for starters if I'm not greatly mistaken. So,=
 if
you use a version lower than that, time for an upgrade me thinks.


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From: "R.A. Lawrence" <u5ral@csc.liv.ac.uk>
To: amos-list@conan.eds-ms.com
Subject: A leeetal problemo
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Hokay dokay - heres a little problem i'm having with amos and ascii files and
i was wondering if one of you could help .....

If i type in the following code and run it:

open out 1,"df0:test"
print #1,"Hello"
print #1,"Goodbye"
close 1

and then view 'df0:test' as an ascii file i get:

Hello

Goodbye

Now, can anyone rewrite the program so that when i view the ascii file the
two words are not seperated by a blank line like so:

Hello
Goodbye

Whilst this is not strictly nessicary for what i have in mind, it would be
extremely helpful if it didn't have the irritating blank line in the
middle.

Any ideas?

Rich.


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From: cosmo@sci.fi (Ville Ranki)
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To: matottsd@logic.camp.clarkson.edu (Scott D. Matott),
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Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 22:09:05
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Subject: Re: AMOS 3D with AMos PRo??
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On 11-Tou-96  , Scott D. Matott wrote:

> 	Hey guys,
> 		I just wondering if any of you knew how to
> 	get AMos 3D workinf with AMos pro, I assumed it 
> 	was immpossible since try to use the 3d library
> 	always got me a Guru meditation, but a fella was 
> 	asking how to compile amos pro programs w/ 3d library
> 	so I thought maybe you guys had figured it out.
> 			Thanks,
> 				Scott Matott sXe

I have got Amos 3D on my Pro 2.0. AmosPro 1.12's latest news
tells you how to make it work. I can send it to you if you want?



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From: cosmo@sci.fi (Ville Ranki)
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To: jonasth@bahnhof.se (Jonas Thorell), amos-list@conan.eds-ms.com (Amos List)
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 22:24:57
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Subject: Re: AMOS 3D with AMos PRo??
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On 11-Tou-96  , Jonas Thorell wrote:

> Well, you need AMOS Pro 2.0 for starters if I'm not greatly mistaken. So,=
>  if
> you use a version lower than that, time for an upgrade me thinks.

Works on 1.12, don't know if it would work with 1.0.




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Hi,
I am writing a beatem'up for A1200 and I would have a problem:
I want to add the effect water in a zone of the background(effect mirror+ 
transparency+ wobble).
Unfortunately I am inexperienced with the custom of the copper registers and 
I don't know like do.
The background is a screen 320x256x5 lowres and the zone on which I want to 
apply this effect go from 0,200 to 320,255.
If anybody knows like do, me helps please!
Thank you.

 BLACK CuPiDo
      of   MT



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> To the one known as Ben,
> > I've done it once or twice, but typing asm code straight into the
> source
> > makes faster development. With AMOS, you have to load up Devpac or
> whatever,
> > type it in there, compile it, save it and load it into an AMOS
> procedure.
>
> I'm sure I saw an assembler in amos somewhere ?

In the old AMOS The Creator 1.34 package there is an amos assembler...

 > 
 >  _   _   _        _     _   _     |  "Whats with the rocks, Mac ?"
 > |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ |  | | /   |  |  "I like rocks."
 > |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_  .  |  "Try art."
 >                                   |  
 > 
< Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft >  -  E-Mail: ghizzo@galactica.it
          Italy Amos User Club Coordinator --- Team AMIGA

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To the one known as Lindsay,

> Keith Hill wrote:
> > To the one known as Claes,
> > > Lindsay Fleay wrote:
> > > >        When I try running the EasyLife AMOS-Guide more than once it
> > > >crashes out AMOS-Pro and my machine. Anyone else with this one? I'm
> > > >using the Multiview in WorkBench instead.
> > > When I run AMOS-Guide, it hangs after a few gadgetclicks and my Amiga gurus.
> > > You might be interested in that I'm currently writing my own AmigaGuide reader
> > > for AMOS. I'll put it up on AmiNet when I'm done, but it's gonna take a while.
> > 
> > Everytime I run amos-guide, it crashes.  Apart from that, easylife is
> > great..!

Ok, let me change that previous line...  Replace great with indispensable. 
I can't live without structures.
 
> Ahh, so it wasn't just me. I thought it might have been AmigaDOS 3.1 or something.

..just as a matter of interest, I have a 3.1 chip in my CD32, so it might be
3.1 after all..

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From: Branko Collin <U249026@VM.UCI.KUN.NL>
Subject: Good and bad
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I have got good news and bad news. The good news is that Amos is so
popular that it has a _very_ active distribution list devoted to it.

The bad news is, you guessed it, that Amos is so popular that it has
an _extremely_ active  distribution list devoted to it. Normally that
wouldn't be a problem, but they're actually restricting computer
facilities for students here. I'll have to say goodbye for now. As
soon as I can afford a modem and an Internet account I'll be back (I
know, they are dirt cheap, but food has a slightly higher priority with
me right now).

My email address will still be valid, at least through august and
possibly a year longer.

Thanks to all the subscribers for all the usefull stuff they posted
over the last years and for generally being nice guys and gals.

Till next time,

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Is there a quick way to.... make a regular rectangular image get a 3d

perspective like:

>From    ________________________      To                          _
        .                      .                             _    .
        .                      .                         _        .
        .                      .                     _            .
        .                      .                 _                .
        .                      .             _                    .
        .                      .             .                    .
        .                      .             .                    .
        .                      .             _                    .
        .                      .                 _                .
        .                      .                     _            .
        .                      .                          _       .
        .                      .                              _   .
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I would like to do this through straight AMOS. Doesn't have to be 
super quick. But the quicker the better. :)
13-MAY-1996 10:58:44.61                                     

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I am in the process of turning the AMOS FAQ into HTML.  I would like to
make links on the extensions and the files on AmiNet.  I have a question.
For the extensions, is this useful?

In the AmiNet files, what site should I set it to?

Also, monitors...Why would I need a monitor that can sync down to 15KHz?
Yes, hardware is not my forte.  Do only games sync down to that or ???

Thanks.

Michael
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From: royan@internet.no (Roy Antonsen)
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On 03-May-96 20:52:01, ghizzo@galactica.it (ghizzo) wrote:

>Hi!

>PLEASE let me know if the gui extension patch works on your
>system... and if the "RAM:" bug is dead!

It works, and the bug is dead and buried :)

Roy Antonsen aka // A1200T - EMail: royan@internet.no
  KillJoy/BDZ. \x/ THOR 2.22 - Current time: Clock down!


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From: royan@internet.no (Roy Antonsen)
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On 07-May-96 19:57:47, ghizzo@galactica.it (ghizzo) wrote:

>> I agree :) It's great. But there seems to be a slight bug. When you
>> exit a
>> program that use the extension, and has been started from Shell/CLI,
>> the
>> current directory is lost, the Shell/CLI will lock if you try to run a
>> command. You have to 'CD new-dir' before executing any commands.

>Sometime ago (4-5 days) i've sent the Patch for this bug on this mailing
>list...

Yes, I have installed it, and it works fine :) Thanks!

Roy Antonsen aka // A1200T - EMail: royan@internet.no
  KillJoy/BDZ. \x/ THOR 2.22 - Current time: Clock down!


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On Mon, 13 May 1996, Daniel Miller wrote:

With regards to that 3d mapping thing - you could always use the zoom
command - its very slow but would give it a 3d look.

If you want more info then i might be able to dig up the code (its only 10
lines max)

Rich.


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> 
> I am in the process of turning the AMOS FAQ into HTML.  I would like to
> make links on the extensions and the files on AmiNet.  I have a question.
> For the extensions, is this useful?
> 
	Yes, I think so.

> In the AmiNet files, what site should I set it to?

	I would guess the one nearest to you with the fastest access 
time.  If This is a mirror site then it should be a full mirror.
> 
> Also, monitors...Why would I need a monitor that can sync down to 15KHz?
> Yes, hardware is not my forte.  Do only games sync down to that or ???
> 
	15MHz is what a TV works at.  The monitor will need to sync down 
to that as this is what the Amiga signal sends out as standard (unless you
have a gfx card of course!)

Hope that helps,

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I was wondering whether any of you know a fix for this problem?
Thanks.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:37:31
From: John Turner <JTurner540@gnn.com>
To: T.Lewis@bton.ac.uk
Subject: Problems with AMOS

Hello, my name is John Turner.  I live in San Antonio TX, and have 
been an Amiga user and AMOS person for some time.  Recently, I 
upgraded my A3000 from AmigaDOS 2.1 to 3.1, and have experienced 
some problems with AMOS.  Specifically, when I use a high-res 
interlaced NTSC screen (which I do with all my software), I now 
experience a very annoying interlace flicker.  This occurs even 
though I have the A3000's hardware deinterlacer engaged.  If I turn 
it off, the entire screen breaks up.  I did not have this problem 
with AmigaDOS 2.1.  Since you have a 1200, with AmigaDOS 3.0 at 
least, I though perhaps you could tell me if you or anyone you know 
has experienced this sort of problem.  Is this a known AMOS bug?  
Is there a fix or workaround?  Does anyone still support AMOS?  It 
is very hard to obtain information here in San Antonio;  There 
isn't even an Amiga dealer in town!

I am using Amos Professional V1.12.  Is there a more current 
version, and if so, how do I obtain it?

I thank you for your time and effort.  I enjoy your home page and 
look forward to you completing it.  Please reply soon, as I only 
have this account through the end of the month.

Sincerely,

John D. Turner

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You can reply either to me or John himself.

Cheers,

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>>
>> I am in the process of turning the AMOS FAQ into HTML.  I would like t=
o
>> make links on the extensions and the files on AmiNet.  I have a questi=
on.
>> For the extensions, is this useful?
>>
>       Yes, I think so.

>> In the AmiNet files, what site should I set it to?

>       I would guess the one nearest to you with the fastest access
>time.  If This is a mirror site then it should be a full mirror.
>>
>> Also, monitors...Why would I need a monitor that can sync down to 15KH=
z?
>> Yes, hardware is not my forte.  Do only games sync down to that or ???
>>
>       15MHz is what a TV works at.  The monitor will need to sync down
>to that as this is what the Amiga signal sends out as standard (unless y=
ou
>have a gfx card of course!)

>Hope that helps,

There's one more side to this: If you don't have a 15Khz capable monitor,=
 you
will not be able to see softare failure's or the early startup control pa=
nel
(the one you get if you hold down the right mousebutton upon power-up). A=
nd
many programs (mostly games, demos and AMOS) refuses to be mode-promoted =
so
they can work at 30 Khz and upwards.

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From: lebed@gramercy.ios.com (Steve Lebed)
Date: May 14 1996 10:56:20 AM
To: amos-list@conan.eds-ms.com
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Amos Pro has a problem playing animations in HAM mode.  During an animation
that I'll play, there is a point when the delta changes are too great, and
Amos Pro corrupts the screen.

I believe that this is a known bug in Amos Pro.  Someone wrote an
animation player that read anims off a hard drive.  In the documentation he
commented on this problem.

Is anyone interested in writing a new animation command set for Amos Pro
that would handle large delta changes and possibly handle ANIM 7 format
animations?

If so please let me know...

Stephen Lebed


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> From: AoD <mcox@access.digex.net>

> Also, monitors...Why would I need a monitor that can sync down
> to 15KHz?
> Yes, hardware is not my forte.  Do only games sync down to
> that or ???

I thought the only reason anyone needed a 15 KHz monitor was to work with
Amigas that didn't have a flicker-fixer.  If you have a f-fixer like my A3000
then a VGA monitor which scans at 30 KHz is fine.  I don't know how the monitor
scan rate relates to games ... they all work on both systems.
-Chris.



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> From: Branko Collin <U249026@VM.UCI.KUN.NL>

> facilities for students here. I'll have to say goodbye for
> now.

> Thanks to all the subscribers for all the usefull stuff they
> posted
> over the last years and for generally being nice guys and
> gals.

And thx for all the stuff you posted Branko, good luck!



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Hello,

 M>> and IntOS, even if it's half an extension.

 a> It doesn't use an extension slot though does it?!

It uses a normal Amos slot even if it uses an external program to access

the
intuition features.

So, if you can do not buy/use it: there are a lot of other better tools for
Amos like GuiExt, Intuition ext, JWindows, OS DevKit (?): use them!!!

Bye


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Hello,

 CA>> When I run AMOS-Guide, it hangs after a few gadgetclicks and my Amiga
 CA>> gurus. You might be interested in that I'm currently writing my own
 CA>> AmigaGuide reader for AMOS. I'll put it up on AmiNet when I'm done,
 CA>> but it's gonna take a while.

 > I hope you are talking about a real OS style Guide reader, that
 > Multitasks perfectly. If you are going to write a guide reader that uses
 > a normal AMOS screen then forget it.

Of course, a not multi-tadking reader wouldn't be so useful! :-)

BTW, get the GuiCompiler: it should make your Amos programs who run on
intuition screens real mutlitasking!

 > version of my SmoothGuide program to Aminet I got tons of anonymous
 > emails from people telling me to stop writing non multitasking software
 > for the multitasking Amiga.

Well, not all the not multitasking software, since it isn't a problem for
games, but an utility must multitask!

 > What would be nice is an Amiga guide reader that runs on it's own OS
 > screen out of the way of the workbench.

I think you could do it with the GuiExtension (if Guido makes possible
screens soon!!!) or with the Intuition extension (even if you must be ready
to a lot of crashes during the testing)

 > Appart from the normal compression loading
 > and maybe some usefull search/save/print options I can't really see
 > what else you could add that Multiview doesn't already do.

Well, search,save and print are already enough!! :-))))

 > And by Multitasking I mean 100% multitasking ALL the time, not just
 > multitasking when the program isn't doing anything.

See above about the GuiComp!

Bye



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Hello,

 >> Everytime I run amos-guide, it crashes.  Apart from that, easylife is
 >> great..!

 > Ok, let me change that previous line...  Replace great with
 > indispensable. I can't live without structures.

Well, probably it's good for the structures, but I can't like Easylife
because of the external library it uses.

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>Claes wrote:-
>
>CA> When I run AMOS-Guide, it hangs after a few gadgetclicks and my Amiga 
gurus.
>CA> You might be interested in that I'm currently writing my own AmigaGuide 
reader
>CA> for AMOS. I'll put it up on AmiNet when I'm done, but it's gonna take a 
while.

And Paul answered:
>
>I hope you are talking about a real OS style Guide reader, that Multitasks
>perfectly. If you are going to write a guide reader that uses a normal AMOS
>screen then forget it. You'll just get flamed by loads of Amiga users who
>just don't seem to like Non multitasking Utilities. When I released an early
>version of my SmoothGuide program to Aminet I got tons of anonymous emails
>from people telling me to stop writing non multitasking software for the
>multitasking Amiga. It's the first time I've ever come up against anything
>like that and it's not very nice to be spending your free time writing 
something
>for free and then getting that sort of feed back. I must admit I also got
>a lot of Good responce from people including the odd bit of cash but I'm
>not going to put any more work into it from now because I don't think it's
>really worth all the effort....
>
>What would be nice is an Amiga guide reader that runs on it's own OS screen
>out of the way of the workbench. Appart from the normal compression loading
>and maybe some usefull search/save/print options I can't really see what
>else you could add that Multiview doesn't already do.
>
>And by Multitasking I mean 100% multitasking ALL the time, not just 
multitasking
>when the program isn't doing anything.
>
>I'm just warning you about the sort of mixed response an amigaguide reader or
>any WB utility can get if it's not a true multitasker. The only time you'll
>get away with it is if it's doing a unique job.
>

Well, it's no problem to make a multitasking one, since I have the 
GUI-Extension (good work there, Guido!), but that's not my main intention. I 
have several friends that would like to be able to read AmigaGuides from 
within AMOS, maybe like an online manual, and I thought "That can't by too 
hard!", so I started programming this AmigaGuide-reader. As it is today it 
uses an AMOS screen and looks just like MultiView. It is intended to be used 
from within compiled or run-time AMOS-progs.
When I'm done with this version, I might consider to continue to develop a 
fully multitasking version that looks a little bit nicer than multiview.

Claes


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I've just finished my finals for my degree which may explain why I haven't 
posted
anything here for months... 

So here is a summary of the problems people have reported recently:


Installation problems
==================

Someone got 'Can't load extension' errors when snoopdos says it was loaded.
This is because on loading AMOS(Pro) calls an initialisation rountine in the
extension which must return 1 for success or 0 for failure. If an extension
returns 0, AMOS says it can't load it. 

In the case of easylife, the only reason it would fail is if it runs out of 
memory
(Very unlikely) or it cannot open easylife.library (Is it in libs: ?)


Mike's Extension List
==================

Mike, the AMOSPro version of easylife is 1.10a not 1.4b.


Why does Easylife require the external library file?
===========================================

If I'm honest, it is so it is obvious to others who use a compiled
program that it uses the extension.

It also does have real benefits in that it allows assembler procedures
to access Easylife structured variables.

Finally it makes the initialisation code for the extension simple as it puts
the library base in the extension data area pointer and thats it.


AMOS Guide crashes
==================

I know. I have had this report from a lot of people but I have never been able
to duplicate it on my machine or find a common feature in the setups of 
those for whom it does crash. What I do know is

  - It either crashes persistently or works persistently.

  - There are other people for whom it works.

  - The crash is in the initialisation code.

I have a newer version on my harddrive I think - I wrote it some time ago, and
sent it to those that reported the crash in the old version and I think it 
still
crashed for some of them. I honestly can't remember if I uploaded it anywhere
or not. Maybe I'll take a look.

P.s. To the other person writting an amigaguide viewer, try to keep it 
compatible
with the AMOSPro help system and base the UI on netscape, not multiview!


Structured Variables
=================

I haven't heard of any problems with these recently - I hope this means they 
are
now stable in the most recent version. I'd really like to hear from anyone who
sucessfully uses the St Load / St Save instructions as these are by far the 
most
complicated parts of the library and therefore most susceptable to bugs.




               M  I  C  R  O  S  O  F  T
         +------------------------------------+
         |  What do you want to crash today?  |
         +------------------------------------+
Paul Hickman - ph@doc.ic.ac.uk - Imperial College Student



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Hello,

>>  -OS DevKit     > All three about intuition support.
 m> What slot?

Number 20.

>> and IntOS, even if it's half an extension.
 m> I don't think it really counts as it does not use a slot.

Are you sure?

>>  -starspro
 m> Slot?

Number 20. I had to remove it to instal OS DevKit.

>> BTW, there are also other smaller ones, like Locale, Utility, MakeLib,
>> AmyPlus (soon available), and so on.

 m> I added Locale, don't know anything about the others.

AmyPlus isn't available yet, but uses slot numer 17.
About the other, I have got them, but they aren't very useful.
Utility is a commercial extension; MakeLib can be found on Internet, but do
not ask me where. It also uses slot number 17.

Bye


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Hello,

 > I am in the process of turning the AMOS FAQ into HTML.  I would like to
 > make links on the extensions and the files on AmiNet.

Good idea.

 > For the extensions, is this useful?

Yes it could, but if you don't leave it outdated.

 > In the AmiNet files, what site should I set it to?

Wuarchive is probably the best one, even if it's quite slow from Europe.

Bye

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Dear list,

Has anyone ever experienced this problem ? Is there a cure ?

Whenever I edit a sample bank and save it either to disk or back to the
porgram, the next time I load it up all te samples have an impurtiy at the
beginning, a short click sort of sound. Why does this happen ? Why do the
samples get corrupted so ?

tom

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 01:34:29 +0200 (MET DST)
From: jonasth@bahnhof.se (Jonas Thorell)
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> m> I added Locale, don't know anything about the others.

>AmyPlus isn't available yet, but uses slot numer 17.
>About the other, I have got them, but they aren't very useful.
>Utility is a commercial extension; MakeLib can be found on Internet, but=
 do
>not ask me where. It also uses slot number 17.

Hm, what are they doing then?

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Hello,

 > now stable in the most recent version. I'd really like to hear from
 > anyone who
 > sucessfully uses the St Load / St Save instructions as these are by far
 > the most complicated parts of the library and therefore most susceptable
 > to bugs.

Are there St Load command in Easylife? Ok, now I understand where the
problem is. Craft extension has got the same command to load trackers in

amos
banks. Now, don't ask me why, but it's impossible to use the Craft's St
Load
command since Amos looks the Easylife's one.

Could it be possible changing the name of one of those?

Craft isn't upgraded any more, what about Easylife?

Bye


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  | game/shoot/fantasy.lha       | M.Berionne@agora.stm.it          |
  | game/think/atoms.lha         +----------------------------------+
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From: lebed@gramercy.ios.com (Steve Lebed)
Date: May 16 1996 11:06:53 AM
To: amos-list@conan.eds-ms.com
Subject: Amos Pro Questions...
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1. Does anyone know if the OS Development Kit from Blittersoft is any good?
What's in it?

2. Does anyone have the file format info on Anim5 or 7.  Can an animation
player be written in straight Amos Pro and compiled to work faster than the
built in commands?

3. Most important of all.  Is anyone interested in game testing my new
game?  If so I'll need info on your current system.  Fill out the
questionaire below in order to be selected.


1.  Real Name:

2.  What amiga do you use?

3.  CPU type and speed?

4.  What type of FPU do you have, if any?

5.  Are you using a hard drive with this computer (y/n)?

6.  How much CHIP RAM do you have?

7.  How much FAST RAM do you have?

8.  Do you have a CD ROM drive on this system (y/n)?

9.  How much experience do you have with your Amiga?

10. How much experience do you have with computer games?

11. Have you game tested before?

12. How much time do you devote each week to your system?

13. Do you program in Amos or Amos Pro?

14. What version of Amos are you using?


Sorry about the long list, but I need to know these things in order to find
out where problems in the game will occur.

Thank you all!

Stephen Lebed


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From: bwyatt@paston.co.uk (Ben Wyatt)
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Greetings Tom, you wrote some text on the subject Sample Banks, and now
I'm going to answer it

TD> Whenever I edit a sample bank and save it either to disk or back to the
TD> porgram, the next time I load it up all te samples have an impurtiy at the
TD> beginning, a short click sort of sound. Why does this happen ? Why do the
TD> samples get corrupted so ?

I experienced this problem. It's due to the AMCAF extension - or rather
AMOS was the problem and AMCAF was doing it correctly.

If you are using AMCAF commands to play samples, run the sample bank through
the SamBankFixer.AMOS that came with it.

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To the one known as Tom,
> Has anyone ever experienced this problem ? Is there a cure ?
> 
> Whenever I edit a sample bank and save it either to disk or back to the
> porgram, the next time I load it up all te samples have an impurtiy at the
> beginning, a short click sort of sound. Why does this happen ? Why do the
> samples get corrupted so ?

I'll bet you are using iff8svx samples, aren't you.  Here is why it clicks. 
Iff8svx has a small header at the front..  Convert it to a raw sample, and
everything will be happy.

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Hi Tom,

TD> Whenever I edit a sample bank and save it either to disk or back to the
TD> porgram, the next time I load it up all te samples have an impurtiy at the
TD> beginning, a short click sort of sound. Why does this happen ? Why do the
TD> samples get corrupted so ?

The only time I've ever had any short clicks in my samples is when I've loaded
an iff sample in as a raw sample which will leave you with the iff header at
the start. When the sample gets played it also plays the iff header which might
explain your short click. I haven't used samples for a while but you could try
saving them in a raw format instead of the iff. Something like MED or ST can
do that.

Hope that helps,

Paul

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Subject: *#$^% AMOS Pro and Library Calls!!!!
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Hello!
Let's hope THIS message gets through, finally! (I tossed my old mailer!)

I want to write an Amos program that uses the Amitcp SDK thus for 
play over the internet. But before I can begin to tackle such a project, I
need more information on calling library functions and the Areg()+Dreg()
commands.
	First of all, if someone who is experenced in programming Amos + asm
could post some examples of accessing some common amiga library functions
and the use of Areg() and Dreg() that would help alot. I also need help getting
the equate values for the libraries included in the Amitcp SDK, I can't seem
to locate a file that contains them so it would seem to me that I would need
to generate a listing of them somehow, probably via an assembler, which I
don't have. If someone knows of a program to do this or another way, please
help. I belive the library that I need the equates for is the socket.library.

Thanks for any and all help you can give me!


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Hello!
Let's hope THIS message gets through, finally! (I tossed my old mailer!)

I want to write an Amos program that uses the Amitcp SDK thus for 
play over the internet. But before I can begin to tackle such a project, I
need more information on calling library functions and the Areg()+Dreg()
commands.
	First of all, if someone who is experenced in programming Amos + asm
could post some examples of accessing some common amiga library functions
and the use of Areg() and Dreg() that would help alot. I also need help getting
the equate values for the libraries included in the Amitcp SDK, I can't seem
to locate a file that contains them so it would seem to me that I would need
to generate a listing of them somehow, probably via an assembler, which I
don't have. If someone knows of a program to do this or another way, please
help. I belive the library that I need the equates for is the socket.library.

Thanks for any and all help you can give me!


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I'm only 14, but I do extensive programming in AMOS Professional, 
and I would appreciate any information anyone might have regarding 
texture mapping or 3-D (Wofenstein, Duke Nukem, or Doom) related 
procedures or programs. Also any links to other AMOS sites would be 
helpful. I am starting a home software company this summer and am 
working on several projects involving cinematic scenes, 3-D objects, and 
CD quality sounds using AMOS Professional.

Adam Parrott
"The Butcher"

Saturday, May 18th, 1996
e-mail: parrottm@ix.netcom.com

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Dear List

Thank you all for your helpful answers to my question, it is appreciated !
Just one more - I take it raw samples mean saving sampls as RAW from a
sample editing program and loading in the data as raw samples by-passing
the memory bank system... guess this wount be a problem though as I can use
the raw data memory bank jobbee.

thanks

-- 
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Hi!

This is one of my first letters to the Amos Mailing List. I am working on 
a mario style platform game. The greatest problem is not surprisingly 
making a smooth background scroll with bobs on it. It doesn't seem like 
this is easy to do. When the screen is being scrolled using screen 
offset, the bob simply dissapears behind the scrolling screen.

I would like to get suggestions on how to solve this problem. If anybody 
has got a nice scroll with moving bobs I would appretiate if they could 
send it to me.

--/ Nicolas

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IFF 8SVX samples can be converted to RAW samples simply by removing the
first 72 bytes.


               M  I  C  R  O  S  O  F  T
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         |  What do you want to crash today?  |
         +------------------------------------+
Paul Hickman - ph@doc.ic.ac.uk - Imperial College Student



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> 
> Hi!
> 
> This is one of my first letters to the Amos Mailing List. I am working on 
> a mario style platform game. The greatest problem is not surprisingly 
> making a smooth background scroll with bobs on it. It doesn't seem like 
> this is easy to do. When the screen is being scrolled using screen 
> offset, the bob simply dissapears behind the scrolling screen.
> 
> I would like to get suggestions on how to solve this problem. If anybody 
> has got a nice scroll with moving bobs I would appretiate if they could 
> send it to me.

Do you mean that the bob is dissapearing off the left edge of the screen as
the screen moves right? If so then you're not using the co-ords correctly!
You have to use software co-ords with bobs, and not hardware co-ords, wheras
the screen offset command will be using relative harware co-ords!

Hope this helps! 

> 
> --/ Nicolas
> 


-- 
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	    ( o o ) CHAD makes it to the 21st Century!
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Do you know where to find sound samples for games on Internet?
I found a few in Aminet, but they were just five, and not the ones I 
was looking for.

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From: Ferraris Luca <ferraril@ercole.educ.di.unito.it>
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On Sun, 19 May 1996, Nicolas Oyane wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> This is one of my first letters to the Amos Mailing List. I am working on 
> a mario style platform game. The greatest problem is not surprisingly 
> making a smooth background scroll with bobs on it. It doesn't seem like 
> this is easy to do. When the screen is being scrolled using screen 
> offset, the bob simply dissapears behind the scrolling screen.
> 
> I would like to get suggestions on how to solve this problem. If anybody 
> has got a nice scroll with moving bobs I would appretiate if they could 
> send it to me.
> 
> --/ Nicolas
>

OK. I'll send to the amoslist a really smooth scrolling routine found 
somewhere...

Regards, 

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Does anyone know how to CMD the output of PRT: to a file in AMOS?

Stuart Jones

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Hello list,
this is the first e-mail that I send so I hope somebody out there can help me.
I am making a Football Manager game in amos.
During the match I want to add some animations so my artist made a big monitor with a black screen.
In this part of the picture I wanted to play an Iff animation but when I play it the animation
obscures the right and the left part of the monitor.
Is there any way to solve this?
To play the animations I use the Frame play command.
Thanks!
Bye Bye

Sean Mancuso
sean@telware.telware.it





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>Does anyone know how to CMD the output of PRT: to a file in AMOS?
>
>Stuart Jones
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Easiest way? Just EXEC the command from AMOSPro...

ie:

Exec "SYS:Utilities/CMD" or whatever!

If you're using AMOS The Creator, then you will have to use doscall to
executed the program - there are loads of examples of how to do this on
AMINET (ie. I don't have the offset to hand!!)

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Greetings, Ferraris.


> OK. I'll send to the amoslist a really smooth scrolling routine found 
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No doubt the one I, yes I showed you how to do !!!

Tom

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How can I load Iff-samples and how can a play them in an AMOS-program ?

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I want to program the Fischertechnik Interface in AMOS but don't know 
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On Sun, 26 May 1996, Joachim Hauser wrote:

> I want to program the Fischertechnik Interface in AMOS but don't know
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fischertecknik-what?

Can we have a bit more information?

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Peter Clark

Magic Lamp Software

rclark@livhope.ac.uk

01606 891636



Please could anyone inform me if it is possible to play an AMOS music 
file and also play a sample at the same time without the sample cutting 
out the music. If this is possible please could you get in touch with me 
as soon as possible at the above address(E-mail).



Yours Sincerely Peter Clark.


