From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 03:21:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 03:21:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17593 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:21:01 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA12999 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 02:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12996 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 02:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA06714 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 02:08:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port71.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.53]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16164 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:08:37 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1991 17:06:47 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: Real Time Scaling (IE: Monkey Island) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id CAA12997 Status: O X-Status: Hello, I'm now making a new game called Island 51, with the complete support of Vulcan software (sorry, I have to boast).. Anyway, I need to have realtime scaling, like in Monkey Island, I, II, Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis etc. So if I click in the distance, as the character goes towards it, he gets smaller, how can I do this REAL-TIME (at around 12-20fps) in AMOS? All help will be noted, and stuck into the credits of the game :) Jamie Bentley --------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Jamie Bentley - Graphic Artist - Since 1993 * 3D - FMV - Comics - Cartoon Animation Extreme knowledge with: | *PC | Science fiction - anims+object design *Amiga | Accident reconstruction *Silicon Graphics | Engine models *Flame and Paintbox | 2D graphic work aswell (morphing etc). -------------------------------------------------------------------------- *"The truth is out there. But it isn't as interesting as the lies!"* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 23:05:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 23:05:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19134 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:05:36 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA07713 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07710 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26931 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-41.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-41.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.105]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA19125 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:31:54 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 01 Apr 98 02:42:33 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: amos.library v2.1 To: "Rand R. Fredricksen" In-Reply-To: <568.394T2742T4954615@netwave.net> Message-ID: <849.395T1666T1623699@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Rand R. Fredricksen (rand@mail.netwave.net) wrote: >Is this version only for OS 3.x and/or AGA? >I just get a lockup (black screen) when I try to start AMOS on my 2.1 >A-500. I get that too occassionally. Not when I first bootup AMOS but sometimes when I've switched to the workbench-screen and wants to get back to the AMOS display. And this is on kickstart 3.1 and AGA. --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- All I ask for is an opportunity to prove that money doesn't buy happiness. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Mar 31 22:49:07 1998 >From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Mar 31 22:49:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12561 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:49:06 -0500 (EDT) Received: from bsdi.infima.cz (root@bsdi.infima.cz [193.179.168.65]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09148 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost) by bsdi.infima.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with internal id FAD27677; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:49:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:49:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Message-Id: <199804010349.FAD27677@bsdi.infima.cz> To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="FAD27677.891402541/bsdi.infima.cz" Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) Status: O X-Status: This is a MIME-encapsulated message --FAD27677.891402541/bsdi.infima.cz The original message was received at Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:55:49 +0200 (CEST) from svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to bbs.infima.cz.: >>> DATA <<< 554 Transaction failed; too many hops 33 maximum 32 554 ... Service unavailable --FAD27677.891402541/bsdi.infima.cz Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; bsdi.infima.cz Arrival-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:55:49 +0200 (CEST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; rafael@infima.cz Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; bbs.infima.cz Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 Transaction failed; too many hops 33 maximum 32 Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:49:01 +0200 (CEST) --FAD27677.891402541/bsdi.infima.cz Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by bsdi.infima.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26517 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:55:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21979 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21976 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28673 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from p36-cuckoo-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.59.216]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA16622 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:17:07 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 31 Mar 98 21:56:08 +0100 Subject: Re: Zones 2 Message-Id: <35216677.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 > > Use the same technique I said except use Text Length(T$) to get the > > width in pixels of the text. > > Remember that if the font has height H and you do Text X,Y,A$ > > Then the top left of the text is at X,Y-H and the bottom right is at > > X+Text Length(A$),Y. > > Just set a zone to these coords. > > NO !! The UL-corner of text is NOT in Y-H, it's in Y-Text Base... > eg. for topaz-8 (standard) the height is 8, but the text base is 7.. OK. Sorry. I forgot about the curly bits on letters like y right? Then instead you should have: X, Y-H+1 to X+Text Length(A$),Y+1 Sound right? -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 --FAD27677.891402541/bsdi.infima.cz-- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 03:50:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 03:50:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25704 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:50:06 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA11991 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11988 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailext02.compaq.com (mailext02.compaq.com [207.18.199.33]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA17757 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:47:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.compaq.com(really [207.18.199.35]) by mailext02.compaq.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:40:29 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.93 1997-Apr-12 #2 built 1997-Dec-21) Received: from exchou-conn02.im.hou.compaq.com(really [172.18.22.250]) by mail.compaq.com via sendmail with esmtp id for ; Wed, 1 Apr 98 00:38:50 -0600 (CST) (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.10 built 18-dec-97) Received: by EXCHOU-CONN02.im.hou.compaq.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:47:45 -0600 Message-ID: <313042D3BE09D111864400805F193BB3C983E8@EXCDUB-02.dblcc.eur.compaq.com> From: "Nackros, Andreas" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: RE: amos.library v2.1 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:44:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id BAA11989 Status: O X-Status: Hi, I also get totally lockup and a black screen with the new amos.library! I have an A500 with kick 3.1. Since I have that interlace bug, I wouldn´t mind getting that library to work! Regards, Andreas Näckros -----Original Message----- From: Rand R. Fredricksen [SMTP:rand@mail.netwave.net] Sent: 31 March 1998 15:16 To: * AMOS Mailing List * Subject: amos.library v2.1 Is this version only for OS 3.x and/or AGA? I just get a lockup (black screen) when I try to start AMOS on my 2.1 A-500. Thanks, - Rand -- ______ ________________________ //// | _ \ _____ ___ __ _____ mailto:rand@netwave.net //// | [_} )(___ \ ( \ | ( _ \ http://www.netwave.net/members/rand | _ ( / __ \ | \| | |_} ) //// |__| \___)(_______(__|\____(_____/ \\\\//// So then faith cometh by hearing,and hearing by the word of God. romans 10:17 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 05:19:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 05:19:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10282 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:19:28 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA13474 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:41:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13471 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA04114 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23884 invoked by uid 1514); 1 Apr 1998 08:41:12 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:41:12 +0100 (IST) From: Matt cc: AMOS List Subject: Re: AMOS rumour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Mr. Giark To You wrote: > On 29-Mar-98, Goran Cengic wrote: > >I just wonder have anyone of you heard rumour about new version of AMOS that > >is being produced ? > > It's no rumour. In fact, the first bugfix of the amos.library is already out! Where & how? /\/\att From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 18:47:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 18:47:17 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05662 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:47:17 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05717 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05714 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:49:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA17207 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5269 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1998 18:48:46 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 1 Apr 1998 18:48:46 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.42]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB50760; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:48:41 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Jonas Thorell , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 11:32:29 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <849.395T1666T1623699@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: amos.library v2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA05715 Status: O X-Status: On 01-Apr-98, Jonas Thorell smashed the keyboard with: >> just get a lockup (black screen) when I try to start AMOS on my 2.1 >> -500. > > I get that too occassionally. Not when I first bootup AMOS but sometimes when > I've switched to the workbench-screen and wants to get back to the AMOS display. > > And this is on kickstart 3.1 and AGA. I think there's a little work left in that bug, 'course when I start AMOS with the new library, then the workbench goes laced, quite anoying to look at.. Result is that I've changed back to the old lib again.. -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 10:04:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 10:04:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11712 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:04:09 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14109 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:46:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14106 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:46:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA20690 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from (mirex.demon.co.uk) [158.152.68.125] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yKMud-0007Fy-00; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:46:40 +0100 Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0040l; Wed, 1 Apr 98 13:45:57 GMT Date: Wed, 1 Apr 98 13:45:57 GMT Message-Id: <9804011345.AA0040g@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <26160612.u10t12e.a4d31-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <849.395T1666T1623699@bahnhof.se> (from "Jonas Thorell" ) (at 01 Apr 98 02:42:33 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk (Keith Hill) (Keith Hill) To: jonasth@bahnhof.se Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: amos.library v2.1 - Hey, Ghizzo... Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Jonas, > Rand R. Fredricksen (rand@mail.netwave.net) wrote: > >Is this version only for OS 3.x and/or AGA? > >I just get a lockup (black screen) when I try to start AMOS on my 2.1 > >A-500. > I get that too occassionally. Not when I first bootup AMOS but sometimes when > I've switched to the workbench-screen and wants to get back to the AMOS display. > And this is on kickstart 3.1 and AGA. URK.. Switching workbench/Amos/workbench/amos about a dozen times or so, I can duplicate this bug. Luckily I don't do that a lot and save every 3 or 4 seconds. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "Sorry to disturb you Sir, Reality Control" |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | - The Inquisitor, Red Dwarf. | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 13:49:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 13:49:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01733 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:49:21 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16695 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:29:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16686 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:29:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-03-118.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.128.118]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01248 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:29:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp20-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.69]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA30777 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:29:12 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 09:26:25 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: AMOS rumour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 01-Apr-98, Matt wrote: >>>I just wonder have anyone of you heard rumour about new version of AMOS >>>that is being produced ? >> It's no rumour. In fact, the first bugfix of the amos.library is already >>out! >Where & how? http://www.seta.it/amos/ Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 19:54:41 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 19:54:40 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10043 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:54:40 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17787 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:19:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17783 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.beotel.net (ns.beotel.net [194.106.162.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03337 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from setnet.UUCP (Usetnet@localhost) by hermes.beotel.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/rchk1.19) with UUCP id WAA28446 for Amos-list@access.digex.net; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:08:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: hermes.beotel.net: Usetnet set sender to setnet!brains using -f Received: by setnet.co.yu (0.99.970109) id AA04831; 01 Apr 98 22:16:58 +0100 From: brains@setnet.co.yu (Vladimir Cabrilo) Date: 31 Mar 98 20:46:01 +0100 Subject: Zones 2 Message-ID: <5d1_9804012216@setnet.co.yu> To: Amos-list@access.digex.net Status: O X-Status: mortenbo@login.eunet.no mumbled something I could`t understand. mn> Sorry Jens Vang Petersen and Alastair Murray, but i'am using the mn> Text command and not the Print command, but is there a way to get the mn> textzone command to work with the Text command??? I use this litle gadget: ============================= Cut here ========================= Rem * Rem * Button gadget by Vladimir Cabrilo (Brains@Setnet.co.yu) Rem * Rem * Colour 0 must be black and colour 15 white Rem * BUTX= :Rem X Coords of the button BUTY= :Rem Y Coords of the button TXTCOL= :Rem Colour of the Text in the button BUTCOL= :Rem Colour of the Field in the button TXT$="" :Rem Text Z_O_N_E= :Rem Zone # FNTX= :Rem Font width FNTY= :Rem Font height Ink BUTCOL Bar BUTX,BUTY To BUTX+6+FNTX*Len(TXT$),BUTY+4+FNTY Ink 15 Draw BUTX,BUTY To BUTX+6+FNTX*Len(TXT$),BUTY Draw BUTX,BUTY To BUTX,BUTY+4+FNTY Ink 0 Draw BUTX+6+FNTX*Len(TXT$),BUTY To BUTX+6+FNTX*Len(TXT$),BUTY+4+FNTY Draw BUTX,BUTY+4+FNTY To BUTX+6+FNTX*Len(TXT$),BUTY+4+FNTY Ink TXTCOL,BUTCOL Text BUTX+4,BUTY+9,TXT$ Set Zone Z_O_N_E,BUTX,BUTY To BUTX+6+FNTX*Len(TXT$),BUTY+4+FNTY ============================= Cut here ========================= Brains@SETNet.co.yu * Brains Software * Grand Master of the Frullah Klan ----------------------- Member of: Team *AMIGA* ------------------------- ... How do you spend your spare time when WIN is loading? --- Blue Wave v2.01 AmyBW [NR] From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 19:40:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 19:40:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25663 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:40:52 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05705 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05702 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16305 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26839 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1998 18:48:35 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 1 Apr 1998 18:48:35 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.42]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA50760; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:48:24 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Alastair Murray , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 11:29:24 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <35216677.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: Zones 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 31-Mar-98, Alastair Murray smashed the keyboard with: > OK. Sorry. I forgot about the curly bits on letters like y right? > Then instead you should have: > X, Y-H+1 to X+Text Length(A$),Y+1 That works on Topaz 8 and 9, but not on bigger fonts like times-24, also some compact fronts like tiny-6 don't fit on that. To make it work with all fonts you need to know the font-size (height) in advance, as you do with the 'H' then the folowing calculation is needed: X,Y-Text Base To X+Text Length(TXT$),Y-Text Base+H (Perhaps a bit tricky) Oh yes, just a note: If anyone thinks about using this to put a box around some graphic text with the 'Box' cmd. Then remember to do something like -2 for X and Y for UL-corner, and +2 for Y and X for BR-corner. Else the box would be on top of the text and not around it... -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective stories. -- Arthur C. Clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 19:45:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 19:45:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02803 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:45:06 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05394 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05391 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05193 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2470 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1998 18:38:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp19-34.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.226) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 1 Apr 1998 18:38:00 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00ovd; Wed, 1 Apr 98 13:33:00 GMT Date: Wed, 1 Apr 98 13:33:00 GMT Message-Id: <9804011333.AA00ovc@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: collin@xs4all.nl (Branko Collin) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Amiga Emulators for the PC Status: O X-Status: On 31 Mar 98 11:55:24 GMT, brains@RemoveThisPart.setnet.co.yu (Vladimir Cabrilo) wrote: >collin@RemoveThisPart.xs4all.nl mumbled something I could`t understand. > > cn> Get UAE, its the best Ami emulator out there. Giving the roms around > cn> is illegal, there is a program which comes with it so you can > cn> snapshot your own ROM to put on disk and run with the emulator. > cn> Surely it isn't possible to use Amos Pro on a PC - is it? I'm assuming > cn> that the complexity of Amos would prevent effective implementation on > cn> a PC. If not, where can I get this UAE jobby? > cn> Actually, I remember that in the old days, one of the things first > cn> tested to run succesfully under UAE was AMOS. What a strange way of quoting you have. I only said the third part ("Actually ... AMOS."). > Ther shouldn`t be a problem running AMOS. The only trouble is the > speed and the multitasking. On my Pentium 133, UAE runs at the speed of, > lets say, 3/4 of my A1200, when you use normal programs. But when you use > somthing that uses the CPU (like Real 3D), then you notice the slowdown. > Time to render the same scene on the PC is 2 times greater than on Amiga. > > cn> branko collin > ^^^^^^ > Interesting name. Where are you from? The Netherlands, but the name is Yugoslavian (whatever that means these days). It's from a Dutch book that both my parents liked. -- branko collin collin@xs4all.nl -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 20:05:26 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 20:05:26 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04340 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:05:26 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA16988 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16985 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20215 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from p17-duck-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.60.197]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA24530 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:03:42 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 1 Apr 98 21:19:14 +0100 Subject: GUI goes on... Message-Id: <3522AF51.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: A few things. First I feel a bit guilty about all these suggestions for improvements to the GUI extension considering all the hard work Pietro is allready doing! Anyway... I REALLY need to be able to position a screen as you would using screen display. I want one screen over the top of another except the screen on top should be lower than the screen below so they overlap a little bit. There doesn't seem to be anyway of doing this. Can anyone tell me some Dos Call or any solution what so ever to move screen positions?? If I create a program using the GUI extension will there be any restriction on what OS it will run on? Also, what librarys does it use? Heres a few commands I think would be useful: Screen Clone Logic/Physic(screen) screen=GUI Mouse Screen GUI Screen Task Name (screen,NAME$) A$=GUI Gadget Name/Label (window,gadgetID) GUI Grab Image N,Screen,X1,Y1 To X2,Y2 (Aga images) GUI Paste Image N,Screen,X,Y GUI Mouse X=x GUI Mouse Y=y GUI Get Bob Palette GUI Get Icon Palette and one which doesn't relate to GUI really but would be very useful if any extension maker can put it in theirs: x=Bob Hot Spot X (N) y=Bob Hot Spot Y (N) Finally, something I came across which I found quite funny. I'm sure any other Microsoft haters will do too. ------------------------------- "Star Trek Lost Episodes" transcript [Picard] "Mr. LaForge, have you had any success with your attempts at finding a weakness in the Borg? And Mr. Data, have you been able to access their command pathways?" [Geordi]"Yes, Captain. In fact, we found the answer by searching through our archives on late Twentieth-century computing technology." [Geordi presses a key, and a logo appears on the computer screen.] [Riker looks puzzled.] "What the hell is 'Microsoft'?" [Data turns to answer.] "Allow me to explain. We will send this program, for some reason called 'Windows', through the Borg command pathways. Once inside their root command unit, it will begin consuming system resources at an unstoppable rate." [Picard] "But the Borg have the ability to adapt. Won't they alter their processing systems to increase their storage capacity?" [Data] "Yes, Captain. But when 'Windows' detects this, it creates a new version of itself known as an 'upgrade'. The use of resources increases exponentially with each iteration. The Borg will not be able to adapt quickly enough. Eventually all of their processing ability will be taken over and none will be available for their normal operational functions." [Picard] "Excellent work. This is even better than that 'unsolvable geometric shape' idea." . . 15 Minutes Later . . . [Data] "Captain, We have successfully installed the 'Windows' in the command unit and as expected it immediately consumed 85% of all resources. We however have not received any confirmation of the expected 'upgrade'." [Geordi] "Our scanners have picked up an increase in Borg storage and CPU capacity to compensate, but we still have no indication of an 'upgrade' to compensate for their increase." [Picard] "Data, scan the history banks again and determine if their is something we have missed." [Data] "Sir, I believe there is a reason for the failure in the upgrade'. Appearently the Borg have circumvented that part of the plan by not sending in their registration cards. [Riker] "Captain we have no choice. Requesting permission to begin emergency escape sequence 3F . . ." [Geordi, excited] "Wait, Captain I just detected their CPU capacity has suddenly dropped to 0% !" [Picard] "Data, what does your scanners show?" [Data] "Appearently the Borg have found the internal 'Windows' module named 'Solitaire' and it has used up all the CPU capacity." [Picard] "Lets wait and see how long this 'solitaire' can reduce their functionality." . . Two Hours Pass . . . [Riker] "Geordi whats the status on the Borg?" [Geordi] "As expected the Borg are attempting to re-engineer to compensate for increased CPU and storage demands, but each time they successfully increase resources I have setup our closest deep space monitor beacon to transmit more 'windows' modules from something called the 'Microsoft fun-pack'. [Picard] "How much time will that buy us ?" [Data] "Current Borg solution rates allow me to predicate an interest time span of 6 more hours." [Geordi] "Captain, another vessel has entered our sector." [Picard] "Identify." [Data] "It appears to have markings very similar to the 'Microsoft' logo" [Over the speakers] "THIS IS ADMIRAL BILL GATES OF THE MICROSOFT FLAGSHIP MONOPOLY. WE HAVE POSITIVE CONFIRMATION OF UNREGISTERED SOFTWARE IN THIS SECTOR. SURREDER ALL ASSETS AND WE CAN AVOID ANY TROUBLE. YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS" [Data] "The alien ship has just opened its forward hatches and released thousands of humanoid shaped objects." [Picard] "Magnify forward viewer on the alien craft" [Riker] "Good God captain! Those are humans floating straight toward the Borg ship with no life support suits! How can they survive the tortures of deep space ?!" [Data] "I don't believe that those are humans sir, if you will look closer I believe you will see that they are carrying something recognized by twenty-first century man as doe skin leather briefcases, and wearing Armani suits" [Riker and Picard together horrified] "Lawyers !!" [Geordi] "It can't be. All the Lawyers were rounded up and sent hurtling into the sun in 2017 during the Great Awakening." [Data] "True, but appearently some must have survived." [Riker] "They have surrounded the Borg ship and are covering it with all types of papers." [Data] "I believe that is known in ancient venacular as 'red tape' it often proves fatal." [Riker] "They're tearing the Borg to pieces !" [Picard] "Turn off the monitors. I can't stand to watch, not even the Borg deserve that." THE END! -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ They added 100 to 486 and got 586.105486 so they called it Pentium. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 21:22:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 21:22:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27352 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:22:56 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21418 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21415 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26005 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from p34-hawk-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.65.34]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA23506; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:41:49 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 2 Apr 98 00:38:03 +0100 Subject: Bloody GUI again.... Message-Id: <3522DDEB.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net, ghizzo@agonet.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: arrgh! I'm being driven mad by the GUI extension (still) Its so amazing I just can't stop working with it but I'm getting very frustrated with a few things I either don't understand or can't do. It appears that if I open two screens, I can't use them both, only the last one opened. In direct mode using GUI GFX 1,0 would allow me to use screen 0 but when used in an AMOS program this command comes up with a error (no description though!) I think this is a bug! Also, is there no way of giving your screen a public name? e.g. When I have my program running and run the PubMan example program it gives the only screens as being Workbench and my DOpus running. I cannot get it to regonise my program as a screen. And of course theres still that GUI Screen Display problem.... I would have attempted a bit of poking and doking or doscalls but I can't even read the screen base of a GUI screen! HELP! Sorry for being so impatient but I really want to get this done!!! Thank for any help, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 23:01:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 23:01:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11174 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:01:15 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA22658 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22655 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us [204.194.39.250]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04370 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (fer007@localhost) by fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA30551 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:12:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:12:24 -0500 (EST) From: fernando Bartra To: AMOS Subject: new amos Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: the new amos should be able to load/display hires-laced ham animations and pictures, and aga if possible. Wolfpack From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 23:33:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 23:33:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04505 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:33:02 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA22880 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22877 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet14.ozemail.com.au (oznet14.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.120]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26952 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:32:25 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per1-21.space.net.au [203.38.10.233]) by oznet14.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA09253 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:32:16 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3522F8A9.58C8@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:32:09 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Gui Ext Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, Ive been messing around with GUI 1.7, specifically the Gui Display Iff command. It seems that it destroys the screen if it already exists, displays the IFF loaded into a bank, goes back to WB and then the next time you load another IFF into the bank it destroys the last screen. Can this be overcome so that the screen stays in front, and loads another iff screen into itself without going back to WB everytime? Here`s what I`m doing... Open In 1,IFF$ P=Lof(1) Reserve as Work 10,P Close 1 Gui Amiga 0 Repeat Bload IFF$,10 Gui Display Iff 10 to 0 Wait 10 'get next IFF$ Until Gui Amos ...also I can`t get any controls while Gui Amiga 0 is on. I`d like to scan for input during the display time. Finally, I can`t get the GUI commands to compile. The compiler reports 'Extension Not Loaded' (I`m running the Compiler from floppy with the same AMOSPro_Interpreter_Config in it`s S: folder). Thanks in advance for any help you can offer, Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 2 10:10:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 2 10:10:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10003 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:10:19 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23847 for amos-out; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23844 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:45:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netwave.net (mail.netwave.net [207.112.132.11]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16800 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pppsrs95.netwave.net (pppsrs95.netwave.net [209.100.37.95]) by mail.netwave.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA09868; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:04:09 -0600 Date: 02 Apr 98 03:00:11 -0600 From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" Subject: Re: GUI goes on... To: "Alastair Murray" In-Reply-To: <3522AF51.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: <589.396T555T1802512@netwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Alastair Murray digitized on 01-Apr-98 14:19:14: AM> "Star Trek Lost Episodes" transcript *ROTF* I *have* to pass this on!!! Who can I credit? Greets, - Rand -- ______ ________________________ //// | _ \ _____ ___ __ _____ mailto:rand@netwave.net //// | [_} )(___ \ ( \ | ( _ \ http://www.netwave.net/members/rand | _ ( / __ \ | \| | |_} ) //// |__| \___)(_______(__|\____(_____/ \\\\//// Lestat, you are the -damndest- creature! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 2 11:29:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 2 11:29:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09907 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:29:33 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23842 for amos-out; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:45:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23839 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netwave.net (mail.netwave.net [207.112.132.11]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20384 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pppsrs95.netwave.net (pppsrs95.netwave.net [209.100.37.95]) by mail.netwave.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA09841; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:03:50 -0600 Date: 02 Apr 98 03:43:44 -0600 From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" Subject: Re: Even MORE GUI Questions... To: "Alastair Murray" In-Reply-To: <35208AFD.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: <3561.396T2239T2234820@netwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Alastair Murray digitized on 30-Mar-98 23:19:41: AM> GUI again... AM> Can you give a screen you open a public name so you can get AM> other programs to run on it? AM> Anyone know how to get Multiview to run on another public screen AM> though it's CLI call. There is a PUBSCREEN parameter to it but I AM> can't get it working. You have to use ModePro or such to make Multiview use a pubscreen. AM> Also, if running an amigaguide file through multiview, is there a AM> way to get it to start on a certain node? I've never seen that operate correctly, either. AM> A bit of the points: AM> I run my AMIGA 1200 display through the VIDEO port and into the AM> SCART socket of a very high quality TV. I find I get a perfectly AM> good display with this. If I got a GFX card, what would change? AM> Would I NEED a monitor? To take advantage of any new sceenmodes offered by a graphic card you would need a new monitor, yes. I will use the terms SVGA and Multisync interchangeabley here, as all new monitors are multisyncs. SVGA used to mean 31.5 KHz, but today that's where it starts. My multisync can handle frequencies from 30 KHz to 66 KHz. My A-3000 has a de-interlacer built-in, so it's minimum output is ~31 KHz. I can't plug a 500 into this monitor. I can use a 1084 on my 3000 without the de-interlacer. I can also use a 1084 for video out from my VCR, but the multisync monitor can not interpret a signal from the VCR (it won't sync so low.) BTW, how do you plan to add a card to an A-1200? AM> What else would I need? (I've never used AM> a proper monitor and don't really know whats involved at all) How AM> would this affect AMOS? Would I not be able to use or things AM> created with it through the GFX card? If the graphic board comes with a de-interlacer or you add a de-interlacer, PAL and NTSC screenmodes are doubled to ~31 KHz so AMOS screens will be displayed on an SVGA monitor. Odd screen modes like Euro 36, productivity, dblscans, will not be promoted, and likely will not display properly on an SVGA monitor. AMOS 3 promises support for retargetable graphics (RTG). The GUI extension promises support for RTG. We'll have to wait and see how well these are implemented. AM> Would I have to plug my AM> monitor into a different socket to use it? I heard one (picasso I AM> think) had some extra port you could use or something? Is this AM> true? Is this the same for Cybervision? Questions questions AM> quesions... AFAIK, any graphic card should come with a 15 pin d-sub socket, just like the multisyncs use. There wouldn't be any point to having it otherwise :) Picasso IV has a de-interlacer on board. All NTSC and PAL modes are passed through at the higher frequency needed to feed a multi-sync. Cybervision sells one as an extra, but supposedly it's not a pass through. So you won't see the boot or GURU screens via the new monitor. Then you would need a monitor switch or two monitors. Bummer. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. AM> Thanks for any help, AM> -Murray Greets, - Rand -- ______ ________________________ //// | _ \ _____ ___ __ _____ mailto:rand@netwave.net //// | [_} )(___ \ ( \ | ( _ \ http://www.netwave.net/members/rand | _ ( / __ \ | \| | |_} ) //// |__| \___)(_______(__|\____(_____/ \\\\//// A woman can be happy with any man as long as she doesn't love him. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 02:48:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 02:48:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13423 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:48:08 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA18644 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18641 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18885 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port73.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.55]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA31764 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:24:07 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1991 16:22:14 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: RE: Real Time Scaling (IE: Monkey Island) - Your reply sucked MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id BAA18642 Status: O X-Status: >Here's how I did mine: >No real time scaling involved here, though; it's all pre-drawn cels of >animation on a screen that stays hidden, a resource screen, if you will. >I have each step of animation for the main directions: >up,down,left,right, pasted on the resource screen and 4 different sizes >of the character. Let's see, that's 8 frames for 4 directions = 32 x 4 >sizes = 128 frames pasted across the screen in row & column (matrix) >fashion. >Now, my animation loop goes like this: >Your using a mouse so I guess you'll 'ave to modify. >Do > Check joystick status > Check characters y-postion on game_screen to determine CHARACTER_SIZE > > Determine RESOURCE_SCREEN Coordinates from Joystick & CHARACTER_SIZE: > these coordinates will be used to GET BOB images on the > resource_screen: X1(J,FRAME,CHARACTER_SIZE) > Y1(J,FRAME,size) > X2( ", " , " )+ x_offset > Y2( ", " , " )+ y_offset >I use 8 frames to animate walking per direction, Soooo: > For FRAME=1 To 8 > Get Bob RESOURCE_SCREEN,x1(),y1() To x2()+x_off, y2()+y_off > Next FRAME > Show Bob on game_screen >Loop >There's alot more in the loop such as saving the current_values >in previous_values towards the end of the loop. >Then, once the loop starts again compare new current_values with >previous_values. This'll Get Bobs from the res_screen only if >the joystick or character y_position changes. You can see a small >micro-pause in the animation when the program runs the >Get Bob For...Next loop. >And of course I have collision detection within the loop and special >zone >detection. > >Hope this helps, >Ken >E-mail me back if this explanation sucks. It sucked. Because its CD only, it may be expected to run on an A500, and that would slow it down badly. There's no plausible way that would work smoothly enough. I would however like to see how they did it in Flight of the Amazon Queen (since it was made in AMOS). While I'm at it, is it possible to have multiple bob bamks at once, instead of adding it to the end of the current bank.. IE: Main character set (around 50 frames) Other character (around 30 frames) Is there a way I can open up a temp setup for this, or am I stuck with adding it to the existing 50 frames? JB --------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Jamie Bentley - Graphic Artist - Since 1993 * 3D - FMV - Comics - Cartoon Animation Extreme knowledge with: | *PC | Science fiction - anims+object design *Amiga | Accident reconstruction *Silicon Graphics | Engine models *Flame and Paintbox | 2D graphic work aswell (morphing etc). -------------------------------------------------------------------------- *"The truth is out there. But it isn't as interesting as the lies!"* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 4 22:22:18 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 4 22:22:18 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20649 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:22:17 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA12695 for amos-out; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 20:53:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12692 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 20:53:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14830 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 20:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port22.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.122]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01148 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:53:11 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1991 11:51:16 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: How long until AGA AMOS?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: My question says it all... HOW LONG UNTIL WE ALL GET AN AGA VERSION OF AMOS???? JB --------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Jamie Bentley - Graphic Artist - Since 1993 * 3D - FMV - Comics - Cartoon Animation Extreme knowledge with: | *PC | Science fiction - anims+object design *Amiga | Accident reconstruction *Silicon Graphics | Engine models *Flame and Paintbox | 2D graphic work aswell (morphing etc). -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "AMOS without AGA is like a car without wheels, it sucks!" From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 5 02:45:30 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 5 02:45:30 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27470 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 02:45:30 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA13912 for amos-out; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:16:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13909 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19784 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port71.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.53]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA06481 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:16:22 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1991 16:13:38 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: URGENT help needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id BAA13910 Status: RO X-Status: Hi... I made a program that was working fine up until now.. It says its out of data, and to be honest, DATA statements have always left me out in the cold. If you can help, I'll mail you the prog (its only a beta version) and the assosiated files.. luckily its only one room so far. Please note that this is a BETA version and is NOT TO BE GIVEN OUT TO ANYBODY (as said so by Vulcan software, and I know why). The sooner you reply to this the better! Jamie bentley From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 2 20:13:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 2 20:13:39 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21501 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:13:39 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15655 for amos-out; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15652 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:12:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iol.ie (mail1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.192]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09165 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from GPO.iol.ie (root@GPO1.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.196]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16044 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:12:21 +0100 Received: from iol.ie (cahill4@dialup-867.dublin.iol.ie [194.125.19.155]) by GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA00748 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:12:20 +0100 From: Peter Cahill To: The Amos List Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:50:09 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <313042D3BE09D111864400805F193BB3C983E8@EXCDUB-02.dblcc.eur.compaq.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: RE: amos.library v2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id MAA15653 Status: O X-Status: On 01-Apr-98, Nackros, Andreas wrote: >Hi, Hi >I also get totally lockup and a black screen with the new amos.library! >I have an A500 with kick 3.1. Since I have that interlace bug, I wouldn´t >mind getting that library to work! Im also getting the black lockup screen sometimes ! Ive got kickstart 3.0 and a A1200T 030@50 -- ____ _____ ___ ______________________________________ { \ }_ _{ \ { { { { O|{ { {{_{ O } } Aminet: }Projects: } { /_}{ { _{ / { { { { {{_ { {{_{ n \ } game/patch/alfred.lha }CBATNAM } {_{__}{_{__{_}\ \ { pics/icon/intel.lha { #The Game# { ________________ \ \ } dev/amos/clipfonts.lha } #Extension# } \ \ / {~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~{~~~~~~~~~~~~~{ Cahill \ \/ }A1200 030/50MHz,26Meg,4xCDrom,850MegHD} __________________\ {33.6k modem,2 floppys, etc... { } } ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~}~~~~~~~~~~~~~{ { cahill4@iol.ie { http://www.iol.ie/~cahill4/peter/index.html} } IRCnick PAC } *IAPA* member } Team *AMOS* { ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 03:30:43 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 03:30:43 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA16753 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 03:30:43 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA18759 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18756 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.beotel.net (ns.beotel.net [194.106.162.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10725 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from setnet.UUCP (Usetnet@localhost) by hermes.beotel.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/rchk1.19) with UUCP id JAA01884 for Amos-list@access.digex.net; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:04:46 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: hermes.beotel.net: Usetnet set sender to setnet!pol!brains using -f Received: by setnet.co.yu (0.99.970109) id AA04942; 03 Apr 98 07:37:50 +0100 From: brains@pol.setnet.co.yu (Vladimir Cabrilo) Date: 02 Apr 98 22:07:01 +0100 Subject: Zones 2 Message-ID: <665_9804030737@setnet.co.yu> To: Amos-list@access.digex.net Status: O X-Status: brains@setnet.co.yu mumbled something I could`t understand. by> Draw BUTX+6+FNTX*Len(TXT$),BUTY To BUTX+6+FNTX*Len(TXT$),BUTY+4+FNTY by> Draw BUTX,BUTY+4+FNTY To BUTX+6+FNTX*Len(TXT$),BUTY+4+FNTY by> Ink TXTCOL,BUTCOL by> Text BUTX+4,BUTY+9,TXT$ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, I made one little mistake. That line should go like this: Text BUTX+4,BUTY+1+FNTY,TXT$ Brains@SETNet.co.yu * Brains Software * Grand Master of the Frullah Klan ----------------------- Member of: Team *AMIGA* ------------------------- ... I know a good tagline when I steal one. --- Blue Wave v2.01 AmyBW [NR] From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 2 21:42:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 2 21:42:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10963 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:42:08 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00430 for amos-out; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:11:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00423 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03946 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.42.155]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id AAA2E84; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:11:11 +0200 From: joop de jong Reply-To: joopdejong@wxs.nl To: amos-list@access.digex.net CC: ghizzo@agonet.it Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:06:56 cst-2 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Joop, Marian, Mark, Bart Subject: re: Amos Report 29-Mar-98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Pietro Ghizzoni wrote: > There are several good news this time... let's go: > > I'm proud to announce *The Amos Factory*!!! What is it? The Amos Factory is > the new official AMOS homepage. Here you'll find all the upgrades, latest news, > developers materials and other stuffs. For celebrate the event, *3 upgrades* > are available! Ah, that's nice :) > - *The long awaited Gui Extension v1.70!* This is a beta archive. The doc > isn't 100% complete, but anyway it explain the new commands. There are some > examples in the archive... but don't worry the complete archive with the > full docs and tons of examples will ready as soon as possible. Well... as > you have heard several times, the GUI 1.70 allows you to use the new AGA > and graphic cards screen mode, public screen, on-line help mui-like, and > other useful stuffs (80+ new commands). Try it.... if you've used the > TCP/IP commands of the previous versions, you must save your programs in > ASCII, because i've totally rewritten them. > > - *FD Extension v2.0* I've fixed and solved all the problems of the > previous version... now the builder is more complete and easy to use. It > allows you to create different extensions, and select the destination slot. > > - and the big one! the *Amos.library upgrade!* I've reworked a bit the > code, and fixed a nasty bug... now the evil interlaced screens problem with > the AmigaOS v3.1 is fixed, and Amos opens interlaced screens correctly ;)) :(... I downloaded the new version of amos.library today and replaced the old with the new one (not throwing away the old ofcourse :)). Actually I almost never use an interlace screen but anyway, as I was just using a lowres screen in AMOS and used Amiga-A to switch to DPaint suddenly Interlace was activated. Pretty annoying and useless to use a lowres screen with interlace don't you think? :). Luckily, when you switch to another screen the interlace bit is being deactivated again. Please fix this bug because whe can't use a new one :(. > No bad, eh? :) Uhhh.. i've forgot the homepage address 8)... > > http://www.seta.it/amos/ > > OK... visit my homepage, all the material is on-line for free download! > (..as usual). Software is like sex, it's better when is free ;) (Richard > Stallmam) > > Special thanx to Fabrizio Bazzo for the free WWW space... THANK YOU! Everybody give an applause to Fabrizio :). > And now a quick message to all the gfx artists.... we *need* a new AMOS > logo!! It must be cool, and not a simple 'AMOS' like the original. Send me > your art works on or before April 15th. Come on! Why before April 15th if I might ask !? Is there something special about it or did you just pick it as an deadline ? > And now i want stress a important point about the Amos development.... > >The programming isn't my real job... i'm a dairyman, and i've my firm What's a dairyman ? > to handle, and usually this take all my time. I can program part-time, > usually in the weekends only, and so the work doesn't procede very fast :( > I've received the sources 1 month ago, but i've seriously worked on them > only a week. Anyway in this brief period, i've upgraded the GUI Extension, > created the FD extension and fixed some Amos bugs. I'm doing my best, but > Amos v3 will not be ready soon... Anyway, has anyone seen the programs I've uploaded to mush's ftp site. (AMOSLife.lzx, Cells.lzx, Computerface.lzx, GfxProgs.lzx). They are some of my older programs. Especially check out computerface :)). ----------------------------------------------------- Mark de Jong Member of Team *Amiga* & Team *AMOS* Proud owner of an A4000 & A1200 :))) ----------------------------------------------------- IRC: Niceguy on channels #AMOS, #AmigaNL, #Amiga on Saturdays between 11:00 and 13:30 ----------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 01:53:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 01:53:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA05409 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:53:27 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA18449 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18446 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26515 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126069.agonet.it [195.32.126.69]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA28421 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:55:53 +0200 From: Pietro Ghizzoni Reply-To: Pietro Ghizzoni To: Amos-List Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 07:00:31 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Dairymen Soft Subject: Amos.library bug... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.1747444864.2" Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. --BOUNDARY.1747444864.2 Content-Type: text/plain Hi! Thanks for the several reports... but i've a terrible suspect about the bug of my amos.library :( Anyway attached here there is a "new" amos.library... this is the orginal code, i've not modified nothing, just reassembled the source code. Try it, and let me know if there are problems... Ah, this version (.. and the other) works with AmosPro 2.0 only! 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(svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12254 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:10:19 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA19353 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19350 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27579 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from p07-kestrel-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.66.187]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA15360 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:52:14 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 3 Apr 98 07:05:05 +0100 Subject: Re: Backbone Troubles Message-Id: <35248A21.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: RO X-Status: >> > Basically, its just too big! The code is fairly big and it >> reserves > > a LOT of memory. > I don't think you can blame AMOS for this, basicaly the programs > isn't > that demanding with memory anyway. But if you'd like to cut on > memory- > usage there's a few ways: Well I've already done all your suggestions but the only solution is still when I either cut some code out or cut some variable space out. Now I'd love this problem to NOT be the fact thats its too big as I can't solve that but its still the only explanation I've got... -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 05:13:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 05:13:00 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18376 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:12:59 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA18901 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 03:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18898 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 03:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from magic.actonline.com.au (magic.actonline.com.au [203.29.91.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01591 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 03:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ricky.actonline.com.au (dialup25.actonline.com.au [203.29.91.95]) by magic.actonline.com.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA05973; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:12:50 +1000 Message-ID: <35249952.A2A5BE2F@actonline.com.au> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:09:54 +1000 From: Ricky Vuckovic X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sniper@technet2000.com.au CC: AMOS HELP Subject: Re: Real Time Scaling (IE: Monkey Island) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Jamie Bentley wrote: > Hello, > > I'm now making a new game called Island 51, with the complete > support of Vulcan software (sorry, I have to boast).. > > Anyway, I need to have realtime scaling, like in Monkey Island, I, > II, Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis etc. > > So if I click in the distance, as the character goes towards it, he > gets smaller, how can I do this REAL-TIME (at around 12-20fps) in > AMOS? Hmmm.. depends how big the characters are. If they're about Monkey Island size, you could try use the ZOOM command. So.. say you need one of the walking frames or something.. say frame 7... paste it onto the top left of a hidden screen, the use the ZOOM command, and do a GET BOB and use the end of the sprite list or something as a temp place where you hold the newly scaled (but temporary) character - you don't want to overwrite the original graphics. So in a way, you'll have all your images loaded as sprites/bobs, but you only ever display the last one (zoomed one) for your character. It has a few problems though: You wont be able to use AMAL 'cause it's always the same image you will be using.. but that isn't too huge a problem. It may get a bit annoying to code when you have variable numbers of people on the screen that move around. So either they can't move anywhere or you'll have something like Length(1) is the main character, Length(1)-1 all the way to Length(1)-bla for all the other characters. There is also the speed thing. The ZOOM function takes a while to do... but it shouldn't be noticable unless you have huge characters (as I said, Monkey Island size should be fine), also, compiling should reduce that a bit too. You may run into trouble if you're moving around 5 or so people. It's also a bit untidy to be constantly pasting, zooming, copying the characters. I'm not sure how many frames of animation your characters have but I guess it's probably to large to hold on some hidden screen so that you don't actually load a sprite bank, you just have a screen with all the frames on it. There is another, much faster way... it involves a routine used in the Sprite/Object Creator accessory given with AMOS, there's an assembler program called Fast Zoom or something, it seems to be pretty damn quick... shame I have no idea how it works, but if anybody else knows, maybe they can help. One final note about scaling, it looks cool when your character walks away into the distance, but when they get close to the camera, they get pretty chunky, so either you're gonna have to draw the characters big, or just have a limit where they reach the foreground and not scale any larger. Well.. hope it helped, if anything sounds stupid or confusing, just yell back. Good Luck. Ricky. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 04:25:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 04:25:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27421 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 04:25:19 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA18828 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18825 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:59:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA04201 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab1026414; 3 Apr 98 7:52 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0041e; Fri, 3 Apr 98 08:29:54 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Apr 98 08:29:54 GMT Message-Id: <9804030829.AA00419@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <26185f00.u10t12e.c487a-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Pietro Ghizzoni ) (at Fri, 03 Apr 1998 07:00:31 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: ghizzo@agonet.it Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Amos.library bug... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id CAA18826 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Pietro, > Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not > support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. > To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. Base64 is a PAIN. PLEASE UUencode. > Thanks for the several reports... but i've a terrible suspect about the bug of > my amos.library :( > Anyway attached here there is a "new" amos.library... this is the orginal > code, i've not modified nothing, just reassembled the source code. Try it, and > let me know if there are problems... Uh-oh.... ;-) > Ah, this version (.. and the other) works with AmosPro 2.0 only! > P.S I'm *sorry* for the message length, next time i'll put the archive on my > homepage.... ...well, seeing as it's you're developing amos, and that I'm no longer able to duplicate the bug, and it seems to work.. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "As if !" |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 12:00:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 12:00:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02958 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:00:18 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19900 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19897 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26375 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3747 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1998 13:31:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.148) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 3 Apr 1998 13:31:44 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:31:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Im back... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: OK, now all the parts I ordered formy Amiga have arrived and been installed, im now fully functional again. I also added a whippet to the modem, which seems to make transfers on the FTP site a lot faster with multiple connections. Im also going to finish off the docs for GUI Extension V1.70 today and tomorrow and probably send them tothe list as well as pietro so I know everyone has them. Those people who emailed me, please be patient with a reply as I have so manyty mails to go through. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 10:17:55 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 10:17:55 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07019 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:17:55 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19923 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19920 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA29331 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4239 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1998 13:33:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.148) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 3 Apr 1998 13:33:19 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:33:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: DopusRT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Does anyone have this file for Directory Opus 4? Mines gone, and I cant launch any external programs without it and its driving me crazy. Please email it to me personally. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 15:08:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 3 15:08:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14980 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:08:24 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA20240 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:45:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20236 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:45:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.13]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24917 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:45:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.201]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA26082; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:42:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-18-1-9.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.143.74]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA20567; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:42:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Palle Anker Larsen Reply-To: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk To: Amos-List , Pietro Ghizzoni Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 15:31:34 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Subject: Amos.library (the one without interlace bug) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hi!! I've used the amos.library (without interlace bug) since it came out, and it works like a charme. I can flip betwen amos and wb multible times without problems, the old library used to make gfxgarbage and lock the system very often, but that problem is gone. The amos.library sendt to the mailing list is exactly the same as the one that followed my original amos v2.00, so nothing has changed since that time :). I'm using: A4k CyberStorm 060 MKII CyberVision 64/4 CyberSCSI MKII KS/WB 3.1 (KS:r40.68/WB:r40.42) Perhaps the problems that some people has, is related to the 500/KS 3.1 combination, or maby in the Revision of the KS/WB. -- Best Wishes Palle. Reality is for people who lack imagination. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 4 01:42:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 4 01:42:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26892 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:42:38 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA27509 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA27506 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA07637 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13946 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1998 04:41:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.84) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 4 Apr 1998 04:41:53 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:35:02 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: DopusRT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Thanks to all those who sent me the DopusRT file (all 12 of you, hehe). Later. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 4 02:04:41 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 4 02:04:41 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27148 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 02:04:40 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA27514 for amos-out; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA27511 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:40:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA08940 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13959 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1998 04:41:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.84) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 4 Apr 1998 04:41:55 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:39:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: New AMOS Logo`s MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: For those who are interested, a mate of mine made a small animation for the new AMOSPro logo. It can be grabbed from my FTP site in /pub/newamos/ as an AVI file, and also an AnimGIF. Please give me your comments to the list if you prefer, that way the points can be argued out. To get to the FTP site, log in as anonymous to mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org, or in the web browser, type: ftp://mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 4 18:21:40 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 4 18:21:40 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06992 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 18:21:39 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA07693 for amos-out; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07690 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19999 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 199 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1998 20:57:58 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk (194.239.134.174) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 4 Apr 1998 20:57:58 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk ([194.239.152.6]) by post10.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAD24918; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 21:57:57 +0100 From: Rune Zedeler To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com CC: AMOS List Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 21:38:46 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0000E383.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Re[2]: Sorting Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id PAA07691 Status: O X-Status: On 30-Mar-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote: > Thanks, I will try this out later. One thing I should point out is > that I made a bit of an error when I said 128 blocks of 256k. This > should read 128 of 256 bytes. Would this have much effect on the code > provided below? No, just change "256*1024" (in the first line) to "256" You could say that my program was designed to move big chunks of memory, but it should work with small blocks as well :) -- /¯\ __ __ /¯¯¯¯¯\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \¯-_ Peter Rørdams Vej 19 \ / //¯| \\/ ||¯\ \\¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯-_ 2800 Lyngby ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / ¯¯¯¯¯\\|\-'/ /¯¯¯¯¯ \\____________ _-¯ ¯¯¯¯¯\------'/||¯¯| \------'/ /_-¯ rzedeler@post10.tele.dk ¯¯¯¯¯¯\-'/ \-'/¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯ Tel: +45-45871730 ¯¯ ¯¯ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 4 17:22:31 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 4 17:22:31 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26056 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 17:22:30 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA07990 for amos-out; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 16:12:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07987 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 16:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate (mailgate.telusplanet.net [199.185.220.53]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21456 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 16:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from clgrps05.agt.net ([198.161.156.16]:37224 "EHLO clgrps05.agt.net" ident: "IDENT-NOT-QUERIED [port 37224]") by mailgate.telusplanet.net with ESMTP id <55698-12231>; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:12:09 -0700 Received: from telusplanet.net ([204.209.201.28]) by mail.telusplanet.net with SMTP id <268158-10167>; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:11:31 -0700 From: Dale Hymanyk Reply-To: dhymanyk@telusplanet.net To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 14:06:33 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Gui Help Needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: I've been trying to use the Gui Extension to add a proper front-end to a little file conversion utility I wrote some time ago. I'm using GUI 1.7beta. I've created my Gui in GadtoolsBox--no problem. Converted the Gui into an AMOS bank--OK so far. Thus far, everything works when I run the Gui alone. I want the user to press a button to bring up a file selector(I'm OK with bringing up the selector-thanks to Mush's example code). How do I know if a button has been selected? What does it return when pressed? Once the file is chosen I want the file name to be displayed in a text box (is this the right gadget to use?). How do I get the file string into the text box? As well, I'd like another text box to display the data as it is being processed, but I imagine this is the same as above. I realize that the complete docs are about to come out but if anyone can help I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Dale ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dale Hymanyk Alberta, Canada e-mail: dhymanyk@telusplanet.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 5 01:09:48 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 5 01:09:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01085 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:09:47 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA13088 for amos-out; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13085 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA16016 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:45:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29637 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1998 03:45:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-46.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.174) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 5 Apr 1998 03:45:00 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00ovi; Sat, 4 Apr 98 22:44:03 GMT Date: Sat, 4 Apr 98 22:44:03 GMT Message-Id: <9804042244.AA00ovh@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: "Roy Antonsen" (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] DopusRT Status: O X-Status: If your are able to read this, your reader is not MIME compliant. Use Metamail or a MIME aware reader to view the message properly. --p4TteRSuKXBIgGr8gRiNDIkkZAlLD3I Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 04-Apr-98 05:32:58, Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) wrote: >Does anyone have this file for Directory Opus 4? Mines gone, and I cant >launch any external programs without it and its driving me crazy. Please >email it to me personally. Here ya go. 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From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 5 00:28:55 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 5 00:28:55 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09257 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 00:28:55 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA13079 for amos-out; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13076 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01310 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28500 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1998 03:39:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.174) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 5 Apr 1998 03:39:16 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Dale Hymanyk CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 22:39:05 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Gui Help Needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > I've been trying to use the Gui Extension to add a proper front-end to a > little file conversion utility I wrote some time ago. I'm using GUI 1.7beta. OOh. > I've created my Gui in GadtoolsBox--no problem. > Converted the Gui into an AMOS bank--OK so far. > Thus far, everything works when I run the Gui alone. OK > I want the user to press a button to bring up a file selector(I'm OK with > bringing up the selector-thanks to Mush's example code). How do I know if a > button has been selected? What does it return when pressed? OK, the easiest way to check, is to look in GUI FILE$ and GUI DIR$ for the values. If the user hit CANCEL then the 2 should be emptystrings. > Once the file is chosen I want the file name to be displayed in a text box (is > this the right gadget to use?). How do I get the file string into the text > box? Simple. FILE$=Gui Asl$():Gui Set window,gadget,0,VARPTR(FILE$) > As well, I'd like another text box to display the data as it is being > processed, but I imagine this is the same as above. Use a similar method as above > I realize that the complete docs are about to come out but if anyone can help > I'd appreciate it. I should have them done by the end of tomorrow (sunday) Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 5 16:26:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 5 16:26:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11976 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:26:16 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18297 for amos-out; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18294 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18867 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13763 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1998 20:34:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-46.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.174) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 5 Apr 1998 20:34:57 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00ovn; Sun, 5 Apr 98 15:34:45 GMT Date: Sun, 5 Apr 98 15:34:45 GMT Message-Id: <9804051534.AA00ovm@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: JBB (Jean-Baptiste Bolcato) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Amos.library (the one without interlace bug) Status: O X-Status: On 04 Apr 98 04:33:09 Palle Anker Larsen wrote about "[AMOSList] Amos.library (the one without interlace bug)": > Hi!! > I've used the amos.library (without interlace bug) since it came out, > and it works like a charme. :( On my system, almost the same as yours, the library hangs everything with the black screen... Too bad, because I miss the interlace mode very much. I'm using: A3000 CyberStorm 060 MKII CyberVision 64/2 KS/WB 3.1 (KS:r40.68/WB:r40.42) I'm also using MCX, ModePro and Dopus566 as patches... -------------------------------------- - ____ - - J B B / / / Jean-Baptiste Bolcato - - ____ / / / - - \ \ \/ / / A3060-CV64 + YAM20beta - - \ \/ / / - - \/_/_/ starsky@club-internet.fr - - - -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 5 11:18:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 5 11:18:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19953 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:18:27 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14626 for amos-out; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14623 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-02-92.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.128.92]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28218 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp7-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.56]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA19559 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 11:03:21 -0500 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 10:58:28 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Gui Help Needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 04-Apr-98, Dale Hymanyk wrote: How do I know if a >button has been selected? A=Gui Wait A will return the button number. What does it return when pressed? Gui Code or something will get you the rest of the info. This is all in the docs, you know. Q8-{) Don't worry, Mush is doing more examples, and I'm working on the tcp demos and commands. It will come clear soon. in a text box (is >this the right gadget to use?). Yes. How do I get the file string into the text >box? Gui Set with varptr(txt$) Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 8 05:27:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 8 05:27:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21618 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:27:14 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA29143 for amos-out; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29140 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shylock.mcs.co.uk (mcsgate.mcs.co.uk [193.32.81.102]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA21835 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804080901.FAA21835@pony-1.mail.digex.net> Received: tid KAA13733; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:24:16 +0100 Received: from PCATW.mcs.co.uk [193.32.50.229] by MCSDEV.MCS.CO.UK with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:59 GMT Date: , 08 1998 09:00:00 GMT To: amos-list@access.digex.net CC: gbenjam@sosbbs.com From: spudley@mr-potatohead.com (Simon Champion) Subject: Re: need help rotating a map!! X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; Opera/3.0; Windows 95/NT4) v3.1 Status: O X-Status: >> Basically, you're going to do the same job as Garfield's code - >> moving rows into columns, but we'll move only four array fields at >> once, so we can avoid having to copy the entire array. >> Starting with the outer corners, copy the variables at each corner >> (A, E, U and Y) into your four scratch variables, then copy them back >> out to their new position (ie A goes to E, E goes to U, etc, or the >> other way round...). > Excellent design!! It's not complicated at all, in fact it's so simple > it's brilliant (the mark of a great design!!). Well done. :-) Thanks :-)) Glad you like it. I was a little worried that I wouldn't be able to explain it well enough, so I'm glad it made sense to you :-) Always, when I write a program, I ask myself how can I save variable space? Doesn't matter what language I use, that's just the kind of programmer I am. Oh well... any other programming problems to solve? / \ I |\/| () |\| --/------------------> Champion --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Old kings never die... they just get throne away." From setnet!pol!brains@hermes.beotel.net Thu Apr 2 02:35:40 1998 >From setnet!pol!brains@hermes.beotel.net Thu Apr 2 02:35:40 1998 Received: from hermes.beotel.net (ns.beotel.net [194.106.162.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18987 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:35:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from setnet.UUCP (Usetnet@localhost) by hermes.beotel.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/rchk1.19) with UUCP id JAA31060 for mcox@access.digex.net; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:04:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: hermes.beotel.net: Usetnet set sender to setnet!pol!brains using -f Received: by setnet.co.yu (0.99.970109) id AA04878; 02 Apr 98 07:36:38 +0100 From: brains@pol.setnet.co.yu (Vladimir Cabrilo) Date: 02 Apr 98 00:56:01 +0100 Subject: AMOS FAQ Message-ID: <615_9804020736@setnet.co.yu> To: mcox@access.digex.net Status: RO X-Status: mcox@access.digex.net mumbled something I could`t understand. Cool FAQ. :)))) mn> 4) Where can I get the updates? mn> There are many ways: mn> A) If you do not have FTP access, I can uuencode it and mn> email it to you Can you please send AmosPro update (from v1.0 to v2.0) to Chivan@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu (attached to a dummy mesage) if it`s smaller then 1.2 MB (limit :((( ) because I haven`t got FTP. mn> 5) What extension slots are being used? Thanks to Steffen Medrow mn> (smedrow@fh-stralsund.de)! mn> 4 | 3D V1.00 | 3D V1.02AP ^^^^^^^^^^ Where can I get this extension, and which one will allow me to use AGA chipset? Brains@SETNet.co.yu * Brains Software * Grand Master of the Frullah Klan ----------------------- Member of: Team *AMIGA* ------------------------- ... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL! --- Blue Wave v2.01 AmyBW [NR] From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 7 18:56:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 7 18:56:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22761 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:56:27 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15568 for amos-out; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15563 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from serv4.vossnet.co.uk (serv4.vossnet.co.uk [195.188.10.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21469 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vossnet.co.uk (champion@serv1.vossnet.co.uk [195.188.10.2]) by serv4.vossnet.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA09827 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:56:01 +0100 (BST) From: Simon Champion Reply-To: Simon Champion To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 22:50:06 BST Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: need help rotating a map!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: To: Amos List Fm: Simon Champion More than a month ago, Cori Skagan wrote: >>Hello, >>I'm making a dungeon game its levels are 50x50 stored in an array >>I need some code to rotate this map 90 degrees in either direction.. >>could anyone help me with this? >>Any help would be appreciated. To which Garfield Benjamin replied: > For the sake of simplicity, the code below assumes you're useing a > two-dimensional array to store your map. Obviously, a one- > dimensional array or particularly a binary array would be more > effiecient, but you can apply the design to whatever method you're > actually using... > >..... Right. Firstly, sorry this took a month to get a reply, but I'm not getting the amos-list mailled to me right now... my boss objected to me getting so much mail :-( So I only saw this when the list was uploaded to Aminet. Anyway, here's my reply, for what it's worth..... =-=-=-=-=-=- Ok. Garfield's method will work, but it takes double the memory required for the task - ie his array for a 50x50 map is (50,100). If you want to do this using just a 50x50 array, and a minimum of extra mem, it can be done with just four spare variables, rather than a copy of the whole array. The only caveat is that your array *must* be square for this to work (ie same number of elements length and width)... but then rotating it would be tricky without that being the case, whatever.... It's a little (ok.. a lot!) more complicated, so I appologise in advance if this is a little long-winded. ;-) Lets draw up an array to demonstrate with: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Basically, you're going to do the same job as Garfield's code - moving rows into columns, but we'll move only four array fields at once, so we can avoid having to copy the entire array. Starting with the outer corners, copy the variables at each corner (A, E, U and Y) into your four scratch variables, then copy them back out to their new position (ie A goes to E, E goes to U, etc, or the other way round...). So we now have: U B C D A F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T Y V W X U This would be in a loop, of course, so we increase the loop, and do the same job for the second in the array position after the corners - ie the variables I've called B, J, X and P. Keep going till you've done the outside edge of the array.... U P K F A V G H I B W L M N C X Q R S D Y T O J E ....and then (you'll need a second loop for this), move inward, and do the next 'layer' of the array (G, H, I, N, R, Q, L), starting at the corners, like before. When you get to the middle, if the array is an odd number of elements, you can even save yourself having to rotate the centre point (M stays the same however you rotate it). Ok... This is a rough outline of how the code would work... It's almost Amos code, but not quite. (I'm using semicolon for comments, etc ;) Anyway, it should be adaptable for most of you. Hope someone finds it useful. DEPTH=50; Map size Dim MAP(DEPTH,DEPTH); The map itself DIM TEMP(4); Those four scratch variables. : : Procedure ROT_CLOCK LY=DEPTH/2 ; You might want to hard code LY for speed and ; accuracy (ie to avoid wasting time rotating ; the M in my example if it's an odd-sized array) For LAYER=1 to LY For POS=LAYER to DEPTH-LAYER TEMP(1)=MAP(POS,LAYER) ; A (or B or whatever...) TEMP(2)=MAP(LAYER,DEPTH-POS+1) ; E (or J...) TEMP(3)=MAP(DEPTH-LAYER+1,DEPTH-POS+1) ; Y (or X..) TEMP(4)=MAP(POS,DEPTH-LAYER+1) ; U (or P) MAP(POS,LAYER)=TEMP(4) ; A becomes U MAP(LAYER,DEPTH-POS+1)=TEMP(1) ; E becomes A MAP(DEPTH-LAYER+1,DEPTH-POS+1)=TEMP(2) ; Y becomes E MAP(POS,DEPTH-LAYER+1)=TEMP(3) ; and U becomes Y. Next Next To do an anit-clockwise rotation, simply change the last four lines that set the new values of MAP, so they the TEMP subscripts go in a different sequence - 2, 3, 4, 1. In fact, you could turn the whole thing over 180 degrees in one go, as well, by putting the subscripts in the sequence 3, 4, 1, 2. (that would be a rotation, not a y axis flip). You might gain another slight memory and speed bonus by not using an array for the temp variables. I have used one here more for clarity, so you can see what I'm saying, than for any other reason. Ok. That's my say! -- / |\ / \ | \ / /.|_/.\_ . (Simon Champion) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If you thought *anything* was possible, try skiing through revolving doors." From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 00:16:48 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 00:16:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05072 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:16:48 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA19702 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19699 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA14812 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9943 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 04:25:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.174) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 04:25:59 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 21:44:31 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: URGENT help needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: > Hi... > I made a program that was working fine up until now.. It says its out of data, and to be honest, DATA statements have always left me out in the cold. > If you can help, I'll mail you the prog (its only a beta version) and the assosiated files.. luckily its only one room so far. > Please note that this is a BETA version and is NOT TO BE GIVEN OUT TO ANYBODY (as said so by Vulcan software, and I know why). > The sooner you reply to this the better! What kind of program is it, and what does it do exactly? have you tried a counter-effect in the program to verify all your data you entered. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 01:00:26 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 01:00:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25711 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:00:25 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA19707 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19704 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA17089 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:24:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10009 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 04:26:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.174) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 04:26:07 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:14:35 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <35056A01.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: EH ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: > Regarding my earlier questions, > F1 Software say that the AmosPro (AP) Compiler will definately *NOT* > work with the Amiga Format verison of AP, and that I'm to tell you, > you're /"all wrong"/. Thats old news. The only bit which "doesnt work" when you think about it, is there are only 2 of the 6 disks that the updator disk needs to update. I know plenty of people who have the coverdisk version of AP and bought the compiler from me with no problems. > Blitz Basic will probably do all that I need. But I hate it. It's > unfriendly, It's ugly, it's dull and it probably supports Man Utd as > well (no offence to all Man.U fans in Cornwall). > Could somebody pleeeeeaaaase clear this one up for me. All I want is > any Amos and its compiler. I have:- > _SOFTWARE_ > /Amos Pro/ > /Amos 1.3/ > /Easy Amos/ - All from Amiga Format coverdisks. > /Amos Compiler (1.3)/ - orig. > _HARDWARE_ > /A1200 HD/ > /Blizzard 060/ > /Printer, modem....bits and bobs/ > - Amos Pro is the only one that seems compatible with my system. I > can't anyone (UK) willing to sell me the original - yet someone > mentioned that they have the coverdisks and compiler running....how? I just bought a copy after searching for over 2 years. Im holding onto mine for life now. hehe. > Question.1) > /Is original compiler compatible with Pro as stated in docs?/ Yes, so long as it doesnt use any Pro-only commands. Extreme AMOS 3 was written using amospro and compiled with Classic AMOS. > Question.2) > /Help....pleeeeassssseeee/ Heh. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 04:33:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 04:33:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01153 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:33:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA20103 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 03:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20100 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 03:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA24331 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 03:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2050 invoked by uid 1514); 6 Apr 1998 07:48:15 -0000 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:48:15 +0100 (IST) From: Matt To: Amos-List Subject: Re: Amos.library (the one without interlace bug) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I'm not sure what the so called interlace bug is - I have 3.0WB - is it 3.1 it happens with? Anyway my old libray worked ok, the second 47000 in size caused WB to be in interlace when flipping between, the third is grand. One related(?) problem I have always had on my A4000 is that if a screen of size less than about 128pixels wide is "wrapped" 1/2 way around itself - this was never a problem with my A500. ### ### ######## ########### ########### #### #### ### ### ### ### ##!## ##!## #!# #!# #!# #!# !#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@! !@! !@! mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie !!! ! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! x x :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: \__/ ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: :: :: :: :: : : From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 10:12:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 10:12:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09559 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:12:05 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20424 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20421 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA01940 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11780 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 11:47:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.106) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 11:47:21 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 06:47:09 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00011745.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: GUI Problem - Procedure Calls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > > I am not quite sure if this is a GUI related problem but I am using > GUI V1.7 beta in my program. > > My problem is that each procedure in my program is being called even > when I do not have any code specifically calling them. My programs > main loop goes something like this...... > > Repeat > > G=Gui Wait > > If Gui Read(1,0) then Procedure 0 > If Gui Read(1,1) then Procedure 1 > If Gui Read(1,2) then Procedure 2 > > Until G=-1 > > Each of the Gui's are sliders so I am basically asking that if a > slider is moved jump to the designated procedure. What is happening > is that every procedure is called regardless. Can anyone help? > Well, firstly, are the sliders >0 to activate the procedure, as this will be called every procedure unless they are at 0. If your just looking for movement, try putting a Gui Event before each one: v=Gui Event : If Gui Read(1,0) then Proc 0 If your looking for just small movements, use a variable as well: If Gui Read(1,0) And VAR<>LAST then Procedure 0 Explain the situation a little better!! Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 09:29:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 09:29:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02393 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:29:00 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20429 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:48:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20426 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18895 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12030 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 11:48:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.106) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 11:48:17 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com, AMOS List , "Mr. Giark To You" Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 06:48:06 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000117A0.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re[3]: Gui Help Needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > >>> Mush is doing more examples, and I'm working on the tcp demos and >>> commands. It will come clear soon. > > Could you include some decent Arexx examples too. I`ll see what I can do. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 08:45:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 08:45:59 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02070 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:45:58 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA20718 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20715 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ganymede.eclipse.co.uk (ganymede.eclipse.co.uk [195.188.32.4]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28197 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p050.5399-1.routers.ispc.net ([195.188.105.70]) by ganymede.eclipse.co.uk (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with ESMTP id AAC29996 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:25:14 +0100 From: "tobes" Organization: Private User Date: 6 Apr 98 13:23:45 +0000 Subject: Re: Eh! Message-Id: <3528D761.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: Thanks Andy.K for clearing up a couple of things. Can anyone now tell me how I should install the original *1.3* compiler onto the Amiga Format *Pro* coverdisks. I have tried the standard way, but the install program asks for the *1.3* executable (renaming Pro didn't work). Again, sorry if this is all a bit basic (no pun intended), but we all have to start some where. Ta. -- ____________________________________ (o _ _ o) | ( )_ __( )_ ___ ___ | | | _) ) ) _ ) __) | | | || | | | | _|__ | | | (___)__)___)___)___)@eclipse.co.uk | (o__________________________________o) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 05:45:31 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 05:45:31 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12319 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:45:31 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20163 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20160 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04298 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:54:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from mail1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA136 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:57:11 -0600 Received: from ccMail by mail1.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 00011745; Mon, 6 Apr 98 02:48:21 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:48:30 -0600 Message-ID: <00011745.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: GUI Problem - Procedure Calls To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: I am not quite sure if this is a GUI related problem but I am using GUI V1.7 beta in my program. My problem is that each procedure in my program is being called even when I do not have any code specifically calling them. My programs main loop goes something like this...... Repeat G=Gui Wait If Gui Read(1,0) then Procedure 0 If Gui Read(1,1) then Procedure 1 If Gui Read(1,2) then Procedure 2 Until G=-1 Each of the Gui's are sliders so I am basically asking that if a slider is moved jump to the designated procedure. What is happening is that every procedure is called regardless. Can anyone help? Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 05:15:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 05:15:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09694 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:15:49 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA20204 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20201 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07805 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:31:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from mail1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA193 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 03:36:03 -0600 Received: from ccMail by mail1.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 000117A0; Mon, 6 Apr 98 03:28:05 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:10:59 -0600 Message-ID: <000117A0.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re[2]: Gui Help Needed To: AMOS List , "Mr. Giark To You" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: >>Mush is doing more examples, and I'm working on the tcp demos and >>commands. It will come clear soon. Could you include some decent Arexx examples too. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 06:46:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 06:46:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20135 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:46:14 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA20230 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20227 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06938 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:41:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from mail1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA151 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 03:45:07 -0600 Received: from ccMail by mail1.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 000117CD; Mon, 6 Apr 98 03:38:15 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:31:55 -0600 Message-ID: <000117CD.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re: New AMOS Logo`s To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Very nice indeed...... From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 17:27:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 17:27:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16040 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:27:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA12518 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12515 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24541 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21818 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 19:28:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.106) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 19:28:31 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 14:28:19 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: How much HD space? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Anyone know how I can make AMOS get the original size of a partition on my HD, IE, how could i make it so i know the ttal space of my HD. Just a question which has bothered me for a while. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 20:56:47 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 20:56:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23379 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:56:46 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA18561 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18558 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de (much-magic.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.67.251]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27485 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:32:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (citrone@localhost) by wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA08947; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:38:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:38:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Cit Rone To: Andy Kellett cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: How much HD space? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Andy Kellett wrote: > Anyone know how I can make AMOS get the original size of a partition on my > HD, IE, how could i make it so i know the ttal space of my HD. Just a > question which has bothered me for a while. > There is a procedure called _DISKINFO[] somewhere on the Productivy or Example disks. Dont sure where exactly, but I have the source here on my HD. If you like it i can send them; just ask! :) citrone > Mush (...) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 21:53:48 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 6 21:53:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12164 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:53:47 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA19777 for amos-out; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19774 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oznet14.ozemail.com.au (oznet14.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.120]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15492 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:20:13 -0400 (EDT) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie ([203.38.11.157]) by oznet14.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA16803 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:20:05 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35297F3A.72B1@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:19:54 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: New Anim Screenshots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Hi, Just thought I`d let you know that I have uploaded more screenshots from the StarFighter cutscenes... http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geosync/scrnst6.htm Please have a look. Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 7 15:54:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 7 15:54:00 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21660 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:53:59 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12512 for amos-out; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12507 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA25014 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7355 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 18:03:47 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 18:03:47 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.54]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA32524 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:03:45 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:24:18 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: GUI-Compiler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id OAA12509 Status: O X-Status: Hello, Here's a couple of things that annoys me on the GUI-compiler. I write it in the hope that the author reads it ;-). 1) Why can't we get an option to compile the current program, just like the old compiler ??? 2) PLEASE make a 'save prefs' option, I always forget to change the options I use. 3) I know the 'built-in' packer don't work, but how about an option to do a PP-pack on the compiled program (Or stonecrack or Intui...).. Except from these things, it's a great piece of work, thanks... -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Save energy: Drive a smaller shell. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 7 17:13:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 7 17:13:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23646 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:13:56 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12523 for amos-out; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12520 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12208 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7372 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 18:03:52 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 18:03:52 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.54]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAC32524 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:03:51 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:33:13 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: How much HD space? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id OAA12521 Status: O X-Status: On 06-Apr-98, Cit Rone smashed the keyboard with: >> Anyone know how I can make AMOS get the original size of a partition on my >> HD, IE, how could i make it so i know the ttal space of my HD. Just a >> question which has bothered me for a while. >> > > There is a procedure called _DISKINFO[] somewhere on the Productivy or > Example disks. Dont sure where exactly, but I have the source here on my > HD. If you like it i can send them; just ask! :) You'll find it as: 'Productivity2/Procedures/Disc/_Disc_Info.AMOS' -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 7 11:49:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 7 11:49:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20667 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:49:29 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00623 for amos-out; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00620 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA29007 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27208 invoked by uid 1514); 7 Apr 1998 12:06:23 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:06:22 +0100 (IST) From: Matt To: Amos-List Subject: Comparing colours Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi all! Can anyone recommend the best way to compare colours and get a figure of how close they match (100% match etc.) Thanks! ### ### ######## ########### ########### #### #### ### ### ### ### ##!## ##!## #!# #!# #!# #!# !#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@! !@! !@! mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie !!! ! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! x x :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: \__/ ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: :: :: :: :: : : From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 7 21:48:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 7 21:48:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29778 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:48:24 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA28110 for amos-out; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA28107 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA10981 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (204.186.168.65) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:47:15 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" , "Simon Champion" Subject: Re: need help rotating a map!! Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:03:13 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Basically, you're going to do the same job as Garfield's code - > moving rows into columns, but we'll move only four array fields at > once, so we can avoid having to copy the entire array. > Starting with the outer corners, copy the variables at each corner > (A, E, U and Y) into your four scratch variables, then copy them back > out to their new position (ie A goes to E, E goes to U, etc, or the > other way round...). Excellent design!! It's not complicated at all, in fact it's so simple it's brilliant (the mark of a great design!!). Well done. :-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 8 14:41:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 8 14:41:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09420 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:41:20 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA10232 for amos-out; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:51:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10229 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10896 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26264 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1998 15:51:34 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk (194.239.134.174) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 8 Apr 1998 15:51:34 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk ([194.239.152.21]) by post10.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA18322 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:51:16 +0100 From: Rune Zedeler To: Matt Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:16:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Comparing colours MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id LAA10230 Status: O X-Status: On 07-Apr-98, Matt wrote: >Can anyone recommend the best way to compare colours and get a figure >of how close they match (100% match etc.) Thanks! If I understand you right then you have two colours that you want to compare. Use somthing like MISMATCH=(3*(R2-R1))^2+(5*(G2-G1))^2+(B2-B1)^2 which can be optimized to MISMATCH=9*(R2-R1)*(R2-R1)+25*(G2-G1)*(G2-G1)+(B2-B1)*(B2-B1) which can be further compiler-optimized to RD=(R2-R1)*(R2-R1) : GD=(G2-G1)*(G2-G1) MISMATCH=8*RD+RD+16*GD+8*GD+GD+(B2-B1)*(B2-B1) the lower MISMATCH, the better match. That is if MISMATCH=0 then we have perfect match. ( It's normal to weigth red 3 times and green 5 times. That just means that the green is 5 times as important as the blue. The reason why I square the differences is that it's better to have all three colours differing a bit than to have two colours matching perfect and the third one differing a lot; it's normal to square differences if you are to sum them... ) -- /¯\ __ __ /¯¯¯¯¯\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \¯-_ Peter Rørdams Vej 19 \ / //¯| \\/ ||¯\ \\¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯-_ 2800 Lyngby ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / ¯¯¯¯¯\\|\-'/ /¯¯¯¯¯ \\____________ _-¯ ¯¯¯¯¯\------'/||¯¯| \------'/ /_-¯ rzedeler@post10.tele.dk ¯¯¯¯¯¯\-'/ \-'/¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯ Tel: +45-45871730 ¯¯ ¯¯ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 01:03:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 01:03:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18424 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:03:20 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA29085 for amos-out; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA29082 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA08493 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5009 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 04:40:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.140) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 04:40:55 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Ryan Watson CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:01:57 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199804092257.RAA06748@smtp2.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Old/New GUI lib problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Okay... I noticed that after installing the new version of the GUI library > the commands in all my programs made with the old version got fooked up. Is > the only way to restore them by re-installing the old version, exporting > ASCII, and reimporting under new version? or is there and easier way of > doing this? Nope, thats the only way to do it. When the extension is remade with new commands, some of the tables are messed up a bit. This is standard for every AMOS extension when upgrading to a newer version. Its in the docs of all extensions. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 03:33:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 03:33:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA27873 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:33:52 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA29236 for amos-out; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:43:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA29233 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA09052 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10598 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 06:45:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.140) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 06:45:11 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:02:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Gui Extension V1.70 Bug? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Ive received a bug report that the Gui Clone doesnt work properly on CyberGFX screens. Can anyone out there verify this? Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 18:19:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 18:19:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13467 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:19:37 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA19965 for amos-out; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19962 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA23297 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1336 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1998 21:22:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.134) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 9 Apr 1998 21:22:21 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:04:43 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Tutorial Series as a List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > hey guys, > maybe we should all chip in and write Micheal's > Amos tutorials together, I think it'd be a great > project for the list, newbies can write in asking > what they want to know, and the old pros can > answer and suggest what they think it is > most important to know, what do you guys think? Its a good idea, i`ll start it by posting one of my older tutorials from Extreme AMOS, just to get the ball rolling. Later. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 01:20:26 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 01:20:26 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16280 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:20:25 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA29102 for amos-out; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA29099 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA27575 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5814 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1998 04:45:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.140) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 10 Apr 1998 04:45:16 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Rod Whiteley CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:06:17 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: GUIExt queries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Hi all, > I have a couple of questions for which I hope there are some simple answers in > regard the GUIExt 1.70 OK, fire away > 1. Is there a way of writing a listview that supports multiple selection of > items (i.e., the ability to select many of the items on the list rather than > just the one)? Not at the moment =/ I hope that pietro finds some way to overcome this in maybe a future release, as its not very comman in a gadtools interface anyway. > 2. The GUI Clone command looks great. To use it I imagine I'm going to have to > open either a public screen, or a window on an open screen. Any screen, with a window exactly the same size as that of the screen you are cloning to it. You`ll also have to change the palette accordingly. > 2 (i) How do I find a list of the Mode ID's for the available screens to > specify in Gui Screen Open? You cant. ModeID`s are the same on all machines, so just use the A=Gui Monitor() command to check for specific ones, compiling a sort of list as you go. > 2 (ii) Is it then just a simple matter of using Gui clone 1,True to copy my > current programmes to a public screen/window in an OS friendly way? Yes. One of my examples shows the command off fully. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 20:04:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 20:04:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02089 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:04:35 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA24841 for amos-out; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:31:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24838 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA19071 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8303 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1998 23:30:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.96) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 9 Apr 1998 23:30:15 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net CC: Australian Amiga Gazette Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:27:25 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: AMOS Tutorial - Using IFF Fonts with AMOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.3945936.2" Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. --BOUNDARY.3945936.2 Content-Type: text/plain Well, heres a tutorial I wrote a while ago and placed in Extreme AMOS. I thought I would "Christen the ice" on this subject. The attachments are at the bottom, in UUxT format. NOTE that this tutorial, along with others, can be found on my FTP site in /pub/amos/docs/tutorial/ when you log into mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org as anonymous. I hope others who place tutorials here, place it in the drawer (with examples) and upload it to my FTP site. Thanks. Mush AMOS Tutorial - IFF Fonts ------------------------- Part 1 - What is an IFF font? Part 2 - How does it work Part 3 - Creating an example font Part 4 - Creating your own fonts This tutorial has been typed out by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett, of Mushroom PD (C) March 1996. All rights reserved. If you wish to use this article in any other disk magazine, you must first get my permission. I must also receive a FULL copy of the magazine that it appears in. If you would like to get in touch with me about Extreme AMOS, Mushroom PD or any other AMOS related matter, you can get in touch with me at the below address. If you decide to telephone, please do it after 7pm, when I am not as busy, and no later than 11pm, after all, we all need our beauty sleep! The address is : Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett 75 North Perry Street Elizabethtown PA 17022-1146 USA Telephone (717) 367 6210 E-Mail: mushypd@redrose.net Worlds largest AMOS Homepages: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk FTP Site: mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org Calls welcome, so long as theyre not at 4am!! ;) All letters sent to me will be replied to as soon as possible. As well as this tutorial, there are other tutorials available : Creating AMOS Graphic Equalizers Creating Simple Databases Creating an AMOS Tracker demo Identifying different music formats in AMOS (62K!) If you would like any of the above tutorials, then you can send me an SAE and a disk. If you fill the disk full of your own AMOS games and utilitys, either compiled or in source code for inclusion in the library, then you need not include the SAE, as I will send you the stuff back. Alternatively, you can exchange a disk of your own programs for a Mushroom disk in the library. Remember to state the Mushroom disk number when ordering. Have you written any AMOS tutorials which you would like included in Extreme AMOS? They can be of any kind of subject, as long as it is AMOS. It could be anything from the use of a simple command, right through to a large programming diary you have completed. The address to send all of your ASCII files, along with any source code that accompany's the tutorial, is listed above. You will receive a FREE copy of the first issue that your tutorial appears in. PART 1 ~~~~~~ What is an IFF font ? I daresay you have loaded and played a game, where there is a nice attractive font that appears on the screen, to display either the instructions or maybe the hi-scores. With a hi-score table, there are endless possibilities for the names that you enter into it. One way of doing this, is to read a font stored on the disk, but displaying these can be a bit slow, so the need for an IFF font is called. A IFF font is a screen full of letters and numbers, that can be called at any time from within the program, to be displayed anywhere on any screen. These characters are all coloured in the same style as the rest, to classify the screen as an IFF font screen. This screen is then packed, and is saved to the disk along with the program. IFF fonts use a lot less space than if you just had lot's of screens with the IFF font displayed as instructions, or everything placed in a sprite bank to be displayed later on. There are 2 kinds of IFF font, the first being a simple "Square" layout, where each of the characters has the same height and width. These are the easiest kinds of font to work with. The second kind of font is a non-proportional font, in which the width or height of the font can change with each of the characters. These fonts take a little more time to prepare, but still look just as good. Fonts can range from simple 3 or 4 pixel squared images, right through to a full screen in size. The number of possibilities that can be acheived from the font is endless. PART 2 ~~~~~~ How does an IFF font work ? An IFF font is really very simple to use, in any kind of program. The routines which I have supplied you will demonstrate how easy it is to install a font into your program. An IFF font is read from a grid in memory. Each grid space can either be a "Square" font, or each piece can vary in size. The program creates an array with all the X and Y coordinates for each of the possible pieces, which is called by the other routines. There is also another part to the array which contains the width of all the different characters available, which is more usefull when the font is non-proportional. Let me try and give you an example. Let's say that you decided to use an array called FONT. The program would create 5 offsets from that array, FONTX, FONTY, FONTXX, FONTYY, AND FONTS. FONTX and FONTY represent the top left hand coordinates of the top of the character in the list. FONTXX and FONTYY hold the bottom right-hand coordinates for the character. FONTS hold the width (in pixels) of the character just defined. Another way of doing this, is to eliminate FONTS completely, and use the algorythym FONTXX-FONTX, but the way I have described is easier to follow. The next step, is to create a string of all the available characters in your font. Let's say "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ". Now, when the INSTR command is used against the letter we are looking for, it will return with the number inside the string. Say you were looking for the letter "D", then INSTR would return with 4. So, it would use the SCREEN COPY FONTX(4),FONTY(4),FONTXX(4),FONTYY(4) To destination.. and paste the letter "D" into place. It is highly important that the string containing all the letters is typed in the same way the information is entered into the array, otherwise the letters will come out different than what you have requested. The routines I have developed, have been coded to allow you, the user, to apply as little AMOS knowledge as possible. All you have to do, is assign the POSX and POSY graphics coordinates on the screen, for where you want the text to go, and the string you wish printed. If you decide to use the centring routines, then the POSX coordinate is not needed, as the program will automatically work out the position for you. All the routines in ALL my fonts use the same kind of parameters for different functions. Some of the routines have scrollers, and centering routines, which can easily be called in your programs. The variables I tend to use the most are : TEX$ - The string to be drawn on the screen POSX - The X coordinate of the destination of the font POSY - The Y coordinate of the destination of the font SC$ - The text which is to be scrolled across the screen NUM - The character being drawn, according to the array _SCREEN - The screen number to be drawn on I have eliminated the need to add loads of parameters onto a procedure call, saving space in the text buffer, so the program runs off the CURRENT settings of all the variables called. It is important that you make these values GLOBAL, or SHARED, otherwise they will be read as 0 by the routine. Any other variables are called from within the routine, and are not really all that important. If centering the piece of text, then you only need assign the POSY value with the true number, and the TEX$ string to be displayed. _SCREEN does not need to be changed more than once unless you are working on a different screen number. If using the scroller, you can determine how you would like to leave the routine. I usually place a small routine in the code which will allow me to leave the routine if the mouse button is pressed, and I have taken this out of some of the examples. Remember, CTRL+C will break you out of the program, and back to the editor. If you define the statements as global values, you can also maintain the values of the last drawing, which is handy when on an options screen for example. You could have "Quit? (Y/N)", and then when the key is pressed, you could recall the draw routine and print the character, before moving onto the next piece of text. One thing which I like about IFF fonts, is the fact that they can be used in any screen mode, providing the font has enough colours, and does not contain more than the desired screen resolution. This means that you can fit more text onto a line if you go into hi-res mode, or less, more detailed characters on the screen if you decide to opt for a lower resolution. Because the program uses SCREEN COPY, the results it produces are almost instantaneously, especially if there is not much to copy. If the font is small and are quite a few lines to be done, then it may take a couple of seconds, but it is even faster when compiled. The only drawback, is that you can't merge the font onto an already-drawn background, as it copy's the black bits from the font screen, over to the destination screen. In order to get round that problem, you will need to use GET BOB, and PASTE BOB, which is slower to use than SCREEN COPY. Part 3 ~~~~~~ How to create an example font that works OK then, I am now going to create a simple program, which will first create a non-proportianate font. Also included, is a scroll routine, which when activated, will scroll a piece of text across the screen using that IFF font. Load and run EXAMPLE_01.AMOS As you can see, the font scrolls across the screen. If the screen was not in DOUBLE BUFFER mode, it would flicker and jump quite badly. You can also see all the DATA statements, which make up this kind of font. Now, I think it is time for a proportional font. Load and run EXAMPLE_02.AMOS This is a nice 16 colour font, which means that it can also be used on a hires screen, with some good results. Look at the DATA statements, and see how I built up the size array, using the TEMPA and TEMPB arrays alongside it. Again, I have chosen to use the scroller routine. Now, I think it is about time I demonstrated how simple it is to use the _CEN and _DRAW routines from within a font. The next example uses the same font as in example 2, but will centre a few words. If you look at the listing in which you need to actually perform the task, you will see that you only need to assign 2 values before actually running - The text string to be printed, and the vertical position of the text. The draw routine is called from within the centering routine, but you can actually move this around, and call it seperate of the routine. Load and run EXAMPLE_03.AMOS See, dead simple. The hardest part of the entire thing, is defining the font to create. Once the routines are installed, it is so easy to use, in all kinds of screenmodes. This font actually works in Hires, and so does the first example. Part 4 ~~~~~~ How to create your own IFF fonts! Hmm, you do need a paint package to do this, although I am sure that there is a program somewhere in the library that will actually make the data statements for you. If not, I shall get onto making one very soon. First of all, you will need to place all of the possible characters onto a single screen, without them lapping over each other's boundary's, otherwise you will get ghosted letters appearing on the screen. It is best that you use a single screen, to any size you need, as you would need to create another element in the font arrays in order to determine which screen you are going to copy from. Now you will need to go into personal paint, or any other paint package that you have, which will allow you to magnify the picture, and show the X and Y coordinates of the screen. Now, write down a list of all the possible characters available, and get the coordinates by following these instructions : Proportional fonts ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Simply write down each horizontal coordinate of each letter, by letting the crosshairs of the mouse overlap onto the first pixel on the top, and the left-hand side of the letter. Write down the coordinates. Now do the same for the bottom right of the character, but ensure that the crosshairs are NOT overlapping onto any of the pixels. You must also write down the 4 coordinates for all the characters on the left hand side of the screen, and use an array similar to what I used, with the across number of letters going across, and the down going down in the loop. Also make a note of the width of the character in pixels, to be used instead of NINES() Non-Proportional fonts ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unlike the above, you must write down all 4 coordinates for each letter, and also the width (in pixels) of each letter, so the program can add the space accordingley. Take the coordinates using the same method as above, and draw a line from the left hand side of the char, to the right, and the screen should tell you how many pixels it takes (before you let go of the mouse). Pressing UNDO should remove the line, unless you clicked on something else first. Once you have all of your coordinates, you can place them into DATA statements like I did, spacing them out, with each letter being on one line during testing, to iron out any small bugs that you may have overlooked. When you know it is working correctly, you can then reduce the number of lines. Well, I think that just about covers it. As you know, every month I give away new IFF font programs, so you should never be short of an IFF font to use in your own programs. Most of the IFF fonts were drawn by people other than myself, yet the program was written by me, so remember that in your credits should you decide to use any of my routines. If you want to know more about any other AMOS subject, then why not drop me a line at the above address. I also have other tutorials available (all with source) which cover a whole array of different subjects : Graphic Equalizers Tracker Tutorial Prt. 1 Tracker Tutorial Prt. 2 Databases Prt. 1 Databases Prt. 2 IFF Fonts You can get any of these tutorials by sending an SAE and a disk, or 4 first class stamps, to me at the address above. If you are sending a disk, then why not fill it with some AMOS PD so I can place it in the library. All letters will be replied to as soon as possible. If you would like to contribute any articles to Extreme AMOS, then include them on the disk as well. Remember, any articles I use, you will receive a copy of the first issue they appear in. I would prefer it if you sent AMOS articles, but other things such as reviews etc. are welcome. [Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett] EOF -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! 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M8`#NW__50`",7_0`CM]?U6``O%_WU6``D\]7Q6``KY__50#HW[]^X`#[S_'^% MX`#.W__X8`#L7[\'8`#@'_QT(`#OW_@'X`#YW?_](`"OR_O_(`".7:`ZH`#_[ /P`#_P`#^P`"_P`"(````$ `` end size 11490 --BOUNDARY.3945936.2-- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 09:27:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 09:27:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00181 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:27:38 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06746 for amos-out; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06740 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:32:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ganymede.eclipse.co.uk (ganymede.eclipse.co.uk [195.188.32.4]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14072 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p023.5399-1.routers.ispc.net ([195.188.105.43]) by ganymede.eclipse.co.uk (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with ESMTP id AAA3186 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:32:50 +0100 From: "tobes" Organization: Private User Date: 8 Apr 98 10:34:09 +0000 Subject: Ball bounce !!!! Message-Id: <352B52A0.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <352B50C5.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: Newbie question I'm afraid. Just getting into the whole Amos thing once more, and my first project, like many others I'm sure, is a Breakout clone. But I have a wee problem! I have the Ball's Bob coords as x,y, and its direction as XX,YY. When ever the Bob hits a wall, or a brick, the XX,YY are simply reversed. But I stumped when it comes to the bob hitting either the side or the top of a brick. eg- XX=1 YY=1 . \ \ *O* ___________ | | | | ...would result in YY being reversed to -1, yes? But what about- XX=1 YY=1 . ______ \ | *O* |____ | |_____ In both examples, the ball comes from the same direction, so how can I determine wether it needs to bounce up (as in the first ex), or continue down (as in the second)? I've read the manual on Hot Spots, but this seems to be more /positioning/ than /detection/. Any help very much appreciated. -- ____________________________________ (o _ _ o) | ( )_ __( )_ ___ ___ | | | _) ) ) _ ) __) | | | || | | | | _|__ | | | (___)__)___)___)___)@eclipse.co.uk | (o__________________________________o) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 06:31:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 06:31:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12127 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:31:24 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10697 for amos-out; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10694 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA08891 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:31:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "M. Cox" Message-Id: <199804091031.GAA08891@access1.digex.net> Status: RO X-Status: >From aag@acay.com.au Wed Apr 8 08:43:53 1998 X-Received: from chris.acay.com.au (chris.acay.com.au [203.27.214.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07939 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:43:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from acay.com.au (mother@acay027213113.acay.com.au [203.27.213.113]) by chris.acay.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA31980 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:45:32 +1000 From: Australian Amiga Gazette Reply-To: aag@acay.com.au To: AoD Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:59:19 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Australian Amiga Gazette Subject: Re: Welcome to the AMOS Mailing List! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain ReSent-Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:31:01 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: On 28-Mar-98, AoD wrote: Re> Welcome to the AMOS Mailing List! Thank you all, and hello from Australia. I am the editor of "Australian Amiga Gazette" the only Amiga magazine dedicated to Amiga users downunder. I would like to produce a series of Amos tutorials for our readers. Even those Amos is looked down apon by many misinformed programmers I for one use it offer to meet a specific need when no PD program can. If anyone would be interested in devoting the time each month to write a page for the magazine please contact me. I am also interested to hear about any projects you guys are working on, possibly write a review on it when completed. Thanks again AAG Editor Michael Burak Australian Amiga Gazette 42 Manning Street, Kingswood NSW 2747, Australia Ph: (02) 4736-8055 Email: aag@acay.com.au Web: www.acay.com.au/~aag From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 15:10:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 15:10:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26152 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:10:11 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03159 for amos-out; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:09:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03151 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19402 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from (agasinc.demon.co.uk) [193.237.4.98] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yNLkn-0005Ep-00; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:08:50 +0100 From: Andy Gibson To: Amos List Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:59:52 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: DbPAL mode :( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hiya all, Can anyone tell me if they manage to get Amos (or any compiled jobbies) to display on a DbPal display? I'm sick of having to switch between my monitor display (MULTISCAN:PRODUCTIVITY) to the video output via the TV Amazing box. I have tried ModePro to promote a few Apps and games which work fine, but promoting Amos via this fine util seems to do nothing at all :( Can anyone help? Also, will it ever be true that Amos Interpreter will run under intuition and be displayed on any screenmode? Eh Pietro? :-) Oh yeah, I have started my web pages and uploaded the first few pages. Feel free to have a look and tell me what ya think so far. I'd especially like to hear if they display fine on your system/browser. Be it Amiga, MAC or PC. If anyone wants me to add a link to their site, please send me a banner and I'll gladly add it to the Links page (when it's ready :) TIA. Andy Gibson -- Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions (aka SKiDZ/A51) email: andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk web : http://www.agasinc.demon.co.uk (site still under construction, but a few pages are now ready) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 13:07:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 13:07:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17919 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:07:23 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA22090 for amos-out; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22087 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23663 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07869 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:07:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA29189 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:06:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA04683 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:06:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:06:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Subject: Tutorial Series as a List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: hey guys, maybe we should all chip in and write Micheal's Amos tutorials together, I think it'd be a great project for the list, newbies can write in asking what they want to know, and the old pros can answer and suggest what they think it is most important to know, what do you guys think? Thanks, Scott Matott sXe From kaxsom@comsoltx.com Thu Apr 9 12:52:50 1998 >From kaxsom@comsoltx.com Thu Apr 9 12:52:50 1998 Received: from [208.201.27.131] ([208.201.27.131]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13197 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:52:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.comsoltx.com by [208.201.27.131] via smtpd (for pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) with SMTP; 9 Apr 1998 17:00:11 UT Received: by mail.comsoltx.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:55:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Ken Axsom To: "'M. Cox'" Subject: projects us guys are working on Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:55:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Re> Welcome to the AMOS Mailing List! > > > Thank you all, and hello from Australia. > > I am the editor of "Australian Amiga Gazette" the only Amiga magazine > dedicated to Amiga users downunder. > > I would like to produce a series of Amos tutorials for our readers. > Even those Amos is looked down apon by many misinformed > programmers I for one use it offer to meet a specific need when > no PD program can. > > If anyone would be interested in devoting the time each month > to write a page for the magazine please contact me. > > I am also interested to hear about any projects you guys > are working on, possibly write a review on it when completed. > > Thanks again > > AAG Editor > Michael Burak Hi Michael, I'm making a graphic adventure in the same format as Kings Quest/Space Quest/Quest for Glory. So far, I have a joystick controlled character that can walk around objects i.e. trees, rocks, buildings, etc, collision detection, water depth detection, screen boundaries, and a parser routine. Next additions: Swimming ( I should've done this once I had the character walking in water ) & Map routines. The programming is no problem. The graphic editting is even easier; it just takes a freakin' long time. Depending on how many foreground objects that a screen has, it can take a good 6 hours to clean them up and generate screen data. If you'd like to see a screen shot, let me know. I'm trying to put together a 12 screen demo with a few puzzles to solve. It'll have nothing to do with my storyline; just to see how everything runs together. Feel free to e-mail me anytime, Ken From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 19:19:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 19:19:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09969 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:19:15 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21809 for amos-out; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21806 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.globalserve.net (smtp2.globalserve.net [209.90.128.7]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03873 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:58:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from globalserve.net (@dialin12.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.12]) by smtp2.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA06748 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:57:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199804092257.RAA06748@smtp2.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:58:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: AMOS List Subject: Old/New GUI lib problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Okay... I noticed that after installing the new version of the GUI library the commands in all my programs made with the old version got fooked up. Is the only way to restore them by re-installing the old version, exporting ASCII, and reimporting under new version? or is there and easier way of doing this? -Thanx in advance.. ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic -*Under Reconstruction*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress... I really should start accomplishing more geez... ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 22:28:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 9 22:28:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17755 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:28:07 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA27493 for amos-out; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:54:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27490 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au (mail.mel.aone.net.au [203.12.176.157]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07396 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magnet.com.au (d69-1.cpe.Sydney.aone.net.au [203.12.186.69]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA25417 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:54:46 +1000 (EST) From: Rod Whiteley Reply-To: rwhiteley@magnet.com.au To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:52:23 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy Subject: GUIExt queries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hi all, I have a couple of questions for which I hope there are some simple answers in regard the GUIExt 1.70 1. Is there a way of writing a listview that supports multiple selection of items (i.e., the ability to select many of the items on the list rather than just the one)? 2. The GUI Clone command looks great. To use it I imagine I'm going to have to open either a public screen, or a window on an open screen. 2 (i) How do I find a list of the Mode ID's for the available screens to specify in Gui Screen Open? 2 (ii) Is it then just a simple matter of using Gui clone 1,True to copy my current programmes to a public screen/window in an OS friendly way? Thanks in advance Rod Whiteley -- Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 10:31:54 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 10:31:54 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18256 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:31:53 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08193 for amos-out; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08190 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermes.clara.net (hermes.clara.net [195.8.69.6]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05870 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nsl (du-1125.claranet.co.uk [195.8.77.90]) by hermes.clara.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16852 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:14:47 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980410151457.00799a00@mail.clara.net> X-Sender: nsl@mail.clara.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:14:57 +0100 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Nathan Reynolds Subject: Can you help me in setting up a TCP stack? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: Seeing as someone on this list recommended UAE (which I took the time to install, and everybody else should - *WOW!*) and seeing as this list is for Amiga owners, I hope you can help me with this problem. I use a PC with Windows 95 for all my internet needs.It's not wonderful, but it works. Anyway, I've now got a virtual Amiga running on it, and I've managed to configure UAE so that it uses the internal modem. Everything is fine, as I managed to call a BBS from the emulated Amiga. Trouble is, AmiTCP is *evil* in comparison to Windows 95 with regards to setting it up for Internet usage. It's asking me lots of stuff which I've got no idea about. Can anybody give me help on setting up AmiTCP? I can retrieve some information from Win95, but I've got no idea if it's all that I need. If anybody can give me any information regarding the setup of AmiTCP (v4.0, that is), retrieving information about my internet connection or anything at all to do with this problem I would be *VERY* grateful (of course, this is all assuming that AmiTCP is the right software to use for a non-networked dial-up internet connection). The information I have managed to retrieve is as follows: * GENERAL: ----- User name: "nsl" ----- E-mail: "nsl@clara.co.uk" ----- IP address according to mIRC: "195.8.78.15" ----- E-mail when I do a whois on myself on IRC: either "du-1112@claranet.co.uk" or "du-1116@claranet.co.uk" (I suspect this means I have a dynamic IP address) * DIAL-UP NETWORKING: ** SERVER TYPE: *** TYPE OF DIAL-UP SERVER: ----- I'm using a "PPP dial-up server" *** ADVANCED OPTIONS: ----- I don't "Log on to network" ----- Software compression is enabled ----- It doesn't "Require encrypted password" *** ALLOWED NETWORK PROTOCOLS: ----- Network protocols "NetBEUI" and "IPX/SPX compatible" aren't allowed, "TCP/IP" is. **** TCP/IP SETTINGS: ----- I have a "Server assigned IP address" ----- Primary DNS: "195.8.69.7" ----- Secondary DNS: "195.8.69.12" ----- I don't have "Server assigned name server addresses" ----- Primary WINS: "0.0.0.0" ----- Secondary WINS: "0.0.0.0" ----- I'm using "IP header compression" ----- I "Use default gateway on remote network" * NETWORK PROPERTIES: ** DIAL-UP ADAPTER: ----- I use "IPX header compression" ** TCP/IP: *** IP ADDRESS: ----- I "obtain an IP address automatically" *** WINS CONFIGURATION: ----- I "use DHCP for WINS resolution" *** DNS CONFIGURATION: ----- DNS is disabled. * WINIPCFG ** HOST INFORMATION: ----- Host name is "NSL" ----- Node type is a "hybrid". ** ETHERNET ADAPTER INFORMATION: ----- Adapter address is 44-45-53-54-00-00" ----- IP address is "0.0.0.0" ----- Subnet mask is "0.0.0.0" ----- DHCP server is "255.255.255.255" The information I need to know is - domain name, destination address, netmask, default gateway IP address, IP addresses of the name servers, domain names to search. Oh, and if anybody else wants to know how to get past this problem (unlikely, but it might happen) I might be able to help with the information that I receive (please!) If anybody could recommend internet software that would also be helpful. Please give full instructions on how to get the software, as I'm an internet newbie, and I've never accessed Aminet before. I've figured out how to use e-mail, ftp, telnet, www, irc and usenet on Windows though. -- Brought to you DIRECT from the slightly disturbed mind of Nathan Reynolds. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 03:06:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 03:06:17 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05899 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:06:17 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA29652 for amos-out; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29649 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA15258 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 03:39:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from mail1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA147 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:43:19 -0600 Received: from ccMail by mail1.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 000140A8; Fri, 10 Apr 98 01:33:38 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:26:24 -0600 Message-ID: <000140A8.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: AMOS Bug???? To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: From the Block menu, select All Text. This highlights all the text in the current program. If you try to Store or Cut this highlighted text using either the menu items of keys you are given the message "What Block?" Manual selection of a block of text, all or partial, works fine with both menu items and keys. Am I right in saying this is a bug? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 14:41:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 14:41:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02680 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:41:07 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17451 for amos-out; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17448 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail0.tor.acc.ca (mail0.tor.acc.ca [204.92.54.110]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13856 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ican.net (ppp-176.m4-1.ssm.ican.net [206.248.78.176]) by mail0.tor.acc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA25956 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:44:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Cori Skagen Reply-To: cskagen@ican.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:44:19 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: none Subject: help needed in counting in 1/100 of a second MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, I want to know is it possible to make a timer in Amos that would display in 1/100's of a second? I know it can only be updated in 60th's(ntsc) but still the timer and Amcaf's clock commands are only in ticks (1/60th)(NTSC) ne1 have any ideas? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cori Skagen cskagen@ican.net Cori.Skagen@saultc.on.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 16:36:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 16:36:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25966 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:36:09 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21169 for amos-out; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21160 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24914 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p03-pigeon-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.72.3]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA29990 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:47:55 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 10 Apr 98 19:46:32 +0100 Subject: Level Editing Message-Id: <352E7717.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: I'm approaching the end of the programming of my game, The Turtleminator and now I've got to create loads and loads of levels.... This gets a bit boring for me after 20 or so levels so I've been getting other people to help (such as the GFX artist etc.) This has the further benefit of adding variety into the level designs as well. Anyway, its still going slow so I was wondering if there is anyone on the list who like to help a bit by designing a few levels. The game is a cannon fodder style. The levels are quite small (but are linked together) so it doesn't take that long to draw a single map. The level editor is not the easiest thing in the world to use but its not bad and anyway, all I really need is a basic level layout and baddies etc. put in. Anything that is too complicated such as switches, I can add in myself. Anyway, any help at all would be nice. E-mail me and I'll send you the game with the level editor. Please only ask if you do intend to try and make some levels because I don't want to give it out to everyone just yet. Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 21:08:46 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 10 21:08:46 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25179 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:08:45 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA28536 for amos-out; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA28533 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09169 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24838; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:47:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA01063; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:46:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA07573; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:46:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:46:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: tobes , Amos List Subject: Re: Ball bounce !!!! In-Reply-To: <352B52A0.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Tobes, The secret is to check for Horizontal and Vertical collisions seperately, so instead of looking to see if your ball hits a brick see if it hits the top/bottom of a brick and also as a seperate process see if it hits the left/right side of a brick if it hits vertical side flip just Y direstion if it hits horz side flip just X direction One way I can think of quickly to check for these two types of collisions seperately is to colour code the side of the bricks, and then check the colour next to your ball with Point(x,y) so make your brick like this 01111110 2 2 2 2 2 2 01111110 where the number reffers to the colour value at that point so hitting colour 2 would mean hitting a brick form the side hitting a colour one would mean hitting a brick on the top/bottom hitting 0 wouold be hitting a corner (flip both X and Y directions get the idea? Obviously you can use any colour values you want not just 0,1,2,3 and you can fill the brick in any colour you like, also to make solid colour bricks just make all these colour values have the same colour (ie all $fff for a white brick) anyway if I've lost you by now, just mail me and I'll try and put it into better words, till then happy programming! :) Thanks, Scott Matott sXe From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 02:09:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 02:09:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20520 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:09:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA29108 for amos-out; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29105 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA00272 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31485 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1998 05:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.88) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 11 Apr 1998 05:48:37 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 01:46:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: AMOS IRC Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Ive re-started my IRC server again, for those interested in going on it for a look around. Just load your IRC program and type /SERVER mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org 6667 If you have any problems, let me know, as its still experimental. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 08:24:43 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 08:24:43 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13364 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:24:42 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29737 for amos-out; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:57:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29734 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (vtn1.victoria.tc.ca [199.60.222.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26440 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uv334@localhost) by vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25208; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 04:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 04:52:02 -0700 (PDT) From: John Bintz X-Sender: uv334@vtn1 To: Cori Skagen cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: help needed in counting in 1/100 of a second In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Try this: HUND=(Timer*100)/60 It will be accurate, but won't grab every 100th, which is physically impossible for the Amiga. #@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@ John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca * @#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@# Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software! http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html *#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*# On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Cori Skagen wrote: > Hello, > > I want to know is it possible to make a timer in Amos that would display in > 1/100's of a second? I know it can only be updated in 60th's(ntsc) but still > > the timer and Amcaf's clock commands are only in ticks (1/60th)(NTSC) ne1 have > any ideas? > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Cori Skagen > > cskagen@ican.net > Cori.Skagen@saultc.on.ca > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 10:15:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 10:15:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17779 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:15:56 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29868 for amos-out; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29865 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermes.clara.net (hermes.clara.net [195.8.69.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28901 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nsl (du-1145.claranet.co.uk [195.8.77.110]) by hermes.clara.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14467; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:41:53 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "Nathan Reynolds" To: "John Bintz" , "Cori Skagen" Cc: Subject: RE: help needed in counting in 1/100 of a second Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:42:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bd654f$9f9f9760$6e4d08c3@nsl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Actually, it isn't impossible. You can use the scan line position to help you. Just use this code: TIME=Timer*2 If Y Beam<=(Display Height/2) Then Inc TIME TIME will know be your time in 1/100ths of a second. This is assuming that you have a command called Y Beam, otherwise substitute it for your scan line position reading command. (oh, oops, minor mistake. This will count in 1/120ths of a second on NTSC modes - you'll just have to figure out the math yourself - I've had no sleep and my brain's about to shut down...) > -----Original Message----- > From: John Bintz [mailto:uv334@victoria.tc.ca] > Sent: 11 April 1998 12:52 > To: Cori Skagen > Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net > Subject: Re: help needed in counting in 1/100 of a second > > > Try this: HUND=(Timer*100)/60 It will be accurate, but won't grab every > 100th, which is physically impossible for the Amiga. > > #@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@ > John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca * > @#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@# > Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software! > http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html > *#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*# > > On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Cori Skagen wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I want to know is it possible to make a timer in Amos that > would display in > > 1/100's of a second? I know it can only be updated in > 60th's(ntsc) but still > > > > the timer and Amcaf's clock commands are only in ticks > (1/60th)(NTSC) ne1 have > > any ideas? > > > > > > -- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Cori Skagen > > > > cskagen@ican.net > > Cori.Skagen@saultc.on.ca > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 06:03:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 06:03:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19334 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 06:03:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA29669 for amos-out; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29666 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmp02.wxs.nl (mmp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12499 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.42.116]) by mmp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with SMTP id AAAC1B; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:57:56 +0200 From: joop de jong Reply-To: joopdejong@wxs.nl To: amos-list@access.digex.net CC: andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:57:32 cst-2 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Joop, Marian, Mark, Bart Subject: Re: DbPAL mode :( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 09-apr-98 Andy Gibson wrote: >Can anyone tell me if they manage to get Amos (or any compiled >jobbies) to display on a DbPal display? As far as I know it's impossible. >I'm sick of having to switch between my monitor display >(MULTISCAN:PRODUCTIVITY) to the video output via the TV Amazing box. >I have tried ModePro to promote a few Apps and games which work fine, >but promoting Amos via this fine util seems to do nothing at all :( The screen you see isn't known to intuition so it cannot be promoted. It's made by directly writing to the gfx registers :(. >Can anyone help? >Also, will it ever be true that Amos Interpreter will run under >intuition and be displayed on any screenmode? Eh Pietro? :-) It would be great if that's going to be the case. I'd love to see the AMOS editor on a multiscan screen :) >Oh yeah, I have started my web pages and uploaded the first few pages. >Feel free to have a look and tell me what ya think so far. I'd >especially like to hear if they display fine on your system/browser. >Be it Amiga, MAC or PC. It works with IBrowse(but you allready knew that). The page looks great. Nice texture on the background, good contrast bewteen background and text. Mark de Jong email : joopdejong@wxs.nl From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 16:24:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 16:24:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10395 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:24:27 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03554 for amos-out; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03551 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermes.clara.net (hermes.clara.net [195.8.69.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09726 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nsl (du-637.claranet.co.uk [195.8.75.165]) by hermes.clara.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA03982 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:10:31 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "Nathan Reynolds" To: "AMOS list" Subject: Re: Can you help me in setting up a TCP stack? Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:10:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bd6585$ea6fe7a0$a54b08c3@nsl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Well, thanks to everyone who responded. It seems that Miami is the software to use, as everybody recommended it, so I installed it. Sheesh, it was almost *too* easy... Hopefully I'll be sending Amiga generated e-mails soon... -- Brought to you DIRECT from the slightly disturbed mind of Nathan Reynolds. IRC: Shakester, Shaykstur. ICQ UIN: 10356180. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 17:00:45 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 17:00:44 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13986 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:00:44 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03575 for amos-out; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03572 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA27237 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (204.186.168.64) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:24:08 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: help needed in counting in 1/100 of a second Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:41:17 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > I want to know is it possible to make a timer in Amos that would > display in 1/100's of a second? I know it can only be updated in > 60th's(ntsc) but still the timer and Amcaf's clock commands are only > in ticks (1/60th)(NTSC) ne1 have any ideas? Forget about Vbl syncing as it limits you to 50 or 60 cps as you have pointed out. Check into the CIA timer, TOD clock, etc. The CIA timer would probably be your best bet. I'm not sure what the default is for Timer A/B, but it seems likely it's around a 1,000 clicks per second or higher. You'll need to perform some tests. If I have some spare time I can check into making a little timer for you, but I'm damn busy at the moment so just take a look around for info on the CIA, TOD, Timer.device, etc. Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 19:03:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 11 19:03:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23030 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:03:11 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA05280 for amos-out; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05277 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06712 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p49-gull-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.64.229]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA6257 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:32:09 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 11 Apr 98 22:32:05 +0100 Subject: Fast RAM Message-Id: <352FEF65.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: I've heard people talking about routines to get sounds from FAST ram or even Bobs from fast ram (or both). Can anyone who has these sort of routines please send me them? :) Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 12 03:04:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 12 03:04:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA27655 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:04:02 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA07298 for amos-out; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07295 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA24414 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 03:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21428 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1998 07:26:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp12-22.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.86) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 12 Apr 1998 07:26:10 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00pnk; Sun, 12 Apr 98 02:44:05 GMT Message-Id: <9804120244.AA00pnj@mushypd.desupernet.net> Reply-To: Mushroom PD Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:44:04 X-Mailer: MPDMailpostV2b by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpostV2b multi-personell mailer program X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer X-Format: 97/289=34827171+5439P From: Mushroom PD (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: MPD Announcement: AMOS/C64 IRC Server opened! Status: O X-Status: I have re-started my IRC server on my system once more, which the public are now invited to connect to, and talk to other AMOS/C64 users around the world. Simply connect your IRC client to server mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org or port 6667 and talk to other users on channel's #AMOS or #C64. To get a list of all the channels currently running on the server, simply type /LIST in your IRC client for it to generate a list of active channels. If you have any questions or problems with the server, feel free to send me an email at mushypd@redrose.net where i shall answer your questions/queries as best I can. For those people waiting for the latest Mushroom PD report, please be patient for a little longer, as ive been having system problems and working on so many different things, I havent had the time to get to work on it. I can tell you that there is a LOT of information in it, so you may want to read it when it arrives. I'll also be telling you of a top AMOS coder who has recently shot to world stardom, returning to update some of their classic games! Keep tuned! Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 12 02:03:46 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 12 02:03:46 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28884 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:03:45 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA07148 for amos-out; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07145 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA07341 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9455 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1998 05:52:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.86) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 12 Apr 1998 05:52:40 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:52:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: AMOS Irc Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: It would seem that DynDNS had a couple of problems last night, so noone could get on the irc server. Its working right now, so why not pop on for a look, and see who else is there. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 12 22:17:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 12 22:17:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19084 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 22:17:24 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA15260 for amos-out; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15257 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA28944 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab1011421; 13 Apr 98 1:58 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0044z; Sun, 12 Apr 98 17:03:10 GMT Date: Sun, 12 Apr 98 17:03:10 GMT Message-Id: <9804121703.AA0044u@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <2624b4cd.u10t12e.ad640-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <352FEF65.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> (from "Alastair Murray" ) (at 11 Apr 98 22:32:05 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: malcolm.murray@virgin.net Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Fast RAM Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Alastair, > I've heard people talking about routines to get sounds from FAST ram > or even Bobs from fast ram (or both). > Can anyone who has these sort of routines please send me them? :) Heh, that's me again. Ok, I have fully working samples from fast mem, so compile your samples as iff files if I remember, and create a list of them, then run the "encoding" thingie, and then the playback routine later. I'll dig them up when I get a chance l8r. Bobs from fast ? Errr, dunno. cyagain. _ _ _ _ _ _ | "Would you like a Jellybaby ?" - Romana |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "Where did you get those from ?" - Doctor |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | "The same place that you do, your pocket." | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 12 20:08:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 12 20:08:00 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01303 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:08:00 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14716 for amos-out; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:28:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14713 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03047 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:27:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p34-lapwing-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.67.154]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA17030 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:27:50 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 13 Apr 98 00:58:27 +0100 Subject: GUI Bits Message-Id: <35316333.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: A couple of questions. I've found out that the GUI resizes itself if someone is using a different font. e.g. on mine with Topaz 8, I have a window to fill up a 640x220 screen. However, on someone else's with a different font, the window is smaller and looks a bit weird. If I do GUI Sensitive Off, am I right in thinking this would solve the problem and use Topaz 8 for all fonts? Also, when using a scroller gadget which looks fine on mine (I use MCP to change to xen gadgets) someone else cannot see the inside bit of the bar at all (its the same colour as the rest of it). This seems to me to be something wrong with his setup. Is this true? Is there any way around it? Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 12 21:03:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 12 21:03:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28502 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:03:21 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14780 for amos-out; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14777 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oznet07.ozemail.com.au (oznet07.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.122]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29130 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:45:18 -0400 (EDT) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per1-6.space.net.au [203.38.10.248]) by oznet07.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01109 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:45:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35316009.69F7@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:44:57 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Machine code in Amos Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi all, I`d like to add some machine code stuff to Amos specifically fast scaling and fast polygons, but I have no idea how to write to a currently opened Amos screen. Where can I find this stuff out, like the screen address, the memory layout, how to plot a pixel etc? I want to do it like this. A) set the Dregs to point to the screen and set up the function inside my machine code prog B) call the machine code prog C) reset the Dregs. I don`t want to write an extension. Can any one offer any help? Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 13 01:05:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 13 01:05:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA14659 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 01:05:12 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA15655 for amos-out; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 01:19:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA15652 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 01:19:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA02203 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 01:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18905 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1998 05:21:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp12-36.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.100) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 13 Apr 1998 05:21:26 -0000 Received: by mushypdredrose.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00qsy; Mon, 13 Apr 98 00:57:54 GMT Message-Id: <9804130057.AA00qsx@mushypdredrose.net> Reply-To: Mushroom PD Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:57:53 X-Mailer: MPDMailpostV2b by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpostV2b multi-personell mailer program X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer X-Format: 98/290=46574195+5737P From: Mushroom PD (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: MPD Announcement: GUI Extension V1.70 Finally Completed!! Status: O X-Status: GUI Extension V1.70 Finally completed! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- After all the problems and such i had been experiencing with my machine, the GUI Extension V1.70 has finally been completed. The docs are totally finished, and several interesting example programs have been added to the archive. The archive is 272K (LZX Archive) and can be obtained from me directly by sending an email to mushypd@redrose.net The library is also available for download directly from my homepages at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk **************** *IMPORTANT NOTE* **************** The library has been changed within this archive, from the one in the previous V1.70 release. Whilst writing the examples, Pietro fized a couple of bugs that occured, and also added a few new commands (which are in the docs). Please save your old programs as ASCII before installing the newer lib, and there is no need to re-convert GUI banks made with the previous V1.70 release. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 15 13:44:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 15 13:44:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04669 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:44:11 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA21923 for amos-out; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21920 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20819 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc15.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.15]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id SAA06800 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:27:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1978 01:19:16 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Mousepointer & Fading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello. I have a question that have been bugging me for some days now: When i fade a screen, the pointer get's faded with the screen, What do i do to get the pointer to not be faded with the background??? Please help me with this one!!! Morten Bolstad From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 13 12:12:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 13 12:12:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16454 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:12:52 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20592 for amos-out; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20589 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-04-166.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.128.166]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06137 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp12-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.61]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA01065 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:01:24 -0500 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:00:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: GUI 1.70 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Mush, I was just all over your pages and in your FTP newamos. I didn't find the gui 1.70 new release anywhere. Can you mail it off or tell me where on your pages it's located? How about a `new this week' page on your site? Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 14 17:17:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 14 17:17:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06048 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:17:23 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14045 for amos-out; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14041 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05061 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from (agasinc.demon.co.uk) [193.237.4.98] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yPACE-0002rV-00; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:12:39 +0100 From: Andy Gibson To: Alan Scott , Paul Jones , Pam Jones , Neil Henderson , Anthony Sherratt , Alan CC: Phil Wilkinson , Amos List Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:46:53 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: updated web pages... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone reading... Just a quick note to tell you that I have updated my web pages a bit today and made some improvements. Please check them out (should be available by Tues night) and let me know if you feel anything needs changing. Please look at the links page also. Note that the AREA 51 site is not ready, so can any of the A51 guys get to work on at least an index page? If anyone wants a link added, please send me a banner and your URL. Speak to you soon.... -- Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions (aka SKiDZ/A51) email: andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk web : http://www.agasinc.demon.co.uk From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 14 15:27:30 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 14 15:27:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08991 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:27:29 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09920 for amos-out; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09917 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us [204.194.39.250]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25353 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (fer007@localhost) by fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA02883 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:42:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:42:17 -0400 (EDT) From: fernando Bartra To: AMOS Subject: amos to pc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Be nice to find a amos-kind fr pc to make some money that then you can spend on the amiga. Well, I just found this great pc prgram, authorware by macromedia(www.macromedia.com), is kinda lie visual basic,but you could do a simple game like an interactive movie-book in it. Whats good is that is easier to use than amos, and it imports all kinds of files, like avi and mpeg anims, digital video and sound, etc. So you could even render an anmation in your amiga, convert to mpeg, then use it in a pc game!!!! wolfpack From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 19:42:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 19:42:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08849 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:42:35 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA14628 for amos-out; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14625 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26351 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by riverside.mr.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA21734 at Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:25:45 -0500 (CDT) SMTP "HELO" = students.nwc.edu But _really_ from [199.86.79.253] SMTP "MAIL FROM" = MPNess@eagle.nwc.edu SMTP "RCPT TO" = Received: from NW-FS-3/SpoolDir by students.nwc.edu (Mercury 1.41); 16 Apr 98 17:26:00 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by NW-FS-3 (Mercury 1.40); 15 Apr 98 09:16:36 -0600 From: "Michael Paul Ness" Organization: Northwestern College To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:16:30 -600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Slow Bobs and Turbo Plus Priority: normal Message-ID: Status: O X-Status: Ok, I actually have 2 questions: 1. Is there anyway to speed up the Bob drawing process. I have about 12-20 Bobs on screen at once and the time to complete my loop is astonishingly slow for so few Bobs. Is there any way to speed up the Bob drawing process of AMOS. BTW the bobs are only about 16x16. 2. I would like to know the syntax of the commands in the Turbo Plus extension. I have figured out some of the basic ones from the demo docs (which simply lists the commands but not their syntax) but I would like to use the other commands too. Can anyone help me by sending me the syntax of the commands? Who is developing Turbo anyway? I can't ever seem to get a hold of the author to register it. Thanx, Mike From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 15 07:50:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 15 07:50:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19778 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:50:36 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA05127 for amos-out; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05124 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18721 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:38:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm2-18.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm2-18.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.146]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA14062 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:37:18 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 15 Apr 98 13:33:33 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: MPD Announcement: GUI Extension V1.70 Finally Completed!! To: "Mushroom PD" In-Reply-To: <9804130057.AA00qsx@mushypdredrose.net> Message-ID: <830.409T1670T8133627@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) wrote: >GUI Extension V1.70 Finally completed! >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >The library is also available for download directly from my >homepages at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Where?? I've been over that page several times and couldn't find a trace of it. Should be in the extensionslist I reckon but no. --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 15 15:32:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 15 15:32:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18983 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:32:20 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA27706 for amos-out; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27703 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22617 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p20-parrot-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.71.80]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA12091 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:52:33 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 15 Apr 98 16:56:27 +0100 Subject: Tool Types Message-Id: <3534E6BB.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: Using AMCAF I can read the tool types for an icon. Is there any way through AMOS to CHANGE an icon's tool types? Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 15 19:25:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 15 19:25:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14640 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:25:11 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA20366 for amos-out; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20363 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15890 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p31-partridge-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.71.151]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA5480; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:00:34 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 15 Apr 98 23:00:21 +0100 Subject: Re: Mousepointer & Fading Message-Id: <35353C05.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: MortenBolstad, amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > When i fade a screen, the pointer get's faded with the screen, > What do i do to get the pointer to not be faded with the background??? The mouse pointer uses colours 17,18,19 (unless you've made your own) and so you'll have to fade all colours except them manually using Fade 4,0,0,0,0, etc. sort of thing. If the picture you are fading uses those colours then you're in trouble. :) -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 00:14:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 00:14:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09327 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:14:16 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA26160 for amos-out; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26157 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA29277 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4848 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1998 04:12:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp12-3.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.67) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 16 Apr 1998 04:12:37 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00rkv; Thu, 16 Apr 98 00:09:03 GMT Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 00:09:03 GMT Message-Id: <9804160009.AA00rku@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: nospam.dbrowder@bellsouth.net (David Browder) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: [AMOSList] Need a Program to UNCOMPILE a compile amos program Status: O X-Status: I am looking for a program to DECOMPILE a program I compiled with amos 5 years ago. I have lost the source code and neet to make a minor change to the program ... Does such a program exist . Please reply via this newsgroup or remove the ns in front of my email address to reply. -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 00:28:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 00:28:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25788 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:28:22 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA26165 for amos-out; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26162 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13438 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4862 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1998 04:12:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp12-3.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.67) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 16 Apr 1998 04:12:38 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00rl0; Thu, 16 Apr 98 00:09:29 GMT Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 00:09:29 GMT Message-Id: <9804160009.AA00rkz@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: "Roy Antonsen" (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] MPD Announcement: GUI Extension V1.70 Finally Completed!! Status: O X-Status: On 13-Apr-98 14:09:05, Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) wrote: >GUI Extension V1.70 Finally completed! >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > The library is also available for download directly from my >homepages at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk I couldn't find it? Where am I going wrong? Roy Antonsen aka // A1200T/10MB/50MHz - roantons@c2i.net KillJoy/BDZ. \x/ THOR 2.5a - Current time: 13-Apr-98 19:32:07 -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 15 17:54:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 15 17:54:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04379 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:54:03 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA18474 for amos-out; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18471 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20766 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.42.155]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id AAA50F3; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:38:08 +0200 From: joop de jong Reply-To: joopdejong@wxs.nl To: nsl@clara.co.uk, uv334@victoria.tc.ca, cskagen@ican.net CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:35:11 cst-2 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Joop, Marian, Mark, Bart Subject: Re: counting 100 times per second MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I want to know is it possible to make a timer in Amos >>> that would display in 1/100's of a second? I know it >>> can only be updated in 60th's(ntsc) but still >>> the timer and Amcaf's clock commands are only in ticks >>> (1/60th)(NTSC) ne1 have any ideas? >> >> Try this: HUND=(Timer*100)/60 It will be accurate, but won't grab every >> 100th, which is physically impossible for the Amiga. > > Actually, it isn't impossible. You can use the scan line position to help you. > Just use this code: > > TIME=Timer*2 > If Y Beam<=(Display Height/2) Then Inc TIME > > TIME will know be your time in 1/100ths of a second. This is assuming that > you have a command called Y Beam, otherwise substitute it for your scan line > position reading command. > > (oh, oops, minor mistake. This will count in 1/120ths of a second on NTSC > modes - you'll just have to figure out the math yourself - I've had no sleep > and my brain's about to shut down...) There's a error in your code. You first have to store the startposition of the beam and reset the timer to 0. The following program I made today works correctly and doesn't need the Y Beam command. If you don't want to know how the reading of the beamposition works than just skip the explanation and remove the comment lines. There's only one little problem with this approach: When the beam was on the last scanline and is only one scanline further (position 0) this is 'rounded' up to 1/100 sec. In reality this shouldn't really be a problem ;)). ************************************************************************* ' Timer based on timing of the screen that counts ' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ' Author : Mark de Jong ' Notes : - Based on Nathan Reynolds idea. ' - Timing can be done even more precise. ' The beam position can be determined to 2 pixels precise ! ' And furthermore the Amiga has 2 timers if I'm not mistaken. ' (just beginning to learn assembler). ' - Using a more precise timer would be useless I think, ' because AMOS isn't fast enough to be that accurate. ' Finished : 15-Apr-1998 ' ' ' How does it read the beamposition ? ' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ' It uses this 2 registers: (I means identify (chipset)) ' (V = vertical position of beam) ' (H = horizontal position of beam) ' ' Name: Address: Description: ' VPOSR $DFF004 Read vert most sig. bits (and flame flop) ' ' BIT# 15 14 13 12 11 10 09 08 07 06 05 04 03 02 01 00 ' USE LOF I6 I5 I4 I3 I2 I1 I0 LOF -- -- -- -- -- V10 V9 V8 ' ^^^^^^^^^^ ' We only need the three least sig. bits. ' VHPOSR $DFF006 Read vert and horiz position of beam, or lightpen ' ' BIT# 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 ' USE V7 V6 V5 V4 V3 V2 V1 V0 H8 H7 H6 H5 H4 H3 H2 H1 ' ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ' We only need the first byte of this register ' PAL = 311 ' NTSC = ? THIS=Display Height/2 ' First find out wheter we started counting on the ' first or second half of the screen: BEAMPOS1=(Deek($DFF004) and %111)*256+Peek($DFF006) ' ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ' Higher 3 bits Lower 8 bits ' Filter the other bits out Timer=0 ' Something to measure the speed of. ' A routine for example. For X=1 To 123 Print "madcow "; Next X BEAMPOS2=(Deek($DFF004) and %111)*256+Peek($DFF006) TTIMER=Timer Cls Print Print "Start beampos : ";BEAMPOS1 Print "End beampos : ";BEAMPOS2 ' Which area did the beam start/end in If BEAMPOS1>THIS Then BEAMPOS1=1 Else BEAMPOS1=0 If BEAMPOS2>THIS Then BEAMPOS2=1 Else BEAMPOS2=0 TIMEPASSED=TTIMER*2+BEAMPOS2-BEAMPOS1 If Ntsc Then DIVIDE=60*2 Else DIVIDE=50*2 Print "Time passed : ";TIMEPASSED;" /";DIVIDE;" second(s)." ----------------------------------------------------. Mark de Jong - Member of team *Amiga* & team *AMOS* | : EMail : joopdejong@wxs.nl . IRC : Niceguy on #AMOS, #Amiga & #AmigaNL From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 16:22:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 16:22:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01483 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:22:20 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19852 for amos-out; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19849 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermes.clara.net (hermes.clara.net [195.8.69.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03519 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nsl (du-1658.claranet.co.uk [195.8.78.188]) by hermes.clara.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA18261; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:08:48 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "Nathan Reynolds" To: Cc: "AMOS list" Subject: RE: counting 100 times per second Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:08:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bd6962$ba1b3a60$bc4e08c3@nsl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Status: O X-Status: > >>> Hello, I want to know is it possible to make a timer in Amos > >>> that would display in 1/100's of a second? > > You can use the scan line position to help you. > There's a error in your code. Every code fragment I send to the list has an error in it somewhere. Of course, I've only sent two pieces, but, well, you know, it's not good for my ego :) Oh well. -- Brought to you DIRECT from the slightly bruised ego of Nathan Reynolds :) IRC: Shakester, Shaykstur. ICQ UIN: 10356180. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 20:00:43 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 20:00:42 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25034 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:00:41 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA14682 for amos-out; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14679 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20947 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24197 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:30:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA10170 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:11:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA12430 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:11:07 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:11:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Subject: Amos Counting... In-Reply-To: <000801bd6962$ba1b3a60$bc4e08c3@nsl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hey everybody, Here's a quick but important question, does NTSC amos count in 60th of a second so wait 60 would wait 1 second as opposed to PAL amos where wait 50 waits a second? The manual for AmosPro makes no such distinction between AMOS NTSC and AMOS PAL and I've always timed my games based on 50 vbls = 1 second, but as an NTSC user I guess I could be doing it wrong, also lately I've been trying to code a game set to certain sampled LEd Zeppelin riffs, but the timing has been a pain, so maybe this 60/50 vbls a seocnd thing could explain my troubles, adn I thouhgt maybe amos was just slow in initiating the play of large samples! Thanks, Scott Matott sXe From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 21:12:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 16 21:12:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26239 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:12:06 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA16856 for amos-out; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16853 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermes.clara.net (hermes.clara.net [195.8.69.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20239 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nsl (du-1306.claranet.co.uk [195.8.77.198]) by hermes.clara.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA15142; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:36:39 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "Nathan Reynolds" To: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Cc: "AMOS list" Subject: RE: Amos Counting... Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:36:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bd69a1$4715bce0$c64d08c3@nsl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: > Does NTSC amos count in 60th of a second? Short answer: Yeah. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 03:22:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 03:22:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29131 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:22:05 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA17945 for amos-out; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17942 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09333 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:29:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from mail.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.82]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA183 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:34:37 -0600 Received: from ccMail by mail.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0000CD11; Fri, 17 Apr 98 01:29:04 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:23:25 -0600 Message-ID: <0000CD11.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re: Slow Bobs and Turbo Plus To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: >>1. Is there anyway to speed up the Bob drawing process. I have >>about 12-20 Bobs on screen at once and the time to complete my loop >>is astonishingly slow for so few Bobs. Is there any way to speed up >>the Bob drawing process of AMOS. BTW the bobs are only about 16x16. Is your loop slow when compiled? Compiling your program may give it the extra speed it requires. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 19 13:53:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 19 13:53:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02056 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:53:10 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA28897 for amos-out; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA28894 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09421 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc2.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.2]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id CAA09107 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 02:23:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1978 09:11:30 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Zones & Fontsne J. Keller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello. First i want to thank Rune J. Keller and Alastair Murray for helping me with the Mousepointer & fading problem i had, sometimes i am so stupid! But here is a couple of more problems i need a solution to before my Diskmag code is finnished. Is there a way to get amos to check if the mousepointer isent inside a zone that is set up with The set zone command?? Something like this: If mouse zone=no zones then do some suff And is there a good way for displaying fonts in your code and store them in some sort of a memory bank?? I've tyed the font commands in Amcaf from Aminet, but each time you change the font it takes up some memory, like this. (set up 2 font banks with diffrent font) Do Change bank font 10 Text 10,10,"Amos REWLS" wait 20 Change bank font 11 Text 10,10,"AMOS rewls" print chip free+fastfree Loop If you run this proggy you will see that your memory runs down until you're out of memory, so i need some way to have the fonts in a bank and be able to change between two fonts many times without loosing memory each time i change the font to the other one. And last, i dont really understand the Gui Clone command, can someone explain that command to me a little better, and will i finally be able to open a 32 colour hires screen with the Gui extension V1.7 and the gui Clone command and be able to print text, place bobs and fade the screen?????? Oki, help me out with those questions you know. Thanx. Morten Bolstad. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 07:11:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 07:11:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04422 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:11:14 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA18467 for amos-out; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18464 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA29705 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23714 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1998 10:02:32 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 17 Apr 1998 10:02:32 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.67]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA31284; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:02:30 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au, amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:38:10 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3536C012.2D77@mail.ozemail.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: HDD optimiser MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id GAA18465 Status: O X-Status: On 17-Apr-98, geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au smashed the keyboard with: > Hello all, > > Is there an optimiser for Hard Drives like the IBM Defrag utility? Yepz, Quarterback tools has a good one, and I think there's a few PD ones on AmiNET -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last one out, turn off the computer! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 06:42:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 06:42:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02798 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:42:00 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA18472 for amos-out; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18469 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA13947 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:03:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23985 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1998 10:03:09 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 17 Apr 1998 10:03:09 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.67]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAE31284 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:03:08 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:52:12 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: THANKS !! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id GAA18470 Status: RO X-Status: Hello, Just a quick note to say many, many thanks to all who has helped me with the TTF fonts problem. I won't send mails to all of you, but I hope that I can do something in return some day... -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An elephant is a mouse with an operating system. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 07:43:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 07:43:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19075 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:43:03 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA18530 for amos-out; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access5.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access5.digex.net [205.197.245.196]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18527 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access5.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA04835 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:58:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "M. Cox" Message-Id: <199804171058.GAA04835@access5.digex.net> Status: RO X-Status: >From DOCUM.DO@wanadoo.fr Fri Apr 17 05:56:37 1998 X-Received: from wanadoo.fr (smtp-2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.37]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07330 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 05:56:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from tamaya.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.31] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:56:29 +0200 (MET DST) X-Received: from bdx1-193.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.252.134.193] by tamaya.wanadoo.fr for Paris Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:56:16 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199804170956.LAA26388@tamaya.wanadoo.fr> Reply-To: <@wanadoo.fr> From: "CLAUDE GINDRE" To: Subject: FindPrg Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:55:53 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:58:28 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Bonjour sorry but I don't know english very well I would find an amos programme which compact all files in ONLY ONE programme What is the number of amos disk ? Where I buy these one ? I would have some news for AMOS LANGAGE MERCI Thank you for your help Claude Gindre From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 17:05:02 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 17:05:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01832 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:05:00 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA27320 for amos-out; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27317 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22658 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p13-flameback-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.62.13]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAE26366 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:08:15 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 17 Apr 98 20:06:36 +0100 Subject: A few things... Message-Id: <3537B64C.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: RO X-Status: You might be interested to know that I seemed to have solved my problems with Backbone. One of the problems was that the AMCAF tool types command crashes my computer if I don't run Newicons! Sounds weird I know, but if I boot my computer with one startup command missing "Newicons" then the program crashs unless I remove the tooltype command. Another does appear to be the fact that the program was too big. The GUI extension has helped this as I no longer need all the custom code to make my own interface. Now, if I run a GUI program on its own 8 colour screen, normally evrything is fine. But if I boot with no startup-sequence so all my custom Gadtools prefs etc. are reset to normal, and run the program, the slider gadgets have invisable sliders! Any one know why this happens (its not to do with two colours being the same) or any way around it? 4 colour screens seem to work fine however. More GUI questions: Is there any way to detect whether your screen is put to back/brought to front? My problem is that I have two screens open, one is a normal screen and the other is a overlaid screen that contains various things using the GUI Clone command. What I'd like to happen is that when you put the main screen to back/to front the other screen moves with it. But what actually happens is that the screens are totally independant and you have to manually set up the screens to be in front of each other if you want to swap to workbench or another application. Any ideas here? Finally, look out for Backbone2 !!! :) Should be on aminet soon (if it ever gets fixed) and uses the GUI extension extensively. I think its a good example of what can be done with the extension. Its not just a simple, one or two wiindows on the workbench like most demo's are. It uses several screens and tons of windows, creating a large (and finally OS friendly) application! Alternatively, E-mail me if you want me to send it! Excuse the advertisements, but I've been working on it constantly the last week to convert it to use the GUI extension and I'm relieved that its done..... although it still needs updates... -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 20:41:23 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 20:41:23 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19389 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:41:22 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20289 for amos-out; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20286 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.enterprise.net ([194.72.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14146 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from enterprise.net (nobody@ppp157.enterprise.net [194.72.195.157]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA28780 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:18:53 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Crowe Reply-To: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:31:21 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Manta Soft Subject: Amospro 3D lib. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hi All, I am wondering if any one out there has or knows where I can get a copy of the AMOS 3D library that will work in AMOSPro. I still have the original version, so is there any way of getting it to work in AMOS pro? Also, does anyone know why some commands in the Intuition Lib V1.3b don't work (Set IFont, slider commands etc.)? 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To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:54:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Serial comms faster than 19k2? Reply-to: chris@tornado.pair.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Message-Id: Status: RO X-Status: Hi there, Is there any way to get AMOS (preferably Pro 2, but I`ll use Classic 1.36 if necessary...) to read/write to the *standard* serial port faster than 19.2 kbaud, using 8n1 RTS/CTS settings? I`m writing a small utility to communicate with a digital camera, and the camera itself supports transfer speeds of 57k6 and 115k2 in addition to 19k2 and below, so I`d like to have the software support them as well - downloading a camera-load of images at 19k2 is sloooooow... I`ve found a variety of replacement serial.devices on Aminet which all claim to allow these sorts of speeds with the standard hardware, but I can`t figure out how to use them with AMOS, and if I simply try setting a baud rate of >19k2 within AMOS itself, I end up with no comms at all. Is it possible? TIA Chris -- At Home With the Chris Amigas, Babylon 5, Flight Sims, RIAT'97 and Melanie C http://www.tornado.pair.com/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 22:38:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 17 22:38:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07229 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:38:33 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA23276 for amos-out; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23273 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA26806 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4652 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1998 02:17:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.146) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 18 Apr 1998 02:17:16 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: chris@tornado.pair.com CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:14:50 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Serial comms faster than 19k2? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Hi there, > Is there any way to get AMOS (preferably Pro 2, but I`ll use Classic > 1.36 if necessary...) to read/write to the *standard* serial port > faster than 19.2 kbaud, using 8n1 RTS/CTS settings? I`m writing a > small utility to communicate with a digital camera, and the camera > itself supports transfer speeds of 57k6 and 115k2 in addition to 19k2 > and below, so I`d like to have the software support them as well - > downloading a camera-load of images at 19k2 is sloooooow... > I`ve found a variety of replacement serial.devices on Aminet which > all claim to allow these sorts of speeds with the standard hardware, > but I can`t figure out how to use them with AMOS, and if I simply try > setting a baud rate of >19k2 within AMOS itself, I end up with no > comms at all. > Is it possible? If you can get the FD files for some of these libraries, then use the FD extension to turn the library into a set of AMOS commands for use with AMOSPro. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 18 06:08:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 18 06:08:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03247 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 06:08:13 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA23694 for amos-out; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 05:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23691 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 05:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA26451 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 05:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14259 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1998 09:06:45 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 18 Apr 1998 09:06:45 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.117]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA27380; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:06:43 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Andrew Crowe , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:42:59 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: Amospro 3D lib. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id FAA23692 Status: O X-Status: On 17-Apr-98, Andrew Crowe smashed the keyboard with: > Hi All, > > I am wondering if any one out there has or knows where I can get > a copy of the AMOS 3D library that will work in AMOSPro. I still have > the original version, so is there any way of getting it to work in > AMOS pro? You need to have V1.12+ of Amos Pro, then select 'latest news' from the 'help' menu, and there's a description on how to use the old compiler and the 3D with Pro (If you're running Pro 2.00 you have to step back through the 'latest news' listings to find that of 1.12.. -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 18 06:25:43 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 18 06:25:42 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05360 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 06:25:41 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA23699 for amos-out; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 05:06:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23696 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 05:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA08712 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 05:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14932 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1998 09:06:49 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 18 Apr 1998 09:06:49 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.117]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB27380; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:06:47 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Chris Coulson , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:50:13 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: Serial comms faster than 19k2? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id FAA23697 Status: O X-Status: On 17-Apr-98, Chris Coulson smashed the keyboard with: > Is there any way to get AMOS (preferably Pro 2, but I`ll use Classic > 1.36 if necessary...) to read/write to the *standard* serial port > faster than 19.2 kbaud, using 8n1 RTS/CTS settings? I`m writing a > small utility to communicate with a digital camera, and the camera > itself supports transfer speeds of 57k6 and 115k2 in addition to 19k2 > and below, so I`d like to have the software support them as well - > downloading a camera-load of images at 19k2 is sloooooow... Try and grab 'Lserial' extension from Dev/AMOS on AmiNET, or get it from my homepages (It think MUSH has it somewhere too), it gives a much better control of the serial coms, and also hosts some usefull special commands for processing information from the serial.device.. Then try and combine it with the 8n1.device from AmiNET, but DON'T change your setup in WB-prefs, use it in the LSerial 'Open' command. That's the most powerfull combination of AMOS and the internal serial-port I can think of right now.. (Perhaps the baudbandit.device is better, I don't know..) -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This screen intentionally left blank. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 18 19:42:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 18 19:42:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16224 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:42:26 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA24973 for amos-out; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24961 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29091 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3064 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1998 17:52:04 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 18 Apr 1998 17:52:04 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.71]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA48274; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:51:57 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: matti.niskanen@plai.fi, rayman@ticino.com, andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk, timh@samnet.net, gdwarf@applausenett.no, hergeir@algonet.se, peterj@centrum.dk, xs@xnet.it, optix@hotmail.com, Angus@angusm.demon.co.uk, worf@edc.ml.org, ISForce@aol.com, DA501300@ntu.ac.uk, dasoft@zetnet.co.uk, bellm@el1uk.wl.com, A1JONATH@doreen.rainhammark.kent.sch.uk, amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:07:51 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Alien Breed LevelED V3.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA24971 Status: O X-Status: Hello, Right on, after about 2 weeks delay, I've got a new version of the AlienBreed 3D-II Level Editor ready, It can be downloaded from my homepage in the moment of writing, I'll also see if I can get it on AmiNET, I had some problems uploading the last version, but we'll see.. I've jumped the version number, as I've got all of the editor running on public screens now, I'd planned for a version 2.16 to fix some bugs, but as I went on I thought it would be foolish to release V2.16 and V3.00 with app. a week in between.. After I recived V1.60 of the OSDevKit extension for AMOS, it all went so smooth... Anyway, as you can see on the changes list below, I've included some ideas given to me, I've got a few more on the drawing-board, including a system where the 'define zones' also defines the points as you go.. One of the most importaint news in this version is the full support for the bitmap-frame-data used by the game, so the space-wasting, and always missing, '.dta' and '.hqn' files can now be removed.. News in V3.00 (Released: 18-04-1998) ! RELEASE NOTES ! - This Version 3.00 is running 100% on intuition screens, Also some of the 'old' converters has been removed, as they were proberly never used anyway (Floor/Texture).. This version is also the first since 2.13 that has been optimized, so it's quite fast and don't waste memory on useless stuff.. As a side-effect on the convertion to intuition, I've found some stupid bugs, especialy in some of the setup procedures, they should've been delt with a long time ago, but has never been done proberly... ENJOY !!!.. * NEW - 'Build Archive' function, packs level and/or changed game-setup in an archive ready to send to others (Lzx/LhA/Custom). You should read the docs on how this works before attempting. !!! Thanks to Tiziano for the Idea !!! - Editor now uses the 'ptr' and 'wad' files for objects which the game also uses, rather than the sometimes missing 'hqn'/'dta' files.. - 'Vector-file-setup' converted to intuition-screen.. - 'Set Obj GFX frames' converted to intuition-screen.. - 'Define Bullets' converted to intuition-screen.. - 'Define Guns' converted to intuition-screen.. - 'Define Aliens' converted to intuition-screen.. (The setup is split on 2 pages if you run on half-height screen) - 'Define Objects' converted to intuition-screen.. - 'Define Players' converted to intuition-screen.. - 'Define floor stats' converted to intuition-screen.. - 'Level-Intro-Texts' now runs on intuition-screen.. - Wrote a new general requester to define animation-frames.. - Changed 'Delete' in the define animations to delete the chosen frame, and NOT the last one as before.. - Added 'Insert' in the define animations.. - New option: 'Level GFX', replaces 'Set Wall GFX', 'Set Floortiles' and 'Set Texture Tiles'... - New option: 'Samples', replaces 'SFX files', 'Background SFX' and 'Echoed SFX'... - The editor can now open with half-height-screen, this is done for those who can't stand laced screens and who don't have access to dblpal/ntsc modes (See Tooltypes).. - 'Copy' and 'Copy All' is back in 'define heights'.. - Point 'marker' is back, shows 'snaped' position of point.. - 'Snap' can now be disabled.. - 'Convert ObjFrames' moved to 'tools' and converted to intuition.. - 'IFF->Walls' moved to 'tools' and converted to intuition.. - 'Convert HQN' moved to 'tools'.. - 'New Converters' now respects the chosen screen-mode.. - 'Frames->IFF' changed to use the data the game uses.. - 'Convert HQN' and 'Convert Frames' don't save the now useless files '.hqn' and '.dat'.. - Copy removed in 'Define Bullets', the import data function is capable of doing excatly the same.. - Copy removed in 'Define Aliens', Use import data to do the same.. - Copy removed in 'Define Objects', Use import data to do the same.. * FIXED - A left-over would make the 'old' screens look odd after painting walls. - Zoom now centers proberly.. - Editor didn't show points at the very buttom of the screen.. - The Editor sometimes set up some useless work-assigns, removed.. - Removed some screen-swaping errors when requesters were needed in 'old' sections.. - Fixed some crashes when calling requesters.. - A stupid screen-swap was done when starting up.. - Path in 'Play Music'.. - 'New convertes' used some wrong colours on older versions of datatypes. (Why didn't anyone find this ??) - Editor now clean up memory better than before.. - A large number of potential bugs, that would happen in very rare cases. * INTERNAL CHANGES - Wrote new general selector-routines.. - Optimized some code in the screen-drawing.. - Removed app. 100 Kb unused code and data.. - Now compiled with OS DevKit V1.61 and AMCAF V1.50.. ! NEW TOOLTYPES - 'OldSM' opens on a 664*266 Hires-screen, just like before V2.14. Except this will still be an intuition-screen. Overrules 'AskSM'... - 'ARC=' Sets custom archiver used by 'Build Archive'.. ! New locale-strings: - 95,96,859,1202,1203,1204,1205,1206,1207,1208 2100,2101,2102,2103,2104,2147,2148,2149,2200,2201,2202,2210,2211,2212, 2213,2214,2220,2221,2222,2223,2224,2225,2226,2227,2228,2229,2230,2240, 2301,2302,2310,2311 -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The computer is mightier than the pen, the sword, and usually, the programmer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 18 18:38:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 18 18:38:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22592 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:38:57 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA24959 for amos-out; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24956 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08836 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3226 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1998 17:52:04 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 18 Apr 1998 17:52:04 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.71]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB48274 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:52:02 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:22:47 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Crossing Lines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA24957 Status: O X-Status: Hello, I have stupid problem, and the reason for me not solving it is proberly that the solution lies right in front of me.. Anyway, I need a way to see if 2 straight lines crosses eachother. Detailed information: - The lines are defined on a 2-dimensional grid (X,Y) by their starting and ending points. - The check MUST ensure that the lines actualy cross, it's not a 'they-would- if-they-were-longer' check I need (That's realy easy to to).. - Speed of the checker is NOT very importaint, the accurency is.. I hope someone can help on that, I've thought about it for ages now.. Oh yes, both mathmatical descriptions and actual code is welcome ;-) Code-segments may use 'AMCAF', 'EasyLife', 'LDos', 'Turbo +', 'Craft' if that makes it easier to explain to a nut like me B:-).. -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Save energy: Drive a smaller shell. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 00:43:45 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 00:43:44 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06688 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 00:43:42 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA29492 for amos-out; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 00:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA29489 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 00:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21795 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 00:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA19492; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:35:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA02234; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:34:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id XAA26373; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:34:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:34:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Jens Vang Petersen cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Crossing Lines In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Jens, The problem seems simple to me, check if the lines cross in the infinite case, and then see if the point of intersection is within the finite range you want to look at (ie the screen) Since any non paralell lines will cross this will work fine just solve the equations of the lines for any intersect point and then check if that point is in the allowable range. Does that make sense, seems really simle so let me know if you tired it already and if so why it didn't work. Thanks, Scott Matott sXe From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 02:48:40 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 02:48:39 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25888 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 02:48:37 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA29548 for amos-out; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 02:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA29545 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 02:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BBS.cu-muc.de (BBS.cu-muc.de [195.38.157.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA02235 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 02:30:11 -0400 (EDT) X-ROUTED: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 08:29:06 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Platon Received: from cu-muc.de [195.38.157.102] by BBS.cu-muc.de with smtp id AIBMCCFE ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 08:28:34 -0500 From: Chris Hodges To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 08:30:22 EST5 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Crossing Lines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id CAA29546 Status: O X-Status: top_cat@post8.tele.dk wrote on 19-Apr-98: > Hello, > Anyway, I need a way to see if 2 straight lines crosses eachother. Well, I had the this same problem some months ago when I was about to write a collision routine of two polygons. These are the results of my effort. Should be nearly the fastest method: Screen Open 0,320,256,4,0 Curs Off : Flash Off : Paper 0 : Pen 1 : Cls Palette 0,$FF0,$F0,$F00 Double Buffer Autoback 0 Dim COD1(4),COD2(4) COD1(0)=Rnd(219)+50 COD1(1)=Rnd(155)+50 COD1(2)=1 COD1(3)=1 COD1(4)=0 COD2(0)=Rnd(219)+50 COD2(1)=Rnd(155)+50 COD2(2)=-1 COD2(3)=-1 COD2(4)=Rnd(1024) Do Screen Swap : Multi Wait Blitter Clear 0,0 Add COD1(0),COD1(2) If COD1(0)<50 or COD1(0)>279 Then COD1(2)=-COD1(2) Add COD1(1),COD1(3) If COD1(1)<50 or COD1(1)>205 Then COD1(3)=-COD1(3) Add COD1(4),3 Blitter Clear 0,1 Add COD2(0),COD2(2) If COD2(0)<50 or COD2(0)>279 Then COD2(2)=-COD2(2) Add COD2(1),COD2(3) If COD2(1)<50 or COD2(1)>205 Then COD2(3)=-COD2(3) Add COD2(4),5 X11=COD1(0)+Qcos(COD1(4),50) Y11=COD1(1)+Qsin(COD1(4),50) X12=COD1(0)+Qcos(COD1(4)+256,100) Y12=COD1(1)+Qsin(COD1(4)+256,100) X13=COD1(0)+Qcos(COD1(4)+512,100) Y13=COD1(1)+Qsin(COD1(4)+512,100) X14=COD1(0)+Qcos(COD1(4)+768,100) Y14=COD1(1)+Qsin(COD1(4)+768,100) Turbo Draw X11,Y11 To X12,Y12,3 Turbo Draw X12,Y12 To X13,Y13,1 Turbo Draw X13,Y13 To X14,Y14,1 Turbo Draw X14,Y14 To X11,Y11,1 X21=COD2(0)+Qcos(COD2(4),70) Y21=COD2(1)+Qsin(COD2(4),70) X22=COD2(0)+Qcos(COD2(4)+256,70) Y22=COD2(1)+Qsin(COD2(4)+256,70) X23=COD2(0)+Qcos(COD2(4)+512,70) Y23=COD2(1)+Qsin(COD2(4)+512,70) X24=COD2(0)+Qcos(COD2(4)+768,70) Y24=COD2(1)+Qsin(COD2(4)+768,70) Turbo Draw X21,Y21 To X22,Y22,3 Turbo Draw X22,Y22 To X23,Y23,2 Turbo Draw X23,Y23 To X24,Y24,2 Turbo Draw X24,Y24 To X21,Y21,2 ' That's the mathematical background: ' Each line is represented by two formulars. TETA and LAMBDA must be between 0.0 and 1.0. ' X11+TETA*(X12-X11)=X21+LAMBA*(X22-X21) ' Y11+TETA*(Y12-Y11)=Y21+LAMBA*(Y22-Y21) ' ' TETA*(X12-X11)=(X21-X11)+LAMBA*(X22-X21) ' TETA*(Y12-Y11)=(Y21-Y11)+LAMBA*(Y22-Y21) ' TETA=((X21-X11)+LAMBA*(X22-X21))/(X12-X11) ' (((X21-X11)+LAMBA*(X22-X21))/(X12-X11))*(Y12-Y11)=(Y21-Y11)+LAMBA*(Y22-Y21) ' (((X21-X11)+LAMBA*(X22-X21))/(X12-X11))*(Y12-Y11)-(Y21-Y11)=LAMBA*(Y22-Y21) ' ((X21-X11)*(Y12-Y11)/(X12-X11))-(Y21-Y11)=LAMBA*((Y22-Y21)-((X22-X21)*(Y12-Y11)/(X21-X11))) ' ************************************************************** ' The important bits! (The actual testing) ' ************************************************************** NENNER=(Y11-Y21)*(X12-X11)+(X21-X11)*(Y12-Y11) TEILER=(Y22-Y21)*(X12-X11)-(X22-X21)*(Y12-Y11) If NENNER<0 and TEILER<0 NENNER=-NENNER : TEILER=-TEILER End If If NENNER=>0 and NENNER<=TEILER NENNER=(Y21-Y11)*(X22-X21)+(X11-X21)*(Y22-Y21) TEILER=(Y12-Y11)*(X22-X21)-(X12-X11)*(Y22-Y21) If NENNER<=0 and TEILER<0 NENNER=-NENNER : TEILER=-TEILER End If If NENNER=>0 and NENNER<=TEILER ' *** We've got a hit! *** Colour 0,$40 Else Colour 0,0 End If Else Colour 0,0 End If Loop -- Regards, Chris Hodges (http://platon.home.pages.de) __ __ A4000TE/60, 42MB, 3.6GB HD, CD, ZIP, CV64, FliFix __ /// / / _____ GCS d s-:+>: a21 C+++>$ U*++ P L E---- W++ N+> \\\/// / /_/ ___/ LOGOUT K- w----- M- ?V PS+ PE Y++ PGP++ t++ 5+++ X++ \XX/ \__/ __/ FASCISM! R tv- b++ DI? D-- G+ e++>+++* h! !r--- !y+ AMIGA RULEZ! \/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 16:43:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 16:43:00 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05056 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:01:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29835 for amos-out; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29832 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-04-189.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.128.189]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24159 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp12-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.61]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA27821 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:54:49 -0500 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:50:05 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Amospro 3D lib. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 17-Apr-98, Andrew Crowe wrote: >a copy of the AMOS 3D library that will work in AMOSPro. I still have >the original version, so is there any way of getting it to work in >AMOS pro? There is a directory on one of the productivity disks that has the amospro_3d.library file in it. You replace the old one with that and 3d works with pro. >Also, does anyone know why some commands in the Intuition Lib V1.3b >don't work (Set IFont, slider commands etc.)? Because Andy lost interest in debugging the program. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:10:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:10:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06453 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:10:55 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29840 for amos-out; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29837 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-04-189.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.128.189]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26487 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:55:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp12-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.61]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA27827 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:54:53 -0500 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:51:32 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Serial comms faster than 19k2? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 17-Apr-98, Chris Coulson wrote: >Is there any way to get AMOS (preferably Pro 2, but I`ll use Classic >1.36 if necessary...) to read/write to the *standard* serial port >faster than 19.2 kbaud, >Is it possible? Use the serial speed command. Serial Speed 57600 Badda bing. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:30:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:30:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16450 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:30:06 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA04052 for amos-out; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 18:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04049 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25896 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 18:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28927 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1998 21:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-22.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.150) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 19 Apr 1998 21:56:43 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00rl5; Sun, 19 Apr 98 17:55:22 GMT Date: Sun, 19 Apr 98 17:55:22 GMT Message-Id: <9804191755.AA00rl4@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: Peskanov (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: [AMOSList] Bunch of questions Status: O X-Status: Hello all! Sorry if some of these questions are very basic, i'm very new to newsgrups! - I have heard that there have been fixes in AMOS library (lace problem on 3.1) Where can i find those fixes? - Now that development continues, where can i send bug reports? I know some nasty AMOSPro bugs that are somewhat strange and annoying... - I have been coding in AMOS+Devpac for years, and I have buyed a Blizzard PowerPc. Does anybody know a way to call a simple Power assembler program from AMOS? I have the assembler pasm, and the warp os and phase 5 ppc library docs. A simple example would be cool... Thanks in advance! Luis Pons, replace@nexo.es (Replace for "malemana") -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:05:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:05:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07365 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:05:27 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01594 for amos-out; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:16:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01591 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.enterprise.net ([194.72.192.20]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24252 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:16:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from enterprise.net (nobody@ppp448.enterprise.net [194.72.196.194]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA05698 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 20:15:58 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Crowe Reply-To: andrewcrowe@enterprise.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 21:10:35 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Manta Soft Subject: Re: Zones & Fontsne J. Keller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.7413.1790.271893304.1" Status: RO X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. This message was composed on an Amiga using the YAM mailer. YAM is available at http://bitcom.ch/~mbeck/ --BOUNDARY.7413.1790.271893304.1 Content-Type: text/plain Hi, I tried to use AMOS' zone functions, but I just couldn't get the hang of them so I wrote this custom routine which I think works better anyway ;) You should be able to use this source in your own programs :) See ya. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | ,aNNN | | a& NL ,a, ,gNNNNN | | @7L d 0 ,a,,aw ,a,, JN Q, ,a,,aw,,,, ,gNM"`NN' | | J 9w" K N" "" NN"""""WF ~3&N" "" N ""^N" NF | | N , " , Nd ,@M, NN JML @ML d@N ,@4, N ', JK | |d JMc dN N NN NN 0 1 1J1 0 0 NN N L,K | |N,N 0w' Na@h,,a,,NQ,0 &J1J&,0 \,,a,,N JF | | "" " ~" ""~"""~"" "" """ t""~""" j"1 | | F JgmJ ,gm | | F N" N ,, F ,N gNN | | Andrew Crowe Q jJF mP p""9w,NL NwmP 0mw | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ] / I 0 F@ am, Nw ,0& ,N | | Manta Soft ,F\ a' ,N Nf L E 0 0ML N""N 0" | | ~~~~~~~~~~ ,N \, ,P N@" JF & `@" NJL N N 0 | | ,N ad" \wam" `Nx,aN JNmN NmN | | NN ,,gN" ""PP" | | dNNNNN" | | NNN@" Web Designing and // | | Visit our Web Site: "" Amiga Programming \\// | | | | HTTP://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ | | | +----------------------------+ This signature was created using | | andrewcrowe@enterprise.net | AsciiArt Studio | +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ --BOUNDARY.7413.1790.271893304.1 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Zones.Asc" '************************ '*\ /* '* Custom mouse zones * '*/ \* '************************ ' ' By Andrew Crowe ' andrewcrowe@enterprise.net ' Rem These set up the zones! Dim ZO(7,3),AN(NRN,1),ANAL(2) ' 'ZO(n,0) = X1 ZO(n,1) = Y1 ZO(n,2) = X2 ZO(n,3) = Y2 ' ' ZO(0,0)=40 : ZO(0,1)=48 : ZO(0,2)=148 : ZO(0,3)=68 B=1 ZO(B,0)=40 : ZO(B,1)=128 : ZO(B,2)=148 : ZO(B,3)=148 B=2 ZO(B,0)=40 : ZO(B,1)=152 : ZO(B,2)=148 : ZO(B,3)=172 B=3 ZO(B,0)=40+120 : ZO(B,1)=128 : ZO(B,2)=148+120 : ZO(B,3)=148 B=4 ZO(B,0)=40+120 : ZO(B,1)=152 : ZO(B,2)=148+120 : ZO(B,3)=172 B=5 ZO(B,0)=64 : ZO(B,1)=72 : ZO(B,2)=104 : ZO(B,3)=88 B=6 ZO(B,0)=64 : ZO(B,1)=88 : ZO(B,2)=96 : ZO(B,3)=104 B=7 ZO(B,0)=58 : ZO(B,1)=108 : ZO(B,2)=106 : ZO(B,3)=125 Rem This drawers some buttons For B=0 To 7 Ink B+6 Bar ZO(B,0),ZO(B,1) To ZO(B,2),ZO(B,3) Ink 0 Box ZO(B,0),ZO(B,1) To ZO(B,2),ZO(B,3) Next Print At(0,2);"Press the blue button to quit" Do X=X Screen(X Mouse) Y=Y Screen(Y Mouse) If Mouse Key Print At(0,0);" " Rem This checks all the buttons For A=0 To 7 If X>ZO(A,0) and Y>ZO(A,1) and XFrom amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 17:54:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25721 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:54:07 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA02376 for amos-out; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02372 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:41:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from star.flashnet.it (star.flashnet.it [194.247.160.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20226 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ip034.pool-01.flashnet.it (Berionne@ip034.pool-01.flashnet.it [194.247.191.34]) by star.flashnet.it (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA22956 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:41:33 +0200 Date: 19 Apr 98 22:37:29 +0100 From: "Michele Berionne" Subject: Re: Crossing Lines To: "Jens Vang Petersen" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1403.413T1490T13574915@flashnet.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Hi there! > I have stupid problem, and the reason for me not solving it is proberly > that the solution lies right in front of me.. Let's see... > Anyway, I need a way to see if 2 straight lines crosses eachother. > - The lines are defined on a 2-dimensional grid (X,Y) by their starting > and ending points. > - Speed of the checker is NOT very importaint, the accurency is.. > I hope someone can help on that, I've thought about it for ages now.. > Oh yes, both mathmatical descriptions and actual code is welcome ;-) The solution is quite easy. If speed is not what you really want, the trivial way is a system of two lines. There are 2 equations for 2 unknown variables and so you get just one solution: X,Y. Now you have to check if this point belongs to both the lines and you can do that just checking that X is higher than the starting X of both lines and lower than the ending X (obviously if you sorted the starting and the ending X). Then the same with Y. If both these happens, then X,Y is where the two lines meet each other. I hope I was clear... if you need I can write it in formulas or in Amos code. Bye berionne@flashnet.it >>Flagger<< +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:05:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:05:55 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07619 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:05:55 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04236 for amos-out; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 20:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04233 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 20:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA15247 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 20:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4033 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1998 00:20:03 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 20 Apr 1998 00:20:03 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.30]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA50802; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 02:20:01 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Morten Bolstad , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 02:20:39 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: Zones & Fontsne J. Keller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id UAA04234 Status: O X-Status: Hei Morten.... Please CHECK YOUR CLOCK !!!! On 14-Jun-78, Morten Bolstad smashed the keyboard with: > Is there a way to get amos to check if the mousepointer isent inside a > zone that is set up with The set zone command?? > > Something like this: If mouse zone=no zones then do some suff Uhh I'm not sure if you mean a specific zone or ANY zone so we take both: Not inside ANY zone: If Mouse Zone=0 Then ...... Not inside a specific zone (1 for demo) If Mouse Zone<>1 Then ....... > And is there a good way for displaying fonts in your code and store them in > some sort of a memory bank?? > > I've tyed the font commands in Amcaf from Aminet, but each time you change > the font it takes up some memory, like this. First of all, you CAN'T compile a program that uses the unregistred version of AMCAF (Ok, I know you can Crack it, sorry Chris..).. Uhm, the easylife extension has some font-handeling, but I'm not sure if that'll do what you want... -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You forgot to do your backup 16 days ago. Tomorrow you'll need that version. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:04:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:04:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06551 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:04:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA05514 for amos-out; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05511 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22541 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 529 invoked by uid 1514); 20 Apr 1998 12:08:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:08:55 +0100 (IST) From: Matt To: Amos-List Subject: Global Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Hi, I remember a while back reading that the use of global could cause problems (crashes?) with some versions of Amos/Pro. Can anyone tell me exactly what the problem is/was? Also assuming that it is okay to use global is it quicker to use procedures? I know that Procedures are slower than gosubs because variable space has to be set up and all that but if you only use Global variables would they be faster? /\/\att From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:47:18 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 15:47:18 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03377 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:52:49 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04815 for amos-out; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04812 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07732 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:18:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from mail1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA188 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 02:22:38 -0600 Received: from ccMail by mail1.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 00015FE7; Mon, 20 Apr 98 02:12:36 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:12:45 -0600 Message-ID: <00015FE7.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: GUI Bank -> GadToolsBox File To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: I had a problem last week where my hard drive developed a problem and to cut a long story short I lost some valuable information. This leads me to ask the following question...... Is there a utility available that would convert an AMOS GUI Bank back to its original GadToolsBox format. Thanks. Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 17:19:33 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 20 17:19:32 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17266 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:19:31 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA02471 for amos-out; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02468 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BBS.cu-muc.de (BBS.cu-muc.de [195.38.157.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA21188 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:44:48 -0400 (EDT) X-ROUTED: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:44:00 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Platon Received: from cu-muc.de [195.38.157.119] by BBS.cu-muc.de with smtp id BGCLBFEF ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:43:22 -0500 From: Chris Hodges To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:44:50 EST5 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Zones & Fontsne J. Keller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id QAA02469 Status: O X-Status: top_cat@post8.tele.dk wrote on 21-Apr-98: > First of all, you CAN'T compile a program that uses the unregistred version of > AMCAF (Ok, I know you can Crack it, sorry Chris..).. Well, if anyone's got a cracked version, I'd like to see it. -- Regards, Chris Hodges (http://platon.home.pages.de) __ __ A4000TE/60, 42MB, 3.6GB HD, CD, ZIP, CV64, FliFix __ /// / / _____ GCS d s-:+>: a21 C+++>$ U*++ P L E---- W++ N+> \\\/// / /_/ ___/ LOGOUT K- w----- M- ?V PS+ PE Y++ PGP++ t++ 5+++ X++ \XX/ \__/ __/ FASCISM! R tv- b++ DI? D-- G+ e++>+++* h! !r--- !y+ AMIGA RULEZ! \/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 05:15:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 05:15:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22373 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:15:48 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA10430 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:34:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10427 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA13270 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15360 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1998 08:51:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.94) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 21 Apr 1998 08:51:44 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:36:15 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00015FE7.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: GUI Bank -> GadToolsBox File MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com > > I had a problem last week where my hard drive developed a problem and > to cut a long story short I lost some valuable information. This > leads me to ask the following question...... > > Is there a utility available that would convert an AMOS GUI Bank back > to its original GadToolsBox format. Thanks. > > Declan. Hmm, this sounds like a god utility. If anyone knows of such a thing, please send me a copy too. Thanks. Regards -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 06:00:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 06:00:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28433 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 06:00:34 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA10404 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10401 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:50:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA12103 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15366 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1998 08:51:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.94) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 21 Apr 1998 08:51:47 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Matt CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:39:19 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Global MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello Matt > Hi, > I remember a while back reading that the use of global could cause > problems (crashes?) with some versions of Amos/Pro. Can anyone tell me > exactly what the problem is/was? > Also assuming that it is okay to use global is it quicker to use > procedures? I know that Procedures are slower than gosubs because > variable space has to be set up and all that but if you only use > Global variables would they be faster? Ive always used global variables in my procedures just for the ease of use, and not have to worry about if I SHARED all the variables I need, plus, why repeat code by sharing the same variables over and over again in different procedures. Ive never encountered any problems that would cause my machine to crash, so I dont see any reason not to use it. Regards Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 06:22:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 06:22:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03022 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 06:22:36 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA10435 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10432 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:36:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA13043 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15382 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1998 08:51:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.94) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 21 Apr 1998 08:51:49 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:45:23 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9804191755.AA00rl4@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Bunch of questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello Peskanov > Hello all! Sorry if some of these questions are very basic, > i'm very new to newsgrups! > - I have heard that there have been fixes in AMOS library > (lace problem on 3.1) Where can i find those fixes? Erm, go to the official AMOSPro homepage (rumages around for the URL) http://www.seta.it/amos/ where you can download it. Back up your old library, as there are some lockup problems with it on certain machines. > - Now that development continues, where can i send bug > reports? I know some nasty AMOSPro bugs that are somewhat > strange and annoying... Send them here to the list, so we can discuss them, and generally add to them. > - I have been coding in AMOS+Devpac for years, and I have > buyed a Blizzard PowerPc. Does anybody know a way to call a > simple Power assembler program from AMOS? I have the assembler > pasm, and the warp os and phase 5 ppc library docs. > A simple example would be cool... Im not sure of that one off hand, but one of the Asm coders on the list probbably know more! Regards -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 14:41:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 14:41:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21388 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:55:41 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA11746 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11743 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.seta.it ([195.120.252.200]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13524 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host.seta.it [195.120.252.196] by mail.seta.it [195.120.252.200] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP2.R) for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:37:32 +0200 From: "Fabry" To: Subject: R: Global Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:37:08 +0200 Message-ID: <01bd6d22$32e92de0$c4fc78c3@host.seta.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: amos-list@access.digex.net Status: O X-Status: >> I remember a while back reading that the use of global could cause >> problems (crashes?) with some versions of Amos/Pro. Can anyone tell me >> exactly what the problem is/was? > >Ive always used global variables in my procedures just for the ease of use, >and not have to worry about if I SHARED all the variables I need, plus, why >repeat code by sharing the same variables over and over again in different >procedures. > >Ive never encountered any problems that would cause my machine to crash, so >I dont see any reason not to use it. > I have had a problem about global variables passed as parameters in procedures, causing a system crash, but i don't remember if i was still using AmosPro 1.0/1.1 ; never tried since i have updated to 2.0 I hope this could help. Regards From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 15:48:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 15:48:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08790 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:06:47 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA12233 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12230 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18760 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p07-curlew-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.60.7]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAB3966 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:58:41 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 21 Apr 98 13:52:26 +0100 Subject: DBL PAL Message-Id: <353CA49A.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: I don't have a gfx card and really don't know what each screen mode does and what compatabilities there are etc.etc. so I need someones help who knows about them. Now that Backbone works with the GUI extension, I added an option to run it on any screen mode. It's normally run on either Hires or Hires+Laced. I have a user who uses DBL Pal 640x512 screen for Backbone. Now what Backbone does is to open another screen on top of it for displaying various amos graphics when it needs too. This way, the original screen can be any resolution and I can open the correct resolution screen for GFX. Normally this is OK because a Lowres 32 colour screen displayed on a Hires+Laced 4 colour screen is fine but apparently if the screen is DBL Pal something goes wrong and the lowres screen forces the other one to change resolution. I'm afraid the user isn't a programmer and hasn't done a good job of explaining what exactly happens to me so I really don't know what to do. I'd imagine I'd have to make the lowres screen into some different resolution (DBL Pal lowres?) but I'm hoping someone does know how it works and can solve it for me Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 16:31:42 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 16:31:41 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27112 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:31:41 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03245 for amos-out; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03242 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.iol.ie (mail2.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.193]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18861 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GPO.iol.ie (root@GPO2.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.197]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28326 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:50:32 +0100 Received: from iol.ie (cahill4@dialup-860.dublin.iol.ie [194.125.19.148]) by GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA21735 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:50:30 +0100 From: Peter Cahill To: The Amos List Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:54:35 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9804191755.AA00rl4@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Bunch of questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA03243 Status: O X-Status: On 19-Apr-98, Peskanov wrote: > Hello all! Sorry if some of these questions are very basic, >i'm very new to newsgrups! hi, >- Now that development continues, where can i send bug >reports? I know some nasty AMOSPro bugs that are somewhat >strange and annoying... You can send all your bug reports here, to the amos list. >- I have been coding in AMOS+Devpac for years, and I have >buyed a Blizzard PowerPc. Does anybody know a way to call a >simple Power assembler program from AMOS? I have the assembler >pasm, and the warp os and phase 5 ppc library docs. >A simple example would be cool... I advise you to try the CALL command... Write your asm-code as normal, then just assemble it as a normal executable file. After that use the amos command 'Pload ,' then use the amos command 'Call ', it will execute your code. If you need to transfear data between amos and your code use D0-D7 [Dreg(0)-Dreg(7) in AMOS]. There is also a few other things to note... 1.Only the first CODE segment of the code will be run. 2.Use a 'rts' at the end of your code. 3.You can trash any Data regs without needing to restore them. 4.Check out page '14.A.14' of your AMOSPro manual for more info on Pload and Call. heres a simple example.. -=-=-=-Asm CODE-=-=-=-=- code: cmp.l #2,d0 beq reboot rts reboot: MOVEA.L ($4).W,a6; Reboot the Amiga JSR -726(a6) ; rts not required, coz the miggy reboots at the above line -=-=-=-AMOS CODE-=-=-=-= Pload "ram:reboot",10 Dreg(0)=Rnd(1)+1 : RemIf Rnd(1)+1=2 then it will reboot Call 10 Print "I didn't reboot...This time" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 1.Assemble the code as a normal exefile (Genam ) 2.Run the AMOS code If you want anymore info on this just ask ! >Thanks in advance! np.. cya, - \ \ | / \ \ _\ __/ / \ | \ / __/ \ \/ / / \_ \__ ¶ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ /^^\ (^^) | / \__ \ LPPPPPPPO {Z¯¯C} (TT¯¯O)|/ pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE \_\ LP PÐ {Z C} (TO O) gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES LP PO {Z C} (O o aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG LP PO {Z O} (O sUPPORT aS wELL aS gIVING LOOOOo/ {AXXXXXXOO} (O \_ aMOS mUCH fASTER bOBS, /|LI {AXXXXXXXXX!} (O o| \ sPRITES aND aLL tHE / /OO {/ !} (O C) \ \ oTHER kEWL THINGS lIKE / ¯ / |/ {/ !} (TO C) | \__cDDA aND uNCRACKABLE /¯/¯¯/ C/ /A} (¿¿¿) \ \ mEMORY bANK / / \ | eNCYRPTION tHAT ¯ / cAHILL4@iOL.iE \ \ aNY cODER cOULD / hTTP://wWW.iOL.iE/~cAHILL4/pETER/iNDEX.hTML \ \ eVER aSK fOR !! / | \ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 12:27:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 12:27:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14109 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:27:56 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17013 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17009 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA06410 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (204.186.168.65) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:42:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: Global Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:55:10 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: >> Ive always used global variables in my procedures just for the ease >> of use, and not have to worry about if I SHARED all the variables I >> need, plus, why repeat code by sharing the same variables over >> and over again in different procedures. Yes, your last point is especially interesting. In a large program, repeating the same variable declarations numberous times could indeed use a lot of the source and it makes little sense. Just make them Globals and all procedures can access them. I think that Sharing variables/arrays on a procedure basis is really to allow "data hiding", a basic principle of object oriented programming. If you aren't concerned with this style then Global makes the best sense. >> Ive never encountered any problems that would cause my machine >> to crash, so I dont see any reason not to use it. For the record, the SideShooter stage uses the same approach. All variables are declared as Globally shared and available to all procedures (whether they actually reference them or not). It's certainly faster then passing parameters to each procedure every frame and in an AMOS action oriented project you need to take advantage of these things even more so than in other languages!! >> I have had a problem about global variables passed as parameters >> in procedures, causing a system crash, but i don't remember if i was >> still using AmosPro 1.0/1.1 ; never tried since i have updated to 2.0 I >> hope this could help. Taking variables that have been declared as Global and using them as parameters in procedure calls doesn't sound right in any case. It might work, but it would kind of defeat the whole purpose of declaring them as Global. :-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 16:38:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 16:38:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08046 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:38:16 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA29017 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29006 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:16:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05202 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10899 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1998 19:15:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.202) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 21 Apr 1998 19:15:25 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Alastair Murray CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:27:43 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <353CA49A.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: DBL PAL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello Alastair > I don't have a gfx card and really don't know what each screen mode > does and what compatabilities there are etc.etc. so I need someones > help who knows about them. > Now that Backbone works with the GUI extension, I added an option to > run it on any screen mode. It's normally run on either Hires or > Hires+Laced. > I have a user who uses DBL Pal 640x512 screen for Backbone. > Now what Backbone does is to open another screen on top of it for > displaying various amos graphics when it needs too. This way, the > original screen can be any resolution and I can open the correct > resolution screen for GFX. > Normally this is OK because a Lowres 32 colour screen displayed on a > Hires+Laced 4 colour screen is fine but apparently if the screen is > DBL Pal something goes wrong and the lowres screen forces the other > one to change resolution. > I'm afraid the user isn't a programmer and hasn't done a good job of > explaining what exactly happens to me so I really don't know what to > do. > I'd imagine I'd have to make the lowres screen into some different > resolution (DBL Pal lowres?) but I'm hoping someone does know how it > works and can solve it for me I had a bug report a couple of weeks back (I also sent it to the list) saying that the Gui Clone command caused problems with Gfx cards and Gui Clone. The screenmode itself should be OK, i use a Multiscan:Productivity screenmode with my Mailinglist software, and all is OK with just a regular GUI. To solve it, I have no idea other than to bring the other screen into the same ModeID as the main screen. Regards Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 14:42:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 14:42:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17663 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:42:56 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA24584 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24581 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27479 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18357 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1998 17:50:53 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 21 Apr 1998 17:50:53 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.91]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA39210 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:50:51 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:51:24 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: Global MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA24582 Status: O X-Status: On 21-Apr-98, Garfield Benjamin smashed the keyboard with: > Yes, your last point is especially interesting. In a large program, > repeating the same variable declarations numberous times could > indeed use a lot of the source and it makes little sense. Just make > them Globals and all procedures can access them. I think that > Sharing variables/arrays on a procedure basis is really to allow > "data hiding", a basic principle of object oriented programming. > If you aren't concerned with this style then Global makes the > best sense. Using NON-global variables can be a way of making a 'go-back' system.. E.g. we have a database-program with a procedure for searching the data, after a search we can activate a new search (say for music, you found a track and now want to find aditional with the band), so you let the search-procedure call itselve to preform the new search, if the variables are NOT declared global then you can add a 'back' button to return to the previous search- result (just one way to make use of the (non)global advantages..).. -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... -- Winston Churchill -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 16:17:46 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 16:17:46 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04306 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:17:45 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00210 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00199 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16014 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28765; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:39:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA00487; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:37:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA16355; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:37:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:37:37 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Fabry cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: R: Global In-Reply-To: <01bd6d22$32e92de0$c4fc78c3@host.seta.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > > > I have had a problem about global variables passed as parameters in > procedures, causing a system crash, but i don't remember if i was still > using AmosPro 1.0/1.1 ; never tried since i have updated to 2.0 I hope this > could help. > Regards > I use Amos Pro 2.0 and routinely pass global variables without a problem. Scott Matott sXe> From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 17:39:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 17:39:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17765 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:39:56 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03627 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:04:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03624 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from godzilla.flashback.net ([193.219.224.230]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20328 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flashback.net (grok@ppp25.flashback.net [193.220.72.25]) by godzilla.flashback.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA09541 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 23:04:54 GMT From: Hakan Venderlof Reply-To: grok@flashback.net To: amoslist Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:59:38 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hello... 1 I have rearranged my HD and now when I try to reinstall AMOSPro it just won't work. The installing program says 'wait. Updating your system disk configuration' and after that nothing happens... Is there some way to get around that? 2 I have a backup of my former AMOSinstallation but when I copy that version to the hd, the program says 'can't find APFolder...' Is there some way to get around that? 3 Is it possible to install AMOSPro manually? ---------------------------------------------------------------- greets grok@flashback.net (or: grok@online.idg.se) ---------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 21:11:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 21 21:11:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02720 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:11:55 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA11244 for amos-out; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11241 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03461 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (204.186.168.72) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:56:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Global Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:08:38 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Using NON-global variables can be a way of making a 'go-back' > system.. E.g. we have a database-program with a procedure for > searching the data, after a search we can activate a new search (say > for music, you found a track and now want to find aditional with the > band), so you let the search-procedure call itselve to preform the > new search, if the variables are NOT declared global then you can > add a 'back' button to return to the previous search-result (just one > way to make use of the (non)global advantages..).. Sure this would make recursion easier to implement, although I'm also sure you could achieve the same effect using Globals (at least to a degree), it just wouldn't be as easy. I didn't intend to imply that Globals were superior to parameter- loaded procedure calls. :) Parameters are great!! In my PC C-coding I rely heavily on parameters (as well as Globals where appropriate, of course) because with my P133 I don't need to worry about the stack-access. However, when you are making an action oriented game in AMOS, you would be well advised to eliminate as much stack access as possible. Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 15:36:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 15:36:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23065 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:36:22 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02869 for amos-out; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02866 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12894 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29439 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1998 17:37:07 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 22 Apr 1998 17:37:07 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.1]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAC43892 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:37:06 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:49:13 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Thank You Very Much.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA02867 Status: O X-Status: Hello, Just a quick note to say 'Thank You Very Much' to all those who responded on my problems with Crossing Lines and SCSI2... THANK YOU.. -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This screen intentionally left blank. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 16:59:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 16:58:59 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14344 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:58:59 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02874 for amos-out; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02871 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA15082 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11437 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1998 17:37:10 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 22 Apr 1998 17:37:10 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.1]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAD43892 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:37:08 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:00:03 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: DBL PAL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA02872 Status: O X-Status: On 21-Apr-98, Andy Kellett smashed the keyboard with: >> I don't have a gfx card and really don't know what each screen mode >> does and what compatabilities there are etc.etc. so I need someones >> help who knows about them. > >> Now that Backbone works with the GUI extension, I added an option to >> run it on any screen mode. It's normally run on either Hires or >> Hires+Laced. > >> I have a user who uses DBL Pal 640x512 screen for Backbone. >> Now what Backbone does is to open another screen on top of it for >> displaying various amos graphics when it needs too. This way, the >> original screen can be any resolution and I can open the correct >> resolution screen for GFX. > >> Normally this is OK because a Lowres 32 colour screen displayed on a >> Hires+Laced 4 colour screen is fine but apparently if the screen is >> DBL Pal something goes wrong and the lowres screen forces the other >> one to change resolution. > >> I'm afraid the user isn't a programmer and hasn't done a good job of >> explaining what exactly happens to me so I really don't know what to >> do. > >> I'd imagine I'd have to make the lowres screen into some different >> resolution (DBL Pal lowres?) but I'm hoping someone does know how it >> works and can solve it for me > > I had a bug report a couple of weeks back (I also sent it to the list) > saying that the Gui Clone command caused problems with Gfx cards and Gui > Clone. > > The screenmode itself should be OK, i use a Multiscan:Productivity > screenmode with my Mailinglist software, and all is OK with just a regular > GUI. > > To solve it, I have no idea other than to bring the other screen into the > same ModeID as the main screen. And that just what you have to do, I had the same problem with my editor for AlienBreed3DII when I moved it to public screens, the only difference was that I used the OSDevKit to move it. I wanted to give the user an option to select screenmode, but I also had to open some aditional screens in another resolution (main-screen was hires+laced as standard) for some graphic convertions... Anyway, you need to grab the viewmode of the 'main' screen (or let the user pick one) then do a "SCR_MODE and $FFFF0000" to obtain the 'Monitor ID' and use an "OR" to set the resolution you'd like the other screen to use, then it should open on the same ViewPort (unless you specify the 'own-view-port' tag when opening the screen, but I don't think you can do that with GUI).. An easier way could be to attach the second screen as a 'child' screen to the main, but I don't think that can be done with the 'GUI' extension.. -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God is real, unless declared integer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 16:32:31 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 16:32:30 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27124 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:32:30 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02879 for amos-out; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:37:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02876 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA14558 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29471 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1998 17:37:13 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 22 Apr 1998 17:37:13 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.1]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAE43892; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:37:11 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Hakan Venderlof , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:08:28 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA02877 Status: RO X-Status: On 21-Apr-98, Hakan Venderlof smashed the keyboard with: > I have rearranged my HD and now when I try to reinstall AMOSPro > it just won't work. The installing program says > 'wait. Updating your > system disk configuration' and after that nothing happens... Have you write-protected your install-disc ??? > I have a backup of my former AMOSinstallation but when I copy > that version to the hd, the program says 'can't find APFolder...' If you have the compiler installed, there should be a program called 'Locate_APsystem' in the APsystem folder, run that and It'll set up to the paths to the system... > Is it possible to install AMOSPro manually? Tried it once, it's very tricky but it can be done.. -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is no time to argue about time, we don't have the time... -- Deanna Troi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 07:21:32 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 07:21:31 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00527 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:21:30 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA13874 for amos-out; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13871 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA29436 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:53:05 +0100 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 22 Apr 98 10:59:45 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 22 Apr 98 10:59:21 GMT+0 From: Lee Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:58:19 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Fast RAM Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <2832ED0849@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: RO X-Status: > I've heard people talking about routines to get sounds from FAST ram > or even Bobs from fast ram (or both). > Can anyone who has these sort of routines please send me them? :) I dont know if this is still relevant but I have stored sounds in AmiPet in FastRam, when I want them playing you have to CopyMem() to chip. Its still got to be in chip when playing. And that made no sense when I read it back. ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Its just a big egg pie! ________________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 17:27:47 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 17:27:46 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06274 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:27:44 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA21607 for amos-out; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21604 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA26728 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23041 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1998 21:31:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.153) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 22 Apr 1998 21:31:36 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:28:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: GUI Extension now on webpage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Just to let you know the GUI Extension is now downloadable from my main page (you might have to hit Reload on your browser), and I have also put the latest TCP documentation in there too. Sorry for the delay, been working on a massive upgrade to Mushroom PD, which im sure you`ll all like once I announce it. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 21:40:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 21:40:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05032 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:40:09 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA26063 for amos-out; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26060 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from godzilla.flashback.net ([193.219.224.230]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25253 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flashback.net (grok@ppp21.flashback.net [193.220.72.21]) by godzilla.flashback.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA20025 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 03:04:38 GMT From: Hakan Venderlof Reply-To: grok@flashback.net To: amoslist Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 03:05:01 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: I want a program to randomly select tracker modules to play from one directory. The modules are named only with numbers from 1 to 30. How can that be done? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- greets grok@flashback.net (or: grok@online.idg.se) ---------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 23:29:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 22 23:29:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04616 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:29:26 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA26977 for amos-out; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26974 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17560 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02901; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:05:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA23370; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:02:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id WAA17466; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:02:41 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:02:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List , Hakan Venderlof Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: > I want a program to randomly select tracker modules to play from > one directory. > The modules are named only with numbers from 1 to 30. > > How can that be done? > Piece of Cake, MOD_TO_LOAD=rand(30)+1 load chr$(Mod_To_Load),20 Track Play 20 The only trick is chr$ which converts your random number to a text string so you can load a file with it's name. If this makes no sense let me know. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 26 12:55:26 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 26 12:55:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04823 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 12:55:25 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17209 for amos-out; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:08:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17206 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18395 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc6.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.6]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id TAA15813 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:08:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1978 02:05:45 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Amos Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello! First i wanna inform about that Issue 3 of my Diskmag is released, and it's ofcos done 100% in Amos. So if you feel like reading a good diskmag, contackt me at mortenbo@login.eunet.no and i'll E-Mail it to you. Then over to some questions. 1. Have you seen the game Worms?? Well i wanna make the same rutine that flips the menu bar in Worms around to the next menu in Amos for my next issue of my Diskmag, any idea abouth how i should do this in Amos??? 2. Can someone PLEASE explain the Gui Clone command a bit more for me? Is it possible to use 32 colours in Hires and doo all the usual stuff you see in a diskmag with it?? Please ansver this one before i KILL myselves. I need 32 colour Hires or the other ones involved in the diskmag is going to find a Assember coder to do the job :(( Bye for now MrX/Apt^Gts^Itc. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 10:15:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 10:15:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22909 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:15:09 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01958 for amos-out; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01955 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:35:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA12581 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31398 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1998 12:35:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp14-30.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.94) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 23 Apr 1998 12:35:00 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00ter; Thu, 23 Apr 98 08:33:10 GMT Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 08:33:10 GMT Message-Id: <9804230833.AA00teq@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: tmg296@servalan.ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tristan Greaves) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Re: R: Global Status: O X-Status: Scooter D. Matott sXe (sdmatott@RemoveThisPart.midway.uchicago.edu) wrote: : > I have had a problem about global variables passed as parameters in : > procedures, causing a system crash, but i don't remember if i was still : > using AmosPro 1.0/1.1 ; never tried since i have updated to 2.0 I hope this : > could help. : > Regards : > : I use Amos Pro 2.0 and routinely pass global variables without : a problem. But *why* do you pass them if they are already available to the function? Tris. --- Tristan Greaves. Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton. -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 10:12:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 10:12:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22243 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:12:06 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01963 for amos-out; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:36:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01960 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09831 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31509 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1998 12:35:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp14-30.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.94) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 23 Apr 1998 12:35:25 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00tew; Thu, 23 Apr 98 08:33:25 GMT Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 08:33:25 GMT Message-Id: <9804230833.AA00tev@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: tmg296@servalan.ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tristan Greaves) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Re: Global Status: O X-Status: Garfield Benjamin (gbenjam@RemoveThisPart.sosbbs.com) wrote: : >> Ive always used global variables in my procedures just for the ease : >> of use, and not have to worry about if I SHARED all the variables I : >> need, plus, why repeat code by sharing the same variables over : >> and over again in different procedures. : Yes, your last point is especially interesting. In a large program, : repeating the same variable declarations numberous times could : indeed use a lot of the source and it makes little sense. Just make : them Globals and all procedures can access them. I think that But that is generally considered A Bad Thing (TM). Ideally, you should use hardly any Global variables. My experiences are more in the C/C++/Java line, but they do hold true in AMOS as well. Which reminds me: Java is superior to AMOS. Discuss. :) (no flaming!) Tris. --- Tristan Greaves. Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton. -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 10:25:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 10:25:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26360 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:25:57 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA00962 for amos-out; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00959 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29924 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32429 invoked by uid 1514); 23 Apr 1998 11:04:19 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:04:19 +0100 (IST) From: Matt To: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" cc: Amos List , Hakan Venderlof Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Scooter D. Matott sXe wrote: > > > > I want a program to randomly select tracker modules to play from > > one directory. > > The modules are named only with numbers from 1 to 30. > > > > How can that be done? > > > Piece of Cake, > > MOD_TO_LOAD=rand(30)+1 > load chr$(Mod_To_Load),20 > Track Play 20 > The only trick is chr$ which converts your random > number to a text string so you can load a file > with it's name. If this makes no sense let me know. Fraid you`re not quite right. Chr$ will convert a number into the correspond character dictated by the ASCII code system. In this case most of your strings will be control characters! You need Str$ and remember to use it with a minus space at the end: A$=Str$(NUMBER)-" " ### ### ######## ########### ########### #### #### ### ### ### ### ##!## ##!## #!# #!# #!# #!# !#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@! !@! !@! mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie !!! ! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! x x :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: \__/ ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: :: :: :: :: : : From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 08:16:09 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 08:16:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18790 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:16:08 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01071 for amos-out; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01068 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04163 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23728 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1998 12:08:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.94) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 23 Apr 1998 12:08:44 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Hakan Venderlof CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:08:31 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hello Hakan > I want a program to randomly select tracker modules to play from > one directory. > The modules are named only with numbers from 1 to 30. > How can that be done? Thats easy. Just set a variable with the full path to the mods, and use something like: path$="Music:Mods/" e=int(rnd(30)) m$=str$(e)-" " Track load path$+m$,3: track play 3 Dead easy! Regards Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 09:49:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 09:49:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07770 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:49:11 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01088 for amos-out; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01085 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09658 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24292 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1998 12:10:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.94) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 23 Apr 1998 12:10:24 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" , Amos List , Hakan Venderlof Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:10:09 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re[2]: your mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello Scooter > MOD_TO_LOAD=rand(30)+1 > load chr$(Mod_To_Load),20 > Track Play 20 > The only trick is chr$ which converts your random > number to a text string so you can load a file > with it's name. If this makes no sense let me know. I think you mean Str$, not CHR$ as the number 1 doesnt come in till quite late in the table! Regards -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 12:23:42 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 12:23:41 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00242 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:23:40 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12319 for amos-out; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12311 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA29178 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (204.186.168.56) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:32:03 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Global Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:44:46 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: >> Yes, your last point is especially interesting. In a large program, >> repeating the same variable declarations numberous times could >> indeed use a lot of the source and it makes little sense. Just make >> them Globals and all procedures can access them. > But that is generally considered A Bad Thing (TM). Ideally, you > should use hardly any Global variables. My experiences are more > in the C/C++/Java line, but they do hold true in AMOS as well. Well, I won't disagree with that, using Globals does allow more room for error. However, with AMOS (and an action oriented project) you need to do everything you can to extract that last bit of speed. Also, using Globals is not that difficult (although, it can be a bit of a mess to have a pile of Global declarations). You can't adhere to every limitation "they" want you to, if we stopped doing everything that was considered A Bad Thing, there wouldn't be much left that we could do. Some things are just obviously wrong and others are just a necessity due to the environment. :-) > Which reminds me: Java is superior to AMOS. That's a very difficult comparison to make as the two languages are very different in both design and goal. Last week I took a quick web-based "Introduction To Java" class (offered free by IBM - gasp!) and it looks quite interesting. I was surprised to find that Java can be used for non Internet projects (Applications) as well as Applets. This is something you never seem to hear. Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 14:37:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 14:37:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13843 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:37:34 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17972 for amos-out; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17965 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19961 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20638 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1998 18:20:27 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 23 Apr 1998 18:20:27 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.122]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA34670; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:20:25 +0200 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:32:44 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: your mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id OAA17966 Status: O X-Status: On 23-Apr-98, Scooter D. Matott sXe smashed the keyboard with: > > >> I want a program to randomly select tracker modules to play from >> one directory. >> The modules are named only with numbers from 1 to 30. >> >> How can that be done? >> > Piece of Cake, > > MOD_TO_LOAD=rand(30)+1 > load chr$(Mod_To_Load),20 > Track Play 20 > The only trick is chr$ which converts your random > number to a text string so you can load a file > with it's name. If this makes no sense let me know. > That won't work, you have to do: MOD=Rnd(29)+1 Track Load Str$(MOD)-" ",20 Track Play 20 (You might wanna replace the 'Track Load' and 'Track Play' with commands from an extension) -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ / / / /\ \ \ \ \ / \ / \__ _\ __ \ __ \/ ____/ __ /_ __/ +O-----------------------O+ / / / / / / /\ \ \ \ \ \ | aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN | \ \ \ \_\ \ ___\/ /___/ __ / / / | (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) | / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ \ +-------------------------+ \_\ \_____\_\ /_____/_/ /_/ /_/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -++- AMIGA -++- SOFTWARE -++- AMOS -++- AQUA -++- STAR TREK TNG -++- Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/' The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/' The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If a program is useful, it must be changed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 11:13:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 11:13:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12654 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:13:01 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07319 for amos-out; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07316 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08048 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:53:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from mail.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.82]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA131 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:57:54 -0600 Received: from ccMail by mail.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 00015BD0; Thu, 23 Apr 98 08:51:36 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:40:06 -0600 Message-ID: <00015BD0.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re[2]: [AMOSList] (Off Topic) - Amigaguide & Multiview To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id KAA07317 Status: O X-Status: Thanks......I didn't realise they were on the Extras disk. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [AMOSList] (Off Topic) - Amigaguide & Multiview Author: "Pierre Neel" (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) at Internet Date: 23/04/98 08:32 Declan_Gorman@RemoveThisPart.modusmedia.com a écrit dans le message <353c5e1d.0@news.redrose.net>... > > I am trying to find a copy of both Amigaguide and Multiview but cannot > find anything on Aminet, apart from accessories for both. Can someone > help me out and send me a copy of each. Thanks in advance. > > Declan. > Get them from your Workbench/Extras floppies ! They are copyrighted materials. Pierre Neel pierre.neel@hol.fr -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 17:28:35 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 23 17:28:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05290 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:28:34 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA28728 for amos-out; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28723 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.enterprise.net (mail.enterprise.net [194.72.192.20]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14182 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from enterprise.net (nobody@ppp337.enterprise.net [194.72.196.83]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA06297 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:03:06 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Crowe Reply-To: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:03:02 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Manta Soft Subject: Re[2]: your mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: >> I want a program to randomly select tracker modules to play from >> one directory. >> The modules are named only with numbers from 1 to 30. >> >> How can that be done? >> >Piece of Cake, >MOD_TO_LOAD=rand(30)+1 >load chr$(Mod_To_Load),20 >Track Play 20 >The only trick is chr$ which converts your random >number to a text string so you can load a file >with it's name. If this makes no sense let me know. I don't think that code will work :( Its the right idea but it isn't coded right For a start it has to be Rnd(29)+1 for 1-30 and you have to use 'Track load' when loading standard tracker mods. Track Load also needs to have the full dir name as well (eg. Dir$+"5"). 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Use this little routine: ============================= CUT HERE ============================== NUMBERMOD=Int(Rnd(29))+1 NAMEMOD$=Right$(Str$(NUMBERMOD),Len(Str$(NUMBERMOD))-1) Track Load NAMEMOD$,5 Track Play 5 ============================= CUT HERE ============================== ###### ###### ###### #### ### ## ###### +===== Brains@SETNet.co.yu =====+ ###### ###### ###### ## ###### ##### + Brains Software * A1200 Power + ##### ## ## ## ## #### ## ## ##### +=== Member of: Team *AMIGA* ===+ ... Single tasking? Just say no! --- Blue Wave v2.01 AmyBW [NR] From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 24 04:09:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 24 04:09:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12454 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:09:09 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA08518 for amos-out; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08515 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA19942 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 02:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8595 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1998 06:55:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp12-32.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.96) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 24 Apr 1998 06:55:12 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00tuv; Fri, 24 Apr 98 00:10:50 GMT Message-Id: <9804240010.AA00tuu@mushypd.desupernet.net> Reply-To: Mushroom PD Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:10:49 X-Mailer: MPDMailpostV2b by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpostV2b multi-personell mailer program X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer X-Format: 106/298=55796003+6076P From: Mushroom PD (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: MPD Announcement: About MPD Report Delay Status: O X-Status: Just a quick message to those who have been wondering why the MPD report has been delayed. I am working on the report, its a little bigger than expected. I also have a few other things to do at the same time, which are taking up quite a bit of time. I should have it ready and out within the next 10 days. The homepages listings will also be updated, as lots of you have been asking about the pages being abandoned. This isnt true, ive been a little bit pre-occupied. If you wish to see some new stuff, you can always FTP into /pub/amos/incoming/ and take a look at some of the things waiting to be listed. If your AMOS work isnt in there, then why not upload it! The server is mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org and you should log in as anonymous. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 24 04:36:47 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 24 04:36:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA23236 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:36:46 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA08589 for amos-out; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08586 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA01538 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11380 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1998 07:07:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp12-32.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.96) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 24 Apr 1998 07:07:42 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00v09; Fri, 24 Apr 98 00:27:51 GMT Message-Id: <9804240027.AA00v08@mushypd.desupernet.net> Reply-To: Mushroom PD Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:27:50 X-Mailer: MPDMailpostV2b by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpostV2b multi-personell mailer program X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer X-Format: 106/298=56391918+6374P From: Mushroom PD (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: MPD Announcement: Mushroom PD Goes to the 5th Dimension..... Status: O X-Status: Mushroom PD has now signed up to start distributing 5th Dimension titles in the USA, as well as F1. This makes Mushroom PD one of the largest Licenseware distributors in America. All titles in both software ranges are sold at quality prices that everyone can afford, and we cater for all kinds of software, such as games, utilities, childrens programs & more! While I await my master disks, I have set up a webpage with some information, and a selection of demo programs to download and try immediately. The URL for the page is: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/5d/index.html Feel free to download and spread all of the demo's to whoever you want. Some of the demo's have screenshots readily available. You can choose to download via HTTP or FTP to suit your own needs. I have an FTP server of my own in which you can log into to download. Simply log into mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org as anonymous, and go into /pub/ware5d/ and download to your heart's content! As soon as my master disks arrive, I shall send another mail out. In the meantime, if you have any questions, you can email me at mushypd@redrose.net or call me at home on (717) 367 6210. All demo's will also be made available on the Tusk BBS in the next day or so. Thank-you Andy "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 24 13:37:46 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 24 13:37:46 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18224 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:37:45 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA27591 for amos-out; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27588 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.iol.ie (mail2.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.193]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10277 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GPO.iol.ie (root@GPO2.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.197]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03176 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:18:32 +0100 Received: from iol.ie (cahill4@dialup-134.dublin.iol.ie [194.125.41.134]) by GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA00323 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:18:30 +0100 From: Peter Cahill To: The Amos List Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:18:42 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: The black screen bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA27589 Status: O X-Status: Hi, I found out some more stuff 'bout that new black screen bug in AMOS2.1(pietros new library). Ive got a BlizZard 030@50 16Meg fast. If I reboot and when WB loads up, if I run AMOS WITHOUT opening and windows on WB, The black screen comes up. But If I load wb and open 1 window close the window, then loads amos it works ! Normally you do have to open windows to load amos, but Ive got amos in my WB menu. Could some other people try this and see if AMOS hangs or is it just me ;} cya, -- \ \ | / \ \ _\ __/ / \ | \ / __/ \ \/ / / \_ \__ ¶ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ /^^\ (^^) | / \__ \ LPPPPPPPO {Z¯¯C} (TT¯¯O)|/ pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE \_\ LP PÐ {Z C} (TO O) gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES LP PO {Z C} (O o aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG LP PO {Z O} (O sUPPORT aS wELL aS gIVING LOOOOo/ {AXXXXXXOO} (O \_ aMOS mUCH fASTER bOBS, /|LI {AXXXXXXXXX!} (O o| \ sPRITES aND aLL tHE / /OO {/ !} (O C) \ \ oTHER kEWL THINGS lIKE / ¯ / |/ {/ !} (TO C) | \__cDDA aND uNCRACKABLE /¯/¯¯/ C/ /A} (¿¿¿) \ \ mEMORY bANK / / \ | eNCYRPTION tHAT ¯ / cAHILL4@iOL.iE \ \ aNY cODER cOULD / http://www.iol.ie/~cahill4/peter/index.html \ \ eVER aSK fOR !! / | \ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 24 16:29:09 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Apr 24 16:29:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08652 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:29:09 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA04977 for amos-out; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04974 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18758 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17095 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:10:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA19933 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:08:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA28071 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:08:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:08:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Subject: Str$, chr$, asc(), ect... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hey, Sorry for my bum advice on the random MOD loader, remembering syntax has never really been my forte I guess, anyway thanks to the list for covering for me on that one. :) Thanks, Scott Matott sXe From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 01:20:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 01:20:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10490 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:20:31 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA11578 for amos-out; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:35:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11575 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA25990 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7527 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1998 05:37:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp12-44.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.108) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 25 Apr 1998 05:37:33 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00vqx; Sat, 25 Apr 98 01:34:21 GMT Date: Sat, 25 Apr 98 01:34:21 GMT Message-Id: <9804250134.AA00vqw@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: tmg296@iona.ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tristan Greaves) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Global Status: O X-Status: Garfield Benjamin (gbenjam@RemoveThisPart.sosbbs.com) wrote: : > Which reminds me: Java is superior to AMOS. : That's a very difficult comparison to make as the two languages : are very different in both design and goal. Last week I took a : quick web-based "Introduction To Java" class (offered free by : IBM - gasp!) and it looks quite interesting. I was surprised to find : that Java can be used for non Internet projects (Applications) as : well as Applets. This is something you never seem to hear. They aren't *that* dissimilar. For example, one of Java's goals is to make some tasks that are complicated under other languages a lot easier. Take GUI creation, for example. Doing that under C/C++ isn't that flexible or particular fun. Under Java, all these functions are internal and easy to use. You can build up GUIs extremely easily and with a lot of power. The way they are formed is object-orientated, in a similar way to MUI. This is similar to AMOS allowing to open screens, change palettes, move objects etc with single commands, rather than having to hit the hardware nastily. I'd recommend you take a look at the language, although resource-wise it isn't particular viable on a typical Amiga. Tris. --- Tristan Greaves. Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton. -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 26 08:19:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Apr 26 08:19:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05824 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 08:19:37 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA16902 for amos-out; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 08:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16899 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 08:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.netwave.net (mail.netwave.net [207.112.132.11]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01142 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 08:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pppsrs4.netwave.net (pppsrs4.netwave.net [209.100.37.4]) by mail.netwave.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA08824; Sun, 26 Apr 1998 06:19:36 -0500 Date: 24 Apr 98 20:45:49 -0500 From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" Subject: Re: The black screen bug To: "Peter Cahill" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1337.418T2492T12454369@netwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Peter Cahill digitized on 24-Apr-98 01:18:42: PC> Hi, PC> I found out some more stuff 'bout that new black screen bug PC> in AMOS2.1(pietros new library). Ive got a BlizZard 030@50 PC> 16Meg fast. PC> If I reboot and when WB loads up, if I run AMOS WITHOUT opening PC> and windows on WB, The black screen comes up. But If I load wb PC> and open 1 window close the window, then loads amos it works ! PC> Normally you do have to open windows to load amos, but Ive got PC> amos in my WB menu. Could some other people try this and see if PC> AMOS hangs or is it just me ;} By George, I think you've got it!!! I use DOpus in workbench replacement mode. I guess a Lister or a Group isn't enough window. Once I opened an application on the WB first, voila! But I'm using an A500 with OS 2.1 while I'm awaiting the return of my 3.1 A3K, so I'll have to try again when... Greets, - Rand -- ______ ________________________ //// | _ \ _____ ___ __ _____ mailto:rand@netwave.net //// | [_} )(___ \ ( \ | ( _ \ http://www.netwave.net/members/rand | _ ( / __ \ | \| | |_} ) //// |__| \___)(_______(__|\____(_____/ \\\\//// "We can't afford to die here... not even once" -- Bashir From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 01:02:55 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 01:02:54 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09787 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:02:53 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA11553 for amos-out; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11550 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.globalserve.net (smtp1.globalserve.net [209.90.144.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA28776 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from globalserve.net (@dialin3.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.3]) by smtp1.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA11707 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:10:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199804250510.BAA11707@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:09:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: AMOS List Subject: Gui V1.70 TCP Commands Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: I was wondering, has any new documentation been made on the Gui Extension V1.70 TCP commands? I've noticed now 'Tcp Send$' requires three variables, but I have no idea what the third is. -That's all... ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic -*Still Under Reconstruction*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress: Totally reprogramming Sheepfest ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 10:19:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 10:19:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20152 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:19:05 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12322 for amos-out; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12319 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08037 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 129 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1998 14:02:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.108) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 25 Apr 1998 14:02:45 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Ryan Watson CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:00:06 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199804250510.BAA11707@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Gui V1.70 TCP Commands MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello Ryan > I was wondering, has any new documentation been made on the Gui Extension > V1.70 TCP commands? > I've noticed now 'Tcp Send$' requires three variables, but I have no idea > what the third is. > -That's all... The TCP Documentation is in the archive on my homepage. I was waiting for Giark to do some examples, which is why it wasnt in the previous archives. Regards Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 10:38:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 10:38:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26589 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:38:57 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12327 for amos-out; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:12:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12324 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-06-42.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.42]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10245 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:12:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp4-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.53]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA03334 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:11:54 -0500 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:11:36 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199804250510.BAA11707@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Gui V1.70 TCP Commands MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 25-Apr-98, Ryan Watson wrote: >I was wondering, has any new documentation been made on the Gui Extension >V1.70 TCP commands? Not yet. I've got a query to Pietro for more info on the new ones, but he's not replied as of yet. >I've noticed now 'Tcp Send$' requires three variables, but I have no idea >what the third is. Me either. I hadn't noticed that change. I'll have to go through the prgs that Pietro included and see what I can piece together from them. I'm still working on them, however. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 12:02:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 12:02:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05706 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 12:02:27 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12581 for amos-out; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 12:18:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12578 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 12:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.globalserve.net (smtp1.globalserve.net [209.90.144.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20967 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 12:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from globalserve.net (@dialin13.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.13]) by smtp1.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18828 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 12:19:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199804251619.MAA18828@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:18:44 -0600 (MDT) From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: AMOS List Subject: GUI Extension Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Okay, I've figured out what happened. And I'm not totally sure as to go around it. Basically, I have a prog that I try to connect to a mud with, the problem occurs with using Tcp Line, because sometimes you'll get prompts that won't go to the next line, and then I can't even send, is there any better way to do this? -Thanks in advance... ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic -*Still Under Reconstruction*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress: Totally reprogramming Sheepfest ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 11:17:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Apr 25 11:17:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00465 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 11:17:11 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12381 for amos-out; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 11:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12378 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 11:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BBS.cu-muc.de (BBS.cu-muc.de [195.38.157.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA13646 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 11:06:04 -0400 (EDT) X-ROUTED: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:05:12 -0100 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Platon Received: from cu-muc.de [195.38.157.114] by BBS.cu-muc.de with smtp id BBAECCFA ; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:04:34 -0100 From: Chris Hodges To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 14:57:07 EST5 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: GUI Phoowee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id LAA12379 Status: O X-Status: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au wrote on 29-Mär-98: > You know how DigiView has Dyanmic Hires, and Dynamic Ham, how is that done? Palette (16 cols) is changed on every raster line. > I read somewhere you can poke or doke a memory location and make a > looping sample change pitch, anyone know how to do this? Procedure SAMPSPEED[KANAL,FREQ] RATE=3579545/FREQ For A=0 To 3 If Btst(A,KANAL) Then Doke $DFF0A6+A*16,RATE Next End Proc > Anyone heard of a Workbench proggie called FastBlitter? I read about it > in Amiga Format, but as I can`t read the CD-ROM just now (I`ll get one > soon) I couldn`t check ROM for it. Yes. Nice proggy :) But now I don't need it anymore. -- Regards, Chris Hodges (http://platon.home.pages.de) __ __ A4000TE/60, 42MB, 3.6GB HD, CD, ZIP, CV64, FliFix __ /// / / _____ GCS d s-:+>: a21 C+++>$ U*++ P L E---- W++ N+> \\\/// / /_/ ___/ LOGOUT K- w----- M- ?V PS+ PE Y++ PGP++ t++ 5+++ X++ \XX/ \__/ __/ FASCISM! R tv- b++ DI? D-- G+ e++>+++* h! !r--- !y+ AMIGA RULEZ! \/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 04:05:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 04:05:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08694 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 04:05:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA21634 for amos-out; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 04:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21631 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 04:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22100 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 04:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:52:15 +0100 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 27 Apr 98 08:59:04 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 27 Apr 98 08:58:59 GMT+0 From: Lee Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:58:46 GMT+0 Subject: Amos Robots. Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <5628CA06C4@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: RO X-Status: After an easter break of doing project writeups insanely and just a slight bit of coding later: Has anyone got some source or ideas/tips on writing a text editor? ALSO: For the Amos Robots thing (I'v got 4 robots running round the screen shooting each other) I have reached the bit that is the Amos Compiler, I'v written the main game bit, preprocessor and assembler, now theres just the Amos compiler. Since I am writing a compiler I thought I might as well carry on and complete a fully blown Amos compiler which would produce code in much the same way a C compiler would do it. Now I need to know some stuff: Is the amos.library a linked or shared thing? How are Amos sources stored to a file? Whats the Amos startup code look like, and what sort of environment does it set up? Sizya. ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Its just a big egg pie! ________________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 17:32:30 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 17:32:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26771 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:32:28 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16972 for amos-out; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16969 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18222 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc16.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.16]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id VAA20480 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:46:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1978 03:50:53 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Some Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hello. I dident get any responce on my last mail exept for some folx that wanted my diskmag and thats nice, but i stil have alot of unansvered questions. here is some old and some new ones that i need help with. 1. have you seen the game, Worms? Well if you know then you might have seen the cool effect that flips the menu bar around so the next weapons come up. Well i wanna do this rutine for my next issue of my Diskmag, so i can have two menu bars and flip between them. Any idea to how this should be done in Amos??? 2. Some guy's complained on my diskmag, becoz it was written in Amos, and when they tryed to run it from boot witout startupsequence they got a Amos requester asking for ENV, why is this happening and is there a way to fix this??? 3. Is there a way to get a regular wb requester similar to the one you get if you are in Wb and take out a disk while loading to pop up if something is wrong instead of the Amos Requester????? 4. Well this one is a bit of topic, but is there a way to pack a EXE file and use a code so no one can unpack the exe file. Is there a packer that lets me do this??? 5. When i'am running my diskmag and flip to Workbench my diskmag still takes up 100% of the cpu, and if i'am in wb and foreksample press f1 it changes the module. Is there a way to get my program to not take 100% of the cpu when i multitasks to WB, and that the program doesent change anything if i press the keys on the keyboard while i'am in Wb?? 6. And this one i seem NEWER to get a ansver to: IS IT POSSIBLE TO USE 32 COL SCREEN IN HIRES AND BE ABLE TO SET UP ZONES ON IT AND SO ON WITH GUI CLONE? A SIMLE YES OR NO PLEEEEEZZZ!!!!!!!!! Oki, i'll hope i get some ansvers Pleezz, or i'll keep sending to someone is so tierd of my nagging that tey finally respond. Morten Bolstad. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 15:13:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 15:13:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22714 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:13:32 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13424 for amos-out; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13417 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13435 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2000619; 27 Apr 98 18:08 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Morten Bolstad , Amos List Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:33:16 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: Morten's Disk Mag Probs (was:Amos Questions) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: This message arrived in my mail box: Date: Wednesday 21-Jun-78 Time: 21:05:45 Name: Morten Bolstad Subject: Amos Questions So here's a reply... Hi there Morten, >Hello! >Have you seen the game Worms?? Yeah! Who hasn't by now? >Well i wanna make the same rutine that flips the menu bar in Worms around >to the next menu in Amos for my next issue of my Diskmag Yeah, it's aa neat effect and very kewl looking. >any idea abouth how i should do this in Amos??? Why don't you just do a simple animation of the two screens required. One rotating into the other, hold this anim in a bank and then display the anim when the user clicks on the button which is used to display the other menu screen? Then, when the anim is finished, simply unpack the screen to display it. eg... Screen 1 holds 1st panel 1 (menu) screen 7 reserved for anim screen 2 holds second panel 2 (menu) So when user clicks on the menu panel 1 screen zone, unpack panel 2 to screen 2 and HIDE it from view. Then show the anim via screen 7 over the top of screen 1. Play the anim once only, then simply show screen 2 over the top of screen 7. Close screen 7 to save some memory now. Your second panel should now be shown and it'll look like a neat effect. Obviously before you create the anim in DPaint (or whatever), you must already have both panels drawn so you get the correct sizes and colours. Best to have both panels using the same colours each too. I know DPaint V can display anims with different palettes in each frame, but I don't think Amos can.....yet! (Pietro, any chance of this feature being added?) I hope this has helped to give you some ideas to mess about with... Either that or you'll have to do some real coding to flip the screens a bit at a time and knowing Amos, it'll probably be slow and jerky! Unless anyone can prove me wrong?..... Oh yeah Morten, please send a copy o your diskmag to zYX/A51. He'll FTP it to the A51 FTP site. In fact, why not just FTP it directly yourself? I'm sure we told you the details, if you need more info, email me direct (or zYX) and we'll tell you how to do it. If anyone else out there has yet to see previous issues of Morten's disk mag, go get the first two issues from him now. TTFN. Andy Gibson -- Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions (aka SKiDZ/A51) email: andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk web : http://www.agasinc.demon.co.uk From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 09:17:53 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 09:17:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15620 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:17:51 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA24058 for amos-out; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24055 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (vtn1.victoria.tc.ca [199.60.222.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11651 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uv334@localhost) by vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17917; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:18:29 -0700 (PDT) From: John Bintz X-Sender: uv334@vtn1 Reply-To: John Bintz To: Amos List Subject: QQT/AVI ripper Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Only slightly off subject...does anyone know of a shareware program that will rip frames and audio from a QT or AVI file? 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Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca * @#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@# Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software! http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html *#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*# From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 13:02:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 13:02:43 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02431 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:02:43 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06895 for amos-out; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06892 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us [204.194.39.250]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06382 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (fer007@localhost) by fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA24944 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:04:14 -0400 (EDT) From: fernando Bartra To: AMOS Subject: porting amos games to pc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: just found this great book hat can help you port amos games to the pc. Is called windows 95 games programming, and the book rocks. It contains a cd with los of shareware/freeware tools that makecoding a pc game a snap. It explains how to easily(with a coup[le of c comands-kind of like amos) load/display avi anims,movie clips,images,digitized sound, routines for joystick,etc and also has 3 complete games all with the code and walkthru explanations of everything. I am pretty sure if you make amos games this book can help you port them to the pc, I got the book cuz it fit my needs, but i wont be coding for a while anyway cuz im learning lightwave 3d now,so that later i can make my own anims for my game. windows 95 game programming, by Trujillo an Stevens. Rednova From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 16:35:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 16:35:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15735 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:35:07 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14716 for amos-out; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14713 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAB11598 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:47:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p58-pochard-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.68.118]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAC11841 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:47:22 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 27 Apr 98 19:45:33 +0100 Subject: Dbl Pal Lowres Message-Id: <3544E05D.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: ANother question on Dbl Pal... Does a lowres Dbl Pal screen look the same as a normal lowres screen? e.g. is it the same resolution approx 320x256 ? Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From CloseUp@Spin.com.mx Mon Apr 27 15:24:25 1998 >From CloseUp@Spin.com.mx Mon Apr 27 15:24:24 1998 Received: from amadeus.spin.com.mx (amadeus.spin.com.mx [200.12.165.19]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07226 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spin.com.mx (CloseUP@orion03.spin.com.mx [200.13.80.68]) by amadeus.spin.com.mx (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12018 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:25:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:25:39 -0500 (CDT) From: CloseUp@Spin.com.mx (Javier Delgadp) To: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: URL http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/aml.html Organization: CloseUp Producciones X-Mailer: Voyager/AmigaOS 2.95 (http://www.vapor.com/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <35449884.C345.C9F2.CloseUp@Spin.com.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O X-Status: SUBSCRIBE amos-list JavierD@CloseUp.com.mx From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 18:25:32 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 18:25:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17898 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:25:12 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25465 for amos-out; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25462 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20508 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm1-52.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-52.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.116]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA02407 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 23:57:00 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 27 Apr 98 23:48:16 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: Dbl Pal Lowres To: "Alastair Murray" In-Reply-To: <3544E05D.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: <874.421T823T14282956@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Alastair Murray (malcolm.murray@virgin.net) wrote: >ANother question on Dbl Pal... >Does a lowres Dbl Pal screen look the same as a normal lowres screen? >e.g. is it the same resolution approx 320x256 ? Yep, only difference between PAL and DBLPAL is the latter have the option of a no-flickering mode. Oh, and the Khz scanrate...but PAL:LOWRES and DBLPAL:LOWRES is for all intents and purposes the same. --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- I'll try anything once, twice if I like it, three times to make sure. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 20:41:23 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 20:41:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14787 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:41:22 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA28215 for amos-out; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28212 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA08565 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:48:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13344 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1998 23:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.254.199) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 27 Apr 1998 23:50:14 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Morten Bolstad CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:47:16 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Some Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello Morten > Hello. > I dident get any responce on my last mail exept for some folx that wanted > my diskmag and thats nice, but i stil have alot of unansvered questions. > here is some old and some new ones that i need help with. > 1. have you seen the game, Worms? > Well if you know then you might have seen the cool effect that flips > the menu bar around so the next weapons come up. > Well i wanna do this rutine for my next issue of my Diskmag, so i can have > two menu bars and flip between them. > Any idea to how this should be done in Amos??? I haven`y played worms, so wouldn't know the effect > 2. Some guy's complained on my diskmag, becoz it was written in Amos, and when > they tryed to run it from boot witout startupsequence they got a Amos > requester asking for ENV, why is this happening and is there a way to fix > this??? assign ENV: Ram: Run diskmag > 3. Is there a way to get a regular wb requester similar to the one you get if > you are in Wb and take out a disk while loading to pop up if something > is wrong instead of the Amos Requester????? I think there is a command in the Requetser extension, something like Req to WB, it turns AMOS requesters into WB requesters (If AMOS is to back, that is). > 4. Well this one is a bit of topic, but is there a way to pack a EXE file and > use a code so no one can unpack the exe file. > Is there a packer that lets me do this??? It depends, are you trying to run the file also? > 5. When i'am running my diskmag and flip to Workbench my diskmag still takes > up 100% of the cpu, and if i'am in wb and foreksample press f1 it changes > the module. > Is there a way to get my program to not take 100% of the cpu when i > multitasks to WB, and that the program doesent change anything if i press > the keys on the keyboard while i'am in Wb?? Hmm, it shouldn't do that if amos is to back. To stop the delay, use a Multi Wait in your loops. This will free up some WB time, but not all. For a more optimum effect, convert it to GUI extension. Extreme AMOS 4 will be using it, and so far it looks pretty spiffing. > 6. And this one i seem NEWER to get a ansver to: IS IT POSSIBLE TO USE 32 COL > SCREEN IN HIRES AND BE ABLE TO SET UP ZONES ON IT AND SO ON WITH GUI CLONE? > A SIMLE YES OR NO PLEEEEEZZZ!!!!!!!!! I guess, but not with zones directly, you will have to use some math to check the position of the pointer. The hires 32 can only be acheived in AGA, as ECS can only open 16 cols. I had to change the MLM software to use 16 col screens in order to work on an A600. I could be wrong tho. Regards Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 20:14:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Apr 27 20:14:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16645 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:14:03 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA28232 for amos-out; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28229 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:53:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20059 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm1-48.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-48.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.112]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA08344 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:52:37 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 28 Apr 98 01:47:50 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: Some Questions To: "Morten Bolstad" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2559.422T2517T1075246@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Morten Bolstad (mortenbo@login.eunet.no) wrote: >1. have you seen the game, Worms? Of course. > Well if you know then you might have seen the cool effect that flips > the menu bar around so the next weapons come up. > Well i wanna do this rutine for my next issue of my Diskmag, so i can have > two menu bars and flip between them. Any idea to how this should be done > in Amos??? Not flipping really, but one could use three screens. One at the top that's used for the main display (where the worms are in Worms) and two smaller ones below (same size on those two). When they're supposed to flip, use Screen display to move one up and the other down (in a for...next loop for example). Not exactly the above perhaps but one idea that popped up. >2. Some guy's complained on my diskmag, becoz it was written in Amos, and >when they tryed to run it from boot witout startupsequence they got a Amos >requester asking for ENV, why is this happening and is there a way to fix >this??? If not exists("env:") then assign "env:" to "ram:" Should solve that. >5. When i'am running my diskmag and flip to Workbench my diskmag still takes > up 100% of the cpu, and if i'am in wb and foreksample press f1 it changes > the module. Is there a way to get my program to not take 100% of the cpu > when i multitasks to WB, and that the program doesent change anything if > i press the keys on the keyboard while i'am in Wb?? Don't know how your main loop is constructed but you could try the following example and adapt it to your needs: Do test=Amos Here ; (Test=-1 if AMOS is the front screen, otherwise 0) if test=-1 a$=inkey$ if a$="1" print "1" endif endif multi wait loop Note: This works in Amos Pro 2.0, interpreted and compiled. >6. And this one i seem NEWER to get a ansver to: IS IT POSSIBLE TO USE 32 COL > SCREEN IN HIRES AND BE ABLE TO SET UP ZONES ON IT AND SO ON WITH GUI > CLONE? A SIMLE YES OR NO PLEEEEEZZZ!!!!!!!!! I would say: No. The command for opening screens isn't designed with AGA in mind. ECS/OCS screens does not support more than 16 colors in hires. --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- Multitasking?? But I only have one PC! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 17:33:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 17:33:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12480 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:33:28 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15561 for amos-out; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15558 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07572 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by riverside.mr.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13345 at Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:01:44 -0500 (CDT) SMTP "HELO" = students.nwc.edu But _really_ from eagle.nwc.edu [199.86.79.248] SMTP "MAIL FROM" = .mpness.users.nwc@students.nwc.edu SMTP "RCPT TO" = Received: from CEDAR/SpoolDir by students.nwc.edu (Mercury 1.40); 28 Apr 98 13:01:32 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by CEDAR (Mercury 1.40); 28 Apr 98 13:00:43 -0500 Received: from Unknown (199.86.79.141) by students.nwc.edu (Mercury 1.40); 28 Apr 98 13:00:36 -0500 From: "Michael Paul Ness" <.mpness.users.nwc@students.nwc.edu> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:00:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Speed! Priority: normal Message-ID: <1ADB2B6A2E@students.nwc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello all, I'm currently trying to figure out how to creat an AMOS game which will run at a decent spped on all Amigas. I currently have an A2000 with an old 68000 7MHz cpu so my programs run quite slow, but the speed is adiquite. If, however, I try to run the game on an '030 or '060 the game play is far too fast. Is there any way around this? Basically how do I slow down games on faster processors and still retain the speed needed on slower ones? Thanx, Michael Michael Ness mpness@eagle.nwc.edu A proud supporter of Amiga comuters everywhere! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 04:23:40 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 04:23:40 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02564 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:23:39 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA01398 for amos-out; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 03:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01395 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 03:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA15158 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 03:40:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from mail.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.82]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA149 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:45:26 -0600 Received: from ccMail by mail.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0001C6C1; Tue, 28 Apr 98 01:38:25 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:29:35 -0600 Message-ID: <0001C6C1.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re[2]: Some Questions To: Morten Bolstad , Andy Kellett Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: >> 3. Is there a way to get a regular wb requester similar to the one >>you get if you are in Wb and take out a disk while loading to pop up >>if something is wrong instead of the Amos Requester????? >>I think there is a command in the Requetser extension, something >>like Req to WB, it turns AMOS requesters into WB requesters (If AMOS >>is to back, that is). This is documented in the AMOSPro manual and I think it is called WB Req and to return to the AMOS requester I think it is AMOS Req. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 19:01:18 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 19:01:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27622 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:01:15 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA20093 for amos-out; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20090 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-05-238.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.238]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15484 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-08-123.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.123]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA09255 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:15:01 -0500 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:31:10 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: GUI? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: What is wrong with this code? It breaks at the Gui Screen Open command with the error in line 19. That's a big help. Someone try it and see what happens. Gui Amiga 1 _GET_SCREEN: A=Gui Asl Screen If A=-1 Then B=Gui Req("AMOS V3.00","Select a screen mode, Pal!","Alright already!") : Goto _GET_SCREEN CHECK_COLOURS: C=Gui Asl Colours If C<16 Then B=Gui Req("AMOS V3.00","At least 16 colours, Bubba!","Alright already!") : Goto _GET_SCREEN CHECK_WIDTH: W=Gui Asl Width If W<640 Then B=Gui Req("AMOS V3.00","At least 640 wide, Dipstick!","Alright already!") : Goto _GET_SCREEN H=Gui Asl Height Gui Screen Open 1,W,H,C,A Wait 240 Gui Screen Close A Gui Amos End Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 22:07:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 22:07:17 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27858 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:07:16 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29562 for amos-out; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:21:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29559 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oznet14.ozemail.com.au (oznet14.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.120]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23330 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from archie (per1-102.space.net.au [203.38.10.152]) by oznet14.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA24970; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:21:31 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35467266.7BA@ozemail.com.au> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:20:54 +0800 From: "Andy H." Organization: GeoSync Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Paul Ness <.mpness.users.nwc@students.nwc.edu> CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Speed! References: <1ADB2B6A2E@students.nwc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi Michael, > Basically how do I slow down games on faster processors and still > retain the speed needed on slower ones? > Put a little loop at the bottom of your main loop which checks the Timer function. Repeat Timer=0 TX: If Timer<2 : Goto TX: End If Until This will make sure not matter what speed the CPU is, the timer will always dictate the speed of the game loop. The Timer will always run at the same speed on all CPU`s. With AMOS you wont get a game loop to run faster than 2vbls anyway, but that`s a silky smooth 25fps(PAL) or 30fps(NTSC). Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 22:08:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 22:08:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01092 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:08:14 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29886 for amos-out; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29883 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [195.8.135.242]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28602 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr00.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.200]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA03377; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:28:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-04-2-17.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.138.114]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id CAA23697; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:28:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Palle Anker Larsen Reply-To: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk To: "Mr. Giark To You" , Amos-List Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:26:23 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Subject: Re: GUI? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.141072408.1" Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. --BOUNDARY.141072408.1 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Mr G!! Den 28-Apr-98 wrote Mr. Giark To You: MGTY> What is wrong with this code? It breaks at the Gui Screen Open command with MGTY> the error in line 19. That's a big help. Someone try it and see what happens. Yes, you try to close the wrong screen. MGTY> Gui Screen Open 1,W,H,C,A ^ Here you open screen 1 MGTY> Wait 240 MGTY> Gui Screen Close A And here you close screen A. Simply change A with 1 and it works ;) I've included a working example of you'r code ;). -- Best Wishes Palle. Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice. -- James P. Hogan --BOUNDARY.141072408.1 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="test.amos" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="test.amos" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 QU1PUyBCYXNpYyBWMTM0IAAAAqYIAQBOGAEAgAA+AAAAAQAACwEADAAADABfZ2V0X3NjcmVl bgAAAAoBAAYAAAIAYQD/ogBOGAAEqgAARQECvgCCAAYAAAIAYQD/ov/KAD4AAAABAsYABgAG AgBiAP+iAE4YAwFQAHQAJgAKQU1PUyBWMy4wMABcACYAGlNlbGVjdCBhIHNjcmVlbiBtb2Rl LCBQYWwhAFwAJgAPQWxyaWdodCBBTFJFQURZAAB8AFQCqAAY/+4MAF9nZXRfc2NyZWVuAAAA CwEADAAADABjaGtfY29sb3VycwAAAAoBAAYADAIAYwD/ogBOGAAIZgAARQECvgCCAAYADAIA YwD/rAA+AAAAEALGAAYABgIAYgD/ogBOGAMBUAB0ACYACkFNT1MgVjMuMDAAXAAmABtBdCBs ZWFzdCAxNiBjb2xvdXJzLCBCdWJiYSEAAFwAJgAPQWxyaWdodCBBTFJFQURZAAB8AFQCqAAY /+4MAF9nZXRfc2NyZWVuAAAACgEADAAACgBjaGtfd2lkdGgAAAAKAgAGABICAHcA/6IAThgA CD4AAEUBAr4AggAGABICAHcA/6wAPgAAAoACxgAGAAYCAGIA/6IAThgDAVAAdAAmAApBTU9T IFYzLjAwAFwAJgAcQXQgbGVhc3QgNjQwIHdpZGUsIERpcHN0aWNrIQBcACYAD0FscmlnaHQg QUxSRUFEWQAAfABUAqgAGP/uDABfZ2V0X3NjcmVlbgAAAAoBAAYAGAIAaAD/ogBOGAAIUgAA HAEAThgFB64APgAAAAEAXAAGABICAHcAAFwABgAYAgBoAABcAAYADAIAYwAAXAAGAAACAGEA AAAGARKeAD4AAADwAAAIAQBOGAEH4gA+AAAAAQAABQEAThgAAJAAAAMBA7YAAAIAAABBbUJz AAA= --BOUNDARY.141072408.1-- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 22:23:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 28 22:23:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03487 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:23:49 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29960 for amos-out; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:53:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29957 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03793 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm1-43.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-43.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.107]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA07827 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:52:45 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 29 Apr 98 02:50:56 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: GUI? To: "Mr. Giark To You" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1243.423T2834T1705419@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Mr. Giark To You (giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org) wrote: >What is wrong with this code? It breaks at the Gui Screen Open command with >the error in line 19. That's a big help. Someone try it and see what happens. Works here, well most of the time. I got a weird error message once that said something like fiia at line 19...whatever that means. Well, I noticed one small error in your program but that's a part that it never had the chance to get to on your machine: >Gui Screen Open 1,W,H,C,A >Wait 240 >Gui Screen Close A Gui Screen Close 1, otherwise an error pops up. But from what I've experienced regarding my experiments with this extension, it doesn't seem to free up all memory it uses. There has been times when my chipmem have gone down to around 30 k free with no way of regaining it (oh, except the three-finger salute). --- What we don't like, we destroy. Reptal brains with lethal toys. Don't be concerned, don't bother at all. Amuse yourself with phenobarbitals. At the age of 80 in my rockingchair, I don't wanna think I didn't dare. --- If a stealth bomber crashes in a forest, will it make a sound? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 01:37:48 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 01:37:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15295 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 01:37:47 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA01958 for amos-out; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01955 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA24565 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126067.agonet.it [195.32.126.67]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA21868 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:50:17 +0200 From: Pietro Ghizzoni Reply-To: ghizzo@agonet.it To: Amos-List Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:56:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2559.422T2517T1075246@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Dairymen Soft Subject: Re[2]: Some Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello Jonas On 28-Apr-98, Jonas Thorell wrote: Re: Some Questions >> 6. And this one i seem NEWER to get a ansver to: IS IT POSSIBLE TO USE 32 COL >> SCREEN IN HIRES AND BE ABLE TO SET UP ZONES ON IT AND SO ON WITH GUI >> CLONE? A SIMLE YES OR NO PLEEEEEZZZ!!!!!!!!! > > I would say: No. The command for opening screens isn't designed with AGA in > mind. ECS/OCS screens does not support more than 16 colors in hires. Well... i would say yes :) You can use a hires 32 colours screens, the amos zones, and wait a key using 0% CPU power! Example: Screen Open 0,640,256,32,Lowres : Rem YES! Open it lowres! Gui Screen Open 1,640,256,32,Hires : Rem ...and the GUI Screen in Hires Gui Clone 1,True : Rem Voila'! A hires 32 colours promoted Amos screen! There isn't a relation between the GUI Screen resolution and the Amos resolution... the Amos bitmaps will be displayed trough the GUI Screen, and so if you want you can display the Amos screen in DblPal! Using the Amos zone is very easy... when you have cloned the screen, open a simple GUI with the same width and height of the screen, (use Gui Change) and activate the new Mouse Report function. The main loop will be very easy: Repeat A=Gui Wait : C=Gui Code If A=-12 : Rem The user has moved the mouse! XM=Gui Mouse Ux : YM=Gui Mouse Uy : Z=Zone(XM,YM) : Rem Check the Amos zones!!! Else If A=-5 A$=Chr$(C) : Rem A$=Key pressed! equivalent of inkey$... C=ASCII code EndIF Until A=-1 With these simple lines you can check the amos zones, and the key press using 0% CPU power! -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | Team AMIGA \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Professional Team Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ!! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 07:27:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 07:27:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17820 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:27:33 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA02540 for amos-out; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02537 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA19554 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Path: newsreader.digex.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!howland.erols.net!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!grek.demon.co.uk!Tom From: Tom Grek Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: AMOS-Compiling to Executable?? Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:27:24 +0100 Organization: Empire Records Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: grek.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: grek.demon.co.uk:193.237.95.57 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 893698475 nnrp-01:3947 NO-IDENT grek.demon.co.uk:193.237.95.57 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.04 <1x+38spxT1$S+7wL0jtnbM$QWH> Lines: 12 Xref: newsreader.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:128399 ReSent-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:04 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: O X-Status: I don't own an Amiga, but I used to be a big fan. Recently I downloaded Amos Pro 2 off Lazarus, as being a programmer and Amiga fan I would like to write games and give them to my girlfriend who owns an Amiga and is a massive fan. This would be done by taking the Compiled?? file, and using CrossDos to transfer it. However I don't have the AMOS manuals and can't figure out how to make an executable file from my source (which works in AMOS). Can anyone tell me how? From what I remember AMOS wasn't an interpreted language... -- Tom Grek Visit my web page: www.grek.demon.co.uk Lots of programming, electronics and general files. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 08:36:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 08:36:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06396 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:36:19 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA02545 for amos-out; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02542 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA19564 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Path: newsreader.digex.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!netnews.com!howland.erols.net!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!bmatthew.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: ben@bmatthew.demon.co.uk (Ben Matthew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: AMOS-Compiling to Executable?? Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:49:11 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <893785751.15718.0.nnrp-04.9e98dd27@news.demon.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: bmatthew.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: bmatthew.demon.co.uk:158.152.221.39 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 893785751 nnrp-04:15718 NO-IDENT bmatthew.demon.co.uk:158.152.221.39 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-NewsSoftware: GRn 2.1 Feb 19, 1994 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 45 Xref: newsreader.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:128432 ReSent-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:20 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: O X-Status: In article Tom Grek wrote: > I don't own an Amiga, but I used to be a big fan. Recently I downloaded > Amos Pro 2 off Lazarus, Amos Pro *2* ? Doesn't exist, presume you mean just Amos Pro. WTF the lazarus; I hope thats not a warez site.... AFAIK, Amos Pro is still a copyrighted commerical product. > as being a programmer and Amiga fan I would like > to write games and give them to my girlfriend who owns an Amiga and is a > massive fan. This would be done by taking the Compiled?? file, and using > CrossDos to transfer it. Why use cross-dos? The only reason you would need that is if you compiled the file using UAE on a PC, saved to the pc partition and then saved to an MS-DOS disk which would require cross-dos on the amiga to read it. Seems a bit long-winded. > However I don't have the AMOS manuals and can't > figure out how to make an executable file from my source AmosPro Compiler (another commerical product). (which works in > AMOS). Can anyone tell me how? From what I remember AMOS wasn't an > interpreted language... It sure is. By default the language is completely interpreted. But you can compile the sources using the stand-alone compiler package. 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From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 08:07:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 08:07:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28206 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:07:48 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA02550 for amos-out; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02547 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA19571 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Path: newsreader.digex.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!masternews.telia.net!news-stkh.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed1.funet.fi!128.214.205.17.MISMATCH!news.helsinki.fi!not-for-mail From: Joona I Palaste Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: AMOS-Compiling to Executable?? Date: 28 Apr 1998 19:26:37 GMT Organization: University of Helsinki Lines: 33 Distribution: world Message-ID: <6i5ahd$rkv$1@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: kruuna.helsinki.fi Xref: newsreader.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:128438 ReSent-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 06:22:26 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: O X-Status: Tom Grek scribbled the following: : I don't own an Amiga, but I used to be a big fan. Recently I downloaded : Amos Pro 2 off Lazarus, as being a programmer and Amiga fan I would like : to write games and give them to my girlfriend who owns an Amiga and is a : massive fan. This would be done by taking the Compiled?? file, and using : CrossDos to transfer it. However I don't have the AMOS manuals and can't : figure out how to make an executable file from my source (which works in : AMOS). Can anyone tell me how? From what I remember AMOS wasn't an : interpreted language... Hmm, AMOS itself IS an interpreted language. However, it CAN compile programs to executables. For this, you need the AMOS Pro Compiler (you can use the original AMOS Compiler too, but the Pro one is much better). The Compiler and the Pro Compiler are separate programs, which can be bought from stores or magazines, or perhaps other people. They come with enough manuals to tell you how to compile programs. PS. I have AMOS Pro and the Pro Compiler, and can answer any small questions that you have, to the best of my knowledge. -- /----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Joona Palaste (palaste@cc.helsinki.fi) | | | | | Kingpriest of "The Flying Lemon Tree" | | | | | TFA, FtPoW: Stargazer |------- -----------------| | |------- -----------------| | G++ FR FW+ M- #80 D+ ADA N+++ W++ B OP+ | | | | | Finland rules! => | | | | \----------------------------------------------------------------------/ Cyclonus: What is this place? Daniel: An ice cream factory? Cyclonus: You are insolent, Earth boy! Daniel: Thanks! --- from "Surprise Party" From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 10:00:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 10:00:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14427 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:00:36 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA03633 for amos-out; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03630 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:45:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08700 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm1-56.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-56.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.120]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29137 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:45:07 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 29 Apr 98 13:40:53 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Some Questions To: "Pietro Ghizzoni" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1502.423T2659T8205256@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Pietro Ghizzoni (ghizzo@agonet.it) wrote: >Well... i would say yes :) You can use a hires 32 colours screens, the amos >zones, and wait a key using 0% CPU power! Example: Ah, well. You know this better than me, for known reasons... A small question from me regarding the GUI-extension as well. Am I right in assuming that the GUI DISPLAY IFF command utilizes the screen-database to determine what type of screen to open? If so, is there a way to circumvent it? I'd like to have some control over it. And I'd also like that if the screen is already opened, it should only copy the bitmap into the already opened screen instead of the screen closing and then opening again. Oh, and the error-messages are sometimes less than satisfactory. At times, I get this message: at line 19. What went wrong at line 19? No idea. One final thing, not regarding the GUI-extension but the updates to AMOS itself. One thing that's nagging me is that whenever I want to fire up AMOS I have to change the resolution of the mousepointer. Things gets weird with AMOS running and the mousepointer in high-res. --- What we don't like, we destroy. Reptal brains with lethal toys. Don't be concerned, don't bother at all. Amuse yourself with phenobarbitals. At the age of 80 in my rockingchair, I don't wanna think I didn't dare. --- It is only the shallow people who do not judge by appearance. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 16:50:02 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 16:50:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08379 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:50:01 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18064 for amos-out; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18061 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04160 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21182 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1998 18:51:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp12-13.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.77) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 29 Apr 1998 18:51:43 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00w7q; Wed, 29 Apr 98 14:50:09 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Apr 98 14:50:09 GMT Message-Id: <9804291450.AA00w7p@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: tmg296@islay.ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tristan Greaves) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] GUI? Status: O X-Status: Mr. Giark To You (giark@RemoveThisPart.hicksville.dyn.ml.org) wrote: : What is wrong with this code? It breaks at the Gui Screen Open command with : the error in line 19. That's a big help. Someone try it and see what happens. : Gui Amiga 1 : _GET_SCREEN: : A=Gui Asl Screen : If A=-1 Then B=Gui Req("AMOS V3.00","Select a screen mode, Pal!","Alright : already!") : Goto _GET_SCREEN [cut!] I'm not sure why it is breaking, but one big flaw is that you are using "Goto". Don't use it. It's horrible. Structured programming rules etc. Tris. --- Tristan Greaves. Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton. -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 11:59:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 11:59:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09608 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:59:10 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA09444 for amos-out; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09441 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-05-238.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.238]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08829 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-04-164.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.164]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA12421 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:25:18 -0500 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:56:34 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: GUI? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 28-Apr-98, Palle Anker Larsen wrote: >Yes, you try to close the wrong screen. > Gui Screen Close A >And here you close screen A. Oops, I forgot about that. I was trying some other things with asl open (and why is there no asl close?) and forgot to change that A back before I snapped the code. I tried the code using gui screen close 1 but it fails at the open command and never gets to the close command. >I've included a working example of you'r code ;). I'll try your version and see. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 11:01:48 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 11:01:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29834 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:01:47 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08999 for amos-out; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08996 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-05-238.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.238]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04940 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-04-164.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.164]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA12424 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:25:36 -0500 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:58:30 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: GUI? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 28-Apr-98, Palle Anker Larsen wrote: >I've included a working example of you'r code ;). I just tried it. I does not work, it fails at the gui screen open line. If I didn't have ams, I'd be rebooting all the time. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 18:34:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 29 18:34:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08023 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:34:10 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA22015 for amos-out; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:53:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22012 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.13]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28014 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:52:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.201]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA22841; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:45:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-0d-1-10.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.140.139]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA29822; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:44:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Palle Anker Larsen Reply-To: Palle Anker Larsen To: "Mr. Giark To You" , Amos-List Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:42:16 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Subject: Re[2]: GUI? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hi Mr. G! Den 29-Apr-98 skrev Mr. Giark To You: MGTY> On 28-Apr-98, Palle Anker Larsen wrote: MGTY> > I've included a working example of you'r code ;). MGTY> MGTY> I just tried it. I does not work, it fails at the gui screen open line. If I MGTY> didn't have ams, I'd be rebooting all the time. Then I don't have a clue, it works very well on my machine, do you have some odd extension installed, and is it the latest guiextension.lib you are using? What version of Amos?? and what kind of HardWare??. It's spooky, that it works here and not at your machine, there should be no difference. Hope you find the sinner 8) -- Best Wishes Palle (BALLS) Larsen _\|/_ (6_6) ----oOO(_)OOo-------------------------------------------- | A4K.CS060II.CV64/4.CSCSI-II.cd*4.EZ135.HD+4GB.98MBram | --------------------------------------------------------- | E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk | | H-Page: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bbl1118 | --------------------------------------------------------- A fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block of marble; then you chip away everything that doesn't look like an elephant. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 30 12:30:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 30 12:30:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23961 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:30:45 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05499 for amos-out; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05496 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:05:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10519 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12100 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1998 16:04:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.150) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 30 Apr 1998 16:04:49 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: "Mr. Giark To You" CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:14:08 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: GUI? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello Mr. > Gui Screen Open 1,W,H,C,A > Wait 240 > Gui Screen Close A > Gui Amos > End The first thing which immediately strikes me for being odd, is why you are doing a Gui Screen Close on variable A, shouldn't it be 1, like the screen you opened? Also, are you opening a wrong type of screen? For example, my machine boots in PAL, and the gui extension only allows me to open PAL screens. Top open an NTSC screen, i have to boot in PAL. I cant use a Trap function, and the program just ends, and goes to the Editor/Direct mode thingy. Pietro told me he fixed this little niggle, but I haven't seen the library yet. Regards -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! 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From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 30 10:34:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 30 10:34:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00288 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:34:09 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01575 for amos-out; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01570 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-05-238.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.238]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05351 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-19-163.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.131.163]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA17379 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:28:23 -0500 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:05:55 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re:GUI? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 29-Apr-98, Palle Anker Larsen wrote: >MGTY> I just tried it. I does not work, it fails at the gui screen open line. >Then I don't have a clue, it works very well on my machine, do you have some >odd extension installed, and is it the latest guiextension.lib you are using? Yes, it's the latest version. No weird extensions as far as I know. >What version of Amos?? and what kind of HardWare??. 2.02 (Pietro's lib #2) A1200 030/50 >It's spooky, that it works here and not at your machine, there should be no >difference. Very. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 30 20:19:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Apr 30 20:19:44 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01410 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:19:43 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA03038 for amos-out; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03035 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:32:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12492 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc24.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.24]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id BAA12584 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 01:32:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1978 08:01:04 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Amos Rools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello. I'am thinking of writing a article abouth grait productions done in Amos to show those guy's that dont like Amos what it's good for, so let me know What games & stuff that are done in Amos. If some of you also wanna write some articles, they will be welcome. Morten Bolstad From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 1 06:33:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 1 06:33:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23941 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:33:09 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA06743 for amos-out; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access5.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access5.digex.net [205.197.245.196]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06740 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access5.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA04899 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Path: newsreader.digex.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!newsfeed1.swip.net!masternews.telia.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!grek.demon.co.uk!Tom From: Tom Grek Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: AMOS-Compiling to Executable?? Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:05:46 +0100 Organization: Empire Records Distribution: world Message-ID: <8$P63DAqY5R1Iwod@grek.demon.co.uk> References: <893785751.15718.0.nnrp-04.9e98dd27@news.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: grek.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: grek.demon.co.uk:193.237.95.57 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 893884792 nnrp-06:11199 NO-IDENT grek.demon.co.uk:193.237.95.57 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.04 <1x+38spxT1$S+7wL0jtnbM$QWH> Lines: 59 Xref: newsreader.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:128466 ReSent-Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 06:10:11 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: O X-Status: In article <893785751.15718.0.nnrp-04.9e98dd27@news.demon.co.uk>, Ben Matthew writes >In article Tom Grek >wrote: >> I don't own an Amiga, but I used to be a big fan. Recently I downloaded >> Amos Pro 2 off Lazarus, > >Amos Pro *2* ? Doesn't exist, presume you mean just Amos Pro. Are you sure about that? When I load it up, its a totally different interface to Amos 1.35 (that I used to use when they gave it free on Amiga Format). It gives me the message 'Amos Professional Version 2.00 by Francois Lionet Copyright 1992 Europress Software' >WTF the lazarus; I hope thats not a warez site.... AFAIK, Amos Pro is >still a copyrighted commerical product. Lazarus isn't a warez site, it's at www.aqcom.com/lazarus and I can't believe you haven't heard of it. It has virtually every game I ever played on the Amiga of old and also programming stuff, assemblers, OctaMED etc. It's designed for emulation on the PC and doesn't hold any software <4 years old. >> as being a programmer and Amiga fan I would like >> to write games and give them to my girlfriend who owns an Amiga and is a >> massive fan. This would be done by taking the Compiled?? file, and using >> CrossDos to transfer it. > >Why use cross-dos? The only reason you would need that is if you compiled >the file using UAE on a PC, saved to the pc partition and then saved to an >MS-DOS disk which would require cross-dos on the amiga to read it. > >Seems a bit long-winded. Well, thats exactly what I want to do. The PC can't read Amiga disks, I don't have a serial cable; it's the easiest way. >> However I don't have the AMOS manuals and can't >> figure out how to make an executable file from my source > >AmosPro Compiler (another commerical product). doh. > (which works in >> AMOS). Can anyone tell me how? From what I remember AMOS wasn't an >> interpreted language... > >It sure is. By default the language is completely interpreted. I can't believe it! AMOS programs run so fast, its incredible > But you >can compile the sources using the stand-alone compiler package. I had it on the Amiga, that's why I don't remember it being purely interpreted. My girlfriend has the coverdisk they gave the 1.35 compiler away on so I'll have to transfer that to the PC by cable. Lazarus doesn't have it. Or maybe just relearn 68k Assembler. >Ben --^--Thanks -- Tom Grek Visit my web page: www.grek.demon.co.uk Lots of programming, electronics and general files. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 1 06:18:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 1 06:18:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA10714 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:18:07 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA06748 for amos-out; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access5.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access5.digex.net [205.197.245.196]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06745 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access5.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA04903 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 06:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Path: newsreader.digex.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!news-dc.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!server3.netnews.ja.net!news.ox.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: Ben Hutchings Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: AMOS-Compiling to Executable?? Date: 30 Apr 1998 00:12:55 +0100 Organization: Oxford University Lines: 63 Sender: womble@eldritch.dyn.ml.org Message-ID: <6i8c5n$7b0$1@eldritch.dyn.ml.org> References: <893785751.15718.0.nnrp-04.9e98dd27@news.demon.co.uk> <8$P63DAqY5R1Iwod@grek.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: max60.public.ox.ac.uk Xref: newsreader.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:128469 ReSent-Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 06:10:27 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: O X-Status: In article <8$P63DAqY5R1Iwod@grek.demon.co.uk>, Tom Grek wrote: >In article <893785751.15718.0.nnrp-04.9e98dd27@news.demon.co.uk>, Ben >Matthew writes >>In article Tom Grek >>wrote: >>> I don't own an Amiga, but I used to be a big fan. Recently I downloaded >>> Amos Pro 2 off Lazarus, >> >>Amos Pro *2* ? Doesn't exist, presume you mean just Amos Pro. >Are you sure about that? When I load it up, its a totally different >interface to Amos 1.35 (that I used to use when they gave it free on >Amiga Format). It gives me the message >'Amos Professional Version 2.00 > by Francois Lionet >Copyright 1992 Europress Software' I think Amos Professional started with version 2.0 (version 1.x just being called Amos). No-one actually calls it "Amos Pro 2". >>WTF the lazarus; I hope thats not a warez site.... AFAIK, Amos Pro is >>still a copyrighted commerical product. >Lazarus isn't a warez site, Yes it is. >it's at www.aqcom.com/lazarus and I can't believe you haven't heard >of it. Possibly because he's a current Amiga user. Perhaps I should quote from the site: "Lazarus exists to support users of Amiga emulators and not, for example, active Amiga users of today. There are many differences between the Amiga now and the Amiga then, most of the Amiga's finest moments have already happened; try telling that to a current Amiga owner though, eh? They'd spit in your face saying something about BoXers and Power PCs or something, before laughing manically, like a pot of cold curry. "So we blatantly and very purposely ignore the current "Amiga", which isn't really an Amiga at all. It's a bastardised Amiga, which when it isn't trying to be a PC or a Mac, has very little to offer in terms of originality or innovation." (Followed by more bullshit about Amiga being dead since 1994 and how the A500 was the only Real Amiga and the Lazarus people are the real true Amiga users. Like Mathias Ortmann, but with added hypocrisy and poorer reasoning.) >It has virtually every game I ever played on the Amiga of old and >also programming stuff, assemblers, OctaMED etc. It's designed for >emulation on the PC and doesn't hold any software <4 years old. That's a bogus argument. Having said that, the games are tempting if you missed them first time round. -- Ben Hutchings -- should be revising | Jay Miner Society: http://www.jms.org/ m95bwh@ecs.ox.ac.uk | http://users.ox.ac.uk/~worc0223/ | IRC: Womble You can't have everything. Where would you put it?