From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 02:58:55 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 02:58:55 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA17867 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 02:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA12458 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 02:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12455 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 02:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA19423 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 02:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7460 invoked from network); 1 Mar 1998 07:31:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.104) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 1 Mar 1998 07:31:17 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: TSI CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 01:57:18 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980228180300.006a2378@radiks.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: AMIGA98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Hey, I was wondering if anyone is gonna be in St. Louis, Mo. USA. > for the AMIGA98 show? I'm gonna be there. > Is the guy coding AP3 thinking about going? I was seriously thinking about going, and taking some F1 stuff with me, but turns out I cant make it =/ Somehow, I dont think Pietro will be able to put in an appearance from Italy, hehe ;) Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/f1software/ Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 04:12:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 04:12:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA18035 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA12937 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 03:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12932 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 03:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA05800 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 03:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA14889; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 02:29:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 02:29:35 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: My Amos wish list. To: Pietro Ghizzoni cc: Amos-List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Once again hears my Amos wish list. #1 bobs & sprites that can be rotated and scaled like Apple soft vector graphics. #2 3D bobs like that mushy raycasting thing. #3 to be able to load a IFF as a background, or FOREGROUND. #4 collision detection between 2D, and 3D obj's. #5 easy JoyPad combination reading like IF JPADUP(1) AND JPADRR(1) AND JPADR(1) THEN 2000 JPAD UP, DOWN, RIGHT, LEFT, FF, RR, P, R, B, G, Y. #6 multi-mouse support, so can read the mouse in both ports. #7 translucent screens, so I can open 3 256 Hi Res screen, so I can draw background on 1, midground on 2, and foreground on 3. (mem should be the only limit) #8 milti screen collision detection system for #7. #9 new 3D modeler with point & click coloring (select color from pallet then click on face,face changes to that color), surface detailing on the faces not on a grid, surface detailing tools (line,dot,square,circle.), shape modiling on the shape (pulling she 3D obj to form it), bent face modeling, in side out function (for working on the inside of the obj), real color shape system , assign number or colors command( 2,256 ), assign color block command(if a obj has 4 colors you can get that block of 4 colors from 0 to 253), get pallet command(load pallet from IFF). #10 3D map maker #11 2D map maker #12 move map commands up, down, right, left, and rotate & scale. #13 3D obj texture bit maping. #14 light sourcing command. #15 time & date read commands IF TIME > 12:44:52pm THEN 2000 #16 variable bank save & load commands (save all variables from a program to a .bak file, or gust some of them) #17 multi-tasking loop commands. (exe lope with > priority if any free CPU cycles open up they go to the next loop < priority, and, so on) #18 point&click zone maker. #19 new easier 2D editor (scalable image widow with vertical,and horizontal sliders, cut and past widow (load IFF's in to it), and drag, and drop for completed bobs, and sprites.) #20 new 3D drawing commands (draw,box,polygon,etc...) #21 Icon tool type read/wright commands. #22 read/data .bak file system #23 run asynchronously command #24 ascii read command. #25 color font text editor with file read command #26 make the Amos custom screens mode promotable. (like with NewMode) #27 built in environmental variable support. #28 complete on line manual with Quick Basic type command index. #29 new Amos editor like the Pro one, but the edit screen area, and the direct mode screen area will work like a normal amiga widow so you can lift up the bottom of the edit screen, and keep both the edit & direct mode screen up, so you can check something in direct mode, and then type it in the edit mode widow, and I like the bigger sliding bars of Amiga DOS widows, and the horizontal bar, and the REPEAT key click arrows. Well thats all I can think of for now. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 05:49:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 05:49:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA24806 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 05:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA14532 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14529 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA28033 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17540 invoked from network); 1 Mar 1998 09:36:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.104) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 1 Mar 1998 09:36:56 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Eric Hyland CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 04:38:23 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > #2 3D bobs like that mushy raycasting thing. I take it you are referring to my Texture mapping demo's i did not long ago (the ones with pics of Queen and T2). Those were true Tmapping, using internal maths, to lookup tables and the ZOOM command (pretty quick even for zoom). I can send the source of them if ya want them, tho theres nothing to rip. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/f1software/ Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 05:11:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 05:11:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13451 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 05:11:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA14195 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14192 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA00654 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA29224; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:17:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:17:11 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: My Amos wish list (add2) To: Andy Kellett cc: Pietro Ghizzoni , amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I forgot two things 1 I want to be able to use more then 8 shapes to make a 3D obj, and 2 I want to be able to do this LET STOPTIME=TIME+00:00:45 it would probably be better to use military time, but I would like to use am/pm as well. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 06:26:32 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 06:26:32 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21805 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 06:26:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA14808 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14803 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:59:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA16853 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11485 invoked from network); 1 Mar 1998 09:59:09 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 1 Mar 1998 09:59:09 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.26]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA33780; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:59:06 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Cori Skagen , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 10:58:17 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: My wishlist for AmosPro 3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id EAA14805 Status: O X-Status: On 28-Feb-98, Cori Skagen smashed the keyboard with: > Hello everyone, > > here's a few of the things that I would like to see in the next version of > AmosPro > > 1. Full integrated intuition support > > I feel this is the most important aspect that kills AmosPro as is now. This > should be fully integrated, no more custom screens that aren't intuition > compatible, this includes the editor, and file requester, menus, sliders ect. > I know I've comented on this before, I agree it would be nice to run the editor itselve in a true intuition system. As for the program we write I think an excelent way of doing Intuition is the OS DevKit or the upcomming GUI extension, why not simply consider the new GUI extension as 'standard' it's even written by the same guy :) (I don't know how much the editor/finished programs is linked together with screens, so it might be both or none for intuition..) > 2. AGA and RTG support > > If intuition is supported properly, then these should be relatively easy to > do, and no seperate commands for AGA and non-aga, or intuition or non-intution > stuff, this is inefficient. > 100 % Agree, AGA is given with intuition support, RTG should be placed as a couple of extra commands opening for work on 2.04 (No RTG in that).. > 3. Bug Fixes and optimizations > the random crash bugs should be fixed of course, but please don't forget about > other bugs like the dual-playfield bug, the 3.1 interlace bugs, ect. > Priority no. 1, this is the MOST importaint thing to do at first.. > 4. New and current commands > Certain comands in AmosPro aren't really needed anymore, such as the STOS > compatible commands, some people may not agree here but: The interface > language sucks, I still prefer to make interface myself, the icon commands are > rendudant since the bob commands do everything the icon commands do, and > certain sprite and bob commands are repeated. > A new sort command would be nice allowing the start and end point of an > array to be sorted. > A fast zoom command. > Time and date commands (why these weren't there from the begining I'll > never know) > > I think the current command list could be looked at, I'm sure everybody would > agree there are some commands that are either useless or redundant. > When moving to intuition-screens (2.0+) you get a very good and free gift from the GAD-TOOLS library, the central aspects of GUI extension relies on this :) But for people (like me) doing step-by-step convertions of programs to run on intuition it would be nice to keep the interface, I just don't see any reason for using time to debug that part, as I'm actualy using some bugs in those commands to make interfaces in an easier way :)) Removing commands would proberly interfer with the 'token-list' of the main library, so I don't think it would be wise to begin to do this.. > 5. Standard intution compatiable menus and file-requesters, I know I > mentioned them before, but these are important. > GADtools.library and ASL delivers those on OS2.04+, and should be very easy to implement (Runs great from GUI, OS DevKit and Intuition extensions :)) > 6. Optimized compiling > The compiler needs omptimizing but I'm sure everyone will agree with this. > Perhaps processor specific code? > YEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, THATZ right, and making smaller code-output would be very nice too, a switch to 2.0+ intuition-screens should reduce the size of compiled code by huge amount, as all the screen-control could be handled by the standard libraries (intuition.library, graphics.library, exec.library..)... > 7. AmigaDos 2.0+ or even 3.0+ > I know there has been debate about this lately, but if your still using > 1.3, then stick with amosPro2.0, or upgrade your ROM Uhh, 3.0 is proberly to ambitious, there are many people having an 'old' amiga next to their PeeCee, and it would be stupid to push them away, that's also why I still think it should be posible to make programs that can run on 1.3, but I guess I'm outnumbered there... :( Besides the basics of 2.0 and 3.0 is very much the same, the major inovations with 3.0 was the datatypes and RTG. And it should be easy to avoid 3.0 specific functions in the basics.. Here's a couple of my own wishes: gadtools.library support direct from commands, sort of like the OSDevKit, where gadgets can be defined like: _gt Button NR,X,Y,W,H,FLAGS,TEXT$ for a simple button, makes it easier to create your interface while working out the basics.. locale.library support (No further explination needed :) fileid.library support :) The last two could be included in, say, the IO-Devices extension or another standard extension :) (The locale extension for locale.library works just great, but it's a bit stupid to use an entire extension-slot for so little commands) -- Kind regards from ________________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. 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Pop up, push down, byte, byte, byte! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 14:23:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 14:23:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20916 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:23:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23051 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23048 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iol.ie (mail1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.192]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04182 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from GPO.iol.ie (root@GPO2.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.197]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10672 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:44:19 GMT Received: from iol.ie (cahill4@dialup-180.dublin.iol.ie [194.125.41.180]) by GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA07041 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:44:17 GMT From: Peter Cahill To: The Amos List Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 17:25:19 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: The game extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 01-Mar-98, Eric Hyland wrote: >On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Andy Kellett wrote: Hi! >Can GMS bobs be rotated, and scaled like Apple soft vector graphics? GMS doesn'thave any bob rotation commands. >If not why not? because GMS doesn't do it 8) I'll be putting bob rotation and scaling functions in to TGE, but it probably won't be in v1.0, I think I'll have the functions in the version after v1.0. Im hoping to get TGE out within 3 months, so there will most likely be a version which will support rotating (X/Y/Z) and scaling sometime this summer. I'll let you know when the version is released. thanks for the idea 8) bye, -- ____ _____ ___ ______________________________________ { \ }_ _{ \ { { { { O|{ { {{_{ O } } Aminet: }Projects: } { /_}{ { _{ / { { { { {{_ { {{_{ n \ } game/patch/alfred.lha }CBATNAM } {_{__}{_{__{_}\ \ { pics/icon/intel.lha { #The Game# { ________________ \ \ } dev/amos/clipfonts.lha } #Extension# } \ \ / {~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~{~~~~~~~~~~~~~{ Cahill \ \/ }A1200 030/50MHz,26Meg,4xCDrom,850MegHD} __________________\ {33.6k modem,2 floppys, etc... { } } ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~}~~~~~~~~~~~~~{ { cahill4@iol.ie { http://www.iol.ie/~cahill4/peter/index.html} } IRCnick PAC } *IAPA* member } Team *AMOS* { ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 09:19:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 09:19:59 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14737 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 09:19:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17787 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17784 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from falk.c2i.net (falk.c2i.net [193.216.69.97]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25498 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mp-146-132.daxnet.no (roantons@mp-146-132.daxnet.no [193.216.146.132]) by falk.c2i.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA29442; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:18:16 +0100 (MET) Date: 01 Mar 98 14:11:10 +0100 From: "Roy Antonsen" Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Gui-extension To: "Andy Kellett" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <592.364T541T8511899@c2i.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: On 18-Feb-98 01:00:28, Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) wrote: >> Has anyone an old copy of the older version of the Gui-extension? I forgot >> to convert all my old programs before I erased the old library... :( >GUI Extension V1.62 is available from my homepages, and Aminet. I also have >the one version slightly older than that, or is it an even older version you >need? I'm currently using V1.62 so I'll need the v1.5ß extension. Roy Antonsen aka // A1200T/10MB/50MHz - roantons@c2i.net KillJoy/BDZ. \x/ THOR 2.5a - Current time: 1-Mar-98 14:09:08 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 02:21:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 02:21:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00128 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 02:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA12334 for amos-out; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:55:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12331 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:55:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA17142 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:55:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23940 invoked from network); 3 Mar 1998 05:55:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@205.246.88.107) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 3 Mar 1998 05:55:51 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Roy Antonsen CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 14:09:48 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <592.364T541T8511899@c2i.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Gui-extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > I'm currently using V1.62 so I'll need the v1.5s extension. Version 1.7 will be released to the public in a few days. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/f1software/ Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 16:28:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 16:28:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18619 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24076 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24073 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21564 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from p13-curlew-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.60.13]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAD24675 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 19:52:55 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 1 Mar 98 19:46:23 +0000 Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. Message-Id: <34F9BB0F.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > #1 bobs & sprites that can be rotated and scaled like Apple soft vector > graphics. > #2 3D bobs like that mushy raycasting thing. > #3 to be able to load a IFF as a background, or FOREGROUND. > #4 collision detection between 2D, and 3D obj's. Hmmmm. > #7 translucent screens, so I can open 3 256 Hi Res screen, so I can draw > background on 1, midground on 2, and foreground on 3. (mem should be the > only limit) > #8 milti screen collision detection system for #7. HMMMMMMM. > #9 new 3D modeler with point & click coloring (select color from pallet then > click on face,face changes to that color), surface detailing on the faces not > on a grid, surface detailing tools (line,dot,square,circle.), shape modiling > on the shape (pulling she 3D obj to form it), bent face modeling, in side > out function (for working on the inside of the obj), real color shape system > , assign number or colors command( 2,256 ), assign color block command(if a > obj has 4 colors you can get that block of 4 colors from 0 to 253), get > pallet command(load pallet from IFF). > #10 3D map maker > #11 2D map maker > #12 move map commands up, down, right, left, and rotate & scale. > #13 3D obj texture bit maping. > #14 light sourcing command. Ha!! So is there anything you actually want to write yourself? How about a command MAKE GAME where you just type in a description of the game (in any language) and it is automatically made? Oh and surely he doesn't actually have the 3D extension source code as it was made independantly in which case half of these commands couldn't be done anyway. -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 22:04:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 1 22:04:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04908 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:04:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA29303 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA29300 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA02490 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01292; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:28:58 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:28:58 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. To: Alastair Murray cc: amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: <34F9BB0F.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 1 Mar 1998, Alastair Murray wrote: > >[SNIP] > > Ha!! > > So is there anything you actually want to write yourself? I'm a designer not a coder I want a high level language that has the commands, and tools necessary to let someone like me make 2D, and 3D games with a minimum of muss, and fuss. If I wanted to figure out every thing that needs to be done to make games work for my self I would have chosen ASM, or C. > How about a command MAKE GAME where you just type in a > description of the game (in any language) and it is automatically > made? Thats a stupid idea, but typical of a coders mentality. You coders have all the creativity of a rock which is why most games suck. If some one gives us designers a language that we can really use than you will see what games are suppose to be like. As an example if a designer made that question it would look more like this. How about making Amos artificially intelligent, and give it a voice recognition system, so you can explain your ideas to it, and it will create the code? > Oh and surely he doesn't actually have the 3D extension source code as > it was made independantly in which case half of these commands > couldn't be done anyway. > > -Murray >[SNIP] Well then maybe he will get the code, or better yet make a new Amos 3D as Amos 3D sucks, and only a masochist would love it. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 00:07:54 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 00:07:54 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19773 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 00:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA01242 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA01239 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA04481 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA06806; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:59:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:59:34 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. To: Andy Kellett cc: amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Andy Kellett wrote: > > > #2 3D bobs like that mushy raycasting thing. > > I take it you are referring to my Texture mapping demo's i did not long ago Yes. > (the ones with pics of Queen and T2). Those were true Tmapping, using > internal maths, to lookup tables and the ZOOM command (pretty quick even for > zoom). I can send the source of them if ya want them, tho theres nothing to > rip. > > Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett No thanks I probably wouldn't understand it thats why I want 3D bobs. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 00:24:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 00:24:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01960 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 00:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00399 for amos-out; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00396 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (ehp-1.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA00700 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa0106674; 2 Mar 98 3:33 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003i9; Mon, 2 Mar 98 03:21:01 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Mar 98 03:21:01 GMT Message-Id: <9803020321.AA003i8@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25ede69a.u10t12e.792b4-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Jens Vang Petersen ) (at Sun, 01 Mar 1998 10:58:17 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Good Grief. Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Jens, > > 7. AmigaDos 2.0+ or even 3.0+ > > I know there has been debate about this lately, but if your still using > > 1.3, then stick with amosPro2.0, or upgrade your ROM > Uhh, 3.0 is proberly to ambitious, there are many people having an 'old' > amiga next to their PeeCee, and it would be stupid to push them away, that's > also why I still think it should be posible to make programs that can run > on 1.3, but I guess I'm outnumbered there... :( Besides the basics of > 2.0 and 3.0 is very much the same, the major inovations with 3.0 was > the datatypes and RTG. And it should be easy to avoid 3.0 specific > functions in the basics.. Sheesh, did anyone actually get 2.0 or 2.1 ???? Personally, I went from 1.3 straight to 3.0 with no stop inbetween, and the upgrade is incredibly easy. AmosPro is still THE best way of doing stuff on old amigas, but seriously, hands up those who are using 1.3, 2.0, or 2.1. I have dusty old machines with old 1.3 chips in them, but I took out their 3.0 chip so they would be "standard" and I could use the newer machines for newer things. With newer programs, we need to be able to compete on a similar level to that of say, the peecee, which these days has a very fast processor, much quicker than the "standard" 68020, or an upgraded amiga, more memory than the amiga, and hard disk and graphics card. Ok, we on the amiga as standard have some memory, but not enough, a dinky little floppy drive, and a graphics chipset that will give older graphics cards a run for their money, but at a much slower speed. How many peecee guys even THINK about supporting anything as old as a 486 these days ? Not many. How old is a 486 in comparison to a 1200 for example ? Yeah, ok, here we go. Why do I want a new amos ? What do I look for in a language ? I want something thats gonna run on as many machines as possible, ie amos. Something with a good interface. Amos. Something that is fast and powerfull. Ok, amos, but getting iffy by modern standards. Look at blitz. Quick but unstable as hell. Lousy interface. Does it support 1.3 ? Barely. Should amos ? What kind of amiga should we all be using ? Hands up those who USE their unexpanded A500 with old chipset anymore. Hands up those who know someone. Right, thats not many. Now, who wants a new version of an old classic, updated to cope with new chipsets, new graphics cards, and (hopefully) faster processors ? If some of the code can be updated for 68020 minimum later down the line, should we REALLY care that the 16bit machines can't run it ? Yeah, comes down to money again. You get what you pay for. If you don't pay for it, you don't get it. Much as I hate it, I end up spending money on my peecee nearly every damn month for upgrades. It's driving me nuts. I spent twice as much money on my new amiga a few months back, and can buy little else for it. It's already "expanded". Do you WANT software that holds back the machine, or pushes it to its limits ?? Do you REALLY think YOU will write software for the A500 in 1998 ?? Do you want to be able to access "new" hardware like AGA and gfx cards in amos ?? If you were writing something, WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE ?? It comes down to choice. AmosPro ALREADY exists in a damn good form, with loads of extensions that can handle 1.3 through 3.0 well. It can't handle 3.1 properly. WB3.5 and 4.0 are ON THEIR WAY, slowly but surely. What the hell do you think will happen with old machines then ?? I agree it isn't a good idea to push older users away, but how are you gonna keep an amiga A500 user happy, with a programming language ?? Yeah, right. He sees what the peecee is doing, and thinks, thats a bit better than mine. He doesn't upgrade. He compares the latest peecee technology with an unexpanded amiga. Pointless. Take the guy who expanded his amiga, with memory, hard drive, and preferably a faster processor, graphics card, monitor, included as standard these days on peecees. He knows the difference between the machines, and knows that one thing remains true, on both platforms. EXPAND OR DIE. If you don't expand it, your machine WILL die. Software needs to cope. Should it support old machines ? Preferably. In the long run ? Time=money. Ghizzo has the source for amos, and has already produced some good stuff for amos, and is having fun trying to decode someone elses bad days. Should he: a: Get it working as fast as possible to get people using amos and their amiga again, by using new features and facilities built into the operating system ? b: Spend ages duplicating the work already done on the newer operating system to complete a similar working interface that doesn't quite work the same as the new workbench that runs on all machines, that takes about a hundred times longer to write and debug that means we all end up screaming for a new version while we might as well just keep using what we're using, and use blitz when we need aga or something. If we're that desperate for old system compatability, use the amos interface commands. THEY WORK. It's the MUI argument all over again. Should we use mui, which is "slow" and memory hogging, or should we spend ages duplicating it under OS calls and the like. Answer: Depends how much memory you have, and how fast your processor is. One MUI task hogs memory, yeah, sure. Two or three, and it gets efficiant. Slow ? What the hell processor are you using ? Why are you still using it ?? Upgrade dammit. Why am I still on an amiga, and still using amos ? Because of the interface superiority. What can we expect of amos3 ? Complete multitasking. Faster graphics access using AGA and graphics card modes. A few less bugs. A few more commands. The MINIMUM amiga that I personally will support has AGA graphics, 2megs chipmem, a hard drive, preferably a CD drive, and at LEAST 4 megs of fast memory, but use 8 just to be on the safe side so you can load something else at the same time. A 68020 or better is REQUIRED, and anything slower is UNUSABLE by todays standards. 68020 is TOO SLOW these days as well, but at least it will run on it. Since no machine with AGA is using less than 3.0, that is a good minimum too. Personally, as soon as I get my hands on the new workbench 3.5, or 4.0 or whatever it ends up being, it will be softkicked immediately, and the chips levered into place as soon as possible. Even if you have an A500, a new 3.1 OS is EASY to get. UPGRADE OR DIE. You have to. You know it makes sense. If you DON'T want to upgrade your amiga, to a sensible level, then why the hell are you still using it ? THINK about it. > Shift to the left! Shift to the right! Pop up, push down, byte, byte, byte! ! Sorry to all I just offended in the previous section, I'm not normally that agressive, I just want the amiga to be able to compete on a sensible level with other platforms, and the only way to do that, is to compare similarly spec'd machines. Hands up who supports windows version 1.0. Hands up who has seen it. W2.0 ? Didn't think so. W3.1 ? Ah, one or two hands. W95 ? Oh look. There they all are. W98 ? One or two.. Sorry, but the new amos, and new amiga software NEEDS to take advantage of anything the developers can get their hands on, otherwise they might as well just stick with an A500 while the rest of the world moves on. I can see a software title in the not too distant future requiring a multi- processor machine, with 68060 for workbench compatability, PPC processing, and retargeted graphics, maybe siamesed with a Pentium3. Scary huh. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | Hmmm, I'm sure I was thinking of a cool |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | quote when I loaded this file.. | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 12:24:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 12:24:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03759 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11963 for amos-out; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11960 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco6-109.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.109]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10074 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:12:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp24-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.73]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA30275 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:06:45 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 10:08:53 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000086C1.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Amos and 1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 02-Mar-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote: > Does 3.x require any more memory to run than 2.x 3.x is more reliant on FAST RAM than 2.x is. You will probably notice a gain in CHIP RAM free. > If I was to upgrade > from 2.04 to 3.x my worry is that I also have to buy extra memory. Not if you have at least 1 meg of each now. But the 3.x ROM is very flaky when it comes to A500s. I had to softkick it, because the ROM would not work in my 500. > Also does 3.x require an 030+ processor? No. It would help, but 3.1 will run on a stock 68000 processor. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 07:40:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 07:40:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23891 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA06086 for amos-out; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:01:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06083 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14248 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:01:08 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA77 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 04:03:51 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 000086C1; Mon, 2 Mar 98 03:57:11 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:10:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000086C1.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re: Amos and 1.3 To: amos-list@access.digex.net (Amos List), Robert Bankston Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Does 3.x require any more memory to run than 2.x If I was to upgrade from 2.04 to 3.x my worry is that I also have to buy extra memory. Also does 3.x require an 030+ processor? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Amos and 1.3 Author: Robert Bankston at Internet Date: 27/02/98 11:35 OK this is only my opinion but I think it's high time for Amiga developers in general to push 3.0 as the STANDARD for development. I realize all the 1.3 and 2.04 users out there but we can't expect much further development (3.5 or 4.0) until more people are using 3.0. 3.0 is much better in my opinion also and it doesn't cost very much to upgrade. So I think the decision to not support 1.3 is a wise one. These days I think and 030 and WB 3.0 should be the minimum standard for Amiga development but you guys may disagree. Just a thought. Robert From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 18:28:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 18:28:17 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27448 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA26741 for amos-out; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26738 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25994 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126069.agonet.it [195.32.126.69]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA10779 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:02:53 +0100 From: Pietro Ghizzoni Reply-To: ghizzo@agonet.it To: Amos-List Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:15:56 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Dairymen Soft Subject: Report 02-Mar-98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hi! Ok.. after the words the facts... the beta version of the .fd files support kit is ready for download. I've sent it today to Mush, and so soon or later it should be available somewhere on his homepage. Aahh... now the Mushroom PD is the new official AMOS PD Library :) Have a look... at least now we have again a official and working library. Come on, submit your material, comments and ideas. And now a important request: *GFX guys i need you!!* Take the oppurtunity to design the new AMOS logo! It must be cool, modern, and not a fake 'AMOS' like the original. Send me your creations, and between 15 days there will be a public votation for select the new logo :) Ok, that's all... -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | Team AMIGA \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Professional Team Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ!! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 19:57:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 19:57:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08318 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02962 for amos-out; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02959 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29989 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:23:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22106 invoked from network); 2 Mar 1998 22:23:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp13-4.redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.132) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 2 Mar 1998 22:23:53 -0000 Received: by mushypd.redrose.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00k7t; Mon, 2 Mar 98 17:25:15 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Mar 98 17:25:15 GMT Message-Id: <9803021725.AA00k7s@mushypd.redrose.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: Ben Hutchings (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: [AMOSList] Re: AMOS Now being updated! What should be added? Status: O X-Status: In article <34F25D52.37352D5B@qrail.com.au>, Alex Borodin wrote: >I agree, though, that the Amiga should be able to access all >files on PC machines as if they were local drives too.. we >basically need NetBEUI, but that's a different topic and we >can start a different thread about that one. You mean SMB, not NetBEUI (spit!). We already have Samba, which is pretty good but doesn't yet have an Amiga file-system built on it. -- Ben Hutchings, M&CS student | Jay Miner Society website: http://www.jms.org/ email/finger m95bwh@ecs.ox.ac.uk | homepage http://users.ox.ac.uk/~worc0223/ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 18:47:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 18:46:59 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02567 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26432 for amos-out; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26429 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02607 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from p51-albatross-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.56.51]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA27835; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:51:58 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 2 Mar 98 19:46:25 +0000 Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. Message-Id: <34FB0C91.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: EricHyland, amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > I'm a designer not a coder I want a high level language that has the > commands, So lets see... you are a designer who wants a high level language to code in but isn't a coder..? > > How about a command MAKE GAME where you just type in a > > description of the game (in any language) and it is automatically > > made? > > Thats a stupid idea, but typical of a coders mentality. You coders have all > the creativity of a rock which is why most games suck. If some one gives us > designers a language that we can really use than you will see what games are > suppose to be like. As an example if a designer made that question it would > look more like this. Well I both deisng my games and code them. Knowing what you can and can't code means I'll never do what you just did and ask for a whole load of unrealistic commands. Also I think you misunderstood me. My comment about MAKE GAME was a joke brought on by you asking for commands that would virtually create half a game instantly (and is therefore stupid). -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 21:35:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 21:35:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07348 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06129 for amos-out; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06126 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA01882 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31094 invoked from network); 3 Mar 1998 00:28:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.254.224) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 3 Mar 1998 00:28:13 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 19:29:37 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Report 02-Mar-98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Hi! > Ok.. after the words the facts... the beta version of the .fd files support > kit is ready for download. I've sent it today to Mush, and so soon or later > it should be available somewhere on his homepage. Well, it would be available for download, only he forgot to attach the mail to the mail =/ It will be there as soon as he gets his mail in the morning and sends it to me. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/f1software/ Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 21:10:47 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 2 21:10:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09460 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA05818 for amos-out; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:12:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05814 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03383 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:12:18 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per1-8.space.net.au [203.38.10.246]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA11963 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:12:11 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34FB4AF8.6566@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 08:12:40 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Amiga98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I was planning on going but it`s too soon for me, however I`m going to the E3 and the Belgium Scene Event. Anyone going to those? Andy H From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 03:21:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 03:21:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25081 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA12499 for amos-out; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12496 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA15738 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:05:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25898 invoked from network); 3 Mar 1998 06:05:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp3-43.redrose.net) (mushy-pd@205.246.88.107) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 3 Mar 1998 06:05:12 -0000 Received: by mushypd.redrose.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00k7y; Tue, 3 Mar 98 01:06:00 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 01:06:00 GMT Message-Id: <9803030106.AA00k7x@mushypd.redrose.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: Alex Borodin (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: [AMOSList] Re: AMOS Now being updated! What should be added? Status: O X-Status: Ben Hutchings wrote: > > In article <34f17607.7722015@news.xs4all.nl>, > Branko Collin wrote: > > > >(removed two ngs, added two more appropriate ones) > > > >On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:36:42 +1000, Alex Borodin > > wrote: > > > >>Andy Kellett wrote: > >>> The major changes which will be added, will be AGA and graphics > >>> card support for all AMOS modes, including its editor, yet still > >>> be able to provide the programmer with complete control over its > >>> graphics system. > >> > >>TCPI/IP network support! So that it can be used to write network > >>games. An implementation of sockets communication would be > >>ideal.. > > > >Although I agree with this suggestion, I would like to point out that > >for simple Internet applications you can alreay use the TCP: device. > > > For real-time games (isn't that what AMOS is really for?) TCP is not > very useful. You should generally use UDP instead. This doesn't > really fit a file paradigm at all, which is why there is no handler > for a UDP: device. TCP/IP isn't really a file-oriented protocol, actually. It's Packet-oriented. That's why you have to run services like FTP, Telnet and NFS over the top of it to get any useful human-level transmission happening. TCP/IP is a transport. That's what makes it perfect for AMOS... if we can get hooks into it at the socket level, we can establish real-time network communications between different machines. The TCP: device which Branko was talking about, is something with which I am completely unfamiliar. Maybe it's some kind of handler which sets up a virtual drive over a TCP/IP link.. I dunno. Sounds really useful, but it still won't allow AMOS to transmit commands and data using sockets. Ciao for now. -- o Alex Borodin B.Eng(Hons) o Queensland Rail o Software and Systems Engineer o Ph: +61-7-3235-2482 o Signal and Operational Systems o Fax:+61-7-3235-2747 "A passion which we allow to grow active within us through our own choice afterwards forces itself upon us against our will" -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 00:31:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 00:31:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26128 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10989 for amos-out; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10986 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA02128 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:07:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00592; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:07:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:07:55 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Sender: Eric Hyland Reply-To: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. To: Alastair Murray cc: EricHyland , amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: <34FB0C91.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 2 Mar 1998, Alastair Murray wrote: > Well I both deisng my games and code them. Knowing what you can and > can't code means I'll never do what you just did and ask for a whole > load of unrealistic commands. Unrealistic how? > Also I think you misunderstood me. My comment about MAKE GAME was a > joke brought on by you asking for commands that would virtually > create half a game instantly (and is therefore stupid). That the idea let the designers have what they need now, and you coder boys can go, and reinvent the wheal all you like who gives a fuck. > -Murray Your the one how misunderstood. I knew you were joking. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 01:15:09 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 01:15:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26041 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA11265 for amos-out; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11262 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco6-109.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.109]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27683 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp29-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.78]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA16568 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:20:00 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 23:25:04 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Mush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Sorry, I don't have your email address and I'm too lazy to go to the website, so when are you coming up to Canada, Mush? 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(519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 03:08:09 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 03:08:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22912 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:08:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA12964 for amos-out; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12961 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:37:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA28244 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30985 invoked from network); 3 Mar 1998 06:37:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@205.246.88.107) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 3 Mar 1998 06:37:03 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 01:38:25 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Mush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Sorry, I don't have your email address and I'm too lazy to go to the website, > so when are you coming up to Canada, Mush? > Hmm, I womdered why the GUI Guide didnt get updated too much, hehe ;) Well, if my wife goes to montreal next month for work (she will be integrating some logistics stuff) then I'll be going with her, so I can train (or do you americans/canadans call it "subway-ing") it down to where you are. Depends on what goes on tho, if they want me to do some net stuff for them, then I guess I might not be able to make it =/ Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/f1software/ Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 18:39:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 18:39:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20950 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA15731 for amos-out; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15728 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (ehp-1.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA02671 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id ac0120827; 3 Mar 98 19:04 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Amos List Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 00:33:05 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On Monday 02-Mar-98 at 02:28:58, a nutter named Eric Hyland had wet pants when they typed about `Re: My Amos wish list.'. >> Murry said... >> How about a command MAKE GAME where you just type in a >> description of the game (in any language) and it is automatically >> made? >Thats a stupid idea, but typical of a coders mentality. You coders have all >the creativity of a rock which is why most games suck. If some one gives us >designers a language that we can really use than you will see what games are >suppose to be like. Why don't you STOP coding then? Design away until your hearts content and let the programmers do the hard work. If you're such a good designer, why haven't you designed the best selling game yet? I guess you want the best of both worlds. Design and code? But it seems to me like you can't do either by what I've read in your email! Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you certainly don't seem to belong on this list! This list is for Amos coders, not some self hyped up guy who thinks he is the bee's knees at designing! >How about making Amos artificially intelligent, and give it a voice >recognition >system, so you can explain your ideas to it, and it will create the code? You don't want much do you? I bet you even want a remote control that can open and shut the curtains for you? In fact, I bet you even designed a system that does that already :) Eric, do us a BIG favour, send in your design ideas and we'll tell you if it's feasible or not. Only the coders can REALLY tell you if it is possible or not. Work with programmers, not against. We all have to work together these days. No point in holding all the fame to yourself. So c'mon, what is the next big game you are designing? Tarra.... -- ***************************************************************** *_______/\_____/\_______/\_____/\ * *\ /\ ___/\ /\ ___/ Andy Gibson <---------------- * * \_/\ / /\/| _ \_/\ / \/ \ ----------> aka SKiDZ/Area 51 * * / _/ / / |_| // _/ / __\ \ * * \// / \___ / \// / /__ / andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk * * /_/ \_/ /_/ \_/ <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> * * pRODUCTiONS 9T8 * ***************************************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 13:15:35 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 3 13:15:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22726 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA00107 for amos-out; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:08:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00104 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:08:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA15174 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:08:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2042 invoked from network); 3 Mar 1998 16:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.75) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 3 Mar 1998 16:08:12 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:09:35 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Report 02-Mar-98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Aahh... now the Mushroom PD is the new official AMOS PD Library :) Have a > look... at least now we have again a official and working library. Come on, > submit your material, comments and ideas. Your source code/compiled programs can be emailed directly to me at mushypd@redrose.net (in a packed form, such as Lha or LZX) with a small .Readme file attatched. If you have access to an FTP client, then upload them to mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org (logging in as anonymous) and placing them in /pub/amos/incoming/ A new (and large!) MPD Report will be released in less than a week's time. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 08:57:53 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 08:57:53 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28920 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA07123 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07120 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA26576 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22919 invoked from network); 4 Mar 1998 11:16:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp12-2.redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.66) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 4 Mar 1998 11:16:40 -0000 Received: by mushypd.redrose.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00kbu; Wed, 4 Mar 98 06:17:36 GMT Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 06:17:36 GMT Message-Id: <9803040617.AA00kbt@mushypd.redrose.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: Alex Borodin (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: [AMOSList] Re: AMOS Now being updated! What should be added? Status: O X-Status: Ben Hutchings wrote: > > In article <34F3A1B0.6C2B1141@qrail.com.au>, > Alex Borodin wrote: > >Ben Hutchings wrote: > > >That's why you have to run services like FTP, Telnet and NFS over the > >top of it to get any useful human-level transmission happening. TCP/IP > >is a transport. > > You are making the mistake of talking about TCP/IP as if it is a > single protocol. I have no idea what you mean by "human-level" > transmission, nor why it should be relevant to a question of > suitability for use in programming. I meant a user sending files or other data (either in real-time or not) over the network. Example - FTP'ing a file. Example - flying his jet fighter simulator over the network. As for relevancy, well, that's for the individual to decide. > The TCP: device is normally mounted as part of the AmiTCP startup > procedure, using a handler which is supplised with the package. It > allows you to make and use TCP connections by opening the file > "TCP:host.domain/port", if I remember correctly. I see. Very handy, by the looks of things > >Sounds really useful, but it still won't allow AMOS to transmit > >commands and data using sockets. > > Not with the socket semantics, no. Nor will it be suitable for > real-time games, which was my whole point. :-) No it wasn't, that was MY point! MINE MINE MINE MINE! :-) cheers, -- o Alex Borodin B.Eng(Hons) o Queensland Rail o Software and Systems Engineer o Ph: +61-7-3235-2482 o Signal and Operational Systems o Fax:+61-7-3235-2747 "What you do is what you are. As a man thinketh, so he -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 07:48:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 07:48:43 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13399 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA07128 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07125 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA14161 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22923 invoked from network); 4 Mar 1998 11:16:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp12-2.redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.66) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 4 Mar 1998 11:16:42 -0000 Received: by mushypd.redrose.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00kbz; Wed, 4 Mar 98 06:17:49 GMT Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 06:17:49 GMT Message-Id: <9803040617.AA00kby@mushypd.redrose.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: Alex Borodin (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: [AMOSList] Re: AMOS Now being updated! What should be added? Status: O X-Status: Branko Collin wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:16:08 +0000, paulc@hectortd.demon.co.uk (Paul > Copsey) wrote: > > >In <34f33545.39309273@news.xs4all.nl>, > > Branko Collin wrote: > >> No offense meant, but this is exactly the kind of stuff I don't want > >> to know when programming in AMOS. :) I want to write to a certain > >> position and I want to read from a certain position. How that works > >> internally I don't care about. If I can do the reading and writing in > >> a way I am already familiar with, the better. > > > >But the way you are familiar with isn't the best way, IIRC the > >overheads on using TCP over UDP would be significant if you were > >trying to use it for games. > > I am not talking about networking protocols (assuming UDP is a > protocol), but about the complexity of using these protocols. I was > glad when I found out about TCP: It was so much easier than opening > sockets using the library. I would assume that if AMOS had socket support, you would still be able to access the TCP: device exactly like you can now? There's no-one forcing you to use sockets if you really hate them and especially if you don't have a practical application for them. -- o Alex Borodin B.Eng(Hons) o Queensland Rail o Software and Systems Engineer o Ph: +61-7-3235-2482 o Signal and Operational Systems o Fax:+61-7-3235-2747 "What you do is what you are. As a man thinketh, so he -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 04:28:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 04:28:17 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09806 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA03944 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03941 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA22254 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA21934; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:07:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:07:01 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. To: Andy Gibson cc: Amos List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Andy Gibson wrote: > On Monday 02-Mar-98 at 02:28:58, a nutter named Eric Hyland > had wet pants when they typed about `Re: My Amos wish list.'. > > > >> Murry said... > >> How about a command MAKE GAME where you just type in a > >> description of the game (in any language) and it is automatically > >> made? > > >Thats a stupid idea, but typical of a coders mentality. You coders have all > >the creativity of a rock which is why most games suck. If some one gives us > >designers a language that we can really use than you will see what games are > >suppose to be like. > > Why don't you STOP coding then? Design away until your hearts content > and let the programmers do the hard work. If you're such a good Wish I could now any one who needs a designer? > designer, why haven't you designed the best selling game yet? I have, but being a good designer, and only a mediocre coder I can't tackle the tough stuff needed to make the game. > I guess you want the best of both worlds. Design and code? But it > seems to me like you can't do either by what I've read in your email! > Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you certainly don't seem to belong on > this list! This list is for Amos coders, not some self hyped up guy > who thinks he is the bee's knees at designing! Your forgiven for being wrong. If you had read my original E-Mail on this sub. then you might have figured out that what I am after are some new tools ,and commands that will make it easier to make 3D games, just as Amos has tools, and commands to make 2D games. To sort of quote some thing I read "The hardest thing about making new RPG's these days is you first have to reinvent Quake". It is my hope that a new Amos will come with a easy to use prefabricated 3D engine, so the mediocre coders like my self don't have to try to reinvent Quake gust to make a new game. And this list is for any one who uses Amos, or is trying to use Amos, not just four you hot dog coder types. > >How about making Amos artificially intelligent, and give it a voice > >recognition > >system, so you can explain your ideas to it, and it will create the code? > > You don't want much do you? I bet you even want a remote control that > can open and shut the curtains for you? In fact, I bet you even > designed a system that does that already :) I gather that you don't understand that, that was an example of the differences between coder thinking "type in description" which is like coding, and designer thinking talk with Amos which is like working with another person. I don't expect Amos3 to work like that, but I can envision a future software development system working like that. > Eric, do us a BIG favour, send in your design ideas and we'll tell you > if it's feasible or not. Only the coders can REALLY tell you if it is > possible or not. I not an idiot I know that the present Amiga can't handle my full game design, but it can handle the little 15mb one. > Work with programmers, not against. We all have to work together these > days. No point in holding all the fame to yourself. So c'mon, what is > the next big game you are designing? Its called Privateer Elite If you think you can handle it send me a 360 3D single fixed point 4 color (white,light gray,dark gray,and a few MWB peach) star field with smoke gray stellar gas clouds (like the blue ones in frontier)on a black background in a Star Trek 25 sized bridge screen capable of forward, and reverse views, and to show movement I need frontier type space dust, but not as many particles. This needs to be controlled by a CD32 JoyPad Up pitch down, Down pitch up, right yaw 360+, left yaw 360-, FF roll 360+, RR roll 360-, Y accelerate, B decelerate, G+Up forward view, G+down reverse view. > Tarra.... If you didn't guess this is for a Frontier Elite type game want to make it a list game? Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 06:24:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 06:24:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13508 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA05626 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05623 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from antares.utu.fi (antares.utu.fi [130.232.1.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA19868 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by utu.fi with SMTP id <30970-9031>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:48:10 +0200 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:48:06 +0200 (EET) Sender: samali@utu.fi From: Sasu Lintula To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: line-drawing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Could someone assembler-user write a blitter line-drawing routine for me? I need a routine which simply draws line from up to down (same x-coord). Please, I really need it. I have tried to write it myself, but I can't make it work properly (yez, I'm a coder-wizard;P). It would be nice if I could set registers with following values: Screen address, Y1, DeltaY and texture(word). Please, please, please....:) SLin From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 08:58:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 08:58:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10208 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:58:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA07936 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07933 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from asdo.se (gateway.asdo.se [194.218.132.33]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA21842 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:01:47 -0500 (EST) From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Received: from asdogate.asdo.se ([194.132.65.82]) by gateway.asdo.se with ESMTP id <28673>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:01:56 +0100 Received: by asdogate.asdo.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:02:04 +0100 Message-ID: <0C16986DE489D111860D00A024A419070E22BF@G02_STHLEX.asdo.se> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: AMOS3 and DT Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:02:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: How about give AMOS 3 support for datatypes? If AGA why not DTs Since new datatypes are developed all the time it would be easy add/update support for picture/sound loading. Just a thought anyway... From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 10:26:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 10:26:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20829 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09654 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09651 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23160 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:26:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12652 invoked from network); 4 Mar 1998 13:26:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.66) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 4 Mar 1998 13:26:09 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 08:27:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: FD Extension available for download MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: The AMOSPro FD extension is now available for download from my homepage at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/fd.html Please read the instructions carefully before downloading and using. At this time, im compiling a list of all .FD files I can find, such as MUI etc., so bookmark the page and keep coming back to get the updated lists. If you have an .FD file that isnt listed (and have documentation for the commands the library contains) then feel free to send it to me. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 15:54:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 15:54:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24609 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:54:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20118 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:50:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20114 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from bianca.scs.com.br (bianca.scs.com.br [200.231.154.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02046 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:50:47 -0500 (EST) From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br Received: from tecnopro.com.br.tecnopro.com.br (ras4 [200.231.154.33]) by bianca.scs.com.br (8.8.5/SCO5) with SMTP id OAA14176 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:51:59 -0300 (EST) From(scs.com.br): erico@www.tecnopro.com.br Message-Id: <199803041751.OAA14176@bianca.scs.com.br> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:51:44 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE:.<<>> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Status: RO X-Status: as said... > Yeah! After 5 years of desolation, now there is a new HOPE! Finally i've > concluded a important bid.... after a long (...about 1 year) dialog with > Francois Lionet i've obtained the AMOS source code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best news! > > The development can restart.... but is a very difficult task! There are > > about 3MB(!) of ASM sources *without* docs, and few comments (..in > > french) in the code :(((( and so i must spend *a lot* of time for understand > > how it works before upgrade it. Whishlists... >> I'm making a little wishlist of features, but the only thing I WILL >> ask is that the system requirements be kept as low as possible. >> Like, when (not IF I hope :), AGA support is put into amos, it will >> still work on non-aga machines! Just a personal opinion on this , don't take it personally (James) If possible , extend the language to be a full new generation machine compatible-only and for it. Would piss us off and force us to choose a new amiga But if that is what we wanna see , it would help on the amiga comeback and help software development on the new plataform. See ya! ----------------------------------------------------------- Ahoy! You got this from Erico Monteiro Email: erico@tecnopro.com.br Work Url: www.tecnopro.com.br Barca Furada Url: www.angelfire.com/ak/gamecreation "If you can't find me or encounter any problem... ...call the president" ----------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 14:06:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 14:06:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04092 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA14569 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:04:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14565 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco14-124.cas.golden.net [207.216.78.124]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19219 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:04:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp3-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.52]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA22868 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:58:26 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:04:14 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Extensions, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 04-Mar-98, Andy Kellett wrote: >The AMOSPro FD extension is now available for download from my homepage at >http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/fd.html I've noticed a new 3d library on Aminet. Anyone feel up to looking it over and setting up some amos procs to take advantage of it? Maybe someone could use it as the core of the much-touted possible 3d graphics extension for AMOS? Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 23:09:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 23:09:39 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24039 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22706 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:50:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22696 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:50:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18462 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:49:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from p30-owlet-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.123.90]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA19699; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:49:53 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 3 Mar 98 23:54:30 +0000 Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. Message-Id: <34FC9835.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: EricHyland, amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > Unrealistic how? > > #1 bobs & sprites that can be rotated and scaled like Apple soft vector > > graphics. > > #2 3D bobs like that mushy raycasting thing. > > #3 to be able to load a IFF as a background, or FOREGROUND. > > #4 collision detection between 2D, and 3D obj's. These are complicated commands and whereas these ARE possible, you would moan that they were too slow because they would have to have all sorts of checking to ensure against your lack of deisgn specifications. > > #7 translucent screens, so I can open 3 256 Hi Res screen, so I can draw > > background on 1, midground on 2, and foreground on 3. (mem should be the > > only limit) > > #8 milti screen collision detection system for #7. These commands are a joke. > > #9 new 3D modeler with point & click coloring (select color from pallet then > > click on face,face changes to that color), surface detailing on the faces not > > on a grid, surface detailing tools (line,dot,square,circle.), shape modiling > > on the shape (pulling she 3D obj to form it), bent face modeling, in side > > out function (for working on the inside of the obj), real color shape system > > , assign number or colors command( 2,256 ), assign color block command(if a > > obj has 4 colors you can get that block of 4 colors from 0 to 253), get > > pallet command(load pallet from IFF). > > #10 3D map maker > > #11 2D map maker > > #12 move map commands up, down, right, left, and rotate & scale. > > #13 3D obj texture bit maping. > > #14 light sourcing command. Light Sourcing command???? Come on.... realise something, to code on an amiga you have to be tight and controlled with your code. If AMOS provided all these commands (which is not going to happen) then because they would be general rather than game specific (like coders actually have to code to be as optimal as possible) they would be FAR TOO SLOW and a complete nightmare for whichever fool tried to create the commands. > That the idea let the designers have what they need now, and you coder boys > can go, and reinvent the wheal all you like who gives a fuck. I think theres something you need to know. AMOS is a PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE.... FOR CODERS!!!! It is not a games designing system. Go and make something with SEUCK. I'm sure you'll have NO complaints whatsoever about that. > Your the one how misunderstood. I knew you were joking. I'm sorry, I found your English a little confusing in places. -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 20:46:35 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 20:46:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24119 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA25711 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:27:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25707 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08340 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:26:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21465 invoked from network); 4 Mar 1998 19:26:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.134) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 4 Mar 1998 19:26:24 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 14:27:44 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Extensions, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > On 04-Mar-98, Andy Kellett wrote: >> AMOSPro FD extension is now available for download from my homepage at >> ://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/fd.html > I've noticed a new 3d library on Aminet. Anyone feel up to looking it over and > setting up some amos procs to take advantage of it? Maybe someone could use it > as the core of the much-touted possible 3d graphics extension for AMOS? I noticed one of them too. It has an .FD file (I downloaded ALL of util/libs EEK) so can be used. I'll maybe have a quick go at it later, but maybe Andy Hawkins or someone who uses the 3D extension, might be better at doing this. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 22:03:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 4 22:02:59 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01975 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26525 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:36:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26522 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:36:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09934 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from p02-barbet-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.56.62]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAE17857; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:36:49 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 4 Mar 98 18:58:41 +0000 Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. Message-Id: <34FDA461.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: EricHyland, amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > "The hardest thing about making new RPG's these days is you first have to > reinvent Quake". It is my hope that a new Amos will come with a easy to use > prefabricated 3D engine, so the mediocre coders like my self don't have to > try to reinvent Quake gust to make a new game. Why reinvent Quake? If you're so good, invent something new!!!! And like your going to get a Quake game running on AMOS..... come on, get a grip. > I gather that you don't understand that, that was an example of the > differences between coder thinking "type in description" which is like > coding, and designer thinking talk with Amos which is like working with > another person. I don't expect Amos3 to work like that, but I can envision > a future software development system working like that. I was going to respond to that but I'm sure EVERYONE knows that you are just talking irrelevant crap so I won't waste my time. > Its called Privateer Elite If you think you can handle it send me a 360 3D > single fixed point 4 color (white,light gray,dark gray,and a few MWB peach) > star field with smoke gray stellar gas clouds (like the blue ones in > blah blah blah Sounds very original!!! What a GREAT designer you must be to come up with something as good as that!! Wish I'd thought of it! > If you didn't guess this is for a Frontier Elite type game want to make it > a list game? As I've said before. If you want to do complicated 3D stuff then AMOS isn't for you (well at least until AMOS gets updated alot and the amiga gets more powerful) You CAN make nice 3D games but you need a bit of skill and to know what you can and can't do with it, its not easy. -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 02:11:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 02:11:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25190 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:11:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10588 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10585 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA11138 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9694 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 01:32:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp14-46.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.110) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 01:32:22 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00kmt; Wed, 4 Mar 98 19:56:15 GMT Message-Id: <9803041956.AA00kms@mushypd.desupernet.net> Reply-To: Mushroom PD Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:56:14 X-Mailer: MPDMailpost by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpost multi-personell mailer program X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer From: Mushroom PD (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: MPD Announcement: AMOSPro FD Extension Released - Most powerful yet!! Status: O X-Status: AMOSPro Extension Release - FD Extension V1.0 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ever wanted your AMOSPro programs to have more power, by using things like MPEG video, datatypes, AHI, multi-langual translation, or lots more? Now this is possible through the new FD Developers kit, which enables you to convert regular AmigaDOS libraries directly into usable extensions. AMOSPro FD Extension is a powerfull new extension just released for AMOSPro. It allows you to convert the .FD and includes from almost any AmigaDOS library, and transform it into an extension ready for immediate use! This powerful tool has been written by Pietro Ghizzoni, author of the excellent GUI extension. The extension will allow you to use any number of FD files, and will compile them all into the 1 extension, so that you dont have to worry about many different files lying around the place. Once compiled, the extension made goes into slot 25 of your configuration. The extension is available for download from my homepages at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/fd.html along with a selection of libraries for immediate use. The list of libraries I have found at the moment are listed at the end of this mail. If you would like the extension emailed to you instead, simply contact me at mushypd@redrose.net and I will send you the file. Known Libraries -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The following is a list of libraries that contain FD files. I havent tried to use any of these libraries yet, so if anyone experiences problems, they should contact me, telling me which library they were using, and the problems they encountered. On the FD extension page, these libraries have links so you can download them directly from Aminet. You can also read the information .readme file on each archive to check if it is the one you want. If you have any FD libraries (with documentation) that dont appear hear, then archive the whole library, sources, docs, and other pieces and email it to me. All of these files will also be on the Mushroom PD FTP site in the next day or 2. BigNum.lha util/libs 84K Multiprecision Integer Library 37.28 BigNum_37.28.lha util/libs 50K Multiprecision Integer Library 37.28 board217.lha util/libs 25K Boards.library V 2.17 - 375 Expansion bo cdplay370.lha util/libs 33K Library for playing audio cd`s ConfigFile.lha util/libs 86K Lib to easy handle of cfg files V1.2 ConLib.lha util/libs 64K Run time reentrant library . V2.00 cwrlib31.lha util/libs 31K New version of this fast console handlin datamaster_lib.lha util/libs 106K V2.0 - MODULAR,flexible recognition lib DateLib.lha util/libs 194K Library to help you calculate dates dbplayer.lha util/libs 189K Digi Booster replayer as Shared library DFunc38.7.lha util/libs 84K Multipurpose library, GUI/TXT/GFX/DISC + DigNet.lha util/libs 165K Easy serial network handle with AREXX DOSPath.lha util/libs 29K Handle AmigaDOS path lists (V1.0) dslibrary.lha util/libs 24K Datastruct library dtypeslib453.lha util/libs 203K New datatypes.library, V45.3, + AREXX + easyFFT.lha util/libs 27K V2.0 - A shared library to do FFT ExpName22.lha util/libs 46K Get full expansion board names from ID ( famel400.lha util/libs 41K Public shared function library, V4.00. FIDLib70.lha util/libs 138K File-Identify Library V7.0 graphics3d.lha util/libs 156K 3D graphics shared library V10.10(beta) Identify.lha util/libs 145K ListExp, identifies expansions and more IdentifyDev.lha util/libs 71K ListExp, identifies expansions and more iff.library-23.lha util/libs 74K IFF graphics library IFFLIB22.lha util/libs 70K iff.library V22.3, works on 68000 again Intoids.lha util/libs 128K Efficient large & small integer math+IO. Intuisup47.lha util/libs 558K Intuition Support Library v4.7 Locator.lha util/libs 24K Easy to use library to localize progs al Maestix.lha util/libs 104K MaestroPro driver V41.30 + AHI driver V2 mpega_library.lha util/libs 166K MPEG Audio decoder library V1.0 (68020+) MToolLibrary.lha util/libs 35K A shared library for the Amiga MultiReq.lha util/libs 63K FileRequester library MXMLib.lha util/libs 47K Library of basic support functions. V34. newfmt.lha util/libs 14K New way to format strings (like in DOpus NotInt24.lha util/libs 34K Notifyintuition.library V2.40 P61Lib.lha util/libs 32K Player 6.1 replayer library PatchLib.lha util/libs 161K Highlevel replacement for Setfunction V6 PointerLib.lha util/libs 31K Shared library, easy access to pointers pplib16.lha util/libs 84K powerpacker.library plus tools queue.lzh util/libs 28K Message queue library QuickDOS.lha util/libs 27K QuickDOS is an Amiga library to cache fi regexp.lha util/libs 30K Library for BSDish patternmatching RegExpLib.lha util/libs 8K Shared lib of regexp pattern matching . ReqToolsDev.lha util/libs 299K ReqTools 2.9 - the requester toolkit (de script.lzh util/libs 30K Script.library, replaces G/SetRexxVar() shutdown.lzh util/libs 46K Shutdown command SSLib51.lha util/libs 55K New version of MJSoft's ss.library taglist11.lha util/libs 18K taglist support ToolLib.lha util/libs 65K Shared library of 45 useful functions. V translator42.lha util/libs 80K Multilingual translator lib replacement type1beta9.lha util/libs 258K Type1library (v1.4,beta9) - postscript f ulib4271.lha util/libs 113K Unpacker library, knows more than 180 cr VirtualMem12.lha util/libs 25K Smart virtual memory (requires no MMU) WBStart.lha util/libs 26K Emulate program starting from WB (V2.2) xfa_library.lha util/libs 90K XFA Developer's Kit from ClassX (v1.15) xfd119.lha util/libs 155K XFD package Release 1.19 Thanks for taking the time to read this file, and I hope you open the power of your AMOSPro programs very very soon! Andrew "Mushrom" Kellett Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 01:48:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 01:48:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA05110 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10148 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10145 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA15153 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4161 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 01:17:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.110) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 01:17:33 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 20:05:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Gui 1.70 FAQ + Tutorial ideas wanted! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Does anyone have any ideas for tutorials in the new GUI Extension releases? I can cover the basic stuff, such as gadget types etc. which will be in there as standard, as well as the problem of opening on graphics cards etc. What I need, is some really good ideas to work along with. I also want to know what kind of questions you have for the FAQ section, as I only have the basics there. Think of anything good, because believe me, the OS devkit looks pants compare to Gui V1.70!! Pietro, just 2 simple questions: 1) How do I change the name of my Pubscreen to what I want it 2) Is there a simple way to change the text of a button? Oh well, see ya soon! Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 01:44:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 01:44:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00545 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10158 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10155 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00913 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4175 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 01:17:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.110) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 01:17:35 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 20:09:18 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: New Compiler ideas wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: As some of you know, ive been working on the new GUI Compiler (which will also work with the regular compiler, as it will run on GFX cards too) and wanted to hear everybody's ideas for what to include. Ive put the complete basics in, as with the V1.62 gui compiler, and also added error messages (missing from V1.62). Ive also give it the option to open on a Pubscreen of your choice, and it has an interface which has some MWB pics on it over top of buttons. All feedback is appreciated, as I want to make this program so that everyone can use it. Oh, and it runs at the same time as AMOSPro, so you can compile whilst on the fly! Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 01:13:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 01:13:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19119 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10215 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:24:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10212 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.tor.acc.ca (mail0.tor.acc.ca [204.92.54.110]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05917 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ican.net (ppp-144.m4-1.ssm.ican.net [206.248.78.144]) by mail0.tor.acc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA18566 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:24:38 -0500 (EST) From: Cori Skagen Reply-To: cskagen@ican.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 20:24:37 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: none Subject: need help rotating a map!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, I'm making a dungeon game its levels are 50x50 stored in an array I need some code to rotate this map 90 degrees in either direction.. could anyone help me with this? Any help would be appreciated. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cori Skagen cskagen@ican.net Cori.Skagen@saultc.on.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 01:35:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 01:35:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA06709 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:35:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10689 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10686 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:39:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (ehp-1.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA21025 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab0123944; 5 Mar 98 1:23 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003k8; Thu, 5 Mar 98 01:23:25 GMT Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 01:23:25 GMT Message-Id: <9803050123.AA003k3@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25f1bf8a.u10t12e.351c2-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from "Mr. Giark To You" ) (at Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:04:14 -0500) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Extensions, etc. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id UAA10687 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Mr., > I've noticed a new 3d library on Aminet. Anyone feel up to looking it over and > setting up some amos procs to take advantage of it? Maybe someone could use it > as the core of the much-touted possible 3d graphics extension for AMOS? Already on it ;-) _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "Give me back my dice." |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | - Roland Copping (Frauds) | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 01:21:23 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 01:21:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA03563 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA13963 for amos-out; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13960 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:51:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from radiks.net (sr.radiks.net [205.138.126.6]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28751 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from skid-vis (dial92.radiks.net [205.138.126.160]) by radiks.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA10651 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:51:36 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980304214755.0069eaf8@radiks.net> X-Sender: skid@radiks.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:47:55 -0600 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: TSI Subject: stupid me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: Hiya all, Ok, so I'm a little slow. But can someone please explain to me what a .fd file is and how it would be useful for AMOS? I've never used extensions and am not really too sure as to why I would. So will someone please enlighten me on these matters? Mushy? Anyone? Thanx in advantz. ----------------ICQ# 1860019------------------- -------"To Transcendence and BEYOND!!!"-------- --Original Art, stories, & all original minds-- ------- http://www.radiks.net/skid/ ----------- ----------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 02:53:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 02:53:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12989 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA16108 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA16105 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA29156 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:13:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 297 invoked by alias); 5 Mar 1998 05:13:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 289 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 05:13:42 -0000 Received: from 1cust178.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.178) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 05:13:42 -0000 Message-ID: <001901bd47f5$7e42ab60$b210fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Just a small bit of info. Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:13:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: To take up a minute of your time: For those who care [everyone needs to know these things] :) I'm off to Dallas (Texas) for the next couple of days (for a few, actually: till Sunday) to check up on a job opportunity and look around the town and such (for a possible move). If you mail me, just wait for a response (hehe, I'll reply to it after I read through all the mail that's piled up here)! Also: I haven't read much of my mail for the past couple of days (haven't had time really). Most of it has been the talk on the the AMOS updates and unceasing "upgrade" war. Anyhow, I'll be reading it all when I get back. Now you're informed. Thanks for reading. We now end this breif message. :D Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 03:59:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 03:59:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA26094 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA18148 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18145 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA15219 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA27259; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:05:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:05:34 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. To: Alastair Murray cc: EricHyland , amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: <34FC9835.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 3 Mar 1998, Alastair Murray wrote: >> Unrealistic how? > >>> #1 bobs & sprites that can be rotated and scaled like Apple soft vector >>> graphics. This is all ready being worked on. >>> #2 3D bobs like that mushy raycasting thing. This I think is as well, and will work as fast as #1 >>> #3 to be able to load a IFF as a background, or FOREGROUND. Amos loads IFF's as backgrounds. Amos 3D treats them as foreground NOW!!! >>> #4 collision detection between 2D, and 3D obj's. This should have been done when Amos 3D came out. > These are complicated commands and whereas these ARE possible, you > would moan that they were too slow because they would have to have all > sorts of checking to ensure against your lack of deisgn > specifications. Amigas will be faster in the future you do know that IBM had 68k production restarted don't you? >>> #7 translucent screens, so I can open 3 256 Hi Res screen, so I can draw >>> background on 1, midground on 2, and foreground on 3. (mem should be the >>> only limit) >>> #8 milti screen collision detection system for #7. > > These commands are a joke. I guess you never heard of DUAL PLAYFIELD this isn't hardware, but then again neither is 64 color bobs. >>> #9 new 3D modeler with point & click coloring (select color from pallet then >>> click on face,face changes to that color), surface detailing on the faces not >>> on a grid, surface detailing tools (line,dot,square,circle.), shape modiling >>> on the shape (pulling she 3D obj to form it), bent face modeling, in side >>> out function (for working on the inside of the obj), real color shape system >>> , assign number or colors command( 2,256 ), assign color block command(if a >>> obj has 4 colors you can get that block of 4 colors from 0 to 253), get >>> pallet command(load pallet from IFF). >>> #10 3D map maker >>> #11 2D map maker >>> #12 move map commands up, down, right, left, and rotate & scale. >>> #13 3D obj texture bit maping. >>> #14 light sourcing command. > > Light Sourcing command???? Come on.... realise something, to code on > an amiga you have to be tight and controlled with your code. If AMOS > provided all these commands (which is not going to happen) then > because they would be general rather than game specific (like coders > actually have to code to be as optimal as possible) they would be FAR > TOO SLOW and a complete nightmare for whichever fool tried to create > the commands. speed again see above, and this stuff isn't that far out, but I can live with out #13 & #14. >> That the idea let the designers have what they need now, and you coder boys >> can go, and reinvent the wheel all you like who gives a fuck. > > I think theres something you need to know. > > AMOS is a PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE.... FOR CODERS!!!! > It is not a games designing system. Go and make something with SEUCK. > I'm sure you'll have NO complaints whatsoever about that. Amos is a creators language if you want a coders language try Ace Basic. where do you get SEUCK from, and does it do 3D? >> Your the one how misunderstood. I knew you were joking. > > I'm sorry, I found your English a little confusing in places. > > -Murray Ok?. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 05:34:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 05:34:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22215 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20423 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20420 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA24276 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:01:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.51) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 03:58:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: need help rotating a map!! Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:12:01 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > I'm making a dungeon game its levels are 50x50 stored in an array > I need some code to rotate this map 90 degrees in either direction.. For the sake of simplicity, the code below assumes you're useing a two-dimensional array to store your map. Obviously, a one- dimensional array or particularly a binary array would be more effiecient, but you can apply the design to whatever method you're actually using... Okay, the idea is simple enough. To rotate your map counter clock wise, you need to transfer the map rows (top to bottom) to the map cols (left to right)... ABCDE EJOTY FGHIJ DINSX KLMNO CHMRW PQRST BGLQV UVWXY AFKPU And for clockwise rotation, you simply transfer the map rows (top to bottom) to the map cols (right to left)... ABCDE UPKFA FGHIJ VQLGB KLMNO WRMHC PQRST XSNID UVWXY YTOJE Of course, that is simply the way I am viewing it, you could look at the process in a number of ways, but moving on to the code...:) BTW- I'm on my PC and just did a quick test in C (these routines\ work fine), so if I make some syntax errors in the AMOS version (created on the fly below), you'll know why... I'm going to use a 5x5 matrix for this example, as my creation code fills a 5x5 MAP with the characters in the above examples... just change the MAPWIDTH and MAPHEIGHT values to 50. ---------------- Dim MAP(50,100) : Rem Double-height BUFFERED map... Shared MAP(), MAPBASE, MAPWIDTH, MAPHEIGHT Procedure ROTATEMAPLEFT DESTBASE=MAPHEIGHT-MAPBASE DESTCOL=0 For REP=0 To MAPHEIGHT-1 SOURCEROW=MAPBASE+REP DESTROW=DESTBASE+(MAPHEIGHT-1) For SOURCECOL=0 To MAPWIDTH-1 MAP(DESTCOL,DESTROW)=MAP(SOURCECOL,SOURCEROW) Dec DESTROW Next SOURCECOL Inc DESTCOL Next REP MAPBASE=DESTBASE End Proc Procedure ROTATEMAPRIGHT DESTBASE=MAPHEIGHT-MAPBASE DESTCOL=MAPWIDTH-1 For REP=0 To MAPHEIGHT-1 SOURCEROW=MAPBASE+REP DESTROW=DESTBASE For SOURCECOL=0 To MAPWIDTH-1 MAP(DESTCOL,DESTROW)=MAP(SOURCECOL,SOURCEROW) Inc DESTROW Next SOURCECOL Dec DESTCOL Next REP MAPBASE=DESTBASE End Proc Procedure MAPVIEW For YPOS=0 To MAPHEIGHT-1 Print " "; For XPOS=0 To MAPWIDTH-1 Print Chr$(MAP(XPOS,MAPBASE+YPOS)); Next XPOS Print Next YPOS End Proc ' ---------------------------- ' MAIN CODE HERE '----------------------------- MAPBASE=0 : Rem Toggled between 0 and 5 for buffering MAPWIDTH=5 : MAPHEIGHT=5 Print "Initializing Map..." : PRINT TILE=Asc("A") For YPOS=0 To MAPHEIGHT-1 For XPOS=0 To MAPWIDTH-1 MAP(XPOS,MAPBASE+YPOS)=TILE Add TILE,1,Asc("A") To Asc("Z") Next XPOS Next YPOS Print "Map defined as follows:" MAPVIEW Print "Original Map rotated CounterClockWise:" ROTATEMAPLEFT MAPVIEW Print "Original Map rotated ClockWise:" ROTATEMAPRIGHT : ROTATEMAPRIGHT MAPVIEW Wait Key End ---------------- Everytime you call these rotation functions, the MAPBASE is changed, so you'll need to use MAPBASE+ROW to access your map. I used a buffered design as this is faster than having to copy your MAP into a temporary workbuffer then rotate "back" to the MAP array... Anyway, hope this helps... :-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com VerticalShooter(PC): 52% complete(...23 days) NEW!! (DemoVersion0.52 available on my GAMES-page) NEW!! Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 06:34:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 06:34:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20239 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20535 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20532 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA28976 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21268 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 09:12:39 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 09:12:39 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.35]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA63040; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:12:36 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: TSI , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:07:25 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980304214755.0069eaf8@radiks.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: stupid me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 05-Mar-98, TSI smashed the keyboard with: > Hiya all, > Ok, so I'm a little slow. But can someone please explain to me what a .fd > file is and how it would be useful for AMOS? I've never used extensions and > am not really too sure as to why I would. So will someone please enlighten > me on these matters? Mushy? Anyone? Better late than ever, ey :) Ok, let's start with the basics, the AMIGA uses a set of standard libraries to do almost anything, the advantage is that with new models (like AGA) you just get a new library. Unfortunaly some programers write their own commands to take care of eg. GFX and disc-operations and that's one of the main reasons for some older games not working on AGA/KS2.0+.. Normaly AMOS handles the access to libraries without you noticing, it's caling the 'exec.library' when you need memory (Banks), it calls 'dos.library' to handle disc and devices. (Funny note: when you're accessing a library with 'open library' on AMOS, you actualy call a function in 'exec.library').. The number of libraries is increasing rapidly, some are more usefull that others, but they all serve a purpose. As AMOS is not updated (until now) then there are many interesting calls that are not included. One of the most importaint is the 'locale.library', two AMOS-extensions opens up for that, but as standard AMOS can't handle it. Anyway what the new extension does is giving you easy access to some of those great supporting libraries (just look in 'libs:' on your HD, you should have at least 30 there if you're using the amiga for anything other than games..) You can ofcourse always begin a big dissucion on what libraries should be included for use (I'd like to see more of the 'standard' libraries there, but that's just a personal note..).. If you're making games, there's proberly not much to find in the list that we've seen, but for utilities there's endless possibilities. A neat feature is access to the high-accurate calc-libs and detection of expansion boards on the system.. I think the same about libs as I think about AMOS-extensions, it all comes down to what you're making with AMOS.. There's a few usefull extensions and libraries for games, countless for utilities... And, just a thought, why not write games supporting 'locale.library' so anyone can make a version in another language ???.. Ok, enough blah... FD-files.. This is a set of files mainly used by C-programers, they could also come of use for AMIGA-Basic and Blitz users. They are basicaly just a list of the functions for the libraries, they define what parameters are needed, and in which registers the information is passed. For C-programers this is a 'front' for the library that ensures that they don't write something stupid and crashes the computer with wrong parameters. The new extensions is (as far as I can see) a similar front for AMOS, that takes care of syntaxes and formating for the functions... Hope it helps :) -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Earth: is 98% full... please delete anyone you can. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 02:25:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 02:25:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16600 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA04318 for amos-out; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 00:59:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04315 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 00:59:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00999 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 00:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from login.eunet.no (login.eunet.no [193.71.1.4]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19919 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 06:59:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mortenbo@login.eunet.no) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc9.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.9]) by login.eunet.no (8.8.6/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id GAA08469 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 06:59:37 +0100 (MET) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Wed, 03 May 1978 14:56:18 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Extensions and AGA. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello. Since Mush dont reply to my mails, i'll try to ask my questions here and maybee some of you care to ansver me. 1. When will the Gui extension V1.7 be released, and will it let me use aga in my productios, or will i only be able to show a AGA picture with the GUI extension?? 2. Is the new version of OS devkit released, and where can i get it from??? That's all. Morten Bolstad (mortenbo@login.eunet.no) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 10:11:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 10:11:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00376 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23212 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:58:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23209 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from radiks.net (sr.radiks.net [205.138.126.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26355 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from skid-vis (dial92.radiks.net [205.138.126.160]) by radiks.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA21486 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:58:30 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980305055446.006a2538@radiks.net> X-Sender: skid@radiks.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 05:54:46 -0600 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: TSI Subject: stupid me part 2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: Hi again, Thanx Jens.. now for the second part.. how do I work with the fd.lha thingy mush put up? I have my directory for the .fd files.. do I need to put the .library files in that directory or do I put them in my Workbench libs or amos libs directory? Thanx again. ----------------ICQ# 1860019------------------- -------"To Transcendence and BEYOND!!!"-------- --Original Art, stories, & all original minds-- ------- http://www.radiks.net/skid/ ----------- ----------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 12:16:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 12:16:13 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14845 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA25837 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:50:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25834 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA26238 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23947 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 12:50:28 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 12:50:28 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.55]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA63370 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:50:26 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:41:13 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: FD-Extension.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, Ok, I've looked a bit at the FD-extension and it looks great to me, but as it's sort of a compiler that generates the extension-code while looking through the FD-files, I wonder if it were posible to make a version with a user-selected extension-number, as slot 25 allready has a long list of extensions while there are several that only hosts one (7 and 9 to be specific).. Becouse of the various FD files selected to be used by the various authors the extensions would not be compatible anyway, so it might as well be located where it suits the single developer best... -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Death is a nonmaskable interrupt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 10:58:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 10:58:59 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14063 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA25842 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25839 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:50:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07926 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23950 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 12:50:30 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 12:50:30 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.55]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB63370 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:50:28 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:45:52 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Future AMOS.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, To the new developers of AMOS Pro..... WE NEED MORE EXTENSION SLOTS... With the (hopefull) great new update of AMOS, chances are that the amount of users will grow, as a simple result we will get new extensions for various tricky things (kinda like the 'locale' extension) so the number of slots must be increased for these to find room.... -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You know it is going to be a bad day when you forget your new password. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 15:38:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 15:38:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08713 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA29900 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29897 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco14-124.cas.golden.net [207.216.78.124]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27047 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp7-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.56]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA26939 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:05:54 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:44:27 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Gui 1.70 FAQ + Tutorial ideas wanted! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 04-Mar-98, Andy Kellett wrote: >Does anyone have any ideas for tutorials in the new GUI Extension releases? Once I get the new one, I can do a tutorial on making an IRC client and using the tcp commands. >I also want to know what kind of questions you have for the FAQ section, -Why does the gui I design not look right when I use it? -GadToolsBox MUST be run on a non-interlace PAL hires screen using the Topaz/8 font. Remember to leave a bit of extra space in your buttons, too, since some of the proportional fonts can actually end up wider than the topaz font! Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 15:23:43 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 15:23:43 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20168 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA29975 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:13:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29972 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco14-124.cas.golden.net [207.216.78.124]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21831 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:13:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp7-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.56]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA27029 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:08:12 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:47:53 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New Compiler ideas wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 04-Mar-98, Andy Kellett wrote: >open on a Pubscreen of your choice, and it has an interface which has some >MWB pics on it over top of buttons. MAGIC FUCKING WORKBENCH?!? Are you trying to make it something that no one with a brain would use? MWB is the second best way to get me to toss a prg in the trash. First best is to use MUI. Unless you actually run MWB, pics from it look aboslutely hideous. Personally, I prefer buttons with words. Pics that seem easy to understand for one person are cryptic puzzles to another. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 14:17:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 14:17:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04109 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05163 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05156 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco14-124.cas.golden.net [207.216.78.124]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29966 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:11:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp7-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.56]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA28418 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:05:13 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:10:32 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Future AMOS.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 05-Mar-98, Jens Vang Petersen wrote: >users will grow, as a simple result we will get new extensions for various And the .fd prg needs to be able to define the extension slot, not always default to 25. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 18:26:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 18:26:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23716 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12534 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12531 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:46:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28162 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31122 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 17:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.158) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 17:46:03 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:47:25 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980305055446.006a2538@radiks.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: stupid me part 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Hi again, > Thanx Jens.. now for the second part.. how do I work with the fd.lha thingy > mush put up? > I have my directory for the .fd files.. do I need to put the .library files > in that directory or do I put them in my Workbench libs or amos libs > directory? Its a regular library, so it will go in LIBS: The extension which is compiled will go into the APSystem drawer in slot 25. I havent tried to compile any extensions at this time, so am unaware of any extra requirements by the program (such as library includes etc.). Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 16:42:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 16:42:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20368 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11997 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:19:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11994 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24700 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:19:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from p31-rhea-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.72.151]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA26387; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:18:58 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 5 Mar 98 16:48:21 +0000 Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. Message-Id: <34FED755.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: EricHyland, amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > >>> #1 bobs & sprites that can be rotated and scaled like Apple soft vector > >>> graphics. > This is all ready being worked on. By who? > >>> #3 to be able to load a IFF as a background, or FOREGROUND. > Amos loads IFF's as backgrounds. Amos 3D treats them as foreground NOW!!! No it doesn't. You have to load on to a seperate screen and THEN amos copys one screen over the other (very roughly described I think). You can do this with AMOS with the screen copy command but you'll probably need 3 screens open to do it.... memory! > >>> #4 collision detection between 2D, and 3D obj's. > This should have been done when Amos 3D came out. Yes but its not easy to do. > >>> #7 translucent screens, so I can open 3 256 Hi Res screen, so I can draw > >>> background on 1, midground on 2, and foreground on 3. (mem should be the > >>> only limit) > >>> #8 milti screen collision detection system for #7. > I guess you never heard of DUAL PLAYFIELD this isn't hardware, but then again > neither is 64 color bobs. Well I guess you don't know what dual playfield actually does! (being a designer and all) As far as I know you can't dual playfield 3 256 colour screens on AGA. On ECS you could do a couple of 8 colour screens but NOT 2 32 colour ones never mind 3 screens! On top of that... think of the memory usage!!! Find a sensible solution to translucent screens. Use a coding trick! You can't just expect hardware to do all these impossible things! > > Light Sourcing command???? Come on.... realise something, to code on > > an amiga you have to be tight and controlled with your code. If AMOS > > provided all these commands (which is not going to happen) then > > because they would be general rather than game specific (like coders > > actually have to code to be as optimal as possible) they would be FAR > > TOO SLOW and a complete nightmare for whichever fool tried to create > > the commands. > > speed again see above, and this stuff isn't that far out, but I can live > with out #13 & #14. Well how about the 3D map maker as well. You obviously know nothing about how 3D games work. You can only make a map maker to suit the game not a general 3D map maker. > Amos is a creators language if you want a coders language try Ace Basic. > where do you get SEUCK from, and does it do 3D? No I want AMOS which is why I use it. You don't seem to have grasped a few simple differences between Designer and coder. YOU are the one thats moaning about AMOS, YOU go use ACE basic. The SEUCK was a joke. It the Shoot Em Up Construction Kit. Basically it does what you want, it makes the game and you just design it.... and guess what... its crap!!! Why? Because YOU CANNOT create a general game maker like you want without either severe constrictions or having to code it yourself!!! doh.... -Exhasperhated[sp] Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 19:27:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 19:27:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01030 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12638 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:49:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12635 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:49:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10265 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:49:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32187 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 17:49:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.158) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 17:49:48 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:51:01 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Future AMOS.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Hello, > To the new developers of AMOS Pro..... > WE NEED MORE EXTENSION SLOTS... > With the (hopefull) great new update of AMOS, chances are that the amount of > users will grow, as a simple result we will get new extensions for various > tricky things (kinda like the 'locale' extension) so the number of slots > must be increased for these to find room.... I suggested a while back that the original extension system be scrapped, and a new one put in place. This would simply mean placing all the libraries into a drawer, and the program reads them all in regardless of how many are there, and it doesnt matter what order, as there are no physical "slots" to put them in. Old extensions should still be compatible, or at least be able to convert to new format with a converter which could come with the package. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! 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From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 18:28:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 18:28:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08834 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12814 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12811 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA16414 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1641 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 17:57:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.158) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 17:57:20 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:58:42 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00015D5C.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re[3]: stupid me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > > Where would I get information on the functions, syntax and parameters, > for a library that I might want to use? If you download the library from Aminet (I have an up-to-date of all libraries I know on Aminet with .FD files) or my page at www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/fd.html there is usually an FD file in there with it. If not, then its a little more difficult to use. Heres an example of what one looks like: ** $VER: mpega.library 1.0 (25.10.97) (C) 1997 Stephane TAVENARD ##base _MPEGABase ##bias 30 ##public MPEGA_open(filename,ctrl)(a0,a1) MPEGA_close(mpds)(a0) MPEGA_decode_frame(mpds,pcm)(a0,a1) MPEGA_seek(mpds,ms_time_position)(a0,d0) MPEGA_time(mpds,ms_time_position)(a0,a1) MPEGA_find_sync(buffer,buffer_size)(a0,d0) ##end Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 17:09:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 17:09:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29563 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12829 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:58:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12826 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07433 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2061 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 17:58:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.158) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 17:58:49 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:00:11 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00015D5C.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re[3]: stupid me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > > Where would I get information on the functions, syntax and parameters, > for a library that I might want to use? I should also add that full documents for the commands contained in the library usually accompany, else you just have to guess. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 19:49:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 19:49:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13294 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:49:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17132 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17129 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01825 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3760 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 18:53:41 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 18:53:41 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.19]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB46154 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:53:39 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 19:51:07 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: A small Hint.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, Here's a little trick I found the other day, hope somebody can use it.. To store an integer-array you would normaly open a sequentiel file and dump the data with a loop.. Well try this instead: MX=50 Dim A(MX) - Bsave FILE$,Varptr(A(0)) To Varptr(A(0))+(MX+1)*4 And to reload: Bload FILE$,Varptr(A(0)) You can simply replace Bsave with Ssave if you'd like to have more than one Array in a file. Or use Copy to put in a bank :) -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but the result's the same. -- Mike Dennison ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 11:12:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 11:12:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10620 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA25351 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25348 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21211 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:27:23 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp3.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.83]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA112 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:30:52 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp3.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 00015D5C; Thu, 5 Mar 98 05:25:33 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:15:59 -0700 Message-ID: <00015D5C.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re[2]: stupid me To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: >>They are basicaly just a list of the functions >>for the libraries, they define what parameters are needed, and in >>which registers the information is passed. Where would I get information on the functions, syntax and parameters, for a library that I might want to use? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 21:15:31 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 21:15:31 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18044 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA28598 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28595 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22004 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14406 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 20:52:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.140) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 20:52:03 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: "Mr. Giark To You" CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 15:53:22 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re[2]: New Compiler ideas wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > MAGIC FUCKING WORKBENCH?!? Are you trying to make it something that no one > with a brain would use? MWB is the second best way to get me to toss a prg in > the trash. First best is to use MUI. Unless you actually run MWB, pics from it > look aboslutely hideous. Personally, I prefer buttons with words. Pics that > seem easy to understand for one person are cryptic puzzles to another. Steady, Eddy. Magic Workbench itself is a pile of crap, I agree. Im just using the palette (I fully customize a 16 colour palette for all icons) just to give it a nicer look. I personally, think the 8-colour palette works very well. It wont just be pictures, but words/buttons/pictures etc. MUI? Hahahahahahaha..... Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 21:15:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 21:15:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25105 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA28884 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28881 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14932 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17717 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 21:02:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.140) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 21:02:32 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: "Mr. Giark To You" CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:03:51 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re[2]: Gui 1.70 FAQ + Tutorial ideas wanted! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: __When doing the Commands, the TCP F Open command has added another value: Tcp F Open(channel,File$,status) Status affects the state of the file: 0 - Read/Write to file 1 - Read Only _>_> also want to know what kind of questions you have for the FAQ section, > -Why does the gui I design not look right when I use it? > -GadToolsBox MUST be run on a non-interlace PAL hires screen using the Topaz/8 > font. Remember to leave a bit of extra space in your buttons, too, since some > of the proportional fonts can actually end up wider than the topaz font! I always use an NTSC Hires-laced screenmode when designing GUI's (as 99% of people using the program will never have their screenmode that low in size anyway) and have never experienced any problems. I sometimes use NTSC Lowres for small things/detail. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 22:12:45 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 22:12:45 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25711 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA09965 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09961 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA10443 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:57:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA21840; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:58:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:58:36 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Sender: Eric Hyland Reply-To: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. To: Alastair Murray cc: EricHyland , amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: <34FED755.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 5 Mar 1998, Alastair Murray wrote: > > >>> #1 bobs & sprites that can be rotated and scaled like Apple soft vector > > >>> graphics. > > This is all ready being worked on. > > By who? I don't remember, but it's someone on this list. > > > >>> #3 to be able to load a IFF as a background, or FOREGROUND. > > Amos loads IFF's as backgrounds. Amos 3D treats them as foreground NOW!!! > > No it doesn't. You have to load on to a seperate screen and THEN amos > copys one screen over the other (very roughly described I think). > You can do this with AMOS with the screen copy command but you'll > probably need 3 screens open to do it.... memory! Read pg 88 Background colours in the Amos 3D manual. Memory I have 2mb C 4mb F thats plenty. > > >>> #4 collision detection between 2D, and 3D obj's. > > This should have been done when Amos 3D came out. > > Yes but its not easy to do. I imagine it wasn't easy to make Amos, but it was done. > > >>> #7 translucent screens, so I can open 3 256 Hi Res screen, so I can draw > > >>> background on 1, midground on 2, and foreground on 3. (mem should be the > > >>> only limit) > > >>> #8 milti screen collision detection system for #7. > > > I guess you never heard of DUAL PLAYFIELD this isn't hardware, but then again > > neither is 64 color bobs. > > Well I guess you don't know what dual playfield actually does! (being > a designer and all) > As far as I know you can't dual playfield 3 256 colour screens on AGA. > On ECS you could do a couple of 8 colour screens but NOT 2 32 colour > ones never mind 3 screens! > On top of that... think of the memory usage!!! Find a sensible > solution to translucent screens. Use a coding trick! You can't just > expect hardware to do all these impossible things! I'm not the one who thought up translucent screens it was being thrown around awhile back it's just bit masking like in bobs, so what's the problem here. > > > Light Sourcing command???? Come on.... realise something, to code on > > > an amiga you have to be tight and controlled with your code. If AMOS > > > provided all these commands (which is not going to happen) then > > > because they would be general rather than game specific (like coders > > > actually have to code to be as optimal as possible) they would be FAR > > > TOO SLOW and a complete nightmare for whichever fool tried to create > > > the commands. > > > > speed again see above, and this stuff isn't that far out, but I can live > > with out #13 & #14. > > Well how about the 3D map maker as well. You obviously know nothing > about how 3D games work. You can only make a map maker to suit the > game not a general 3D map maker. A 3D map is the same as a 2D map it's just viewed from a deferent angale, and 3D is just a bunch of blocks with, or with out surfaces, and 2D bobs that stay facing you as you turn. A general 3D map system is possible. > > Amos is a creators language if you want a coders language try Ace Basic. > > where do you get SEUCK from, and does it do 3D? > > No I want AMOS which is why I use it. You don't seem to have grasped a > few simple differences between Designer and coder. YOU are the one > thats moaning about AMOS, YOU go use ACE basic. > > The SEUCK was a joke. It the Shoot Em Up Construction Kit. Basically > it does what you want, it makes the game and you just design it.... > and guess what... its crap!!! > Why? > Because YOU CANNOT create a general game maker like you want without > either severe constrictions or having to code it yourself!!! > > doh.... > > -Exhasperhated[sp] Murray Well that's only one school of thought, and nothing that I have asked for will affect you, so stop raining on my wish list. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 21:49:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 21:49:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07106 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA12326 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:49:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12323 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet14.ozemail.com.au (oznet14.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.120]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21556 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:48:58 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per1-107.space.net.au [203.38.10.147]) by oznet14.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA11474 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:48:54 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34FF3A00.6A04@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:49:20 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Extensions, etc. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Where`s this new 3d stuff? Andy H From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 22:43:30 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 22:43:30 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12399 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA12390 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12387 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet14.ozemail.com.au (oznet14.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.120]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00440 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:35 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per1-107.space.net.au [203.38.10.147]) by oznet14.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA13807 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:53:30 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34FF3B11.7942@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:53:53 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: stupid me2 References: <3.0.2.32.19980304214755.0069eaf8@radiks.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Hiya all, > Ok, so I'm a little slow. But can someone please explain to me what a .fd > file is and how it would be useful for AMOS? I've never used extensions and > am not really too sure as to why I would. So will someone please enlighten > me on these matters? Mushy? Anyone? > Thanx in advantz. Me too....FD...Doh??? Andy H From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 23:23:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 5 23:23:55 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05342 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA15124 for amos-out; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15121 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA02657 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.55) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:56:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: A small Hint.. Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:10:34 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Here's a little trick I found the other day, hope somebody can use it.. > To store an integer-array you would normaly open a sequentiel file > and dump the data with a loop.. Well try this instead: > MX=50 > Dim A(MX) > Bsave FILE$,Varptr(A(0)) To Varptr(A(0))+(MX+1)*4 > And to reload: > Bload FILE$,Varptr(A(0)) > You can simply replace Bsave with Ssave if you'd like to have more > than one Array in a file. Or use Copy to put in a bank :) Yes, this is very efficient and is the method I used in my SideShooter stage for loading the arrays with file-data. MUCH faster than the standard "loop and load" approach and just all-round more efficient, so I'd recommend using this as well... besides, once you're used to seeing everything as binary-data (which everything is in the end), you can move between languages like AMOS, C, Assembler, etc. much easier. :-) Another thing to consider is writing a small array-to-binary convertor as many times you don't need 32-bit (long word) values. For example, I ran the scrolling-map (used in the SideShooter) through a simple convertor I threw together which saved out an 8-bit binary data file, resulting in the map file size decreasing to just 25% of it's original size and loading MUCH faster as well. ;-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 17:26:32 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 17:26:32 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12142 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:26:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02523 for amos-out; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02520 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22135 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2025363; 6 Mar 98 15:53 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003l2; Fri, 6 Mar 98 04:05:06 GMT Date: Fri, 6 Mar 98 04:05:06 GMT Message-Id: <9803060405.AA003l1@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25f336f0.u10t12e.64cee-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <34FF3A00.6A04@mail.ozemail.com.au> (from geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au) (at Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:49:20 +0800) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Extensions, etc. Status: O X-Status: To the one known as geosync, > Where`s this new 3d stuff? On its way, OK ? The existing library(ies) on aminet is(are) a tad slow and wierd for my liking, I'd prefer to be able to use an amos screen, or at least a new amos screen. Hmm, maybe gui & 3d together might work. Still probably too slow. Grr. I'll be releasing when I get something that runs "respectably" fast on my 68060. Either that, or get one of the 3D libraries of the aminet. All the ones I can get to work are really quite slow. Expect something that does more than just objects, and also less than objects, and is different from most 3D's you've seen. Also expect it to use c2p or something similar that (hopefully) doesn't care how many colours you are using. Also expect a wierd hybrid of amos, C, lib calls, and hopefully some asm. I have enough source and examples (&skills!) to come up with something quite respectable, as soon as I get enough time. I know its been done so many times, but yes, I do have to reinvent the wheel, yet again. Grrr. At least most of the hard stuff has been done, and I'm not starting completely from scratch. What sort of object/coordinate system does everyone like, I wanna make it as usefull as possible. Anyone care to donate an object editor ? _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "Forty-Two !" |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 19:48:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 19:48:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17943 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15280 for amos-out; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15277 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:52:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04724 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:52:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7885 invoked from network); 6 Mar 1998 18:52:37 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 6 Mar 1998 18:52:37 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.44]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA51648; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:52:33 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se, amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 14:11:51 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0C16986DE489D111860D00A024A419070E22C1@G02_STHLEX.asdo.se> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: SV: A small Hint.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 06-Mar-98, Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se smashed the keyboard with: >> 's a little trick I found the other day, hope somebody can > use it.. > >> store an integer-array you would normaly open a sequentiel > file and dump >> data with a loop.. Well try this instead: >> =50 >> A(MX) >> - >> FILE$,Varptr(A(0)) To Varptr(A(0))+(MX+1)*4 >> >> to reload: >> FILE$,Varptr(A(0)) >> >> can simply replace Bsave with Ssave if you'd like to have > more than one >> in a file. Or use Copy to put in a bank :) > > Thanx for the tip. It's just what I need. > Loop-storing/reading are so slow when it comes to bigger files. > But how about big numbers and strings? I sence a bit of trouble > here... Strings don't work :( All regular integer-arrays work (A(n), B(n)) etc.. With a little change it is possible to use multi-dimension arrays. The (MX+1) should just be changed to the number of elements in the array, so if you have a Dim A(6,6) then the (MX+1) is changed to (7*7) element 0 is the first, resulting in 7 in each dimension.. Integer holds numbers from -$80000000 -> $7FFFFFFF wich equals to -2.147.483.648 -> 2.147.483.647, if you'd like to use floating numbers like A#(n) then the *4 is changed to the length of each element in the floating set (Still *4 if you're using Single/Fast float, but *8 if you are using Double Precision numbers..).. -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hardware: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 15:12:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 15:12:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06181 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27700 for amos-out; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27697 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:21:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19647 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11137 invoked from network); 6 Mar 1998 15:21:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.93) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 6 Mar 1998 15:21:48 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:23:09 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <34FF3EAB.2058@mail.ozemail.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Finally upgrading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Hey there, > Okay, where do I get GUI and OSDev kit, cause it looks like I need them. > (this is great!!!) I`ve just got the FD kit, and the MPEG extension, are > there docs on using this stuff? > Is there a cost(to the authors) involved in using these extensions? And > finally do any of these support AGA iff screens with Bobs???? > Andy H -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 20:48:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 20:48:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21811 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15285 for amos-out; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15282 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21224 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8080 invoked from network); 6 Mar 1998 18:52:49 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 6 Mar 1998 18:52:49 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.44]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB51648; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:52:44 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net, matti.niskanen@plai.fi, rayman@ticino.com, andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk, timh@samnet.net, gdwarf@applausenett.no, hergeir@algonet.se, peterj@centrum.dk, xs@xnet.it, optix@hotmail.com, Angus@angusm.demon.co.uk, worf@edc.ml.org, ISForce@aol.com, DA501300@ntu.ac.uk, dasoft@zetnet.co.uk Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 19:45:53 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Alien Breed 3D II - LevelED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, A new version of the Alien Breed 3DII LevelEditor (V2.14) is now availeble to download from my homepage.. This time however it's a bit different, I'm in the middle of moving the entire editor to the very powerfull OS-DevKit intuition-screens-system, so far my tests seems that these screens are about twice as fast as the old AMOS system (A 256-colour-screen matches the old 16-colours in updating). In V2.14 the main editor is converted, and preparations is made to move most of the rest, I'm releasing it to try and get a grasp of the errors in the sections I've done so far.. Please note that this version proberly holds some new bugs from the last version, for the same reason I won't send it to AmiNET, so please think of this as a test-version.. Oh, yes. I just discovered I forgot to remove a test-procedure in the startup, so the editor will start out with a note stating 'AQUA Rulez', please ignore this and click one of the buttons, as I won't make up a new version with this single fix... - News in V2.14 (Released: 06031998) !!! Test-Version, limited release !!! - Entire main level-designer runs on intuition-screen.. - User-difineable screen (only colours for now :( 16COLS [Default] -GFX's is shown as 8-grayscale.. 32COLS -GFX's is shown as 16-grayscale.. 256COLS -GFX's is shown in true colours.. - Temporaly disabled options: Level-Checker, Optimize Zones/Points, Statistics and the options for selecting grid and objects/controlpoints shown on screen.. - Define heights rewritten.. - Program startup optimized.. - Both Metric and 'Real' heights is shown when defining heights.. - Fixed a stupid bug in the Metric-heights calculation.. - The packing of levels is now done directly by the saver, so the 'pack level' option has been removed from the menu :) - FINALY added a (working ??) internal sample-replayer.. - Killed the prefs system, it will be taken over by the tool-types.. - New Tool-Types: '16COLS', '32COLS', '256COLS', 'FastGFX', 'CacheGFX'. ! NEW locale strings: 92,93,206,1197 -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm the computer your mother warned you about. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 19:45:53 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 19:45:53 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18708 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18624 for amos-out; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18619 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:39:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19681 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126070.agonet.it [195.32.126.70]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15142 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:35:06 +0100 From: Pietro Ghizzoni Reply-To: Pietro Ghizzoni To: Amos-List Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:37:54 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Dairymen Soft Subject: Re: FD-Extension.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 05-Mar-98, Jens Vang Petersen wrote: FD-Extension.. >Hello, Hi! >Ok, I've looked a bit at the FD-extension and it looks great to me, but as >it's sort of a compiler that generates the extension-code while looking >through the FD-files, I wonder if it were posible to make a version with >a user-selected extension-number, as slot 25 allready has a long list of >extensions while there are several that only hosts one (7 and 9 to be >specific).. Becouse of the various FD files selected to be used by the >various authors the extensions would not be compatible anyway, so it >might as well be located where it suits the single developer best... Hehe :) Right! The builder is already able to do this... don't worry this is only a preview of my work... coded in 3 days ;) Between some days a new and more complete version will be available. In the meanwhile have fun with the FD Builder ;) P.S Tomorrow (saturday 7) i'll be at the MIPS-A meeting in Italy... someone? :))) There is a cool discussion about the advanced use of the graphic.library and AGA Hoo-Hoo-Hooo :) -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | Team AMIGA \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Professional Team Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ!! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 22:20:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 22:20:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21597 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:20:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA17477 for amos-out; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17474 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16817 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22856 invoked from network); 7 Mar 1998 01:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.149) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 7 Mar 1998 01:29:01 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:30:18 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Amarquee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Ive uploaded Amarquee onto the FD Extension page of libraries. For all those who dont know what Amarquee is, it allows you to create easy Internet communication games. with minimum of fuss! The FD page is now accessible from my main homepage, so follow the URL in my sig to get there! Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 23:19:46 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 6 23:19:46 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA22845 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:19:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA17832 for amos-out; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17829 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:38:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco2-106.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.106]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00156 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:38:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp30-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.79]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA01810 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:32:13 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:37:42 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Amiga 98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Who is going to Amiga `98 in St. Louis, MO? 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(519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 7 05:34:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 7 05:34:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20367 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 05:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA23761 for amos-out; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 03:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23758 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 03:40:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA06978 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 03:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2880 invoked from network); 7 Mar 1998 08:40:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp17-15.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.79) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 7 Mar 1998 08:40:18 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00lt3; Sat, 7 Mar 98 03:31:40 GMT Message-Id: <9803070331.AA00lt2@mushypd.desupernet.net> Reply-To: Mushroom PD Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 03:31:39 X-Mailer: MPDMailpostV2b by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpostV2b multi-personell mailer program X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer X-Format: 73/266=21023581+4492P From: Mushroom PD (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: MPD Announcement: MPDMailpost V2b Now Available! Status: O X-Status: MPDMailpostV2 is a handy little utility which allows you to create the same email, for an infinite number of different people. The program supports mailers such as YAM, YAM2, UUSPOOL, and many different programs including your own. You can easily add attachments to mails with hardly any effort. The second release of V2 is now available, either from me (by emailing me at mushypd@redrose.net) or Aminet in Comm/Mail. If you have any questions, feel free to email me. The program is freeware, which means there are no restrictions in it. Main Improvements from initial V2 release -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * Added YAM2 support, and user's own directory support * Have up to 200 attachments per mail * Ability to use RAM: instead of diskspace for temp files * Improved speed slightly Thanks for reading Andy "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 7 01:50:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 7 01:50:51 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01782 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 01:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA22034 for amos-out; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22031 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA27339 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9011 invoked from network); 7 Mar 1998 05:14:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.171) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 7 Mar 1998 05:14:15 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 00:12:51 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Using AMOSPro to send Emails MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.3550672.1" Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. --BOUNDARY.3550672.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since working with the GUI Extension, and also on my Mailinglist software= , ive been asked by several AMOS users how it is possible for the betateste= rs to send their information directly to me via the net (without saving it t= o YAM/UUSPOOL first). Included in this mail, is the source code for placing= such a form in your own creations. Attached to this mail is a file named Mailform.WIN which you should simply load as a window in your GadToolsBox= file, and save accordingly. You will also need to change the Gui Open/Clo= se commands to react correctly with it. This program should work with Gui V1= =2E62 although I haven't tried. Feel free to use this program in your own productions, just give me and t= he PD library a mention in the documentation/in the program. If you have any= comments/questions about this routine, feel free to email me or the list.= ' Simple Mailform program. Written using the GUI Extension (V1.70) = ' Written by Andy "Mushroom" Kellett C Mushroom PD 1998. = ' ' This program is freely usable by anybody. ' = ' Note, that you WILL have to change the GUI Open/Close commands to respo= nd ' to that of the correct one in your program. You will also need to = ' customize the program + SMTP servers to your own needs. ' Dim LV$(200) Global LV$() Procedure EMAILREQUEST ' This part of the program asks for the user's information so that the= y can ' be contacted in the future about any new releases/updates or other i= nfo ' which can be sent to them. It also gives me an idea of just who is using = ' the program, so you can determine which part of the world wishes to = use it = ' more. = Proc COUNTRYS : Rem Read in the list of countrys to the large array = Gui Open 2,10,20 : Rem Open up the GUI Screen = Gui Set 2,4,1,Array(LV$(0)) : Gui Set 2,4,0,0 : Rem Setup array and Fi= rst selection = LP1: A=3DGui Wait = If A=3D0 : Rem SEND INFO button hit = Goto _PROCESS End If = = Goto LP1 = _PROCESS: ' Check the status of the gadgets to make sure no abnormalities will b= e sent = ' to my email box. = = NAME$=3DGui Read$(2,1) : EM$=3DGui Read$(2,2) : WWW$=3DGui Read$(2,3) = : CC$=3DGui Read$(2,4) = ' First check for blank headers If NAME$=3D"" or EM$=3D"" : Rem Blank Entry's A=3DGui Req("Mail Error...","Blank Fields Remain in Entry","OK") : = Goto LP1 End If = = ' Now check that email contains the correct information I=3DInstr(EM$,"@") If I=3D0 A=3DGui Req("Mail Error...","Email address is incorrect. Please check.","OK") : Goto LP1 End If = = ' I guess its safe to say that the email is pretty good to go once it gets here = ' As well as the information given in the form, the program will send = me = ' the following pieces of information regarding the user: ' ' There hostname ($HOSTNAME) = ' There real name ($REALNAME) ' ' This just gives me a brief idea of what will be going on with the program = LP2: SERV$=3D"mail.redrose.net" : Rem Change to your Mailserver HOST$=3D"redrose.net" : Rem Change to your Host _TO$=3D"mushypd@redrose.net" : Rem Change to your Email address = FROM$=3DEM$ EC$=3DChr$(13)+Chr$(10) = If Not Exist("Ram:Env/HOSTNAME") LP3: TEX$=3D"It would appear that your Amiga is not"+Chr$(10) TEX$=3DTEX$+"connected to the internet. Please connect"+Chr$(10) TEX$=3DTEX$+"your machine to the internet, and hit the"+Chr$(10) TEX$=3DTEX$+"RETRY button to continue. If it is connected"+Chr$(10)= TEX$=3DTEX$+"then please ensure the connection is OK." = A=3DGui Req("Connection Error...",TEX$,"Retry") : Goto LP2 End If = = Trap A=3DTcp Open(1,SERV$+"/25") : E=3DErrtrap : Tcp Limit 500 = ' IMPORTANT NOTE = ' ' Some SMTP mailservers do not use Port 21 (SMTP) but port 25. If your= = ' program doesnt work on the one port, then try the other (21). One wa= y ' to test, is to connect to it with a Telnet program, as you should ge= t ' a "ESMTP Server Ready" message if you connect correctly. = = If A=3DFalse or E>0 A=3DGui Req("Error.","Couldnt resolve SMTP Host","OK") : Goto LP3 End If = = Open Out 2,"Sys:MailResults" = A=3DTcp Put$(1,"HELO "+HOST$+EC$) A=3DTcp Put$(1,"MAIL FROM: <"+FROM$+">"+EC$) A=3DTcp Put$(1,"RCPT TO: <"+_TO$+">"+EC$) A=3DTcp Put$(1,"DATA"+EC$) A=3DTcp Put$(1,"To: <"+_TO$+">"+EC$) : = A=3DTcp Put$(1,"From: My Program <"+FROM$+">"+EC$) A=3DTcp Put$(1,"Subject: Internal Program Email"+EC$) A=3DTcp Put$(1,"X-Comment: AMOSPro Test"+EC$) A=3DTcp Put$(1,"X-Mailer: AMOSPro"+EC$+EC$) = ' Now, another list of stuff to send. Ive put into data statements to ' limit the amount of repetitive code used. = TEX$=3D"hostname" : V=3D1 : Gosub _GETFILE Inc V : TEX$=3D"realname" : Gosub _GETFILE = D1: Data "Name: "+NAME$,"Email Address: "+EM$,"WWW: "+WWW$,"Country: "+CC$= ," " Data "This Mailform was sent from My Program. The version of the" Data "program reported itself as being:"," ",VER$," " Data "This particular version of the program is unregistered, and was released" Data "into the public on March 5, 1998."," " Data "Hostname: "+HN$,"Real Name: "+RN$ Data "*" = Restore D1 Repeat = Read G$ : Rem Read in mail input = If G$<>"*" A=3DTcp Put$(1,G$+EC$) : Print #2,G$+Chr$(10); End If = Until G$=3D"*" = A=3DTcp Put$(1,"."+EC$) A=3DTcp Put$(1,"QUIT"+EC$) = Gui Pause 50 Tcp Close 1 : Close 2 = TEX$=3D"Your information has been emailed directly"+Chr$(10) TEX$=3DTEX$+"to the author, and you will be placed on the"+Chr$(10) TEX$=3DTEX$+"list of betatesters, and will also receive info"+Chr$(10)= TEX$=3DTEX$+"on new updates etc. A copy of the information"+Chr$(10) TEX$=3DTEX$+"sent can be found in SYS:MailResults"+Chr$(10)+Chr$(10) TEX$=3DTEX$+"Thank-you" = A=3DGui Req("Mail Notification",TEX$,"No Problem!") A=3DGui Close(2) : Gui On 1 Pop Proc = End = = _GETFILE: P$=3D"" If Exist("RAM:ENV/"+TEX$) : Rem Enviroment File Open In 1,"Ram:Env/"+TEX$ : P$=3DInput$(1,Lof(1)) : Close 1 End If = = If V=3D1 : HN$=3DP$ : End If = If V=3D2 : RN$=3DP$ : End If = Return = = _ERROR: TEX$=3D"An error has occured. Please check the"+Chr$(10)+"connection y= ou have to the internet" TEX$=3DTEX$+Chr$(10)+"and hit the RETRY button. If you want to"+Chr$(10)+"abort this operation for the moment" TEX$=3DTEX$+Chr$(10)+"then hit the CANCEL button." = A=3DGui Req("Processing Error...",TEX$,"Retry|Cancel") = ' 1 =3D Retry ' 0 =3D Cancel = = If A=3D1 : Goto LP2 : End If = If A=3D0 : Trap Kill "MLM:Data/MailResults" : A=3DGui Close(2) : Gui O= n 1 : Pop Proc : End If = End Proc Procedure COUNTRYS CT: Data "Afghanistan","Albania","Algeria","Andorra","Angola","Antigua and= Barbuda","Argentina","Armenia","Australia","Austria","Azerbaijan" Data "Bahamas, The","Bahrain","Bangladesh","Barbados","Belarus","Belgium","Belize","Beni= n","Bhutan","Bolivia","Bosnia and Herzegovina" Data "Botswana","Brazil","Brunei","Bulgaria","Burkina Faso","Burma","Burundi","Cambodia","Cameroon","Canada","Cape Verde" Data "Central African Republic","Chad","Chile","China","Colombia","Comoros","Congo (Brazzaville)","Congo (Kinshasa)","Costa Rica","Cote d'Ivoire","Croatia" Data "Cuba","Cyprus","Czech Republic","Denmark","Djibouti ","Dominica","Dominican Republic","Ecuador","Egypt","El Salvador","Equatorial Guinea" Data "Eritrea","Estonia","Ethiopia","Fiji","Finland","France","Gabon","Gambia,= The","Georgia","Germany","Ghana" Data "Greece","Grenada","Guatemala","Guinea","Guinea-Bissau","Guyana","Haiti",= "Honduras","Hungary","Iceland","India" Data "Indonesia","Iran","Iraq","Ireland","Israel","Italy","Jamaica","Japan","J= ordan","Kazakhstan","Kenya" Data "Kiribati","Korea, North","Korea, South","Kuwait","Kyrgyzstan","Laos","Latvia","Lebanon","Lesotho","Liberia= ","Libya" Data "Liechtenstein","Lithuania","Luxembourg","Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of","Madagascar","Malawi","Malaysia","Maldives","Mali","Malta","Marshall Islands" Data "Mauritania","Mauritius","Mexico","Micronesia, Federated States of","Moldova","Monaco","Mongolia","Morocco","Mozambique","Namibia","Nauru= " Data "Nepal","Netherlands","New Zealand","Nicaragua","Niger","Nigeria","Norway","Oman","Pakistan","Palau"= ,"Panama" Data "Papua New Guinea","Paraguay","Peru","Philippines","Poland","Portugal","Qatar","Roma= nia","Russia","Rwanda","Saint Kitts and Nevis" Data "Saint Lucia","Saint Vincent and the Grenadines","Samoa","San Marino","Sao Tome and Principe","Saudi Arabia","Senegal","Serbia and Montenegro","Seychelles","Sierra Leone","Singapore" Data "Slovakia","Slovenia","Solomon Islands","Somalia","South Africa","Spain","Sri Lanka","Sudan","Suriname","Swaziland","Sweden" Data "Switzerland","Syria","Taiwan","Tajikistan","Tanzania","Thailand","Togo",= "Tonga","Trinidad and Tobago","Tunisia","Turkey" Data "Turkmenistan","Tuvalu","Uganda","Ukraine","United Arab Emirates","United Kingdom","United States","Uruguay","Uzbekistan","Vatica= n City","Vanuatu" Data "Venezuela","Vietnam","Yemen","Zambia","Zimbabwe","" = Restore CT L=3D0 Repeat = Read LV$(L) : Inc L Until LV$(L-1)=3D"" End Proc -- = Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIG= A* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrore= d * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library= * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. --BOUNDARY.3550672.1 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Mailform.WIN" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Mailform.WIN" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Rk9STQAABoJHWFdEV0REQQAAAVxJbmZvAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA UmVnaXN0ZXIgWW91ciBWZXJzaW9uIEZSRUUhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABNYWlsaW5nbGlzdCBNYWludGFpbmVyIKkgQ29w eXJpZ2h0IDE5OTggTXVzaHJvb20gUEQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO AAAAQAJ4AAAABgAAAAABiwC6AAEAAAAAAAAABAALAAAAAAAAAAAAAIAAAGQAAAB7gAAAZQAA AGSAAABmAAABk4AAAGcAAADHgAAAagJMB36AAABrAAAQBoAAAG4AVQ/UgAAAcAA2jkCAAABy AAAAQ4AAAHMAAAAVgAAAdAAAAoCAAAB1AAABkIAAAJAAAAABgAAAkwAAAAFGT1JNAAAAFkdY QlhCQk9YAAAACgAHAA0BgwCoAABGT1JNAAAAcEdYVFhJVFhUAAAAZAIAAAAAawA9AFQ9pgBV lHQAAAAAU2VsZWN0IFlvdXIgSG9tZSBDb3VudHJ5AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABGT1JNAAAEfEdYR0FHQURBAAAAuABz ALcArgALAFWVHABUPaYAAAAAABAAIzVkAAAAAFNlbmQgSW5mbwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA R2FkZ2V0MDIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHQURBAAAA6gA+ABEBPgAMAFWWdABUPaYAAQAAAAEAIzVk AAAAAE5hbWUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR2FkZ2V0MTIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADAAIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIAIAC4AAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEdBREEAAADq AEUAHwE3AAwAVZf8AFQ9pgACAAAAAQAjNWQAAAAARW1haWwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AABHYWRnZXQyMgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAgAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAgAgALgAAAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR0FEQQAAAOoANwAtAUQADABVmYQAVD2mAAMAAAABACM1ZAAA AABXV1cAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEdhZGdldDMyAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACACAAuAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHQURBAAAA2gAT AEgBawBoAFWbdABUPaYABAAAAAAAIzVkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA R2FkZ2V0NDIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAIAIAAYAVZvWgAOAAgAAAASACAA1AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA --BOUNDARY.3550672.1-- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 7 11:15:42 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 7 11:15:42 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18759 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 11:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA24853 for amos-out; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24850 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26867 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26316 invoked from network); 7 Mar 1998 13:54:19 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 7 Mar 1998 13:54:19 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.28]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAC59322; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:54:17 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Keith Hill , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 14:09:49 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <25f336f0.u10t12e.64cee-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: Extensions, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 06-Mar-98, Keith Hill smashed the keyboard with: > What sort of object/coordinate system does everyone like, I wanna > make it as usefull as possible. Is there an alternative to X,Y,Z ??? > > Anyone care to donate an object editor ? Ehhh, depends on how complex the thing needs to be, but if you have some info on the expected format, then drop a line.. (Do you know the OM from AMOS-3D, something like that, but ofcourse much more usefull ??) -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On a clear disk you can seek forever. -- Denning ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 7 19:25:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 7 19:25:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17969 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 19:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02740 for amos-out; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:36:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02737 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17490 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:36:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5048 invoked from network); 7 Mar 1998 22:36:21 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 7 Mar 1998 22:36:21 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.111]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA42896 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:36:15 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 23:35:06 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hello, I know I've written this before but I didn't get anything from that.. Plain and simple, does anyone have a procedure/routine to scale/resample a sample, like changing it from say, 10000 to 8000 rate ??? -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And on the seventh day, He exited from append mode. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 18:56:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 18:56:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06846 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:56:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11526 for amos-out; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11523 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10207 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27794 invoked from network); 8 Mar 1998 21:36:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp19-38.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.230) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 8 Mar 1998 21:36:57 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00nuz; Sun, 8 Mar 98 16:24:44 GMT Message-Id: <9803081624.AA00nuy@mushypd.desupernet.net> Reply-To: Mushroom PD Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:24:43 X-Mailer: MPDMailpostV2b by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpostV2b multi-personell mailer program X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer X-Format: 73/266=21894730+5024P From: Mushroom PD (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: MPDMailpostV2 Errors - Now Fixed Status: O X-Status: Oops! It would seem there were a couple of small errors in the MPDMailpostV2b archive which was uploaded to aminet yesterday. These errors have now been fixed (mainly with the mailform not exiting, and the PATH function) and a new archive can be obtained from me at mushypd@redrose.net or you could wait for the fixed version to appear on aminet later today (the readme file says FIXED). Thank-you Andy "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 14:03:26 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 14:03:26 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03036 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09828 for amos-out; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09825 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:14:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mb05.swip.net (mb05.swip.net [193.12.122.209]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09718 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from main (dialup202-4-10.swipnet.se [130.244.202.202]) by mb05.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA09180 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:14:12 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3502D2F2.189B@swipnet.se> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 18:18:42 +0100 From: mg40067 Reply-To: mtl.wberg@swipnet.se X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: help me please... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Here my problem. short example --text.txt look like this-- 5 8 --end text r$="text.txt" open in 1,r$ : a=lof(1) : close 1 reserve as work 16,a bload r$,16 abc=start(16) c1=peek(abc) : inc abc : c2=peek(abc) print c1 : rem gives the ascii value print chr$ : show numer 5 Ok how will do to make amos to understand that i want to threat this as a number instead of an ascii value? Is there anyway to convert that 5 (53) so i can use it like this tal=c1+c2 print tal : want it to be 13 please help me... From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 14:39:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 14:39:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20509 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:39:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10188 for amos-out; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10185 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19823 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab1002807; 8 Mar 98 17:55 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003lg; Sun, 8 Mar 98 17:55:10 GMT Date: Sun, 8 Mar 98 17:55:10 GMT Message-Id: <9803081755.AA003lb@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25f69c7c.u10t12e.aeedc-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Jens Vang Petersen ) (at Sat, 07 Mar 1998 23:35:06 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: top_cat@post8.tele.dk Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: your mail Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA10186 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Jens, > Hello, > I know I've written this before but I didn't get anything from that.. Oh dear. > Plain and simple, does anyone have a procedure/routine to scale/resample > a sample, like changing it from say, 10000 to 8000 rate ??? Not off hand, but it should be as simple as streching the horizontal rate, and leaving the data bytes alone. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "You're disgusting." - Odo |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | "It's a living." - Quark | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 19:33:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 19:33:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21798 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10666 for amos-out; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10663 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:20:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24276 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13660 invoked from network); 8 Mar 1998 20:20:13 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 8 Mar 1998 20:20:13 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.37]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA42330; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:20:10 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: mg40067 , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 21:18:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3502D2F2.189B@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: help me please... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 08-Mar-98, mg40067 smashed the keyboard with: > Here my problem. short example > > --text.txt look like this-- > 5 > 8 > --end text > > r$="text.txt" > open in 1,r$ : a=lof(1) : close 1 > reserve as work 16,a > bload r$,16 > abc=start(16) > c1=peek(abc) : inc abc : c2=peek(abc) > print c1 : rem gives the ascii value > print chr$ : show numer 5 > > Ok how will do to make amos to understand that i want to threat this > as a number instead of an ascii value? > > Is there anyway to convert that 5 (53) so > i can use it like this > > tal=c1+c2 > print tal : want it to be 13 > > please help me... Just one thing, You have shown in your text that you have a line-feed between the numbers, if you have that you should use this way to get the data: S=Start(BNK) C1$=Peek$(S,100,Chr$(10)) : Add S,Len(C1$)+1 C2$=Peek$(S,100,Chr$(10)) C1=Val(C1$) : C2=Val(C2$).. If you have number as you write above then this should work: C_VALUE=Val(Chr$(C_ASCII)) -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 19:11:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 19:11:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10373 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10676 for amos-out; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:23:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10671 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:23:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA27092 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20459 invoked from network); 8 Mar 1998 20:23:02 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 8 Mar 1998 20:23:02 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.37]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA53588; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:23:01 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Keith Hill , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 21:21:49 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <25f69c7c.u10t12e.aeedc-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: your mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 08-Mar-98, Keith Hill smashed the keyboard with: >> Plain and simple, does anyone have a procedure/routine to scale/resample >> a sample, like changing it from say, 10000 to 8000 rate ??? > > Not off hand, but it should be as simple as streching the horizontal rate, > and leaving the data bytes alone. > Ehh, Right... Just one thing: I don't know anything about the way samples work, I just know I can load a raw sample with Bload into chip-mem and play it with the Pt Raw command in AMCAF.... -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 19:33:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 19:33:18 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05062 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA13002 for amos-out; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12999 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05759 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:08:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab1023708; 8 Mar 98 21:50 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Eric Hyland , Alastair Murray CC: EricHyland , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 21:32:31 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: Hurray Alastair Murray (was: My Amos wish list.) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On Thursday 05-Mar-98 at 22:58:36, a nutter named Eric Hyland had wet pants when they typed about `Re: My Amos wish list.'. >Well that's only one school of thought, and nothing that I have asked for >will affect you, so stop raining on my wish list. I agree with Alastair Murray on everything he has said so far! And I still stick with my own comments regarding you when i said that this list isn't really for you! It's for Amos Coders, not self hyped up designers with ideas that are not possible with Amos! You may think of great ideas Eric, but only us coders can REALLY tell you if they are feasible in Amos. Most of yours are not! Maybe you should go and try the guys on the Blitz Basic ML.... Please do tell us though, what do you actually code? Anything? Someone mentioned you should try SEUCK, I agree :) Either that or Brian Bell's REALITY may be what you are looking for. You design the game and it makes it for you. Piss easy to use and no coding required. Right up your dead end street.... Tarra -- ***************************************************************** *_______/\_____/\_______/\_____/\ * *\ /\ ___/\ /\ ___/ Andy Gibson <---------------- * * \_/\ / /\/| _ \_/\ / \/ \ ----------> aka SKiDZ/Area 51 * * / _/ / / |_| // _/ / __\ \ * * \// / \___ / \// / /__ / andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk * * /_/ \_/ /_/ \_/ <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> * * pRODUCTiONS 9T8 * ***************************************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 00:18:23 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 00:18:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23713 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:18:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA14255 for amos-out; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:54:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA14252 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:54:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from bianca.scs.com.br (bianca.scs.com.br [200.231.154.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15045 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:54:09 -0500 (EST) From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br Received: from tecnopro.com.br.tecnopro.com.br (ras2 [200.231.154.31]) by bianca.scs.com.br (8.8.5/SCO5) with SMTP id WAA01885 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:55:56 -0300 (EST) From(scs.com.br): erico@www.tecnopro.com.br Message-Id: <199803090155.WAA01885@bianca.scs.com.br> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:55:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE:.<<>> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Status: RO X-Status: as said... > Yeah! After 5 years of desolation, now there is a new HOPE! Finally i've > concluded a important bid.... after a long (...about 1 year) dialog with > Francois Lionet i've obtained the AMOS source code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best news! > > The development can restart.... but is a very difficult task! There are > > about 3MB(!) of ASM sources *without* docs, and few comments (..in > > french) in the code :(((( and so i must spend *a lot* of time for understand > > how it works before upgrade it. Whishlists... >> I'm making a little wishlist of features, but the only thing I WILL >> ask is that the system requirements be kept as low as possible. >> Like, when (not IF I hope :), AGA support is put into amos, it will >> still work on non-aga machines! Just a personal opinion on this , don't take it personally (James) If possible , extend the language to be a full new generation machine compatible-only and for it. Would piss us off and force us to choose a new amiga But if that is what we wanna see , it would help on the amiga comeback and help software development on the new plataform. See ya! ----------------------------------------------------------- Ahoy! You got this from Erico Monteiro Email: erico@tecnopro.com.br Work Url: www.tecnopro.com.br Barca Furada Url: www.angelfire.com/ak/gamecreation "If you can't find me or encounter any problem... ...call the president" ----------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 23:21:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 8 23:21:00 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01250 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA14169 for amos-out; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:02:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA14166 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA10544 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:02:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2029343; 9 Mar 98 2:55 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003lp; Mon, 9 Mar 98 02:55:06 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 02:55:06 GMT Message-Id: <9803090255.AA003lk@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25f71b08.u10t12e.de36c-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Jens Vang Petersen ) (at Sun, 08 Mar 1998 21:21:49 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: top_cat@post8.tele.dk Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Sample shrinking and all that. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id WAA14167 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Jens, > >> Plain and simple, does anyone have a procedure/routine to scale/resample > >> a sample, like changing it from say, 10000 to 8000 rate ??? > > Not off hand, but it should be as simple as streching the horizontal rate, > > and leaving the data bytes alone. > > Ehh, Right... Just one thing: > I don't know anything about the way samples work, I just know I can load a > raw sample with Bload into chip-mem and play it with the Pt Raw command > in AMCAF.... Ok, here ya go. The ratio between original rate and processed rate is identical to the ratio between length and original length. N-joi. cyagain. _ _ _ _ _ _ | Max Headroom - Amiga Babylon-5 - Amiga |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | SeaQuest - Amiga RoboCop - Amiga |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | ST:Voyager - Amiga Red Dwarf - Amiga | What computer am I using ? Amiga. --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* UUxT 3.0b UNREGISTERED Public Release begin 644 sam-stretch.amos M04U/4R!"87-I8R!V,3,T(```!/P$`092`````!`!!E(`&"`@(%)A=R!S86UPY M;&4@`@%P,?^B`4``E M=``&```$`&)A;FL`?```$P$`!@`D`@!P,O^B`4``=``&```$`&)A;FO_P``^Q M`````0!\```1`0`&`"H"`6ER_Z(`!@`2`@!S;/_L``8`&`0`8`=``&`!X"`7`Q`'P```<$!$0`!@`D`@!P,@``$`0`!@`>`@%P+ M,?^B``8`'@(!<#'_P``&`"H"`6ER```#`0)&```"````$0$`!@`V!`%S M%`$$=@`F`!).97<@From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 06:27:41 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03198 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15011 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:07:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15008 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:07:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06697 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:07:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:00:34 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 9 Mar 98 09:07:38 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 9 Mar 98 09:07:05 GMT+0 From: Lee Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:05:20 GMT+0 Subject: Resampling Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <10BF42319@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: > > Plain and simple, does anyone have a procedure/routine to scale/resample > > a sample, like changing it from say, 10000 to 8000 rate ??? Oh dear, this sounds familiar, I've been doing digital signal processing for a year, I should know this. That could be another fail!!! I'll have a look through my notes later. ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Its just a big egg pie! ________________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 06:21:48 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 06:21:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18694 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15079 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15076 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28666 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:45:54 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 9 Mar 98 09:52:58 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 9 Mar 98 09:52:21 GMT+0 From: Lee Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:48:52 GMT+0 Subject: Re: help me please... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <1CD153B88@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: > Ok how will do to make amos to understand that i want to threat this > as a number instead of an ascii value? Isnt this ASC ? or is this some other language thats bouncing round my head! a=asc("5") sets a to 5 ???? ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Its just a big egg pie! ________________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 07:30:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 07:30:59 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21456 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15059 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15056 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA21095 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21712 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1998 09:33:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp17-25.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.89) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 9 Mar 1998 09:33:08 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00oqs; Mon, 9 Mar 98 04:34:22 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 04:34:22 GMT Message-Id: <9803090434.AA00oqr@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: Pete Wason (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: [AMOSList] Re: AMOS Now being updated! What should be added? Status: O X-Status: Yup, Delphi (and Paradox7, also from Borland), and some of the newer Win stuff is very cool. Still say that someone is missing the boat not finding/purchasing the source to CanDo and updating it into a tool comparable to ... Delphi, for example... where VCLs and DLLs can be written in C/C++ and plugged into the IDE as additional components. This would be truely cooool. -- ******************************************************************************* * Peter S. 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From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 07:36:47 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 07:36:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02645 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15064 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:33:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15061 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:33:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA05945 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21753 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1998 09:33:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp17-25.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.89) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 9 Mar 1998 09:33:24 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00or2; Mon, 9 Mar 98 04:34:39 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 04:34:39 GMT Message-Id: <9803090434.AA00or1@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: Adrian Pickering (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: [AMOSList] Re: AMOS Now being updated! What should be added? Status: O X-Status: Pete Wason wrote: > > > Yup, Delphi (and Paradox7, also from Borland), and some of the newer Win > stuff is very cool. Still say that someone is missing the boat not > finding/purchasing the source to CanDo and updating it into a tool > comparable to Very good point > ... Delphi, for example... Hmm, a /_*LOT*_/ (enough emphasis? ;) of work would need to be done to make it comparable to Delphi 3, but it could compare very favourabley with VB3, though > where VCLs and DLLs can be > written in C/C++ and plugged into the IDE as additional components. > This would be truely cooool. Yep. Put my name down, I'll take the Client/Server version ;) Adrian -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 09:55:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 09:55:51 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08475 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:55:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15069 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15066 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA06396 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:35:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21903 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1998 09:35:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp17-25.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.89) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 9 Mar 1998 09:35:01 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00orc; Mon, 9 Mar 98 04:36:13 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 04:36:13 GMT Message-Id: <9803090436.AA00orb@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: Alex Borodin (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: [AMOSList] Re: AMOS Now being updated! What should be added? Status: O X-Status: Andy Kellett wrote: > > The source for AMOS + AMOSPro (including the compiler) have now been released to > a small team of developers, who wish to put this once ever-popular language back > on top of them all, by giving it a major overhaul. > > The major changes which will be added, will be AGA and graphics card support for > all AMOS modes, including its editor, yet still be able to provide the > programmer with complete control over its graphics system. TCPI/IP network support! So that it can be used to write network games. An implementation of sockets communication would be ideal.. File sharing and locking! So that the TCP/IP thingo can also transmit and update config files on the fly without crashing the AMOS app. A better debugger which supports multiple breakpoints, multiple variable watchpoints, etc. A date/time set and read functions would be great too.. it's such a pain to have to use the Operating system with its bizarre BCPL calling conventions to get and set the real time clock. What else? Dunno.. that should be heaps for a start! -- o Alex Borodin B.Eng(Hons) o Queensland Rail o Software and Systems Engineer o Ph: +61-7-3235-2482 o Signal and Operational Systems o Fax:+61-7-3235-2747 "A passion which we allow to grow active within us through our own choice afterwards forces itself upon us against our will" St Mark the Ascetic - 5th or 6th Century -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 09:04:26 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 09:04:26 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03823 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15220 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15217 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.technocom.net (relay.technocom.net [194.6.96.11]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05422 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.bacg.com ([195.172.67.137]) by relay.technocom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA21486 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:05:20 GMT Message-Id: > From: "Wayne O'Donnell" Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:01:31 +0000 To: amos-list@access.digex.net, l.a.atkins@uclan.ac.uk Subject: Re: help me please... MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id HAA15218 Status: O X-Status: >> Ok how will do to make amos to understand that i want to threat this >> as a number instead of an ascii value? >Isnt this ASC ? or is this some other language thats bouncing round >my head! >a=asc("5") sets a to 5 ???? This is AMOS but does the opposite of what you are thinking. It would set 'a' to the ASCII value of the string "5". What you want to use is VAL I think (although I have forgotten what you were originally trying to do now!). But, remembering bits, you were PEEKing a value from memory and trying to do some maths on the result... so a bit of your code is a=PEEK(start(16)) which returns the ASCII value of "5", you need to convert the ASCII value to a string using CHR$, then convert the string into a numeric... a=(VAL(CHR$(PEEK(Start(16))) Wayne. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 19:32:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 19:32:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21524 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA09779 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09775 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23506 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:02:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13556 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1998 19:01:51 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 9 Mar 1998 19:01:51 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.3]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA26946; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:01:49 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Lee , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 13:59:22 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1CD153B88@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: help me please... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 09-Mar-98, Lee smashed the keyboard with: > a=asc("5") sets a to 5 ???? No it don't, a will be set to the ASCII code of the character '5', this is $35(=53) as far as I remeber off hand.. Use a=Val("5") or the more tricky: a=Asc("5")-$30 -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. 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MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102093/310102123/310460310/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id KAA22058 Status: O X-Status: In response to... >> Ok how will do to make amos to understand that i want to threat this >> as a number instead of an ascii value? >Isnt this ASC ? or is this some other language thats bouncing round >my head! >a=asc("5") sets a to 5 ???? I wrote... >This is AMOS but does the opposite of what you are thinking. >It would set 'a' to the ASCII value of the string "5". >What you want to use is VAL I think (although I have forgotten what you were >originally trying to do now!). >But, remembering bits, you were PEEKing a value from memory and trying to do >some maths on the result... >so a bit of your code is a=PEEK(start(16)) which returns the ASCII value of >"5", you need to convert the ASCII value to a string using CHR$, then >convert the string into a numeric... >a=(VAL(CHR$(PEEK(Start(16))) I have just remembered a function which could cut this down a bit... a=(VAL(PEEK$(Start(16)) should do the same as above. PEEK$ should return the value of the string at the location specified instead of an ASCII value so you don't need to go on to do the CHR$() part. >Wayne. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 14:22:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 14:22:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08423 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23122 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:29:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23119 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from radius.ispc.net (radius.ispc.net [195.188.105.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20862 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from p034.5399-1.routers.ispc.net (nobody@p034.5399-1.routers.ispc.net [195.188.105.54]) by radius.ispc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14856 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:02:20 GMT From: "Tobes" Organization: Private User Date: 9 Mar 98 15:28:57 +0000 Subject: Beginner's questions Message-Id: <35040AB8.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: Sorry if this is tiresome, but we all have to start start somewhere. Does the AmosPro Compiler compile third party extensions? Would the AmosPro Compiler work with the Amiga Format *"Pro"* disks they gave away years ago? Thanks. ...tobes -- --------------------------------------- Why isn't phonetically spelt fonetikaly? --------------------------------------- -tobes@eclipse.co.uk- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 17:55:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 17:55:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14595 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29619 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29614 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06174 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07515; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:57:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA07348; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:54:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA11478; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:54:50 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:54:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Lee cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: help me please... In-Reply-To: <1CD153B88@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > > Ok how will do to make amos to understand that i want to threat this > > as a number instead of an ascii value? > Isnt this ASC ? or is this some other language thats bouncing round > my head! > > a=asc("5") sets a to 5 ???? > Could it also be Char or does that doe the inverse, give you the string value of an Ascii code number? Woah wait asc("5") will give you the acs character code for "5", if you want to turn the string "5" into the number "5" don't you use Val("5") or something like that? Just some thought, Scott Matott sXe From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 17:47:53 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 17:47:53 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07854 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:47:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08478 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08471 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11065 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2028608; 9 Mar 98 18:23 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003ob; Mon, 9 Mar 98 18:23:14 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 18:23:14 GMT Message-Id: <9803091823.AA003o6@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25f7f491.u10t12e.be66-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <35040AB8.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> (from "Tobes" ) (at 9 Mar 98 15:28:57 +0000) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: tobes@eclipse.co.uk Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Beginner's questions Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Tobes, > Sorry if this is tiresome, but we all have to start start somewhere. > Does the AmosPro Compiler compile third party extensions? Errr, not as such, but it DOES compile them into the code used, so thats a yes, sort of. > Would the AmosPro Compiler work with the Amiga Format *"Pro"* > disks they gave away years ago? Yes. > Why isn't phonetically spelt fonetikaly? Dunno. _ _ _ _ _ _ | "Idiots ? They're worse than idiots, |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | they're beurocrats. Thay only exist to |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | tangle people up. Wrap them round and | round in red tape till they can't move." --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 20:51:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 20:51:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13234 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10332 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10329 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA01149 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20636 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1998 19:21:50 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 9 Mar 1998 19:21:50 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.3]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA38862; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:21:49 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Tobes , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:20:33 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <35040AB8.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: Beginner's questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 09-Mar-98, Tobes smashed the keyboard with: > Sorry if this is tiresome, but we all have to start start somewhere. We've all been there :) > Does the AmosPro Compiler compile third party extensions? YES it does :) (NOTE: some ShareWare extensions can't be compiled until you register them) > > Would the AmosPro Compiler work with the Amiga Format *"Pro"* > disks they gave away years ago? It should, no reason why not as I can see.. -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The value of a program is proportional to the weight of its output. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 19:57:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 19:57:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21561 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:57:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA12236 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12233 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from radiks.net (sr.radiks.net [205.138.126.6]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16116 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from skid-vis (dial266.radiks.net [207.3.67.152]) by radiks.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17633 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:29:35 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980309142555.0069facc@radiks.net> X-Sender: skid@radiks.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 14:25:55 -0600 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: TSI Subject: Out of Stack? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: Hey again, I have a little question.. why does this cause me to get an "Out of stack space" Error and what can I do to remedy it? Thanx in advatz!!! :) --- problem: '---begin--- S1 Procedure S1 Paper 0 : Centre "Procedure S1 Here!" Wait 1 Cls 0 S2 End Proc ' Procedure S2 Paper 0 : Centre "Procedure S2 Here!" Wait 1 Cls 0 S1 End Proc Do Loop '---END--- ----------------ICQ# 1860019------------------- ------------VB5-Learning-Edition--------------- -------"To Transcendence and BEYOND!!!"-------- --Original Art, stories, & all original minds-- ------- http://www.radiks.net/skid/ ----------- ----------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 15:03:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 15:03:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15728 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:03:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25933 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25930 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:54:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15166 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:47:01 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 9 Mar 98 15:54:02 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 9 Mar 98 15:53:39 GMT+0 From: Lee Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:51:34 GMT+0 Subject: Re: help me please... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <34FC7664B@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: > >Isnt this ASC ? or is this some other language thats bouncing round > >my head! > > >a=asc("5") sets a to 5 ???? > > >This is AMOS but does the opposite of what you are thinking. > >It would set 'a' to the ASCII value of the string "5". Argh, boohoo, I'm cracking up, jibber jibber, ASC, doh, See thats just too much C, 68k ,AmigaE, Z80 asm, blah, blah. I godda stop writing games for my calculator, its doing my brain in. So is this soddin degree!!!!! ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Its just a big egg pie! ________________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 21:58:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 21:58:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16957 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08973 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:44:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08970 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11309 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:44:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2029426; 9 Mar 98 18:26 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003ok; Mon, 9 Mar 98 18:26:09 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 18:26:09 GMT Message-Id: <9803091826.AA003of@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25f7f53f.u10t12e.da633-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Eric Hyland ) (at Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:02:54 -0500 (EST)) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: a007193t@bc.seflin.org Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Stop It And Behave Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA08971 Status: RO X-Status: To the one known as Eric, > I'd like to thank Andy, and Mushy for what you wrote, and hopefully end this > by saying this was the second time I sent my Amos wish list the first time > I got no complaints in fact people liked it. I don't know if it is possible > to make doing 3D easier for novices like me, but I hope so, and it would be > nice if you guys who know how to do 3D would put examples up on the AmiNet. Making 3D easier is one of the most important things on the amiga at the moment. We need a fast, and easy to use 3D. The "unrealistic" ideas requested are all good ideas, and they do need to be addressed. Yes everyone writes code differently, and a lot of things need reinventing for each type of game, but some things are reusable again and again. I am working on something that will be easy to use. Fast ? I hope it will run at least at respectable speed, if not fast. _ _ _ _ _ _ | "If we survive, I shall dedicate my life |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | to eliminating the gene that makes you |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | so obnoxious." | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 21:58:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 21:58:00 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05223 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:57:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10850 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10847 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:39:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28111 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from p49-shoveler-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.73.109]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA6693 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:38:56 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 9 Mar 98 19:22:12 +0000 Subject: Re: Stop It And Behave Message-Id: <35044163.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: <35033B26.6740@mail.ozemail.com.au> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > Hey you guys have no right to abuse Eric. He doesn`t even have to > justify why he is on the list, he has an interest and that should be > enough. > Eric has given me heaps of help in the past, and I think his ideas are > great. > Flame On! Be on the list if you want. Give all the ideas that you want. But when someone points out than an idea is impractical and who obviously knows more about it (Eric is not a coder as he's so fond of saying) don't get aggressive and insulting (all that stuff about typical coders mentality) because I've made heaps of programs and games and I would take a reasonable guess hes never made anything in his life. I think that gives me the right to argue over it. Be on the list but realise what the list is all about, its not for that attitude and it is mostly for coders so putting down the people who make it happen(me) rather than the people who dream about it happening (eric) isn't a good idea. -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 21:22:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 21:22:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28626 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:22:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA12448 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12445 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA11022 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29461 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1998 20:38:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.89) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 9 Mar 1998 20:38:10 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Tobes CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 15:39:25 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <35040AB8.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Beginner's questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Sorry if this is tiresome, but we all have to start start somewhere. > Does the AmosPro Compiler compile third party extensions? > Would the AmosPro Compiler work with the Amiga Format *"Pro"* > disks they gave away years ago? > Thanks. > ...tobes > -- > --------------------------------------- > Why isn't phonetically spelt fonetikaly? > --------------------------------------- > -tobes@eclipse.co.uk- -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! 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From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 21:05:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 21:05:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15687 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11224 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11221 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from radiks.net (sr.radiks.net [205.138.126.6]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10443 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from skid-vis (dial266.radiks.net [207.3.67.152]) by radiks.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11118; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:52:05 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980309134812.006a4de4@radiks.net> X-Sender: skid@radiks.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 13:48:12 -0600 To: "Tobes" , amos-list@access.digex.net From: TSI Subject: Re: Beginner's questions In-Reply-To: <35040AB8.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: At 03:28 PM 3/9/98 +0000, you wrote: >Sorry if this is tiresome, but we all have to start start somewhere. yes we do... someday I might decide to start. :) >Does the AmosPro Compiler compile third party extensions? I don't know that one. >Would the AmosPro Compiler work with the Amiga Format *"Pro"* >disks they gave away years ago? yes, it's the one I have. Works like a charm.. or even better. :) ----------------ICQ# 1860019------------------- ------------VB5-Learning-Edition--------------- -------"To Transcendence and BEYOND!!!"-------- --Original Art, stories, & all original minds-- ------- http://www.radiks.net/skid/ ----------- ----------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 21:06:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 9 21:06:44 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00674 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:06:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11671 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11668 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from radiks.net (sr.radiks.net [205.138.126.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26446 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from skid-vis (dial266.radiks.net [207.3.67.152]) by radiks.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13850 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:07:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980309140331.006a3140@radiks.net> X-Sender: skid@radiks.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 14:03:31 -0600 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: TSI Subject: extension? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: Hey all, I'm a little worried about asking this question seeing as everyone has a short fuse on this list, but here goes.. I'm too aquainted with extensions, but I'm under the impression that they are "add-ins" for amos.. right? Now, I have 2 pc's and I do some coding in Visual Basic , one feature I like from VB is the SELECT CASE thingy.. I've been looking at alot of my AMOS coding and I see alot of "if x = "XXX" then... : if x = "YYY" then..." statements and I could save myself alot of coding if AMOS had the SELECT CASE statement. Would it be possible for someone to make an extension to allow that? For those of you who don't know how SELECT CASE works.. IF.. THEN Statements: --- INPUT X$ IF X$ = "Hello" THEN PRINT "Hello right back, Buddy!!!" IF X$ = "Goodbye" THEN PRINT "Ok, seeya!!!" --- SELECT CASE statements: --- INPUT X$ SELECT CASE X$ CASE "hello" PRINT "Hello right back, Buddy!!!" CASE "Goodbye" PRINT "Ok, seeya!!!" END SELECT --- ----------------ICQ# 1860019------------------- ------------VB5-Learning-Edition--------------- -------"To Transcendence and BEYOND!!!"-------- --Original Art, stories, & all original minds-- ------- http://www.radiks.net/skid/ ----------- ----------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 00:24:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 00:24:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25381 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:24:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA24846 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA24843 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23014 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:05:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.56) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:01:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: Out of Stack? Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:16:35 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > why does this cause me to get an "Out of stack space" Error and > what can I do to remedy it? ---------- > S1 > Procedure S1 > Paper 0 : Centre "Procedure S1 Here!" > Wait 1 : Cls 0 : S2 > End Proc > Procedure S2 > Paper 0 : Centre "Procedure S2 Here!" > Wait 1 : Cls 0 : S1 > End Proc > Do : Loop Well, stack space is limited. The program begins by calling the procedure S1 which in turn calls procedure S2 which calls procedure S1 which calls procedure S2 calls S1 calls S2 calls S1 calls S2 S1 S2 S1 S2 S1 S2... Phew - finally broke out!! Everytime you call a procedure (or Gosub a routine) some data is pushed onto the stack, at the end of the procedure this data is retrieved from the stack. However, both of your procedures are calling each other instead of exiting, so the data is never removed from the stack where it keeps accumulating until finally you have completely filled all available stack space... How can you remedy this? Well, you need to take a good look at what you're trying to do... why do you want these procedures to call each other in an endless loop like that? If you're trying for some type of recursion, you need to insert a counter in these procedures some place. ---------- GLOBAL COUNTER Procedure S1 Paper 0 : Centre "Procedure S1 Here!" Wait 1 : Cls 0 S2 End Proc Procedure S2 Paper 0 : Centre "Procedure S2 Here!" Wait 1 : Cls 0 : S1 Inc COUNTER If COUNTER<5 Then S1 End Proc COUNTER=0 : S1 Do Loop -------- Of course, as usual I'm typing this on my PC, so I don't really know how well this will work... ;-) You need to determine exactly what it is you're trying to accomplish as there is most likely a better way to achieve what you're after. :-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 01:12:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 01:12:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17275 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25151 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25148 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21236 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01106 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:41:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA13286 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:40:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA29736 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:40:09 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:40:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Subject: Re: Out of Stack? In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980309142555.0069facc@radiks.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Hey again, > I have a little question.. > why does this cause me to get an "Out of stack space" Error and what can I > do to remedy it? > Thanx in advatz!!! :) This is a classic programing pit fall, every time you jump to one procedure from within another, all the data (variables) from the procedure you are leaving are tossed on the 'stack' basically they are stored in quick temporary memory so they can be recalled quickly when you return to the original procedure. ex. Procedure FUN_TIMES x=100 y=320 ght=345 Proc GOOD_TIMES End Proc Now when the program hops to GOOD_TIMES in that last line all the variables (x,y,ght) are thrown on the stack, and then recalled again whenever GOOD_TIMES returns. Follow all that? Wel the problem arises when you have too many nested or looped procedure calls, then too much data gets stuck on the stack and it fills up, giving you an out of stack erorr, so: Procedure GOOD_TIMES y=1002 x=1232 For I=1 to 50 proc GOOD_TIMES Next I End Proc Will quickly use up the stack since each time GOOD_TIMES is called anew x and y are dumped on the stack not to be cleared until the new GOOD_TIMES returns. (which I actually think is never in this case) So too many x's and y's build up on the stack (yup even though they all have the same value, since Amos doesn't know that) and you get an out of stack error. Hpe that clears things up a bit, I deleted your bit of code before I could see where your stack error was but bottom line too many looped procedure calls or Gosubs (Gosub exhibits the exact same problem, this time because the old location (where to return to) is stored on the stack ) Well hope that wasn't too dense. Let me know if you've anymore questions, and happy coding! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 02:16:09 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 02:16:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13553 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA26035 for amos-out; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26032 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:42:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco6-96.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.96]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07808 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp33-ts2-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.82]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA05487 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:35:58 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 23:40:12 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980309140331.006a3140@radiks.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: extension? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 09-Mar-98, TSI wrote: >SELECT CASE statements: >--- >INPUT X$ >SELECT CASE X$ How about: if lower$(x$)="hello" then blah blah >CASE "hello" >PRINT "Hello right back, Buddy!!!" >CASE "Goodbye" >PRINT "Ok, seeya!!!" >END SELECT Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 03:30:55 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 03:30:55 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04154 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA26233 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26230 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:00:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA09956 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA17899; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:01:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:01:33 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: Stop It And Behave To: Alastair Murray cc: amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: <35044163.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 9 Mar 1998, Alastair Murray >[SNIP] > Be on the list but realise what the list is all about, its not for > that attitude and it is mostly for coders so putting down the people > who make it happen(me) rather than the people who dream about it > happening (eric) isn't a good idea. > > -Murray Your the one who started off by insulting me, and I don't just roll over, and take it I fight back. Just because you think your some kind of hot shot coder doesn't give you the right to tyr, and belittle my ideas. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 02:34:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 02:34:17 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28063 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:34:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA26252 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26249 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:06:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA10354 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA18946; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:07:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:07:45 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: Stop It And Behave To: Keith Hill cc: amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: <9803091826.AA003of@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Keith Hill wrote: > To the one known as Eric, >[SNIP] > I am working on something that will be easy to use. Fast ? I hope it will > run at least at respectable speed, if not fast. > _ _ _ _ _ _ | "If we survive, I shall dedicate my life > |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | to eliminating the gene that makes you > |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | so obnoxious." Looking foreword to that. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 05:37:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 05:37:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21193 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA26520 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26517 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA22184 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:51:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.53) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:48:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: help me please... Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 04:02:42 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > --text.txt look like this-- > 5 > 8 > -------------------- > R$="text.txt" > Open In 1,R$ : A=Lof(1) : Close 1 > Reserve As Work 16,A : Bload R$,16 : ABC=Start(16) > C1=Peek(ABC) : Inc ABC : C2=Peek(ABC) > Print C1 : rem gives the ascii value > Print Chr$(C1) : show numeral 5 > --------------------- > Ok how will do to make amos to understand that i want to treat this > as a number instead of an ascii value? > Is there anyway to convert that 5 (53) so > i can use it like this: > TAL=C1+C2 > Print TAL : want it to be 13 Sure, there is always a way... :-) ---------- Global GRABVALUE Procedure GRABDIGITS[MEMLOC, NUMDIGITS] GRABVALUE=0 While NUMDIGITS DIGIT=Peek(MEMLOC) : Inc MEMLOC ' IF this is really a digit, add it's value to the total... If (DIGIT>47 And DIGIT<58) Add GRABVALUE, DIGIT-48 Dec NUMDIGITS End If Wend End Proc ' Main Code here... R$="text.txt" Open In 1,R$ : TFSIZE=Lof(1) : Close 1 Reserve As Work 16, TFSIZE : ABC=Start(16) Bload R$, ABC GRABDIGITS[ABC, 2] : TAL=GRABVALUE Print TAL : Rem ...should be 13 End ---------- That should do the trick... It won't matter if the digits are seperated by commas, spaces, carriage returns, etc. as GRABDIGITS will simply skip over non-digits until it has gathered the quantity you specified. Really, this would be better if implemented with a parameter returned from the function, but I really don't like the Param style AMOS uses, it makes more sense to me to use a GLOBAL variable (GRABVALUE in this case)... Suggestion for AMOS Version 3.0 = Support for "REAL" function style procedures, as in: Print GRABDIGITS(ABC, 2) or at least TAL=GRABDIGITS(ABC, 2) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 06:46:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 06:46:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28909 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26595 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26592 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from radius.ispc.net (radius.ispc.net [195.188.105.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15730 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from p033.5399-1.routers.ispc.net (nobody@p033.5399-1.routers.ispc.net [195.188.105.53]) by radius.ispc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00678 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:02:42 GMT From: "Tobes" Organization: Private User Date: 10 Mar 98 10:12:42 +0000 Subject: Re: Beginner's questions Message-Id: <3505121A.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: Hi chaps (and chapettes), Thanks all for your help regarding AmosPro. I'm trying to get the manual and compiler now. A couple more questions, if I may? AmosPro doesn't seem to like the old source code I load into it from the AmosPD CD. It has a problem with *labels*. I thought it was backwards compatible! In the *HELP* guides included, it mentions that the original 1.3 compiler should be compatible with Pro, and that I need the *AmosPro_Compiler.lib* from one of the Pro disks. Well, I have the original compiler, but only the "Amiga Format" disks - and no compiler.lib. Any way around this until I shell out for the Pro Compiler? Thanks again. ...tobes -- --------------------------------------- Why isn't phonetically spelt fonetikaly? --------------------------------------- -tobes@eclipse.co.uk- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 07:52:30 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 07:52:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14543 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26702 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26699 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05525 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:10:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-25.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-25.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.89]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09958 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:09:50 +0100 (MET) Date: 10 Mar 98 12:07:23 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: FD-extension To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <1750.373T1167T7273732@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Okay, now for a (perhaps) really silly question: Can anyone assist me in how to use the combo of the fd-extension and identify.library? The function I'm trying to use (in vain so far) is the IdHardware function. I've never really tried to utilize system-calls in AMOS before so I'm quite stumped on how I'm supposed to do this. The systemcall is: identify.library/IdHardware identify.library/IdHardware NAME IdHardware - get information about the system, string (V3) SYNOPSIS String = IdHardware(Type,TagList) D0.l D0.l A0.l STRPTR IdHardware(ULONG, struct TagItem *); String = IdHardwareTags(Type,Tag1,...) STRPTR IdHardwareTags(ULONG, ULONG,...); FUNCTION Gets information about the current system environment. The result is returned as read only string. This function is fully DraCo compatible! Once a information has been read, it will be cached internally, so changes will be ignored. Use IdHardwareUpdate() to clear the cache contents. INPUTS Type -- (ULONG) Information type. These types are known: IDHW_SYSTEM -- What system is used? (e. g. "Amiga 4000") If you take a look with the tokenlist program that's shipped with one of the craft-extensions, all parameters should be numerical. Any ideas? --- Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. --- It's easier said than done. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 10:53:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 10:53:13 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04469 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28326 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:12:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28323 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (vtn1.victoria.tc.ca [199.60.222.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26703 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uv334@localhost) by vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10860; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:07:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:07:41 -0800 (PST) From: John Bintz X-Sender: uv334@vtn1 To: Amos List Subject: BSDProcs Up Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: The BSDSocket procedures are finally on Aminet. They're in dev/amos (obviously) and are called BSDSocket.lha. The commands aren't too difficult, and if you've ever used the Internet beofre (besides click-point-click), you should have them figured out easily. Remember, though, you'll need a lot of memory to do a TCP/IP stack and Amos at the same time. WebView development had to be halted because my 2 Meg board fried, and 3 med was not enough to run both oprograms. (exchuse my shcpelling). #@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@ John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca * @#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@# Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software! http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html *#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*# From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 13:02:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 13:02:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08529 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00172 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00169 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.13]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12783 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr02.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.202]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA17085 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:55:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (ccc21504@msx-1c-1-13.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.144.78]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA03427 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:55:14 +0100 (CET) From: "Rune J. Keller" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:51:48 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: FD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: I did send this to the author already. I guess he's to busy to answer so I'll let you guys answer it instead :) Just downloaded the FD extension. After having started the program I click Add to include some fd-files. No matter how many I try to include none of them shows up on the listview! When pressing the Build button I get the message that I haven't included any fd-files! What is wrong? I use the real fd-files (some of the suggested ones from Mush's page) and I have the libraries. Do I need anything else? Is it a bug? -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - paranoia is just... reality... on a higher scale! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 13:39:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 13:39:51 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24330 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02501 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02498 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:20:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco6-96.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.96]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19031 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp21-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.70]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA21367 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:14:29 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:18:32 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3505121A.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Beginner's questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 10-Mar-98, Tobes wrote: >AmosPro doesn't seem to like the old source code I load into it from >the AmosPD CD. It has a problem with *labels*. I thought it was >backwards compatible! If you still have old amos, load the program in that and highlight it all, so you can save it as ascii. Then use merge ascii in AP to pull it in again. It should work fine after that. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 11:35:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 11:35:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25363 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02668 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02665 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (f152.hotmail.com [207.82.251.31]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09129 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:26:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22629 invoked by uid 0); 10 Mar 1998 15:26:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19980310152611.22628.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.18.196.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:26:11 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.18.196.23] From: "Ragnar Fyri" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Cc: tilbake@hotmail.com Subject: Last month's big news Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:26:11 PST Status: O X-Status: "Oh there was joy in Wapping when the news flew through the land; At Maidenhead and Henley there was dancing on the strand. Rats were roasted whole at Brentford, and at Victoria Dock; And a day of celebration was commanded in Bangkok." --- T. S. Eliot: "Growltiger's last stand" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 13:45:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 13:45:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02582 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:45:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09353 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09350 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from radius.ispc.net (radius.ispc.net [195.188.105.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18791 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from p010.5399-1.routers.ispc.net (nobody@p010.5399-1.routers.ispc.net [195.188.105.30]) by radius.ispc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09082 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:17:13 GMT From: "Tobes" Organization: Private User Date: 10 Mar 98 16:27:45 +0000 Subject: EH ! Message-Id: <35056A01.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: Regarding my earlier questions, F1 Software say that the AmosPro (AP) Compiler will definately *NOT* work with the Amiga Format verison of AP, and that I'm to tell you, you're /"all wrong"/. Blitz Basic will probably do all that I need. But I hate it. It's unfriendly, It's ugly, it's dull and it probably supports Man Utd as well (no offence to all Man.U fans in Cornwall). Could somebody pleeeeeaaaase clear this one up for me. All I want is any Amos and its compiler. I have:- _SOFTWARE_ /Amos Pro/ /Amos 1.3/ /Easy Amos/ - All from Amiga Format coverdisks. /Amos Compiler (1.3)/ - orig. _HARDWARE_ /A1200 HD/ /Blizzard 060/ /Printer, modem....bits and bobs/ - Amos Pro is the only one that seems compatible with my system. I can't anyone (UK) willing to sell me the original - yet someone mentioned that they have the coverdisks and compiler running....how? Question.1) /Is original compiler compatible with Pro as stated in docs?/ Question.2) /Help....pleeeeassssseeee/ Blabbering over. ...tobes \ -- --------------------------------------- Why isn't phonetically spelt fonetikaly? --------------------------------------- -tobes@eclipse.co.uk- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 18:22:41 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 18:22:41 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17689 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:22:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17956 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:53:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17953 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:53:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13882 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm2-22.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm2-22.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.150]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23028 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:52:51 +0100 (MET) Date: 10 Mar 98 21:15:30 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: FD To: "Rune J. Keller" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1099.373T1526T12753535@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Rune J. Keller (keller@vip.cybercity.dk) wrote: >Just downloaded the FD extension. After having started the program I click >Add to include some fd-files. First, they are in the fd: assign? >No matter how many I try to include none of >them shows up on the listview! When pressing the Build button I get the >message that I haven't included any fd-files! I get that on some fd-files. It seems like it's very touchy on which ones it wants to use. It refuses (at least here) to use the fd-file for mpega.library. identify.library, scalos.library and datatypes.library goes fine. I have yet to figure out how to pass the parameters I want to though. --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- and what the hell do you know, bogbot from hell. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 20:02:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 20:02:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23044 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18473 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18464 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07322 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1621 invoked from network); 10 Mar 1998 21:14:28 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 10 Mar 1998 21:14:28 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.68]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA39948; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:14:25 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net, matti.niskanen@plai.fi, rayman@ticino.com, andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk, timh@samnet.net, gdwarf@applausenett.no, hergeir@algonet.se, peterj@centrum.dk, xs@xnet.it, optix@hotmail.com, Angus@angusm.demon.co.uk, worf@edc.ml.org, ISForce@aol.com, DA501300@ntu.ac.uk, dasoft@zetnet.co.uk Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:50:13 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Breeeding time :) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, New V2.15 of AlienBreed 3DII-LevelED released.. OK, after the little test-version (2.14) with the first steps towards a editor running in 100% intuition, I think the worst bugs have been found and the next full version is now ready. Please note that the new version is NOT running 100% intuition, I have some troubles with some of the conversions, but they'll come. Another reason for me releasing this is that I hope to get people hunting bugs in regular usage of the editor :).. Unlike V2.14 the new one will be sent to AmiNET later tonight and then it'll take a few days to get around. It's availeble from my homepage in the moment of writing, but I know that some people have problems getting stuff from my server :( Please check it out, I'll be looking towards any comments... (Please don't write me on the missing 'copy' functions in define heights, they'll be in the next version..) News in V2.15 (Released: 10-03-1998) * NEW - Editor now sets 'Tkg1:', 'Tkg2:' and 'SFX:' to 'Ab3:' if not found.. - ControlPoints can now be erased.. (Warning, might be bugs in this !!!) - New game-setup point, 'Levels'. Replaces 'Set Level Path', 'Set Level Names' and 'Set Level Music' (Intuition-based).. - The editor can now play level-background-music-tracks.. - The 'Game-Setup' pull-down menu made faster to use.. - Added 'Kill Music' to 'Misc' menu, needed to turn all the music off.. - Added 'Play Music' to 'Misc' menu.. Plays any PT-modules.. (I know it's a bit useless, but the procedure was there anyway..) - On-line-help added to 'Levels' in 'Game-Setup'.. - Added 'Help' option to 'Misc' menu, calls up the index of this guide.. - The editor can ask for your chosen screenmode.. * FIXED - View-Controlpoints options reactivated.. - View-Symbols options reactivated.. - Level-checker back running.. - The on-screen-grid is back.. - Removed the 'AQUA Rulez' requester ;-).. - Removed some unneeded code.. - Wall-GFX-cache now works proberly.. - Removed a stupid bug that made it almost imposible to use another program with the editor in the background.. - The error-requester now exits proberly.. - Fixed a bug in 'Set Alien Stats'.. - Fixed 'Link Level' now uses the right save-slot.. - 'Make Full' would ask for level-slot twice, fixed.. - The Editor now names it task proberly as '~AB3DII LevelED'.. ! NEW TOOLTYPES - 'AskSM', makes the editor ask for the screenmode when starting.. - 'GRID=(OFF|D1|D2|L1|L2), Sets the grid to start with.. - 'MUSIC=FILE, Play the PT module, module may be AB3D-packed.. ! Changed locale-strings: - 755 ! New locale-strings: - 94,1082,1198,1199,1200,1201,1649 -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ In God we trust; all else we walk through. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 19:36:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 19:36:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04695 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA21175 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21171 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from radiks.net (sr.radiks.net [205.138.126.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16157 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from skid-vis (dial2.radiks.net [205.138.126.221]) by radiks.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04694; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:00:34 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980310155646.006a348c@radiks.net> X-Sender: skid@radiks.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:56:46 -0600 To: "Mr. Giark To You" , amos-list@access.digex.net From: TSI Subject: Re: extension? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.2.32.19980309140331.006a3140@radiks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: At 11:40 PM 3/9/98 -0500, you wrote: >How about: >if lower$(x$)="hello" then blah blah > Giark Visual Basic's SELECT CASE statement has nothing to do with upper or lower case... what it does is replace "if..then..else.." statements. Here's another example.. --AMOS-- line input "How old are you?";Age if Age >10 then print "You are less than 10 years old." if Age =21 then print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" if Age >22 then print "WOW, You're OVER 21!!!" --end-- --VB-- line input "how old are you?;Age SELECT CASE Age CASE < 10 print "You are less than 10 years old." CASE = 21 print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" CASE > 22 print "WOW, You're OVER 21!!!" END SELECT --end-- ----------------ICQ# 1860019------------------- ------------VB5-Learning-Edition--------------- -------"To Transcendence and BEYOND!!!"-------- --Original Art, stories, & all original minds-- ------- http://www.radiks.net/skid/ ----------- ----------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 20:44:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 20:44:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11653 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA22728 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22725 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mb05.swip.net (mb05.swip.net [193.12.122.209]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04201 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from main (dialup150-3-11.swipnet.se [130.244.150.139]) by mb05.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA02354 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:54:04 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3505C596.29A3@swipnet.se> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:58:30 +0100 From: mg40067 Reply-To: mtl.wberg@swipnet.se X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Out of Stack? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hey again, I have a little question.. why does this cause me to get an "Out of stack space" Error and what can I do to remedy it? Thanx in advatz!!! :) You can always increase the stack space with the set buffer command but that will not solve the problem. It will only eat more memory but its takes a little longer before the error ocurse. My advice is that you dont call a procedure within another procedure. Do a loop outside the procedures instead. You can exit the procedures with the pop proc command. do proc s1 proc s2 loop From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 22:16:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 10 22:16:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA08005 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA26074 for amos-out; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26071 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from lawson.appcomp.utas.edu.au (lawson.appcomp.utas.edu.au [144.6.41.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05973 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from cbonde@localhost) by lawson.appcomp.utas.edu.au (8.8.4/8.7.1) id NAA15561; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:16:36 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:16:35 +1100 (EST) From: Cameron James Bonde To: Tobes cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: EH ! 1.35 compiler In-Reply-To: <35056A01.MD-0.196.tobes@eclipse.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Well I was going crazy trying to compile an Amospro prog with the older 1.3 compiler. But I hunted around for a coverdisk with the 1.35 compiler on it, BAM! it worked perfectly without doing any of the stuff in the Pro help file. Ive only got a bog standard A1200 though. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Cameron Bonde http://www.appcomp.utas.edu.au/students/cbonde/index.html cbonde@lawson.appcomp.utas.edu.au ICQ = 2378404 ### Check out my original Mp3's! K2000 & SY85 ### On 10 Mar 1998, Tobes wrote: > Could somebody pleeeeeaaaase clear this one up for me. All I want is > any Amos and its compiler. I have:- > > _SOFTWARE_ > /Amos Pro/ > /Amos 1.3/ > /Easy Amos/ - All from Amiga Format coverdisks. > /Amos Compiler (1.3)/ - orig. > > _HARDWARE_ > /A1200 HD/ > /Blizzard 060/ > /Printer, modem....bits and bobs/ > From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 11 21:57:55 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 11 21:57:54 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23716 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04758 for amos-out; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04755 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:30:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA07063 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28091 invoked from network); 12 Mar 1998 00:30:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO default) (208.7.254.216) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 12 Mar 1998 00:30:54 -0000 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980311103415.0067f1a8@redrose.net> X-Sender: polyestr@redrose.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:34:15 +0900 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Donna Lancaster Kellett Subject: Mushroom PD Apologies Status: O X-Status: Hi, this is mush. Im sorry for all those who have been trying to get on my FTP site for the last 2 days, and those who have emailed me. I have been putting my A1200 into a micro tower, and it took a lot longer than expected as its now in a 12 inch high tower. When I bought the tower, i didnt realise that by "compact" they meant a tiny tiny tiny inside space for the motherboard. Anyhow, its all in there now, and fully works. I cant reply to any emails, as the PC keyboard adapter I ordered from england hasnt arrived. Ive also had to send my whippet back to UK, as there is no way it will fit in my tower, and I have ordered a "Port Plus Jr." instead, which will give me 2 460K serial ports =)) Just letting everyone know whats happening. My machine is online at this time, so the FTP site should be working OK, only i cant type a thing. Im gonna send a couple of replys back to thge list from what I can see on my monitor. In a couple of weeks im gonna put ssome pics of the insides on my homepage, as im very pleased with the result, especially the sizes I had to work with. Later Mush @ the wife`s PC ********************************************************** * polyestr@redrose.net is Donna Lancaster Kellett * ********************************************************** * What we need is more people who specialize in the * * impossible. * * Theodore Roethke * ********************************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 11 22:03:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 11 22:03:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00759 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04767 for amos-out; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04764 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:33:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00891 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29107 invoked from network); 12 Mar 1998 00:33:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO default) (208.7.254.216) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 12 Mar 1998 00:33:49 -0000 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980311103710.0067abf0@redrose.net> X-Sender: polyestr@redrose.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:37:10 +0900 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Donna Lancaster Kellett Subject: Re: Blizzard 1220 Status: O X-Status: OK, I think it was Raynar who requested this. I do have a blizzard 1220 with FPU in it. My pin setup (the row of pins on the one side, like the master/slave/stand alone on the back of a HD/CD ROM) are as follows: .. .. .. .. -- the -- is where the connector pin goes. Its on the very bottom of the row. This is the only one I have, and I do have a manual if you still having problems. Mush @ wifes PC ********************************************************** * polyestr@redrose.net is Donna Lancaster Kellett * ********************************************************** * What we need is more people who specialize in the * * impossible. * * Theodore Roethke * ********************************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 11 18:18:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 11 18:18:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03200 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20593 for amos-out; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:00:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20590 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13118 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:00:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126070.agonet.it [195.32.126.70]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA08385 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:57:15 +0100 From: Pietro Ghizzoni Reply-To: ghizzo@agonet.it To: Amos-List Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:50:20 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Dairymen Soft Subject: Re: FD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 10-Mar-98, Rune J. Keller wrote: FD >I did send this to the author already. I guess he's to busy to answer so I'll >let you guys answer it instead :) Hehe :) A bit busy, but also lazy :) >Just downloaded the FD extension. After having started the program I click >Add to include some fd-files. No matter how many I try to include none of them >shows up on the listview! When pressing the Build button I get the message >that I haven't included any fd-files! Mmmhhh... do you have your FD files in the FD: directory? .. and the file names follows the standard fd style? i.e intuition_lib.fd exec_lib.fd dos_lib.fd the _lib.fd at the end of the name is important... >What is wrong? I use the real fd-files (some of the suggested ones from Mush's >page) and I have the libraries. Do I need anything else? Is it a bug? Probably a stupid interpretation of my program... the newest version will be much more intelligent ;) -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | Team AMIGA \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Professional Team Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ!! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 11 17:13:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 11 17:13:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28426 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20680 for amos-out; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:04:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20673 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26086 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29135 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1998 19:04:05 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 11 Mar 1998 19:04:05 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.22]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA44520; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:04:03 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net, matti.niskanen@plai.fi, rayman@ticino.com, andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk, timh@samnet.net, gdwarf@applausenett.no, hergeir@algonet.se, peterj@centrum.dk, xs@xnet.it, optix@hotmail.com, Angus@angusm.demon.co.uk, worf@edc.ml.org, ISForce@aol.com, DA501300@ntu.ac.uk, dasoft@zetnet.co.uk Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:02:42 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: AlienBreed Editor V2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, When I promised to put the new version of the editor on the AmiNET, I didn't take some net-problems into acount. I have big troubles connecting to the AmiNET at padderborn so it may take some time before it's out there. But if you can't wait then get it direct from my homepage.... -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm the computer your mother warned you about. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 12 20:57:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 12 20:57:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00421 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA01608 for amos-out; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01601 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13735 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126071.agonet.it [195.32.126.71]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10080; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:49:10 +0100 From: Pietro Ghizzoni Reply-To: Pietro Ghizzoni To: Amos-List , Jonas Thorell Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:48:54 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1750.373T1167T7273732@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Dairymen Soft Subject: Re: FD-extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 10-Mar-98, Jonas Thorell wrote: FD-extension >Okay, now for a (perhaps) really silly question: >Can anyone assist me in how to use the combo of the fd-extension and >identify.library? No problem.... >The systemcall is: >identify.library/IdHardware identify.library/IdHardware > NAME > IdHardware - get information about the system, string (V3) > SYNOPSIS > String = IdHardware(Type,TagList) > D0.l D0.l A0.l > STRPTR IdHardware(ULONG, struct TagItem *); > String = IdHardwareTags(Type,Tag1,...) > STRPTR IdHardwareTags(ULONG, ULONG,...); > FUNCTION > Gets information about the current system environment. The result > is returned as read only string. This function is fully DraCo > compatible! > Once a information has been read, it will be cached internally, so > changes will be ignored. Use IdHardwareUpdate() to clear the cache > contents. > INPUTS > Type -- (ULONG) Information type. These types are known: > IDHW_SYSTEM -- What system is used? > (e. g. "Amiga 4000") Since this function return a pointer to a string, in Amos is: A=Lvo Idhardware(0,0) : AMIGA$=Peek$(A,255,chr$(0)) IDHW_SYSTEM=0 TagList = NULL (0) if you want the CPU type: A=Lvo Idhardware(1,0) : CPU$=Peek$(A,255,chr$(0)) IDHW_CPU=1 TagList = NULL (0) -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | Team AMIGA \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Professional Team Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ!! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 12 19:47:43 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 12 19:47:43 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26643 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09290 for amos-out; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:37:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09287 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28582 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.70) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:30:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: extension? Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:45:41 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > --VB-- > SELECT CASE Age > CASE < 10 > print "You are less than 10 years old." > CASE = 21 > print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" > CASE > 21 > print "WOW, You're OVER 21!!!" > END SELECT > --end-- Never tried VB, but in C it's: switch(Expression) { case Constant: Do Your Stuff for this case here; break; case Constant: Do Your Stuff for this case here; of course, Your Stuff can extend across many lines, being a part of the case up until the "break" break; } Interesting that Visual Basic has apparently expanded on the switch...case style to allow case Expression instead of being limited to testing for equality. AMOS currently allows you to use the If conditional in a structured manner: If AGE<10 Print "You are less than 10 years old." End If If AGE=21 Print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" End If If AGE>21 Print "WOW, You're OVER 21!!!" End If As you can see that is very close to the style of your Select Case, the only drawback being that (in C at least), the switch statement is faster as it won't check every condition, so the equivalent AMOS code would be more like: If AGE<10 Print "You are less than 10 years old." Else If AGE=21 Print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" Else If AGE>21 Print "WOW, You're OVER 21!!!" End If End If End If This would be exactly the same as your select...case except the AMOS code is messier. Anyway, those are your two current choices: clarity with slower execution or messy with faster execution. Looks like AMOS needs support for those Select Cases as they give the best of both worlds: clarity and maximum speed. :-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 12 19:44:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 12 19:44:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22553 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11450 for amos-out; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:31:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11447 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12283 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm2-15.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm2-15.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.143]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA18274 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:30:27 +0100 (MET) Date: 12 Mar 98 22:13:13 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: FD-extension To: "Pietro Ghizzoni" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1133.375T694T13332839@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Pietro Ghizzoni (ghizzo@agonet.it) wrote: >A=Lvo Idhardware(0,0) : AMIGA$=Peek$(A,255,chr$(0)) >IDHW_SYSTEM=0 >TagList = NULL (0) Thanks, but a new problem crept up. Where does one get hold of the extension which has the TagList command? Or is it some .fd file that always have to be included? One tip for a future version of the fd-extension while I'm at it. I don't know if it's possible but... Let's say I've added 4 fd-files but in one specific program only uses one. The compiled program still tries to open the other three as well. When I used the binary datatype on one small program I compiled just to test I saw that all four libraries included in my extensionfile was listed in the output. --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- My head X-ray showed nothing. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 12 23:38:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 12 23:38:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16827 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA19273 for amos-out; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19270 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22980 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-33.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-33.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.97]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA26859 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:57:48 +0100 (MET) Date: 13 Mar 98 01:56:15 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: extension? To: "Garfield Benjamin" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1865.376T784T1162785@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Garfield Benjamin (gbenjam@sosbbs.com) wrote: >AMOS currently allows you to use the If conditional in a structured >manner: > If AGE<10 > Print "You are less than 10 years old." > End If > If AGE=21 > Print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" > End If > If AGE>21 > Print "WOW, You're OVER 21!!!" > End If or > If AGE<10 > Print "You are less than 10 years old." > Else > If AGE=21 > Print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" > Else > If AGE>21 > Print "WOW, You're OVER 21!!!" > End If > End If > End If As a substitute for select...case I don't think either is good. They're both messy. Try this instead: If AGE<10 Print "You are less than 10 years old." else if AGE=21 print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" else print "WOW, you're OVER 21!!" endif Smallest, and tidiest in my humble opinion. > Looks like AMOS needs support for those Select Cases as they > give the best of both worlds: clarity and maximum speed. :-) Is my approach good enough in the meantime? Hey, even old GFA-BASIC had select...case. It's quite handy at times since you could have like this for instance select age case 10,11-13,18 Print "You're at an age where something exciting's going to happen to you" case 80 Print "You're older than when most people die". --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- Don't worry if it doesn't work right. If everything did, you'd be out of a job. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 00:30:23 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 00:30:23 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19990 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA22326 for amos-out; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:46:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22321 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA05993 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:46:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19591 invoked by alias); 13 Mar 1998 02:45:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 19554 invoked from network); 13 Mar 1998 02:45:52 -0000 Received: from 1cust115.tnt2.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.17.115) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 1998 02:45:52 -0000 Message-ID: <005101bd4e2a$2d2c1aa0$7311fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Amos Mail Post" Cc: "Pietro Ghizzoni" , "Andrew Kellett" Subject: I've returned, methinks. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:45:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: RO X-Status: Greetings from Limbo. I have retured from my trip (for those who care, this is a small informa-tive message, btw.) I meant to mail back the List this past Sunday (the 8th) when I had arrived back from Dallas, but forgot to, now wishing I had! I now have over 130+ messages to read! Oh joy. I'm getting right on 'em. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 02:37:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 02:37:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA15416 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:37:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA26418 for amos-out; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26415 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA17919 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.54) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:04:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: extension? Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:19:05 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > As a substitute for select...case I don't think either is good. They're > both messy. Try this instead: > If AGE<10 > Print "You are less than 10 years old." > else if AGE=21 > Print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" > else > Print "WOW, you're OVER 21!!" > endif > Smallest, and tidiest in my humble opinion. > Is my approach good enough in the meantime? Well, problem is this won't work. First, you need to match every If with an End If and second, the logic is not the same. To write it in the above style, so it will work in AMOS while retaining the original logic, you'd need to do something like this: If AGE<10 Print "You are less than 10 years old." Else If AGE=21 Print"Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" Else If AGE>21 Print "WOW, you'r OVER 21!!" End If End If End If That being said, this might be a bit clearer (arguably the "best" method for AMOS) but it still lacks when compared to the Select...Case style. Anyway, the point is you are still looking at the same two basic methods, the If...End If and the If...Else...EndIf > Hey, even old GFA-BASIC had select...case. It's quite handy at > times since you could have like this for instance... You don't have to convince me, I agree with you (I'm a bit of a nut for "clean" code). If there's enough interest, when Pietro has everything sorted out, perhaps he'll implement Select...Case in AMOS version 3.0 :-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 04:24:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 04:24:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10351 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA26591 for amos-out; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26588 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05802 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:12:31 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp3.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.83]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA195 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:15:49 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp3.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 00019241; Fri, 13 Mar 98 01:10:37 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:01:43 -0700 Message-ID: <00019241.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: GUI Extension V1.7 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Can we get a definite anwswer on the release date for this extension. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 20:17:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 20:17:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02236 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA07718 for amos-out; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07715 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:42:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA15910 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab1008698; 14 Mar 98 23:38 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Amos List Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:25:43 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Bob Copying Prob :( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hiya all, I was wondering if anyone knows how to copy a bob from a sprite bank to a new position in a sprite bank? ie. I have 100 bobs in the bank (all different) and I want image 3 to be the same as image 49. I know Amcaf has a command to swap images, but obviously this is of no real use. Do I have to put a bob on the screen and grab it? (I know how to do this and how to get it in the correct position using the Del Bob and Ins Bob commands) Surely there must be a simple command to copy one bob over another? Thanx for any info you guys can give me :-) Cya...Andy -- ***************************************************************** *_______/\_____/\_______/\_____/\ * *\ /\ ___/\ /\ ___/ Andy Gibson <---------------- * * \_/\ / /\/| _ \_/\ / \/ \ ----------> aka SKiDZ/Area 51 * * / _/ / / |_| // _/ / __\ \ * * \// / \___ / \// / /__ / andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk * * /_/ \_/ /_/ \_/ <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> * * pRODUCTiONS 9T8 * ***************************************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 11:23:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 11:23:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14453 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00571 for amos-out; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00568 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04845 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12587 invoked by alias); 14 Mar 1998 14:10:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 12092 invoked from network); 14 Mar 1998 03:14:19 -0000 Received: from 1cust196.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.196) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 1998 03:14:19 -0000 Message-ID: <000201bd4ef7$4e456020$c410fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Amos Mail Post" Cc: "Mr. Giark to You" , "Andrew Kellett" Subject: ROM-kicking question. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:51:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. With all the talk of AMOS3 on the way, further Amiga upgrades, future development, and my being a programmer & coder (needing updated hardware), I've been thinking about some 3.1 for myself (my one Miggie that I use for programming is set up: A2000 '040 with 1M Chip and plenty of 32bit Fast, but still with 2.04, not too bad, but having two kick's would be nice). I had inquired several months ago on the subject of "soft" and ROM kickers for my 2000, and got something from Giark (albeit the 500 is quite similar to the 2000, since he was using his old 500 at the time). He didn't quite help me much in the way of referencing any good kickers ;) and after trying quite a few on Aminet, I still WASN'T kicking WB3 on my Amiga! After a few tries I stopped looking and working with all the kickers I had, having other (better) things to do (at the time CBATNAM). But as I said here, I'm wanting to get back to looking for a kicker that will help. I recently got word that someone I have contact with could get me an A4000 Toaster (supposedly a good load) for a relatively good deal (still no word on this yet). It's been awhile since I heard anything from him, and since I really haven't the time right now to wait on him :) it comes down to this. I'm basically looking for a good kicker (archive with some .docs, plz) that will kick WB3 on my 2000. As I mentioned earlier, some of the ones I tried (ReKick, mKick, et al.) didn't work, namely to a few things (the #1 thing was that they "claimed", or were supposed to, keep the ROM resident in memory, allowing me to cold reboot without losing the image. Wrong!). I also think my '040 accelerator and hardware config or setup might have disagreed with a few of them, thereby wonk'ing it and them not working. If anyone here has, uses, or could point me to a few good kickers, I would be a happy camper. My A2000 setup is (once more): '040 25, 1M Chip, 18M Fast, couple of internal boards, 2 SCSI and several externals. For those that want more or need any extra, mail me and I'll give you a more detailed listing of my current hardware setups, etc. Anyhow, help is appreciated. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 10:08:02 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 10:08:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03192 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA27299 for amos-out; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:58:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27296 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:58:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA05965 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1016643; 13 Mar 98 12:13 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003qs; Fri, 13 Mar 98 12:11:25 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 12:11:25 GMT Message-Id: <9803131211.AA003qr@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25fce36b.u10t12e.d90f2-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from "Garfield Benjamin" ) (at Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:19:05 -0500) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: extension? Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Garfield, > > As a substitute for select...case I don't think either is good. They're > > both messy. Try this instead: > > If AGE<10 > > Print "You are less than 10 years old." > > else if AGE=21 > > Print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" > > else > > Print "WOW, you're OVER 21!!" > > endif > > Smallest, and tidiest in my humble opinion. > > Is my approach good enough in the meantime? > Well, problem is this won't work. First, you need to match every Yes it will. > If with an End If and second, the logic is not the same. To write > it in the above style, so it will work in AMOS while retaining the > original logic, you'd need to do something like this: > If AGE<10 > Print "You are less than 10 years old." > Else If AGE=21 > Print"Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" > Else If AGE>21 > Print "WOW, you'r OVER 21!!" > End If > End If > End If What ARE you doing ? Amos explicitly implments "else if". cyagain. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "As if !" |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 11:02:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 11:02:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20665 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:02:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29300 for amos-out; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29297 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21991 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:28:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-53.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-53.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.117]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09873 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:10:46 +0100 (MET) Date: 13 Mar 98 15:08:15 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: extension? To: "Garfield Benjamin" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1907.376T767T9082936@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Garfield Benjamin (gbenjam@sosbbs.com) wrote: >> If AGE<10 >> Print "You are less than 10 years old." >> else if AGE=21 >> Print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" >> else >> Print "WOW, you're OVER 21!!" >> endif >> Smallest, and tidiest in my humble opinion. >> Is my approach good enough in the meantime? > Well, problem is this won't work. Yes it will. I tried it. >First, you need to match every If with an End If and second, the logic is not >the same. Both. If and endif is coupled the same way as select ... case ... endselect is so I can't see the problem. The logic is the same too. Select..is just more advanced in that it offers some extra features. >If AGE<10 > Print "You are less than 10 years old." >Else If AGE=21 > Print"Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" > Else If AGE>21 > Print "WOW, you'r OVER 21!!" > End If > End If >End If That would trigger the error-system. One if and three end-ifs is plain wrong. > That being said, this might be a bit clearer (arguably the "best" > method for AMOS) but it still lacks when compared to the > Select...Case style. Anyway, the point is you are still looking at > the same two basic methods, the If...End If and the If...Else...EndIf Yes but does it really matter? The result is what is importand and the if... else if ... else end if structure is quite close to the select.. syntax. --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- Create the impression that you have already reached your level of incompetence. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 19:31:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 19:31:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10974 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19466 for amos-out; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19460 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08715 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm2-44.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm2-44.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.172]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01972 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:48:05 +0100 (MET) Date: 13 Mar 98 20:45:55 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: The GUI (and FD extension) To: "Amos-list" Message-ID: <1119.376T2798T12454887@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Two small questions regarding the GUI-plugin and I hope someone has the answers. 1. Is it possible to ghost the menus when they're not supposed to be available (and unghost them again of course). I couldn't find anything about this in the manual, only regarding gadgets. 2. Is the GUI TITLE supposed to be working? It isn't recogniced as a token here. And one possible bug in the FD-extension...I don't know exactly how it works for obvious reasons but having entered some fd-files earlier I was about to remove some of them. No luck there. They disappear from the listview and the program claims to have built a new .lib file. The old commands are still available though. Oh, and is there a way to check if the audiochannels are available? --- Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. --- Create the impression that you have already reached your level of incompetence. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 20:15:42 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 13 20:15:42 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03550 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:15:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18831 for amos-out; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18828 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:37:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12793 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.60) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:33:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: extension? Phew!! DIE THREAD DIE!! Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:48:51 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: >> If AGE<10 >> Print "You are less than 10 years old." >> else if AGE=21 >> Print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" >> else >> Print "WOW, you're OVER 21!!" >> endif >> Well, problem is this won't work. > Yes it will. I tried it. Very strange as I just tried it as well and AMOS gives an error (missing End If) just as I suspected!! The only thing I can assume is that you and Keith are using AMOS Pro which must have changed things a bit. In AMOS v1.36 it will NOT work. > The logic is the same too. Select..is just > more advanced in that it offers some extra features. The logic is NOT the same. Look at the above code again. This will print "WOW, you're over 21!!" as long as AGE is greater than 9 and unequal to 21... >>If AGE<10 >> Print "You are less than 10 years old." >>Else If AGE=21 >> Print"Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" >> Else If AGE>21 >> Print "WOW, you'r OVER 21!!" >> End If >> End If >>End If > That would trigger the error-system. One if and three end-ifs is > plain wrong. Try it... it works fine. Look at the source, there ARE three Ifs. It's the only way you can do it in AMOS v1.36 to use the style you suggested. > That being said, this might be a bit clearer (arguably the "best" > method for AMOS) but it still lacks when compared to the > Select...Case style. Anyway, the point is you are still looking at > the same two basic methods, the If...End If and the If...Else...EndIf > Yes but does it really matter? The result is what is importand > and the if... else if... else end if... structure is quite close to > the select.. syntax. Of course not. Actually, I don't even know what we're debating here!! I was simply responding to the VB-guy's post about Select...Case. In the end, it doesn't matter to me: I'll use If... EndIf, If...Else...EndIf, as it's six one way and half a dozen the other, but the whole point of this thread was that it might be nice to have support for SELECT...CASE in AMOS. :-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 02:39:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 02:39:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23692 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 02:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA29071 for amos-out; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:49:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA29068 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:49:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco1-45.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.45]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01585 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:49:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp3-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.52]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA16609 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:43:33 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:48:27 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1119.376T2798T12454887@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: The GUI (and FD extension) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 13-Mar-98, Jonas Thorell wrote: >2. Is the GUI TITLE supposed to be working? It isn't recogniced as a token >here. It's Gui titles. Manual error, since corrected. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 10:36:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 10:36:00 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14182 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00558 for amos-out; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:18:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00555 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14950 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-33.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-33.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.97]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07653 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:18:08 +0100 (MET) Date: 14 Mar 98 15:07:35 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: The GUI (and FD extension) To: "Mr. Giark To You" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <812.377T1774T9073659@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Mr. Giark To You (giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org) wrote: >>2. Is the GUI TITLE supposed to be working? It isn't recogniced as a token >>here. >It's Gui titles. Manual error, since corrected. Stupid me, why didn't I think of that? And since you say it's been corrected, what's the current version of it? The version I have is 1.62. Is that the latest one? --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- No, I'm *from* outer space, I only *work* in California. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 11:43:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 11:43:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16385 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00553 for amos-out; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00550 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:18:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04650 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:18:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-33.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-33.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.97]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07649 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:18:06 +0100 (MET) Date: 14 Mar 98 15:12:21 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: extension? Phew!! DIE THREAD DIE!! To: "Garfield Benjamin" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2703.377T1052T9123333@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Garfield Benjamin (gbenjam@sosbbs.com) wrote: >>> Well, problem is this won't work. > > Yes it will. I tried it. > Very strange as I just tried it as well and AMOS gives an error > (missing End If) just as I suspected!! The only thing I can > assume is that you and Keith are using AMOS Pro which must > have changed things a bit. In AMOS v1.36 it will NOT work. Yup, you're right. It's AMOS Pro that allows it. Just ran Classic too and tried it. Error right away. >> The logic is the same too. Select..is just >> more advanced in that it offers some extra features. > The logic is NOT the same. Look at the above code again. This > will print "WOW, you're over 21!!" as long as AGE is greater than > 9 and unequal to 21... Ooops! You're completely right. But if we take another piece of code then, like this. If A=1 print "Hello" else if a>1 and a<10 print "A is now between 2 and 9" else print "A is 10 or higher" endif and the same code using select select A case 1 print "Hello" case 2-9 print "A is now between 2 and 9" case default print "A is 10 or higher" end case Not much of a difference. This is assuming one is using Pro, where the above syntax of if else if holds true. Here the logic is exactly the same. If clauses or select clauses is more often than not completely interchangeable. Sometimes select is far more efficient though. > > That would trigger the error-system. One if and three end-ifs is > > plain wrong. > Try it... it works fine. Just did. Pro claims it's endif without if. In classic it worked as it should. So we were both right. Didn't Europress claim that Pro was a 100% compatible to classic, beside the extensions? Well, it isn't apparently. > other, but the whole point of this thread was that it might be > nice to have support for SELECT...CASE in AMOS. :-) Nice it would be indeed, especially for those stuck with Classic it seems. But for me there are other things that should be higher up on the prioritylist. Hopefully whoever is upgrading it thinks the same (hopefully for me that is). Only reason that I don't know that is that I just recently resubbed here. Shall we put this debate to end now? It seems we're basically agreeing. --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- Form an orderly queue behind the gunsight! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 14:25:35 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 14:25:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10352 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA02669 for amos-out; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02666 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco1-45.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.45]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06444 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp36-ts2-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.85]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA03629 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:38:41 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:43:20 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <812.377T1774T9073659@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: The GUI (and FD extension) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 14-Mar-98, Jonas Thorell wrote: >Stupid me, why didn't I think of that? You may not have the extension command lister. It's invaluable for betatesting extensions, it lists all the commands in the extension. You can get it from Mush's page. >And since you say it's been corrected, what's the current version of it? The >version I have is 1.62. Is that the latest one? 1.65 was out, for beta. 1.70 is due out in a few days. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 19:50:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 19:50:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22577 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07616 for amos-out; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:51:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07613 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13120 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-15.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-15.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.79]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03655 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:50:51 +0100 (MET) Date: 14 Mar 98 23:24:04 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: The GUI (and FD extension) To: "Mr. Giark To You" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1269.377T206T14042895@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Mr. Giark To You (giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org) wrote: >>Stupid me, why didn't I think of that? >You may not have the extension command lister. Would that be the one that Claes Ahlberg wrote? If so I can't find any use of it since it only lists what extensions I have installed, not what commands they contain. I have one small program that came with the Craft extension that lists the commands but it's quite buggy. >It's invaluable for betatesting extensions, it lists all the commands in the extension. >You can get it from Mush's page. Where? I couldn't find it there anyway. A new version of the DME extension caught my eye though. >>And since you say it's been corrected, what's the current version of it? The >>version I have is 1.62. Is that the latest one? >1.65 was out, for beta. 1.70 is due out in a few days. Ah, nice. --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- A penny saved is ridiculous. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 18:58:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 14 18:58:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17450 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07482 for amos-out; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07479 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA06497 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.65) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:24:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: extension? Phew!! DIE THREAD DIE!! Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:40:15 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Yup, you're right. It's AMOS Pro that allows it. Just ran Classic > too and tried it. Error right away. > ...Pro claims it's endif without if. In classic it worked as it > should. So we were both right. > Didn't Europress claim that Pro was a 100% compatible to classic, > beside the extensions? Well, it isn't apparently. Very interesting. You're right, it seems there are some subtle differences between the AMOS Classic and Pro versions that neither of us realized. > Nice it would be indeed... But for me there are other things that > should be higher up on the prioritylist. I agree. Select...Case would be a nice touch, but there are certainly more important issues (which have been addressed by others, so I won't repeat them here). > Hopefully whoever is upgrading it thinks the same (hopefully for > me that is). Only reason that I don't know that is that I just > recently resubbed here. Welcome back to the list. Pietro Ghizzoni is the man responsible for securing the AMOS source code and the leader of the development team (I think there is a team, there was some mention of it on this list) responsible for the updated AMOS version 3. > Shall we put this debate to end now? It seems we're basically > agreeing. AGREED. :-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 15 00:11:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 15 00:11:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05439 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 00:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08193 for amos-out; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:15:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08190 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco27-48.cas.golden.net [209.89.179.48]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05306 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:15:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp19-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.68]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA04614 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:09:01 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 22:47:10 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1269.377T206T14042895@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: The GUI (and FD extension) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 14-Mar-98, Jonas Thorell wrote: >Would that be the one that Claes Ahlberg wrote? No. >of it since it only lists what extensions I have installed The one I speak of lists all the actual commands in any extension. It also gives an idea of the parameters needed. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 15 04:19:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 15 04:19:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14565 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 04:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA08661 for amos-out; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08658 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA03446 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.52) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:36:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: Bob Copying Prob :( Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:52:11 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > I was wondering if anyone knows how to copy a bob from a > sprite bank to a new position in a sprite bank? > (I know how to do this and how to get it in the correct position using > the Del Bob and Ins Bob commands) > Surely there must be a simple command to copy one bob over > another? Hmmm... don't know of any actual AMOS command that does this, but then again I'm not very familiar with AMOS Pro. For a "quick and easy" solution, I'd just use the method you mentioned above, wrap it up in a procedure and you have your own custom command: Procedure CLONE_BOB[SOURCEIMAGE,DESTIMAGE] CURRENTSCREEN=Screen IMGSTRUCT=Sprite Base(SOURCEIMAGE) IMGWIDTH=Deek(IMGSTRUCT)*16 IMGHEIGHT=Deek(IMGSTRUCT+2) IMGDEPTH=Peek(IMGSTRUCT+5) Hot Spot SOURCEIMAGE,$0 Screen Open 7,IMGWIDTH,IMGHEIGHT,2^IMGDEPTH,Lowres Curs Off : Cls 0 Paste Bob 0,0,SOURCEIMAGE Get Bob DESTIMAGE,0,0 To IMGWIDTH,IMGHEIGHT Screen Close 7 Screen CURRENTSCREEN End Proc NOTE: This routine will set the image-handles to 0,0 This requires 1 Vbl to clone a 64w X 64h 64-colour bob on my 14MHz machine (probably not much faster on any CPU due to the heavy reliance on the blitter), so whether it's fast enough to be useful or not, only you can decide... ;-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 15 04:42:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 15 04:42:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01571 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 04:42:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA08746 for amos-out; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 03:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08743 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 03:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netwave.net (mail.netwave.net [207.112.132.11]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09809 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 03:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pppsrs87.netwave.net (pppsrs87.netwave.net [209.100.37.87]) by mail.netwave.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA07814 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:33:51 -0600 Date: 15 Mar 98 02:08:02 -0600 From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" Subject: Re: extension? To: "* AMOS Mailing List *" In-Reply-To: <2387.373T1512T13433493@netwave.net> Message-ID: <2554.378T146T1282795@netwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: I thought I sent this to the list, but apparently not. Does this sound more feasible than all the If Else statements? TSI digitized on 09-Mar-98 14:03:31: > Hey all, > I'm a little worried about asking this question seeing as everyone > has a short fuse on this list, but here goes.. Oh, only eric causes that effect :) > I'm too aquainted with extensions, but I'm under the impression > that they are "add-ins" for amos.. right? Now, I have 2 pc's take 2 to equal 1 amiga ;) > and I do some coding in Visual Basic > , one feature I like from VB is the > SELECT CASE thingy.. I've been looking at alot of my AMOS coding > and I see alot of "if x = "XXX" then... : if x = "YYY" then..." > statements and I could save myself alot of coding if AMOS had the > SELECT CASE statement. Would it be possible for someone to make an > extension to allow that? For those of you who don't know how SELECT > CASE works.. > IF.. THEN Statements: > --- > INPUT X$ > IF X$ = "Hello" THEN PRINT "Hello right back, Buddy!!!" > IF X$ = "Goodbye" THEN PRINT "Ok, seeya!!!" > --- > SELECT CASE statements: > --- > INPUT X$ > SELECT CASE X$ > CASE "hello" > PRINT "Hello right back, Buddy!!!" > CASE "Goodbye" > PRINT "Ok, seeya!!!" > END SELECT > --- No extension. BASIC Amos: You can use: ON X GOTO/GOSUB It's similar to a SWITCH (X$)/CASE in C. -- XT$="hg" : Rem It's quicker to define the string when ' you will use it often. ' And it's easier to change :) _Choice: Y$=Lower$(Left$(X$,1)) X=Instr(XT$,X$) On X Goto _Hello,_Goodbye ' X= 1 or 2, not 0 or 1 ' I use GOTO so there's no RETURN to here. ' The next RETURN will go back to the ' calling function. ' This is a fallback statement. ' INSTR will set X=0 so you know that ' the INSTRing search was unsuccessful. Print "Command not recognized" Return _Hello: Print "Hello right back, Buddy!!!" Return _Goodbye: Print "Ok, seeya!!!" Return -- Greets, - Rand -- ______ ________________________ //// | _ \ _____ ___ __ _____ mailto:rand@netwave.net //// | [_} )(___ \ ( \ | ( _ \ http://www.netwave.net/members/rand | _ ( / __ \ | \| | |_} ) //// |__| \___)(_______(__|\____(_____/ \\\\//// * <-- Tribble {{* <-- Klingon tribble From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 15 09:14:09 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 15 09:14:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20106 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08921 for amos-out; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08918 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13683 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:28:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm2-18.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm2-18.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.146]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28383 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:28:36 +0100 (MET) Date: 15 Mar 98 14:24:11 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: AMOS V3? To: "Garfield Benjamin" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1751.378T566T8643135@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: RO X-Status: I'm changing the subject here... Garfield Benjamin (gbenjam@sosbbs.com) wrote: > Welcome back to the list. Thanks. > Pietro Ghizzoni is the man responsible for securing the AMOS > source code Nice work really. I thought Europress was really adamant on this subject that it shouldn't be available to none but them and Francois Lionet. So, congratulations to Pietro for pulling it through. > and the leader of the development team (I think > there is a team, there was some mention of it on this list) > responsible for the updated AMOS version 3. Hm, is there a backlog of this list or something where one can check what's been suggested in the past and what the current status is? BTW, what kind of status will the updated AMOS get? Freeware, Shareware, Licenseware, Commercial or what? Since it needs quite a lot of upgrading I'm really curios. I have used several differnt languages on the Amiga over the years but for some reasons I tend to come back to AMOS every now and then. Nothing beats it when it comes to power compared to the easy of use ratio. Probably the reason why I still use it despite that I have several other languages installed as well. Including BlitzBasic (powerful but lacking ease of use and valuable tools), Hisoft Pascal (pretty useless) and GCC (powerful but not easy to use). --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- There can be only one! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 15 19:41:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 15 19:41:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25366 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA14825 for amos-out; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14822 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:38:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10656 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm2-31.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm2-31.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.159]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA01631 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:38:12 +0100 (MET) Date: 16 Mar 98 00:35:14 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Textfile parsing To: "AMOS-m" Message-ID: <794.379T733T352546@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Okay, see if someone can help me out here. What I want is to take an ordinary textfile and process in certain ways. What I need to do is to 1. Determine how many lines of text it is in it. How? 2. Use the above value making a for-loop like For a=1 to grab one line of text and insert it in t$(a) next I've tried with input # and line input # but they seem to want to grab the whole text in one chunk. Any help appreciated. --- Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. --- Do files get embarrassed when they get unzipped? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 04:32:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 04:32:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08448 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA16474 for amos-out; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 03:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16471 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 03:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from lpt.fi (ameba.lpt.fi [193.166.79.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA05967 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 03:09:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tekupc66.lpt.fi [193.166.70.66] by lpt.fi with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0yEUxn-00011p-00; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:09:39 +0200 Message-ID: <350CDE90.66F0@lpt.fi> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:10:56 +0200 From: Aki Suuronen Reply-To: asuurone@lpt.fi Organization: LTOL X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: free sources Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: If somebody want to continue or use parts of games that I have made with Amos Pro they may download the sources from http://ameba.lpt.fi/~asuurone/myamos.html I hope somebody have some use for them. -- Suuronen Aki asuurone@lpt.fi http://web-users.lpt.fi/~asuurone/ Amiga 4000T/040/25Mhz/18MB/1.3GB/1.2GB/CDRom P200MMX/32/4.3GB/24xCDRom/Stingray6MB From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 06:24:41 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 06:24:40 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24713 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA16930 for amos-out; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16927 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10662 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:13:15 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp3.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.83]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA146 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 03:16:25 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp3.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 00019BD3; Mon, 16 Mar 98 03:11:11 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:07:01 -0700 Message-ID: <00019BD3.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Sorting Problem To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: RO X-Status: Greetings, I have a problem with sorting data that I cannot seem to get my head around and am hoping someone can help me out or point me in the right direction. My program has a memory bank which consists of 128 blocks of memory, each 256k in size. Each memory block has a name and category and I want to be able to sort the bank by either. When I sort by name and category the sort works fine but only the names/category have been sorted. I need the memory blocks sorted to conicide with the newly sorted names. Where do I start? I hope I have explained it clearly. Thanks inadvance. Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 09:25:35 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 09:25:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00427 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17295 for amos-out; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17290 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:03:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.clara.net (hermes.clara.net [195.8.69.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26097 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clara.net (du-743.claranet.co.uk [195.8.75.236]) by hermes.clara.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA06767 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:03:51 GMT Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:03:51 GMT Message-Id: <199803161303.NAA06767@hermes.clara.net> From: Nathan Reynolds To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Sorting problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.08 Status: O X-Status: I'm not exactly sure how you're sorting. Are you using a reference list? Or messing about with the internal structure of the bank? Send some source code to me or the list. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 13:33:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 13:33:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10677 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23367 for amos-out; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23364 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco6-116.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.116]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14135 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:20:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp3-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.52]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA14004 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:14:33 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:18:55 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <687.379T1266T8633675@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Textfile parsing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 16-Mar-98, Jonas Thorell wrote: >>Define ordinary text file. >One that gets created by, for example, >Exec "dir c: >t:list" >>Using Set Input 10,-1 tells it to expect only Chr$(10) as the EOL. >That did the trick! Thanks. That's what happens when you don't use a >programming-language in a long time. Not a problem. And, for making regular text files, don't use standard Print #1,A$. Use Print #1,A$;Chr$(10); That will output in the standard format. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 15:12:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 15:12:39 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12469 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA27741 for amos-out; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27738 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.clara.net (hermes.clara.net [195.8.69.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14805 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clara.net (du-622.claranet.co.uk [195.8.75.150]) by hermes.clara.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08368 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:04:37 GMT Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:04:37 GMT Message-Id: <199803161704.RAA08368@hermes.clara.net> From: Nathan Reynolds To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re[3]: Sorting problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.08 Status: O X-Status: If you used your own sorting technique rather than the one built into AMOS, things will be easier. With 128 blocks the speed difference shouldn't really matter. Here's a code fragment for you to mess around with. I'm typing this straight from my head, so it isn't tested. For FOO=1 To 128 For FOO2=1 to 128 If NAME$(FOO)FOO2 Swap NAME$(FOO),NAME$(FOO2) Swap BANKNUM(FOO),BANKNUM(FOO2) EndIf Next Next As well as the NAME$() array, I've also added a BANKNUM array which relates to NAME$() to tell you which bank has which name. You may be able to get a better sorting algorithm yourself. Oh, and I'm not sure if the logic in the If statement is correct. You may have to adjust it to NAME$(FOO)>NAME$(FOO2). Maybe I'll be able to do more when I get the source. Hope it works, Nath. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 13:41:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 13:41:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09968 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21921 for amos-out; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21913 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11347 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:59:08 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.82]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA122 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:02:08 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp1.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0002428A; Mon, 16 Mar 98 07:56:50 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:38:29 -0700 Message-ID: <0002428A.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re[2]: Sorting problem To: amos-list@access.digex.net, Nathan Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Each block name is stored in an array, NAME$(). So when sorting, I use SORT(NAME$(0)) and this only sorts the array. I need to sort the blocks associated with NAME$() in the same order. I will have some source code tomorrow. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Sorting problem Author: Nathan Reynolds at Internet Date: 16/03/98 13:03 I'm not exactly sure how you're sorting. Are you using a reference list? Or messing about with the internal structure of the bank? Send some source code to me or the list. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 20:34:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 20:34:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00877 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:34:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA23301 for amos-out; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23294 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16428 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id ae2021711; 16 Mar 98 22:35 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Amos List Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1978 11:30:59 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: Bob Copying Prob :( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On Sunday 15-Mar-98 at 07:52:11, a nutter named Garfield Benjamin had wet pants when they typed about `Re: Bob Copying Prob :('. > Hmmm... don't know of any actual AMOS command that does this, > but then again I'm not very familiar with AMOS Pro. > For a "quick and easy" solution, I'd just use the method you > mentioned above, wrap it up in a procedure and you have your > own custom command: Hi there... Many thanx for your help. It works nicely. Many many many thanx :) Shame there is no Bob Copy command though! :( Hey, maybe one of the guys such as Peter Cahill or Chris Hodges could do one for their extensions? For those of you who want to know...I wanted to copy a bob from one position in the sprite bank to another position in it. ie Summat like a simple command: Copy Bob 49 to 4 Without all the hassles of having to paste a bob and grabbing it again! Seems silly. Amcaf has a great swap bob command, so why not a copy command??? -- ***************************************************************** *_______/\_____/\_______/\_____/\ * *\ /\ ___/\ /\ ___/ Andy Gibson <---------------- * * \_/\ / /\/| _ \_/\ / \/ \ ----------> aka SKiDZ/Area 51 * * / _/ / / |_| // _/ / __\ \ * * \// / \___ / \// / /__ / andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk * * /_/ \_/ /_/ \_/ <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> * * pRODUCTiONS 9T8 * ***************************************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 03:11:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 03:11:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00867 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 03:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA26537 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:08:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26534 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:08:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04481 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port34.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.134]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07962 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:08:33 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1991 19:13:58 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: Where can I get the DOOM extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hi all... Where can I get the doom extension? JB From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 22:22:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 22:22:13 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17276 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25738 for amos-out; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25735 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from znet.groupz.net (znet.groupz.net [204.116.90.34]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28300 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (ags-5200-5-p15.groupz.net) by znet.groupz.net with SMTP (1.37.109.24/16.2) id AA260482181; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:36:21 -0500 Message-Id: <350E0B9B.3C86@mail.groupz.net> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:35:23 -0800 From: Bartra-Pettengill Reply-To: mati@groupz.net Organization: GroupZ.net Customer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-GZone (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: F1 aga extension Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Can someone tell me about the F1 aga extension? like what it can do. Wolfpack From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 23:09:40 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 16 23:09:40 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14260 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25746 for amos-out; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25743 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from znet.groupz.net (znet.groupz.net [204.116.90.34]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08976 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (ags-5200-5-p15.groupz.net) by znet.groupz.net with SMTP (1.37.109.24/16.2) id AA264862511; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:41:51 -0500 Message-Id: <350E0CE5.EEA@mail.groupz.net> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:40:53 -0800 From: Bartra-Pettengill Reply-To: mati@groupz.net Organization: GroupZ.net Customer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-GZone (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: amcaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: can amcaf load/display aga hires pics and anims? wolfpack From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 15:05:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 15:05:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24647 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08597 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08594 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from star.flashnet.it (star.flashnet.it [194.247.160.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27171 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip048.pool-01.flashnet.it (Berionne@ip048.pool-01.flashnet.it [194.247.191.48]) by star.flashnet.it (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA17840 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:26:27 +0100 Date: 16 Mar 98 20:26:59 +0100 From: "Michele Berionne" Subject: Re: Sorting Problem To: "Declan_Gorman" In-Reply-To: <00019BD3.eval@modusmedia.com> Message-ID: <666.379T2993T12266542@flashnet.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Hi there! > My program has a memory bank which consists of 128 blocks of memory, > each 256k in size. Each memory block has a name and category and I > want to be able to sort the bank by either. A bunch of memory! :-))) Are you sure they are 256K each? Anyway I cannot understand what you reallt want to do: you'd better explain the bank structure and what exactly fails. Bye berionne@flashnet.it >>Flagger<< +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 07:11:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 07:11:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28603 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:11:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26833 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 05:06:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26830 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 05:06:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA09556 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 05:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26997 invoked from network); 17 Mar 1998 10:06:56 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 17 Mar 1998 10:06:56 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.45]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA44698 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:06:54 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:04:01 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199803161704.RAA08368@hermes.clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[4]: Sorting problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 16-Mar-98, Nathan Reynolds smashed the keyboard with: > If you used your own sorting technique rather than the one built into > AMOS, things will be easier. With 128 blocks the speed difference shouldn't > really matter. Grab the JVP-NoKids V1.01 extension from my homepage and stuff it in slot 25 (If you use Amos Pro). It holds a very fast binary string-sorter, that also has the ability to remap the sort, like making NoCase/Case sort or doing it reverse. Just up to you.. Average sorting speed for that command is about 4000 strings/sec on a 030/50 Cpu... The extension is freeware :) -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ System going down at 5 pm to install scheduler bug. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 07:12:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 07:12:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12852 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:12:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26838 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 05:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26835 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 05:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA19111 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 05:07:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27008 invoked from network); 17 Mar 1998 10:06:59 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 17 Mar 1998 10:06:59 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.45]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB44698; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:06:56 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Jamie Bentley , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:04:14 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: Where can I get the DOOM extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 16-Mar-91, Jamie Bentley smashed the keyboard with: > Hi all... > > Where can I get the doom extension? The extension-list at my homepage has it online :) -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 18 01:23:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 18 01:23:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA14158 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA24312 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24309 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA23716 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab1007545; 17 Mar 98 23:36 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Jonas Thorell , Amos List Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:51:37 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <794.379T733T352546@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: Textfile parsing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On Sunday 15-Mar-98 at 23:35:14, a nutter named Jonas Thorell had wet pants when they typed about `Textfile parsing'. >Okay, see if someone can help me out here. What I want is to take an >ordinary textfile and process in certain ways. >1. Determine how many lines of text it is in it. How? >2. Use the above value making a for-loop like >For a=1 to >grab one line of text and insert it in t$(a) Hiya Jonas, Here is a nice bit of code which I have been using for a long long time in many disk mag coded productions (eg. DMC, BTF etc). Simply cut this out and use the Merge ASCII option to load it into Amos to fiddle about with it...enjoy. ' ' *************************************** ' ' Load and process a text file easily :) ' bY Andy Gibson ' ' I hope this helps you out Jonas.... ' ' *************************************** ' ' Depending on the size of your file, you may need to UP this value... Set Buffer 40 ' ' LINES must be global here... Global TXT$,LINES ' ' Enter your text file's full path here... Proc _LOAD_TXT["dev:dir/file"] ' ' ' Now we can use a Dim with the correct amount of lines to hold ' each line in there... Dim TXT$(LINES) Global TXT$() ' ' Simply sort the lines into the Global Dim here... Proc _SORT_FILE ' ' ' Now you can easily read any line of the text held in the array ' TXT$(). ' ' ' Procedure are here... ' Procedure _LOAD_TXT[TXT$] ' ' This Proc will work out how many lines are in your file. ' Checks for normal Chr$(10) RETURN code. You could alter ' it to Chr$(13) for PC text files if need be.... ' ' Amcaf only.... (no need to use Open in etc...) ' Dload TXT$,17 ' ' ' Amos normal way... Open In 1,TXT$ L=Lof(1) : Close 1 Reserve As Data 7,L Bload CF$,7 ' ' ' Read Lines... POS=Start(7) : LINES=0 ' Do Exit If POS>=Bank End(7) LINES1=Hunt(POS To Bank End(7),Chr$(10)) ' ' Wanna see the text... A$=Peek$(POS,POS-LINE,Chr$(10)) Print A$ ' Exit If LINE=Bank End(7) or LINE=0 POS=LINE+1 Inc LINES Loop ' ' One other point to note, the Bank End command is not an normal ' Amos Pro one! And I can't remember which Ext I have installed ' which uses it! If this code doesn't funtion properly in your ' interpreter, simply change the Bank End commands to summat ' more suitable like Start(bnk)+start(bnk) to Length(bnk) ' End Proc Procedure _SORT_FILE ' ' Hold each line of text in the array...easy or what? ' POS=Start(7) ' For I=0 To LINES A$=Peek$(POS,Bank End(7),Chr$(10)) If A$>"" TXT$(I)=Peek$(POS,Bank End(7),Chr$(10)) Add POS,Len(TXT$(I))+1 Else Inc POS End If Next I ' ' No more need to hold the file in a mem bank, so erase it... ' Erase 7 ' End Proc Onbiosuly you could also do more to this such as adding pages and the likes, but I'll leave you to easily work that one out :) Tarra for now....Andy Gibson -- ***************************************************************** *_______/\_____/\_______/\_____/\ * *\ /\ ___/\ /\ ___/ Andy Gibson <---------------- * * \_/\ / /\/| _ \_/\ / \/ \ ----------> aka SKiDZ/Area 51 * * / _/ / / |_| // _/ / __\ \ * * \// / \___ / \// / /__ / andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk * * /_/ \_/ /_/ \_/ <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> * * pRODUCTiONS 9T8 * ***************************************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 16:16:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 16:16:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25047 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:16:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02266 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02263 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23022 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ac2008327; 17 Mar 98 15:06 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003s0; Tue, 17 Mar 98 15:04:50 GMT Date: Tue, 17 Mar 98 15:04:50 GMT Message-Id: <9803171504.AA003rv@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <2602520f.u10t12e.ea552-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <002c01bd51d7$5925a620$aaf441c2@host.telepac.pt> (from "Marco A.G.Pinto" ) (at Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:00:21 -0800) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: nop10942@mail.telepac.pt Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: A photo of Marco A.G.Pinto Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id KAA02264 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Marco, > Hi! > =20 > Here comes a photo of myself! > =20 > All the best! no smegging huge binaries ! Especially base64'd ones. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "I am not a number, I am a free man" |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 12:57:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 12:57:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18649 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01858 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01851 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpt6.stm.tudelft.nl (cpt6.stm.tudelft.nl [130.161.247.6]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA29227 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:17:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803171517.KAA29227@pony-2.mail.digex.net> Received: by cpt6.stm.tudelft.nl (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA15870; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:19:23 +0100 From: "Maarten D. de Jong" Subject: Files uploaded by Marco Pinto To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 17 Mar 98 16:19:23 MET Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: O X-Status: Hi. Look, I know you probably mean well, but will you please refrain from sending binaries to this list in the future? Especially if they are the size of the ones you sent? Sending files to the list won't help in getting them onto the Aminet; much better to ask how it's done instead of dumping them here. Regards, Maarten From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 19:54:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 19:54:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10403 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA18808 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18805 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:35:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from star.flashnet.it (star.flashnet.it [194.247.160.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02187 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip036.pool-17.flashnet.it (Berionne@ip036.pool-17.flashnet.it [195.191.2.164]) by star.flashnet.it (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA17120 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:35:33 +0100 Date: 17 Mar 98 19:36:18 +0100 From: "Michele Berionne" Subject: Re: Re[3]: Sorting problems To: "Nathan Reynolds" In-Reply-To: <199803161704.RAA08368@hermes.clara.net> Message-ID: <687.380T947T11764580@flashnet.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Hi there! > For FOO=1 To 128 > For FOO2=1 to 128 > If NAME$(FOO)FOO2 > Swap NAME$(FOO),NAME$(FOO2) > Swap BANKNUM(FOO),BANKNUM(FOO2) > EndIf > Next > Next Don't use something like this: it repeats 128^2 times the same operations, even if the data are already sorted. You can better think about a loop with a flag: if the datas are sorted, exit from the loop. Bye berionne@flashnet.it >>Flagger<< +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 10:35:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 10:35:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04639 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26938 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26935 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.telepac.pt (venus.telepac.pt [194.65.3.39]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28986 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from host ([194.65.244.170]) by mail.telepac.pt (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 584-40066L0S0) with SMTP id AAA18434 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:55:19 +0000 Message-ID: <002b01bd51d7$233164a0$aaf441c2@host.telepac.pt> Reply-To: "Marco A.G.Pinto" From: "Marco A.G.Pinto" To: Subject: Two progs made by me in AMOS Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:00:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3007.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BD5193.DA53A880" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3007.0 Status: O X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BD5193.DA53A880 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000E_01BD5193.DA53A880" ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01BD5193.DA53A880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! I don't know how to upload files. Can anyone upload these two programs I have made to Aminet? I have sent them there via Email but they were not put there. All the best! >Marco A.G.Pinto, from Europe! =20 Radical and Amiga Fanatic! University Student of "Informatic of Management". A1200 030 50Mhz 8Mb Fast ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01BD5193.DA53A880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello!

I don't know how to upload files. Can anyone = upload
these two programs I have made to Aminet? I have
sent them there via Email but they were not put there.
All the best!
      >Marco A.G.Pinto, = from=20 Europe!
 
 
Radical and Amiga = Fanatic!
University = Student of=20 "Informatic of Management".
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quoted-printable Hi! =20 Here comes a photo of myself! =20 All the best! >Marco A.G.Pinto, from Europe! =20 Radical and Amiga Fanatic! 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Hi!
 
Here comes a photo of = myself!
 
All the best!
      >Marco A.G.Pinto, = from=20 Europe!
 
 
Radical and Amiga = Fanatic!
University = Student of=20 "Informatic of Management".
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14:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd05.btx.dtag.de (fwd05.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.165]) by mailout04.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0yF2I1-0008IE-00; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:44:45 +0100 Received: (025652717-0001(btxid)@[193.159.80.56]) by fwd05.btx.dtag.de id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:44:30 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:44:30 +0100 To: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: how to make the text-background transparent X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Sender: 025652717-0001@t-online.de From: G.Greven@t-online.de (Georg Greven) Status: O X-Status: SUBSCRIBE amos-list G.Greven@t-online.de Hi! I am programming an adventure game. My problem is the background colour of the text, when it is printed on the gfx.Is there any way to switch off the paper colour, so that only the text and not the background is printed over the graphics??? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 19:50:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 19:50:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01301 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA16622 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16619 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:44:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA21197 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.53) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:41:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: A photo of Marco A.G.Pinto Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:56:14 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: >> Hi! >> Here comes a photo of myself! >> All the best! > no smegging huge binaries ! > Especially base64'd ones. Yes, I can agree with you on the issue of receiving such large binaries via the AMOS LIST, but I have one question... WHERE do we put this photo?! GFX/MISC?!? Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 22:50:23 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 22:50:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18775 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20378 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20372 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19019 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from p51-puffback-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.68.231]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAI26173; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:45:34 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 17 Mar 98 23:58:12 +0000 Subject: Sorry to bring it up again... Message-Id: <350F0E14.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: EricHyland, amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > > Be on the list but realise what the list is all about, its not for > > that attitude and it is mostly for coders so putting down the people > > who make it happen(me) rather than the people who dream about it > > happening (eric) isn't a good idea. > Your the one who started off by insulting me, and I don't just roll over, No. You gave some ideas, I made a joke about the numebr of commands you wanted (as you seemed to ask for alot) you wrote back saying about coders mentality and how designers are the world etc. etc. > and take it I fight back. Just because you think your some kind of > shot coder doesn't give you the right to tyr, and belittle my ideas. I don't think I'm a hot shot coder. You're the one saying how you've designed the best game ever [you know, Wing Commander 5 :) ] And as I've said before my aim was to say that most of your suggestions were not realistic, you admitted yourself that you know nothing about coding so just believe me when I tell you what can and can't be done. Sorry to bring this back but I just found it laying around in my mailbox and I hadn't answered the weird suggestion that I was a hot shot coder coming from the "great dreaming designer god". -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 22:14:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 17 22:14:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25859 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:14:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA22121 for amos-out; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22118 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet11.ozemail.com.au (oznet11.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.118]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21338 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:33:20 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per2-18.space.net.au [203.38.11.236]) by oznet11.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA09105 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:33:08 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <350F2460.4572@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:33:20 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Disk Click Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi all, I`m finally sick and tired of my empty floppy drives clicking away all the time. How do I stop this? I`ve heard there is a file or a fix somewhere... Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 18 12:47:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 18 12:47:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18155 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:47:49 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25060 for amos-out; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25057 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA10491 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA08531; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:44:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:44:46 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: Sorry to bring it up again... To: Alastair Murray cc: EricHyland , amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: <350F0E14.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 17 Mar 1998, Alastair Murray wrote: >>> Be on the list but realise what the list is all about, its not for >>> that attitude and it is mostly for coders so putting down the people >>> who make it happen(me) rather than the people who dream about it >>> happening (eric) isn't a good idea. >> Your the one who started off by insulting me, and I don't just roll over, >No. You gave some ideas, I made a joke about the numebr of commands >you wanted (as you seemed to ask for alot) you wrote back saying about >coders mentality and how designers are the world etc. etc. No no coder boy you aren't getting away with that. Here is that massage with some [ add ins ] ___________________________________________________________________________ >From malcolm.murray@virgin.net Sun Mar 1 20:47:02 1998 Date: 1 Mar 98 19:46:23 +0000 From: Alastair Murray To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: My Amos wish list. > #1 bobs & sprites that can be rotated and scaled like Apple soft vector > graphics. > #2 3D bobs like that mushy raycasting thing. > #3 to be able to load a IFF as a background, or FOREGROUND. > #4 collision detection between 2D, and 3D obj's. Hmmmm. [ I read this as you don't get it, and think it is ridiculous ] > #7 translucent screens, so I can open 3 256 Hi Res screen, so I can draw > background on 1, midground on 2, and foreground on 3. (mem should be the > only limit) > #8 milti screen collision detection system for #7. HMMMMMMM. [ More of the same, but with greater emphasis] > #9 new 3D modeler with point & click coloring (select color from pallet then > click on face,face changes to that color), surface detailing on the faces not > on a grid, surface detailing tools (line,dot,square,circle.), shape modiling > on the shape (pulling she 3D obj to form it), bent face modeling, in side > out function (for working on the inside of the obj), real color shape system > , assign number or colors command( 2,256 ), assign color block command(if a > obj has 4 colors you can get that block of 4 colors from 0 to 253), get > pallet command(load pallet from IFF). > #10 3D map maker > #11 2D map maker > #12 move map commands up, down, right, left, and rotate & scale. > #13 3D obj texture bit maping. > #14 light sourcing command. Ha!! So is there anything you actually want to write yourself? [ Calling me lazy ] How about a command MAKE GAME where you just type in a description of the game (in any language) and it is automatically made? [ A joke. You probably still don't understand that Amos would need to be artificially intelligent to do this, and only a coder would choose typing over talking ] Oh and surely he doesn't actually have the 3D extension source code as it was made independantly in which case half of these commands couldn't be done anyway. -Murray --[SNIP long e-address] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> and take it I fight back. Just because you think your some kind of hot >> shot coder doesn't give you the right to try, and belittle my ideas. >I don't think I'm a hot shot coder. You're the one saying how you've >designed the best game ever [you know, Wing Commander 5 :) ] Their you go again "Wing Commander 5" my game design is far more superior then any thing in the WC# series more like a First Encounters II CD32. >And as I've said before my aim was to say that most of your >suggestions were not realistic, [BRAKE] You could have done that without insulting me, but YOU chose not to. >you admitted yourself that you know >nothing about coding so just believe me when I tell you what can and >can't be done. I wouldn't believe you if you were the last coder on Earth. >Sorry to bring this back but I just found it laying around in my >mailbox and I hadn't answered the weird suggestion that I was a hot >shot coder coming from the "great dreaming designer god". I don't think that's true at all you just thought you could slip one by me. >-Murray "great dreaming designer god". Bring on the sacrificial virgins!!!!!!!! Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 18 21:17:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 18 21:17:26 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04826 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:17:26 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA10161 for amos-out; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10158 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18801 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:59:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19063 invoked from network); 18 Mar 1998 16:59:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-41.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.169) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 18 Mar 1998 16:59:07 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00orh; Wed, 18 Mar 98 11:55:03 GMT Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 11:55:03 GMT Message-Id: <9803181155.AA00org@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: collin@xs4all.nl (Branko Collin) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Textfile parsing Status: O X-Status: On 16 Mar 98 07:44:05 GMT, "Jonas Thorell" wrote: >Okay, see if someone can help me out here. What I want is to take an ordinary >textfile and process in certain ways. What I need to do is to > >1. Determine how many lines of text it is in it. How? >2. Use the above value making a for-loop like > >For a=1 to > grab one line of text and insert it in t$(a) >next > >I've tried with input # and line input # but they seem to want to grab the whole >text in one chunk. I am almost sure that your problem is caused by the fact that AMOS doesn't see lines the way the OS sees them. AmigaOS (as Unix) thinks a line is something terminated by a linefeed. AMOS on the other hand sees lines the MS-DOS way: terminated by a carriage return and then a linefeed (I am not entirely sure that is the correct order, though). I believe AMOS has a way of actually setting what the EOL character sequence should be. I have never used it, though. I am not sure wether this is because the implementation is buggy or because it only works one way (writing?). I have always preferred scanning for lines my self: global count count = 0 name$=fsel$("") open in 1, name$ lf=lof(1) buffer = 1024 repeat if buffer < lf then buffer = lf a$=input$(1,buffer) scan[a$,buffer] until buffer<=0 print "number of lines:"; count procedure count[a$,b] for i=1 to b if mid$(a$,i,1)=chr$(10) then inc count next i end proc Undoubtedly I have omitted a few things or made a few mistakes, but this is roughly how it works. -- branko collin -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 18 14:01:09 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 18 14:01:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02030 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:01:07 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA25509 for amos-out; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25506 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:38:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.clara.net (hermes.clara.net [195.8.69.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18283 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from nsl (du-1143.claranet.co.uk [195.8.77.108]) by hermes.clara.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26724 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:38:30 GMT Message-ID: <004901bd526a$b4149260$6c4d08c3@nsl> From: "Nathan Reynolds" To: "AMOS List" Subject: Re: Re: Re[3]: Sorting problems Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:38:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: >Don't use something like this: it repeats 128^2 times the same operations, >even if the data are already sorted. >You can better think about a loop with a flag: if the datas are sorted, >exit from the loop. Yeah, sorry about that. I'm not great with sorting algorithms. I've been told that a flag would be a good idea, but I'm not sure how to implement it. How about an updated algorithm? It'd come in handy to me and probably a load of others. (or I might be the only one who can't figure out how to sort properly :( ) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 18 12:54:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 18 12:54:17 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29451 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:54:17 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25077 for amos-out; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25074 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07035 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:59:38 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA114 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:02:52 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0000AC5F; Wed, 18 Mar 98 02:57:10 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:22:03 -0700 Message-ID: <0000AC5F.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re[3]: Sorting problem To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: The program that I have written is a voice librarian for one of my synthesizers. Each file, which I load into memory for manipulation, contains a header and a 256k block of data for each voice, of which there are 128. There is also some other data at the end which I haven't figured out yet but this has not bearing on what I want to achieve. I will upload the source code to the web for you to have a look at tomorrow. In the meantime, there is a pc version of this program available at http://home1.gte.net/jhoyle/w-synth/Files.html and it is titled W7 Librarian for Windows V1.01 My program is based on this utility. Thanks for you interest and help. Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 19 01:59:26 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 19 01:59:26 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA28804 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:59:25 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26875 for amos-out; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:56:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26868 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10391 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14745 invoked from network); 18 Mar 1998 21:56:26 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 18 Mar 1998 21:56:26 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.54]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB37218 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:56:23 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:52:19 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Wow !! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Yo MUSH !!! You're realy famus now, you've been mentioned in the danish amiga-magazine this month. That normaly only comes to celebreties like myselve... ;-)) Nah, allright, enough joking. Seriously the new development of AMOS Pro is refered in the news-section in the issue coming out tomorow (I always have a head-start living next to the publisher). And people that are interested is directed to your web-page for further information.. Just thought you'd like to know... Welcome among the famus...... -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And on the seventh day, He exited from append mode. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 19 10:37:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 19 10:37:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14755 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:37:56 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA10938 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 04:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10935 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 04:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04449 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 04:27:16 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA115 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:31:11 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0000B521; Thu, 19 Mar 98 02:23:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:16:09 -0700 Message-ID: <0000B521.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: *** Sorting Problem *** To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: I have uploaded the AMOS source of my program to http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/wlib.htm It requires GUI Extension V1.62+ to run and once it is running you will get a better picture of what I need from the sorting routine. I have also included some voice banks to look at. To see what I mean, choose the first voice in the destination bank and view the voice properties. Make a note of the name and settings and close the window. Choose Sort by Name from the menu and you will see that the sort is done and the listview updated. Now choose the first voice in the destination bank again and view the properties. You will see that everything is the same as before except the name has changed and this is down to the sort. Any help you could give me on this would be much appreciated. While I'm here, if someone could get me a screenshot of the main screen and one of the voice properties window open. Thanks. I'm gonna push my luck with this one, while in the voice properties window, if I try to rename a voice and press enter, my system crashes. Can you also try that and see what happens. If any of you GUI experts can shed any light on that I would be eternally grateful. That's it I promise you......Thanks again. Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 01:36:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 01:36:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10302 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:36:20 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02767 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:26:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02764 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:26:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from star.flashnet.it (star.flashnet.it [194.247.160.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26995 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip054.pool-04.flashnet.it (Berionne@ip054.pool-04.flashnet.it [194.247.161.54]) by star.flashnet.it (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA05432 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:25:54 +0100 Date: 18 Mar 98 23:08:45 +0100 From: "Michele Berionne" Subject: Re: Sorting problems To: "Nathan Reynolds" In-Reply-To: <004901bd526a$b4149260$6c4d08c3@nsl> Message-ID: <816.381T2299T13885424@flashnet.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Hello! > Yeah, sorry about that. I'm not great with sorting algorithms. I've been > told that a flag would be a good idea, but I'm not sure how to implement > it. How about an updated algorithm? A sorting algorithm with a flag is done in this way. Repeat FLAG=False For T=1 to N If A(T)>A(T+1) Swap A(T),A(T+1) FLAG=True End If Next Until Not FLAG ...well, actually I have no time now to see if I did stupid mistakes. Moreover you can implement the check (>) and the swap routine as you need them. Bye berionne@flashnet.it >>Flagger<< +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 02:15:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 02:15:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA01796 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:15:03 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29681 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29678 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05045 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:24:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2004235; 19 Mar 98 23:17 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Amos List Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:13:49 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: Re[4]: Sorting problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On Tuesday 17-Mar-98 at 10:04:01, a nutter named Jens Vang Petersen had wet pants when they typed about `Re[4]: Sorting problems'. >Grab the JVP-NoKids V1.01 extension from my homepage and stuff it in slot 25 >(If you use Amos Pro). It holds a very fast binary string-sorter, that also >has the ability to remap the sort, like making NoCase/Case sort or doing it >reverse. Just up to you.. Average sorting speed for that command is about >4000 strings/sec on a 030/50 Cpu... The extension is freeware :) Hi Jens, I thought this Ext sounded neat, so I decided to go and look at your pages, but was unable to get anywhere! I'm using the latest version of IBrowse and when i clicked on your Amos Ext, the whole page was not readable! The frames were just not displayed properly! :( I'm not sure if it's a design fault in your pages or a fault with IBrowse, but any other pages with frames has been fine! Has anyone else had probs with Jens' home pages viewed via IBrowse? Anyway, please could you send me a complete list of all Ext on your pages? I'm looking for some new ones to mess about with ya see :) Please do me a favour and tell me if anyone else has had probs with your pages to. Cheers. Andy Gibson andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 03:44:32 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 03:44:31 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17373 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:44:31 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29568 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29565 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA08133 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:18:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id af2004235; 19 Mar 98 23:17 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Amos List Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:42:36 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <664.381T895T8483212@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: Ooops! Textfile parsing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On Wednesday 18-Mar-98 at 13:08:17, a nutter named Jonas Thorell had wet pants when they typed about `Re: Textfile parsing'. >Thanks for the example. It doesn't quite work but I'll see if I can work out >what's going on. When I enter s:startup-sequence as input-file I just get the >first line of it for some reason. Ooops! I made a slight error in the code. Well, I was typing it up as an example. Anyway, here is what it should be like. Hope this helps... ' ' *************************************** ' ' Load and process a text file easily :) ' bY Andy Gibson ' ' I hope this helps you out Jonas.... ' Sorry about the last one! This one's ' fine though :-) ' ' *************************************** ' ' Depending on the size of your file, you may need to UP this value... Set Buffer 40 ' ' LINES must be global here... Global TXT$,LINES ' ' Enter your text file's full path here... Proc _LOAD_TXT["hd2:text/Letter.asc"] ' ' ' Now we can use a Dim with the correct amount of lines to hold ' each line in there... Dim TXT$(LINES) Global TXT$() ' ' Simply sort the lines into the Global Dim here... Proc _SORT_FILE ' ' ' Now you can easily read any line of the text held in the array ' TXT$(). ' ' eg. Print first 10 lines of text file... For _DISPLAY=0 To 10 Print TXT$(_DISPLAY) Next _DISPLAY Edit ' ' ' ' Procedure are here... ' Procedure _LOAD_TXT[TXT$] ' ' This Proc will work out how many lines are in your file. ' Checks for normal Chr$(10) RETURN code. You could alter ' it to Chr$(13) for PC text files if need be.... ' ' Amcaf only.... (no need to use Open in etc...) ' Dload TXT$,17 ' ' ' Amos normal way... Open In 1,TXT$ L=Lof(1) : Close 1 Reserve As Data 7,L Bload TXT$,7 ' ' ' Read Lines... POS=Start(7) : LINES=0 ' Do Exit If POS>=Bank End(7) LINE=Hunt(POS To Bank End(7),Chr$(10)) ' ' Wanna see the text... ' A$=Peek$(POS,POS-LINE,Chr$(10)) ' Print A$ ' Exit If LINE=Bank End(7) or LINE=0 POS=LINE+1 Inc LINES Loop ' ' One other point to note, the Bank End command is not an normal ' Amos Pro one! And I can't remember which Ext I have installed ' which uses it! If this code doesn't funtion properly in your ' interpreter, simply change the Bank End commands to summat ' more suitable like Start(bnk)+start(bnk) to Length(bnk) ' End Proc Procedure _SORT_FILE ' ' Hold each line of text in the array...easy or what? ' POS=Start(7) ' For I=0 To LINES A$=Peek$(POS,Bank End(7),Chr$(10)) If A$>"" TXT$(I)=Peek$(POS,Bank End(7),Chr$(10)) Add POS,Len(TXT$(I))+1 Else Inc POS End If Next I ' ' No more need to hold the file in a mem bank, so erase it... ' Erase 7 ' End Proc ' Once again, sorry for the slight mix-up with the last one sent! If you need further help, feel free to email me. I'll do my best. Tarra. Andy Gibson -- ***************************************************************** *_______/\_____/\_______/\_____/\ * *\ /\ ___/\ /\ ___/ Andy Gibson <---------------- * * \_/\ / /\/| _ \_/\ / \/ \ ----------> aka SKiDZ/Area 51 * * / _/ / / |_| // _/ / __\ \ * * \// / \___ / \// / /__ / andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk * * /_/ \_/ /_/ \_/ <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> * * pRODUCTiONS 9T8 * ***************************************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 19 15:22:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 19 15:22:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02882 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:22:52 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11361 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11358 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [195.8.135.242]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19854 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr00.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.200]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15681 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:03:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-08-2-8.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.139.105]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA02434 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:03:29 +0100 (CET) From: Palle Anker Larsen Reply-To: Palle Anker Larsen To: Amos-List Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:58:54 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Subject: Re: Wow !! Not a god article. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Den 18-Mar-98 skrev Jens Vang Petersen: Hi Jens. JVP> Yo MUSH !!! JVP> JVP> You're realy famus now, you've been mentioned in the danish amiga-magazine JVP> this month. That normaly only comes to celebreties like myselve... ;-)) JVP> JVP> Nah, allright, enough joking. Seriously the new development of AMOS Pro is JVP> refered in the news-section in the issue coming out tomorow (I always have JVP> a head-start living next to the publisher). And people that are interested JVP> is directed to your web-page for further information.. Just thought you'd JVP> like to know... JVP> JVP> Welcome among the famus...... Year, but it's a pitty that MUSH get's all the credits, after all Pietro G. is the optainer of the code and he's the head coder, but he's not even mentioned in the article. Pietro is after all the one who has spend the time in saving the source. That's not very professionel, not to give credit to the real wizard. I was pretty confused about the article, what it was reffering to, becaurse it was not clear enough, besides they mentioned that it would compile to ppc and all other machines, and that is a bit of shoting little birds whith BIG cannons, they should wait an see what it comes to, and they should make a better reserach on the project before starting rumors. Yes there was an internet adr. [MUSH's] but not all people has internet access. And last they should credit the right person, year I know MUSH is in on the project but he not the main mann. [sorry MUSH this has nothing to do with you it's a danish thing ;)] PS. Excuse my very VERY poor english hope you all could understand it afterall. -- Best Wishes Palle. Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 19 13:49:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 19 13:49:23 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11997 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:49:23 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11394 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:29:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11391 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:29:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.13]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01098 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:29:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.201]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11749 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:28:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-04-2-7.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.138.104]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA07182 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:28:27 +0100 (CET) From: Palle Anker Larsen Reply-To: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk To: Amos-List Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:23:57 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Subject: Article in danish magasine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hi MUSH. The articel mentioned things about: Andrew Kellett has released a beta to some developpers, and in a few month the final should be on the street's !?!?! The program can compile diffrent sources to other platforms, among othes PPC!?!?!? The program will be supporting GFX cards, AHI soundsystem, Datatypes, and a lot of other things!?!? MUSH what the hell are you programming??? and when will it be finished ;) that sounds like a replacemen of Amos, that not nice done to Pietro. I know it's the danish computer magasine that is up in the wrong alley, but I had to ask you. This letter is not sendt as an abuse to you MUSH, just to give a hint about what the article is about. Is the article wrong or have i missed some important news??? -- Best Wishes Palle. A fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block of marble; then you chip away everything that doesn't look like an elephant. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 01:53:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 01:53:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26339 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:53:49 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08969 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08962 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA16051 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:09:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from goater.demon.co.uk ([194.222.204.21]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2002458; 19 Mar 98 18:38 GMT From: Cameron Goater Organization: Camelot Date: 19 Mar 98 18:32:14 +0000 Subject: EXTENSION problem...!!! HELP!!! Message-Id: <351164AD.MD-0.196.cameron@goater.demon.co.uk> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: Hiya all AMIGANS, I own AMOS Professional V 1.00 and am trying to add new extensions to it as there are many advantages to having more commands to play around with, I recently got a couple of extensions and I followed the instructions exactly I loaded amos-pro went into set interpreter, loaded the default config then went into set load extensions, making sure I had put the .Lib file in the APSystem directory then I save the config and exit. But when I try to re-load AMOSPro the following message appears on my screen. Bad extension file: use default interpreter configuration Has anyone else had this problem or a similar one could it be the version of AMOSPro that is causing this. At the moment I have only the 4 original extensions loaded. I would welcome any idea's or a solution to this problem :) Thankyou Cameron :) ----------------- (LONG LIVE THE AMIGA) ----------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 01:53:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 01:53:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13123 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:53:57 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15127 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15124 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29289 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29116 invoked from network); 19 Mar 1998 20:16:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.149) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 19 Mar 1998 20:16:13 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Jens Vang Petersen CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:04:20 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Wow !! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Yo MUSH !!! hi. im still here, im awaiting bits for my tower conversion, mainly a keyboard adaptor. i dismantled my tower to anser these mails. > You're realy famus now, you've been mentioned in the danish amiga-magazine > this month. That normaly only comes to celebreties like myselve... ;-)) cool! being big-headed isnt a good idea, hehe. some people on the list dont like it when that happens. > Nah, allright, enough joking. Seriously the new development of AMOS Pro is > refered in the news-section in the issue coming out tomorow (I always have > a head-start living next to the publisher). And people that are interested > is directed to your web-page for further information.. Just thought you'd > like to know... > Welcome among the famus...... nice! Ill have to try and make it look a bit more presentable. i had wondered why i was getting a few more hits. Any chance of a look at the original article? Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 02:56:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 02:56:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25249 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:56:03 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15137 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15134 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21882 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29147 invoked from network); 19 Mar 1998 20:16:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.149) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 19 Mar 1998 20:16:17 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Palle Anker Larsen CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:08:06 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re[2]: Wow !! Not a god article. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Year, but it's a pitty that MUSH get's all the credits, after all Pietro G. is > the > optainer of the code and he's the head coder, but he's not even mentioned in > the article. > Pietro is after all the one who has spend the time in saving the source. > That's not very professionel, not to give credit to the real wizard. The only way they could have got the information in the first place is from the MPD reports which go out, and even get on all the news sites (except cucug as apparantly they dont think any news I do on the amiga is "good" enough for them). I always credit pietro as the coder, ill just be doing completely new manuals andstuff like that. > I was pretty confused about the article, what it was reffering to, becaurse it > was not > clear enough, besides they mentioned that it would compile to ppc and all > other machines, > and that is a bit of shoting little birds whith BIG cannons, they should wait > an see > what it comes to, and they should make a better reserach on the project before > starting > rumors. if you read the report, you would have seen that they were "possibilities" and not definates in the new version. > Yes there was an internet adr. [MUSH's] but not all people has internet > access. > And last they should credit the right person, year I know MUSH is in on the > project but > he not the main mann. pietro is the main man, but when it comes to people wanting code and programs, im the one everyone comes too. > [sorry MUSH this has nothing to do with you it's a danish thing ;)] no worry's > PS. Excuse my very VERY poor english hope you all could understand it > afterall. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 02:40:45 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 02:40:45 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26157 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:40:45 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15132 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15129 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:16:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21911 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:16:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29182 invoked from network); 19 Mar 1998 20:16:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.149) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 19 Mar 1998 20:16:20 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Palle Anker Larsen CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:11:55 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: Article in danish magasine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Hi MUSH. > The articel mentioned things about: > Andrew Kellett has released a beta to some developpers, > and in a few month the final should be on the street's !?!?! 1) No beta's are out. The only beta i have is the GUI Extension. I dunno where they got that from. > The program can compile diffrent sources to other platforms, > among othes PPC!?!?!? that was only speculation > The program will be supporting GFX cards, AHI soundsystem, > Datatypes, and a lot of other things!?!? thats the FD extension, if memory serves me correctly. Best get the danes an oxford english, hehe > MUSH what the hell are you programming??? and when will it be finished ;) > that sounds like a replacemen of Amos, that not nice done to Pietro. I have absolutelty no idea where tthey got allthis gobble from. I only release stuff through the MPD reports and everyone should have that somewhere. > I know it's the danish computer magasine that is up in the wrong alley, but I > had to ask you. =) > This letter is not sendt as an abuse to you MUSH, just to give a hint about > what the article is about. sounds like a load of bollocks to me > Is the article wrong or have i missed some important news??? its VERY wrong Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 02:15:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 02:15:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA17617 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:15:56 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA22830 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:00:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22827 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:00:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20650 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6259 invoked from network); 19 Mar 1998 22:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.227) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 19 Mar 1998 22:01:29 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: Jens Vang Petersen , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:59:39 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re[3]: Wow !! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > Kan du lase det ??? (You can read danish ???) > I might get time to type it up tomorow (English prefered, right ?) yup! > Nah, actualy I have to agree with Palle that the article is misleading > and they nicly avoid to mention the real author... > Anyway, I DON'T like when some people don't get the credit they deserve, > but at least AMOS is mentioned and that is sure a long time ago.... Yeah, they should have read up more on the subject before releasing that information. Still. i'll inform those who ask on my page. Mush -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library * World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at quality prices. See homepage for links. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 03:05:54 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 03:05:53 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22004 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:05:53 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26960 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26957 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.13]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22777 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:40:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.201]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA21280; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:37:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-04-1-18.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.138.83]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA02812; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:37:25 +0100 (CET) From: Palle Anker Larsen Reply-To: Palle Anker Larsen To: Andy Kellett CC: Amos-List Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:10:32 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Subject: Re[2]: Article in danish magasine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Den 19-Mar-98 skrev Andy Kellett: Hi MUSH. AK> > Andrew Kellett has released a beta to some developpers, AK> > and in a few month the final should be on the street's !?!?! AK> AK> 1) No beta's are out. The only beta i have is the GUI Extension. I dunno AK> where they got that from. It's a very little magasine, and they have the habbit of not researching very well, but It's still a very new magasine so they have to learn by doing ;). AK> AK> > The program can compile diffrent sources to other platforms, AK> > among othes PPC!?!?!? AK> AK> that was only speculation Yes, but it went over there heads ;) AK> AK> > The program will be supporting GFX cards, AHI soundsystem, AK> > Datatypes, and a lot of other things!?!? AK> AK> thats the FD extension, if memory serves me correctly. That one, is *GREAT*, and your support site for that Extension is *A* *MUST* MUSH ;), Great work, and I'll bet it has been a BIG job finding all those archives. AK> Best get the danes an oxford english, hehe Yes, I would like to have one my self ;), but then again, hopefully I will learn by doing, as well as those at the magasine ;) AK> AK> > MUSH what the hell are you programming??? and when will it be finished ;) AK> > that sounds like a replacemen of Amos, that not nice done to Pietro. AK> AK> I have absolutelty no idea where tthey got allthis gobble from. I only AK> release stuff through the MPD reports and everyone should have that AK> somewhere. Some people dont read and understand, they see and guess. AK> > This letter is not sendt as an abuse to you MUSH, just to give a hint AK> about AK> > what the article is about. AK> AK> sounds like a load of bollocks to me God, then it's not me that got everything wrong ;). AK> AK> > Is the article wrong or have i missed some important news??? AK> AK> its VERY wrong Ok, thanks for your answer, now I'll go back to rest mode ;). -- Best Wishes Palle. Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice. -- James P. Hogan From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 04:01:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 04:01:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15225 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 04:01:37 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26973 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26970 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.13]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12547 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.201]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA21291; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:37:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-04-1-18.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.138.83]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA02816; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:37:27 +0100 (CET) From: Palle Anker Larsen Reply-To: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk To: Andy Kellett , Palle Anker Larsen CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:24:49 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Subject: Re[3]: Wow !! Not a god article. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Den 19-Mar-98 skrev Andy Kellett: Hi Andy. AK> AK> > Year, but it's a pitty that MUSH get's all the credits, after all Pietro AK> G. is AK> > the AK> > optainer of the code and he's the head coder, but he's not even mentioned AK> in AK> > the article. AK> AK> > Pietro is after all the one who has spend the time in saving the source. AK> AK> > That's not very professionel, not to give credit to the real wizard. AK> AK> The only way they could have got the information in the first place is from AK> the MPD reports which go out, and even get on all the news sites (except AK> cucug as apparantly they dont think any news I do on the amiga is "good" AK> enough for them). I always credit pietro as the coder, ill just be doing AK> completely new manuals andstuff like that. Yes I know, but I ment the magasine was unprofessionel. No doubt, you have done some great work and is still doing a great job. Without you and Pietro, where has Amos been today, and would it ever rise again, Your Inetsite is a MUST. AK> > what it comes to, and they should make a better reserach on the project AK> > before AK> > starting AK> > rumors. AK> AK> if you read the report, you would have seen that they were "possibilities" AK> and not definates in the new version. I know, but the danish magasine was not aware of that. AK> AK> > Yes there was an internet adr. [MUSH's] but not all people has internet AK> > access. AK> AK> > And last they should credit the right person, year I know MUSH is in on AK> the AK> > project but AK> > he not the main mann. AK> AK> pietro is the main man, but when it comes to people wanting code and AK> programs, im the one everyone comes too. Yes I know, I has been at your site about 1.000.000 times, and allmost found some usefull things every time ;). AK> AK> > [sorry MUSH this has nothing to do with you it's a danish thing ;)] AK> AK> no worry's Phewwwwwwww ;) -- Best Wishes Palle. A fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block of marble; then you chip away everything that doesn't look like an elephant. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 02:26:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 02:26:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20728 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:26:01 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA20828 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20821 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA21627 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:30:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11050 invoked from network); 19 Mar 1998 21:30:51 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 19 Mar 1998 21:30:51 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.47]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA24362; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:30:49 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Andy Kellett , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:29:09 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: Wow !! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id QAA20823 Status: O X-Status: On 19-Mar-98, Andy Kellett smashed the keyboard with: > nice! Ill have to try and make it look a bit more presentable. i had > wondered why i was getting a few more hits. Any chance of a look at the > original article? Kan du læse det ??? (You can read danish ???) I might get time to type it up tomorow (English prefered, right ?) Nah, actualy I have to agree with Palle that the article is misleading and they nicly avoid to mention the real author... Anyway, I DON'T like when some people don't get the credit they deserve, but at least AMOS is mentioned and that is sure a long time ago.... -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ fortune: No such file or directory ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 04:37:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 04:37:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA23722 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 04:37:22 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04885 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04882 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24790 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:32:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab1028958; 20 Mar 98 2:03 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003t2; Fri, 20 Mar 98 02:02:37 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 02:02:37 GMT Message-Id: <9803200202.AA003sx@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <26058f3b.u10t12e.1486a-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Palle Anker Larsen ) (at Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:23:57 +0200) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Article in danish magasine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id VAA04883 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Palle, > Hi MUSH. > The articel mentioned things about: > Andrew Kellett has released a beta to some developpers, > and in a few month the final should be on the street's !?!?! !! > The program can compile diffrent sources to other platforms, > among othes PPC!?!?!? Ummm... > The program will be supporting GFX cards, AHI soundsystem, > Datatypes, and a lot of other things!?!? Ah. > MUSH what the hell are you programming??? and when will it be finished ;) > that sounds like a replacemen of Amos, that not nice done to Pietro. > I know it's the danish computer magasine that is up in the wrong alley, but I > had to ask you. > This letter is not sendt as an abuse to you MUSH, just to give a hint about > what the article is about. > Is the article wrong or have i missed some important news??? The article is not correct. It has a lot of correct info acording to your message, but it's all about different things. "developers" have a beta of a certain AGA extension, In a few months, the FD extension will be on the streets (=magazine delay time?) Certain extension libraries (=my 3d one) MAY be able to have a PPC version GFX cards, yes, the GUI extension (Pietro) should work on them, so the new amos should as well, eventually. Discussion on the list was to AHI and datatypes. ie, we want them. It isn't wrong as such, more like just miss-informed. I think we need a PROPER press release, detailing ALL the amos projects under way. Misinformation is all around us.. Oh yeah, we also need to finish off Cap'n Bubba. It's VERY close to completion. _ _ _ _ _ _ | "Gump was a big celebrity |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | He told JFK that he really had to pee" |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | - Wierd Al Yankovic. | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 12:41:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 12:41:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25874 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:41:19 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10786 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10783 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from asdo.se (gateway.asdo.se [194.218.132.33]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA13378 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:30:27 -0500 (EST) From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Received: from asdogate.asdo.se ([194.132.65.82]) by gateway.asdo.se with ESMTP id <28691>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:29:08 +0100 Received: by asdogate.asdo.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:28:53 +0100 Message-ID: <0C16986DE489D111860D00A024A419070E22CA@G02_STHLEX.asdo.se> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: fd.files Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:29:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Short request: Could someone please send me the fd-files for KS3.0? Take care Magnus ====================================================================== Eat a live toad for breakfast, and nothing worse will happen that day. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 18:05:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 18:05:44 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16778 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:05:43 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14549 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14542 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco4-182.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.182]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16271 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp18-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.67]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA21283 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:53:34 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:23:49 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <351164AD.MD-0.196.cameron@goater.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: EXTENSION problem...!!! HELP!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 19-Mar-98, Cameron Goater wrote: > I own AMOS Professional V 1.00 > Bad extension file: use default interpreter configuration The extensions probably require AP2 to work. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 19:27:47 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 19:27:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01453 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:27:46 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14580 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14572 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco4-182.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.182]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01316 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp18-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.67]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA21308 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:54:17 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:31:59 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <26058f3b.u10t12e.1486a-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: CBATNAM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 19-Mar-98, Keith Hill wrote: > >Oh yeah, we also need to finish off Cap'n Bubba. It's VERY close to >completion. > No kidding. My SCSI card is ordered. My SCSI card is paid for. It is just not here yet. There is an Amiga show in Toronto in May. I want CBATNAM to be done by that time! I'm glad someone still remembers the Cap'n. We still need all the between level pics and the intro anim and the music. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 10:42:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 10:42:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11983 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:42:10 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA10203 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10200 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:53:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA16328 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:53:03 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.82]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA128 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:56:52 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp1.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 000298AD; Fri, 20 Mar 98 01:51:10 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:47:51 -0700 Message-ID: <000298AD.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re: EXTENSION problem...!!! HELP!!! To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Try rebooting your Amiga and not just AMOS Pro. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: EXTENSION problem...!!! HELP!!! Author: Cameron Goater at Internet Date: 19/03/98 18:32 Hiya all AMIGANS, I own AMOS Professional V 1.00 and am trying to add new extensions to it as there are many advantages to having more commands to play around with, I recently got a couple of extensions and I followed the instructions exactly I loaded amos-pro went into set interpreter, loaded the default config then went into set load extensions, making sure I had put the .Lib file in the APSystem directory then I save the config and exit. But when I try to re-load AMOSPro the following message appears on my screen. Bad extension file: use default interpreter configuration Has anyone else had this problem or a similar one could it be the version of AMOSPro that is causing this. At the moment I have only the 4 original extensions loaded. I would welcome any idea's or a solution to this problem :) Thankyou Cameron :) ----------------- (LONG LIVE THE AMIGA) ----------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 02:21:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 02:21:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16855 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:21:10 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10000 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09994 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:17:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29223 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14640 invoked from network); 20 Mar 1998 19:17:28 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 20 Mar 1998 19:17:28 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.75]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB27038; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:17:26 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Andy Gibson , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:30:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: JVP homepages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 19-Mar-98, Andy Gibson smashed the keyboard with: > I thought this Ext sounded neat, so I decided to go and look at your > pages, but was unable to get anywhere! > > I'm using the latest version of IBrowse and when i clicked on your > Amos Ext, the whole page was not readable! > > The frames were just not displayed properly! :( > > I'm not sure if it's a design fault in your pages or a fault with > IBrowse, but any other pages with frames has been fine! It's proberly a fault in IBrowse as I've seen my pages on netscape and they work there, funny thing though that on my IBrowse the pages look nice enough.... (Something with frames in frames..).. Anyway I've changed the pages (actualy I uploaded the new ones before reading your letter) and the new set has a more clean frameset on them, so it should work better (I hope)... > Anyway, please could you send me a complete list of all Ext on your > pages? I'm looking for some new ones to mess about with ya see :) I'm just about to post one to the list, just to annoy anyone so much that they might give me some new information :)) > Please do me a favour and tell me if anyone else has had probs with > your pages to. Mush had some, but he never told me where it went wrong. Anyway I hope the new set of pages fixes the problems.. -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Swap read error. You lose your mind. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 02:44:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 02:44:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03924 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:44:20 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA09995 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09988 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12874 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14657 invoked from network); 20 Mar 1998 19:17:32 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 20 Mar 1998 19:17:32 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.75]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAC27038 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:17:29 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:42:47 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Extensionlists.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, Everyone.. !! EXTENSION-HATERS MIGHT WANT TO STOP HERE !! Ok, nice that you're still reading :-) I've changed the extensionlist on my pages, so they should now work with any frame-supporting browser (Yeah, I hope so....) One of the reasons for me not updating the list in quite some time is that I wanted an easier way to update them with indexes and all, so finaly I had to write a program to do so.. Anyway please drop by and tell me what you think of the new lay-out... I know that I'll proberly be flamed big time after this, becourse I've taken the chance to 'rate' the extensions, and you'll proberly disagree. I've made 3 ratings of each, Games, Demos and Utilities. A good extension for games might be useless for Utilities. Please send comments on the ratings if you don't like what I've said... Here's the latest list of extensions I have, I'm posting it in the hope that those who don't go to my page will still send me some updates on extensions I know nothing about :)... REMEMBER: EXTENSIONS NOT LISTED IS NOT KNOWN TO ME, please inform me... --------------------------------------------------------------- Slot: Extension: TC: PRO: FLGS: 01 Music 1.54 2.00 01 Enhanced Music (EME) 3.00 3.00 D 02 Compactor 1.20 2.00 03 Requester 1.41 2.00 04 Voodoo-3D 1.00 1.02 05 Compiler 1.36 2.00 06 Serial 1.20 N/A 06 IO_Devices N/A 2.00 06 IO_DevicesJ N/A 2.1J D 07 TOME 4.24 4.24+ S 08 CTEXT 1.32 N/A 08 AMCAF N/A 1.50b S 09 Range / Shuffle 2.9 2.9 S 10 Dump 1.00 1.00 D 10 Ercole 1.7 1.7 D 10 LDOS 2.6 1.10 D 11 Lserial 2.20 1.00 D 12 Turbo 1.9 1.9 D 12 Turbo Plus 2.00 2.00 13 PowerBobs N/A 1.00 D 14 The Game Extension N/A 0.4b 15 D-SAM 1.01 N/A 15 Delta N/A 1.4 D 15 DOOM Music (DME) N/A 2.00 D 16 Easylife 1.44 1.10 D 17 Sticks 1.00 N/A 17 Falcon N/A -??- 17 Locale N/A 0.26 D 17 MakeLib N/A 1.2 D 18 CRAFT 1.00 1.00 18 JD-Int N/A 1.3 D 19 MusicCraft 1.00 1.00 19 JD-K3 N/A 1.1 D 20 Stars 2.23b 2.23b D 20 JD-COLOUR N/A 2.00 D 20 OS DevKit N/A 1.59 20 THX N/A 0.6 21 Opal -??- N/A D 21 JD-PRT N/A 2.00 D 22 JD N/A 5.90 D 22 Jotre N/A -??- 22 Second-Hand Extension N/A 0.01d6 23 Colours N/A 1.00 D 23 JADE N/A -??- 23 MISC N/A -??- D 23 Tools N/A 1.01 D 24 Diagnostics -??- N/A 24 GUI N/A 1.62 D 24 SLN N/A 2.00 D 25 Intuition 1.00 1.00 D 25 P61 N/A 1.2 S 25 TFT N/A 0.6 D 25 JVP-NoKids N/A 1.01 D --------------------------------------------------------------- FLGS: D=Download availeble, S=Suportsite-link --------------------------------------------------------------- Further informations on the extensions listed is online at http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ --------------------------------------------------------------- This Extensionlist compiled: 20. Marts 1998 (C) Jens Vang Petersen (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) --------------------------------------------------------------- -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You never finish a program, you just stop working on it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 01:56:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 01:56:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA11301 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:56:14 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10005 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10002 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00525 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7597 invoked from network); 20 Mar 1998 19:17:37 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 20 Mar 1998 19:17:37 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.75]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAE27038 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:17:36 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:59:50 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: AMOS vs. QBasic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, Question: If I get a QBasic listing in ASCII from a PC (Yack), how much work should I expect to get it running in AMOS Pro ??? How big is the diffrence on the two ?? -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Avoid temporary variables and strange women. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 06:50:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 20 06:50:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05867 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:50:11 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA07045 for amos-out; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07042 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from HYDRA.ecc.tased.edu.au (hydra.ecc.tased.edu.au [147.41.64.70]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03040 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ss1.newtown.tased.edu.au (147.41.162.36) by ecc.tased.edu.au (PMDF V5.0-3 #7406) id <01IUW7T64V5S9EH0DB@ecc.tased.edu.au> for amos-list@access.digex.net; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:43:07 +1000 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:59:49 -0500 From: "James Brown (Ender/Gcc)" Subject: Re: Article in danish magasine To: amos-list@access.digex.net Reply-to: ender@vision.net.au Message-id: <3512D8C5.3794@vision.net.au> Organization: Gcc International MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <9803200202.AA003sx@mirex.demon.co.UK> Status: O X-Status: I'll tell you what, I like the danish idea of the new version better :) I'm just lucky I'm not helping to code it if its supposed to live up to those type of expectations :) (Yes, this IS a joke, lets not start another designer/coder argument!) > > > Oh yeah, we also need to finish off Cap'n Bubba. It's VERY close to >completion. > Your right. The last news I heard was when Giark was doing something to his Amiga and we were waiting for that. Speaking of which, I still havn't seen/recieved/heard the music for the Bonus stage! Whats happening now? James Brown -- Ender/Gcc (At school on the IBM.. Ugh.) -- Ender@vision.net.au From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 02:07:35 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 02:07:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07459 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:07:35 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA22565 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:10:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22562 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.globalserve.net (smtp1.globalserve.net [209.90.144.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11249 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from globalserve.net (@dialin27.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.27]) by smtp1.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA09841 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:11:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199803202211.RAA09841@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:10:50 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: AMOS List Subject: MUD client Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Well, I've finally made progress with my MUD client, of course there is still problems... First, is there any way to make the gui stretch according to the window size? Second, for some reason I can NEVER send anything, I type something into my string thingy, then I GUI READ it out. Then I use this (assuming I've placed the gui read into temp$)(Also, E$ contains this "chr$(10)+chr$(13)"): _SENDLINE=tcp send$(1,TEMP$+E$) Do I need to check this afterwords or something? why would this not get received by what I'm connecting to? Have I screwed up with the end characters? Am I asking to many questions? :) Third, What would be the fastest or most efficient way to filter out the chr$(10) and chr$(13) characters from incoming data and force the program to go to the next line? Fourth, How would I make it so I can make the program detect if the TCP stack exists? I tried a really lame thing that checked if TCP: existed, but that didn't work. Fifth (I know... alot of questions), how would I make my program respond when the connection is refused or closed on the other end? Sixth, ha ha... kidding, no more... :) ---------- Just for those who might actually give a damn, I wasn't receiving correctly because I forgot to do the 'Tcp Code' check for the amount of bytes received, so I had been trying to place data that didn't exist into a variable, *sigh*. -Kaotic aka Horrid (on a MUD *MORT*) aka Delita (on a MUD *IMM*) aka Ryan Watson :) PS. Methinks I'm a wee bit hyper......... ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic -*Under Reconstruction*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress... I really should start accomplishing more geez... ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 03:50:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 03:50:59 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04687 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 03:50:59 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA27256 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27253 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet14.ozemail.com.au (oznet14.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.120]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29032 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:01:05 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per1-76.space.net.au [203.38.10.178]) by oznet14.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA22219 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:01:00 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <35131153.20A4@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:01:07 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: AMOS in this Stars Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hey crew, I was checking out the Hubble telescope pages and I found this... http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/messier/xtra/ngc/n2976.html ...the images were produced using Amigas!!!! Check it out :) Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 04:52:09 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 04:52:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11985 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 04:52:08 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28071 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28068 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA05453 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:00:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab1000921; 21 Mar 98 1:57 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003tv; Sat, 21 Mar 98 01:56:44 GMT Date: Sat, 21 Mar 98 01:56:44 GMT Message-Id: <9803210156.AA003tq@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <2606df5a.u10t12e.62e16-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Jens Vang Petersen ) (at Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:59:50 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: top_cat@post8.tele.dk Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: AMOS vs. QBasic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id VAA28069 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Jens, > Hello, > Question: > If I get a QBasic listing in ASCII from a PC (Yack), how much work should I > expect to get it running in AMOS Pro ??? Urk. > How big is the diffrence on the two ?? Yike. Hokey, if you wanna convert qbasic, you really wanna use hisoft basic on the amiga, and not amos. The differences are manageable, depending on the size of the listing. Good luck, you'll need it. > Avoid temporary variables and strange women. Hmm... _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "A giant souflee is about to consume The |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | City, we need your cannon." - The Tick | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 07:39:33 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 07:39:33 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26295 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 07:39:32 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00158 for amos-out; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00148 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA06215 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA18958; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:01:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:01:50 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Sender: Eric Hyland Reply-To: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: AMOS vs. QBasic To: Jens Vang Petersen cc: amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Jens Vang Petersen wrote: > Hello, > > Question: > > If I get a QBasic listing in ASCII from a PC (Yack), how much work should I > expect to get it running in AMOS Pro ??? > How big is the diffrence on the two ?? > -- > Kind regards from It depends on what you are trying to port. Math, and PRINT stuff should be easy. Graphics will require a working knowledge of QBasic graphics commands, so you can translate them, but I think most of them have Amos equivalents. QBasic is a basic basic it doesn't have things like Amos bob commands. Lastly for PEEK, and POKE you will need to understand what their doing, or CALLing. I've doen Apple// to ADAM, but not QBasic to AMOS, but I did dabble a little with QBasic, and if you have a good working knowledge of the two languages it should be simple enough. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 11:53:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 11:53:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13628 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:53:13 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA06448 for amos-out; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 05:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06445 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 05:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21253 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 05:33:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from login.eunet.no (login.eunet.no [193.71.1.4]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09751 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:33:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mortenbo@login.eunet.no) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc24.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.24]) by login.eunet.no (8.8.6/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id LAA19543 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 11:32:58 +0100 (MET) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Tue, 16 May 1978 19:04:38 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Procedures & Gosub's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello! I have a little coding problem that i think most of you are able to help me out with quite easy. a Procedure a b endproc procedure b a endproc This will cause a out or stack error becos it writes the same data one time for each loop until you are out of stack space, Right?? But how do you make this work??? And will it be bether to do it like this?? Movment: (some code) return procedure a do (some code) gosub movment loop endproc With this i dont get it to jump out of the proceure and go to Movment: and return back into the procedure. I tryed Global movment but that dident help at all :( The reason i want it to be like one of these exampels is that i'am gonna have 6 procedures and then it takes up to much space and memory to have the code in movment 6 times, when i dont need to have it more than one time. Oki, please help me with this prob!!! Morten Bolstad. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 18:01:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 18:01:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11965 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:01:03 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07088 for amos-out; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:50:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07085 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:50:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10626 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from login.eunet.no (pc25.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.25]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12075 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:50:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mortenbo@login.eunet.no) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Tue, 16 May 1978 23:36:01 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Procedures & Gosub's 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello. It's me again, i wrote the question abouth procedures & Gosub's some hours ago, but i joust relised that it is less than 20 days to the big computer party here in Norway called The Gathering, and i have to be finnished with the code for the diskmag i'am working on before The Gathering starts. So PLEEEZ ansver my question FAAAAASSST!!! Thax. Morten Bolstad. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 14:42:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 14:42:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13357 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:42:04 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA06686 for amos-out; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 07:34:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06679 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 07:34:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from serv1.is1.u-net.net (serv1.is1.u-net.net [194.119.130.9]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA04459 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 07:34:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from bexley.u-net.com [194.119.166.76] by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yGNZB-0001OV-00; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:40:01 +0000 Date: 21 Mar 98 12:36:09 +0000 From: "David Smith" Subject: Re: Extensionlists.. To: "Jens Vang Petersen" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <784.384T475T7562390@bexley.u-net.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Hello Jens Vang Petersen, on 20-Mar-98 18:42:47 you said: > !! EXTENSION-HATERS MIGHT WANT TO STOP HERE !! > Ok, nice that you're still reading :-) > I've changed the extensionlist on my pages, so they should now work with any > frame-supporting browser (Yeah, I hope so....) I use the registered version of AWeb-II and I can make no sense of your page at all now. It was difficult before, but it's now impossible to see the extension list - or anything else worthwhile. I click on the top edge of partially hidden buttons not knowing what they really are. I've tried changing the HTML modes but to no avail. The trouble appears to be that everything loads on top of everything else. I would prefer to have a long page that scrolls. Any chance of changing it again? David Smith From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 15:31:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 15:31:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11902 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:31:07 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07053 for amos-out; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07050 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA10568 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2029832; 21 Mar 98 14:36 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003u4; Sat, 21 Mar 98 14:36:31 GMT Date: Sat, 21 Mar 98 14:36:31 GMT Message-Id: <9803211436.AA003tz@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <2607916e.u10t12e.1ac92-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <35131153.20A4@mail.ozemail.com.au> (from geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au) (at Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:01:07 +0800) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: AMOS in this Stars Status: O X-Status: To the one known as geosync, > Hey crew, > I was checking out the Hubble telescope pages and I found this... > http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/messier/xtra/ngc/n2976.html > ...the images were produced using Amigas!!!! > Check it out :) Seriously cool !! _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "Blobby Blobby Blobby !!!" |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 17:45:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 17:45:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25052 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:45:50 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07205 for amos-out; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07202 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.globalserve.net (smtp1.globalserve.net [209.90.144.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23470 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from globalserve.net (@dialin37.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.37]) by smtp1.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA26624 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:35:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199803211535.KAA26624@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:34:59 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: AMOS List Subject: Another problem... geez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Okay, all the problems from the previous message still stand. But now I have yet another problem. For some reason Tcp Close REALLY hates it, It seems to freeze up entirely, and when I switch to AMOS (via ams) ITS totally frozen and I end up rebooting... What the hell is going on? ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic -*Under Reconstruction*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress... I really should start accomplishing more geez... ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 22:20:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 22:20:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14843 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:20:22 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14151 for amos-out; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14148 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01939 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7453 invoked from network); 21 Mar 1998 18:47:16 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 21 Mar 1998 18:47:16 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.33]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA45558; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:47:13 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: David Smith , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:45:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <784.384T475T7562390@bexley.u-net.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: Extensionlists.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA14149 Status: O X-Status: On 21-Mar-98, David Smith smashed the keyboard with: >> I've changed the extensionlist on my pages, so they should now work with any >> frame-supporting browser (Yeah, I hope so....) > > I use the registered version of AWeb-II and I can make no sense of your page at > all now. It was difficult before, but it's now impossible to see the extension > list - or anything else worthwhile. I click on the top edge of partially > hidden buttons not knowing what they really are. I've tried changing the HTML > modes but to no avail. > > The trouble appears to be that everything loads on top of everything else. I > would prefer to have a long page that scrolls. Any chance of changing it again? I've just run it on a unregistred version of AWebII, and I can see the problem, gah... The problem is AWeb, it don't support direct values in defining frames, only % values.. Da-dum-da-dej.... Ufff... I thought I'd covered it when I'd tested on IBrowse and Voyager with everything looking fine.. Ok, back to square one I guess to find a way to get it running on AWeb... -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... -- Winston Churchill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 21:42:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 21:42:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02796 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:42:12 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15532 for amos-out; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:27:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15529 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us [204.194.39.250]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13682 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (fer007@localhost) by fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA12582 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:32:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:32:09 -0500 (EST) From: fernando Bartra To: AMOS Subject: f1-113 aga extension Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: id like to get some specs on the aga extension, like what are screen limits/colors/dimensions, thank you wolfpack From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 23:56:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 23:56:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20292 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:56:14 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16673 for amos-out; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16670 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17154 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.60) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:54:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: Procedures & Gosub's 2 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:10:59 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Hello. It's me again, i wrote the question abouth procedures & > Gosub's some hours ago, but i just relised that it is less than 20 > days to the big computer party here in Norway called The > Gathering, and i have to be finnished with the code for the > diskmag i'am working on before The Gathering starts. > So PLEEEZ ansver my question FAAAAASSST!!! Okay. Let's have a look at the first post... :-) > I have a little coding problem that i think most of you are able to > help me out with quite easily. > A > Procedure A > B > End Proc > Procedure B > A > End Proc > This will cause a out or stack error becos it writes the same data > one time for each loop until you are out of stack space, Right?? Correct. Calling procedures stores data on the stack, but the End Proc is never reached (nor Pop Proc), so this data is never removed from the stack. > But how do you make this work??? Make WHAT work? What are you trying to do?? > And will it be better to do it like this?? > MOVMENT: > (some code) > Return > Procedure A > Do > (some code) > Gosub MOVMENT > Loop > End Proc Again, I'm not sure what you're trying to do. I can't see why you want an infinite loop rather than some conditional loop like While SOMETHING or Repeat Until SOMETHING. > With this i don't get it to jump out of the procedure and go to > Movment: and return back into the procedure. I tryed Global > movment but that did'nt help at all :( When you call procedure A, it should continually Gosub MOVMENT. The code in MOVMENT will be executed then the Return statement will bring control back to the line after the Gosub (in Procedure A) which is Loop, so this process will repeat again... and again... and... > The reason i want it to be like one of these examples is that i'm > gonna have 6 procedures and then it takes up too much space > and memory to have the code in movment 6 times, when i don't > need to have it more than one time. It would help tremendously if you could give us a snip of the actual program code or describe exactly what you are trying to achieve. Based on the above, all I can say is try something like this: Procedure ONE DoYourStuff End Procedure ... same for TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. All the way up to... Procedure SIX DoYourStuff End Proc ALLDONE=False Repeat ProcessSomeStuffHere SortOutWhichProcedureToCall CallTheProcedureHere (MOVMENT, ONE, TWO, THREE, etc.) CheckForExitCondition. If ReadyToExit Set ALLDONE=True Until ALLDONE I really need more info on what you're after as I can't see what the problem is. :-) Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 23:44:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 23:44:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14183 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:44:14 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18206 for amos-out; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:59:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAB18199 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28635 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:59:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26811 invoked from network); 21 Mar 1998 20:59:51 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 21 Mar 1998 20:59:51 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.15]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA24554; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:59:49 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: David Smith , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:58:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <784.384T475T7562390@bexley.u-net.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: Extensionlists.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id PAA18202 Status: O X-Status: On 21-Mar-98, David Smith smashed the keyboard with: >> I've changed the extensionlist on my pages, so they should now work with any >> frame-supporting browser (Yeah, I hope so....) > > I use the registered version of AWeb-II and I can make no sense of your page at > all now. It was difficult before, but it's now impossible to see the extension > list - or anything else worthwhile. I click on the top edge of partially > hidden buttons not knowing what they really are. I've tried changing the HTML > modes but to no avail. Ok, Now I've redone some parts again, and I've tested it on the latest versions of Ibrowse, AWebII and Voyager. It appears to work on all now, as a side-effect the pages should also look better on highresolutions, I tried with 1024*768 on AWebII and no problems at all. Please try again and see what you get... I thought about returning to one big listing, but that would sure be big, when I gave it up the first time I had two lists (TC and PRO) each of more than 50 Kb, so I guess people with slow servers would not like me very much, besides it's easier to update when it's split into little pieces :).. -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 18:38:32 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 21 18:38:32 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16093 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:38:32 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07837 for amos-out; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07834 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from saturn.vision.net.au (saturn.vision.net.au [203.17.23.11]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04297 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ender.vision.net.au (p06.hbt-ts.vision.net.au [203.17.245.38]) by saturn.vision.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA24172 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:41:45 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199803211541.CAA24172@saturn.vision.net.au> From: "James Brown (Ender/Gcc)" Organization: GCC Int, Tasmania To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:28:50 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: AMOS vs. QBasic Reply-to: ender@vision.net.au Priority: normal In-reply-to: Status: O X-Status: > Hello, > > Question: > > If I get a QBasic listing in ASCII from a PC (Yack), how much work should I > expect to get it running in AMOS Pro ??? > How big is the diffrence on the two ?? Generally not much, but realisticly a hell of a lot. The largest problem (for a bit program, it depends) is changing the subs to procedures. Next change the Lcase$ to Lower$ and Ucase$ to Upper$, and you will have to find/write your own ltrim$ and rtrim$ functions (I've got one here SOMEWHERE... Arrg!). Pokes and Peeks are useless to translate unless you know how the IBM and Amigas work. Ditto for interrupts and Call Absolute. The sound command and gfx commands need changing, and you need to change the screen command (if used) to open a screen with the appropriate res/size. Aside from that and a few other things, theres not much difference. > -- > Kind regards from > ______________________________________________________________________________ > /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN > / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk > /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ > -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- > -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Avoid temporary variables and strange women. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Regards, James Brown - Ender/Gcc - Ender@vision.net.au -- Team *AMOS*, Http://Endergcc.home.ml.org - Fido: 3:670/213.42 -- IAPA, GCC Int. Programming: CBATNAM, Yeerk Pool 7 and Extreme Doom -- My ICQ: 7823451 ------------------------------------------------------------- "No ma'am. We at the FBI don't have a sense of humor that we're aware of." -- Kay, Men In Black From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 15:28:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 15:28:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04997 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:28:19 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23818 for amos-out; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23815 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netwave.net (mail.netwave.net [207.112.132.11]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25281 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pppsrs107.netwave.net (pppsrs107.netwave.net [209.100.37.107]) by mail.netwave.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA12559; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 08:23:50 -0600 Date: 21 Mar 98 14:43:01 -0600 From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" Subject: Re: Procedures & Gosub's To: "Morten Bolstad" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1642.384T95T8832168@netwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Morten Bolstad digitized on 16-May-78 08:04:38: MB> Hello! MB> I have a little coding problem that i think most of you are able MB> to help me out with quite easy. Well, I never have used Procedures much, so this is just a guess... Let's imagine 'a' is your 'Movement' procedure. MB> a MB> Procedure a MB> b ^- delete this line when 'a' exits it should jump back to 'b' MB> endproc MB> procedure b MB> a MB> endproc AFAIK, Procedures are little programs, all by themselves. They can't call subroutines that aren't contained within the Procedure, which is why I don't use them. I use all Subroutines. But I think a Procedure can call another Procedure. MB> The reason i want it to be like one of these exampels is that MB> i'am gonna have MB> 6 procedures and then it takes up to much space and memory to MB> have the code in movment 6 times, when i dont need to have it MB> more than one time. Then you can have: Procedure c Paste Bob, b,x,y a Endproc Procedure d Locate x,y:Print a Endproc Procedure e Do Something Else a Endproc etc... MB> Oki, please help me with this prob!!! Hope this helps :) MB> Morten Bolstad. Greets, - Rand -- ______ ________________________ //// | _ \ _____ ___ __ _____ mailto:rand@netwave.net //// | [_} )(___ \ ( \ | ( _ \ http://www.netwave.net/members/rand | _ ( / __ \ | \| | |_} ) //// |__| \___)(_______(__|\____(_____/ \\\\//// {{:-(*) <-- Klingon eating a Tribble. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 17:56:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 17:56:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10843 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:56:36 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27829 for amos-out; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:51:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27826 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco24-106.cas.golden.net [209.89.176.106]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04872 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:51:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp15-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.64]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA21358 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:44:33 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:44:52 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199803211535.KAA26624@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Another problem... geez MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 21-Mar-98, Ryan Watson wrote: >For some reason Tcp Close REALLY hates it, It seems to freeze up entirely, >and when I switch to AMOS (via ams) ITS totally frozen and I end up >rebooting... One version of the GUI ext had that bug. Upgrade to the next version. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 18:35:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 18:35:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01233 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:35:18 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27850 for amos-out; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27841 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:52:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco24-106.cas.golden.net [209.89.176.106]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06409 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp15-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.64]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA21387 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:45:04 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:48:44 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199803202211.RAA09841@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: MUD client MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 20-Mar-98, Ryan Watson wrote: >Fourth, How would I make it so I can make the program detect if the TCP >stack exists? I tried a really lame thing that checked if TCP: existed, but >that didn't work. when you first open the tcp: port, the command returns a code for a successful open or not. A=Tcp Open (or whatever) If A=0 Fuck! No TCP: Endif Or something similar. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 21:52:26 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 21:52:26 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25161 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:52:25 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03278 for amos-out; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03275 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26295 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2366 invoked from network); 22 Mar 1998 19:42:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.145) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 22 Mar 1998 19:42:59 -0000 From: Andy Kellett Reply-To: Andy Kellett To: fernando Bartra CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:41:03 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library Subject: Re: f1-113 aga extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: > id like to get some specs on the aga extension, > like what are screen limits/colors/dimensions, > thank you > wolfpack -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! 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From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 20:28:53 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 20:28:53 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03316 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:28:53 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03248 for amos-out; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03245 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07151 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.51) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:24:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: Procedures & Gosub's Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:40:16 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Well, I never have used Procedures much, so this is just a guess... > Let's imagine 'a' is your 'Movement' procedure. > MB> a > MB> Procedure a > MB> b > ^- delete this line > when 'a' exits it should jump back to 'b' > MB> endproc > > MB> procedure b > MB> a > MB> endproc > AFAIK, Procedures are little programs, all by themselves. They can't > call subroutines that aren't contained within the Procedure, which is > why I don't use them. I use all Subroutines. But I think a Procedure > can call another Procedure. Very true!! Didn't even catch that. Yes, you can't be calling the "external" subroutine from inside the Procedure. If you still need help with this then give some more specifics about what you're trying to do as that will help sort out the problem. I can't see why you need to call a subroutine from a Procedure. Just change the subroutine to a procedure like Rand has shown. Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 22:29:47 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 22 22:29:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14254 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:29:47 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA04343 for amos-out; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04340 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA19277 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (204.186.168.62) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:56:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: brainstorming list now on-line!! Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:12:35 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello Everyone. Some of you may recall a message I posted to this list back in January... I proposed the creation of a small "Idea Group". A list where us developers could throw some ideas around, deal with issues such as concept and design, and all the subjective aspects that must be dealt with before we can proceed to the implementation phase. Basically, just a lot of BSing that hopefully produces some interesting game-designs, expands and solidifies raw "ideas", provides new twists on old play-mechanics/genres, etc. Of course, we can get into program code as well if there's an interest. In fact, while I don't think "holy wars" over which language is better would be very productive, I have no problem with discussing the porting of code from one language to another or any other issues which are useful to developers. Anyway, I have set up this list: brainstorming@coollist.com I am using the Coollist server which seems to be able to handle all of our needs (spam control, fast servers, etc). To subscribe to the list, send an email to my address, with the subject of "brainstorming" and the text "subscribe your email address" in the top of the message body: ----------------------------------------------------- To: gbenjam@sosbbs.com Subject : brainstorming ----------------------------------------------------- subscribe username@mailhost.com THANKS for reading this message... Garfield Benjamin e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 50% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 01:58:54 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 01:58:54 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10029 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:58:53 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA08295 for amos-out; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08292 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet11.ozemail.com.au (oznet11.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.118]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10453 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:46:20 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie ([203.38.11.182]) by oznet11.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA09272 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:46:15 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3515A2CD.1040@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:46:21 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: FastBlitter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi all, Anyone heard of a Workbench proggie called FastBlitter? I read about it in Amiga Format, but as I can`t read the CD-ROM just now (I`ll get one soon) I couldn`t check ROM for it. Anyone (Beuler...Beuler...) Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 03:17:41 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 03:17:41 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09409 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 03:17:40 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA09566 for amos-out; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09563 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27090 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:20:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2008013; 23 Mar 98 1:56 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003uj; Mon, 23 Mar 98 01:55:48 GMT Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 01:55:48 GMT Message-Id: <9803230155.AA003ui@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <26098223.u10t12e.5fb0d-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3515A2CD.1040@mail.ozemail.com.au> (from geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au) (at Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:46:21 +0800) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: FastBlitter Status: O X-Status: To the one known as geosync, > Anyone heard of a Workbench proggie called FastBlitter? I read about it > in Amiga Format, but as I can`t read the CD-ROM just now (I`ll get one > soon) I couldn`t check ROM for it. Is that the one that does "blitting" via cpu ? Aminet ? _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | Hmmm, I'm sure I was thinking of a cool |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | quote when I loaded this file.. | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 12:22:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 12:22:51 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25926 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:22:51 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA14241 for amos-out; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:15:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14238 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18735 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:15:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port55.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.37]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08424 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:15:03 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1991 21:13:09 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: Outlining text MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id GAA14239 Status: O X-Status: Hi all, How do I outline bitmaps, like text etc. Like in dpaint, how you just click `o' and its done very quickly, can this be done in amos, or would it take forever to do. Jamie Bentley --------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Jamie Bentley - Graphic Artist - Since 1993 * 3D - FMV - Comics - Cartoon Animation Extreme knowledge with: | *PC | Science fiction - anims+object design *Amiga | Accident reconstruction *Silicon Graphics | Engine models *Flame and Paintbox | 2D graphic work aswell (morphing etc). -------------------------------------------------------------------------- *"The truth is out there. But it isn't as interesting as the lies!"* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 13:32:41 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 13:32:40 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02836 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:32:40 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14624 for amos-out; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14621 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailext02.compaq.com (mailext02.compaq.com [207.18.199.33]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA27605 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.compaq.com(really [207.18.199.35]) by mailext02.compaq.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:01:43 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.93 1997-Apr-12 #2 built 1997-Dec-21) Received: from exchou-conn02.im.hou.compaq.com(really [172.18.22.250]) by mail.compaq.com via sendmail with esmtp id for ; Mon, 23 Mar 98 06:00:03 -0600 (CST) (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.10 built 18-dec-97) Received: by EXCHOU-CONN02.im.hou.compaq.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:08:41 -0600 Message-ID: <313042D3BE09D111864400805F193BB3C983C6@excdub-02.dblcc.eur.compaq.com> From: "Nackros, Andreas" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: RE: Outlining text Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:05:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id HAA14622 Status: O X-Status: Hi! I believe that the easiest would be to print the text 4 times with the "outline" colour, one pixel to the left, right, below and above. Or you can do it 8 times all around! Then print it in the middle with the "pen" colour! /Andreas Näckros -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Bentley [SMTP:sniper@technet2000.com.au] Sent: 23 March 1991 11:13 To: AMOS HELP Subject: Outlining text Hi all, How do I outline bitmaps, like text etc. Like in dpaint, how you just click `o' and its done very quickly, can this be done in amos, or would it take forever to do. Jamie Bentley --------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Jamie Bentley - Graphic Artist - Since 1993 * 3D - FMV - Comics - Cartoon Animation Extreme knowledge with: | *PC | Science fiction - anims+object design *Amiga | Accident reconstruction *Silicon Graphics | Engine models *Flame and Paintbox | 2D graphic work aswell (morphing etc). -------------------------------------------------------------------------- *"The truth is out there. But it isn't as interesting as the lies!"* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 16:23:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 16:23:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14664 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:23:21 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17289 for amos-out; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17286 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco24-106.cas.golden.net [209.89.176.106]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29618 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:33:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp12-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.61]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA29727 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:27:22 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:24:21 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Outlining text MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 23-Mar-91, Jamie Bentley wrote: > How do I outline bitmaps, like text etc. There isn't an easy command. You pretty much have to do a stamp of the text 3x3 then erase the middle. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 14:40:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 14:40:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09834 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:40:36 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14744 for amos-out; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14741 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10789 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:35:42 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 23 Mar 98 12:42:39 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 23 Mar 98 12:41:31 GMT+0 From: Lee Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:37:06 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Outlining text Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <14B11CE186A@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: > > How do I outline bitmaps, like text etc. Like in dpaint, how you just click `o' and its done very quickly, can this be done in amos, or would it take forever to do. Good question. You probably stick it through a filter, If I have time I'll have a go. BTW. Anyone seen my Lazer thing on this months CU Amiga magazine? > ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Its just a big egg pie! ________________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 23:46:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 23 23:46:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27061 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:46:28 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA05404 for amos-out; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05401 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco24-106.cas.golden.net [209.89.176.106]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29825 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:21:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp3-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.52]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA05897 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:15:08 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:20:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: BSDSocket MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Anyone got an .fd file for this one? Or some docs for using the udp protocol in it? Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 13:19:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 13:19:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25271 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:19:19 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA18988 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18985 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA08756 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1144 invoked by alias); 24 Mar 1998 01:33:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 15261 invoked from network); 22 Mar 1998 19:44:14 -0000 Received: from 1cust166.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.166) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 22 Mar 1998 19:44:14 -0000 Message-ID: <005e01bd55ca$e4d10420$a610fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Mr. Giark To You" Cc: "Keith Hill" , "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: CBATNAM Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:44:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > No kidding. My SCSI card is ordered. My SCSI card is paid for. > It is just not here yet. There is an Amiga show in Toronto in > May. I want CBATNAM to be done by that time! > I'm glad someone still remembers the Cap'n. We still need > all the between level pics and the intro anim and the music. No kidding! I thought I was the only one that still remembered Cap'n Bubba (as there hadn't been any talk about it since the beginning of the year: several months now.) Till now, I've had my level and CBATNAM things stored away on my Amiga (which hasn't been turned on now for about 3 weeks or so). Anyhow, I'll get to finishing it (sigh), although it may not be very fast (I have a few c2p routines and drawing commands I'm gonna try for speedups, albeit nothing will be finished if I don't get the needed music from EJ!) Btw (Giark): How goes the intro and level pics (who and what)? I'll be doing the needed Level pics for my level (and I can do others if needed). Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 12:34:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 12:34:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07103 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:34:18 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA18428 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:21:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18425 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.utu.fi (mailhost.utu.fi [130.232.1.5]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28820 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by utu.fi with SMTP id <8426-20542>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:21:41 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:21:41 +0200 (EET) Sender: samali@utu.fi From: Sasu Lintula To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: I want fast lines! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Could you help me with this one: I need a fast line drawing routine for my next game (faster than on any extensions). I have tried to do it on my own but failed more than once. I found routine called "Simpleline" from the "Amiga Hardware Reference Manual", I have compiled it and tried to use it with Amos, but nothing will happen:((( The routine needs following values: D0/D1 = X1/Y1 D2/D3 = X2/Y2 D4 = Planewidth in bytes A0 = Planepointer I'm using a following program: Screen Open 0,320,200,16,Lowres Cls 0 PLoad "simpleline",10 DReg(0)=1:Dreg(1)=1:Dreg(2)=200:Dreg(3)=100:Dreg(4)=40:Areg(0)=Phybase(0) Call 10 Timer shows that something happens but there are no line on a screen. It may be a little stupid thing I do wrong and I may be stupid for not noticing it. This thing drives me mad. So I beg you, please help (It ain't nice to be stupid and mad at the same time). I've included the asm source for you to look at. Sorry for the length, I promise I won't bother you anymore... include "Work:Sources/Exec/types.i" include "Work:Sources/Hardware/custom.i" include "Work:Sources/Hardware/blit.i" include "Work:Sources/Hardware/dmabits.i xref _custom xdef simpleline simpleline: lea _custom,a1 sub.w d0,d2 bmi xneg sub.w d1,d3 bmi yneg cmp.w d3,d2 bmi ygtx moveq.l #OCTANT1+LINEMODE,d5 bra lineagain ygtx: exg d2,d3 moveq.l #OCTANT2+LINEMODE,d5 bra lineagain yneg: neg.w d3 cmp.w d3,d2 bmi ynygtx moveq.l #OCTANT8+LINEMODE,d5 bra lineagain ynygtx: exg d2,d3 moveq.l #OCTANT7+LINEMODE,d5 bra lineagain xneg: neg.w d2 sub.w d1,d3 bmi xyneg cmp.w d3,d2 bmi xnygtx moveq.l #OCTANT4+LINEMODE,d5 bra lineagain xnygtx: exg d2,d3 moveq.l #OCTANT3+LINEMODE,d5 bra lineagain xyneg: neg.w d3 cmp.w d3,d2 bmi xynygtx moveq.l #OCTANT5+LINEMODE,d5 bra lineagain xynygtx: exg d2,d3 moveq.l #OCTANT6+LINEMODE,d5 lineagain: mulu.w d4,d1 ror.l #4,d0 add.w d0,d0 add.l d1,a0 add.w d0,a0 swap d0 or.w #$bfa,d0 lsl.w #2,d3 add.w d2,d2 move.w d2,d1 lsl.w #5,d1 add.w #$42,d1 btst #DMAB_BLTDONE-8,dmaconr(a1) waitblit: btst #DMAB_BLTDONE-8,dmaconr(a1) bne waitblit move.w d3,bltbmod(a1) sub.w d2,d3 ext.l d3 move.l d3,bltapt(a1) bpl lineover or.w #SIGNFLAG,d5 lineover: move.w d0,bltcon0(a1) move.w d5,bltcon1(a1) move.w d4,bltcmod(a1) move.w d4,bltdmod(a1) sub.w d2,d3 move.w d3,bltamod(a1) move.w #$8000,bltadat(a1) moveq.l #-1,d5 move.l d5,bltafwm(a1) move.l a0,bltcpt(a1) move.l a0,bltdpt(a1) move.w d1,bltsize(a1) rts end SLin From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 16:32:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 16:32:26 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06598 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:32:26 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25709 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25704 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco16-216.cas.golden.net [207.216.78.216]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20899 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp19-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.68]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA04663 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:05:12 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:56:22 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <005e01bd55ca$e4d10420$a610fed0@acer200> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: CBATNAM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 22-Mar-98, Adam Parrott wrote: >Anyhow, I'll get to finishing it (sigh), although it may not be very fast Just get something done. Q8-{) >Btw (Giark): How goes the intro and level pics (who and what)? It's all still on the page. As soon as I get the new equipment integrated, I'll send out hate mail to all the people involved to try to get the project back on track. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 17:40:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 17:40:44 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19269 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:40:44 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26335 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26328 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco16-216.cas.golden.net [207.216.78.216]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20751 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp19-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.68]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA04672 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:05:36 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:00:04 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: BSDSocket MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 23-Mar-98, Richard Griffith wrote: >Both amitcp and miami sdk have fd's and docs. >See aminet/comm/tcp/AmiTCP-SDK-4.3.lha >and/or ftp://146.189.18.33/pub/miami/MiamiSDK211.lha I'm not ashamed to say I'll need help with this stuff. I'm going to port ICQ for Amiga. I've already got people working on captures of the ICQ sessions, so all it will take is a bit of programming skill (which I have). I'll be doing the notifiy, message and chat functions (All I want out of it) and then I'll release the code to all you slavering dogs to add more to it. Q8-{) I want to show the ICQ fools that a program does not need to be 3 megs in size to do anything. >IIRC, udp is mostly requesting SOCK_DGRAM on the socket >call, and then living with the consequences. Expect more questions as this stuff progresses. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 11:11:09 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 11:11:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02740 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:11:09 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA18246 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:45:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18243 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:45:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08007 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:45:32 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp3.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.83]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA111 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:49:36 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp3.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0001C082; Tue, 24 Mar 98 02:43:06 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:36:13 -0700 Message-ID: <0001C082.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re: *** Sorting Problem *** To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Did anyone get a chance to look at this for me? Pretty please........ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: *** Sorting Problem *** Author: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com at Internet Date: 19/03/98 09:16 I have uploaded the AMOS source of my program to http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/wlib.htm It requires GUI Extension V1.62+ to run and once it is running you will get a better picture of what I need from the sorting routine. I have also included some voice banks to look at. To see what I mean, choose the first voice in the destination bank and view the voice properties. Make a note of the name and settings and close the window. Choose Sort by Name from the menu and you will see that the sort is done and the listview updated. Now choose the first voice in the destination bank again and view the properties. You will see that everything is the same as before except the name has changed and this is down to the sort. Any help you could give me on this would be much appreciated. While I'm here, if someone could get me a screenshot of the main screen and one of the voice properties window open. Thanks. I'm gonna push my luck with this one, while in the voice properties window, if I try to rename a voice and press enter, my system crashes. Can you also try that and see what happens. If any of you GUI experts can shed any light on that I would be eternally grateful. That's it I promise you......Thanks again. Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 20:17:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 20:17:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01579 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:17:33 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10925 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10922 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:39:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20057 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:39:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2009094; 24 Mar 98 18:25 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003wl; Tue, 24 Mar 98 18:24:31 GMT Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 18:24:31 GMT Message-Id: <9803241824.AA003wg@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <260bbb5e.u10t12e.6a5d7-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from "Mr. Giark To You" ) (at Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:56:22 -0500) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: CBATNAM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA10923 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Mr., > On 22-Mar-98, Adam Parrott wrote: > >Anyhow, I'll get to finishing it (sigh), although it may not be very fast > Just get something done. Q8-{) > >Btw (Giark): How goes the intro and level pics (who and what)? > It's all still on the page. As soon as I get the new equipment integrated, > I'll send out hate mail to all the people involved to try to get the project > back on track. Urk, thats me. Ok, keep reminding me. _ _ _ _ _ _ | Please let me sleep ! P-P-Poetry, |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | that'll work. Come sweet slumber and |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | shroud me in thy purple cloak. Huh, | doesn't even rhyme. - Max Headroom --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 22:41:53 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 22:41:53 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09305 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:41:52 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16266 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:02:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16263 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:02:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28206 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21385 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:01:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA09697 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:01:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA04839 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:01:09 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:01:08 -0600 (CST) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Subject: Re: AMOS in this Stars In-Reply-To: <9803211436.AA003tz@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > To the one known as geosync, > > Hey crew, > > I was checking out the Hubble telescope pages and I found this... > > http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/messier/xtra/ngc/n2976.html > > ...the images were produced using Amigas!!!! > > Check it out :) > > Seriously cool !! > Talk about Cool! It says they used Amiga 1000's! Go Amiga! Scott Matott sXe From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 23:22:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 23:22:18 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA09944 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:22:18 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23388 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23381 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:30:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco16-216.cas.golden.net [207.216.78.216]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19799 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp36-ts2-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.85]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA06903 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:22:42 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:26:40 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <260bbb5e.u10t12e.6a5d7-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: CBATNAM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 24-Mar-98, Keith Hill wrote: >Urk, thats me. Ok, keep reminding me. You're reminded. Get whipping that tame artist! Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 23:48:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 24 23:48:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10958 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:48:37 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26614 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:28:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26611 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [193.195.0.154]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA19703 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:28:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1014291; 24 Mar 98 22:20 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003wv; Tue, 24 Mar 98 22:19:28 GMT Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 22:19:28 GMT Message-Id: <9803242219.AA003wu@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <260bf26e.u10t12e.666ad-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from "Scooter D. Matott sXe" ) (at Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:01:08 -0600 (CST)) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: 3D Amos. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id RAA26612 Status: O X-Status: First question. Ok, what else do people want from a new 3D for amos, even silly suggestions. Second question: What are people prepared to DO to get it ? If you can't answer question two.. _ _ _ _ _ _ | This .sig space for rent, or available |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | for sponsership. Reasonable rates. |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | Most offers considered. Contact above | address for details. --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 20:10:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 20:10:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27969 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:10:19 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04329 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04326 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:02:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from star.flashnet.it (star.flashnet.it [194.247.160.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20106 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:02:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip007.pool-01.flashnet.it (Berionne@ip007.pool-01.flashnet.it [194.247.191.7]) by star.flashnet.it (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA12328 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:02:36 +0100 Date: 25 Mar 98 00:19:21 +0100 From: "Michele Berionne" Subject: Re: BSDSocket To: "Mr. Giark To You" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <980.388T1087T194868@flashnet.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Hi there! > I'm not ashamed to say I'll need help with this stuff. I'm going to port > ICQ for Amiga. I've already got people working on captures of the ICQ > sessions, so all it will take is a bit of programming skill (which I > have). Before even starting it, get a look at: www.mcmedia.com.au/amigaicq/ It could be interesting!! :-))) They are already making a port of ICQ to Amiga platform. > I'll be doing the notifiy, message and chat functions (All I want > out of it) and then I'll release the code to all you slavering dogs to add > more to it. I think there's a problem of copyright. I'm not really sure about it, you can find on the web page above. Anyway, ICQ uses a not public code. Bye berionne@flashnet.it >>Flagger<< +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 01:45:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 01:45:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19716 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:45:06 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01042 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01039 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.globalserve.net (smtp1.globalserve.net [209.90.144.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17869 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from globalserve.net (@dialin41.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.41]) by smtp1.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA04724; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:42:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199803242342.SAA04724@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:41:30 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: "Mr. Giark To You" Subject: RE: BSDSocket cc: AMOS List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: On Tue, Mar 24, 1998, at 10:00 AM, Mr. Giark To You wrote: > On 23-Mar-98, Richard Griffith wrote: > >Both amitcp and miami sdk have fd's and docs. > >See aminet/comm/tcp/AmiTCP-SDK-4.3.lha > >and/or ftp://146.189.18.33/pub/miami/MiamiSDK211.lha > > I'm not ashamed to say I'll need help with this stuff. I'm going to port > ICQ > for Amiga. I've already got people working on captures of the ICQ > sessions, so > all it will take is a bit of programming skill (which I have). I'll be > doing > the notifiy, message and chat functions (All I want out of it) and then > I'll > release the code to all you slavering dogs to add more to it. Q8-{) I want > to > show the ICQ fools that a program does not need to be 3 megs in size to do > anything. There's a port already in progress btw... forgot the URL though. But I'm absolutely sure its already in motion. ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic -*Under Reconstruction*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress... I really should start accomplishing more geez... ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 02:34:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 02:34:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA15424 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:34:02 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02900 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:50:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02897 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:50:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.globalserve.net (smtp1.globalserve.net [209.90.144.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00696 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from globalserve.net (@dialin41.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.41]) by smtp1.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05024 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:51:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199803242351.SAA05024@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:50:47 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: AMOS List Subject: More MUD client questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Okay, I'm going to basically reword my previous questions, because I THINK I missed out a bit. Okay, here goes, 1.For some reason I can't get the MUD I'm connecting to to receive anything, I have no idea why. I made a VERY simple IRC thingy and it worked okay (besides not registering properly - but that's another story) but I do the same thing and it registers nothing. What's going on??? 2.What would be the fastest way to filter out [CR] and [LF] chracters from incoming data and instead make it go to the next line LIKE IT SHOULD but doesn't? 3.How come the size of the GUIs I make get screwed up after I convert them. For example I made a GUI in the EXACT same resolution as my main workbench and I had it go across the whole screen, and after I converted it to a bank and 'GUI OPEN'ed it up, it took I'd say 7/8ths across to be specific. WHY? 4.It seems that TCP CLOSE is very slow... it will disconnect but it takes a long time to do so? Does it take longer if its waiting for a response from a transfer? 5.I think thats it... is it? -thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic -*Under Reconstruction*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress... I really should start accomplishing more geez... ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 02:47:31 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 02:47:31 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25588 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:47:31 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA07267 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07260 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:15:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet11.ozemail.com.au (oznet11.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.118]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03638 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:15:40 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per2-9.space.net.au [203.38.11.245]) by oznet11.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA26390; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:15:34 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <35185AB8.1567@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:15:36 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net CC: Casey R Williams , Patrick Jeffers Subject: News to hand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Hi all, Here`s some depressing news about the Amiga but you all have to know at some stage...We have to take a stand. (See comments after) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- (The Australian Tue 24/03/98 - by John Sterilcchi) Almost a year to the day after its takeover by Gateway 2000, the future is still far from clear for PC manufacturer Amiga Computer and its cult technology. While the man charged by Gateway to exploit the technology says he has a continually changing vision, he is certain that Gateway will not manufacture new Amiga machines. And while they wait for that vision to be shared with the masses, Amiga fans say the rescue has not led to a resurgence in confidence among supporters. For example, take UK system builder Siamese Systems. Earlier this month, Siamese announced a development strategy to build an Amiga/Wintel clone. Its aim is "to bring the Amiga into the mainstream computer market to create a hybrid Amiga/Windows platform that can bring rewards to the Amiga owner by giving them access to low-cost PC components, and to the PC owner by bringing the richness of the Amiga software base". But before the comany completed development, Siamese managing director Stephen Jones wrote to the Amiga faithful to say he needed 500 orders with a down payment. "We have invested everything into this Amiga market, and cannot do it any longer unless there are people who are willing to order the product," he said. Mr Jones, who believes the Amiga "has one of the greatest operating systems and hardware designs ever," says users are holding back on investing in hardware until they see something happening at Amiga. Amiga is a research and development entity set up by Gateway 2000 in mid -1997 to work alongside Amiga International, which is the sales and marketing operation. Amiga general manager Jeff Schindler, who headed the innovative Destination PC/TV project at Gateway before moving over, says he has a vision for the Amiga, but at the moment it changes "almost weekly". However a number of factors are firm. There will be no new Amiga computers from Gateway, but there will be an upgrade to the operating system - together with software development kits sometime this year to support development by the Amiga community. The longer-term plan is to develop reference designs for various types of products which will be licensed to third parties. Mr Schindler sees Amiga`s future in providing products for the "globally connected digital society". There is now time frame for this master plan, but Mr Schindler told the faithful at last week's Amiga98 show in St Louis, Missouri: "We're in the valley, and we're going to have to spend some more time there before we come back up." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ END OF ARTICLE. Those with cash go out and order a Siamese system today, all others send email to these people to show your support for the Amiga. Let's help these guys get out of the valley and ontop the highest mountain where the Amiga really deserves to be. Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 04:26:30 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 04:26:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02160 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:26:29 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07611 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07608 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23564 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6986 invoked by alias); 25 Mar 1998 02:39:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 20652 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 02:23:56 -0000 Received: from 1cust39.tnt2.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.17.39) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 02:23:56 -0000 Message-ID: <004601bd5795$08a1b180$2711fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Keith Hill" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: 3D Amos. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:23:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: > Ok, what else do people want from a new 3D for amos, [snip].. Well, I don't think I said much on this when it was asked before, so.. Anything in the way of texture mapping, zooming bitmaps and that sort of thing as well as 3D bobs and objects (the former being stressed: -FAST-) > What are people prepared to DO to get it? > If you can't answer question two.. Heh, depends on what YOu want people to do. Anything good for me. I'm sure it'll be here soon enough (sooner being the best) either in Extension form or put into the next AMOS revision (Pietro's doing, hehe). Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 04:47:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 04:47:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA21659 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:47:49 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07624 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07621 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-21-44.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.132.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27575 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp6-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.55]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA09128 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:37:58 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:38:54 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199803242342.SAA04724@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: RE: BSDSocket MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 24-Mar-98, Ryan Watson wrote: >> show the ICQ fools that a program does not need to be 3 megs in size to do anything. >There's a port already in progress btw... forgot the URL though. But I'm >absolutely sure its already in motion. It's been in motion for months. They have a pretty GUI and no code. It's a simple comm protocol. It will take me a matter of days to release something, not months with no real results. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 05:32:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 05:32:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12322 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 05:32:58 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07629 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07626 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-21-44.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.132.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08946 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp6-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.55]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA09135 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:39:21 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:43:30 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199803242351.SAA05024@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: More MUD client questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 24-Mar-98, Ryan Watson wrote: >1. I made a VERY simple IRC thingy and it worked >the same thing and it registers nothing. What's going on??? You have got the right port data? >2.What would be the fastest way to filter out [CR] and [LF] chracters from >incoming data and instead make it go to the next line LIKE IT SHOULD but >doesn't? Ah. You have a very old version of GUI library. I bitched at Pietro about this as soon as I got to it. I'd tell you the exact fix/commands, but my stuff is currently unavailable. >3.How come the size of the GUIs I make get screwed up after I convert them. GUI's MUST be made on a 640X200 (or thereabouts, stop arguing) screen using the topaz/8 font. And they are font sensitive, unless you turn it off. >4.It seems that TCP CLOSE is very slow... it will disconnect but it takes a >long time to do so? Does it take longer if its waiting for a response from >a transfer? I never noticed that. Tcp Close is usually quite fast. >5.I think thats it... is it? Nope, you forgot several questions. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 07:24:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 07:24:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06636 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:24:15 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA08166 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA08163 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.globalserve.net (smtp2.globalserve.net [209.90.128.7]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01943 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from globalserve.net (@dialin41.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.41]) by smtp2.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA22250; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:56:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199803250556.AAA22250@smtp2.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:55:16 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: "Mr. Giark To You" Subject: RE: More MUD client questions cc: AMOS List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: On Tue, Mar 24, 1998, at 09:43 PM, Mr. Giark To You wrote: > You have got the right port data? Yep. I get the title screen and everything... and see it waiting for my name, which doesn't get sent properly... > Ah. You have a very old version of GUI library. I bitched at Pietro about > this as soon as I got to it. I'd tell you the exact fix/commands, but my > stuff is currently unavailable. I'm pretty sure its not that old. Is 1.62 an >>OLD<< version? > GUI's MUST be made on a 640X200 (or thereabouts, stop arguing) screen using > the topaz/8 font. And they are font sensitive, unless you turn it off. Hmm, the screen I was making it on was that, but it still gets shortened. > I never noticed that. Tcp Close is usually quite fast. Strange... > Nope, you forgot several questions. Heh, actually I did. Is there any way to make it so it DOES refresh if you leave the size gadget in the GUI and use it? (worded strangely, I think, but oh well) -Thanks for the feedback ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic -*Under Reconstruction*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress... I really should start accomplishing more geez... ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 17:05:09 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 17:05:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03280 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:05:08 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21361 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21354 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-21-44.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.132.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03622 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp9-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.58]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA12910 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:24:35 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:16:55 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: BSDSocket MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 24-Mar-98, Richard Griffith wrote: >A worthwhile goal indeed. I'll be glad to help anyway I can. >On the subject of UDP, the extended quote below is from Dale >Larson's Amiga Mail article on networking applications, which I had not seen this before. It seems quite useful. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 17:31:23 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 17:31:23 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18372 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:31:22 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21292 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21289 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-21-44.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.132.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06973 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp9-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.58]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA12925 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:24:59 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:21:15 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199803250556.AAA22250@smtp2.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: RE: More MUD client questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 25-Mar-98, Ryan Watson wrote: >> Ah. You have a very old version of GUI library. I bitched at Pietro about >I'm pretty sure its not that old. Is 1.62 an >>OLD<< version? It's ANCIENT! 1.62 is almost the first version of the tcp commands! >Heh, actually I did. Is there any way to make it so it DOES refresh if you >leave the size gadget in the GUI and use it? (worded strangely, I think, >but oh well) Again, that's fixed in the newer versions. You'll be happy to know you are finding all the bugs that the beta testers pointed out to Pietro. So, all your problems are fixed in later version. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 16:20:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 16:20:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29231 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:20:13 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23094 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23087 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-21-44.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.132.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12746 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp9-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.58]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA13001 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:29:18 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:29:59 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <35194959.49B9@vision.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: CBATNAM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 25-Mar-98, James Brown (Ender/Gcc) wrote: >And for the Bonus Stage, the only thing that we are really waiting on is >the Music... When? I haven't heard anything from EJ in a long time. He's Mr. Music. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 18:24:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 18:24:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11272 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:24:36 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27124 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:38:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27121 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:38:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA22985 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29122 invoked by uid 1514); 25 Mar 1998 15:37:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:37:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Matt To: Amos-List Subject: Re: extension? In-Reply-To: <1907.376T767T9082936@bahnhof.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 13 Mar 1998, Jonas Thorell wrote: > Garfield Benjamin (gbenjam@sosbbs.com) wrote: > > >> If AGE<10 > >> Print "You are less than 10 years old." > >> else if AGE=21 > >> Print "Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" > >> else > >> Print "WOW, you're OVER 21!!" > >> endif > >> Smallest, and tidiest in my humble opinion. > >> Is my approach good enough in the meantime? > > > Well, problem is this won't work. > > Yes it will. I tried it. > > >First, you need to match every If with an End If and second, the logic is not > >the same. > > Both. If and endif is coupled the same way as select ... case ... endselect > is so I can't see the problem. The logic is the same too. Select..is just > more advanced in that it offers some extra features. > > >If AGE<10 > > Print "You are less than 10 years old." > >Else If AGE=21 > > Print"Hey!! Now you can drink alcohol in the U.S.!!" > > Else If AGE>21 > > Print "WOW, you'r OVER 21!!" > > End If > > End If > >End If > > That would trigger the error-system. One if and three end-ifs is plain > wrong. > > > That being said, this might be a bit clearer (arguably the "best" > > method for AMOS) but it still lacks when compared to the > > Select...Case style. Anyway, the point is you are still looking at > > the same two basic methods, the If...End If and the If...Else...EndIf > > Yes but does it really matter? The result is what is importand and the > > if... > > else if ... > > else > > end if > > structure is quite close to the select.. syntax. > Hi, I just got to my email after a few weeks off and this is near the top of the bundle ... It's probably answered later on tho... Didn't one of the updates to Amos/Pro fix the Elseif etc prob? So although messy some older versions can only use the Second approach. I remember this change cos at the time I thought that Amos code sometimes looked ridiculous with all the indenting..... ### ### ######## ########### ########### #### #### ### ### ### ### ##!## ##!## #!# #!# #!# #!# !#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@! !@! !@! mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie !!! ! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! x x :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: \__/ ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: :: :: :: :: : : From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 03:16:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 25 03:16:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01616 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:16:10 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA07434 for amos-out; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07431 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from HYDRA.ecc.tased.edu.au (hydra.ecc.tased.edu.au [147.41.64.70]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20682 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:57:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ss1.newtown.tased.edu.au (147.41.162.36) by ecc.tased.edu.au (PMDF V5.0-3 #7406) id <01IV31GPK3QO9EHC2S@ecc.tased.edu.au> for amos-list@access.digex.net; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:56:49 +1000 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:13:45 -0500 From: "James Brown (Ender/Gcc)" Subject: Re: CBATNAM To: amos-list@access.digex.net Reply-to: ender@vision.net.au Message-id: <35194959.49B9@vision.net.au> Organization: Gcc International MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: Status: O X-Status: And for the Bonus Stage, the only thing that we are really waiting on is the Music... When? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 04:41:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 04:41:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02129 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:41:57 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11099 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11096 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA03846 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11239 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 21:39:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp19-36.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.228) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 21:39:55 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00orm; Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:18 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:18 GMT Message-Id: <9803251639.AA00orl@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] News to hand Status: O X-Status: geosync@RemoveThisPart.mail.ozemail.com.au wrote: >But before the comany completed development, Siamese managing director >Stephen Jones wrote to the Amiga faithful to say he needed 500 orders >with a down payment. > >"We have invested everything into this Amiga market, and cannot do it >any longer unless there are people who are willing to order the >product," he said. > This is the kind of shite which really pisses me off. Take the opera browser (as an example), they were gonna drop Amiga total because of "lack of monetary donations". Answer me this, who in the hell will pay 50 dollars (or close to 1500 dollars for a good wintel clone) and willingly give the bloke ther cash, knowing damn well that the system doesnt exist, hasnt been tested, never really been reviewed by anyone, and only then, might get the product providing everyone else orders it too. This is stoopid, if they dont have the capital to develop a new system, then stop begging for money, and lend it. At least that wayt we know we will getr our money back. If your product is good and strong, then you shouldnt have to worry about lending as your sales will easily be able to pay it back. Move over chumps, and come back when you have a REAL product you can sell IMMEDIATELY. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 04:09:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 04:09:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14857 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:09:25 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11058 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11046 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA15333 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11222 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 21:39:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp19-36.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.228) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 21:39:53 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00orr; Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:22 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:22 GMT Message-Id: <9803251639.AA00orq@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] More MUD client questions Status: O X-Status: Ryan Watson wrote: >3.How come the size of the GUIs I make get screwed up after I convert them. >For example I made a GUI in the EXACT same resolution as my main workbench >and I had it go across the whole screen, and after I converted it to a bank >and 'GUI OPEN'ed it up, it took I'd say 7/8ths across to be specific. WHY? Are you using the GUI SENSITIVE command on or off? You should also make the GUI in a PAL:Hires screen mode, so that you can align ity up correctly. I personally use a 640x400 screenmode to make them, but some people get sizing problems when converting their GUI`s. > >4.It seems that TCP CLOSE is very slow... it will disconnect but it takes a >long time to do so? Does it take longer if its waiting for a response from >a transfer? Also an answer to the above questions. Are you using the A=Gui Wait to actually see if you have any TCP information waiting to come in? It sounds like the method that you are using isnt too bright. Sit down,m and go through the code again. Alternatively, wait till the new GUI extension comes out very soon, as their is a whole new, fully documented, TCP command guide, along with plenty of examples. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 04:22:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 04:22:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA17988 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:22:37 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11094 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11089 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07828 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11249 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 21:39:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp19-36.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.228) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 21:39:58 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00orw; Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:25 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:25 GMT Message-Id: <9803251639.AA00orv@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] RE: BSDSocket Status: O X-Status: "Mr. Giark To You" wrote: >It's been in motion for months. They have a pretty GUI and no code. It's a >simple comm protocol. It will take me a matter of days to release something, >not months with no real results. If it was just a simple case of this, the Amiga ICQ port would have been finished months ago. The reason the Mirabilis server is so complex, is because their isnt really a home server in which the program thwe user is running connects to. It uses every member who is online with the server, to distribute its data around to everyone else, thus cutting down on megs and megs and megs of data a minute the master server has to distribute. Because there are so many users online, you`d probably not even notice the modem activity. Its a bloody ingenious syetem of operation, and until you get the specs then you are pretty much screwed. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 04:55:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 04:55:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA29801 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:55:15 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11053 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11044 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA16290 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11263 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 21:40:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp19-36.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.228) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 21:40:00 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00os1; Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:29 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:29 GMT Message-Id: <9803251639.AA00os0@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Re: BSDSocket Status: O X-Status: "Mr. Giark To You" wrote: >I'm not ashamed to say I'll need help with this stuff. I'm going to port ICQ >for Amiga. I've already got people working on captures of the ICQ sessions, so >all it will take is a bit of programming skill (which I have). I'll be doing >the notifiy, message and chat functions (All I want out of it) and then I'll >release the code to all you slavering dogs to add more to it. Q8-{) I want to >show the ICQ fools that a program does not need to be 3 megs in size to do >anything. Dont even bother. Im not telling you that you shouldnt, only how in the hell are you going to get mirabilis to give you the statistics for using their protocol - especially after you will be giving the classified information away for free!! The official coders of ICQ have completely finished their GUI coding in MUI and classact, and cannot get mirabilis to hurry along to give them the protocol information even though they have already submitted to signing a disclosure agreement. I started programming the AmILC project a while ago using a protocol I designed, which I might start up again now the TCP commands in the GUI extension have gotten better. Its not easy, especiually guessing someone else`s sever. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:51:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:51:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04746 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:51:14 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA10994 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10987 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA26326 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11216 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 21:39:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp19-36.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.228) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 21:39:51 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00os6; Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:32 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:32 GMT Message-Id: <9803251639.AA00os5@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Amiga Emulators for the PC Status: O X-Status: Peter Clark wrote: >Hi all, >Please please please can someone tell me about bloody Amiga emulators >for the PC. I've looked into them and found some interesting one. Can >someone possibly tell me about them and please please please give me an >A500+ version of Kickstart. Please Get UAE, its the best Ami emulator out there. Giving the roms around is illegal, there is a program which comes with it so you can snapshot your own ROM to put on disk and run with the emulator. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:55:23 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:55:23 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00893 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:55:22 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11068 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11060 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA08752 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11282 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 21:40:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp19-36.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.228) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 21:40:02 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00osb; Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:36 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:36 GMT Message-Id: <9803251639.AA00osa@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Re[2]: Extensionlists.. Status: O X-Status: Jens Vang Petersen wrote: >I thought about returning to one big listing, but that would sure be big, when >I gave it up the first time I had two lists (TC and PRO) each of more than >50 Kb, so I guess people with slow servers would not like me very much, besides >it's easier to update when it's split into little pieces :).. Instead of doing big lists/tables why dont yuou just make a list similar to the email you sent to the list, and give each extension a seperate page, that way you can go into detail about whaty the extension can do, commands (if you have a list) etc. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:05:40 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:05:39 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06547 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:05:39 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11085 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11081 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05362 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11292 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 21:40:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp19-36.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.228) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 21:40:05 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00osg; Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:39 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 16:39:39 GMT Message-Id: <9803251639.AA00osf@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] f1-113 aga extension Status: O X-Status: fernando Bartra wrote: >id like to get some specs on the aga extension, >like what are screen limits/colors/dimensions, > The extension does nothing much more than display AGA screens. The extension was pulled from the F1 collection because the chap who wrote it could not be bothered to update it and bring it into competition with things like the GUI Extension. In my honest opinion, you will be much better off with the GUI Extension. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:22:33 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:22:33 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00448 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:22:33 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24251 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:09:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24248 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-21-44.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.132.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22642 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:09:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA14607 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:01:46 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:06:34 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <980.388T1087T194868@flashnet.it> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: BSDSocket MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 24-Mar-98, Michele Berionne wrote: >Before even starting it, Too late. >get a look at: www.mcmedia.com.au/amigaicq/ >It could be interesting!! :-))) I'll have a look. >They are already making a port of ICQ to Amiga platform. And they've been doing it for months with no friggin' results! >I think there's a problem of copyright. Good luck copyrighting freeware. > I'm not really sure about it, you >can find on the web page above. I'll see what they have to say. > Anyway, ICQ uses a not public code. I know and I've already got that figured out. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 02:49:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 02:49:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09109 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:49:03 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24405 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24401 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-21-44.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.132.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19616 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:11:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA14617 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:04:36 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:10:09 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: .fd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: No one answered last time. Can you take parts of different .fd listings and put them into one file to make an extension of the commands you like? Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:34:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:34:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09494 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:34:11 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA26534 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26531 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-21-44.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.132.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19780 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA14677 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:14:49 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:20:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: ICQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Okay, I went to the mcmedia icq page. It's the same crap that they've had there for months. Other than an UGLY mui gui, they have done nothing. First off, I will NOT be using gawdawful mui for anything I do - ever! Second of all, I will not be showing people pretty interfaces for months on end. As soon as I get the info from my sources, I will be releasing a beta version that WORKS! I'm so tired of these lame groups that pretend to put out amiga products when all they are really doing is wasting our time. I will put out a version, for amiga users, under 500k, called FTN (you figure it out). I know this isn't exactly AMOS related, but it is. Most of the people on the list actually release programs, rather than just talking them up. Once I've got the functions of ICQ that I want, I'll release my code to anyone who wants to continue development. Hell, I might even sell it to Mirabilis. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:29:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 03:29:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01094 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:29:05 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22349 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22344 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:11:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.globalserve.net (smtp1.globalserve.net [209.90.144.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13999 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:11:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from globalserve.net (@dialin10.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.10]) by smtp1.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA09205 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:13:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199803260013.TAA09205@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:12:26 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: AMOS List Subject: GUI extension Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Okay, where can I FIND a newer version of the GUI extension? I checked JVPs page and it says 1.62 there too. ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic -*Under Reconstruction*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress... I really should start accomplishing more geez... ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 05:00:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 05:00:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00614 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:00:35 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA24845 for amos-out; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA24842 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06175 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16369 invoked by alias); 26 Mar 1998 02:11:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 16326 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1998 02:11:19 -0000 Received: from 1cust226.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.226) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 1998 02:11:19 -0000 Message-ID: <003101bd585c$6bebe860$e210fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Amos Mail Post" Cc: "Mr. Giark to You" , "Keith Hill" , "Garfield Benjamin" , "Andrew Kellett" Subject: Parrottsoft website poser. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:07:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings melads. Being on Spring Break, I've been taking the time to do some much needed things, i.e. mIRC scripting and website things. I've also been looking for various perks I can add to it (such as redirective URLs, new counters, etc) In regard to layouts and such, I ask you the following: For those that have visited the site (whether some or alot) in the past, what did you think of it? Were the graphics and layout pleasing? Did it take too long to load? Did any of you use the Java-enabled and high-traffic pages? What would you do different or would like to see improved and/or added? (Please take careful note to the last question). Basically, I wanted to gather some input as to it's new design before doing any updating on it this week. I don't plan on changing too many graphics (except for a few buttons and such), and in general the motif (fonts, colors, styling, etc.) will remain the same, but I AM going to change the layout of the main page and additional areas (as well as adding some once-planned zones). If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to mail me (soon if possible). Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 11:37:32 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 11:37:31 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13781 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:37:31 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA29894 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29891 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.utu.fi (mailhost.utu.fi [130.232.1.5]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13360 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:29:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by utu.fi with SMTP id <8872-28800>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:29:05 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:29:05 +0200 (EET) Sender: samali@utu.fi From: Sasu Lintula To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Fast drawing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi folks, Could you help me with these questions: 1. How fast is Turboplus' F Draw command? 2. Does it get faster when you use compiler? SLin From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 23:49:41 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 23:49:40 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25673 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:49:40 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26571 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26567 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05091 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1207 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1998 19:07:08 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 26 Mar 1998 19:07:08 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.2]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB43050; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:07:06 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Ryan Watson , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:44:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199803260013.TAA09205@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: GUI extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 26-Mar-98, Ryan Watson smashed the keyboard with: > Okay, where can I FIND a newer version of the GUI extension? I checked JVPs > page and it says 1.62 there too. I've heard so much about a new version for the last months, but I've not seen ANY public version of it yet, so that's why I've listed the GUI extension as V1.62 as the newest... -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 20:28:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 20:28:13 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17481 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:28:12 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07299 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07296 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco8-182.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.182]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29107 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA21890 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:12:40 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:07:45 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9803251639.AA00orv@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: BSDSocket MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 25-Mar-98, Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett wrote: >bloody ingenious syetem of operation, and until you get the specs then >you are pretty much screwed. Just so. That's why I've got people working on the protocols for me as we speak. Consider the CBATNAM project; I can pull off the seemingly impossible (SCSI controller is on the way!) Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 20:35:45 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 20:35:45 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18364 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:35:44 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07324 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07321 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco8-182.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.182]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23542 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA21899 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:12:51 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:10:20 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: GUI Ext MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 25-Mar-98, Rod Whiteley wrote: >How do I get a hold of a version somewhat less ancient than my creaking and >groaning v1.62? You should be able to get 1.65 (or 1.67) from Mush's home pages. (1.67 may have been a beta only release) Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 19:11:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 19:11:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26438 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:11:23 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07345 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07340 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco8-182.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.182]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26669 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:19:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA21905 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:13:01 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:11:03 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199803260013.TAA09205@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: GUI extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 25-Mar-98, Ryan Watson wrote: >Okay, where can I FIND a newer version of the GUI extension? I checked JVPs >page and it says 1.62 there too. Mush should have 1.65 at his site for you. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 20:32:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 20:32:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04333 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:32:01 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07529 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07526 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:25:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco8-182.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.182]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02374 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA22088 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:18:49 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:24:51 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199803260949.UAA11122@saturn.vision.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: ICQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 26-Mar-98, James Brown (Ender/Gcc) wrote: >write a program compatible with the ICQ network of what? Yes. It won't be easy, but I won't give up until the actual code defeats me, not just because some others tell me it might be hard. > Or is this >just the same sort of program? Writing the `same sort of program' has been the bane of Amiga net utils. The ibm side has a huge user base and we need programs that are compatible, not similar. (Not an attack on you, JB.) Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 23:17:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 23:17:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA22167 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:17:13 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21748 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21745 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19984 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:08:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from p09-duck-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.60.189]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAB13131 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:08:28 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 26 Mar 98 16:51:21 +0000 Subject: GUI Compiler Message-Id: <351A8789.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: One non-amos thing first... Anyone knwo a good place on the net to sell second hand AMIGA hardware? [Its a Surf Squirrel, never used, 50 pounds if you're interested :) ] Now the AMOS thing... I've just been trying to use the GUI compiler and I think its either an old version or uses some extension that I haven't got cos it's puts wierd characters in places and stupid commands here and there. Could someone please send me either an up to date version or one saved in ASCII so I can see what I'm missing? Its just the GuiShell.AMOS that I need. Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 00:37:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 00:37:13 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06620 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:37:12 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21753 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21750 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:08:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20598 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from p09-duck-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.60.189]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAC13131 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:08:29 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 26 Mar 98 16:58:25 +0000 Subject: Shareware Message-Id: <351A8931.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: When one of the rare occasions comes along that I decide NOT to give my game/utility away on aminet for free, I'm always a bit undecided about how to go about it. The simple demo version and then register for a key file is what I did with Backbone (but loads of people had trouble running it - I can only assume its down to AMOS bugs cos I have no troubles - I'd be grateful if anyone out there would give dev/misc/backbone a go to see if they know what the problem is!) and it did ok but I wonder if the F1 route would be better. It would be more hassle for me, and less money per copy sold but would I actually reach more users??? Can someone (probably Mush) give me an indication of the sorts of numbers sold from an average F1 title compared with the average registrations someone gets if doing it on their own? Yeah, anyway, Backbone! Someone PLEASE take a look and let me know whether it works/crashes or what cos I've know idea why some people find it OK and others can't get anywhere with it. It appears to have nothing to do with machine/memory/processor etc. Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 23:27:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 23:27:17 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25666 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:27:17 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21758 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21755 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17489 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from p09-duck-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.60.189]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAD13131 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:08:31 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 26 Mar 98 17:02:25 +0000 Subject: GUI again Message-Id: <351A8A20.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: I thought the newest GUI extension release should have been out by now? Have I missed it or is it just been delayed a bit? Its something I'm really looking forward to using. There was an idea suggested about a year ago on the list about a Installation Program creator. (You know, a GUI to create a script used in commodores Installer program). Thats something I think would be VERY useful and would like to take it up using the new GUI extension whens its out... BUT I don't really know the syntax etc. of the installer scripts. Does anyone know where I can get some docs or information on how to make installer scripts? Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 00:21:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 00:21:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11160 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:21:01 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26577 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26572 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21709 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1272 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1998 19:07:19 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 26 Mar 1998 19:07:19 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.2]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAD43050; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:07:13 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:37:26 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9803251639.AA00osa@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: Extensionlists.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 25-Mar-98, Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett smashed the keyboard with: > Instead of doing big lists/tables why dont yuou just make a list > similar to the email you sent to the list, and give each extension a > seperate page, that way you can go into detail about whaty the > extension can do, commands (if you have a list) etc. That's just how it is now, the problem is browsers running with a free height of less than 180, they have trouble displaying the menu I have in a frameset at the top+buttom of the screen.. This proberly ends up with adding a no-frames version of my homepage in the near future.. Ehh, what's a 'yuou' ?? -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The computer is mightier than the pen, the sword, and usually, the programmer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 12:40:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 26 12:40:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09567 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:40:57 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA29839 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29836 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:49:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from saturn.vision.net.au (saturn.vision.net.au [203.17.23.11]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22803 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:49:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ender.vision.net.au (p11.hbt-ts.vision.net.au [203.17.245.43]) by saturn.vision.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA11122 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:49:05 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199803260949.UAA11122@saturn.vision.net.au> From: "James Brown (Ender/Gcc)" Organization: GCC Int, Tasmania To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:49:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: ICQ Reply-to: ender@vision.net.au Priority: normal In-reply-to: Status: O X-Status: I might have missed something here, but are you planning to acually write a program compatible with the ICQ network of what? Or is this just the same sort of program? > Okay, I went to the mcmedia icq page. It's the same crap that they've had > there for months. Other than an UGLY mui gui, they have done nothing. First > off, I will NOT be using gawdawful mui for anything I do - ever! Second of > all, I will not be showing people pretty interfaces for months on end. As soon > as I get the info from my sources, I will be releasing a beta version that > WORKS! > > I'm so tired of these lame groups that pretend to put out amiga products when > all they are really doing is wasting our time. I will put out a version, for > amiga users, under 500k, called FTN (you figure it out). > > I know this isn't exactly AMOS related, but it is. Most of the people on the > list actually release programs, rather than just talking them up. > > Once I've got the functions of ICQ that I want, I'll release my code to anyone > who wants to continue development. Hell, I might even sell it to Mirabilis. Regards, James Brown - Ender/Gcc - Ender@vision.net.au -- Team *AMOS*, Http://Endergcc.home.ml.org - Fido: 3:670/213.42 -- IAPA, GCC Int. Programming: CBATNAM, Yeerk Pool 7 and Extreme Doom -- My ICQ: 7823451 ------------------------------------------------------------- "No ma'am. We at the FBI don't have a sense of humor that we're aware of." -- Kay, Men In Black From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 16:13:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 16:13:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20633 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:13:24 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25473 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:09:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25470 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:09:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08267 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6509 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 17:09:09 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk (194.239.134.174) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 17:09:09 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk ([194.239.152.13]) by post10.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA58616; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:09:08 +0100 From: Rune Zedeler To: Jonas Thorell CC: AMOS List Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:21:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2703.377T1052T9123333@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: AP and A1.3 compatible (Was: Extension) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id MAA25471 Status: O X-Status: On 14-Mar-98, Jonas Thorell wrote: [Else If - structure] >Didn't Europress claim that Pro was a 100% compatible to classic, beside the >extensions? Well, it isn't apparently. Yes it is. You just have to type some extra spaces when editing. The folowing typing _will_ work in APro: ifa=10 ?"a=10" else ifa=20 ?"a=20" endif endif But the following typing will _not_ work in APro: ifa=10 ?"a=10" elseifa=20 ?"a=20" endif endif I know that the result will look just the same in the editor, but in the first example "else" and "if" are tokenized individually, and in the second example they are tokenized together (to "else if") -- /¯\ __ __ /¯¯¯¯¯\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \¯-_ Peter Rørdams Vej 19 \ / //¯| \\/ ||¯\ \\¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯-_ 2800 Lyngby ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / ¯¯¯¯¯\\|\-'/ /¯¯¯¯¯ \\____________ _-¯ ¯¯¯¯¯\------'/||¯¯| \------'/ /_-¯ rzedeler@post10.tele.dk ¯¯¯¯¯¯\-'/ \-'/¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯ Tel: +45-45871730 ¯¯ ¯¯ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 16:01:45 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 16:01:45 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22801 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:01:45 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25478 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25475 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:09:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13788 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17083 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 17:09:12 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk (194.239.134.174) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 17:09:12 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk ([194.239.152.13]) by post10.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB58616; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:09:10 +0100 From: Rune Zedeler To: "Rand R. Fredricksen" CC: AMOS List Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:29:47 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2554.378T146T1282795@netwave.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: extension? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id MAA25476 Status: O X-Status: On 15-Mar-98, Rand R. Fredricksen wrote: >On X Goto _Hello,_Goodbye Or even better: Trap Gosub "_"+X$ if Errtrap Print "I don't understand a thing, dummy!" End If End _Hello: Print "Hello right back, Buddy!!!" Return _Goodbye: Print "Ok, seeya!!!" Return -- /¯\ __ __ /¯¯¯¯¯\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \¯-_ Peter Rørdams Vej 19 \ / //¯| \\/ ||¯\ \\¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯-_ 2800 Lyngby ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / ¯¯¯¯¯\\|\-'/ /¯¯¯¯¯ \\____________ _-¯ ¯¯¯¯¯\------'/||¯¯| \------'/ /_-¯ rzedeler@post10.tele.dk ¯¯¯¯¯¯\-'/ \-'/¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯ Tel: +45-45871730 ¯¯ ¯¯ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 01:17:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 01:17:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17422 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:17:15 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26557 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26554 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29698 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11200 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1998 19:07:06 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 26 Mar 1998 19:07:06 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.2]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA43050; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:07:02 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: "Mr. Giark To You" , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:40:54 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: .fd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 25-Mar-98, Mr. Giark To You smashed the keyboard with: > No one answered last time. Can you take parts of different .fd listings and > put them into one file to make an extension of the commands you like? Simple answer: In theory, yes.. REAL LIFE: NO... Also, you can't cut unused commands out, that'll destroy the calls.. FD files makeup is based on an initial 'basis' adress, and then it's simply a list of the commands in a 'jump-table' form. Each worth 6 bytes.. Example: exec.library has an offsetbase of -30 so that's the offset to the first function in the library, the next is then located in -36 and so on, so by cutting and pasting in the listing the line would be broken.. -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed. -- Carolyn Scheppner ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 00:52:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 00:52:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09734 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:52:29 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26586 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26583 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29505 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1298 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1998 19:07:25 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 26 Mar 1998 19:07:25 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.2]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAF43050; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:07:22 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Sasu Lintula , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:05:00 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: Fast drawing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 26-Mar-98, Sasu Lintula smashed the keyboard with: > 1. How fast is Turboplus' F Draw command? Can't remember what the docs say, but as I recall it uses about 25% of the time used by a normal draw.. > 2. Does it get faster when you use compiler? Yes it does, but an ordinary draw also get's faster, so a comparison of the two ends up about the same compiled (Still the 25% noted before).. NOTE: This is more a 'feeling' than an actual test, but it's something like this. You can just make a test, have AMOS draw a number times with 'Draw' then do the same drawing with 'F Draw' and use the timer to test the speed, that way you can also check differences on various screen-modes.. -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 01:20:30 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 01:20:30 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17170 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:20:30 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00519 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:39:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00516 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:39:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [195.8.135.242]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15657 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.201]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA26158; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:33:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-1c-1-6.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.144.71]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA28970; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:33:36 +0100 (CET) From: Palle Anker Larsen Reply-To: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk To: "Mr. Giark To You" , Amos-List Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:26:43 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Subject: Re[2]: GUI extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Den 26-Mar-98 skrev Mr. Giark To You: MGTY> On 25-Mar-98, Ryan Watson wrote: MGTY> > Okay, where can I FIND a newer version of the GUI extension? I checked JVPs MGTY> > page and it says 1.62 there too. MGTY> MGTY> Mush should have 1.65 at his site for you. Are you sure???, 1.62 was the latest public release, versions over 1.62 was/is beta, right???, and the next public will probably be v1.70, but then again I could be wrong but I doubt it :) -- Best Wishes Palle. I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. -- Winston Churchill From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:35:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:35:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00606 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:35:04 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08022 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08019 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00437 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13324 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 00:31:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-40.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.168) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 00:31:17 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00osl; Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:20 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:20 GMT Message-Id: <9803261930.AA00osk@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] BSDSocket Status: O X-Status: "Mr. Giark To You" wrote: >Just so. That's why I've got people working on the protocols for me as we >speak. > How are they gonna get the info unless they worked on the PC version? They cant just give you the info, as they signed disclosure agreements. >Consider the CBATNAM project; I can pull off the seemingly impossible (SCSI >controller is on the way!) > Yeah, good to begin with, complete stop for a few months, trickled restart ;) No offense meant! Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:17:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:17:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29847 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:17:00 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08017 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08014 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17846 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13195 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 00:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-40.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.168) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 00:31:04 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00osq; Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:23 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:23 GMT Message-Id: <9803261930.AA00osp@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Re: ICQ Status: O X-Status: "James Brown (Ender/Gcc)" wrote: >I might have missed something here, but are you planning to acually >write a program compatible with the ICQ network of what? Or is this >just the same sort of program? > If he writes a version, i doubt it will be compatible with the PC version in any way, the protocols and server data are just too complicated tio figure out without specifics. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:44:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:44:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25265 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:44:57 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08000 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07994 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05836 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13241 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 00:31:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-40.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.168) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 00:31:08 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00osv; Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:27 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:27 GMT Message-Id: <9803261930.AA00osu@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Parrottsoft website poser. Status: O X-Status: "Adam Parrott" wrote: >Greetings melads. > >Being on Spring Break, I've been taking the time to do some much needed >things, i.e. mIRC scripting and website things. I've also been looking for >various perks I can add to it (such as redirective URLs, new counters, etc) > >In regard to layouts and such, I ask you the following: For those that >have visited the site (whether some or alot) in the past, what did you >think of it? Were the graphics and layout pleasing? Did it take too long >to load? Did any of you use the Java-enabled and high-traffic pages? What >would you do different or would like to see improved and/or added? (Please >take careful note to the last question). Basically, I wanted to gather some >input as to it's new design before doing any updating on it this week. > >I don't plan on changing too many graphics (except for a few buttons and >such), and in general the motif (fonts, colors, styling, etc.) will remain >the same, but I AM going to change the layout of the main page and >additional areas (as well as adding some once-planned zones). If you have >any questions or comments, please feel free to mail me (soon if possible). > Use smaller images (sizewise) and more text. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:51:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:51:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18990 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:51:08 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08007 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08004 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00307 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13260 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 00:31:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-40.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.168) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 00:31:11 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00ot0; Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:32 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:32 GMT Message-Id: <9803261930.AA00osz@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] ICQ Status: O X-Status: "Mr. Giark To You" wrote: >Okay, I went to the mcmedia icq page. It's the same crap that they've had >there for months. Other than an UGLY mui gui, they have done nothing. First >off, I will NOT be using gawdawful mui for anything I do - ever! Second of >all, I will not be showing people pretty interfaces for months on end. As soon >as I get the info from my sources, I will be releasing a beta version that >WORKS! > 1. They have a MUI *AND* a classact GUI interface, both of which look very nice. 2. What info are you actually trying to retreive? SAerver info? operational info? >I'm so tired of these lame groups that pretend to put out amiga products when >all they are really doing is wasting our time. I will put out a version, for >amiga users, under 500k, called FTN (you figure it out). > This version from the mcmedia page IS NOT a fake, they have been working with the creators of ICQ (former Amiga users, i might add) to get the server information. Without this, they cannot progress any further, as the protocol is so complex it is beyond regular servers. Just how the hell do you intend to get this to work - especially as you dont have a PC version to work with? There are no server names, port names, plus, how the feck are you going to get it to log ion correctly - if you have no damn clue WTF it is looking for/sending every time it pings. Im sorry giark, but im afraid you`ll not get any further than a GUI unless you have some server specs. You have to remember, this package communicates with other ICQ users instead of relying on the server all the time, so good luck. I can tell you from my AmILC experience, even a basic server is NOT easy to work with whatsoever. >I know this isn't exactly AMOS related, but it is. Most of the people on the >list actually release programs, rather than just talking them up. > >Once I've got the functions of ICQ that I want, I'll release my code to anyone >who wants to continue development. Hell, I might even sell it to Mirabilis. > Dont release it! Mirabilis will come down on you like a tonne of bricks. Do you honestly think they will let someone release freeware source code into the net that can seriously open up security risks to every single user on the ICQ network? Think about it, you can send and receive files, so whats to stop someone sending everyone a virus, or even worst, starting to delete files. Before releasing it - get a good lawyer, you`ll need it. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 02:36:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 02:36:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA22260 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 02:36:48 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08002 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07997 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA27155 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13222 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 00:31:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-40.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.168) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 00:31:06 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00ot5; Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:35 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:35 GMT Message-Id: <9803261930.AA00ot4@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] GUI extension Status: O X-Status: Ryan Watson wrote: >Okay, where can I FIND a newer version of the GUI extension? I checked JVPs >page and it says 1.62 there too. V1.62 was the last released version of the extension. A newer, V1.70 will be released very soon. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:11:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:11:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25493 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:11:34 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08012 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08009 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18349 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13288 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 00:31:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-40.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.168) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 00:31:14 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00ota; Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:39 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:39 GMT Message-Id: <9803261930.AA00ot9@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] .fd Status: O X-Status: "Mr. Giark To You" wrote: >No one answered last time. Can you take parts of different .fd listings and >put them into one file to make an extension of the commands you like? > Unless it knows what library it is using, you have no chance. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:14:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 03:14:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA26701 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:14:57 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08027 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08024 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA09644 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13309 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 00:31:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-40.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.168) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 00:31:15 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00otf; Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:42 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:30:42 GMT Message-Id: <9803261930.AA00ote@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Re: BSDSocket Status: O X-Status: "Mr. Giark To You" wrote: >>I think there's a problem of copyright. > >Good luck copyrighting freeware. > The program, when they finish it, will be freeware, as is the PC version. The massive problem you will face is mirabilis coming down on you like a tonne of bricks when you release their server protocols into freeware. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 02:32:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 02:32:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08968 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 02:32:11 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA07279 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07276 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25417 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-53.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-53.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.117]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA15062 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:34:13 +0100 (MET) Date: 27 Mar 98 00:30:18 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: GUI again To: "Alastair Murray" In-Reply-To: <351A8A20.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: <885.390T933T303110@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Alastair Murray (malcolm.murray@virgin.net) wrote: >Thats something I think would be VERY useful and would like to take it >up using the new GUI extension whens its out... BUT I don't really >know the syntax etc. of the installer scripts. Does anyone know where >I can get some docs or information on how to make installer scripts? Try: util/misc/installer-43_3.lha (official installer package with tutorial scripts) --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- Windows support telepathy (think of a systemcrash and you get one) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 01:27:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 01:27:17 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA20055 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:27:17 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA07315 for amos-out; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07312 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA15438 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28223 invoked by alias); 26 Mar 1998 23:36:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 28207 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1998 23:36:34 -0000 Received: from 1cust37.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.37) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 1998 23:36:34 -0000 Message-ID: <001901bd5910$1516b380$2510fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Sasu Lintula" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: Fast drawing Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:37:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Assim como é todos? > 1. How fast is Turboplus' F Draw command? > 2. Does it get faster when you use compiler? How fast is it? It's fast, but not fast enough. Speed is appreciable, but I would recommend AMCAF's Turbo Draw for slightly faster drawing. Does it get faster when you compile? Eh, yes, somewhat (most cmds do). Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 11:35:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 11:35:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28032 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:35:07 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14498 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:26:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14495 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:26:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA18482 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13463 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 13:27:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-13.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.141) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 13:27:41 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00otk; Fri, 27 Mar 98 08:25:09 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 08:25:09 GMT Message-Id: <9803270825.AA00otj@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] GUI again Status: O X-Status: "Alastair Murray" wrote: >I thought the newest GUI extension release should have been out by >now? > >Have I missed it or is it just been delayed a bit? >Its something I'm really looking forward to using. > >There was an idea suggested about a year ago on the list about a >Installation Program creator. (You know, a GUI to create a script used >in commodores Installer program). >Thats something I think would be VERY useful and would like to take it >up using the new GUI extension whens its out... BUT I don't really >know the syntax etc. of the installer scripts. Does anyone know where >I can get some docs or information on how to make installer scripts? > Im doing my best to get the docs done (fuc*&%$ power computing UK) on this shitty PC, and emailing them to myself and adding bits and pieces etc. but writing Amigaguide on a PC isnt too easy =/ As for the extension itself, im not even sure if pietro is near a newer release, the beta he sent me last week has been untested as I have no keyboard =/ Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 10:15:32 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 10:15:32 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16113 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:15:32 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14493 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14490 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA25979 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:26:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13456 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 13:27:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-13.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.141) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 13:27:39 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00otp; Fri, 27 Mar 98 08:25:13 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 08:25:13 GMT Message-Id: <9803270825.AA00oto@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] GUI Compiler Status: O X-Status: "Alastair Murray" wrote: >One non-amos thing first... >Anyone knwo a good place on the net to sell second hand AMIGA >hardware? [Its a Surf Squirrel, never used, 50 pounds if you're >interested :) ] > try comp.sys.amiga.hardware or comp.sys.amiga.marketplace >Now the AMOS thing... > >I've just been trying to use the GUI compiler and I think its either >an old version or uses some extension that I haven't got cos it's puts >wierd characters in places and stupid commands here and there. > >Could someone please send me either an up to date version or one saved >in ASCII so I can see what I'm missing? >Its just the GuiShell.AMOS that I need. > Its probably the fact that you are running the AMCAF version of the shell. Simply grab the extension archive and get the 2 seperate versions. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 08:49:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 08:49:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21451 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:49:00 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA12098 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:16:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12095 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:16:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.utu.fi (mailhost.utu.fi [130.232.1.5]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06923 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:15:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by utu.fi with SMTP id <9062-28840>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:15:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:15:14 +0200 (EET) Sender: samali@utu.fi From: Sasu Lintula To: Lee cc: Amos Mail Post Subject: Re: Amos Robots? In-Reply-To: <1A72ED777AF@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Lee wrote: > After playing with CRobots for a year or two, As I was washing my > hair last night (Things often pop into my head when I'm doing nothing > inparticular) I thought I would write Amos Robots. > Is there any interest? > For those who dont know, all you do is write a program which > basically controls a robot. You run your program allong with others > and see which program wins. Strange... Couple days ago I had a flashback of tank game in which you could control your tank by using small a kind of basic listings. I started to make a list of possible commands that could be used in that kind of game. I don't know anything about CRobot, but the idea sounds familiar to me. Just do it, Lee! SLin From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 05:38:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 05:38:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA02651 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:38:12 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA11539 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:47:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11536 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA28944 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:41:04 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 27 Mar 98 08:48:09 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 27 Mar 98 08:47:43 GMT+0 From: Lee Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: Amos Mail Post Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:47:02 GMT+0 Subject: Amos Robots? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <1A72ED777AF@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: After playing with CRobots for a year or two, As I was washing my hair last night (Things often pop into my head when I'm doing nothing inparticular) I thought I would write Amos Robots. Is there any interest? For those who dont know, all you do is write a program which basically controls a robot. You run your program allong with others and see which program wins. ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Its just a big egg pie! ________________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 15:12:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 15:12:13 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15686 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:12:13 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20123 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20120 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco10-101.cas.golden.net [209.29.14.101]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23405 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA22281 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:36:14 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:55:02 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <351A8A20.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: GUI again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 26-Mar-98, Alastair Murray wrote: >I thought the newest GUI extension release should have been out by >now? Pietro is sort of busy, what with decoding the AMOS Pro source. Q8-{) >Have I missed it or is it just been delayed a bit? It will be out soon, since Mush is just wrapping up the docs for it. >I can get some docs or information on how to make installer scripts? It's brutal. Just remember to include the version of installer you wrote the script for. C= installer is the worst for version compatibility I've ever seen. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 16:54:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 16:54:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17836 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:54:00 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20130 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20127 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco10-101.cas.golden.net [209.29.14.101]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13451 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA22292 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:36:34 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:58:03 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Re[2]: GUI extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 26-Mar-98, Palle Anker Larsen wrote: >MGTY> Mush should have 1.65 at his site for you. >Are you sure???, Yes. No. Maybe. I'm all tied in knots over this. I know I had 1.65, and I think I had 1.67 for a while, too. that's the problem with being a beta tester - you forget what was the last public release. >1.62 was the latest public release, versions over 1.62 was/is beta, right???, >and the >next public will probably be v1.70, but then again I could be wrong but I >doubt it :) 1.70 will be out soon; just hang in there. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 17:57:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 17:57:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18765 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:57:13 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20139 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20134 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco10-101.cas.golden.net [209.29.14.101]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17383 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA22306 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:36:53 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:00:52 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9803261930.AA00osk@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: BSDSocket MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 26-Mar-98, Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett wrote: >How are they gonna get the info unless they worked on the PC version? There are more ways to get info than reading a doc file. >They cant just give you the info, as they signed disclosure >agreements. No one I talk to has signed any silly agreements. >Yeah, good to begin with, complete stop for a few months, trickled >restart ;) No offense meant! Well, had I not lost my SCSI access... (old story, heard often) Still, I haven't seen anyone else able to pull off a project like that. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 17:14:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 17:14:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17611 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:14:23 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA27737 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27734 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from bianca.scs.com.br (bianca.scs.com.br [200.231.154.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19364 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:19:01 -0500 (EST) From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br Received: from tecnopro.com.br.tecnopro.com.br (ras3 [200.231.154.32]) by bianca.scs.com.br (8.8.5/SCO5) with SMTP id PAA10758 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:19:53 -0300 (EST) From(scs.com.br): erico@www.tecnopro.com.br Message-Id: <199803271819.PAA10758@bianca.scs.com.br> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:01:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: amos Robotssss Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Status: O X-Status: I was thinking of it too these days... ... like I remember one old game on the apple commputers that you were this little guy that would go into robots and built circuit to make it moves , it would have bumpers(to detect bumos) and four trusters a periscope and a hand. some places you had to control the robot from inside only (you have 3 or 4 ones I can't remember) You could also build chips like go into it and built a circuit inside with the same outside tools , well can't remember the name of the game ... Excellent idea anyway , do it , say something if help needed somewhere... Also could somebody remind the name of the game to me? I can download from some net place a rom (apple rom) or something... ciau ----------------------------------------------------------- Ahoy! You got this from Erico Monteiro Email: erico@tecnopro.com.br Work Url: www.tecnopro.com.br Barca Furada Url: www.angelfire.com/ak/gamecreation "If you can't find me or encounter any problem... ...call the president" ----------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 14:00:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 14:00:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03239 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:00:22 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20156 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20153 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco10-101.cas.golden.net [209.29.14.101]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26605 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA22329 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:37:08 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:28:12 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9803261930.AA00osp@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: ICQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 26-Mar-98, Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett wrote: >If he writes a version, i doubt it will be compatible with the PC You doubt the wrong person. >version in any way, the protocols and server data are just too >complicated tio figure out without specifics. Try me. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From nop10942@mail.telepac.pt Fri Mar 27 05:58:05 1998 >From nop10942@mail.telepac.pt Fri Mar 27 05:58:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17854 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:58:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: from mail.telepac.pt (venus.telepac.pt [194.65.3.39]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11931 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:58:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from host ([194.65.228.210]) by mail.telepac.pt (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 584-40066L0S0) with SMTP id AAA13629 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:53:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01bd59b2$91d75120$d2e441c2@host.telepac.pt> Reply-To: "Marco A.G.Pinto" From: "Marco A.G.Pinto" To: Subject: RADAR Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:59:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BD596F.5DDABC60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3007.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3007.0 Status: O X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BD596F.5DDABC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! =20 Anyone knows how to build a rudimentar radar capable of detecting planes and UFOs in the sky? =20 All the best! >Marco A.G.Pinto =20 Marco A.G.Pinto: nop10942@mail.telepac.pt =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BD596F.5DDABC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!
 
Anyone knows how to build a rudimentar = radar
capable of detecting planes and UFOs in the = sky?
 
All the best!
      >Marco=20 A.G.Pinto
 
Marco A.G.Pinto: nop10942@mail.telepac.pt
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BD596F.5DDABC60-- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 18:52:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 18:52:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27917 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:52:24 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA06455 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06452 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:27:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [195.8.135.242]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07487 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr02.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.202]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA10728 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:23:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-0e-1-4.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.140.197]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA29766 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:23:17 +0100 (CET) From: Palle Anker Larsen Reply-To: Palle Anker Larsen To: Amos-List Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:19:18 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Subject: Re[2]: GUI Ext MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Den 26-Mar-98 skrev Mr. Giark To You: Hi! MGTY> On 25-Mar-98, Rod Whiteley wrote: MGTY> > How do I get a hold of a version somewhat less ancient than my creaking and MGTY> > groaning v1.62? MGTY> MGTY> You should be able to get 1.65 (or 1.67) from Mush's home pages. (1.67 may MGTY> have been a beta only release) How come you continue to spread wrong informations??? 1.62 is the latest and I doubt that MUSH has any beta's to dload at his site. It's not nice to let people searche for something they can't find. -- Best Wishes Palle. Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover. -- Bill Gates From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 12:48:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 12:48:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21871 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:48:23 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17436 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17433 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28764 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:47:58 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp3.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.83]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA103 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:47:22 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp3.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0001D73C; Fri, 27 Mar 98 07:42:00 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:48:17 -0700 Message-ID: <0001D73C.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re: GUI Compiler To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: I also have this problem and decided not to bother with it as V1.7 is due out soon. Mush??? Pietro??? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: GUI Compiler Author: "Alastair Murray" at Internet Date: 26/03/98 16:51 One non-amos thing first... Anyone knwo a good place on the net to sell second hand AMIGA hardware? [Its a Surf Squirrel, never used, 50 pounds if you're interested :) ] Now the AMOS thing... I've just been trying to use the GUI compiler and I think its either an old version or uses some extension that I haven't got cos it's puts wierd characters in places and stupid commands here and there. Could someone please send me either an up to date version or one saved in ASCII so I can see what I'm missing? Its just the GuiShell.AMOS that I need. Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 19:35:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 19:35:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02632 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:35:21 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA04800 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04791 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA10919 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23816 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1998 20:57:31 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk (194.239.134.174) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 20:57:31 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk ([194.239.152.57]) by post10.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA9610; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:57:28 +0100 From: Rune Zedeler To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com CC: AMOS List Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:50:43 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00019BD3.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Sorting Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id PAA04796 Status: O X-Status: On 16-Mar-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote: > My program has a memory bank which consists of 128 blocks of memory, > each 256k in size. Each memory block has a name and category and I > want to be able to sort the bank by either. This should do it: ' Needs sorting string to be located in S_STR$(0) to S_STR$(NUM-1) ' ( ... I don't know how to pass arrays to procs...) _SORT[128,256*1024,BANK_NUMBER,NUMBER_OF_ITEMS_IN_ARRAY,UNUSED_BANK] Procedure _SORT[NUM,SIZ,BNK,ARR_SIZ,TMP_BNK] Shared S_STR$() Reserve As Work TMP_BNK,SIZ Dim CUR(NUM-1),OLD(NUM-1) 'Add number of item to the end of the string For I=0 To NUM-1 : S_STR$(I)=S_STR$(I)+Hex$(I,4) : Next I 'ensure that unused items in array will be placed first after sorting If ARR_SIZ>NUM For I=NUM To ARR_SIZ-1 : S_STR$(I)='' : Next I End If Sort S_STR$(0) 'move sorted items FROM last TO first in array For I=0 To NUM-1 : S_STR$(I)=S_STR$(I+ARR_SIZ-NUM) : Next I 'At this point the first NUM indexes in S_STR$() contains sorted 'data - followed by the original position in the array. For I=0 To NUM-1 : CUR(I)=I : OLD(I)=I : Next I 'CUR(ORIGINAL_POS) contains CURRENT_POS 'OLD(CURRENT_POS) contains ORIGINAL_POS For I=0 To NUM-1 'OLDI=what index index I had before sorting. OLDI=Val(Right$(S_STR$(I),5)) 'J=Current position of block J=CUR(OLDI) Print OLDI,J S_STR$(I)=Left$(S_STR$(I),Len(S_STR$(I))-5) 'swap blocks: If I<>J Copy Start(BNK)+I*SIZ,Start(BNK)+(I+1)*SIZ To Start(TMP_BNK) Copy Start(BNK)+J*SIZ,Start(BNK)+(J+1)*SIZ To Start(BNK)+I*SIZ Copy Start(TMP_BNK),Start(TMP_BNK)+SIZ To Start(BNK)+J*SIZ Swap CUR(OLD(I)),CUR(OLD(J)) Swap OLD(I),OLD(J) End If Next I Erase TMP_BNK End Proc Quick tech explanation (hmmm, how it works, eh): I use the internal AMOS sort cmd. But before sorting I add the hex number to the end of the strings. So if the strings are: Hi There !!! then I add like this: Hi$0000 There$0001 !!!$0002 After sorting (using "Sort") it is: !!!$0002 Hi$0000 There$0001 - and I can use the numbers to move around in the bank. I reserve a temp bank on the size of one block (that is 256k) As I do not have 32MB of ram I have not been able to test it with your amount of memory. It moves the memory three times. That is: It will move 96MB of data! So it'll probably use a small amount of time. Just write a letter to the list (send a copy to me personally, as I am only very seldom at home and therefore incidentally skips some letters in the mailinglists) if you have questions. -- /¯\ __ __ /¯¯¯¯¯\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \¯-_ Peter Rørdams Vej 19 \ / //¯| \\/ ||¯\ \\¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯-_ 2800 Lyngby ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / ¯¯¯¯¯\\|\-'/ /¯¯¯¯¯ \\____________ _-¯ ¯¯¯¯¯\------'/||¯¯| \------'/ /_-¯ rzedeler@post10.tele.dk ¯¯¯¯¯¯\-'/ \-'/¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯ Tel: +45-45871730 ¯¯ ¯¯ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 23:26:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 27 23:26:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14499 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:26:36 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11030 for amos-out; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11027 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-26-55.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.133.55]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21768 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:35:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp16-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.65]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA02174 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:27:22 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:32:25 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: GUI Ext MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 27-Mar-98, Palle Anker Larsen wrote: >How come you continue to spread wrong informations??? Bite me. >1.62 is the latest and I doubt that MUSH has any beta's to dload at his site. I have 1.63 sitting right here, so I guess you better rethink. >It's not nice to let people searche for something they can't find. I found it. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 28 12:30:02 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 28 12:30:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13912 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:30:02 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14125 for amos-out; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:13:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14122 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26781 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:13:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from bay13.demon.co.uk ([193.237.27.209]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2003631; 28 Mar 98 16:08 GMT Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Chris Coulson Organization: is irrelevant... To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:08:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Datatypes/JPEG support? Reply-to: chris@tornado.pair.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Message-ID: <891101284.203631.0@bay13.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: Hi there, I`m putting together a little utility for the Agfa ePhoto307 digital camera, and the one thing that AMOS doesn`t already have, that I could really use, is a way to decode JPEGs... So, although ISTR reading *somewhere* about an extension that offered datatype support, I can`t find it anywhere. Was I just imagining it? And if so, then does anyone have some code for reading JPEGs? TIA Chris -- At Home With the Chris Amigas, Babylon 5, Flight Sims, RIAT'97 and Melanie C http://www.tornado.pair.com/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 28 20:27:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 28 20:27:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20334 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 20:27:20 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21481 for amos-out; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21478 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:50:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet14.ozemail.com.au (oznet14.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.120]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29684 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:50:28 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per1-45.space.net.au [203.38.10.209]) by oznet14.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA05990 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:50:24 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <351D8CBE.5881@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:50:22 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: GUI Phoowee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Hi all, GUI please, or has someone figured out how to get AGA screens using something else? You know how DigiView has Dyanmic Hires, and Dynamic Ham, how is that done? I read somewhere you can poke or doke a memory location and make a looping sample change pitch, anyone know how to do this? Anyone heard of a Workbench proggie called FastBlitter? I read about it in Amiga Format, but as I can`t read the CD-ROM just now (I`ll get one soon) I couldn`t check ROM for it. Anyone, anyone (Beuler...Beuler...) Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 00:26:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 00:26:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18716 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:26:49 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA23285 for amos-out; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23282 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:52:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15487 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc11.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.11]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id FAA15569 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:52:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Wed, 24 May 1978 12:31:32 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Zones. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello. Oki here is a question for you smart coders out there. Isent there a command in Amos that sets up a zone around a txt String?? How does it works?? And when will Gui Extension v 1.7 be released. I've herared several times now that it will be released any day now, but it's still isent out :(( It's not fair to keep us waiting like this! Morten Bolstad From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 15:53:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 15:53:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26907 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:53:15 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03853 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03850 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20293 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc17.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.17]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id VAA00180 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:13:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Thu, 25 May 1978 04:10:44 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Zones 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello again. Sorry Jens Vang Petersen and Alastair Murray, but i'am using the Text command and not the Print command, but is there a way to get the textzone command to work with the Text command??? Thanx Morten Bolstad From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 20:37:41 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 20:37:41 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21759 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:37:41 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04953 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04950 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18246 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc6.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.6]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id VAA01837 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:28:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Fri, 26 May 1978 02:23:43 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: GUI Extension & AGA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello I joust downloaded the GUI extension one hour ago and it's fucking grait, but there is some thing that might stop my dream of using 32 or 64 colours in my Diskmag :((( First of all, i dont understand this Public screen stuff, and when i display a 32 colour Hires picture with the Gui Extension it dont let me use for example the Mouse zone command and many other commands in Amos. PLEAAAASE is there a way to get them to work with the public screen???? here is what i have comed up with so far: Gui Screen Open 1,640,256,32,Hires Reserve As Work 4,30000 A$="Cool" Bload "Work:mu32colPic",4 Gui Display Iff 4 To 1 Gui Show Title 1,False Gui Writing 0 Gui Text 10,30,A$ I need to be able to do this things with the 32 col hires screen. Fade it Set up zones on it fade the picture from palette 0 to it's original colours Use screen display Use screen Copy Is this possible to do with a 32 colour screen and the GUI extension???? PLEEEEEEZ let it be!!!!! Thanx Morten Bolstad. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 19:46:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 19:46:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28353 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:46:22 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04948 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04945 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:28:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18635 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc6.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.6]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id VAA01851 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:28:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Fri, 26 May 1978 04:25:34 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Procedures & Speed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Oki, here we go again withanother question. Is it slowing the program down if i have alot of procedures that the main procedures jumps to and return back to, like this: (I have five of the Main procedures) Procedure Main1 (loadsa Code) A (some code) B (some code) C (some code) D (some code) E (some code) F (some code) G (some code) endproc Procedure A (do some stuff) Endproc Procedure B (do some stuff) Endproc Procedure C (do some stuff) Endproc Procedure D (do some stuff) Endproc Procedure F (do some stuff) Endproc Procedure G (do some stuff) Endproc Will this be slower than having all the code in Procedure A,B,C,D,E,F ang G in gosubs inside the Main1 proceure???? But then again if i must have all the code in Procedure A-G inside Main 1 procedure then i must have all that code inside Main 2-5 also. What will be quickest and easiest????? Thanx Morten Bolstad From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 28 21:29:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 28 21:29:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09430 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:29:08 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA22480 for amos-out; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 20:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22477 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 20:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03865 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 20:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from p09-courser-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.59.9]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA15316 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:27:34 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 29 Mar 98 01:21:06 +0100 Subject: _Switcher AMOS_ Message-Id: <351DA202.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: You know how a compiled AMOS program has a task name _Switcher AMOS_ (or something similar) ? Well, is there any harm in changing it (via a Hex Editor) ? I thought not, and did so and it seemed to work fine. This is Backbone I'm talking about and I'm sure you know by now it DOESN'T work fine on everyone else's machines. I just looked at a snoop dos log for a version where I changed _Switcher AMOS_ to something else and the program looks for the task name at various points? Is there a reason why this should be? Could it perhaps be the cause of some crashes? Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 28 23:11:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 28 23:11:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11480 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:11:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA23258 for amos-out; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23255 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco2-100.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03250 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp45-ts2-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.94]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA05059 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:30:18 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:29:47 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <351D8CBE.5881@mail.ozemail.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: GUI Phoowee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 28-Mar-98, geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au wrote: >I read somewhere you can poke or doke a memory location and make a >looping sample change pitch, anyone know how to do this? You can do it with the sam play command. Sam Play ,, Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 01:46:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 01:46:00 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25578 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:45:59 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA23666 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23663 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:14:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netwave.net (mail.netwave.net [207.112.132.11]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08048 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:14:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pppsrs91.netwave.net (pppsrs91.netwave.net [209.100.37.91]) by mail.netwave.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA03786; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:32:20 -0600 Date: 28 Mar 98 21:54:52 -0600 From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" Subject: Re: Amos Robots? To: "Sasu Lintula" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1455.391T2604T13144953@netwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Sasu Lintula digitized on 27-Mar-98 06:15:14: SL> On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Lee wrote: >> After playing with CRobots for a year or two, As I was washing my >> hair last night (Things often pop into my head when I'm doing >> nothing inparticular) I thought I would write Amos Robots. Is >> there any interest? For those who dont know, all you do is write a >> program which basically controls a robot. You run your program >> allong with others and see which program wins. SL> SL> Strange... SL> Couple days ago I had a flashback of tank game in which you SL> could control your tank by using small a kind of basic listings. SL> I started to make a list of possible commands that could be used SL> in that kind of game. I don't know anything about CRobot, but the SL> idea sounds familiar to me. Just do it, Lee! SLin A few years ago my son built a small programmable robot as a high school project. I remember they offered a serial interface to the C-64 sytle computers (Vic/64/128.) Greets, - Rand -- ______ ________________________ //// | _ \ _____ ___ __ _____ mailto:rand@netwave.net //// | [_} )(___ \ ( \ | ( _ \ http://www.netwave.net/members/rand | _ ( / __ \ | \| | |_} ) //// |__| \___)(_______(__|\____(_____/ \\\\//// "Beam me aboard, Scotty." "Sure. Will a 2x4 do?" From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 01:20:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 01:20:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA29848 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:20:11 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA23671 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23668 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netwave.net (mail.netwave.net [207.112.132.11]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02954 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:14:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pppsrs91.netwave.net (pppsrs91.netwave.net [209.100.37.91]) by mail.netwave.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA03790; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:32:25 -0600 Date: 28 Mar 98 22:03:46 -0600 From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" Subject: Re: extension? To: "Rune Zedeler" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <910.391T2328T13234545@netwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Rune Zedeler digitized on 15-Mar-98 05:29:47: RZ> On 15-Mar-98, Rand R. Fredricksen wrote: >>On X Goto _Hello,_Goodbye RZ> Or even better: RZ> Trap Gosub "_"+X$ RZ> if Errtrap RZ> Print "I don't understand a thing, dummy!" RZ> End If RZ> End RZ> _Hello: RZ> Print "Hello right back, Buddy!!!" RZ> Return RZ> _Goodbye: RZ> Print "Ok, seeya!!!" RZ> Return Ouch! How gauche. I thought we were trying to imitate the switch/case command :) Greets, - Rand -- ______ ________________________ //// | _ \ _____ ___ __ _____ mailto:rand@netwave.net //// | [_} )(___ \ ( \ | ( _ \ http://www.netwave.net/members/rand | _ ( / __ \ | \| | |_} ) //// |__| \___)(_______(__|\____(_____/ \\\\//// You're not afraid of heights, are you Doctor? Worf From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 02:12:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 02:12:39 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00276 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 02:12:39 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA23714 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:02:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA23711 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:02:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA11952 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from p16-goose-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.62.196]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA2587; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:01:57 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 29 Mar 98 06:01:44 +0100 Subject: Re: Zones. Message-Id: <351DE3C7.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: MortenBolstad, amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > Isent there a command in Amos that sets up a zone around a txt String?? > How does it works?? I've not used the text zone command but if you're using standard Print command with standard font then you can create a zone easily. As each letter is the same size (I'm pretty sure it's 8x8) then you could do something like this: Reserve Zone 1 A$="Whatever" Locate 10,5 : Print A$ Set Zone 1,10*8,5*8 To (10+Len(A$))*8,6*8 Then Mouse Zone will tell you if the pointer is over the text. There are more effiecient ways but I find that usually does the trick quickly and with minimum fuss. > And when will Gui Extension v 1.7 be released. > I've herared several times now that it will be released any day now, but > it's still isent out :(( > It's not fair to keep us waiting like this! Yeah! Come on. Delay the AMOS coding for a day or two and get GUI out! :) -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 07:16:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 07:16:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07206 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:16:26 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA24625 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24622 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05670 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28786 invoked from network); 29 Mar 1998 11:30:54 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 29 Mar 1998 11:30:54 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.68]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA38398; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:30:52 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Morten Bolstad , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:28:44 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: Zones. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 24-Maj-78, Morten Bolstad smashed the keyboard with: > Oki here is a question for you smart coders out there. That sounds like me ;-) > Isent there a command in Amos that sets up a zone around a txt String?? > How does it works?? Providing that you use 'print' to put it on screen, you can use 'Zone$'. Doing like this should set up a zone no. 1 around the text: Print Zone$("Thiz is Zone 1",1) That's it, you might wanna include 'Border$' to as it will create a 'box' around the text: Print Zone$(Border$("Zone 1 with border",2),2).. Oh yes the '2' in Border$ is the style of the border.. Hope it helps.. -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The attention span of a computer is only as long as its power cord. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 08:29:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 08:29:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17172 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:29:21 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA25951 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25948 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:20:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA11144 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6988 invoked from network); 29 Mar 1998 12:20:42 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk (194.239.134.174) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 29 Mar 1998 12:20:42 -0000 Received: from post10.tele.dk ([194.239.152.122]) by post10.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAC51398 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:20:38 +0100 From: Rune Zedeler To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:16:32 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1A72ED777AF@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Amos Robots? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.7392.1632.139884992.2" Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. This message was composed on an Amiga using the YAM mailer. YAM is available at http://bitcom.ch/~mbeck/ --BOUNDARY.7392.1632.139884992.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27-Mar-98, Lee wrote: >inparticular) I thought I would write Amos Robots. >Is there any interest? Long time ago I actually made something likewise in AMOS. The program is very badly documented and it's long time since I made it, = so I'll probably use some time on remembering what it is all about... But there is some sort of board with some robots on. The robots can read data about all the robots and about the board (The bo= ard is a 2D array, where 0 means open floor, -1 means wall, and >0 means robo= t number N (the robot itself has number one)) The arrays: BOARD(,): the board (commented above) RX(): Robot x-coord RY(): Robot y-coord RDIR(): Robot direction (0:right, 1:down, 2:left, 3:up) RENE(): Robot Energy (0:dead, 10:as healthy as can be) NAME$(): The name of the robot (can't be changed after start) Global variables: KOM$: The robots can use this variable to "talk" (that is: write comments= on the screen. If they put anything in this string, then the string will be printed after the robot hasa returned) NUM: Number of robots WX: Width of board WY: Heigth of board SR: Status register. This is the only changeable variable that will be reserved from call to call. Use it for whatever you want. The robot programs are included into procedures, so it is illegal to make= procedures in you programs (as it is illegal to have procedures nested in= to each other) The procedure returns: -2: Shoot (if there is a robot in front, then the robot will loose one energy-point) -1: Walk (Walks one step forwards. If there is a wall then nothing. If th= ere is a robot in front then the robot is pushed (moved along)) 0: Nop >0: Add N to RDIR (that is: 1:turn right ; 2:U-turn ; 3:turn left) First time the procedure is called then RX(1)=3D-1. Then the robot shall = not do its move. Instead it shall return it's name... A robot program can look something like this: If RX(1)=3D-1 : Pop Proc["C0000L ROBOT"] : End If X=3DRX(1) : Y=3DRY(1) : DIR=3DRDIR(1) : ENERGY=3DRENEa(1) ( find out what to return here ) Pop Proc[RETURN_VALUE] The gfx havent been made yet, so we are talking block gfx, and the game n= eeds overall finish. Included a little screen shot :) (all robots are controlled by the same program: "Lemmus Opus #1") But it sure is playable :) If you are interrested then I'll spend some time on commenting it and po= sting it here... I think that I've mentioned all the rules above. 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>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 15:06:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13650 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:06:21 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02805 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:26:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02802 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:26:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21730 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:26:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6538 invoked from network); 29 Mar 1998 18:27:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-40.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.168) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 29 Mar 1998 18:27:57 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00otu; Sun, 29 Mar 98 13:23:56 GMT Date: Sun, 29 Mar 98 13:23:56 GMT Message-Id: <9803291323.AA00ott@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: collin@xs4all.nl (Branko Collin) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Amiga Emulators for the PC Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:12:44 -0000, "whitey" wrote: >>Get UAE, its the best Ami emulator out there. Giving the roms around >>is illegal, there is a program which comes with it so you can snapshot >>your own ROM to put on disk and run with the emulator. >> > >Surely it isn't possible to use Amos Pro on a PC - is it? I'm assuming that >the complexity of Amos would prevent effective implementation on a PC. If >not, where can I get this UAE jobby? Actually, I remember that in the old days, one of the things first tested to run succesfully under UAE was AMOS. UAE can be bought including the ROM files and the OS from Cloanto: http://www.cloanto.com/amiga/forever/ -- branko collin collin@xs4all.nl -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 16:13:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 16:13:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28182 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 16:13:00 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02810 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02807 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21733 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6547 invoked from network); 29 Mar 1998 18:28:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-40.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.168) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 29 Mar 1998 18:28:00 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00ou4; Sun, 29 Mar 98 13:24:16 GMT Date: Sun, 29 Mar 98 13:24:16 GMT Message-Id: <9803291324.AA00ou3@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Shareware Status: O X-Status: "Alastair Murray" wrote: >When one of the rare occasions comes along that I decide NOT to give >my game/utility away on aminet for free, I'm always a bit undecided >about how to go about it. >The simple demo version and then register for a key file is what I did >with Backbone (but loads of people had trouble running it - I can only >assume its down to AMOS bugs cos I have no troubles - I'd be grateful >if anyone out there would give dev/misc/backbone a go to see if they >know what the problem is!) and it did ok but I wonder if the F1 route >would be better. Backbone is on the CU Amiga (or is it Amiga Format) CD this month. I got three of them this month and was getting some AMOS stuff from them. So far, I have about 65Mb of new AMOS stuff to add to the library, as soon as i get a keyboard. >It would be more hassle for me, and less money per copy sold but would >I actually reach more users??? >Can someone (probably Mush) give me an indication of the sorts of >numbers sold from an average F1 title compared with the average >registrations someone gets if doing it on their own? > The F1 route is not a ticket to fame and fortune, as is releasing any software. The product will be reviewed in all the Amiga magazines, and only if the people think they need it, will they buy it. Contact phil wilkinson at phil@ware5d.demon.co.uk and get him to take a look at the demo, i daresay he has it on CD, and get his opinion. He will also give you a list of changes to make etc. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 17:23:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 17:23:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22072 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:23:12 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02815 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:26:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02812 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01719 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6556 invoked from network); 29 Mar 1998 18:28:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-40.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.168) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 29 Mar 1998 18:28:02 -0000 Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00ou9; Sun, 29 Mar 98 13:24:23 GMT Date: Sun, 29 Mar 98 13:24:23 GMT Message-Id: <9803291324.AA00ou8@mushypd.desupernet.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information From: mushypd@redrose.net (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: [AMOSList] Shareware Status: O X-Status: "Alastair Murray" wrote: >When one of the rare occasions comes along that I decide NOT to give >my game/utility away on aminet for free, I'm always a bit undecided >about how to go about it. >The simple demo version and then register for a key file is what I did >with Backbone (but loads of people had trouble running it - I can only >assume its down to AMOS bugs cos I have no troubles - I'd be grateful >if anyone out there would give dev/misc/backbone a go to see if they >know what the problem is!) and it did ok but I wonder if the F1 route >would be better. Backbone is on the CU Amiga (or is it Amiga Format) CD this month. I got three of them this month and was getting some AMOS stuff from them. So far, I have about 65Mb of new AMOS stuff to add to the library, as soon as i get a keyboard. >It would be more hassle for me, and less money per copy sold but would >I actually reach more users??? >Can someone (probably Mush) give me an indication of the sorts of >numbers sold from an average F1 title compared with the average >registrations someone gets if doing it on their own? > The F1 route is not a ticket to fame and fortune, as is releasing any software. The product will be reviewed in all the Amiga magazines, and only if the people think they need it, will they buy it. Contact phil wilkinson at phil@ware5d.demon.co.uk and get him to take a look at the demo, i daresay he has it on CD, and get his opinion. He will also give you a list of changes to make etc. Mush ************************************************************ Editor/Manager of Extreme AMOS AMOS Homepages located at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ************************************************************ -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 11:26:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 11:26:17 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20221 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:26:16 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26085 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:51:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26082 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco2-100.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18418 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp3-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.52]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA22177 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:50:47 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:49:10 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Zones. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 24-May-78, Morten Bolstad wrote: >Isent there a command in Amos that sets up a zone around a txt String?? >How does it works?? A$=Zone$(,) >And when will Gui Extension v 1.7 be released. As soon as Pietro finishes the code and Mush finishes the docs. How many times do you need to be told? >It's not fair to keep us waiting like this! Because we all know that Pietro has nothing else to do, right? Have a bit of patience - it's not like there is no version to keep you busy until the 1.70 comes out. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 17:16:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 17:16:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06756 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:16:58 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03866 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03863 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22101 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from p27-stint-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.120.207]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA13812 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:22:11 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 29 Mar 98 17:41:26 +0100 Subject: Backbone Troubles Message-Id: <351E87C6.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: After extensive testing on Backbone I've come to a conclusion on why it won't work on some poeples computers. Basically, its just too big! The code is fairly big and it reserves a LOT of memory. Things that can help get it run include: -cutting chunks of code out to make it smaller. -reducing the amount of memory reserved. -not having error message when compiling it. Now apart from the last one (which doesn't help much anyway) I can't really do the other two without wrecking my program. Does anyone have any idea what causes AMOS to go crazy with big progs. etc. Oh, and I HAVE tried the Long Forward Jump option in the compiler! Anyone know how to solve it? Any hope of someone patching something? Arrgh! I'm dieing! -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 03:15:46 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 03:15:46 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA28541 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 03:15:46 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13490 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 02:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13487 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 02:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.beotel.net (ns.beotel.net [194.106.162.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00868 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 02:16:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from setnet.UUCP (Usetnet@localhost) by hermes.beotel.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/rchk1.19) with UUCP id IAA29166 for Amos-list@access.digex.net; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:09:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: hermes.beotel.net: Usetnet set sender to setnet!brains using -f Received: by setnet.co.yu (0.99.970109) id AA04785; 30 Mar 98 07:34:23 +0100 From: brains@setnet.co.yu (Vladimir Cabrilo) Date: 29 Mar 98 21:54:01 +0100 Subject: GUI Phoowee Message-ID: <57e_9803300734@setnet.co.yu> To: Amos-list@access.digex.net Status: O X-Status: giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org mumbled something I could`t understand. > I read somewhere you can poke or doke a memory location and make a > looping sample change pitch, anyone know how to do this? go> You can do it with the sam play command. Sam Play , number>, But what if you`ve got a long sample, and you need to change it`s pitch right in the middle of playing? My solution would be (if you don`t interract with the pitch) to make a module which would do the job. Brains@SETNet.co.yu * Brains Software * Grand Master of the Frullah Klan ----------------------- Member of: Team *AMIGA* ------------------------- ... Adding 100 to 486 made 585.99982740613, so they named it "Pentium". --- Blue Wave v2.01 AmyBW [NR] From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 22:23:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 22:23:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03687 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:23:12 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05543 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05540 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22557 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from p17-shearwater-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.121.77]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA27365; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:04:24 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 29 Mar 98 22:11:23 +0100 Subject: Re: Zones 2 Message-Id: <351EC70B.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: MortenBolstad, amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > Sorry Jens Vang Petersen and Alastair Murray, but i'am using the Text > command and not the Print command, but is there a way to get the textzone > command to work with the Text command??? Use the same technique I said except use Text Length(T$) to get the width in pixels of the text. Remember that if the font has height H and you do Text X,Y,A$ Then the top left of the text is at X,Y-H and the bottom right is at X+Text Length(A$),Y. Just set a zone to these coords. -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 18:41:14 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 29 18:41:14 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19688 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:41:14 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA06769 for amos-out; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 16:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06766 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 16:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07949 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 16:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126070.agonet.it [195.32.126.70]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA04799 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:38:52 +0200 From: Pietro Ghizzoni Reply-To: Pietro Ghizzoni To: Amos-List Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:52:48 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Dairymen Soft Subject: Amos Report 29-Mar-98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hi! Yep! is time for a new report... i'm sorry for the silence in this period, but as you know i've a lot of work and no time ;) There are several good news this time... let's go: I'm proud to announce *The Amos Factory*!!! What is it? The Amos Factory is the new official AMOS homepage. Here you'll find all the upgrades, latest news, developers materials and other stuffs. For celebrate the event, *3 upgrades* are available! - *The long awaited Gui Extension v1.70!* This is a beta archive. The doc isn't 100% complete, but anyway it explain the new commands. There are some examples in the archive... but don't worry the complete archive with the full docs and tons of examples will ready as soon as possible. Well... as you have heard several times, the GUI 1.70 allows you to use the new AGA and graphic cards screen mode, public screen, on-line help mui-like, and other useful stuffs (80+ new commands). Try it.... if you've used the TCP/IP commands of the previous versions, you must save your programs in ASCII, because i've totally rewritten them. - *FD Extension v2.0* I've fixed and solved all the problems of the previous version... now the builder is more complete and easy to use. It allows you to create different extensions, and select the destination slot. - and the big one! the *Amos.library upgrade!* I've reworked a bit the code, and fixed a nasty bug... now the evil interlaced screens problem with the AmigaOS v3.1 is fixed, and Amos opens interlaced screens correctly ;)) No bad, eh? :) Uhhh.. i've forgot the homepage address 8)... http://www.seta.it/amos/ OK... visit my homepage, all the material is on-line for free download! (..as usual). Software is like sex, it's better when is free ;) (Richard Stallmam) Special thanx to Fabrizio Bazzo for the free WWW space... THANK YOU! And now a quick message to all the gfx artists.... we *need* a new AMOS logo!! It must be cool, and not a simple 'AMOS' like the original. Send me your art works on or before April 15th. Come on! And now i want stress a important point about the Amos development.... The programming isn't my real job... i'm a dairyman, and i've my firm to handle, and usually this take all my time. I can program part-time, usually in the weekends only, and so the work doesn't procede very fast :( I've received the sources 1 month ago, but i've seriously worked on them only a week. Anyway in this brief period, i've upgraded the GUI Extension, created the FD extension and fixed some Amos bugs. I'm doing my best, but Amos v3 will not be ready soon... Enjoy! -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | Team AMIGA \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Professional Team Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ!! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 01:35:53 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 01:35:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00639 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 01:35:52 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA13334 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13331 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA08051 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:28:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2011174; 30 Mar 98 5:26 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003xt; Mon, 30 Mar 98 05:26:41 GMT Date: Mon, 30 Mar 98 05:26:41 GMT Message-Id: <9803300526.AA003xo@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <2612ee0f.u10t12e.adbf4-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Pietro Ghizzoni ) (at Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:52:48 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: ghizzo@agonet.it Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Amos Report 29-Mar-98 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id AAA13332 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Pietro, > - and the big one! the *Amos.library upgrade!* I've reworked a bit the > code, and fixed a nasty bug... now the evil interlaced screens problem with > the AmigaOS v3.1 is fixed, and Amos opens interlaced screens correctly ;)) Smegging hell. It works. Yahaa ! _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "Red Alert !" |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 12:32:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 12:32:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29470 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:32:09 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14157 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14154 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from bianca.scs.com.br (bianca.scs.com.br [200.231.154.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18387 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:57:14 -0500 (EST) From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br Received: from tecnopro.com.br.tecnopro.com.br (ras3 [200.231.154.32]) by bianca.scs.com.br (8.8.5/SCO5) with SMTP id JAA10185 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:58:16 -0300 (EST) From(scs.com.br): erico@www.tecnopro.com.br Message-Id: <199803301258.JAA10185@bianca.scs.com.br> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:58:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: re: more amos robots Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Status: O X-Status: Hi Lee What about instead of making it with a text editor to put up a program for the rob make a gui for it? Have you seem that game I told you? It is just about it but with a gui , like you go into the rob and there are plugs on the walls for the equipments , like the bumpers and trusters and hands , and you have a bunch of tools and infinite wires to link the things , like some tools would invert the polarity of the wires others are T and so on. See ya! ----------------------------------------------------------- Ahoy! You got this from Erico Monteiro Email: erico@tecnopro.com.br Work Url: www.tecnopro.com.br Barca Furada Url: www.angelfire.com/ak/gamecreation "If you can't find me or encounter any problem... ...call the president" ----------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 07:51:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 07:51:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15795 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:51:01 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA13812 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13809 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from radiks.net (sr.radiks.net [205.138.126.6]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01074 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from skid-vis (dial103.radiks.net [205.138.126.149]) by radiks.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA29026 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:21:06 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980330052046.006a83c0@radiks.net> X-Sender: skid@radiks.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:20:46 -0600 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: TSI Subject: interlace bug? In-Reply-To: <9803300526.AA003xo@mirex.demon.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: A>> - and the big one! the *Amos.library upgrade!* I've reworked a bit the >> code, and fixed a nasty bug... now the evil interlaced screens problem with >> the AmigaOS v3.1 is fixed, and Amos opens interlaced screens correctly ;)) can someone explain what the bug was? ------------------------------------- Hard-drive backup, CD-ROM backup, Music CD backup, custom-made music CD -----------_C_H_E_A_P_--------------- -- Email skid@angelic.com for Info -- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 21:01:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 21:01:08 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27459 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:01:07 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00889 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00886 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17369 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from (agasinc.demon.co.uk) [193.237.4.98] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yJiXx-0003Zn-00; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:40:34 +0100 From: Andy Gibson To: Alastair Murray , Amos List Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:10:05 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <351DA202.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: _Switcher AMOS_ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: This message arrived in my mail box: Date: Sunday 29-Mar-98 Time: 00:21:06 Name: Alastair Murray Subject: _Switcher AMOS_ So here's a reply... Hi there Alastair, >You know how a compiled AMOS program has a task name _Switcher AMOS_ >(or something similar) ? Yeah.... >Well, is there any harm in changing it (via a Hex Editor) ? Not as far as i can tell. I change it all the time when trying to disguise my Amos proggies. I've never had anyone report errors yet :) Change it to whatver you want. Another thing, search for AMOS and alter everything. Even the names of Extensions. Your code will still work. Hope that helps.... Andy Gibson -- ***************************************************************** * * *_______/\_____/\_______/\_____/\ * *\ /\ ___/\ /\ ___/ Andy Gibson <---------------- * * \_/\ / /\/| _ \_/\ / \/ \ ----------> aka SKiDZ/Area 51 * * / _/ / / |_| // _/ / __\ \ * * \// / \___ / \// / /__ / andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk * * /_/ \_/ /_/ \_/ * * pRODUCTiONS 9T8 http://www.agasinc.demon.co.uk * * * ***************************************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 13:43:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 13:43:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11568 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:43:36 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA15846 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15843 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco4-214.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.214]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18914 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp4-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.53]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA23128 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:02:23 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:02:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: fd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Have I missed something? All the fd archive contains is the library. How do you use it? Are there more files? Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 10:35:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 10:35:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22769 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:35:21 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14634 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14631 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [195.8.135.242]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18784 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr02.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.202]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA06411 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:17:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (ccc21504@msx-1c-1-16.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.144.81]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA21543 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:17:37 +0200 (CEST) From: "Rune J. Keller" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:13:13 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: FD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Does anyone out there have some amos code using the new fd lib? It is kind of hard to use without any documentation at all :) -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - some people deserves to die..! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 00:05:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 00:05:13 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09943 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:05:13 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA16621 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16618 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22498 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:14:52 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA157 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:46:03 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0000E383; Mon, 30 Mar 98 16:39:45 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:21:57 -0700 Message-ID: <0000E383.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re[2]: Sorting Problem To: Rune Zedeler Cc: AMOS List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Thanks, I will try this out later. One thing I should point out is that I made a bit of an error when I said 128 blocks of 256k. This should read 128 of 256 bytes. Would this have much effect on the code provided below? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Sorting Problem Author: Rune Zedeler at Internet Date: 27/03/98 20:50 On 16-Mar-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote: > My program has a memory bank which consists of 128 blocks of memory, > each 256k in size. Each memory block has a name and category and I > want to be able to sort the bank by either. This should do it: ' Needs sorting string to be located in S_STR$(0) to S_STR$(NUM-1) ' ( ... I don't know how to pass arrays to procs...) _SORT[128,256*1024,BANK_NUMBER,NUMBER_OF_ITEMS_IN_ARRAY,UNUSED_BANK] Procedure _SORT[NUM,SIZ,BNK,ARR_SIZ,TMP_BNK] Shared S_STR$() Reserve As Work TMP_BNK,SIZ Dim CUR(NUM-1),OLD(NUM-1) 'Add number of item to the end of the string For I=0 To NUM-1 : S_STR$(I)=S_STR$(I)+Hex$(I,4) : Next I 'ensure that unused items in array will be placed first after sorting If ARR_SIZ>NUM For I=NUM To ARR_SIZ-1 : S_STR$(I)='' : Next I End If Sort S_STR$(0) 'move sorted items FROM last TO first in array For I=0 To NUM-1 : S_STR$(I)=S_STR$(I+ARR_SIZ-NUM) : Next I 'At this point the first NUM indexes in S_STR$() contains sorted 'data - followed by the original position in the array. For I=0 To NUM-1 : CUR(I)=I : OLD(I)=I : Next I 'CUR(ORIGINAL_POS) contains CURRENT_POS 'OLD(CURRENT_POS) contains ORIGINAL_POS For I=0 To NUM-1 'OLDI=what index index I had before sorting. OLDI=Val(Right$(S_STR$(I),5)) 'J=Current position of block J=CUR(OLDI) Print OLDI,J S_STR$(I)=Left$(S_STR$(I),Len(S_STR$(I))-5) 'swap blocks: If I<>J Copy Start(BNK)+I*SIZ,Start(BNK)+(I+1)*SIZ To Start(TMP_BNK) Copy Start(BNK)+J*SIZ,Start(BNK)+(J+1)*SIZ To Start(BNK)+I*SIZ Copy Start(TMP_BNK),Start(TMP_BNK)+SIZ To Start(BNK)+J*SIZ Swap CUR(OLD(I)),CUR(OLD(J)) Swap OLD(I),OLD(J) End If Next I Erase TMP_BNK End Proc Quick tech explanation (hmmm, how it works, eh): I use the internal AMOS sort cmd. But before sorting I add the hex number to the end of the strings. So if the strings are: Hi There !!! then I add like this: Hi$0000 There$0001 !!!$0002 After sorting (using "Sort") it is: !!!$0002 Hi$0000 There$0001 - and I can use the numbers to move around in the bank. I reserve a temp bank on the size of one block (that is 256k) As I do not have 32MB of ram I have not been able to test it with your amount of memory. It moves the memory three times. That is: It will move 96MB of data! So it'll probably use a small amount of time. Just write a letter to the list (send a copy to me personally, as I am only very seldom at home and therefore incidentally skips some letters in the mailinglists) if you have questions. -- /?\ __ __ /?????\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \?-_ Peter Rordams Vej 19 \ / //?| \\/ ||?\ \\?????????????? ?-_ 2800 Lyngby ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / ?????\\|\-'/ /????? \\____________ _-? ?????\------'/||??| \------'/ /_-? rzedeler@post10.tele.dk ??????\-'/ \-'/?????? ? Tel: +45-45871730 ?? ?? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 06:30:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 06:30:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21950 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:30:34 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA13766 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13763 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09897 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:38:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:30:40 +0100 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 30 Mar 98 11:36:50 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 30 Mar 98 11:36:44 GMT+0 From: Lee Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:33:14 GMT+0 Subject: More Amos Robots. Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <1F106872DB6@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: Ok, so I'll do it. Basicaly what I'm going to do is have the thing all in one package:- 1. Text editor, to enter your Robot code. (If anyones done some of this it would save loads of time if you could help) 2. Create my virtual processor. CRobots uses a virtual processor with 10 commands and is a stack machine. This bit is easy and should take no time to do. 3. Amos compiler. Compile the cut down Amos code into code for my virtual processor. (This could come in handy for other Amos type stuff.) 4. The simulator bit, this will be fairly straight forward. So if anyones done a text editor in Amos, any source would be mucho apreciated. ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Its just a big egg pie! ________________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 21:44:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 21:44:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26927 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:44:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02937 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02930 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27085 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21151 invoked from network); 30 Mar 1998 18:40:15 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 30 Mar 1998 18:40:15 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.93]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB33168; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:40:12 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Morten Bolstad , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:05:08 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: Zones 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 25-Maj-78, Morten Bolstad smashed the keyboard with: > > Hello again. > > > Sorry Jens Vang Petersen and Alastair Murray, but i'am using the Text > command and not the Print command, but is there a way to get the textzone > command to work with the Text command??? No, sorry.. The only option I can see is that you define a zone around the text either before or after you put the text.. (Just remember that the Y you hand to the Text command is the baseline of the text, NOT the top...) -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective stories. -- Arthur C. Clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 22:13:02 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 22:13:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16866 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:13:02 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02942 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:40:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02939 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:40:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22218 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21167 invoked from network); 30 Mar 1998 18:40:18 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 30 Mar 1998 18:40:18 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.93]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAC33168; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:40:16 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Alastair Murray , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:05:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <351E87C6.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: Backbone Troubles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 29-Mar-98, Alastair Murray smashed the keyboard with: > After extensive testing on Backbone I've come to a conclusion on why > it won't work on some poeples computers. > > Basically, its just too big! The code is fairly big and it reserves > a LOT of memory. > > Things that can help get it run include: > -cutting chunks of code out to make it smaller. > -reducing the amount of memory reserved. > -not having error message when compiling it. > > Now apart from the last one (which doesn't help much anyway) I can't > really do the other two without wrecking my program. > > Does anyone have any idea what causes AMOS to go crazy with big progs. > etc. > Oh, and I HAVE tried the Long Forward Jump option in the compiler! I don't think you can blame AMOS for this, basicaly the programs isn't that demanding with memory anyway. But if you'd like to cut on memory- usage there's a few ways: Put as much as you can in banks (Menus, AMAL, Interface, Data-lines, etc..) Put as much as you can in external files, and load them into banks when needed, the remove them when not needed... (Graphics, Music and things like this..) Put a display of the 'Free' variable somewhere in your program, and then begin to reduce the 'Set Buffer' value until you don't have more variable room that needed.. Reduce the 'Stack' with 'Set Stack'.. -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A computer program does what you tell it to do, not what you want it to do. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 22:27:47 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 22:27:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09006 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:27:46 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA10390 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10385 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20198 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from p04-hobby-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.65.124]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA25061 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:20:11 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 30 Mar 98 21:55:02 +0100 Subject: Re: Amos Report 29-Mar-98 Message-Id: <352014B6.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > - *The long awaited Gui Extension v1.70!* > - and the big one! the *Amos.library upgrade!* Great work! The GUI extension is worth the wait! Its amazing! I have to say that without people like you, I may well have abandoned amos by now, so keep it up! :) A few points and questions... Is the extension continuing with development? If so in what direction? Whereas it is now easy to make WB applications to run on any system with any screen mode, games is still not possible for anything other than AMOS own custom screens. The GUI Clone allows it in some ways (amazing command!) but without double buffering it isn't usuable for moving games. One temporary help would be to allow GUI clone to work with Logic(screen) or Physic(screen) so you could then create two gui screens along with a double buffered amos screen and clone the logic part to one GUI screen and the physic part to the other. You could then manually swap the two GUI screens around. Of course, the problem is that you use up twice the chip memory resevered just for screens but its not bad. Can't be that hard a command to add can it? :) .... please. :) Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 03:46:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 03:46:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29143 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:46:19 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA20000 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19997 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.beotel.net (ns.beotel.net [194.106.162.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18452 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from setnet.UUCP (Usetnet@localhost) by hermes.beotel.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/rchk1.19) with UUCP id IAA32618 for Amos-list@access.digex.net; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:11:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: hermes.beotel.net: Usetnet set sender to setnet!brains using -f Received: by setnet.co.yu (0.99.970109) id AA04814; 31 Mar 98 07:43:50 +0100 From: brains@setnet.co.yu (Vladimir Cabrilo) Date: 30 Mar 98 22:12:01 +0100 Subject: [AMOSList] Amiga Emulators for the PC Message-ID: <5b9_9803310743@setnet.co.yu> To: Amos-list@access.digex.net Status: O X-Status: collin@xs4all.nl mumbled something I could`t understand. cn> Get UAE, its the best Ami emulator out there. Giving the roms around cn> is illegal, there is a program which comes with it so you can cn> snapshot your own ROM to put on disk and run with the emulator. cn> Surely it isn't possible to use Amos Pro on a PC - is it? I'm assuming cn> that the complexity of Amos would prevent effective implementation on cn> a PC. If not, where can I get this UAE jobby? cn> Actually, I remember that in the old days, one of the things first cn> tested to run succesfully under UAE was AMOS. Ther shouldn`t be a problem running AMOS. The only trouble is the speed and the multitasking. On my Pentium 133, UAE runs at the speed of, lets say, 3/4 of my A1200, when you use normal programs. But when you use somthing that uses the CPU (like Real 3D), then you notice the slowdown. Time to render the same scene on the PC is 2 times greater than on Amiga. cn> branko collin ^^^^^^ Interesting name. Where are you from? P.S. I`m looking for some testers, so if anyone wants, please write me an Email. :))) Brains@SETNet.co.yu * Brains Software * Grand Master of the Frullah Klan ----------------------- Member of: Team *AMIGA* ------------------------- ... Dare To Do What You Dare To Dream BUY AMIGA !!! --- Blue Wave v2.01 AmyBW [NR] From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 23:03:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 23:03:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17925 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:03:50 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA15957 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:39:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15954 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14679 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from p55-kittiwake-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.67.115]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA11387 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:38:50 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 30 Mar 98 23:07:08 +0100 Subject: GUI Extension Update Message-Id: <3520259C.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: Another GUI Ext suggestion... Its nice that you can load AGA IFF screens now but you can't really do anything with them. Whats needed is a way to cut out AGA Bobs, Icons and Blocks. -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 22:08:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 22:08:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04573 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:08:36 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12328 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12325 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us [204.194.39.250]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04301 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (fer007@localhost) by fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA06277 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:24:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:24:14 -0500 (EST) From: fernando Bartra To: AMOS Subject: gui extension Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: just downloaded the gui extension from amos site. the hypertext amiga guide wont show the installation docs. I think i can still install it(copy lib to apro libs)but I need to know what slot the extension goes in (number). thanks, wolfpack From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 22:31:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 30 22:31:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09002 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:31:18 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12715 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12712 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27690 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-41.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-41.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.105]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28643 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:40:23 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 31 Mar 98 00:37:49 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: fd To: "Mr. Giark To You" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <916.394T2498T374799@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Mr. Giark To You (giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org) wrote: >Have I missed something? All the fd archive contains is the library. How do >you use it? Are there more files? I haven't tried v2 of this yet but the only things required for v1 are: 1. Amos... 2. The FDLib program 3. Some .fd files. Number two takes any number of number 3 and converts them into a extension for AMOS so one could, for example, utilise the datatype system more easily (not that it's easy...). --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- Whip me! Beat me! Make me run Windows on an XT! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 00:51:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 00:51:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25574 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:51:04 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA18691 for amos-out; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:23:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18688 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16523 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from p17-chachalaca-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.58.77]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA24746 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:23:18 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 31 Mar 98 02:06:44 +0100 Subject: more GUI questions Message-Id: <35204FB4.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: With the GUI extension. Can you find the name of label of a gadget (buttons particularly) so you don't have to find it's ID? Is the ID set in Gad Tools Box? (If so where is it set?) Can you not change menus? For examples I've got a tick box menu where I want one of the following to be selected at any point in time. (Exactly one, not zero or 2,3,4) None Minimum Medium Full The thing is I can set up Gad Tools Box so that only one can be selected at a time but I can't set it up so the user cannot turn them ALL off. Which is no good. Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 04:33:02 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 04:33:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA00758 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 04:33:02 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA20139 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20136 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA05367 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25702 invoked by uid 1514); 31 Mar 1998 07:59:56 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:59:56 +0100 (IST) From: Matt To: Amos-List Subject: Re: Procedures & Speed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 26 May 1978, Morten Bolstad wrote: > > Oki, here we go again withanother question. > > > Is it slowing the program down if i have alot of procedures > that the main procedures jumps to and return back to, like this: > (I have five of the Main procedures) > > Will this be slower than having all the code in Procedure A,B,C,D,E,F ang G > in gosubs inside the Main1 proceure???? > But then again if i must have all the code in Procedure A-G inside Main 1 > procedure then i must have all that code inside Main 2-5 also. > > What will be quickest and easiest????? > Use subroutines anywhere speed really matters - the exact same code takes longer in a procedure because of the time needed to set up the memory for a procedure - new variables etc. whereas a gosub is simply a switch in location. Use a mixture of both. Use procedures for things that aren't speed dependant - setup, load info, save info, highscore, help screen whatever (I don't know what sort of thing you're writing) and keep the subs for the in game loop or maths intensive bits or whatever. The subs may be messier than procs but when compiled who sees your code anyway? ### ### ######## ########### ########### #### #### ### ### ### ### ##!## ##!## #!# #!# #!# #!# !#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@! !@! !@! mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie !!! ! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! x x :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: \__/ ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: :: :: :: :: : : From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 14:43:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 14:43:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21589 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:43:50 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23289 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23286 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapman.karlskrona.se (chapman.karlskrona.se [195.84.83.130]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04059 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapman.karlskrona.se ([192.165.99.93]) by chapman.karlskrona.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA28579 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:44:30 +0200 From: Goran Cengic Reply-To: Goran Cengic To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:09:31 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: AMOS rumour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hi, I just wonder have anyone of you heard rumour about new version of AMOS that is being produced ? Thanks in advance -- Goran Cengic gorane@chapman.karlskrona.se From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 19:00:31 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 19:00:31 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22353 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:00:31 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12963 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12960 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27470 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from p35-canary-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.57.215]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA22055 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:20:08 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 31 Mar 98 06:19:41 +0100 Subject: Even MORE GUI Questions... Message-Id: <35208AFD.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: GUI again... Can you give a screen you open a public name so you can get other programs to run on it? Anyone know how to get Multiview to run on another public screen though it's CLI call. There is a PUBSCREEN parameter to it but I can't get it working. Also, if running an amigaguide file through multiview, is there a way to get it to start on a certain node? A bit of the points: I run my AMIGA 1200 display through the VIDEO port and into the SCART socket of a very high quality TV. I find I get a perfectly good display with this. If I got a GFX card, what would change? Would I NEED a monitor? What else would I need? (I've never used a proper monitor and don't really know whats involved at all) How would this affect AMOS? Would I not be able to use or things created with it through the GFX card? Would I have to plug my monitor into a different socket to use it? I heard one (picasso I think) had some extra port you could use or something? Is this true? Is this the same for Cybervision? Questions questions quesions... Thanks for any help, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 06:53:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 06:53:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06412 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:53:21 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20252 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 04:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20249 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 04:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA19127 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 04:52:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from (mirex.demon.co.uk) [158.152.68.125] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yJxiG-0006bi-00; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:52:12 +0100 Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003ym; Tue, 31 Mar 98 09:52:03 GMT Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 09:52:03 GMT Message-Id: <9803310952.AA003yh@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <26147dc2.u10t12e.758e9-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980330052046.006a83c0@radiks.net> (from TSI ) (at Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:20:46 -0600) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk (Keith Hill) (Keith Hill) To: skid@angelic.com Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: interlace bug? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id EAA20250 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as TSI, > A>> - and the big one! the *Amos.library upgrade!* I've reworked a bit the > >> code, and fixed a nasty bug... now the evil interlaced screens problem with > >> the AmigaOS v3.1 is fixed, and Amos opens interlaced screens correctly ;)) > can someone explain what the bug was? Interlaced looked, until the other night, like someone went and de-interlaced it, and left the screen the same. Like every other scan line is MISSING. May the bug rot in silicon hell with all the photocopiers. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "Stay Frosty." |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 07:55:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 07:55:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00604 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:55:21 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20268 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 04:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20265 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 04:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA11121 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 04:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15285 invoked from network); 31 Mar 1998 09:57:36 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 31 Mar 1998 09:57:36 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.3]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA30370; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:57:33 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Alastair Murray , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:54:22 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <351EC70B.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: Zones 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 29-Mar-98, Alastair Murray smashed the keyboard with: > Use the same technique I said except use Text Length(T$) to get the > width in pixels of the text. > Remember that if the font has height H and you do Text X,Y,A$ > Then the top left of the text is at X,Y-H and the bottom right is at > X+Text Length(A$),Y. > Just set a zone to these coords. NO !! The UL-corner of text is NOT in Y-H, it's in Y-Text Base... eg. for topaz-8 (standard) the height is 8, but the text base is 7.. -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Foolproof operation: All parameters are hard coded. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 07:59:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 07:59:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24901 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:59:24 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA20277 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20274 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA27380 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16861 invoked from network); 31 Mar 1998 10:03:21 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 31 Mar 1998 10:03:21 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.3]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA44404; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:03:18 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Jonas Thorell , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <916.394T2498T374799@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re[2]: fd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 31-Mar-98, Jonas Thorell smashed the keyboard with: > Mr. Giark To You (giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org) wrote: >> I missed something? All the fd archive contains is the library. How do >> use it? Are there more files? > > I haven't tried v2 of this yet but the only things required for v1 are: > > 1. Amos... > 2. The FDLib program > 3. Some .fd files. Uhh, short note: You need the libraries pointed by the .fd files, but that should be pritty obvious... -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ fortune: No such file or directory ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 09:40:55 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 09:40:55 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13900 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:40:55 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA21058 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21055 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:17:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22403 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-53.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-53.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.117]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26419 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:16:29 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 31 Mar 98 15:12:59 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" Subject: Re: interlace bug? To: "Keith Hill" In-Reply-To: <9803310952.AA003yh@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <598.394T2973T9125026@bahnhof.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Keith Hill (Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk) wrote: >May the bug rot in silicon hell with all the photocopiers. Someone's been watching too much Red Dwarf lately... --- Look at the shoes you're filling, look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing, the way we've always done before Look at the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed and I don't wanna hear no more --- A fool and his money are soon parted. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 19:24:48 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 19:24:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16117 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:24:48 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17357 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17354 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netwave.net (mail.netwave.net [207.112.132.11]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12659 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pppsrs1.netwave.net (pppsrs1.netwave.net [209.100.37.1]) by mail.netwave.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17732 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:34:27 -0600 Date: 31 Mar 98 08:15:54 -0600 From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" Subject: amos.library v2.1 To: "* AMOS Mailing List *" Message-ID: <568.394T2742T4954615@netwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Is this version only for OS 3.x and/or AGA? I just get a lockup (black screen) when I try to start AMOS on my 2.1 A-500. Thanks, - Rand -- ______ ________________________ //// | _ \ _____ ___ __ _____ mailto:rand@netwave.net //// | [_} )(___ \ ( \ | ( _ \ http://www.netwave.net/members/rand | _ ( / __ \ | \| | |_} ) //// |__| \___)(_______(__|\____(_____/ \\\\//// So then faith cometh by hearing,and hearing by the word of God. romans 10:17 From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 18:20:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 18:20:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17733 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:20:20 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09843 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:07:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09840 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:07:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.globalserve.net (smtp1.globalserve.net [209.90.144.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10972 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from globalserve.net (@dialin7.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.7]) by smtp1.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19529 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:08:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199803311808.NAA19529@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:07:56 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: AMOS List Subject: Clipboard Usage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: How would I go about copying info into he clipboard in an AMOS prog so that I can just like copy and paste into another program? I hope that makes sense :) -Thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic -*Under Reconstruction*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress... I really should start accomplishing more geez... ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 19:07:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 19:07:24 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26836 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:07:24 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09690 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:59:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09687 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:59:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA05940 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6780 invoked from network); 31 Mar 1998 17:59:41 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 31 Mar 1998 17:59:41 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.22]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB35680 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:59:38 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:50:20 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Extensionlist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, The extensionlists has been updated with a new extension, and an upgrade of the GUI extension... Here's the list as I know it now, please send me any aditional information you may have... --------------------------------------------------------------- Slot: Extension: TC: PRO: FLGS: -- AMOS 1.36 2.10 S -- FD N/A 2.00 S 01 Music 1.54 2.00 01 Enhanced Music (EME) 3.00 3.00 D 02 Compactor 1.20 2.00 03 Requester 1.41 2.00 04 Voodoo-3D 1.00 1.02 05 Compiler 1.36 2.00 06 Serial 1.20 N/A 06 IO_Devices N/A 2.00 06 IO_DevicesJ N/A 2.1J D 07 TOME 4.24 4.24+ S 08 CTEXT 1.32 N/A 08 AMCAF N/A 1.50b S 09 Range / Shuffle 2.9 2.9 S 10 Dump 1.00 1.00 D 10 Ercole 1.7 1.7 D 10 LDOS 2.6 1.10 D 11 Lserial 2.20 1.00 D 12 Turbo 1.9 1.9 D 12 Turbo Plus 2.00 2.00 13 PowerBobs N/A 1.00 D 14 The Game Extension N/A 0.4b 15 D-SAM 1.01 N/A 15 Delta N/A 1.4 D 15 DOOM Music (DME) N/A 2.00 D 16 Easylife 1.44 1.10 D 17 Sticks 1.00 N/A 17 Falcon N/A -??- 17 Locale N/A 0.26 D 17 MakeLib N/A 1.2 D 18 CRAFT 1.00 1.00 18 JD-Int N/A 1.3 D 19 MusicCraft 1.00 1.00 19 JD-K3 N/A 1.1 D 20 Stars 2.23b 2.23b D 20 JD-COLOUR N/A 2.00 D 20 OS DevKit N/A 1.59 20 THX N/A 0.6 21 Opal -??- N/A D 21 JD-PRT N/A 2.00 D 22 JD N/A 5.90 D 22 Jotre N/A -??- 22 Second-Hand Extension N/A 0.01d6 23 Colours N/A 1.00 D 23 JADE N/A -??- 23 MISC N/A -??- D 23 Tools N/A 1.01 D 24 Diagnostics -??- N/A 24 GUI N/A 1.70b S 24 SLN N/A 2.00 D 25 Intuition 1.00 1.00 D 25 P61 N/A 1.2 S 25 TFT N/A 0.6 D 25 JVP-NoKids N/A 1.01 D --------------------------------------------------------------- FLGS: D=Download availeble, S=Suportsite-link --------------------------------------------------------------- Further informations on the extensions listed is online at http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ --------------------------------------------------------------- This Extensionlist compiled: 31. Marts 1998 (C) Jens Vang Petersen (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) --------------------------------------------------------------- -- Kind regards from ______________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -+- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -+- -+- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA - STARTREK TNG -+- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability. -- Oscar Wilde ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 08:54:35 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 08:54:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13249 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:54:34 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14025 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:33:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14022 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA23829 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17799 invoked by alias); 1 Apr 1998 11:49:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 9132 invoked from network); 31 Mar 1998 04:21:16 -0000 Received: from 1cust175.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.175) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 1998 04:21:16 -0000 Message-ID: <003c01bd5c5c$7ddb1ba0$af10fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Amos Mail Post" Cc: "Mr. Giark to You" , "Andrew Kellett" Subject: Parrottsoft beta site. Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:21:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Hey: To those who haven't filled out my little questionare as to the previous design of the (Parrottsoft) website, please do so. I only received a few replies, and without your input, not much will be done (or much MAY be done, but you might not like it!) Since I posed the questions in a paragraph before, here's a quick questionare redone in survey form (Y/N): ( ) Did you enjoy viewing the old pages? ( ) How did you like the style/motif? ( ) Did it take too long to download the pages and/or their dependencies? ( ) Is there anything you would change or add to the site, whether it be layout, graphics, design or the like? If so, what? Do you use Amiga or PC? Amiga IBM/PC Other What speed is your computer? 68000 020 030 040 060 Other What speed connection did you view the pages? 14.4 28.8 33.6 56k+ What browser did you use? Netscape IE IBrowse Voyager AWeb Other Please add any other pertinent information here: _____________________ --End of questionare-- Fill it out and send it back using the reply address That should do it for the survey. Another thing: The Parrottsoft beta site is up and almost ready for show. If you want to see it (the pages for it will be done in a few days), goto http://parrottsoft.hypermart.net. This beta site will mirror the pages off the Tripod pages for a bit, and may become the new Offical site for Parrottsoft (although undecided, the reason for this is that the space at Hypermart is also free, comes with a COOL URL, offers free CGI scripting and more space than Tripod). If the beta site at Hypermart becomes the Official site, I'll let you know (and the existing Tripod and GeoCities pages would mirror those on Hypermart). Again, the move is just a possibility. Anything official will be posted. Anyhow, thanks for reading. Be sure to send me any of your questions and questions, and be sure to send in that survey! Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 01:33:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Apr 1 01:33:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10592 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:33:38 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10801 for amos-out; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:11:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10798 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:11:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA04644 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from (mirex.demon.co.uk) [158.152.68.125] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yKFoJ-00051L-00; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:11:40 +0100 Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003za; Tue, 31 Mar 98 15:34:00 GMT Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 15:34:00 GMT Message-Id: <9803311534.AA003z5@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <2614cde2.u10t12e.57c8b-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <598.394T2973T9125026@bahnhof.se> (from "Jonas Thorell" ) (at 31 Mar 98 15:12:59 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk (Keith Hill) (Keith Hill) To: jonasth@bahnhof.se Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: interlace bug? Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Jonas, > Keith Hill (Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk) wrote: > >May the bug rot in silicon hell with all the photocopiers. > Someone's been watching too much Red Dwarf lately... Whaddya mean, lately ? | "A stasis leak, to put it into your _ _ _ _ _ _ | basic laymans terms, is a leak, right, |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | IN stasis, hence the term, a stasis |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | leak." - Holly | "You don't know do you 'Hol ?" | "No I don't." - Holly --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 21:09:46 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 21:09:46 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25506 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:09:46 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17393 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17390 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netwave.net (mail.netwave.net [207.112.132.11]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11039 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pppsrs1.netwave.net (pppsrs1.netwave.net [209.100.37.1]) by mail.netwave.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17735; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:34:33 -0600 Date: 31 Mar 98 10:09:27 -0600 From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" Subject: Re: more GUI questions To: "Alastair Murray" In-Reply-To: <35204FB4.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: <2292.394T1353T6093978@netwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Alastair Murray digitized on 30-Mar-98 19:06:44: AM> With the GUI extension. AM> Can you find the name of label of a gadget (buttons particularly) AM> so you don't have to find it's ID? AM> Is the ID set in Gad Tools Box? (If so where is it set?) AM> Can you not change menus? AM> For examples I've got a tick box menu where I want one of the AM> following to be selected at any point in time. (Exactly one, not AM> zero or 2,3,4) AM> None AM> Minimum AM> Medium AM> Full AM> The thing is I can set up Gad Tools Box so that only one can be AM> selected at a time but I can't set it up so the user cannot turn AM> them ALL off. Which is no good. This may be a silly idea, but why can't you just have the last three settings and if none are selected, then that is equivalant to 'None'? AM> Thanks, AM> -Murray AM> -- AM> Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net AM> Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray AM>|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AM>|~~~| AM>| ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- AM>| | AM>| game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator AM>| | AM>|game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II AM>| | AM>| game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game AM>| Creator| AM>| dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG AM>| Assault| AM>| pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | AM>| | AM>| game/shoot/KillEmAll | | AM>| | AM> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AM> ~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of AM> gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - AM> Children's Encyclopedia 1926 Greets, - Rand -- ______ ________________________ //// | _ \ _____ ___ __ _____ mailto:rand@netwave.net //// | [_} )(___ \ ( \ | ( _ \ http://www.netwave.net/members/rand | _ ( / __ \ | \| | |_} ) //// |__| \___)(_______(__|\____(_____/ \\\\//// "Growl for me, Worf. Show me you still care." - Q From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 20:11:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 20:11:43 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23643 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:11:43 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16246 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16243 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-14-190.cas-kitchener.golden.net [209.183.130.190]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14677 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp14-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.63]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA02319 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:47:06 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:46:41 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: AMOS rumour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 29-Mar-98, Goran Cengic wrote: >I just wonder have anyone of you heard rumour about new version of AMOS that >is being produced ? It's no rumour. In fact, the first bugfix of the amos.library is already out! Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 20:45:00 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 31 20:45:00 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28441 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:44:59 -0500 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21979 for amos-out; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21976 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28673 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from p36-cuckoo-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.59.216]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP id AAA16622 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:17:07 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 31 Mar 98 21:56:08 +0100 Subject: Re: Zones 2 Message-Id: <35216677.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > > Use the same technique I said except use Text Length(T$) to get the > > width in pixels of the text. > > Remember that if the font has height H and you do Text X,Y,A$ > > Then the top left of the text is at X,Y-H and the bottom right is at > > X+Text Length(A$),Y. > > Just set a zone to these coords. > > NO !! The UL-corner of text is NOT in Y-H, it's in Y-Text Base... > eg. for topaz-8 (standard) the height is 8, but the text base is 7.. OK. Sorry. I forgot about the curly bits on letters like y right? Then instead you should have: X, Y-H+1 to X+Text Length(A$),Y+1 Sound right? -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | | | game/shoot/KillEmAll | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926