Subject: Bob Shell's Socorro Report
Bob Shell's Socorro Report
Hi everyone,
I got back from Socorro yesterday and am still a bit jet-lagged.
LOTS of news. First of all, the records of the Socorro newspaper are complete
for over 100 years, but the issues from May 10 to June 15 of 1947 are missing!
They were supposedly burned in a mysterious fire in the 60s, which destroyed
ONLY those issues. That alone would be suspicious, but EVERY OTHER newspaper in
the area is missing issues for that time period as well!!!!!! That really
stretches the range of coincidence, I would say. One local newspaper editor told
me that she had been searching for newspapers for that time period for years
without success. The state historical society doesn't have them and neither do
any of the universities. The only hope is that some private collector somewhere
has them.
Mike Hesemann was with me for two days and we went and interviewed one of the
eye witnesses to the fireball which came down on May 31, 1947. She is a Native
American and told us that many of her people saw this, but probably wouldn't
talk to outsiders about it. Her people consider seeing a UFO as a very bad omen
usually associated with the death of someone close. Her memory of the fireball
is very clear. It was larger in apparent size than the sun, white in color, and
did not have a "tail" behind it. It was flaming around the edges, she said,
like it was on fire. It passed straight across the sky over Gallup where she
was in the direction of Socorro. It made no sound. Mike made a video of our
interview and we may show it at some conferences. Because they do not want to
be pestered, I have agreed to keep the names of all witnesses and people I
interview confidential. In the case of this lady, she could get in trouble with
her tribal council for talking about this to outsiders.
I spent a day in Magdalena (which is 28 miles from Socorro at the edge of the
Magdalena Mountains where the crash happened). There is an elderly man there
who is the local "historian". He remembers that in the summer of 1947 a local
rancher came into town very excited because a spaceship had crashed on his land.
He had a piece of it in the back of his pickup truck and they took it to the
local garage where they tried to cut it. Nothing, not even a welding torch, had
any effect on it. Unfortunately the rancher is long since dead and no one today
knows what happened to this piece of material. It may still be in a shed
somewhere.
There was a soil scientist assigned to the district in those days named Fleck.
That same summer Fleck stumbled across a crashed UFO while on his rounds. He is
dead also, but his wife is still living and he told the story to many people for
years. His crash site was about ten miles from Magdalena toward the Plains of
San Agustine which is also where the Santilli cameraman's site is.
I spoke in a "conference call" with the cameraman last Wednesday and got
specific directions to the crash site from him. No one so far has even been
close to the site. He says that the military convoy picked up some people in
Socorro and then drove SW on Route 60 for one hour at about 40 - 45 mph. This
puts them about ten miles or so past Magdalena (Magdalena is about 28 miles from
Socorro).
After driving on Rt 60 they turned left onto a dirt road marked by a heavy wood
gate and wood fence. This road was described as "hugging the mountains" and
very treacherous. Four or five miles down this road they crossed a wooden
bridge over a steep canyon. (The cameraman says he went back to the site
fifteen years ago and the old bridge was collapsed and the road re-routed down
into the canyon.) They drove for about 45 minutes or so on this road at speeds
which could not have been more than 15 mph and came to a dry lake bed. The
crash was on the north side of this lake bed.
The area about ten miles out from Magdalena is full of dry lake beds, and is the
only area for miles which has them. I spent considerable time at the School of
Mines at the University of NM in Socorro looking at USGS maps trying to find out
which road this was, but had no luck since features like wood bridges are not
shown.
All of this land is National Forest land (even though much of it is high desert
and not forest), so I next went to the National Forest office in Magdalena to
interview the rangers and see if any of them knew which road this was. None of
them have been there for a really long time, so none knew of a wood bridge in
the 40s or 50s. They did not know of one in ruins either, so it may have been
dismantled and hauled off for the wood. Unfortunately, the area is full of dry
lake beds, so figuring out which one it was may be difficult.
I couldn't stay longer and had only a standard rental car this trip so I
couldn't check out the roads. The cameraman advised me against trying to drive
this road in a regular car since it was rough going for the military jeeps.
My plan at present is to return to the area as soon as I have some free time,
rent a jeep, and try the roads along that stretch of Rt 60 one by one.
I'd appreciate it if you would post this update for me to the usual internet
sites to let people know the progress of this investigation.
Bob
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IRI Press Release March 1996
From: koch@wad.berlin.fido.de (Joachim Koch)
Date: 02 Mar 96 21:35:00 +0000
Subject: IRI Press Release
Organization: Welt am Draht
International Roswell Initiative
3105 Gables Drive Atlanta, GA 30319 USA (404) 240-0655 Phone/Fax
RoswellDec@aol.com http://www.roswell.org
February 26, 1996
PRESS RELEASE -- IMMEDIATE
Subject:Major expose about the so-called "alien autopsy footage" in
the March issue of the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) Journal
It is estimated that over ten million people in the United States
watched the first broadcast of Fox networks "Alien Autopsy: Fact or
Fiction" last August. The highly skewed documentary featured film
footage supposedly showing the autopsy of an alien by the U.S.
military in 1947. The footage, which has been shown by television
networks worldwide, is claimed to have been acquired from the official
military cameraman who filmed the autopsy. Reportedly, the program is
going to be broadcast again, this time featuring an anonymous
"interview" with the alleged military cameraman.
The MUFON Journal article points out a myriad of discrepancies in the
film and brings to public attention two important offers of
verificafion which could settle the matter of the films authenticity
once and for all. Leaders of UFO organizations around the world
consider the film a hoax and are concerned about its potential damage
to the credibility of serious UFO research. The comprehensive MUFON
Journal article is being translated into a number of languages and, at
last count, will be published, either in part or in its entirety, by
UFO organizations in 14 countries -- Australia, Belgium, Canada,
Denmark, England, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Norway,
Spain, Sweden, and the United States.
The article contains some very enlightening information, not yet in
the public domain, about the alleged alien autopsy film. Graham
Birdsall, editor of UFO Magazine in the U.K., will officially reveal
the details of the article at a conference in Leads, England, on March
2, 1996. Birdsall, recently interviewed by British television on the
subject, expects extensive press coverage for the announcement.
The author of the article is Kent Jeffrey, coordinator of the
International Roswell Initiative (IRI). The IRI is a serious
grassroots organization with the goal of getting to the truth about
the 1947 Roswell UFO incident. The organization has already collected
over 20,000 signed copies of a declaration requesting an executive
order to declassify any government-held information on Roswell or the
UFO phenomenon in general. The signatories include two retired Air
Force generals and two former U.S. astronauts, one of whom walked
on the moon.
The following items are immediately available to interested
organizations or publications for release on or after March 2nd: a
copy of a letter from Graham Birdsall commenting on the importance of
the article; a copy of the article; and four eight-by-ten-inch black
and white photographs meant to accompany the article. One of the
photographs, "McGovern at Nagasaki" will be on the cover of the March
MUFON Journal. The International Roswell Initiative can be reached by
phone or fax at (404) 240-0655 or by email at .
The Mutual UFO Network is located at 103 Oldtowne Road, Seguin, TX
78155, and can be reached by phone at (210) 379-9216 or by fax at
(210) 372-9439.
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 13:37:19 -0800
From: veterick@ix.netcom.com (DAVE VETTERICK )
Subject: Roswell
To: rshapiro@interaccess.com
I enjoy your WWW site. I'm new to the Net. Got on specifically to
follow Roswell, Richard Hoagland's Face of Mars research, and Graham
Hancock's Finger Prints of the Gods research.
To the point....
Dan Berliner has done a report on Roswell. It is to be distributed to
the U.S. Congress and other "VIP's" in the next few weeks. Its funded
by L. Rockefeller (one of "THE" Rockefellers) & friend of President
Clinton.
He has asked Clinton to declare amnisty for anyone with Roswell info,
declassify Government files, etc. This comes even after Congressman
Schiff's effort through the GAO.
If Congress and Clinton follow thru it could have a major impact on all
UFO related research & subjects.
I don't understand why there isn't more discussion about this in the
UFO WWW sites.
Are you aware of this ? Can you help get the word out ?
Dave Vetterick
veterick@ix.netcom.com
Editor's Note: After I received Dave's email, he faxed me the supporting
information to his question about Berliner's report ... it includes
two articles and a letter from Stanton Friedman (which I will paraphrase).
To see this additional information click HERE!
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