From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Dec 31 22:41:15 1997 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Dec 31 22:41:15 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29702 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 22:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA11313 for amos-out; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11310 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05059 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port19.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.119]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01089 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:54:46 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 10:15:17 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: GOOD Programmer Wanted+Other.. QWAK 2 productions starts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id UAA11311 Status: RO X-Status: I'm looking for a good programmer (GOOD), who will get 10% (possibly 20%) of the profit made from the game (expected outcome (from Team17's accountants) is in excess off 500 pounds ($1000). Anyway, the majority of the main graphics are finished (the main characters, eggs, a few of the backgrounds and a nice juicy amiga logo). I will need from this programmer: A level editor A DEMO version of the game (containing 8 levels, which I can quickly make in the level editor). And the full game. There will be a total of 80 levels, 8 different types of landscapes, a plot, and blah blah blah. I may also need a musician as I am having trouble with creating the correct sort of tune. Yes, I know this sounds like I'm pushy, but this game has a deadline, and a price tag to go with it. Other things: 2 player support (two joysticks running at the same time). A frame rate of AT LEAST 25fps, preferably 50, but this IS AMOS we're talking about. A short introduction (animated by me), and a fairly large ending. Other people who are needed for production: *SOMEBODY WITH A SOUND SAMPLER *SOMEBODY WHO CAN MAKE CUTE MUSIC *AN ASSISTANT SCRIPT WRITER Thankyou for you time, and I hope to receive your help :) +---------------------------------------------------------+ | *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS *** --- Jamie Bentley | +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Pro-Animation/Gfx/ANY SYSTEM | | 3D modeling and anything required... | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ***************************** Mail me and you'll * sniper@technet2000.com.au * get a reply :) ***************************** (Obviously.. Derr) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 2 18:03:43 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 2 18:03:43 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22955 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23080 for amos-out; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23077 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from Grynet.passagen.se (grynet.passagen.se [194.17.55.99]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11942 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:38:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [130.239.8.215] (ipcs6-1.modem.umu.se [130.239.8.215]) by Grynet.passagen.se (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA20557 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 22:37:53 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801022137.WAA20557@Grynet.passagen.se> Subject: New Extension Date: Fri, 2 Jan 98 22:37:58 +0100 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Timo Engman To: "AMOS List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Status: O X-Status: Hello. I'm Timo Engman, and programming a new extension - which is called "Second-Hand Extension", the current version is 0.01d6 but please, all AMOSPro users - mail me and let me hear if I may add new commands to this extension that the users want...For now, the extension have five commands :-) pretty lame. But I learning how to program the graphics... Bmove adr,x - move bytes quick as hell much faster than Poke (no checking) Wmove adr,x - same here but words much faster than Doke Lmove adr,x - same here but longwords , faster than Loke I mean 4-5 times faster !!! and then two shitty commands Shand Version Shand Stage$ The extension uses slot 22 but mail me and I may change it to whatever. Check the aminet/dev/amos/ for this extension...later... Maybe I mail the .Lib file soon, to the Mailing List. A Problem 1: How to return a string from a routine (and change it's length) from it, the string is in the extension dc.w TheLength dc.b "TheString",0 even Problem 2: How to get a pointer from the extension in assembler, typically i want the pointer for a variable, same as Varptr(variable) and pointer for an array, same as Varptr(var(array)) Hope that all peoples understanding my bad english (I'm swedish)...And those people who don't like the assembler language. /Timo Engman From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 06:25:48 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 06:25:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16771 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 06:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27364 for amos-out; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 04:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27361 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 04:42:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (F66.hotmail.com [207.82.250.152]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA17674 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 04:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15159 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jan 1998 09:42:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19980103094208.15158.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.18.196.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Jan 1998 01:42:07 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.18.196.23] From: "Ragnar Fyri" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Cc: tilbake@hotmail.com Subject: HNY etc. Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 01:42:07 PST Status: RO X-Status: First of all, Happy New Year to everyone. Second of the rest, the files I mentioned last time are now on Aminet (thanks, Martin!) so I have removed them from my web site. Third, here's a little Pro routine I whipped up some time ago (based on an even smaller routine I found on the list). Have fun! 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Thank you. We'll be right back after these messages. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 13:52:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 13:52:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29521 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00945 for amos-out; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 12:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00942 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 12:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08425 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 12:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2003051; 3 Jan 98 17:25 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Adam Parrott , sniper@technet2000.com.au CC: Amos Mail Post Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:33:07 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000801bd1404$7422bbe0$e111fed0@acer200> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: Car GAMES? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id MAA00943 Status: O X-Status: On Monday 29-Dec-97 at 02:49:55, a nutter named Adam Parrott had wet pants when they typed about `Re: Car GAMES?'. Hi Adam (and everyone else...) >As a matter of fact, Andy Gibson I believe it was (a fellow AMOSer and >Lister) coded an AWESOME 3D racing game of sorts with TONS of graphics >and sounds (which I haven't tried yet, hehe, but the screenshots were >COOL!). I don't have his URL right now, but if you'll wait (or he sees >this message), I'm sure one of us could get it to you. It's a must >see. Many thanx for just thinking that I was responsible for that game! However, I am not :( To be honest, I don't even know what game it is, nor have I seen it!!! I'd love to though.... :^) So just who was responsible and what's it called? Tarra, Andy Gibson BDW The way my coding is turning ouut these days, I'd be struggling to code a Pac Man clone, never mind a Super Road Racer :( I'm in one of those, `Can't Be Arsed Coding!' moods ya see :) -- +----/¯¯¯¯|--/¯¯¯¯|--/¯¯¯¯|--/¯¯¯¯|-::::::.--------------------------+ ¦ / /¯| | / /¯| | / /¯¯¯ / /¯| | :: ::--Andy-Gibson-(SKiDZ/A51)-¦ ¦ / /¯¯¯ |/ /¯¯¯_|/ /¯¯¯¯|/ /¯¯¯ | :::. :: ¦ ¦ / /¯¯¯| | /¯¯\ \/ /¯¯¯¯¯/ /¯¯¯| | :: ::-andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk-¦ +/_/----|_|/----\/_/¯¯¯¯¯¯|/----|_|-.::: ::--------------------------+ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ - - -- --- --- ----> sUPP0RTING aMIGA! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 21:20:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 21:20:51 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13579 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04098 for amos-out; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 20:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04095 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 20:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA10074 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 20:17:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from dcandy.demon.co.uk ([158.152.244.21]) by post.mail.demon.net id ad2014586; 4 Jan 98 1:15 GMT Received: by dcandy.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00kww; Sat, 3 Jan 98 00:03:39 GMT Date: Sat, 3 Jan 98 00:03:39 GMT Message-Id: <9801030003.AA00kwv@dcandy.demon.co.uk> X-MailViewer: RRR/DIGITAL CANDY E-Mail From: I was here To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Amos Tutorial offer Status: O X-Status: Hi ALL, I'm the editor of Amiga Information Online where the latest issue is available from my Web site at :- - Http://www.dcandy.demon.co.uk/aio/ - Or you can download it from the Aminet under the draw - Docs/Mags/AIOV?.lha - ? = Issue number - Current issue 9 - Anyway, as I have been interested in Amos since about 1993 and have coded a few bits and bobs in Amos and in Amiga E I would like to know if anyone is interested in doing an amos tutorial each issue. As i am currently not allowed to subscribe to the Amos mailing list I would appreciate it if you wanted to do a tutorial email me for an information pack at :- - Cool@Dcandy.demon.co.uk - Subject : AmosSP#1 - All you have to write in the message is - "Request AmosSP#1" - No other details. - Thanks for your time! P.s. Where did everyone go from #amos? I havn't been on the i'net for around 1 year and now #amos on IRC is empty normally! :( - Chris Seward - Editor Of Amiga Information Online Available from : Aminet Docs/Mags/AIOV?.lha | Member of Team *AMIGA* WWW : Http://www.dcandy.demon.co.uk/aio/ Email : Cool@Dcandy.demon.co.uk . _________ ................... ________ |\\ //__________::_______________::__________\\ (_ l_\\ :: :: : .___\ :: :: | | dIGITAL CANdY BBS ON tHE MOVE | | :: :: | | Move Date: 6th April 97 | | New Number: +44 (0)1889 579-854 | | :: :: | |_ support the:move - support the uk scene | _:// :: :: | \ \\\| .__. :: :: .__. :/ ! l__| :: :: l__| /: _|__________/__________::_______________::____________________|_ : // :: ::tG : ::...............:: From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 15:25:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 15:25:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27028 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA01285 for amos-out; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01282 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12140 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:11:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16245 invoked by alias); 3 Jan 1998 18:11:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 16231 invoked from network); 3 Jan 1998 18:11:04 -0000 Received: from 1cust242.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.242) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 3 Jan 1998 18:11:04 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01bd1872$ac5175c0$f210fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Andy Gibson" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: Car GAMES? Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 12:08:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > Many thanx for just thinking that I was responsible for that game! > However, I am not :( To be honest, I don't even know what game it is, nor > have I seen it!!! I'd love to though.... :^) So just who was responsible > and what's it called? Tarra, Andy Gibson hehe, _sorry_ about that. We have two (or three) Andy's on this List (that I know of), and the one I was referring to was Andrew _Hawkins_ (Mr. GeoSync Software). HE'S the one I meant. Ooops. He HASNT, however, been frequenting the List alot lately, neither mailing nor CBATNAM, so I haven't a _CLUE_ where he is. If anyone wants his URL, I can get it to you. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 16:28:31 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 16:28:31 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24866 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA01319 for amos-out; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01316 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville (cisco12-202.cas.golden.net [209.29.14.202]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12820 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp31-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.80]) by hicksville (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA29310 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:42:06 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 13:46:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: You lazy bums! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Look at that! I get a new computer and have some hd difficulties and work on Cap'n bubba and the Nasty Alien Menace drops off. Do I have to whip you lot every day? Q8-{) Anyway, I am getting back to normal slowly. Still no SCSI controller to access all my AMOS stuff. EJ - Music done? Braneloc - Intro anim? Adam - Ever? Looks like the base system for the game will be moving to 020 minimum. Those of you bitching about speed should be happy. In any case, how about some update messages from the IAPA? I have most of the code. I just want to hear from the team. 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(519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 19:37:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 19:37:51 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12078 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03355 for amos-out; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03352 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10221 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:13:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 139 invoked by alias); 3 Jan 1998 23:08:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 118 invoked from network); 3 Jan 1998 23:08:42 -0000 Received: from 1cust87.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.87) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 3 Jan 1998 23:08:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000401bd189c$39a19ee0$5710fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Mr. Giark To You" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: You lazy bums! Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:06:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > Look at that! I get a new computer and have some hd difficulties and work > on Cap'n bubba and the Nasty Alien Menace drops off. Do I have to whip > you lot every day? Q8-{) hehe, funny funny.. _EXCUSE ME_. I HAVE been working FULL TIME over the Break (several hours a day) getting _MUCH_ accomplished, just no updates or demos yet (although on the way within the week). Don't start YOUR bitching. As I said when we chatted last night, my level is about 60% done. You may have to wait alittle longer as I just sent off my registration to Chris (Hodges) for AMCAF, and I may end up using some of it's commands (C2P). > Anyway, I am getting back to normal slowly. > Still no SCSI controller to access all my AMOS stuff. hehe, just a side point: Were you _EVER_ ("back" to) normal? :) > Looks like the base system for the game will be moving to 020 minimum. > Those of you bitching about speed should be happy. In any case, how about > some update messages from the IAPA? I have most of the code. One thing: I can't send _ANYTHING_ until I get the music from EJ I need (That would be aLL of it EJ, hehe). Speed is also a big factor in my level, so bumping up the speed requirements is a must (BESIDES, who's _really_ going to be playing this on anything less that an '020, i.e. a 68000, hm?) > I just want to hear from the team. Well, you're hearing from them now. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 21:01:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 21:01:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21248 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04045 for amos-out; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04042 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet11.ozemail.com.au (oznet11.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.118]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01550 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from archie ([203.38.10.175]) by oznet11.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA09559 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:50:49 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34AEDD4D.6B5E@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 08:52:29 +0800 From: geosync@ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: AMOS Car Games Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello all, > > Many thanx for just thinking that I was responsible for that game! > > However, I am not :( To be honest, I don't even know what game it is, nor > > have I seen it!!! I'd love to though.... :^) So just who was responsible > > and what's it called? Tarra, Andy Gibson > > hehe, _sorry_ about that. We have two (or three) Andy's on this List (that > I know of), and the one I was referring to was Andrew _Hawkins_ (Mr. > GeoSync Software). HE'S the one I meant. Ooops. He HASNT, however, been > frequenting the List alot lately, neither mailing nor CBATNAM, so I haven't > a _CLUE_ where he is. If anyone wants his URL, I can get it to you. Okay I`m fessin` up. Firstly I`ve been reading the List Messages just about every day, I`ve just been secretly plotting against YOU ALLLLL HAH HAH HAH HAH---just kidding. Secondly, I wrote game engine called Rally World which maybe the racing game you`re talking about. If so the details of this engine are a little different to Lotus Esprit. I`m using polygons and bitmaps to create the 3d effect. I think Lotus Esprit uses clever line scrolling, which I have a basic idea of how its done but I think you`d have to do some clever programming to simulate this. You could use the Turbo R Bar command I guess. Actually the Bar command would work well to create voxel landscapes. Anyway, I`m going to use the Rally World engine to do a Car Wars game for about June 98. Any suggestions (except where to go, flames etc.) would be greatly appreciated. Cheers crew, Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 22:18:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 3 22:18:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22491 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 22:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04116 for amos-out; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 20:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04113 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 20:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA06256 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 20:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.65) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sat, 03 Jan 1998 20:46:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: You lazy bums! Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 20:55:28 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Look at that! I get a new computer and have some hd difficulties and > work on Cap'n bubba and the Nasty Alien Menace drops off. Do I have > to whip you lot every day? Q8-{) Hmmm... well, you're definitely back. > Anyway, I am getting back to normal slowly. Still no SCSI controller > to access all my AMOS stuff. Well get on it!! The last deadline has come and gone. We're now in 1998 and you still haven't released the final CBATNAM game!! ;-) > Looks like the base system for the game will be moving to 020 > minimum. Those of you bitching about speed should be happy. Has someone been bitching about speed? :) On 68020s running at 14MHz or higher (which probably represents 95%+ of Amiga-users) the sideshooter will be fast and intense. After you compile with the ProCompiler (my brother just reminded me of this), the stage will be fairly fast on A500 machines. I forgot about that... after purchasing my A1200clone I switched to Amos Compilerv1.36 to remove the "glitches". The ProCompiler only gives me around an 8% speed increase (over the AC1.36) as the gfx- updates are taking up the majority of a frame where on stock A500s, the ProC has more "room" to improve the performance. Combining this with the fact that the stage is now faster on ALL machines due to a few modifications I've made, the A500-users should almost be satisfied... hopefully. > any case, how about some update messages from the IAPA? I have > most of the code. I just want to hear from the team. You are hearing from me... BTW- I will make a few modifications to my source and send you the new "revised" version. Nothing major really, just need to "beef-up" the audio-feedback in the FinalBossBattle phase... I was debating whether to bother or not, but since you aren't able to do anything yet I might as well "fix" this lacking. It can only make the final game a bit better. Take care, GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA & IBM): 0% complete "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 35% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 4 00:01:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 4 00:01:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01594 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 00:01:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA05750 for amos-out; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05747 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from radiks.net (sr.radiks.net [205.138.126.6]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24579 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from skid-vis (dial74.radiks.net [205.138.126.178]) by radiks.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA06133 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 22:12:48 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980103222222.006997b0@radiks.net> X-Sender: skid@radiks.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 22:22:22 -0600 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: skid Subject: non-AGA 1200's? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: Hey all, How goes it? I have a simple non-amos related question. Has anyone ever heard of any non-AGA A1200's ever being made? I have never EVER been able to play any AGA games on mine.. I can view HAM8 images and set up for 256 colors at once.. but I could never play AGA games.. my screen gets all garbled. Any clues? --------------------------------- ICQ# 1860019 --------------------------------- "To Transcendence and BEYOND!!!" skid@angelic.com http://www.radiks.net/skid/ --------------------------------- Proud member of: Team *AMOS* http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/ --------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 4 01:07:53 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 4 01:07:53 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19763 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06951 for amos-out; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 00:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06948 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 00:36:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA15863 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 00:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2025874; 4 Jan 98 5:34 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA002yi; Sun, 4 Jan 98 05:35:52 GMT Date: Sun, 4 Jan 98 05:35:52 GMT Message-Id: <9801040535.AA002yd@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25a2e0b5.u10t12e.9950c-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from "Mr. Giark To You" ) (at Sat, 03 Jan 1998 13:46:26 -0500) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: You lazy bums! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id AAA06949 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Mr., > Look at that! I get a new computer and have some hd difficulties and work on > Cap'n bubba and the Nasty Alien Menace drops off. Do I have to whip you lot > every day? Q8-{) Umm... > Anyway, I am getting back to normal slowly. Still no SCSI controller to access > all my AMOS stuff. > > EJ - Music done? > Braneloc - Intro anim? Current status: Slow progression. Very slow what with Christmas and all that other stuff messing everyone around and being dead boring. There WILL be an intro anim, no matter what happens. I just hope it'll end up long enough to be used. > adam - Ever? > Looks like the base system for the game will be moving to 020 minimum. Those > of you bitching about speed should be happy. In any case, how about some > update messages from the IAPA? I have most of the code. I just want to hear > from the team. Ok, next code update will be with you shortly, unless there are any changes to be made, along with new level design. You'll like some of the new animation. One thing that would make all of us wake up, is another demo release, from anyone ! _ _ _ _ _ _ | Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #34 |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | Peace is good for business. |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #35 | War is good for business. --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 4 16:49:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 4 16:49:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26509 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:49:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16159 for amos-out; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 15:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16156 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 15:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03840 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 15:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5581 invoked by alias); 4 Jan 1998 20:21:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 5561 invoked from network); 4 Jan 1998 20:21:56 -0000 Received: from 1cust45.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.45) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 4 Jan 1998 20:21:56 -0000 Message-ID: <002001bd194e$1897ffc0$2d10fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Keith Hill" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: You lazy bums! Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:19:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > Ok, next code update will be with you shortly, unless there are any > changes to be made, along with new level design. You'll like some of the > new animation. One thing that would make all of us wake up, is another > demo release, from anyone ! I'm planning on this (so that means updating a couple more times, Giark!) Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 5 01:55:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 5 01:55:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA05551 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA17313 for amos-out; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 00:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA17310 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 00:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11823 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 00:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port24.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.124]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11253 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:54:31 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 13:48:43 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: FREE MUSIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id AAA17311 Status: RO X-Status: Hi all, I am extending my offer for free SOUNDTRACK music (meaning I must have access to all 4 channels). I am especially good at moody (atmospheric) songs and of course, fast music (especially techno), but I can handle most other types. Also, if you need any soundfx, just give me a buzz, now that I have my digitizer going (I already have in excess of 50 meg of sound fx). Speech etc, but don't expect me to make a song with somebody singing in it, unless your paying for the singer :) Jamie Bentley P.S: Still need a programmer for Qwak 2 - Return of the Duckies +---------------------------------------------------------+ | *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS *** --- Jamie Bentley | +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Pro-Animation/Gfx/ANY SYSTEM | | 3D modeling and anything required... | | Professional music in S3M, Xm, Protracker, MED/OSS, AON | +---------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 5 17:31:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 5 17:31:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11030 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:31:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17794 for amos-out; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17791 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgi.inet.tele.dk (cgi.inet.tele.dk [194.182.149.95]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23357 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20476 invoked from network); 5 Jan 1998 20:32:05 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by cgi.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 5 Jan 1998 20:32:05 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.38]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA37816; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:32:04 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Timo Engman CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 21:24:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199801022137.WAA20557@Grynet.passagen.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New Extension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 02-Jan-98, Timo Engman smashed the keyboard with: >Hello. >I'm Timo Engman, and programming a new extension - which is called >"Second-Hand Extension", the current version is 0.01d6 but please, all >AMOSPro users - mail me and let me hear if I may add new commands to this >extension that the users want...For now, the extension have five commands >:-) pretty lame. But I learning how to program the graphics... >The extension uses slot 22 but mail me and I may change it to whatever. >Check the aminet/dev/amos/ for this extension...later... >Maybe I mail the .Lib file soon, to the Mailing List. I've added your extension to the extensionlist at my site, if you'd like to see what slots are used and for what you can always drop by :)) --- >A Problem 1: How to return a string from a routine (and change it's >length) from it, the string is in the extension >dc.w TheLength >dc.b "TheString",0 >even You need to ask for memory and then build the right structure, when looking at the string the first 2 bytes (word) holds the length of the string, then at the 3rd byte the string itselve starts. You can see this by trying to define a string in AMOS and then do a Deek(Varptr(W$)-2), that'll return the 'len'.. Here's a way to do it: First you ask for the stringspace (needed length in both d3 & d0) ;Ask for string space... and.w #$FFFE,d3 * Only EVEN! addq.w #2,d3 Rjsr L_Demande lea 2(a1,d3.w),a1 move.l a1,HiChaine(a5) move.l a0,STa_d(pc) * Store adress move.w d0,(a0)+ * Store length Now the structure-adress of the new string is placed in a locale data-area to be returned to the caller, and the room for the string itselve is pointed by a0, be carefull not to swap these as they differs by 2 bytes !!!!.. Then create the string with the first character starting in the adress pointed by a0, and end your procedure with: move.l STa_d(pc),d3 ;Stringadress moveq.l #2,d2 ;Returning a string rts (Remeber to clean up the stack BEFORE you put this, I'd forgotten once, and the same bug can be found in the IO_devices 2.0) That should return the string to the caller.. --- >Problem 2: How to get a pointer from the extension in assembler, >typically i want the pointer for a variable, same as Varptr(variable) and >pointer for an array, same as Varptr(var(array)) I havn't got a clue, I've been looking for a solve for the same problem some time. I think it's hidden somewhere in the include files that comes with AMOSPro.. Unfortunaly they're not very well documented.. --- >Hope that all peoples understanding my bad english (I'm swedish)...And >those people who don't like the assembler language. And I'm danish, so that isn't much better :) -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ Nyvej 8, DK-4450 Jyderup, Denmark /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ top_cat@post8.tele.dk -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- AMOS Ring - AMIGA Ring - AQUA Ring -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foolproof operation = All parameters are hard coded. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 6 10:31:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 6 10:31:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21191 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:31:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA01405 for amos-out; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:44:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA01402 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA04891 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from PC_rwbenjamin.sosbbs.com (204.186.168.53) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 06 Jan 1998 07:41:48 -0500 Message-ID: Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: amos-list@access.digex.net MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Robert W. Benjamin" Subject: File Storage Areas Date: Tue, 06 Jan 98 07:34:43 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: I am in need of about 2 megs of file storage space, at a FTP site. Does anyone know of a good place to store files that can be downloaded (FTP) I tried Tripod but they won't download from there, because it's not an FTP site, AMINET is nothing but a nightmare anymore, it's always down, or so slow it makes connecting very hard, any help would be apreciated. Mush's site is only on at certain hours of the day, so it's out of the question also. Robert W. Benjamin ------------------------------------------------------ rwbenjamin@sosbbs.com http://www.sosbbs.com/~rwbenjamin From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 7 00:57:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 7 00:57:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23705 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA14727 for amos-out; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14724 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03092 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22095 invoked by alias); 7 Jan 1998 04:22:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 22067 invoked from network); 7 Jan 1998 04:22:01 -0000 Received: from 1cust111.tnt2.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.17.111) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 7 Jan 1998 04:22:01 -0000 Message-ID: <001001bd1b23$7896dc80$6f11fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Robert W. Benjamin" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: File Storage Areas Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:19:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > I am in need of about 2 megs of file storage space, at a FTP site. Hmm.. so I take it this is an _urgent_ need? What exactly for? > Does anyone know of a good place to store files that can be > downloaded (FTP) I tried Tripod but they won't download from > there, because it's not an FTP site.. Au contrare! (sp?.. On the contrary!) I have (and use) an account with Tripod (and Geocities for storage). They both have FTPs (my pages and website are on Tripod and have been for quite some time). Who says they have no FTP? (ftp.tripod.com, btw) I use it all the time! (hehe, and it's _quite_ more reliable, -etc.- than Geocities I might add..) Tripod (and Geocities, ick) both offer 2M of free space (just what you need? hehe), however Geocities doesn't really like (or condone) the use of their free space for storage (which is why I don't unless needed). > AMINET is nothing but a nightmare anymore, it's always down, or so slow > it makes connecting very hard, any help would be apreciated. Mush's site > is only on at certain hours of the day, so it's out of the question also. Yea, you could say that about Aminet (of course some of the UK mirrors aren't _TOO_ bad compared to wustl). As for Mush's FTP, I think he's working on getting a dedicated (extra) phone line for it, so as to keep it up around the clock 24-7 (you'll have to talk to him about the specifics). Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 7 00:21:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 7 00:21:13 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01263 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA14744 for amos-out; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14741 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA07068 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23123 invoked by alias); 7 Jan 1998 04:31:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 23112 invoked from network); 7 Jan 1998 04:31:26 -0000 Received: from 1cust111.tnt2.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.17.111) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 7 Jan 1998 04:31:26 -0000 Message-ID: <001401bd1b24$c94d4960$6f11fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Amos Mail Post" Cc: "Mr. Giark to You" Subject: CBATNAM doings. Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:29:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. Well, the Holiday Break is over (for me anyhow), and now I have to get back to work and my studies, SO, that means for a week or two (for a bit), I won't be able to spend as much time on CBATNAM as I'd like, but don't fret: I'm going to be getting to it as soon as possible (and, later this week, will be sending some updates on what's been happening in the Dungeon, hehe) For Keith and Mush (who's been away, when's he going to be back anyhow?): I'm going to get those graphics to you (screenshots for Mush and MIB shots for Keith). It would be easiest to get these to you on IRC (whilst chatting about them, explaining anything that you have any questions about, i.e. anything else you need). This means you guys telling me what times during the week are convient for you to be on (preferably around the same time). Sidenote: I've noticed there's not been much activity on the List lately (in the past few days, after the Holidays). What's going on here? Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 7 03:16:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 7 03:16:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09424 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 03:16:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA16331 for amos-out; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16328 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:29:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA19557 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2010794; 7 Jan 98 7:28 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA002zb; Wed, 7 Jan 98 07:29:56 GMT Date: Wed, 7 Jan 98 07:29:56 GMT Message-Id: <9801070729.AA002z6@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25a6eff2.u10t12e.10776-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <001401bd1b24$c94d4960$6f11fed0@acer200> (from "Adam Parrott" ) (at Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:29:00 -0600) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: parrottsoft@usa.net Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: CBATNAM doings. Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Adam, > For Keith and Mush (who's been away, when's he going to be back anyhow?): > I'm going to get those graphics to you (screenshots for Mush and MIB shots > for Keith). It would be easiest to get these to you on IRC (whilst chatting > about them, explaining anything that you have any questions about, i.e. > anything else you need). This means you guys telling me what times during > the week are convient for you to be on (preferably around the same time). When am I on IRC ? Good question. Maybe I should map out an activity table from the logs or something. It tends to be when I get a chance, so around 7am, 4pm, 6pm, midnight, or 3am or another time at complete random. All times UK.. ;-) > Sidenote: I've noticed there's not been much activity on the List lately > (in the past few days, after the Holidays). What's going on here? All the university people didn't do anything, the rest of us, ummm... > _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | 0x2b | ~0x2b |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 7 12:41:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 7 12:41:51 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24054 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22411 for amos-out; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:54:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22408 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville (cisco4-202.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.202]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09704 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp1-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.50]) by hicksville (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA31276 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:50:09 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 09:36:38 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <25a6eff2.u10t12e.10776-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: CBATNAM doings. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 07-Jan-98, Keith Hill wrote: >When am I on IRC ? >at complete random. About the same as me. >> Sidenote: I've noticed there's not been much activity on the List lately >> (in the past few days, after the Holidays). What's going on here? >All the university people didn't do anything, the rest of us, ummm... I've been busy with my 1200. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 8 07:29:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 8 07:29:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23913 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 07:29:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA22084 for amos-out; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 05:54:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22081 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 05:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefox.modusmedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA19523 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 05:54:37 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from [192.168.133.3] by firefox.modusmedia.com via smtpd (for pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) with SMTP; 8 Jan 1998 10:54:27 UT Received: from smtp1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.82]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA137 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 03:56:42 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp1.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 2) id 0000B91A; Thu, 8 Jan 98 03:50:13 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:08:57 -0700 Message-ID: <0000B91A.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: GUI Windows - a problem To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: I have two windows in my gui bank, window 1 being the main window and window being a sub window. I have configured Gad Tools to the format required for GUI, font size etc. When I convert and load the gui data into my program, the main window (1) displays perfectly. When I open the sub window (2) it uses the font etc. from my workbench settings. What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance. Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 9 21:23:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 9 21:23:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15728 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 21:23:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01377 for amos-out; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01374 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:54:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet07.ozemail.com.au (oznet07.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.122]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14732 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:54:42 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per2-42.space.net.au [203.38.11.212]) by oznet07.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA21793; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:54:38 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34B6C72B.20A9@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 08:56:11 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net CC: khisel@cucug.org Subject: StarFighter Screenshots Update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello, The latest screenshots for Star Fighter 1.f have been uploaded. You can see them at... http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geosync/scrnst3.htm Text browsers can download them at... http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geosync/textdl.htm [KEVIN] Please post an advertisement in your latest news section. Sincerely Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 11 18:19:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 11 18:19:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10607 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11515 for amos-out; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11512 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05623 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from login.eunet.no (login.eunet.no [193.71.1.4]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04882 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:44:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mortenbo@login.eunet.no) Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc26.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.26]) by login.eunet.no (8.8.6/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id WAA00629 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:44:30 +0100 (MET) From: Morten Bolstad To: AmosList Date: Sun, 08 Jan 1978 19:58:22 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Fading. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hello. I have a problem that i need some help on! I want to fade only a part of the screen, but i get a Syntax error when i tryed writing in Fade 0,10,10 to 100,100 I also checked with the help function i AmosPro, but it dident say anything abouth how to only fade parts of the Screen. Please help me!!!! Morten Bolstad. BTW: Any news on tje JADE extension?? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 11 21:11:27 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 11 21:11:26 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18505 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA12117 for amos-out; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12114 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA06086 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.72) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:08:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: Fading. Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:17:55 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: > I want to fade only a part of the screen, but i get a Syntax error > when i tryed writing in Fade 0,10,10 to 100,100 > I also checked with the help function i AmosPro, but it dident say > anything about how to only fade parts of the Screen. AMOS doesn't directly support this due to Amiga palettes being register-based. If you had a hi-color videocard then it should be possible, but then AMOS still wouldn't directly support that either... So, you have two (or three) real options: 1. Use a larger palette and use different color-ranges for the different parts of the screen. For example, if you wanted to fade each quarter of the screen independantly, you could use say a 32-color palette and allocate 8 colors for each quarter-screen section... ---------------- | A B | | C D | ---------------- if you only use colors 1-7 for A, colors 8-15 for B, colors 16-23 for C and colors 24-31 for D then you can simply use the fade command to fade in each section according to the colors used in that section. 2. A twist on this if you only need to seperate the screen vertically, then of course you can open multiple screens and fade each independantly (or horizontal sections of each screen seperately using the above technique). 3. Finally, you could generate a light-table consisting of color- references for each light-level: HUE_LT(ColorReg#, lightlevel) and actually remap the pixels in the rectangular area according to this light-table. You could use a simple palette-matching algorithm to build the LT, but the best results would probably be from hand-coded color-entries. The problem with this method is it will be quite slow in AMOS as the FadeArea routine would need to rely on Point/Plot to actually redraw the screen as it "fades"... This is similar to the way I implemented fading in my first IBM programming (QBasic) as I used EGA-mode which has a fixed 16-color palette. If you take a look on my webpage, you can find the source (in ASCII) which might be helpful if you are interested in this light-table method. Take care, GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA&IBM):15% complete(...3 days) "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 35% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 12 06:42:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 12 06:42:33 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18663 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA12804 for amos-out; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 03:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12801 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 03:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA21533 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 03:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31829 invoked by uid 1514); 12 Jan 1998 08:49:52 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:49:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Matt X-Sender: mattw@orca To: skid cc: Amos-List Subject: Re: amos copyright? In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980110111400.006aa9c0@radiks.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, skid wrote: > Hey all.. I was > browsing around the web when I found something that said AMOS.. > I thought it was the amiga amos but it ends up being some PC software > that has nothing to do with our AMOS.. > I was just curious.. is there some kind of copyright infringment going on? > the site is.. > http://www.coolstf.com/ I've come across this on my travels. I don't think it's called AMOS as such but its title is an acronym (I hope that's the word I'm looking for!) so it should be A.M.O.S. which wouldn't infringe on copyright. ### ### ######## ########### ########### #### #### ### ### ### ### ##!## ##!## #!# #!# #!# #!# !#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@! !@! !@! matt@netsoc.ucd.ie !!! ! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! x x :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: \__/ ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: :: :: :: :: : : From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 12 12:24:02 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 12 12:24:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22182 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA16412 for amos-out; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16409 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailserv.caiw.nl (mailserv.caiw.nl [194.178.9.133]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25416 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:05:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mailserv.caiw.nl (8.8.5/8.6.12) id QAA12644 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:04:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from t2nw179.caiw.nl(194.178.10.179) via SMTP by mailserv.caiw.nl, id smtpdAAAa12635; Mon Jan 12 16:04:55 1998 From: Donald Voogd Reply-To: Donald Voogd Date: 12 Jan 98 16:04:22 +0100 To: amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: (by: Matt ) Message-ID: Subject: AMOS History Page. Organization: Your organization or group X-Mailer: MiniMail 1.4b (2.7.96) (c) 1996 by Pelle Claesson of TheEnd Amiga (http://www.lls.se/~volley) Status: O X-Status: Hi people, Ever visited amos-history page at: http://www.caiw.nl/~dvoogd Greetings, Donald \ / \/oogd _ _____ / \ | \ | / FIDO..: 2:286/414.28 / - \ | \_|_/ E-mail: dvoogd@caiw.nl ----------------------------------------------- That's Artwave; An old name renewed! :) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 12 22:13:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 12 22:13:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15632 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA16361 for amos-out; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:31:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16358 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA25023 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27688 invoked from network); 13 Jan 1998 02:31:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.140) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 13 Jan 1998 02:31:02 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:34:00 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: OFFER IS CLOSED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id VAA16359 Status: RO X-Status: It was on the night of 08-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jamie jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "OFFER IS CLOSED" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Hi all, »-> I have closed the offer, since I have 4 or 5 people asking for tunes, and is »-> it A F#CKING HARD TASK. »-> Sorry to anybody who mails me after this, you won't get free music you'd have »-> to, forgive the expression.. "PAY FOR IT". »-> Anyway, cya! »-> P.S: Anybody want some 3D (AGA) hi-lace TITLES? LOGOS? Just give me a buzz :) Im always on the lookout for artists sending me interesting Mushroom PD logo's, and could do with some new ones for Extreme AMOS (hint to all ;)) Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 12 22:47:45 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 12 22:47:45 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01442 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA16366 for amos-out; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16363 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA15829 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28416 invoked from network); 13 Jan 1998 02:33:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.140) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 13 Jan 1998 02:33:17 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com, amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:36:14 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0000B91A.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: GUI Windows - a problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id VAA16364 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 08-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "GUI Windows - a problem" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> »-> I have two windows in my gui bank, window 1 being the main window and »-> window being a sub window. I have configured Gad Tools to the format »-> required for GUI, font size etc. When I convert and load the gui data »-> into my program, the main window (1) displays perfectly. When I open »-> the sub window (2) it uses the font etc. from my workbench settings. »-> What am I doing wrong? »-> Try running the GUI SENSITIVE OFF command before opening any windows, this should set it to the default topaz fonts. If you have it on, the system tries to adjust itself to your WB enviroment, and it doesnt always work too well, so I usually leave it turned off. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 12 23:11:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 12 23:11:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24883 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA16425 for amos-out; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16422 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23204 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3600 invoked from network); 13 Jan 1998 02:59:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lp15-12.redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.140) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 13 Jan 1998 02:59:08 -0000 Received: by mushypd.redrose.net (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00gw6; Mon, 12 Jan 98 21:56:21 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 21:56:21 GMT Message-Id: <9801122156.AA00gw5@mushypd.redrose.net> X-Comment: 10101010 X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10 X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997 X-Comment: Create multiple mailinglists with connections to both Email and news readers X-Comment: and combine the 2 with ease of use. X-Comment: Available from www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk (Demo Version) From: simson@df.lth.se (Fredrik Simonsson) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: [AMOSList] Re: Web Site to see Status: O X-Status: In article <34B2E261.2C04@snakebite.com>, David Vorous wrote: >Valued Customer wrote: >> >> INTERNATIONAL PRISON MINISTRY >snip > >How could one be so assinine as to post someting like this to >alt.recovery.religion? > >The people there are trying to get away from religion. They do not need, >nor desire, your garbage. Please find somewhere else to crosspost. >-- >David J. Vorous >dave@snakebite.com >http://users.aimnet.com/~dvorous/home.html How could one be so assinine as to post someting like this to alt.religion.amiga and alt.religion.amos ? The people there are trying to get away from spam. They do not need, nor desire, your garbage. Please find somewhere else to crosspost. -- Fredrik Simonsson http://simson.net.eu.org -- Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!! mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net Subject: SUBSCRIBE Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 17:35:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 17:35:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18746 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03815 for amos-out; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:12:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03812 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09739 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 173 invoked from network); 13 Jan 1998 18:12:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.145) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 13 Jan 1998 18:12:18 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:00:33 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001401bd1b24$c94d4960$6f11fed0@acer200> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: CBATNAM doings. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA03813 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 07-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Adam jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "CBATNAM doings." until I was forced to knock them out: »-> For Keith and Mush (who's been away, when's he going to be back anyhow?): Im back now! It would be loads easier just to email them to me. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 19:01:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 19:01:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19183 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04825 for amos-out; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04822 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00145 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:40:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29163 invoked from network); 13 Jan 1998 18:40:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.145) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 13 Jan 1998 18:40:51 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:43:04 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1132.304T2881T10424830@ptialaska.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: HTTP digest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA04823 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 01-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Troy jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "HTTP digest" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Hello all, »-> Just a note to let you know that awhile ago I wrote an ARexx script »-> for my Thor system that will allow you to copy all the messages in »-> a Thor Conference to HTML format. »-> I am going to do just that for the AMOS-L and upload it to Aminet »-> (I hope). If not just email me and I will send it off to you. »-> There are two types of HTML processes for this. One is that I copy »-> each message to it's own HTML page with an Index (of course) and »-> the other is for one huge HTML page with links within the document »-> to all the messages (sort of a digest). »-> I haven't found a browser that supports the links within the document »-> for the Amiga yet, so I have to use IE4.0 on my PeeCee :( »-> Tell me what you think of this Idea. I know that all the messages »-> will be uploaded (sooner or later) to Aminet (and I joined the list late »-> so there is only about 240 messages there) but I hated trying to go »-> through a hugh text file line by line (sucks)....this is *MUCH* better Hmm, this is a bad idea if it wont support Amiga browsers. One of the output functions of my mailinglist manager, is to create either single mails, or a "digest" which can be made in either plain text, or HTML format. It was designed for very high traffic lists. Ive added the HTML version to the PD library and will look at it tonight on Ibrowse, then releqase a version with my program to compare the difference. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 18:21:35 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 18:21:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14598 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04916 for amos-out; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04913 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08650 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:43:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30096 invoked from network); 13 Jan 1998 18:43:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.145) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 13 Jan 1998 18:43:36 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:45:50 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted+Other.. QWAK 2 productions starts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA04914 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 01-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jamie jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "GOOD Programmer Wanted+Other.. QWAK 2 productions starts" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> I'm looking for a good programmer (GOOD), who will get 10% (possibly 20%) of »-> the profit made from the game (expected outcome (from Team17's accountants) is »-> in excess off 500 pounds ($1000). The programmer of the game would require more than 10% of te overall monies acquired from Team 17, after all, they would be doing all the hard stuff while you sit back, if you excuse the pun. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 18:28:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 18:28:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10808 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05179 for amos-out; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05176 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29533 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:55:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1185 invoked from network); 13 Jan 1998 18:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.145) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 13 Jan 1998 18:56:26 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:56:16 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Funny guns in AMOS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA05177 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 30-Dec-97, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jamie jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Funny guns in AMOS?" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> You know those gun things, the ones you point at the screen and shoot like »-> crazy in the hope that you hit something? »-> Like in Virtua Cop, does AMOS support them, or are they just a no-no. They should be able to be used, as they plug straight in the joystick port and poke info into memory as to its whereabouts. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 17:25:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 17:25:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17550 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04560 for amos-out; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04557 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from shylock.mcs.co.uk (mcsgate.mcs.co.uk [193.32.81.102]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA23639 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:33:09 -0500 (EST) Received: tid SAA25895; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:56:22 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:33 GMT From: "SIMONC%MARS.decnet"@mcs.co.uk (Simon Champion - simonc@mcs.co.uk) Message-Id: <009C03DA2CC00D40.FD88@mcs.co.uk> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: New Amos progs to d/l. X-VMS-To: MCSDEV::SMTP%"amos-list@access.digex.net" Status: O X-Status: Hello Amos listers. This is to let you know that in my latest upload to Aminet, I've included the Amos Pro source code for it. The program is called Mouse Maze, and it's a sort of artificial-inteligence experiment. It tries to find it's way around a maze. I've uploaded to Aminet, but there seems to be a problem on Aminet at the moment, so you're probably better off visiting my homepage at http://village.vossnet.co.uk/c/champion/ - all my programs can be downloaded from there as well. Also (relatively) new is HAL9001, another AI program, but much more interesting. It tries to build coherent and gramatically correct sentences from a dictionary of words input by the user. If you want to get hold of the Amos source code for any of the other programs I've written (or am writing), feel free to ask. (I will probably want something for it tho...!). MouseMaze source is absolutely free. Enjoy. Best regards to you all. Simon "Spudley" Champion. PS: Mush - if you want to take any of these progs for your Amos archive, feel free to d/l them from my homepage (or Aminet). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Never horse a look mouth in the gift." From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 22:24:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 13 22:24:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04967 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA22272 for amos-out; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22269 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ptialaska.net (husky.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07479 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from dialups-123.kodiak.ptialaska.net (tbouchar@dialups-123.kodiak.ptialaska.net [198.70.197.123]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14954; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:48:19 -0900 (AKST) Date: 13 Jan 98 16:45:50 -0900 From: "Troy E Bouchard" Subject: Re: HTTP digest To: Mush In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1162.317T2532T10054601@ptialaska.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: The Bouchard's Reply-To: "Troy E. Bouchard" X-URL: http://www.ptialaska.net/~tbouchar Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: >Hmm, this is a bad idea if it wont support Amiga browsers. One of the >output functions of my mailinglist manager, is to create either single >mails, or a "digest" which can be made in either plain text, or HTML >format. It was designed for very high traffic lists. >Ive added the HTML version to the PD library and will look at it tonight on >Ibrowse, then releqase a version with my program to compare the difference. I've since fixed the problem with the Amiga Browesers. Yes ... It was MY FAULT... I read the HTML book wrong. Anyway - I won't upload and double the work if you are going to publish in HTML. I only saw text files and when downloaded and opened it was very agravating to plow through all those headers and such to finaly get to the meat of the message. HTMLDigest takes all that out and you just see who it is from the date, and subject. If you want to read it - click on the link. et volia! no more plowing through tonnes of text. Troy E. Bouchard, Cowlitz *** UNCONQUERED *** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 14 22:23:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 14 22:23:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27485 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA00124 for amos-out; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00121 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:54:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA23014 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:54:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2021596; 15 Jan 98 1:39 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Amos List Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:01:02 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id UAA00122 Status: O X-Status: On Tuesday 13-Jan-98 at 08:45:50, a nutter named Mush had wet pants when they typed about `Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted+Other.. QWAK 2 productions starts'. >The programmer of the game would require more than 10% of te overall monies >acquired from Team 17, after all, they would be doing all the hard stuff while >you sit back, if you excuse the pun. >Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett I agree with what you say Mush. I just didn't wanna be the first to say it m8 :) After all, would any of the list guys work on a project (coding it all) for a measly 10%??? I realise that there is other guys to pay (Musicians/Gfx/Admin etc), but surely 10% for a programmer is pretty low? Maybe if this Team 17 (I thought they had left our Amiga!) project will be a BIG payer though??? Andy Gee! -- +----/¯¯¯¯|--/¯¯¯¯|--/¯¯¯¯|--/¯¯¯¯|-::::::.--------------------------+ ¦ / /¯| | / /¯| | / /¯¯¯ / /¯| | :: ::--Andy-Gibson-(SKiDZ/A51)-¦ ¦ / /¯¯¯ |/ /¯¯¯_|/ /¯¯¯¯|/ /¯¯¯ | :::. :: ¦ ¦ / /¯¯¯| | /¯¯\ \/ /¯¯¯¯¯/ /¯¯¯| | :: ::-andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk-¦ +/_/----|_|/----\/_/¯¯¯¯¯¯|/----|_|-.::: ::--------------------------+ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ - - -- --- --- ----> sUPP0RTING aMIGA! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 14 20:34:17 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 14 20:34:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14396 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:34:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25361 for amos-out; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25358 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:53:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04501 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port73.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.55]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA31057 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:53:05 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:50:20 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted+Other.. QWAK 2 productions starts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id RAA25359 Status: O X-Status: Pity your incorrect Mush... The programmer now receives 25%, AND I'm doing most of the work, they simply make the engine, I'm doing the gfx, level design, music, sound, distribution, plot, licenses, animations (3d ones) and I'm also handling one or two other things. NOW who'd be sitting back doing almost nothing? Keep in mind there are 80 levels, 8 different types of landscapes, 16 different backgrounds, in excess of 500 frames of animation in the characters alone, not to forget the 3d animated segments, which will be massive in themselves, I'm also handling remapping, the A1200 version and disk-mashing. Anybody else WANT TO TRY PICK ME OFF? Jamie Bentley +---------------------------------------------------------+ | *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS *** --- Jamie Bentley | +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Pro-Animation/Gfx/ANY SYSTEM | | 3D modeling and anything required... | +---------------------------------------------------------+ Sniper Productions is copyright *1992*, any use of this name without prior consent from the owner will be prosecuted. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 14 19:48:47 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 14 19:48:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13712 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25400 for amos-out; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:55:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25397 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:55:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22433 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port73.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.55]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA31106 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:55:02 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:52:16 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <34BA8C43.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted+Other.. QWAK 2 productions starts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id RAA25398 Status: O X-Status: Okay Alastair, you don't get jack. Sorry, put that the wrong way :) You still have to program NUKES, which I sent you the gfx, the music, and a heap of other tidbits, plus a PILE of text files with them, and a description of everything, and you haven't even got CLOSE to starting that, oh yeah, I want AT LEAST 30fps scrolling on NUKES. JB +---------------------------------------------------------+ | *** SNIPER PRODUCTIONS *** --- Jamie Bentley | +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Pro-Animation/Gfx/ANY SYSTEM | | 3D modeling and anything required... | +---------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:22:55 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:22:55 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29432 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:22:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00505 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00502 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16409 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25384 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:55:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:55:26 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: Mush To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:48:21 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: AMOS on the WEB.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA00503 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 15-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jens jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "AMOS on the WEB.." until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Hello.. »-> As I'm rewriting my entire set of homepages to frames, I'm also shuffeling »-> the links section around. So does anyone have some AMOS related sites that »-> they'd like me to add to the list.. If you've got a banner you'd like to »-> show as a link to your page then let me know the URL too... I went to your AMOS extension pages, and had a look around. Its a good idea to have placed there, but its Wayyyyyy to bloated. Plus, the frames version doesnt display on the Amiga Ibrowse (at least not on my regged version) and I had to type in the full URL manually to get on the pages. Also, the CRAFT download link on one of them goes to stars, rather than CRAFT. Seeing as you will be changing the pages, wouldnt it be good to reduce the way you are displying the stuff on the screen? Why take a full browser screen to display a bit of info, where you could just as easily place another table inside there, and use all of the screen, rather than just the left side. Just some comments, no offense meant. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 20:52:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 20:52:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07356 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00525 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00522 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28452 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25419 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:55:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:55:30 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:49:15 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0000D8D3.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: AMOS Pro & Arexx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA00523 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 16-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "AMOS Pro & Arexx" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> »-> Does anyone on the list have any programs that use AREXX or any kind »-> of a tutorial? I am having a bit of trouble getting started. Thanks »-> inadvance. I have an IRC bot here written with the AMOS Arexx commands if you want it to look at. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 21:48:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 21:48:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02964 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00510 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00507 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA14582 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25452 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:55:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:55:33 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com, amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:50:35 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0000D829.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Re[2]: GUI Windows - a problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA00508 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 15-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re[2]: GUI Windows - a problem" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> »-> Thanks Mush, this works a treat with my second window but any GUI »-> requesters I call up use the workbench font etc. Any ideas? »-> As far as I know, all ASL requesters use the Workbench font by nature, unless Pietro has some way to get around the problem? Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:11:46 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:11:46 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09833 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:11:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00515 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00512 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00464 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25465 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:55:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:55:35 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:52:30 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted+Other.. QWAK 2 productions starts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA00513 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 15-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jamie jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted+Other.. QWAK 2 productions starts" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Okay Alastair, you don't get jack. »-> Sorry, put that the wrong way :) You still have to program NUKES, which I »-> sent you the gfx, the music, and a heap of other tidbits, plus a PILE of text »-> files with them, and a description of everything, and you haven't even got »-> CLOSE to starting that, oh yeah, I want AT LEAST 30fps scrolling on NUKES. Hmmm, very demanding arent you! 30FPS isnt exactly the most easy of tasks to do in AMOS, so give the guy a break, after all, you are relying on him. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:44:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:44:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09771 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00520 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00517 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28621 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25475 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:55:38 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:56:42 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted+Other.. QWAK 2 productions starts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA00518 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 15-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jamie jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted+Other.. QWAK 2 productions starts" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Pity your incorrect Mush... Oh yeah, how so? »-> The programmer now receives 25%, AND I'm doing most of the work, they simply »-> make the engine, I'm doing the gfx, level design, music, sound, distribution, »-> plot, licenses, animations (3d ones) and I'm also handling one or two other »-> things. Well, the mail you sent to the list said 10%, or do you wish to still contest this? I didnt mean to say you were doing nothing (or do you not know the true meaning of the word Pun?). »-> NOW who'd be sitting back doing almost nothing? Keep in mind there are 80 »-> levels, 8 different types of landscapes, 16 different backgrounds, in excess »-> of 500 frames of animation in the characters alone, not to forget the 3d »-> animated segments, which will be massive in themselves, I'm also handling »-> remapping, the A1200 version and disk-mashing. Let me get this straight, you have to do this stuff all on your own? If you have secured a game contract from Team 17, you should be able to get any musician or GFX artist on the case for free of charge, it goes without saying as they will offer you any services to finish the game they so desire want. Also, was it my imagination, or had Team 17 finished with the Amiga some time back? »-> Anybody else WANT TO TRY PICK ME OFF? Who's picking you off? Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:54:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:54:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01020 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00540 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00537 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA04544 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25480 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:55:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:55:41 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: Mush To: "Troy E. Bouchard" CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:10:46 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1162.317T2532T10054601@ptialaska.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: HTTP digest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA00538 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 14-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Troy jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: HTTP digest" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> I've since fixed the problem with the Amiga Browesers. Yes ... It was »-> MY FAULT... I read the HTML book wrong. Anyway - I won't upload and »-> double the work if you are going to publish in HTML. I only saw text »-> files and when downloaded and opened it was very agravating to plow »-> through all those headers and such to finaly get to the meat of the »-> message. HTMLDigest takes all that out and you just see who it is »-> from the date, and subject. If you want to read it - click on the »-> link. et volia! no more plowing through tonnes of text. Feel free to upload the HTML archives, but all I suggest is you add the month AND year in the archive, so in years to come, people wont get mixed up. Oh yeah, best place them all in a folder with the Month and year too, as there is nothing worse than unpacking an archive into a root drawer, only to discover it places them all in no folder of its own, hehehe. Just gonna check your archive version... Ok, back. Dear oh dear, its extremely basic. Why are you using Thor, of all things, to make the files? Why not just use AMOS instead of an AREXX script. First thing I did, was load in the massive HTML file, which still has a lot of HTML errors in it I may add, and decided that the file was way too big to be using as a digest file anyhow, especilally people to low-spec machines (the browser window buffer size would be too great). It did have some nice looks on it though, which improved the index.html file layout, which serves the user a lott better. My program will format itself completely different, provide more info on-screen, as well as some cute GFX, index files, and other bits and pieces to make it look more presentable. I would like to try and put together the one for January if thats OK, as I have a copy of all the files anyhow for when I post them all to the newsgroup. If January's test is successfull, I shall convert all the files from the last 5 years to the HTML format and upload them. Anyone has any comments or suggestions, feel free to contact me. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:26:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:26:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02076 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00530 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00527 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17302 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25489 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:55:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:55:43 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:14:50 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA00528 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 14-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Andy jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: GOOD Programmer Wanted" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> After all, would any of the list guys work on a project (coding it »-> all) for a measly 10%??? No way, like I said earlier, at least 20% of whats left after paying everyone else, as the programmer does the hardest part of the program (and has to put up with all the nagging!!) »-> I realise that there is other guys to pay (Musicians/Gfx/Admin etc), »-> but surely 10% for a programmer is pretty low? If the game is being produced by Team 17 and he has signed his contract, then Team17 should be offering him this help for free. I know sadeness help Paul Burkey out a bit with Foundation, so I guess they must have to help to get their stuff on the shelves. »-> Maybe if this Team 17 (I thought they had left our Amiga!) project »-> will be a BIG payer though??? Thats what I had heard (and thought I read). Must be a damn good Amiga game (a major milestone for AMOS too) if its going to bring them back!! Do tell us more, Jamie! Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:11:33 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:11:33 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05218 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:11:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00535 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00532 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA22688 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25514 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:55:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:55:49 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:26:49 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001001bd1b23$7896dc80$6f11fed0@acer200> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: File Storage Areas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA00533 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 07-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Adam jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: File Storage Areas" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> > AMINET is nothing but a nightmare anymore, it's always down, or so slow »-> > it makes connecting very hard, any help would be apreciated. Mush's site »-> > is only on at certain hours of the day, so it's out of the question also. »-> Yea, you could say that about Aminet (of course some of the UK mirrors »-> aren't _TOO_ bad compared to wustl). As for Mush's FTP, I think he's »-> working on getting a dedicated (extra) phone line for it, so as to keep it »-> up around the clock 24-7 (you'll have to talk to him about the specifics). Yeah, im offering true FTP login accounts for free, and at the moment, im not charging (and the space is unlimited). In about a months time, im buying yet another house phoneline, so will be online almost 24 hours a day. I will be also officially opening my WWW server very soon too, and may begin offering free web pages to the lucky few. If your interested in an account, let me know. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:08:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:08:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21627 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:08:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00554 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00551 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:56:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25262 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25539 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:55:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:55:54 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:34:14 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <34A88A75.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Memory Banks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA00552 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 30-Dec-97, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Alastair jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Memory Banks" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Also, is there NO way of deciding on the Set Buffer variable size »-> after the first line? »-> Basically I'd only like to decide it after examining the tool types of »-> the program. I was trying to combat this problem with my large Mailinglist program, so a popular list could set it for say, 10,000 entries, or just 100, depending on its popularity. Every attempt ive made at using any kind of command line, or tooltype value with SET BUFFER (even on the very first line) doesnt work, as it will only seem to accept a true numeric value. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:38:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 22:38:39 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07110 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00619 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00616 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA25779 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25568 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:55:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:55:57 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:42:12 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Inituition.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id TAA00617 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 27-Dec-97, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jens jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: Inituition.." until I was forced to knock them out: »-> On 27-Dec-97, geosync@ozemail.com.au smashed the keyboard with: »-> >Hi Jens, »-> >You say you can open an AGA screen with AMOS, GUI and OSDevKit? »-> YES, but the key is the OSDevKit, the GUI just handles my requesters as »-> they are very difficult to write in the OSDevKit.. The test version of the GUI extension (which is due for public release not too long from now) fully handles AGA and any graphics card screenmodes selectable in an ASL screenmode requester. It blows away the OS Devkit, and all the others!! »-> If you'd like something simpler to open AGA screens then drop by the »-> AmiNET and look in the 'dev/amos' there's an extension called »-> 'intuition' it's also capable of opening AGA screens and uses full »-> intuition. Unfortunaly the docs are not even half-finnished, but some »-> good examples comes along and makes it a little easier to use. The only »-> problem with THAT extension is that it's not capable of setting colours »-> in AGA notification, it only uses the old fassion 4bit setting, while »-> the OSDevKit can set the colours in 32bit (AGA standard)... The GUI extension allows you to change the colours of any screenmode, just as easily, if not easier, than regular AMOS screens. Keep your eyes peeled for the new public release!! »-> I've also heard that the next version of GUI is capable of opening AGA »-> screens but I've not seen it yet... Its true. I can send a compiled demo if you want. I have one here which demonstrates the use of bobs on an intuition screen (about 650/sec on a 32 colour Superhires-Interlaced screen). Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 21:23:47 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 21:23:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25528 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00549 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00546 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:56:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10355 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25837 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 23:57:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 23:57:00 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:24:03 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: 256 colours MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA00547 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 15-Dec-97, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jens jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "256 colours" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Hello.. »-> Anyone knows a way to get a 256 colour IFF (AGA system) loaded in AMOS. »-> I don't need to display it, just to get the colour values of the various »-> points.. »-> Will the GUI extension supports IFF loading or DataTypes in the future ?? I know it will support IFF loading, as I sent a tonne of info about it to Pietro. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 12:44:40 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 12:44:40 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01584 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA10368 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10365 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco14-115.cas.golden.net [207.216.78.115]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26540 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp18-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.67]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA24278 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:27:25 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:31:00 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: GOOD Programmer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 14-Jan-98, Jamie Bentley wrote: > The programmer now receives 25%, AND I'm doing most of the work, they simply >make the engine, I'm doing the gfx, level design, music, sound, distribution, >plot, licenses, animations (3d ones) and I'm also handling one or two other >things. So, aside from using Team 17's name, are they doing anything? And, more importantly, aside from your bragging, is there any reason for this message? >Keep in mind there are 80 >remapping, the A1200 version and disk-mashing. Have fun. > Anybody else WANT TO TRY PICK ME OFF? Hmm, a bit of attitude perhaps? Sounds like sexual frustration to me. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 05:40:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 05:40:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00313 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:40:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA02940 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:10:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02937 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefox.modusmedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA16125 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:10:49 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from [192.168.133.3] by firefox.modusmedia.com via smtpd (for pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 09:10:48 UT Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA49 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:12:48 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 2) id 0000D829; Thu, 15 Jan 98 02:10:04 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:51:39 -0700 Message-ID: <0000D829.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re[2]: GUI Windows - a problem To: amos-list@access.digex.net, Mush Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Thanks Mush, this works a treat with my second window but any GUI requesters I call up use the workbench font etc. Any ideas? Declan. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: GUI Windows - a problem Author: Mush at Internet Date: 12/01/98 21:36 Try running the GUI SENSITIVE OFF command before opening any windows, this should set it to the default topaz fonts. If you have it on, the system tries to adjust itself to your WB enviroment, and it doesnt always work too well, so I usually leave it turned off. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 13:55:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 13:55:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24538 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13121 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13114 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from c2gate.tcom.co.uk (c2gate.tcom.co.uk [194.6.96.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA13876 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from Connect2 Message Router by c2gate.tcom.co.uk via Connect2-SMTP 4.30A; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:43:13 +0000 Message-ID: <5305DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:17:00 +0000 From: "Wayne O'Donnell" Sender: "Wayne O'Donnell" Organization: * To: amos-list@access.digex.net (AMOS-LIS@SMTP {amos-list@access.digex.net}), declan_gorman@modusmedia.com (DECLAN$G@SMTP {Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.c om}) Subject: RE: AMOSPro V2.0 Monitor Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway Status: O X-Status: > Has anyone else noticed changes in the V2.0 monitor. I recall using > it in V1.0 and when it encountered a string or variable it always > displayed the string/variable values at the bottom of the screen. > This does not happen with V2.0. Am I missing something? I am not 100% sure about this as I usually have trouble with it but I think after you have done INIT, click on the variable you want to watch in the top window and it will be displayed in the bottom window and updated when it changes. (or at least thats the theory - whenever I try it I usually get an error along the lines of 'Unable to resolve variable.) Wayne. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 15:03:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 15:03:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28565 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:03:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14983 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:28:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14980 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08431 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24394 invoked by uid 1514); 15 Jan 1998 17:29:06 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:29:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Matt X-Sender: mattw@orca To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: AMOSPro V2.0 Monitor In-Reply-To: <0000D8D6.eval@modusmedia.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote: > > Has anyone else noticed changes in the V2.0 monitor. I recall using > it in V1.0 and when it encountered a string or variable it always > displayed the string/variable values at the bottom of the screen. > This does not happen with V2.0. Am I missing something? The monitor V1.0 was full of bugs - it was rewritten for V2.0. As far as I remember if you want it to display a value you click on the VAL button then on the expression itself in the code. Some things it can't/won't evaluate. I never use the monitor so I'm afraid I'm not much more help to you. ### ### ######## ########### ########### #### #### ### ### ### ### ##!## ##!## #!# #!# #!# #!# !#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@! !@! !@! matt@netsoc.ucd.ie !!! ! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! x x :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: \__/ ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: :: :: :: :: : : From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 15:53:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 15:53:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10159 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20150 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20147 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22618 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5841 invoked from network); 15 Jan 1998 18:43:11 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 18:43:11 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.10]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAC47028 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:43:08 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:29:27 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: AMOS on the WEB.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello.. As I'm rewriting my entire set of homepages to frames, I'm also shuffeling the links section around. So does anyone have some AMOS related sites that they'd like me to add to the list.. If you've got a banner you'd like to show as a link to your page then let me know the URL too... NB: I'm changing the URL to the amos-extension pages, so if anyone is linking direct to those they have to search down the new URL.. (I can't tell you yet, as I don't know how I'm putting them down..) -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ Nyvej 8, DK-4450 Jyderup, Denmark /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ top_cat@post8.tele.dk -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CChheecckk yyoouurr dduupplleexx sswwiittcchh.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 09:35:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 09:35:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09031 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:35:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA03657 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03654 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefox.modusmedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA03843 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:01:45 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from [192.168.133.3] by firefox.modusmedia.com via smtpd (for pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 13:01:44 UT Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA67 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:03:51 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 2) id 0000D8D3; Thu, 15 Jan 98 05:59:55 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:45:06 -0700 Message-ID: <0000D8D3.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: AMOS Pro & Arexx To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Does anyone on the list have any programs that use AREXX or any kind of a tutorial? I am having a bit of trouble getting started. Thanks inadvance. Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 10:31:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 10:31:36 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07919 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA03653 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03649 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefox.modusmedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10206 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:01:44 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from [192.168.133.3] by firefox.modusmedia.com via smtpd (for pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) with SMTP; 15 Jan 1998 13:01:44 UT Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA143 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:03:52 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 2) id 0000D8D6; Thu, 15 Jan 98 05:59:57 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:48:04 -0700 Message-ID: <0000D8D6.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: AMOSPro V2.0 Monitor To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Has anyone else noticed changes in the V2.0 monitor. I recall using it in V1.0 and when it encountered a string or variable it always displayed the string/variable values at the bottom of the screen. This does not happen with V2.0. Am I missing something? Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 17:27:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 15 17:27:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04572 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22810 for amos-out; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:19:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22803 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19539 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.68) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:17:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: QWAK 2 productions starts Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:27:11 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > The programmer now receives 25%... Now, that's more like it!! > there are 80 levels, 8 different types of landscapes, 16 different > backgrounds, in excess of 500 frames of animation in the characters > alone, not to forget the 3d animated segments, which will be > massive in themselves... Sounds like a LOT of work. Obviously, this is a HUGE project for one or two people to undertake. Other than offering their previous support-files (gfx, music, etc) and the QWAK name, are Team17 involved at all in this project? Will they be publishing it?? Also, you mentioned something about "in excess of $1000 according to Team17's accountants." That was for the programmer being paid 10%, so I assume the estimate is now that the programmer will be receiving $2,500, correct? Hmmm... an extra $2,500 would almost tempt me to take a shot at this, if I wasn't in the process of building my own Budgetware (Amiga/PC) business... > Anybody else WANT TO TRY PICK ME OFF? That's not very productive... Some people were talking about the first AMOS-list game being "too small and too simple", so this might be the perfect opportunity for a second AMOS-list game. You have Team 17's name, HUGE gfx/animation requirements, an estimated $10,000 profits from the final sales... if the idea of combining AMOS with a commercial game backed by Team17 isn't enough to motivate you guys, maybe a chunk of that cash will be... Take care, GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA&IBM):15% complete(...3 days) -->First screen-shots are on my GAMES page<-- "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 40% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 05:21:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 05:21:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA03636 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04212 for amos-out; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04209 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (F23.hotmail.com [207.82.250.34]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA03674 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17664 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jan 1998 09:24:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19980116092432.17663.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 147.162.127.62 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:24:31 PST X-Originating-IP: [147.162.127.62] From: "Marco Vettorello" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Hallo to every Amos user Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:24:31 PST Status: O X-Status: I'm a new entry so I've sent this mail to indroduce me to every user. I've no question at moment but sure there will be some in future. Sorry for my english, it isn't my native language. So, GOODMORNIG TO YOU ALL :) Marcoegon@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 05:55:45 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 05:55:45 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12378 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04184 for amos-out; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:06:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04181 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefox.modusmedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA13416 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:06:45 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from [192.168.133.3] by firefox.modusmedia.com via smtpd (for pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) with SMTP; 16 Jan 1998 09:06:45 UT Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA104 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:09:05 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 2) id 0000DC8D; Fri, 16 Jan 98 02:04:00 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:50:21 -0700 Message-ID: <0000DC8D.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re[2]: AMOS Pro & Arexx To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id EAA04182 Status: RO X-Status: Thanks Mush. If I can learn anything at all from it, that would be great. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: AMOS Pro & Arexx Author: Mush at Internet Date: 15/01/98 16:49 It was on the night of 16-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "AMOS Pro & Arexx" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> »-> Does anyone on the list have any programs that use AREXX or any kind »-> of a tutorial? I am having a bit of trouble getting started. Thanks »-> inadvance. I have an IRC bot here written with the AMOS Arexx commands if you want it to look at. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 21:17:22 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 21:17:22 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01721 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08478 for amos-out; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08473 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14557 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@ng8p42.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.236]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17198 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:41:24 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1978 21:56:44 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: Qwak 2 - THE REAL STORY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id TAA08474 Status: O X-Status: Okay, 1) Team 17 have almost nothing to do with the project, all they have to do with it is they let me use the name Qwak (and all things related to it). 2) Team 17 will not distribute it. 3) The programmer receives 25% of the total amount sold. 4) Any confusion about people who want to try out for the job will have to realise the following: This game will take up *around* 5 meg, when NOT compressed. The finished product must NOT look like an AMOS production (do anything possible to hide this fact). There are three different title tunes, loaded randomly when the game starts. Since I'm creating the enormous amount of levels (well, me and a small team, god forbid), the level editor should be fairly easy to get to grips with. Because there is no scrolling, there should be no problems with speed. The title tunes are in MED, but the in-game music is in protracker 3 channels, which you can freely convert into ABK if you wish (provided when a sound is played it KEEPS going, instead of stopping). Aproxomatly 20 colours are reserved for the sprites/bobs (or about 18 I think), and the last lot are for the back ground. Some Backgrounds WILL HAVE TO BE animated (simply stuff, like clouds slowly drifting across the screen). The entire palette will have to change when the Ducks use their egglaunchers, when the egg hits, the screen will brighten by around 50%, giving it the impression it was a powerful blast. None of the files can be larger than 1.2 meg, because it won't compress onto a disk very well. Over the forground (the GROUND) sprites, there will be background sprites, which don't affect anything. (Adds more to the look of the game). Well, their the things that just it CAN'T be without. Oh, and at LEAST a 25fps frame rate :) I'll think of little touches as I continue making the graphics. Please note, that, all of the title tunes have singing, so they won't be smaller than 300k, and I'll try keep them under 600. Any questions? Alastair: I'll take up your offer, you can program Qwak. ANYBODY want to program NUKES? Its like Scorched tanks, onyl with better graphics, better sound, better music, better playability, more new ideas, faster, up to 16 tanks at once controlled by only 4 players and will need muliple layers of background. This will be a PD production. Jamie Bentley Owner of Sniper Productions (copyright 1992). From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 10:10:48 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 10:10:47 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10431 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06499 for amos-out; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:21:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06496 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA24770 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29902 invoked from network); 16 Jan 1998 13:22:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.173) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 16 Jan 1998 13:22:06 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:24:13 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: AMOS on the WEB.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id IAA06497 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 16-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jens jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: AMOS on the WEB.." until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Frames runs nicely on the newest version (1.16) of Ibrowse.. »-> I'll be checking the URL's as soon as I can.. Oh yes, frames do work, just your text file doesnt appear in the frame, just the "permanantly under construction" bit, and nothing else whatsoever, even after loading the 58K file. I think you missed a tag off the table, which is preventing it from being shown. »-> I plan to make a fast overview with just the names, and then a page for »-> each extension with the info on.. Good idea =) Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 19:21:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 19:21:51 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23879 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA04816 for amos-out; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04811 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20933 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6521 invoked from network); 16 Jan 1998 22:10:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.155) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 16 Jan 1998 22:10:11 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:12:18 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00016257.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: AMOS Central MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id RAA04812 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 17-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "AMOS Central" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> »-> Is there anywhere on the net that would be considered the centre of »-> all that is AMOS? Hmm, I wouldnt say for certain, but I do get a fair few visitors to my pages a day. I would like to add other AMOS-related features to it, to give the user a more enjoyable stay, but dont always have the time. Anyone have an interesting idea they want to try out? Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 18:21:37 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 18:21:37 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28479 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03012 for amos-out; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03009 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA03001 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.57) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:33:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: AMOS Central Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:44:26 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Is there anywhere on the net that would be considered the centre of > all that is AMOS? You mean this isn't it?! I think you could easily consider this AMOS-list to be the center of all that is AMOS... First, we have our debates, discussions and Q&A-sessions... most having something to do with AMOS, of course. Second, this is where the first worldwide, totally AMOS-oriented, multi-game-engine, action-packed, multi-programmer driven AMOS game was developed. Third, by looking at the signatures of the posted messages, you can find loads of AMOS-oriented websites (or at least pages). By doing this, I discovered Mush's, Giark's, Murray's, Keith's, Ben's (Wyatt), Adam's and many other fantastic websites all of which have (or at least had) some AMOS-oriented pages/files, etc. Yes, I think this must be the center of all that is AMOS... Take care, GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA&IBM):15% complete(...3 days) -->First screen-shots are on my GAMES page<-- "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 40% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 15:24:12 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 15:24:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23934 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA10622 for amos-out; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10619 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:54:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefox.modusmedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20147 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:53:58 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from [192.168.133.3] by firefox.modusmedia.com via smtpd (for pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) with SMTP; 16 Jan 1998 15:53:54 UT Received: from smtp1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.82]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA67 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:56:20 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp1.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 2) id 00016257; Fri, 16 Jan 98 08:49:48 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:40:16 -0700 Message-ID: <00016257.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: AMOS Central To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Is there anywhere on the net that would be considered the centre of all that is AMOS? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 23:11:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 16 23:11:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19299 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:11:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA08907 for amos-out; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA08904 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:57:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23104 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01659; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:57:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:57:46 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: Qwak 2 - THE REAL STORY To: Jamie Bentley cc: AMOS HELP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 17 Jul 1978, Jamie Bentley wrote: > Okay, >[SNIP] > > Any questions? Will it be CPC (Cross Pond Compatible)? > Alastair: I'll take up your offer, you can program Qwak. > > ANYBODY want to program NUKES? Its like Scorched tanks, onyl with better graphics, better sound, better music, better playability, more new ideas, faster, up to 16 tanks at once controlled by only 4 players and will need muliple layers of background. This will be a PD production. > > Jamie Bentley > Owner of Sniper Productions (copyright 1992). > Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 01:40:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 01:40:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15899 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 01:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA09183 for amos-out; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09180 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA25012 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:08:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27840 invoked by alias); 17 Jan 1998 05:08:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 27826 invoked from network); 17 Jan 1998 05:08:24 -0000 Received: from 1cust173.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.173) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 1998 05:08:24 -0000 Message-ID: <004f01bd2305$f35cdd40$ad10fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Jens Vang Petersen" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: AMOS on the WEB.. Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:08:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > As I'm rewriting my entire set of homepages to frames, I'm also shuffling > the links section around. So does anyone have some AMOS related sites > that they'd like me to add to the list.. If you've got a banner you'd > like to show as a link to your page then let me know the URL too... Well, I haven't made the announcement yet (had planned to wait a few more days), but I guess now's the best time to tell it: I'm (or _have been_) redoing my webpages as well (taking time from programming over this past weekend to do them), as they haven't been updated since last August (eek!) and there's some pages I never finished and sections never added (ah!). You can go ahead and ADD my website to your listing of links (the URL is in my sig below). Go ahead and add the banner as well if you want (mail me privately for either a URL, the banner, or both). Thanks again. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 01:25:41 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 01:25:41 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA27838 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 01:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA09200 for amos-out; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09197 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA06673 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29036 invoked by alias); 17 Jan 1998 05:22:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 29021 invoked from network); 17 Jan 1998 05:22:04 -0000 Received: from 1cust173.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.173) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 1998 05:22:04 -0000 Message-ID: <005a01bd2307$dc1d68a0$ad10fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Good programmer, etc.. Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:22:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > Pity your incorrect Mush... hehe, shouldn't that read "incorrectness"? > The programmer now receives 25%, AND I'm doing most of the work, they > simply make the engine, I'm doing the gfx, level design, music, sound, > distribution, plot, licenses, animations and [other things].. So _NOW_, all the sudden, YOUR doing everything?? Hmm.. just wondering. The pay cut increase to 25% is an inticing incentive, but what's left to do in the game (since you have taken over what _appears_ to be the rest of it?) The game sounds like it'll be cool, btw, and I hope it does good. As Garfield asked, does Team17 have any involement in this project (or any other future projects you have planned, or both)? I also take it that the $10,000 sales projection is just a planning figure. > Anybody else WANT TO TRY PICK ME OFF? I think _SOMEBODY_ needs to (better before I do). Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 02:00:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 02:00:09 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18162 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:00:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA09218 for amos-out; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09215 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:40:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA21097 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 875 invoked by alias); 17 Jan 1998 05:40:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 859 invoked from network); 17 Jan 1998 05:40:37 -0000 Received: from 1cust173.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.173) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 1998 05:40:37 -0000 Message-ID: <005f01bd230a$73e9f700$ad10fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Marco Vettorello" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: Hallo to every Amos user Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:40:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > I'm a new entry so I've sent this mail to indroduce me to every user. > I've no question at moment but sure there will be some in future. Well, if you use AMOS for _any_ length of time, (and try your hand at tackling any big projects), your BOUND to have some problems eventually. :) > Sorry for my english, it isn't my native language. No problem. Some of those here on the List can identify with you. ;) Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 02:21:45 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 02:21:45 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09960 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA09231 for amos-out; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09228 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:50:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA08694 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2193 invoked by alias); 17 Jan 1998 05:50:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2179 invoked from network); 17 Jan 1998 05:50:13 -0000 Received: from 1cust173.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.173) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 1998 05:50:13 -0000 Message-ID: <006d01bd230b$cae10980$ad10fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: AMOS Central Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:50:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > Is there anywhere on the net that would be > considered the centre of all that is AMOS? Well, there is no _OFFICIAL_ AMOS homepage, but there are a few (I'm one of them). I'd say Mush's PD pages would have to be one of the most popular (and biggest at the moment, although mine are getting close to being as big if not bigger after my updates!) I have a listing of many (if not most) GOOD AMOS homepages (most of their creators-maintainers are on the List). It's good enough to get started looking around on if you want (I'm not sure if anyone here has a complete comprehensive listing of ALL of the AMOS sites out there, but I'm sure most of the good ones would be on the List). Give me a private mailing for any specifics on it. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 03:12:21 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 03:12:21 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04518 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 03:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA09257 for amos-out; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 01:39:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09254 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 01:39:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.154]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA00226 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 01:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab1013833; 17 Jan 98 6:33 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0032c; Sat, 17 Jan 98 06:34:22 GMT Date: Sat, 17 Jan 98 06:34:22 GMT Message-Id: <9801170634.AA00327@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25b411ec.u10t12e.715d3-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <00016257.eval@modusmedia.com> (from Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com) (at Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:40:16 -0700) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: AMOS Central Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Declan_Gorman, > Is there anywhere on the net that would be considered the centre of > all that is AMOS? Errr, here ? ;-)1 _ _ _ _ _ _ | You know what security guards are like. |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | Sh-Shoot first, and still argue about |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | whether you can come in. - Max Headroom | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 09:22:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 09:22:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04429 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:22:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA10241 for amos-out; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10238 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:39:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA03959 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2228 invoked from network); 17 Jan 1998 12:39:05 -0000 Received: from af236.du.pipex.com (HELO tiefighter) (193.130.245.236) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 1998 12:39:05 -0000 Message-ID: <002a01bd2344$d53c77a0$0101c0c6@tiefighter> From: "Robert Head" To: Subject: Amos Pro Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:38:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Hi, Could anybody tell me where I can get hold of Amos Pro & the Amos Pro Compiler! Cheers Bob. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 15:21:45 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 15:21:45 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16426 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16917 for amos-out; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:16:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16914 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20069 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.62) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:14:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: $10 000... WHERE THE HELL WOULD I GET THAT FROM Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:24:28 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Err, peoples... I said $1000... Thats ONE THOUSAND... *ONE*, not > *TEN* (10 - X - IIIIIIIIII - 5+5). Haha... sorry about that. I'm the one who started that confusion. I assumed the programmer's 10% amounted to $1,000 which would have made the total estimated profits at $10,000 and increasing the programmer's cut to 25% would obviously increase that $1,000 to $2,500... > Yeah, the first qwak didn't even make that much. The first QWAK didn't even make $10,000???? I've talked with PC shareware authors who are earning over $20,000 on one product (for the first quarter). Granted this is for their best product... their poorest products average a modest $500 (for the first quarter)... Are you sure they aren't estimating 1,000 sales (as in copies sold) instead of $1,000? Take care, GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA&IBM):15% complete(...3 days) -->First screen-shots are on my GAMES page<-- "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 40% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 19:28:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 17 19:28:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14928 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 19:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18033 for amos-out; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:04:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18030 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16439 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20931 invoked by alias); 17 Jan 1998 23:04:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 20917 invoked from network); 17 Jan 1998 23:04:46 -0000 Received: from 1cust170.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.170) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 1998 23:04:46 -0000 Message-ID: <002a01bd239c$4855e120$aa10fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Garfield Benjamin" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: AMOS Central Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:04:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > You mean this isn't it?! I think you could easily consider > this AMOS-list to be the center of all that is AMOS... Ya, but what I think our friend was referring to was a _WEBSITE_ (am I right?) that was the "center" of AMOS (or an Official AMOS page). Since my last mailing on this subject, I forgot to tell him that there is a newly-created AMOS Webring (by our friend Skid a Vis), btw. > First, we have our debates, discussions and Q&A-sessions... > most having something to do with AMOS, of course. True.. I'd have to vouch for all these (especially debates, hehe, as we've had quite a few since I joined; I will refrain from naming names). > Second, this is where the first worldwide, totally > AMOS-oriented, multi-game-engine, action-packed, > multi-programmer driven AMOS game was developed. True again.. which will be out sooner or later, btw.. ;) > Third, by looking at the signatures of the posted messages, > you can find loads of AMOS-oriented websites (or at least pages). For those few observant ones on the List, hehe. > By doing this, I discovered Mush's, Giark's, Murray's, Keith's, > Ben's (Wyatt), Adam's and many other fantastic websites all of which > have (or at least had) some AMOS-oriented pages/files, etc. As I've notified the List of my sites updating, it will include many more AMOS oriented pages (as well as those that weren't added; Amiga AND AMOS). > Yes, I think this must be the center of all that is AMOS... What can I say? It _could_ be.. definitely the only MAILING list.. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 18 05:15:54 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 18 05:15:54 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12831 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 05:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20542 for amos-out; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20539 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA10102 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.53) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:17:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: CreativeConsulting... Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:27:08 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Hello Everyone. This isn't really AMOS-oriented, but... As you may know I am venturing into Budget-Software Development on the Amiga and PC. My first title will be a much enhanced version of StarStrike2000 and is already underway. I'd like to form a small "Idea Group" with other developers. Basically, so we could just throw some ideas around, and have an all round good ol' fashioned brain-storming session or (better for e-mail), take part in a "pass the pot" cycle. This "IdeaGroup" would deal with issues such as concept and design, and all the subjective aspects that must be dealt with before we can proceed to the implementation phase. Think of it as a lot of BSing that hopefully produces some interesting game-designs, expands and solidifies raw "ideas", provides new twists on old play-mechanics/genres, etc. I particularly would be interested in working with my CBATNAM team-mates in this "Idea Group" (lame name I know - Creative Consultants is better), but the offer is open to anyone... It really shouldn't be too time-consuming and if we could get five or six people involved in this, I'm sure it would be both interesting and productive. If you're interested, please reply to me directly... THANKS!!!! GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA&IBM):15% complete(...5 days) -->First screen-shots are on my GAMES page<-- "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 40% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 05:18:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 05:18:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10794 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:18:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA25903 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 03:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25900 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 03:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07269 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 03:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port31.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.131]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA23756 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:52:05 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Sat, 19 Jan 1991 15:49:18 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: Need programmer for RPG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id DAA25901 Status: O X-Status: Hello all, once again. Qwak 2 will soon be in the hands of Alastair Murrary to program, and while he's programming that, I'm buying a few copyrights on the name for a game which has yet to be disclosed :) Anyway, it will be a Monkey Island type game, with the 12 disks worth of graphics and story lining etc, but I want an editor for the game, but it can't be distributed to anybody else, only the finished compiled product (the end game). While the actual editor must remain in only the programmer and my hands, since releasing it would be a bit of pain, as it would simply erase the amount of money that I would make. It would need to be able to play protracker tunes, work in 64 EHB 320x256 (56 pixels for the playing menu), and have all those little touchesthat Monkey Island has, like when you select something, it recomends what to do (if you right click it will do it... IE: If you move the pointer over a door and click the right mouse button, it will try open it). I would also need to be able to create "ground areas" where the player can and can't walk, mulitple layers of bobs so they can walk behind objects, and a good scripting system. The Programmer will get a standard 25% of the profits made, since me and a small team are writing the plot, while I'm doing the graphics and the music. Any questions? Jamie Bentley From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 02:44:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 02:44:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26596 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 02:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA25711 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:21:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA25708 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.globalserve.net (smtp.globalserve.net [209.90.144.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA27826 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from globalserve.net (satan@dialin10.edmonton.globalserve.net [207.176.130.10]) by smtp1.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA15966 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:21:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kaotic@globalserve.net) Message-Id: <199801190621.BAA15966@smtp1.globalserve.net> X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:23:04 +0600 From: Ryan Watson Reply-To: kaotic@globalserve.net To: AMOS List Subject: Somewhat AMOS related - my web page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Can those that are interested check out my completely new web page and tell me what you think? The URL is: http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic/ I have completely changed the appearance of my page, added tables and forms to make it all nice and neat. I also trashed the stupid intro page that I had before. Well, that's all! ------------------------------------------------ - kAOTIc - of Daemonsoft ------------------------------------------------ Daemonsoft web site - Http://www.globalserve.net/~kaotic - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Completed Projects: Fleshy Work In Progress : SheepFest (75%) Fleshee 2000 (40%) Blood Is Red (25%) The Difference Engine (10%) Normal Day (0%) ------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 08:04:32 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 08:04:32 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21143 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26342 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26339 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA13136 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:33:24 -0500 (EST) Path: news2.digex.net!digex!news9.digex.net!ionews.ionet.net!zdc-e!super.zippo.com!lotsanews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.algonet.se!pepsi.tninet.se!not-for-mail From: f100430@hogia.net (Erik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: AMOS for PC? Date: 18 Jan 1998 16:31:49 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 19 Message-ID: <69tapl$5ct$1@zingo.tninet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: xxxvi.modem.hogia.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: news2.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:124659 ReSent-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:33:21 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: O X-Status: Hey guys. Don't stop reading now, but don't you think it's time for an AMOS port for PC:s? Seriously, The Amiga is a wonderfull machine and all but you must admit it's not THAT popular anymore. And the AMOS programming language is far to important to sink with the amiga (Okay, I know most of you say the amiga will rise again and sure, if it did I would be the first to start writing Amiga AMOS extensions again but until it does...) You know... When a guy with a PC want's to start programming he gets to choose between QuickBasic, which is deadly boring and almost unusable for any form of graphics programming, or Klik and Play, which is not programming at all. (You seriously don't learn programming from drag dropping your mouse for an hour.) Am I completetly wrong? Is there no interest whatsoever for a PC-Amos? Well, If I am not, do you think it would be possible to get the source from Mandarin Software (Or whoever owns it now) or do you think it would be easier to rewrite the whole thing. Or, am I possibly to late? Is there already some sort of PC-Amos port? Please mail me your opinions (or post 'em right here for that matter...) Erik Sintorn - f100430@hogia.net From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 22:07:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 22:07:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00189 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA11291 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11288 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.154]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA19679 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1009571; 20 Jan 98 2:02 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Erik CC: Amos List Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:27:45 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <69tapl$5ct$1@zingo.tninet.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: AMOS for PC? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id VAA11289 Status: O X-Status: On Sunday 18-Jan-98 at 16:31:49, a nutter named Erik had wet pants when they typed about `AMOS for PC?'. >Is there no interest whatsoever for a >PC-Amos? Well, If I am not, do you think it would be possible to get the >source from Mandarin Software (Or whoever owns it now) or do you think it >would be easier to rewrite the whole thing. Or, am I possibly to late? Is >there >already some sort of PC-Amos port? Please mail me your opinions (or post >'em right here for that matter...) >Erik Sintorn - f100430@hogia.net Hi Erik, Europress were (reformed name, no longer Manderin) resposnsible for Amos and I have a contact who works at Europress. In fact, many of the list members may also know of him. Lee Bamber anyone? Relics Of Deldroneye? Yup, good old Lee got a job with Europress a couple of years back. Apparantly he helped out with development with Klick N Play too. Anyway, Europress have `NO' plans to release Amos for the PC (or an Amiga update). Even the source code has been held back. Dunno why? There were rumours that it was gonna be released to Amiga PD some time back, but methinx that was just a Myth! When Europress moved to the PC, they took all the ideas from Amos and created Klick N Play. A pile of crap (for those of you who have tried it, for those who haven't - don't!) Klick N Play was a flop! You mainly get it bundled FREE with some PC's now. It's only of use to spotty kids wanting to impress their other PC friends with rude words on their games! Anyway, Europress never give up and when an update for Amos was required, we got Easy Amos and then Amos Pro, what did the PC get? Ahem...The Games Factory. This is just another Klick N Play, but with added features and gfx to use etc. Still a pile of pooh. I firmly believe that Europress would have already released Amos for the PC (maybe called PCOS) by now. After all, Klick N Play flopped and The Games Factory isn't doing much better....so I assure you that Amos is NOT an option at present. So what are Europress' plans? Guess what? They have now started to distribute other software house's games! Slamtilt being one of 'em. Obviously they still sell their own products such as Fun School etc. They also released a few SONG BOOK titles. BLUR and OASIS. These CD's hold titles, words, music, video etc of the bands mentioned. Yet again, another Europress pile of crap! Budget software galore is being released on PC though. As I said, mainly from other houses, just distributed by Europress. Nothing to write home about...yet! Most of these titles (about 10UKP each) sell in bargain buckets. No box or manual, just a CD case and the inset. Nothing of quality ever shone through in any Europress releases apart from Amos for the Amiga. They had a good product and a good user base. Sure, they must be making a fortune on the PC distributing everyone elses titles now, but they will NEVER have as good a product (of their own) as they did with Amos on the Amiga. That is a fact. If you don't believe me, check out their web site. I think it's: www.europress.co.uk (search for europress if it's not and you'll get there....) Go into any software shop such as Electronic Boutique, Game, Dixons, Currys, Comet, Toys R Us, PC World etc...you will find lots of Eurporess stuff for PC at bargain prices and I for one hope that you will NEVER find Amos! It's an Amiga product (ahem, well, ST to begin with I guess) and should stay that way. It wouldn't be right if PC owners had anything like this. I have been using Amos for years and it's one bit of software that keeps me from buying a PC and ditchin' my Miggy! If PC's did get Amos, how many peeps would buy a PC? I might, but I don't wanna!!! The Amiga is now going uphill and maybe, just maybe, Europress will see fit to re-release Amos in an update. But I have to ask myself, should we really support this software house after they left all us Amos users alone with no updates for so long....? I wonder just how much money Europress would want for the rights (and source) for Amos Pro? How many peeps are on this Amos List? Maybe we could all throw in a few quid and buy it ourselves? Now that would be nice....keep dreaming....I guess.... Anyway guys, I'm typing a lot here, so I'd better sign off and let you get back to your production(s) I guess. Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions 1998 (aka SKiDZ/A51) -- +----/¯¯¯¯|--/¯¯¯¯|--/¯¯¯¯|--/¯¯¯¯|-::::::.--------------------------+ ¦ / /¯| | / /¯| | / /¯¯¯ / /¯| | :: ::--Andy-Gibson-(SKiDZ/A51)-¦ ¦ / /¯¯¯ |/ /¯¯¯_|/ /¯¯¯¯|/ /¯¯¯ | :::. :: ¦ ¦ / /¯¯¯| | /¯¯\ \/ /¯¯¯¯¯/ /¯¯¯| | :: ::-andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk-¦ +/_/----|_|/----\/_/¯¯¯¯¯¯|/----|_|-.::: ::--------------------------+ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ - - -- --- --- ----> sUPP0RTING aMIGA! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 10:32:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 10:32:23 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27929 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA26566 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26563 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (vtn1.victoria.tc.ca [199.60.222.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07023 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uv334@localhost) by vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28867; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:11:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:11:41 -0800 (PST) From: John Bintz X-Sender: uv334@vtn1 To: Jamie Bentley cc: AMOS HELP Subject: Re: Need programmer for RPG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Guess what...I think I have something already that might fit the bill. The editor i use for my RPG system can do all that, and it produces text files which can easily be read, and interpreted, by any program other than mine. A few small changes can be made to fit your exact needs, but, other than that, it can do the following: * Draw, and compress, bobs in the editor (another util takes Amos bob banks and compresses them externally) * Allow up to 256 zones on a screen of any size that players can bump into, start scripts, or, in your case, allow clicking on for info. * Allow up to 64 characters and other bobs on a screen, all animated as they walk using special FrameSets to define animations up to 10 frames long. * 64 EHB screens are de facto for games like this, and the editor already has this built-in. Plus, screens are super-compressed, just like the bobs, so they take up no space at all. * Compression is Spack, plus XPK Nuke, which does a eal number on images (a 200000 byte bob bank becomes 100000 when Spacked, 50000 when Nuked also) * Bob optimization, resulting in smaller Bob bank sizes (but not smaller compressed file sizes) so they take less memory when running. I'll even let you use my bob FrameSet animation and cacheing routines. What do you day? #@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@ John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca * @#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@# Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software! http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html *#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*# From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 09:31:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 09:31:44 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12574 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:31:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA26549 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:11:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26546 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:11:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07358 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24508 invoked by uid 1514); 19 Jan 1998 13:12:22 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:12:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Matt X-Sender: mattw@orca To: "Lee." cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Timing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Lee. wrote: > I need a delay which I can vary in length. Easy enough although the > delay must be between 0 and a Vbl. > Vbl being the maximum allowable time delay. > At the mo I am drawing a box off screen somewhere a variable amount > of times, there must be a more elegant and time constant way of doing > this. I think it's in the Turbo+ extension: Vbl Wait Y where Y is the position of the raster beam (I think that's what you call it - the beam that zips around the screen updating it) so by waiting until that is at a certain pos you can wait between 0-Vbl. Of course I'm probably wrong on this or confusing it with something else but it's early in the morning - you understand! ### ### ######## ########### ########### #### #### ### ### ### ### ##!## ##!## #!# #!# #!# #!# !#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@! !@! !@! matt@netsoc.ucd.ie !!! ! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! x x :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: \__/ ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: :: :: :: :: : : From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 07:03:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 07:03:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26768 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA25980 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25977 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06079 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 04:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:53:35 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 19 Jan 98 09:58:54 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 19 Jan 98 09:29:14 GMT+0 From: "Lee." Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:26:52 GMT+0 Subject: Timing Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: Status: O X-Status: Ello. Prospector Pete is nearly finished (MYST held it up over chrissy). One problem though:- I need a delay which I can vary in length. Easy enough although the delay must be between 0 and a Vbl. Vbl being the maximum allowable time delay. At the mo I am drawing a box off screen somewhere a variable amount of times, there must be a more elegant and time constant way of doing this. ???????? ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Windows, brick, fzzzt !!!!! ________________________________________ From rwbenjamin@sosbbs.com Mon Jan 19 08:12:26 1998 >From rwbenjamin@sosbbs.com Mon Jan 19 08:12:26 1998 Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13070 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from PC_rwbenjamin.sosbbs.com (204.186.168.62) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:09:56 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Conversation with last message Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: "AoD" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Robert W. Benjamin" Subject: Re: AMOS for PC? Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 08:01:25 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: There is a language coming out for the PC which has the same commands as AMOS, Garfield can give you the name and address, you need a 32 bit pc operating system (Win 95), I have 3.1 which won't allow me to use it. yes.. in the real wordl, the AMIGA is dead! I am starting to program on the pc, using Better basic, or Quick Basic 4.5 at first. My AMIGA coding days have ended, into gateway 2000 or amiga international actualy do something, and it looks like they are standing still.... Robert W. Benjamin ---------- > Hey guys. Don't stop reading now, but don't you think it's time for an AMOS > port for PC:s? Seriously, The Amiga is a wonderfull machine and all but you > must admit it's not THAT popular anymore. And the AMOS programming > language is far to important to sink with the amiga (Okay, I know most of you > say the amiga will rise again and sure, if it did I would be the first to > start writing > Amiga AMOS extensions again but until it does...) > You know... When a guy with a PC want's to start programming he gets to > choose between QuickBasic, which is deadly boring and almost unusable for > any form of graphics programming, or Klik and Play, which is not programming > at all. (You seriously don't learn programming from drag dropping your mouse > for an hour.) Am I completetly wrong? Is there no interest whatsoever for a > PC-Amos? Well, If I am not, do you think it would be possible to get the > source from Mandarin Software (Or whoever owns it now) or do you think it > would be easier to rewrite the whole thing. Or, am I possibly to late? Is > there > already some sort of PC-Amos port? Please mail me your opinions (or post > 'em right here for that matter...) > > Erik Sintorn - f100430@hogia.net > > > From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 14:37:54 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 14:37:53 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05594 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02406 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:43:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02401 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:43:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29031 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.57) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:41:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" , "Erik" Subject: If you MUST have AMOS for PC then READ THIS!! (was 'AMOS for PC?') Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:52:16 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: I'm assuming this was posted to the list, but if it wasn't (it ended up in my "In-Box"), I'm still replying to the list as there seems to be a lot of interest in this subject and this is the closest thing I've found. I'm also on the Allegro mailing list (PC C/Allegro developers) and one of the projects being developed should be of interest to you guys... > Hey guys. Don't stop reading now, but don't you think it's time for > an AMOS port for PC:s? Seriously, The Amiga is a wonderfull >machine and all but you must admit it's not THAT popular anymore. Well, no the Amiga isn't mainstream anymore... > And the AMOS programming language is far to important to sink > with the amiga... You know... When a guy with a PC want's to start > programming he gets to choose between QuickBasic, which is > deadly boring and almost unusable for any form of graphics > programming, or Klik and Play, which is not programming at all. I'm not sure about that... there are loads of languages available for the PC. Personally, I prefer C/Allegro over anything... > Is there no interest whatsoever for a PC-Amos? Well, If I am not, > do you think it would be possible to get the source from Mandarin > Software (Or whoever owns it now) or do you think it would be > easier to rewrite the whole thing. Or, am I possibly to late? Is there > already some sort of PC-Amos port? Please mail me your opinions > (or post 'em right here for that matter...) I think it would be far easier to visit the following website: http://www.games.ndirect.co.uk/ Once you've arrived, click on the "The Game Creator" link. In case you're curious about what you'll find, "The Game Creator" sounds vaguely familiar... doesn't it? Take care, GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA&IBM):15% complete(...5 days) -->First screen-shots are on my GAMES page<-- "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website(http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam): 40% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 15:11:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 15:11:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03234 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04478 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04475 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailext02.compaq.com (mailext02.compaq.com [207.18.199.33]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22756 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.compaq.com(really [207.18.199.36]) by mailext02.compaq.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:12:08 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.92 1997-Feb-9 #2 built 1997-Sep-10) Received: from exchou-conn01.im.hou.compaq.com(really [172.18.22.253]) by mail.compaq.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Mon, 19 Jan 98 11:17:08 -0600 (CST) (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.2 built 25-may-96) Received: by exchou-conn01.im.hou.compaq.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD24CB.C7521BD0@exchou-conn01.im.hou.compaq.com>; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:17:07 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Engvall, Sofia" To: "'AMOS-List'" Subject: A lot of questions... :-) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:15:50 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Hi all! :-) First of all... Sorry if I'm asking a lot of stupid questions which you all probably know the answers to!!! :-/ (Are there any AMOS FAQ?) I use AMOS Pro, uppdated to version 2.0, and the compiler. (No extentions loaded.) - Is there a bug in the Parallel commands? As soon as I use Parallel Get, Parallel Send... the computer goes stone dead!!! :-( - Is there an AGA extention? If there is, where do I get it / the best one? - How do I got Amiga-M to work with my AMOS programs? - How good is Blitz Basic? Is it a big difference from AMOS? - Can I include C and / or assembler source and / or compiled programs into my AMOS programs in any way? - Are there any programming language similar to AMOS on the PC? Or any header file for C with AMOS similar commands? (I'm not talknig about Windows crap now :-)) - Are there any good extensions for music? For example something to play modules better? - How do I create extentions? Are there any guide/instruction for this? - Are the bob routines reely this bad??? Yesterday I changed the background under a bob (with a bar) and then moved the bob... guess what happened... nothing (exept a small flicker the backgound was just the same as before). I then tried pasting the bob before... what happened then??? nothing exept that irritating flicker again!!! :-( Finally I just went back to the sprite I had used earlier... (and got less colours) no problems! Are there any extention or something with better routines? Poouh... Oki... time to catch some breath... Sorry for taking up your time... but I reely hope you have the answers to my questions! :-) Thanks in advance! :-) Have a nice day and good luck with your programming!!! :-) /Sofia sofia.engvall@compaq.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Computer: Amiga 1200 Accelerator: Blizzard 1260 with 16MB RAM Hard drives: Internal 80 MB HD and external 2 GB HD Floppys: Intenal DD-floppy, externel DD-floppy and external HD-floppy CD-ROM: 12x IDE (Telmex) PCMCIA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 09:16:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 09:16:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21094 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:16:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA26420 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26417 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefox.modusmedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18354 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:16:53 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from [192.168.133.3] by firefox.modusmedia.com via smtpd (for pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) with SMTP; 19 Jan 1998 12:16:52 UT Received: from smtp3.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.83]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA109 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:18:58 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp3.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 2) id 00000405; Sun, 18 Jan 98 17:15:04 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:00:44 -0700 Message-ID: <00000405.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Screen Grabber To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Does anyone have a good screen grabber utility. I am looking to grab some screen shots from workbench. TIA. Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 17:30:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 17:30:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14551 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06980 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06977 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:56:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco6-86.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.86]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16369 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:56:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp12-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.61]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA09570 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:51:15 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:55:05 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: form to mail? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: What form processors are you guys using? I can't get the one I have to work. It's running on a linux machine and is written in perl. Can somebody send me one that works? Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 19:28:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 19:28:29 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00336 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:28:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09482 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:40:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09479 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:40:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA02448 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.67) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:37:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: Screen Grabber Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:45:47 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > Does anyone have a good screen grabber utility. I am looking to > grab some screen shots from workbench. TIA. Any GOOD PaintProgram will have a "Grab" option which will allow you to easily grab a Workbench-screenshot. If you don't have a decent PaintProgram (how do you get by), I can go into BLITZ and throw together a simple one for you (time permitting of course)... Right now, I'm about to launch PersonalPaint and work on a new "baddie" (copyrighted term for enemy appearing in developer's latest project)... Take care, GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA&IBM):15% complete(...5 days) -->New screen-shots are on my GAMES page<-- "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 40% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 19:37:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 19 19:37:39 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21310 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09487 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:40:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09484 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:40:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05123 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.67) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:37:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: A lot of questions... :-) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:47:50 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello. I'll take a few of these questions... > - How good is Blitz Basic? Is it a big difference from AMOS? Go to my webpage (see below in my signature). Click on the AMIGA-link then click on the AMOS-link. Download the archive containing "the AMOS&BLITZ demos". It's nothing spectacular, but it will allow you to see first hand how well the two languages perform. Also, you can read my views of AMOS and BLITZ (go to the BLITZ-page). > - Can I include C and / or assembler source and / or compiled > programs into my AMOS programs in any way? Source, no. Executable, yes. BLITZ allows inclusion of both source and excutable Asm. Also very easy to convert from C to BLITZ... > - Are there any programming language similar to AMOS on the > PC? Or any header file for C with AMOS similar commands? > (I'm not talknig about Windows crap now :-)) See message I posted to list VERY recently: Subject:"If you MUST have AMOS for PC then READ THIS!!" Hmmm... you are on the AMOS-list, right? If not, and you didn't receive that previous message, drop me a quick line and I'll give you the URL for a PC AMOS... If you want to use C then check out the Allegro game library. It contains loads of powerful commands for MIDI, WAV playing, bitmaps, palettes, sprites, scrolling, etc. It really "ROCKS!!!" Go to my IBMclone page and you can download two simple demos I created with C/Allegro:CrzyStar and BOBdemo. > - Are the bob routines reely this bad??? Yesterday I changed > the background under a bob (with a bar) and then moved the > bob... guess what happened... nothing (exept a small flicker > the backgound was just the same as before)... Well, the bobs might be considered "bad"... but, that's not the cause of your problem. Chances are, you're trying to do the above without shutting down AMOS's automatic bob-update system. Try something like this (after opening your screen and in place of your current "loop"): Double Buffer : Autoback 0 : Bob Update Off Amal Off : Synchro Off : Sprite Update Off : Flash Off Rem the first thing I do in my AMOS-coding: Kill all that junk!! Now, we can begin... ALLDONE=False Repeat Bob Clear : Rem ... Remove the Bobs Ink Rnd(31) : Rem ...Select a Random Colour Bar 80,100,y1 to 239,155 : Rem ...Draw the Bar Rem Update your Bobs position here... Bob Anumber, Xpos, Ypos, AnImageNumber Bob Draw : Rem ...Now Redraw the Bobs If (Fire(0) Or Fire(1)) then ALLDONE=True Screen Swap : Wait Vbl Until ALLDONE The key is to do all your background modifications (in your case, using the Bar command) between the Bob Clear and Bob Draw statements. Hope this helps!! Take care, GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA&IBM):15% complete(...5 days) -->New screen-shots are on my GAMES page<-- "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 40% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 00:34:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 00:34:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14158 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:34:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA12287 for amos-out; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12284 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA20169 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:38:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA15614; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:39:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:39:17 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: AMOS for PC? To: Erik cc: amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: <69tapl$5ct$1@zingo.tninet.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 18 Jan 1998, Erik wrote: > Hey guys. Don't stop reading now, but don't you think it's time for an AMOS > port for PC:s? Seriously, >[SNIP] > Erik Sintorn - f100430@hogia.net Seriously why not just give the Amigas arch nemesis AMOS,AmigaDOS, and of course are custom chip set, so thay to can toast more then just bread. If the PC's gets every thing that makes the Amiga an Amiga why the fuck would any one buy an Amiga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 08:45:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 08:45:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00229 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA16673 for amos-out; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16670 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailext02.compaq.com (mailext02.compaq.com [207.18.199.33]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA26366 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.compaq.com(really [207.18.199.36]) by mailext02.compaq.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:52:00 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.92 1997-Feb-9 #2 built 1997-Sep-10) Received: from exchou-conn01.im.hou.compaq.com(really [172.18.22.253]) by mail.compaq.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Tue, 20 Jan 98 05:57:08 -0600 (CST) (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.2 built 25-may-96) Received: by exchou-conn01.im.hou.compaq.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD2568.3DD09BF0@exchou-conn01.im.hou.compaq.com>; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:57:08 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Engvall, Sofia" To: "'amos-list@access.digex.net'" Subject: RE: A lot of questions... :-) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:57:43 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: >>> - Is there a bug in the Parallel commands? As soon as I use >>> Parallel Get, Parallel Send... the computer goes stone dead!!! :-( > >> No theres no bug, the miggy is just waiting for hand shake signals >> from parallel.device (or is it printer, i forget?) > >Hi Lee! :-) > >It is the Parallel device... >When I try this I have my computer connected (with parallel 0-modem >cable) to another (my boyfriends Amiga 500 with OS3.1). I run Parallel >Send "xxx" on one of them and Parallel Get (don't remember...) on the >other... I have done a parallel check before to... Do I have to do >something more??? Or is this simply not what it was meant for??? > >Thanx for the reply! :-) > >/Sofia >sofia.engvall@compaq.com > > From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 14:10:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 14:10:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01498 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20772 for amos-out; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:52:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20769 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18273 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29051 invoked from network); 20 Jan 1998 14:52:42 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 20 Jan 1998 14:52:42 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.1]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA44698; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:52:40 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: "Engvall, Sofia" CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:54:25 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hi all! :-) >First of all... Sorry if I'm asking a lot of stupid questions which >you all probably know the answers to!!! :-/ >(Are there any AMOS FAQ?) First of all, I've never seen a stupid question on this list, I've seen stupid answers :)) >- Is there an AGA extention? If there is, where do I get it / the > best one? There's no direct AGA extension out now, but some alows you to use AGA, one is the OSDevKit (comercial) but it's a real pain to use. A more decent choice is the intuition extension, but it don't support palette settings very well. I know of two that's on the way the GUI extensions is coming in version 1.63 that should support AGA, and the JADE AGA extension is currently in Beta-status. Besides an extension known as the 'game extension' is in the works. Drop by my extension list at my site for more information on extensions :)) (Intuition is availeble for download) >- How do I got Amiga-M to work with my AMOS programs? You don't, AMOS is NOT using standard intuition screens and can't use the default keys (you can't use Amiga-N to get to WB from amos). Again some extensions allow you to use standard Intuition screens (same as the AGA extensions).. >- Can I include C and / or assembler source and / or compiled > programs into my AMOS programs in any way? ASM programs and compiled C can be included as either a databank and called with the 'call' command or they can be included as an procedure in your program and called like any other procedure.. >- Are there any good extensions for music? For example > something to play modules better? Get hold of the DOOM extension (at mush's or at my site), it's proberly the best, other extensions like AMCAF (shareware) or SLN (Danish docs) also holds good protracker players.. >- How do I create extentions? Are there any guide/instruction > for this? See the source-code for the music extension ('tutorial/extensions/music.s' I think), it contains information on the way it's done, both on the special file-format, the special commands availeble and how to get/return variables in your commands.. >Poouh... Oki... time to catch some breath... Sorry for taking >up your time... but I reely hope you have the answers to my >questions! :-) I've left those out I don't know anything about, but as far as I can see others have dealt with those before.. -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Meets quality standards = It compiles without errors. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 19:33:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 19:33:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15361 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA08514 for amos-out; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08511 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA07499 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:18:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14434 invoked from network); 20 Jan 1998 23:18:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.150) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 20 Jan 1998 23:18:31 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com, amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:20:49 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00019433.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: GUI Hot Links Editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA08512 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 21-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "GUI Hot Links Editor" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> »-> I am having a small problem with this utility, it may sound a bit »-> stupid but I can't figure it out. »-> »-> I have selected my first Root gadget and the appropiate Link gadget. »-> How do I move on to select my next Root gadget? This is one feature im completely re-writing (with working examples) in the next guidefile for the release of the public version of the new extension (very soon) so if you bear with me a couple of days longer, I can send you the finished text files for this editor. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 05:44:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 05:44:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22852 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16512 for amos-out; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16509 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:32:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22614 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:45:28 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 20 Jan 98 08:50:46 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 20 Jan 98 08:49:51 GMT+0 From: "Lee." Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:41:56 GMT+0 Subject: Re: A lot of questions... :-) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <2B2A6513@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: > - Is there a bug in the Parallel commands? As soon as I use > Parallel Get, Parallel Send... the computer goes stone dead!!! :-( No theres no bug, the miggy is just waiting for hand shake signals from parallel.device (or is it printer, i forget?) ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Windows, brick, fzzzt !!!!! ________________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 15:39:02 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 15:39:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23868 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:39:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20981 for amos-out; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:59:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20978 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailext02.compaq.com (mailext02.compaq.com [207.18.199.33]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18535 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.compaq.com(really [207.18.199.36]) by mailext02.compaq.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:54:11 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.92 1997-Feb-9 #2 built 1997-Sep-10) Received: from exchou-conn02.im.hou.compaq.com(really [172.18.22.250]) by mail.compaq.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Tue, 20 Jan 98 08:59:19 -0600 (CST) (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.2 built 25-may-96) Received: by exchou-conn02.im.hou.compaq.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD2581.B151AA10@exchou-conn02.im.hou.compaq.com>; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:59:19 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Engvall, Sofia" To: "'AMOS-List'" Subject: RE: A lot of questions... :-) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:57:56 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: > >> Hello. I'll take a few of these questions... > >Thanx! :-) > >>> - How good is Blitz Basic? Is it a big difference from AMOS? > >I mostlly though the second question to be about the differance >programming them... but also what it sounds like... :-) > >> Go to my webpage (see below in my signature). Click on the >> AMIGA-link then click on the AMOS-link. Download the archive >> containing "the AMOS&BLITZ demos". It's nothing spectacular, >> but it will allow you to see first hand how well the two languages >> perform. Also, you can read my views of AMOS and BLITZ (go >> to the BLITZ-page). > >I'll do this... but I don't have the URL to Blitz... I'll find it... >hopefully :-) > >>> - Can I include C and / or assembler source and / or compiled >>> programs into my AMOS programs in any way? >> Source, no. Executable, yes. BLITZ allows inclusion of both >> source and excutable Asm. Also very easy to convert from C to >> BLITZ... > >How do I include an exacutable into the source? Con I include it >into my compiled version to? > >>> - Are there any programming language similar to AMOS on the >>> PC? Or any header file for C with AMOS similar commands? >>> (I'm not talknig about Windows crap now :-)) >> >> See message I posted to list VERY recently: >> Subject:"If you MUST have AMOS for PC then READ THIS!!" >> Hmmm... you are on the AMOS-list, right? If not, and you didn't >> receive that previous message, drop me a quick line and I'll give >> you the URL for a PC AMOS... > >I've found the mail but the link >"http://www.games.ndirect.co.uk/tgc_index.html" >didn't work :-( Might be compaq's net but I don't think so since I >got to "http://www.games.ndirect.co.uk/"... Can you double-check? :-) > >> If you want to use C then check out the Allegro game library. It >> contains loads of powerful commands for MIDI, WAV playing, >> bitmaps, palettes, sprites, scrolling, etc. It really "ROCKS!!!" >> >> Go to my IBMclone page and you can download two simple demos >> I created with C/Allegro:CrzyStar and BOBdemo. > >This sounds reely interesting... I ve been on your page now... :-) >Where do I get Allegro? > >>> - Are the bob routines reely this bad??? Yesterday I changed >>> the background under a bob (with a bar) and then moved the >>> bob... guess what happened... nothing (exept a small flicker >>> the backgound was just the same as before)... >> >> Well, the bobs might be considered "bad"... but, that's not the >> cause of your problem. Chances are, you're trying to do the above >> without shutting down AMOS's automatic bob-update system. >> Try something like this (after opening your screen and in place of >> your current "loop"): >> >> Double Buffer : Autoback 0 : Bob Update Off >> Amal Off : Synchro Off : Sprite Update Off : Flash Off >> Rem the first thing I do in my AMOS-coding: Kill all that junk!! >> >> Now, we can begin... >> >> ALLDONE=False >> Repeat >> Bob Clear : Rem ... Remove the Bobs >> >> Ink Rnd(31) : Rem ...Select a Random Colour >> Bar 80,100,y1 to 239,155 : Rem ...Draw the Bar >> >> Rem Update your Bobs position here... >> Bob Anumber, Xpos, Ypos, AnImageNumber >> >> Bob Draw : Rem ...Now Redraw the Bobs >> If (Fire(0) Or Fire(1)) then ALLDONE=True >> Screen Swap : Wait Vbl >> Until ALLDONE >> >> The key is to do all your background modifications (in your case, >> using the Bar command) between the Bob Clear and Bob Draw >> statements. >> >> Hope this helps!! > >Oh... thanx a lot... I have to hurry home and test it! :-) > >Can't someone make Compaq's phone lines go down (I'm on the >phone support :-( ) so I can go staight away!!! ;-) >I've got four long hours left of the day... > >> Take care, >> GARFIELD > >Take care yourself and good luck with your projects! :-) > >/Sofia >sofia.engvall@compaq.com > > From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 15:36:03 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 15:36:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09908 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22488 for amos-out; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22483 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco6-86.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.86]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05284 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:57:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp18-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.67]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA04378 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:52:40 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:54:38 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199801200558.QAA21686@saturn.vision.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: CBATNAM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 20-Jan-98, James Brown (Ender/Gcc) wrote: >me in about anything important thats happened to Bubba while I've >been gone? Except for the dungeon stage `tomorrow for sure', all the stages are done. My system is without SCSI controller for a while longer, so the CB final assembly is on hold. We still have no anims and no between stage pictures. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 18:30:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 18:30:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15741 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA04880 for amos-out; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04877 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:11:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04008 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.54) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:09:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: A lot of questions... :-) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:19:40 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: >> How good is Blitz Basic? Is it a big difference from AMOS? >> How do I include an exacutable into the source? Con I include it >> into my compiled version to? >> I've found the mail but the link >> "http://www.games.ndirect.co.uk/tgc_index.html" >> didn't work :-( Might be compaq's net but I don't think so since I >> got to "http://www.games.ndirect.co.uk/"... Can you double- >> check? >> This sounds reely interesting... I ve been on your page now... :-) >> Where do I get Allegro? Well, these are all NON-AMOS related now, so better to move them off the list... I'll reply to you personally. One note though, the link to "The Game Creator" (PC-AMOS) should work fine. It worked for me as well as two others who have tried it and wrote back... Take care, GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA&IBM):15% complete(...5 days) -->New screen-shots are on my GAMES page<-- "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 40% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 14:03:24 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 20 14:03:23 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27203 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22599 for amos-out; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22596 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefox.modusmedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04791 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:03:24 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from [192.168.133.3] by firefox.modusmedia.com via smtpd (for [204.91.241.6]) with SMTP; 20 Jan 1998 16:03:24 UT Received: from smtp1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.82]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA164 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:05:03 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp1.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 2) id 00019433; Tue, 20 Jan 98 09:02:27 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:51:33 -0700 Message-ID: <00019433.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: GUI Hot Links Editor To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: I am having a small problem with this utility, it may sound a bit stupid but I can't figure it out. I have selected my first Root gadget and the appropiate Link gadget. How do I move on to select my next Root gadget? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 17:37:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 17:37:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13332 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17088 for amos-out; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:31:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17085 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18184 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15914 invoked from network); 21 Jan 1998 19:32:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@205.246.88.82) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 21 Jan 1998 19:32:26 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:34:22 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00000805.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Negative Values on GUI Sliders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id OAA17086 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 21-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Negative Values on GUI Sliders" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> »-> Hi, »-> »-> I have a slider with a value range of -50 to 50. When I go below »-> zero on the slider the linked integer does not display the negative »-> value properly. It actually displays a value of 655 when I first go »-> below zero. Is this a problem with GUI or the slider itself, or maybe »-> the integer. Any help would be appreciated. Are you setting the maximum/minumum vales using GadToolsBox, or the GUI SET Command? Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 12:04:33 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 12:04:33 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07430 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20407 for amos-out; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:13:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20404 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco6-84.cas.golden.net [207.216.76.84]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04434 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp19-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.68]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA21045 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:08:25 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:57:25 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: CBATNAM progress... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 20-Jan-98, Garfield Benjamin wrote: > How is the CBATNAM module-integration progressing? It is not, since I upgraded to my 1200 and have not got my scsi controller yet. (cbatnam is on my scsi hd) > Our music guy (EJS), had planned at one point on doing a special > "Boss-tune" for the FinalBossBattle Phase of my SideShooter. If > he is still doing that, then the phase might be fine the way it is. I haven't received any new music (nor most of the music) at this point. > Anyway, I hope things aren't held up because I haven't made > these modifications yet... :) You aren't holding it up at all. > Other than this, what else needs to be done before CBATNAM is > ready for distribution?? Are all the stages complete??? The final stage is probably going to be completed sometime in 2002. There are no in between stage pictures. There are no anims. Well met and godspeed, Giark giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 05:20:50 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 05:20:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22812 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 05:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA14790 for amos-out; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14787 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:43:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefox.modusmedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA01316 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:43:03 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from [192.168.133.3] by firefox.modusmedia.com via smtpd (for pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) with SMTP; 21 Jan 1998 08:43:02 UT Received: from smtp3.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.83]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA172 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:45:37 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp3.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 2) id 00000805; Tue, 20 Jan 98 13:41:32 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:31:39 -0700 Message-ID: <00000805.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Negative Values on GUI Sliders To: amos-list@access.digex.net, ghizzo@agonet.it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: Hi, I have a slider with a value range of -50 to 50. When I go below zero on the slider the linked integer does not display the negative value properly. It actually displays a value of 655 when I first go below zero. Is this a problem with GUI or the slider itself, or maybe the integer. Any help would be appreciated. Declan. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 16:48:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 16:48:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00414 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:48:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08911 for amos-out; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:04:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08907 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.demon.nl (post.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA14053 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lobster.demon.nl ([194.159.230.120]) by post.demon.nl id aa0017095; 21 Jan 98 19:03 MET Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980121190342.007ade60@pop3.demon.nl> X-Sender: lobster@pop3.demon.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:03:44 +0100 To: "Mr. Giark To You" , AMOS List From: Evert-Jan Slypen Subject: Re: CBATNAM progress... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: At 09:57 21-1-1998 -0500, Mr. Giark To You wrote: >> Our music guy (EJS), had planned at one point on doing a special >> "Boss-tune" for the FinalBossBattle Phase of my SideShooter. If >> he is still doing that, then the phase might be fine the way it is. > >I haven't received any new music (nor most of the music) at this point. I haven't heard from Michael yet (the converter guy). I'll call him tomorrow to see how far he is (considering most tunes are huge big puslating pod-spawning behemoths). Anyway, the layout for the tunes is something like this... |- Title Tune |- Intro Tune (haven't made this one yet) |- Highscore Tune |- No Highscore Tune |- Credits Tune |- Level 1 Tunes | |- Get Ready | |- Life Lost | |- Game Over | |- Phase 1 Ingame Tune | |- Mid Boss Tune | |- Phase 2 Ingame Tune | |- End Boss Tune | |- Boss Defeated! | `- Stage Completed! |- Level 2 Tunes | |- Get Ready | |- Life Lost | |- Game Over | |- It's the Boss! | |- Level xx Tune (Outdoors Level) | |- Level xx Boss Tune | |- Level yy Tune (Arctic Level) | |- Level yy Boss Tune | |- Level zz Tune (Scary Level) | |- Level zz Boss Tune | |- Level Complete! | `- Stage Complete! |- Level 3 Tunes | |- Life Lost | |- Game Over | |- Slow Explorer Tune | |- Fighting Tune | `- Stage Complete! |- Level 4 Tunes | |- Life Lost | |- Game Over | |- Ingame tune | `- Stage Complete! |- Secret Tunes | |- Get Ready | |- Game Over | |- Stage Complete! | |- Ingame Tune |- Game Completed (Bubba and Girlfriend screen) `- Game Lost (Taxman screen) Seeing that no two tunes are alike, this makes a grand total of 45 tunes. Now, if anything should be changed or added; let me know and I can squeeze it in... Anyway, I'll call him tomorrow. I'll probably give him a hand because it's hard to find good samples for synthsounds (and I'm still not happy with the way the Secret tunes sound in PT.. but that's another story :). --- Eef. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 17:22:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 17:22:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20716 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12132 for amos-out; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12126 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgi.inet.tele.dk (cgi.inet.tele.dk [194.182.149.95]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA06341 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18864 invoked from network); 21 Jan 1998 18:42:24 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by cgi.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 21 Jan 1998 18:42:24 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.58]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA50546 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:42:23 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:40:50 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: DeASM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello.. Just wondered, have any of you written a disassambler in AMOS, and if you have, may I have a copy of the source-code as it saves me the trouble of making one myselve :)) -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- fortune: No such file or directory -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 22:26:30 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 21 22:26:30 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12787 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:26:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA00575 for amos-out; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:35:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00572 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA08531 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27380 invoked by alias); 22 Jan 1998 02:35:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 27362 invoked from network); 22 Jan 1998 02:35:23 -0000 Received: from 1cust138.tnt2.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.17.138) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 22 Jan 1998 02:35:23 -0000 Message-ID: <003901bd26de$6562a240$8a11fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Mr. Giark to You" Cc: "Evert-Jan Slypen" , "Amos Mail Post" Subject: CBATNAM, etc. Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:35:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. Well, I was beginning to wonder if I was _EVER_ going to hear anything from Giark (for awhile there), CBATNAM-wise namely (hehe). > Except for the dungeon stage `tomorrow for sure', > all the stages are done. My system is without SCSI > controller for a while longer, so the CB final assembly is > on hold. We still have no anims and no between stage pictures. Hm.. I'm working on it (I'l be sending a short status report to the List in a bit on what's done, what's not, and last-minute things I'm working on).. I registered AMCAF about 3 weeks ago (end of the Holidays, _AWESOMELY COOL_ Extension, btw!), and have been talking with Chris about some new drawing commands. I've done quite a bit of optimizing, and even though it's some faster, it's not much (although through many tests and additions, there's quite a bit of improvement.) I'm working up on the logic for the enemies and objects, and after that's done I'll optimize what I can for those routines and wait on Chris' turn ups. I will be doing most of (if not all, unless you say otherwise) pics and at least anims for my level. > I haven't received any new music (nor most of the music) at this point. Hm.. me neither, although I _did_ just read EJ's message about the converting guys hold-ups, although I DO need that music! I won't be finishing ANYTHING until I can have SOMETHING to test in my level. > The final stage is probably going to be completed sometime in 2002. > There are no in between stage pictures. There are no anims. Hehe, very funny (pardon me while I laugh). It'll be done soon enough (take my word and say no else). I take it you have Andy Hawkin's (Tekken) level as well (I just wondered, as I hadn't heard anything from him in quite awhile, was curious as to where he was. Probably working, unlike us.) :) Basically, I've been quite busy lately (after the Holidays) doing studies and other things, but I'm getting right back to it here over the weekend. Btw, we do have perfectly sliding Wolfenstein doors (w/textures!)! I'll give a bit more info on this and some other bits in my status update. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 10:37:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 10:37:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10095 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04505 for amos-out; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:40:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04502 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA13628 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24267 invoked from network); 22 Jan 1998 12:40:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.142) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 22 Jan 1998 12:40:36 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Fabrizio Bazzo CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:41:02 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980122084828.0079f5c0@mail.seta.it> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Max value for listview MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id HAA04503 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 22-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Fabrizio jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Max value for listview" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Hi, »-> is there a way to set the index of the last visible item using a listview »-> with the GUI extension? »-> The array is always the same, but the number of available items can vary, »-> and i don't like all that blanked lines at the bottom... »-> any idea?? Use the GUI SET command with the slider parameters to set the amount of space available at that time, hence saving the display on the screen: SLIDER - Gui Set window,gadget,0,pos (Set Position of Bar) Gui Set window,gadget,1,sm (Set Minimum Value of Slider) Gui Set window,gadget,2,mx (Set Max Value of Slider) Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 09:42:32 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 09:42:32 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08791 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04514 for amos-out; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04511 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:40:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA28180 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:40:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24272 invoked from network); 22 Jan 1998 12:40:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.142) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 22 Jan 1998 12:40:40 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:42:13 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00000EBA.eval@modusmedia.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Re[2]: Negative Values on GUI Sliders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id HAA04512 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 22-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re[2]: Negative Values on GUI Sliders" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> »-> I am setting the values using GadToolsBox, min -50 & max +50. Should »-> I be using the GUI SET command? Try using the same values in GUI SET, not sure if it will work any better, but it might: SLIDER - Gui Set window,gadget,0,pos (Set Position of Bar) Gui Set window,gadget,1,sm (Set Minimum Value of Slider) Gui Set window,gadget,2,mx (Set Max Value of Slider) Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 04:25:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 04:25:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22930 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 04:25:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA04015 for amos-out; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 02:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04012 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 02:48:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailofseta.seta.it ([195.120.252.200]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11248 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 02:48:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from BANANARAMA by mailofseta.seta.it with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id CD8PQPGN; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:48:29 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980122084828.0079f5c0@mail.seta.it> X-Sender: fabrizio@mail.seta.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:48:28 +0100 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Fabrizio Bazzo Subject: Max value for listview Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: Hi, is there a way to set the index of the last visible item using a listview with the GUI extension? The array is always the same, but the number of available items can vary, and i don't like all that blanked lines at the bottom... any idea?? TIA, _____________ _//_____ +039-481-31655 fabrizio@mail.seta.it \//abrizio Bazzo SE.T.A. srl http://www.seta.it From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 07:21:25 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 07:21:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17080 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA04254 for amos-out; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 05:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04251 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 05:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.demon.nl (post.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20737 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 05:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lobster.demon.nl ([194.159.230.120]) by post.demon.nl id aa0013046; 22 Jan 98 11:51 MET Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980122115125.007adbe0@pop3.demon.nl> X-Sender: lobster@pop3.demon.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:51:27 +0100 To: Adam Parrott , "Mr. Giark to You" From: Evert-Jan Slypen Subject: Re: CBATNAM, etc. Cc: Amos Mail Post Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: O X-Status: At 20:35 21-1-1998 -0600, Adam Parrott wrote: >> I haven't received any new music (nor most of the music) at this point. >Hm.. me neither, although I _did_ just read EJ's message about the >converting guys hold-ups, although I DO need that music! I won't be >finishing ANYTHING until I can have SOMETHING to test in my level. I know and I humbly apologize for the holdup. I'll work on the Terror music myself, I had already started making a few patterns. Anyway, I can't really blame the converter guy for taking a bit longer, there really are a lot of tunes to cover and he has to go to school during the daytime. No excuses.. just an explanation. --- Eef. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 13:20:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 13:20:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15921 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:20:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12528 for amos-out; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12525 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (cisco17-48.cas.golden.net [207.216.119.48]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05320 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@ppp9-ts1-kw.huron.net [205.150.207.58]) by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA26640 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:55:04 -0600 From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:58:12 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980122115125.007adbe0@pop3.demon.nl> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: CBATNAM, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 22-Jan-98, Evert-Jan Slypen wrote: >Anyway, I can't really blame the converter guy for taking a bit longer, >there really are a lot of tunes to cover and he has to go to school during >the daytime. 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(519)579-0173 | | | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 05:20:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 22 05:20:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26844 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 05:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA04093 for amos-out; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 03:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA04090 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 03:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefox.modusmedia.com (earth.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA10597 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 03:10:23 -0500 (EST) From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com Received: from [192.168.133.3] by firefox.modusmedia.com via smtpd (for pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) with SMTP; 22 Jan 1998 08:10:23 UT Received: from smtp3.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.83]) by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA116 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:13:11 -0700 Received: from ccMail by smtp3.modusmedia.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 2) id 00000EBA; Wed, 21 Jan 98 13:08:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:59:30 -0800 Message-ID: <00000EBA.eval@modusmedia.com> Subject: Re[2]: Negative Values on GUI Sliders To: amos-list@access.digex.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Status: O X-Status: I am setting the values using GadToolsBox, min -50 & max +50. Should I be using the GUI SET command? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Negative Values on GUI Sliders Author: Mush at Internet Date: 21/01/98 14:34 Are you setting the maximum/minumum vales using GadToolsBox, or the GUI SET Command? From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 23 04:11:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 23 04:11:44 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14553 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 04:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA01892 for amos-out; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 02:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01889 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 02:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailofseta.seta.it ([195.120.252.200]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05106 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 02:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from BANANARAMA by mailofseta.seta.it with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id CD8PQPVJ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:42:02 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980123084203.007a2340@mail.seta.it> X-Sender: fabrizio@mail.seta.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:42:03 +0100 To: mushypd@redrose.net From: Fabrizio Bazzo Subject: Re: Max value for listview Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19980122084828.0079f5c0@mail.seta.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id CAA01890 Status: O X-Status: At 07.41 22/01/98 +0500, you wrote: >»-> is there a way to set the index of the last visible item using a listview >»-> with the GUI extension? >Use the GUI SET command with the slider parameters to set the amount of space >available at that time, hence saving the display on the screen: > Ok, i'll try to explain better: my problem is that the slider is not a gadget by its own, but is part of a listview+arrow up+arrow down + slider; the Gui Set cmd doesn't allow to set it individually afaik. May be the only solution is to split the listview into 4 entities?? _____________ _//_____ +039-481-31655 fabrizio@mail.seta.it \//abrizio Bazzo SE.T.A. srl http://www.seta.it From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 23 08:36:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 23 08:36:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00879 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA02282 for amos-out; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:26:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02279 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA28302 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:26:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2799 invoked from network); 23 Jan 1998 12:25:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.175) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 23 Jan 1998 12:25:49 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Fabrizio Bazzo CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:28:34 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980123084203.007a2340@mail.seta.it> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Max value for listview MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id HAA02280 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 23-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Fabrizio jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: Max value for listview" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Ok, i'll try to explain better: my problem is that the slider is not a »-> gadget by its own, but is part of a listview+arrow up+arrow down + slider; »-> the Gui Set cmd doesn't allow to set it individually afaik. »-> May be the only solution is to split the listview into 4 entities?? If you have a large Listview gadget on the screen, and say, you only wanted to display 2 items inside it, is this what you mean? The only way I can think of to do that, would to be physically shorten the array you are copying into it. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 23 14:19:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 23 14:19:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19514 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:19:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14670 for amos-out; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:46:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14667 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:46:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet11.ozemail.com.au (oznet11.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.118]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21754 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:46:22 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per2-62.space.net.au [203.38.11.192]) by oznet11.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA21952 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 03:46:14 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34C8C9A2.EE3@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 00:47:30 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: NEW StarFighter DEMO Available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello all, GOOD NEWS :) Star Fighter version 1.f is available in demo form. Go to this URL and follow the links to download both parts... http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geosync/index.html You may have to reload the links as they have changed recently. Enjoy :) Andy H. (GeoSync Media) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 23 23:17:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 23 23:17:50 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14364 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 23:17:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA23385 for amos-out; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 21:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23382 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 21:50:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA22901 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 21:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1036 invoked by alias); 24 Jan 1998 02:50:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 1014 invoked from network); 24 Jan 1998 02:50:31 -0000 Received: from 1cust246.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.246) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 24 Jan 1998 02:50:31 -0000 Message-ID: <002c01bd2872$e079bfa0$f610fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Evert-Jan Slypen" Cc: "Mr. Giark to You" , "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: CBATNAM, etc. Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:50:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > I know and I humbly apologize for the holdup. I'll work on the Terror > music myself, I had already started making a few patterns. > Anyway, I can't really blame the converter guy for taking a bit longer, > there really are a lot of tunes to cover and he has to go to school > during the daytime. No excuses.. just an explanation. Hey, no problem(s). Finish it when you can. :) I was just wondering when you would have something for testing in my level (not all of it). Anyhow, no problems, just let me know when you get SOMETHING. Tanks (hehe). Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 03:09:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 03:09:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20412 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 03:09:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10590 for amos-out; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10587 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA27062 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16946 invoked from network); 26 Jan 1998 05:44:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.135) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 26 Jan 1998 05:44:24 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au, amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:47:04 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <34CBE2A5.5A9D@mail.ozemail.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: StarFighter Download? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id AAA10588 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 26-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "StarFighter Download?" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Hi there all, »-> Has anyone downloaded the new StarFighter demo and played it yet? It`s »-> just that a few people have been having problems with the archives and I »-> was wondering if anyone else had problems? I have downloaded the archives for the PD library (took a hell of a long time for each) and will have a play on it tonight. I can make a link to my FTP site if you wish, it would certainly speed things up for a lot of places. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 02:25:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 02:25:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28188 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 02:25:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10613 for amos-out; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10610 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA15991 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17844 invoked from network); 26 Jan 1998 05:50:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.135) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 26 Jan 1998 05:50:51 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:53:31 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: FTP and webspace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: For those people who have FTP coounts with me (ones with a real login, not an assign) and would like to sample some web space, please get in touch with me. Ive installed a web server here and wish to test it a bit to get all the bugs out of it. If you dont have an account and would like one, simply send me a username and password for use in the FTP account, and also if you want a webpage, and if you want the FTP site available to the public. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 25 21:14:02 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Jan 25 21:14:02 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23900 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 21:14:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA08490 for amos-out; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08487 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet07.ozemail.com.au (oznet07.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.122]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19200 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:09:54 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie ([203.38.10.170]) by oznet07.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA01492 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:09:50 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34CBE2A5.5A9D@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:11:01 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: StarFighter Download? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi there all, Has anyone downloaded the new StarFighter demo and played it yet? It`s just that a few people have been having problems with the archives and I was wondering if anyone else had problems? Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 01:02:40 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 01:02:40 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23308 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10558 for amos-out; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10555 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19730 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port57.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.39]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01027 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:20:06 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: AMOS HELP Date: Sat, 26 Jan 1991 15:19:52 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: 3D Objects in amos? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello, Are the 3D objects in AMOS 3D RAW or are they some special AMOS format? JB From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 13:42:05 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 13:42:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19083 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20247 for amos-out; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:00:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20243 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01603 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:00:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19361 invoked from network); 26 Jan 1998 15:00:05 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 26 Jan 1998 15:00:05 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.35]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA40382 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:00:03 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:55:47 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Trackloading in AMOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hello.. I'm working on a trackloader in AMOS (for a game-editor), and I need to reserve the drive while working (just like format and DED does), so very simple: How do I lock a drive (and marks it as 'busy' to all other programs running) so I don't get all those blody 'NON-dos-disc-errors' from the WB and DOpus ??? BTW: How do I unlock it when I'm finished ? :) Thanx in advance :) -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Foolproof operation = All parameters are hard coded. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 23:31:35 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 23:31:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17483 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07972 for amos-out; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07969 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23466 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5111 invoked from network); 27 Jan 1998 02:44:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.161) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 27 Jan 1998 02:44:24 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:46:06 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <34CCE92D.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: sorry for this.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id VAA07970 Status: RO X-Status: It was on the night of 27-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Alastair jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "sorry for this...." until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Oh and when is the new GUI extension out? »-> And is Jade dead now? Im not sure of the exact release date, pietro hasnt got back to me yet. Im currently writing the docs for it, so it shouldnt be too far away. As for jade, im not sure about it. havent heard a peep from them in ages. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 20:41:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Jan 26 20:41:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27371 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23530 for amos-out; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23527 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21690 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:38:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from p26-lorikeet-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.67.206]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 549-33929U100000L2S50) with ESMTP id AAC28402 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:38:33 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 26 Jan 98 19:51:10 +0000 Subject: sorry for this.... Message-Id: <34CCE92D.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: RO X-Status: > If you're interested in BLITZ, why not > simply purchase BLITZv2.1, study the manual, and start out with > some small projects until you are familiar with the language I tried that when I got a bit pissed off with AMOS after spending ages on Backbone to find AMOS had all sorts of problems that wouldn't let it work on one persons machine when it was fine on another. But I found blitz to be even worse. After finally getting the editor to run without crashing (it conflicted with a commodity) I found all sorts of terrible problems, the worst being that almost everything crashed at one point or another, even the very simple examples. I like AMOS cos its quick. I can just cut out a few GFX and be away in minutes. It CAN create very good 2D games and even fairly complex ones with a bit of good programming. I get very annoyed that it isn't supported any more and therefore has the familiar problems of no aga, dodgy screens and other bugs but I hope (pray) that some extensions coming out soon will help this. I don't have the time to use anything else. Oh and when is the new GUI extension out? And is Jade dead now? -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack | Star Trek - BORG game | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 10:13:53 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 10:13:53 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14370 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10385 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:39:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10382 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA23427 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30827 invoked from network); 27 Jan 1998 11:39:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.157) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 27 Jan 1998 11:39:36 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:41:17 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: sorry for this.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id GAA10383 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 27-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Garfield jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: sorry for this...." until I was forced to knock them out: \ »-> > And is Jade dead now? »-> Good question?! JADE sounded like it would be THE extension to »-> bring AMOS up-to-date (and the one extension I might actually try)... »-> what is the status, is it dead?!? I'll see if I can dig anything up for my next PD Library report. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 09:57:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 09:57:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19709 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10390 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10387 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA27193 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31015 invoked from network); 27 Jan 1998 11:40:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.157) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 27 Jan 1998 11:40:56 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: "Lee." , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:42:36 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1892FC60E1@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Turbo+ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id GAA10388 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 27-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Lee. jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Turbo+" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> So the Turbo+ extension can do delays between 0 and a vbl eh ? »-> Where can I get the Turbo+ extension ? There are several demo versions on my homepages ready for download, from the links or directly from the FTP site Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 00:25:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 00:25:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02823 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA08005 for amos-out; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:59:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA08002 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:59:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.sosbbs.com (sosbbs.com [204.186.168.100]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA12948 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:59:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from gbenjam (204.186.168.63) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:56:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Subject: Re: sorry for this.... Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:07:41 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: >> If you're interested in BLITZ, why not simply purchase BLITZv2.1, >> study the manual, and start out with some small projects until you >> are familiar with the language... > I tried that when I got a bit pissed off with AMOS after spending ages > on Backbone to find AMOS had all sorts of problems... > But I found blitz to be even worse. After finally getting the editor > to run without crashing, I found all sorts of terrible problems... Well, like I said before, I don't have any problems with v2.1, so I really can't understand this, but I'm not going to get into that here. I wasn't trying to promote BLITZ as being superior, I was simply saying that talking about BLITZ being superior, while never actually using it, made no sense to me. > I like AMOS cos its quick. I can just cut out a few GFX and be away in > minutes. It CAN create very good 2D games and even fairly complex > ones with a bit of good programming. Yes, that is definitely it's strong point. Now, if the graphic-speed was accelerated by a factor of 2 or 3 times, structures and constants were added, along with full AGA-support, I'd say AMOS would be much closer to being the perfect development-language. Strange, how every language seems to include aspects of the "perfect" language, but none actually manage to combine all of them into a seamless package... > I don't have the time to use anything else. I understand what you're saying and AMOS does indeed allow incredibly fast program-development. However, I think by applying their experience, writing some dev-tools, etc., a programmer can realize those accelerated development-cycles in other languages as well... That's what I'm currently debating... if I decide to switch over to PC development then it will be no problem to throw together an improved EnemyMotionDesigner, AutoImageGrabber, etc. > And is Jade dead now? Good question?! JADE sounded like it would be THE extension to bring AMOS up-to-date (and the one extension I might actually try)... what is the status, is it dead?!? Take care, GARFIELD ------------------------- Current projects... SuperStarStrike98(AMIGA&IBM):15% complete(...5 days) "PAUSED" VerticalShooter(IBM): 10% complete(...2 days) "Studying" POVray-coding(IBM): 20% complete Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam ): 40% Complete From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 14:48:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 14:48:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16020 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:48:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16069 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:08:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16065 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA25265 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:08:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18500 invoked from network); 27 Jan 1998 14:08:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.157) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 27 Jan 1998 14:08:31 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Sasu Lintula , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:11:08 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: (no subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id JAA16066 Status: RO X-Status: It was on the night of 27-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Sasu jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "(no subject)" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Hi, folks! »-> Could you help me with these promblems: »-> 1) My program uses GET DISC FONTS -command to locate the font I need. »-> On A500/KS1.3 this works fine but when I run my program on A1200 AMOS »-> -requester pops up whining that it could not find device ENV:. How can »-> I get rid of it? I take it your program is booting from floppy when it does this. In the Startup-sequence of your boot disk, simply make the following line: Assign ENV: Ram: And that should solve all of your problems! If the user is booted from a workbench disk/HD this error will never pop up. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 12:34:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 12:34:55 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03706 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:34:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17225 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:12:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17207 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:12:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05309 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19336 invoked from network); 27 Jan 1998 14:11:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.157) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 27 Jan 1998 14:11:43 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:14:20 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: WWW pages moved around a bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: In testing the new WWW server I have on my system now, ive moved a mirror of my demon AMOS pages to this url: http://mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org I would be gratefull if people outside the UK, who normally find my pages a bit slow, could try this to see if things get speeded up a bit. Ive also shifted all the button and GFX links from my geocities pages, back onto the demon/us site, which should also speed up things a little. Out of all the poeple who had assigns for FTP space, only 3 people have gotten back to me about a true FTP account and free webspace. I still have plenty of space left if anyones interested. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 08:48:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 08:48:57 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08885 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10399 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10396 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from antares.utu.fi (antares.utu.fi [130.232.1.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22480 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by utu.fi with SMTP id <31477-16886>; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:40:12 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:39:57 +0200 (EET) Sender: samali@utu.fi From: Sasu Lintula To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Hi, folks! Could you help me with these promblems: 1) My program uses GET DISC FONTS -command to locate the font I need. On A500/KS1.3 this works fine but when I run my program on A1200 AMOS -requester pops up whining that it could not find device ENV:. How can I get rid of it? 2) This is actually for assembler-users, sorry (but it does have an effect on my next project. How the blitter's line drawing mode acts when you're using it on modulo-screen (for example 40 bytes wide screen with 4 bitplanes => modulo=160)? ==================================================================== SLin A1200/HD120Mb Amos1.36/Compiler1.36/Amos3d From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 05:48:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 05:48:03 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09129 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 05:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA10155 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 03:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10152 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 03:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA23389 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 03:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:39:48 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 27 Jan 98 08:45:31 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 27 Jan 98 08:45:06 GMT+0 From: "Lee." Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:41:12 GMT+0 Subject: Turbo+ Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <1892FC60E1@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: RO X-Status: So the Turbo+ extension can do delays between 0 and a vbl eh ? Where can I get the Turbo+ extension ? ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK IRC nick : EMBWBAM ________________________________________ Windows, brick, fzzzt !!!!! ________________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 00:35:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 00:35:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00696 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:35:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA23538 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23535 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:32:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA26990 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id ah2001638; 28 Jan 98 2:16 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: Jens Vang Petersen , Amos List Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:53:42 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: Trackloading in AMOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On Monday 26-Jan-98 at 14:55:47, a nutter named Jens Vang Petersen had wet pants when they typed about `Trackloading in AMOS'. >Hello.. Hi there Jens... >I'm working on a trackloader in AMOS (for a game-editor), and I need to >reserve the drive while working (just like format and DED does), so >very simple: How do I lock a drive (and marks it as 'busy' to all other >programs running) so I don't get all those blody 'NON-dos-disc-errors' >from the WB and DOpus ??? >BTW: How do I unlock it when I'm finished ? :) >Thanx in advance :) You could use the Amiga DOS command called LOCK I guess. Simply Bload it into a bank and run it from within Amos. I think this would be the easiest way. I'm also sure the JD Extension has some trackdisk commands, but not sure if it's what you need. And what about DOS calls? Have you tried some of them? I dunno who is best to offer advice on DOS calls regarding the trackdisk.dvice, but Chris Hodges is one of the most clues up guys I've ever spoken with when it comes to being able to find a solution :-) Anyone know any better....??? -- Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions 1998 (andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk) aka SKiDZ/A51 (skidz@agasinc.demon.co.uk) WWW Site coming Soon..... Roswell Gfx Adv in early development! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 20:51:18 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 20:51:18 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01595 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17140 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17124 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA01600 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15447 invoked from network); 27 Jan 1998 19:09:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@205.246.88.96) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 27 Jan 1998 19:09:25 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:11:04 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <25c1d40c.u10t12e.783d6-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: WWW pages moved around a bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id OAA17136 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 27-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Keith jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: WWW pages moved around a bit" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> You need to confire apache to send .html files as html..... I fixed this, it was a spelling mistake (using AWS atm) but was still sending HTML out OK to some people). Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 00:06:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 00:06:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05940 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21902 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21899 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from m6.sprynet.com (m6.sprynet.com [165.121.1.89]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19098 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from sprynet.com (ragriffi@ad77-217.arl.compuserve.com [199.174.172.217]) by m6.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18828 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:49:04 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Griffith Reply-To: ragriffi@sprynet.com To: AMOS mailing list Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:40:44 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Lacking; Does not play well with others. Subject: Re: Trackloading in AMOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 26-Jan-98, Jens Vang Petersen wrote: >... How do I lock a drive (and marks it as 'busy' to all other >programs running) Try something like this: A$="DF0:"+Chr$(0) Dreg(1)=Varptr(A$) Dreg(2)=1 A=Doscall(-726) >BTW: How do I unlock it when I'm finished ? :) A$="DF0:"+Chr$(0) Dreg(1)=Varptr(A$) Dreg(2)=0 A=Doscall(-726) This will only work with V36 and up (AmigaDOS 2.0+) Prior to that you had to send packets to the handler directly, and it is much more involved. -Richard From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 21:37:08 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 21:37:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03636 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA23616 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:51:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23613 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgi.inet.tele.dk (cgi.inet.tele.dk [194.182.149.95]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00285 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28118 invoked from network); 27 Jan 1998 19:50:42 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by cgi.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 27 Jan 1998 19:50:42 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.118]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA44916; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:50:41 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Alastair Murray CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:17:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <34CCE92D.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: sorry for this.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 26-Jan-98, Alastair Murray smashed the keyboard with: >I like AMOS cos its quick. I can just cut out a few GFX and be away in >minutes. It CAN create very good 2D games and even fairly complex ones >with a bit of good programming. I get very annoyed that it isn't >supported any more and therefore has the familiar problems of no aga, >dodgy screens and other bugs but I hope (pray) that some extensions >coming out soon will help this. >I don't have the time to use anything else. >Oh and when is the new GUI extension out? >And is Jade dead now? Just a note, there's actualy two great AGA-supporting extensions in beta- state right now. The new GUI, and the new OS DevKit. For those complaining about the OS DevKit being hard to use (like myselve) it's now including some very easy-to-use screens, windows and gadgets commands, one of the best features is that it's capable of fully supporting datatypes and locales in your programs (localisation is almost imposible with GUI as far as I know for now).. I can inform you that I'm currently beta-testing the OS DevKit 1.54 and from what I've been told about GUI I'd prefer OS anytime as it gives so much else that the GUI don't have. The lib file of OS is currently about 92 Kb in size and are almost bigger than the mainlib of AMOS Pro 2.0 :).. I hope noone takes this too serious but I'm a bit pissed by always hearing that the GUI is the best solution for intuition and it's the only serious looking extension for AGA users.. WRONG, GUI might still be the easist to use, but OS gives much better control for whatever you plan to make, and it dosn't matter if you want intuition or AGA screens, this will be my no. 1 choice from now on... And by the way, there's a little program that can convert a GUI build with GAD-tools-box to a pice of OS-source :)) -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Never forget the 'Queen Of Hearts', Diana, Princess Of Wales, 1961->1997 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 00:43:04 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 00:43:04 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01288 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:43:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA24219 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24216 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA00940 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21458 invoked from network); 28 Jan 1998 04:35:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.156) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 28 Jan 1998 04:35:43 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Jens Vang Petersen CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:37:21 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: sorry for this.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id XAA24217 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 27-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jens jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: sorry for this...." until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Just a note, there's actualy two great AGA-supporting extensions in beta- »-> state right now. The new GUI, and the new OS DevKit. For those complaining »-> about the OS DevKit being hard to use (like myselve) it's now including »-> some very easy-to-use screens, windows and gadgets commands, one of the »-> best features is that it's capable of fully supporting datatypes and »-> locales in your programs (localisation is almost imposible with GUI as far »-> as I know for now).. I can inform you that I'm currently beta-testing the »-> OS DevKit 1.54 and from what I've been told about GUI I'd prefer OS anytime »-> as it gives so much else that the GUI don't have. The lib file of OS is »-> currently about 92 Kb in size and are almost bigger than the mainlib of »-> AMOS Pro 2.0 :).. The GUI Extension is the only library out there tht ive seen in action, I havent seen any of the OS devkit examples yet, even though the author said he had re-written a ot of things and would send me something to play with. The GUI extension does lack a lot of stuff, indeed Locale is a major downside, but their are a lot of things that it does support, such as virtually full GFX card support (screenmodes etc.). Does OS Devkit support GFX card modes, or just AGA modes? GUI extension allows to open custom screenmodes too, for example, I could open a lowres screen of just 50x50 pixels. Frokm what I can tell from the lib, the extension now supports IFF loading and displaying of images in the library. Until pietro gets back to me with some info on the newer commands, I cant be certain of how they work properly. One thing that makes the GUI extension a pleasure to use as well as the OS stuff, is the excellent TCP commands is boasts, as no other extension ive seen can handle the net in the same way they do. For example, having timeouts so the system doesnt lock, asynchronous operations, the works. »-> I hope noone takes this too serious but I'm a bit pissed by always hearing »-> that the GUI is the best solution for intuition and it's the only serious »-> looking extension for AGA users.. WRONG, GUI might still be the easist to »-> use, but OS gives much better control for whatever you plan to make, and »-> it dosn't matter if you want intuition or AGA screens, this will be my »-> no. 1 choice from now on... And by the way, there's a little program that »-> can convert a GUI build with GAD-tools-box to a pice of OS-source :)) Im not taking it too serious, but the question remains with the user. "Why should I pay X amount for this extension, when that extension does just the same". What does the OS DEvkit have that the GUI extension doesnt? Im not getting at anyone here, just asking a simple question. Ive been waiting for some stuff on the new OS Devkit for a while so I can explain a bit about its newer functions in an MPD report. Id also like to try a few speed comparisons on the two extensions. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 20:40:38 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 20:40:38 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13541 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22138 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22133 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:25:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.isdnet.net (mail2.hol.fr [194.149.160.36]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07886 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hol.fr (Rvincent@orleans-9.hol.fr [195.154.41.201]) by mail2.isdnet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA05884 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:24:59 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9gis?= VINCENT To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:18:03 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1892FC60E1@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Help me! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hello everyone! I've made a few programs for kids, with Amos of course. They have always been working correctly, until last week. I installed them on my brand new A1200 (second hand actually) with Blizzard 1200 (4MO) and seagate HD (210 mo). Sometimes they work, sometimes they crash. And I can't find the reason! When they crash, you still have the screen, but nothing moves. The left Amiga - A does not work (Amos to back). It's the first time I have this problem. The Amos Pro interpreter I installed on the machine also crashes! The programs work perfectly well on my other 1200+ Blizzard 1240, as well as it used to work on my previous Blizzard 1230. What's happening? Help needed! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 22:49:19 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Jan 27 22:49:19 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01072 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25449 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25446 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.201.27.131] ([208.201.27.131]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA02806 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.comsoltx.com by [208.201.27.131] via smtpd (for pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) with SMTP; 27 Jan 1998 20:29:26 UT Received: by mail.comsoltx.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:24:08 -0600 Message-ID: From: Ken Axsom To: "'sniper@technet2000.com.au'" Cc: "'amos-list@access.digex.net'" Subject: RE: Need programmer for RPG Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:24:07 -0600 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="---- =_NextPart_001_01BD2B2F.3AD644A0" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_001_01BD2B2F.3AD644A0 Content-Type: text/plain Sniper, That's not an RPG. That's a graphic adventure. I'm working on that kind of editor. But, the Interface will be the 'old-school' typing in the verb + noun. I'm not to fond of these 'dumbed-down' interfaces of today. There's not much thought required when everything is spelled out for ya. It's more Kings Quest-like rather than Monkey Island. I can't remember, but I think I might've sent you an iff pic of one of my screens way back when in '97. I wouldn't mind getting the support of you & your connections, but the game would have to be what I have in mind. I have an original storyline sketched out. As far as the editor goes, I can take any iff pic and turn it into an active game screen: Multiple background & foreground objects of varying sizes: rocks, trees, shrubs, buildings, etc, a joystick controlled character that walks around the objects, & collision detection. Screens that have water: multiple walking depths, (haven't completed the swimming animations or code yet). Oh..just 1 screen specification: 32-colors, 320x200, can't use the last 10 color registers (22-31), so your actually lookin at a 22 color screen, which doesn't look too shabby. You can send me a full 32-colr screen, Digi-View 4.0 can re-draw the screen with user- defined number of colors. Your call, dude. Thanks, Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: Jamie Bentley [SMTP:sniper@technet2000.com.au] > Sent: Friday, January 18, 1991 11:49 PM > To: AMOS HELP > Subject: Need programmer for RPG > > Hello all, once again. > > Qwak 2 will soon be in the hands of Alastair Murrary to program, and > while he's programming that, I'm buying a few copyrights on the name > for a game which has yet to be disclosed :) > > Anyway, it will be a Monkey Island type game, with the 12 disks worth > of graphics and story lining etc, but I want an editor for the game, > but it can't be distributed to anybody else, only the finished > compiled product (the end game). > > While the actual editor must remain in only the programmer and my > hands, since releasing it would be a bit of pain, as it would simply > erase the amount of money that I would make. > > It would need to be able to play protracker tunes, work in 64 EHB > 320x256 (56 pixels for the playing menu), and have all those little > touchesthat Monkey Island has, like when you select something, it > recomends what to do (if you right click it will do it... IE: If you > move the pointer over a door and click the right mouse button, it will > try open it). > > I would also need to be able to create "ground areas" where the > player can and can't walk, mulitple layers of bobs so they can walk > behind objects, and a good scripting system. > > The Programmer will get a standard 25% of the profits made, since me > and a small team are writing the plot, while I'm doing the graphics > and the music. > > Any questions? > > Jamie Bentley ------ =_NextPart_001_01BD2B2F.3AD644A0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sniper,
    That's not an = RPG.  That's a graphic adventure.
I'm working on that kind of = editor.  But, the Interface will be the
'old-school'  typing in the = verb + noun.  I'm not to fond of
these 'dumbed-down' interfaces of = today.  There's not
much thought required when = everything is spelled out for ya.
It's more Kings Quest-like rather = than Monkey Island.
    I can't = remember, but I think I might've sent you an iff pic
of one of my screens way back when = in '97.  I wouldn't mind
getting the support of you & = your connections, but the game
would have to be what I have in = mind.  I have an original storyline
sketched out.  As far as the = editor goes, I can take any iff pic
and turn it into an active game = screen:  Multiple background &
foreground objects of varying = sizes: rocks, trees, shrubs, buildings, etc,
a joystick controlled character = that walks around the objects, &
collision detection. Screens that = have water: multiple walking depths,
(haven't completed the swimming = animations or code yet).
Oh..just 1 screen specification: = 32-colors, 320x200, can't use
the last 10 color registers = (22-31), so your actually lookin at a
22 color screen, which doesn't = look too shabby.  You can send me
a full 32-colr screen, Digi-View = 4.0 can re-draw the screen with user-
defined number of colors. Your = call, dude.
Thanks,
Ken

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Jamie Bentley = [SMTP:sniper@technet2000.com.au]
    Sent:   Friday, January 18, 1991 11:49 PM
    To:     AMOS HELP
    Subject:       = Need programmer for RPG

     Hello all, = once again.

     Qwak 2 will = soon be in the hands of Alastair Murrary to program, and while he's = programming that, I'm buying a few copyrights on the name for a game = which has yet to be disclosed :)


     Anyway, it = will be a Monkey Island type game, with the 12 disks worth of graphics = and story lining etc, but I want an editor for the game, but it can't = be distributed to anybody else, only the finished compiled product (the = end game).


     While the = actual editor must remain in only the programmer and my hands, since = releasing it would be a bit of pain, as it would simply erase the = amount of money that I would make.


     It would need = to be able to play protracker tunes, work in 64 EHB 320x256 (56 pixels = for the playing menu), and have all those little touchesthat Monkey = Island has, like when you select something, it recomends what to do (if = you right click it will do it... IE: If you move the pointer over a = door and click the right mouse button, it will try open it).


     I  would = also need to be able to create "ground areas" where the = player can and can't walk, mulitple layers of bobs so they can  = walk behind objects, and a good scripting system.


     The Programmer = will get a standard 25% of the profits made, since me and a small team = are writing the plot, while I'm doing the graphics and the  = music.


     Any = questions?

     Jamie = Bentley

------ =_NextPart_001_01BD2B2F.3AD644A0-- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 00:00:36 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 00:00:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16577 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA23948 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23945 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14243 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15948; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:02:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA15113; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:00:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA12049; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:59:59 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:59:58 -0600 (CST) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Sasu Lintula cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Sasu, There should be a way to specify exactly the directory you want to get the fonts from this hopefully would side step the whole issue. Thanks, Scott Matott sXe From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 05:32:16 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 05:32:16 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21121 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27317 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27314 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:34:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from antares.utu.fi (antares.utu.fi [130.232.1.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA19604 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:34:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by utu.fi with SMTP id <31404-27049>; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:33:19 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:33:09 +0200 (EET) Sender: samali@utu.fi From: Sasu Lintula To: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: > Sasu, > There should be a way to specify exactly the directory you want to > get the fonts from this hopefully would side step the whole issue. > > Thanks, > Scott Matott sXe > That's a one solution. SLin From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 01:43:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 01:43:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24196 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA24249 for amos-out; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24246 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from saturn.vision.net.au (saturn.vision.net.au [203.17.23.11]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00727 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ender.vision.net.au (p02.hbt-ts.vision.net.au [203.17.245.34]) by saturn.vision.net.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10603 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:51:07 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199801280451.PAA10603@saturn.vision.net.au> From: "James Brown (Ender/Gcc)" Organization: GCC Int, Tasmania To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:50:31 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Trackloading in AMOS Reply-to: ender@vision.net.au X-Confirm-Reading-To: ender@vision.net.au X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: Status: O X-Status: > On 26-Jan-98, Jens Vang Petersen wrote: > > >... How do I lock a drive (and marks it as 'busy' to all other > >programs running) > Try something like this: > .... > >BTW: How do I unlock it when I'm finished ? :) > .... > This will only work with V36 and up (AmigaDOS 2.0+) > Prior to that you had to send packets to the handler > directly, and it is much more involved. > > -Richard > A few extentions also have commands for locking, reading and writing to the drive that will work with OS 1.2 and 1.3 as well. I think either Easylife or Turbo extentions had it. I cant remember which... Regards, James Brown - Ender/Gcc - Ender@vision.net.au -- Team *AMOS*, IAPA, Http://Endergcc.home.ml.org - Fido: 3:670/213.42 -- GCC International Currently Programming: CBATNAM, Yeerk Pool 7 and Extreme Doom ------------------------------------------------------------- "No ma'am. We at the FBI don't have a sense of humor that we're aware of." -- Kay, Men In Black From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 01:25:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 01:25:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13624 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:25:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA24274 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:29:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24271 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:29:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from saturn.vision.net.au (saturn.vision.net.au [203.17.23.11]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15418 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ender.vision.net.au (p02.hbt-ts.vision.net.au [203.17.245.34]) by saturn.vision.net.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14905 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:29:45 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199801280529.QAA14905@saturn.vision.net.au> From: "James Brown (Ender/Gcc)" Organization: GCC Int, Tasmania To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:29:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sorry for this.... Reply-to: ender@vision.net.au X-Confirm-Reading-To: ender@vision.net.au X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: Status: O X-Status: Hello. -- Whole message cut :-) -- I only wish there was a GUI ext. that would work with kickstart 1.3! I know that most people have kick 2 or even 3, but it seems that those (like me) who didnt bother upgrading before Commodore went out are having a hell of a time finding roms at a reasonable price! Regards, James Brown - Ender/Gcc - Ender@vision.net.au -- Team *AMOS*, IAPA, Http://Endergcc.home.ml.org - Fido: 3:670/213.42 -- GCC International Currently Programming: CBATNAM, Yeerk Pool 7 and Extreme Doom ------------------------------------------------------------- "No ma'am. We at the FBI don't have a sense of humor that we're aware of." -- Kay, Men In Black From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 19:27:23 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 19:27:23 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04884 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23645 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23638 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:03:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24063 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126071.agonet.it [195.32.126.71]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA03588; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:58:54 +0100 From: Pietro Ghizzoni Reply-To: Pietro Ghizzoni To: Jens Vang Petersen , Alastair Murray , Amos-List Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:56:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Dairymen Soft Subject: Re: sorry for this.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 27-Gen-98, Jens Vang Petersen wrote: Re: sorry for this.... The GUI Extension is the result of years of frustrations using the bugged intuition extension and waiting the official intuition support by F. Lionet My frustrations are the frustrations of all the Amos users: - no AGA support - no intuition - no standard GUI - my programs eat upto 80% of the CPU power! - no multitasking And so i've created a extension that solve all this problem, and offers a easy way to handle everything, using simple/fast ready made commands for all the boring/repetative intuition operations like open windows, handle gadgets, events and so on. The OS Dev Kit does the same things, but in a different way. You must handle everything manually... IMHO it isn't a good idea, expecially for GUI/intuition based operations. >Just a note, there's actualy two great AGA-supporting extensions in beta- >state right now. The new GUI, and the new OS DevKit. For those complaining >about the OS DevKit being hard to use (like myselve) it's now including >some very easy-to-use screens, windows and gadgets commands, one of the Very well, a good news, but there are some considerations to do: - The OS needs some commands to define gadgets, and open the window. When you'll compile the program, the executable size will be bigger than the GUI ext. equivalent... and also the GUI will be faster due to the use of GUI banks, wich old all the infos in a "precalculated" way to speedup operations. - Define your gadgets directly in Amos may be usefull if you must do some little changes in your GUI... but in the 90% of the cases is a disadvantage! Create a interface without a WYSIWYG editor is a frustation! (see the AMOS interface language for example) for this reason exists the GadToolsBox, the MUI Builder and the other ones. >best features is that it's capable of fully supporting datatypes and >locales in your programs (localisation is almost imposible with GUI as far >as I know for now) The upcoming version 1.7 doesn't fully support localisation... it will be ready in the v1.71 but with some extras ;) i.e. the user can translate in real-time your GUI without waiting that someone release the catalogs needed. >I hope noone takes this too serious but I'm a bit pissed by always hearing >that the GUI is the best solution for intuition and it's the only serious >looking extension for AGA users.. WRONG, GUI might still be the easist to >use, but OS gives much better control for whatever you plan to make, and much better control????? Let me an example...... Using the Gui Wait command only, you are able to control a unlimited number of windows, the Arexx port of your program and 32 internet connections! Try to do the same with the OS Dev Kit and see how complex (and big) your program will be thanks to the 'better control' Also consider the GUI Ext. automatic hotkeys support and gadget-links. In the v1.7 there is also a on-line help like MUI! >no. 1 choice from now on... And by the way, there's a little program that >can convert a GUI build with GAD-tools-box to a pice of OS-source :)) Not very usefull... because: when you've created your GUI using the Gadtoolsbox, you must convert the GUI into AMOS-OS code, and merge it into your program. OK... but if in the future you must modify the GUI you shall convert the new GUI into OS commands, delete the old ones from your AMOS program, and merge the new ones. Using the GUI banks and running the GUI Converter as accessory, you can upgrade your GUI automatically, without modify your source code. I'm sorry for the big late... but now i'm busy with another great project! In the *near* future you'll agree with me that there is a very good reason!! Anyway if you want, you can mix the GUI Extension and the OS Dev Kit, and obtain the best of the 2 worlds! :) -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | Team AMIGA \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Professional Team Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ!! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 16:58:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 16:58:33 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18700 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19906 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19903 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:04:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from star.flashnet.it (star.flashnet.it [194.247.160.2]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03391 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip008.pool-06.flashnet.it (Berionne@ip008.pool-06.flashnet.it [194.247.161.72]) by star.flashnet.it (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA19972 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:04:02 +0100 Date: 27 Jan 98 19:32:25 +0100 From: "Michele Berionne" Subject: Re: Fonts... To: "Sasu Lintula" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <790.331T1258T11724279@flashnet.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: O X-Status: Hi there! > 1) My program uses GET DISC FONTS -command to locate the font I need. > On A500/KS1.3 this works fine but when I run my program on A1200 AMOS > -requester pops up whining that it could not find device ENV:. How can > I get rid of it? I don't know exactly your problem, but avoid GET DISC FONT command. If you have a hd, with probably a *lot* of fonts, it's VERY sloooowwww. Try AMCAF extension (you can find a demo version on Aminet): it has some commands to handle fonts in a very easy and fast way! Bye berionne@flashnet.it >>Flagger<< +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 08:48:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 08:48:43 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05765 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA01548 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA01545 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA12273 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2997 invoked from network); 28 Jan 1998 12:28:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.136) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 28 Jan 1998 12:28:48 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:31:24 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: HELP: Partition gone wonky!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: I was fixing a partition last night that was a bit wonky, and Quarterback tools kinda broke it, so I copied everything off it and tried to format it. I was gettinh "Disk in DH4 is write protected" and no matter what I do, I cant get rid of it. Quarterback is lame and wont give it back. Someone please help me! BTW the ftp site and WWW stuff shouldnt be affected Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 06:18:42 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 06:18:42 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21832 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 06:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27305 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:26:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27302 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from antares.utu.fi (antares.utu.fi [130.232.1.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04942 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by utu.fi with SMTP id <31348-27047>; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:26:09 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:25:59 +0200 (EET) Sender: samali@utu.fi From: Sasu Lintula To: Mush cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: > > I take it your program is booting from floppy when it does this. In the > Startup-sequence of your boot disk, simply make the following line: > > Assign ENV: Ram: > > And that should solve all of your problems! If the user is booted from a > workbench disk/HD this error will never pop up. > > Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett Ah yessss, that's it! By the way, are there volunteers to test my new game? SLin From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 09:40:11 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 09:40:11 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16490 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01697 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:13:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01694 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:13:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29287 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from p24-shoveler-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.73.84]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 549-33929U100000L2S50) with ESMTP id AAA4555 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:13:24 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 28 Jan 98 12:57:32 +0000 Subject: Apollo 060 Message-Id: <34CF2B3B.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: RO X-Status: Does anyone know of any AMOS problems related to 060's? I'm getting reports of problems with some of my programs with them. Thanks, -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack | Star Trek - BORG game | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 13:08:58 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 13:08:58 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01549 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06567 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06564 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from much-magic.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de (much-magic.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.67.251]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15310 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (citrone@localhost) by much-magic.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06206; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:29:51 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:29:50 +0100 (MET) From: Birol Atasoy To: Sasu Lintula cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Sasu Lintula wrote: > Hi, folks! > Could you help me with these promblems: > > 1) My program uses GET DISC FONTS -command to locate the font I need. > On A500/KS1.3 this works fine but when I run my program on A1200 AMOS > -requester pops up whining that it could not find device ENV:. How can > I get rid of it? > If you dont want the requester you can use request off to disabling annoying requesters! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 14:06:34 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 14:06:34 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02386 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14492 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:39:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14489 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14735 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:39:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2011986; 28 Jan 98 15:46 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0035b; Wed, 28 Jan 98 15:47:28 GMT Date: Wed, 28 Jan 98 15:47:28 GMT Message-Id: <9801281547.AA0035a@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <25c3140d.u10t12e.a395b-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <34CF2B3B.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> (from "Alastair Murray" ) (at 28 Jan 98 12:57:32 +0000) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Apollo 060 Status: O X-Status: To the one known as Alastair, > Does anyone know of any AMOS problems related to 060's? Nope. > I'm getting reports of problems with some of my programs with them. Hmm, no probs with my 060 anyway, not with amos. Runs quicker though.. _ _ _ _ _ _ | Peterborough England. All the web |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | resources in one place - |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | | http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk/peterborough/ --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk Member: IAPA & Team *AMOS* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 18:43:29 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 18:43:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10317 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:43:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20833 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20830 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgi.inet.tele.dk (cgi.inet.tele.dk [194.182.149.95]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03321 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 33582 invoked from network); 28 Jan 1998 19:16:21 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by cgi.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 28 Jan 1998 19:16:21 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.23]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA44016; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:16:18 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Mush CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:17:09 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: HELP: Partition gone wonky!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 28-Jan-98, Mush smashed the keyboard with: >I was fixing a partition last night that was a bit wonky, and Quarterback >tools kinda broke it, so I copied everything off it and tried to format it. I >was gettinh "Disk in DH4 is write protected" and no matter what I do, I cant >get rid of it. Quarterback is lame and wont give it back. Someone please help >me! What file-system are you running ??.. Have you tried to make a 'low-level-format' from HD-Tools-box ??.. Is it a SCSI or FAT/AT drive ??.. -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- fortune: No such file or directory -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 18:13:39 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 18:13:39 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03795 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:13:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20982 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20979 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgi.inet.tele.dk (cgi.inet.tele.dk [194.182.149.95]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22040 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10780 invoked from network); 28 Jan 1998 19:17:40 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by cgi.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 28 Jan 1998 19:17:40 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.23]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA36346; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:17:39 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Sasu Lintula CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:18:29 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: (no subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 28-Jan-98, Sasu Lintula smashed the keyboard with: >Ah yessss, that's it! >By the way, are there volunteers to test my new game? What kind of game is it (Action/RPG/... ??) -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- fortune: No such file or directory -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 19:20:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 19:20:05 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02220 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:20:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21483 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21480 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04154 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5505 invoked from network); 28 Jan 1998 19:23:43 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 28 Jan 1998 19:23:43 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.23]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA33932; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:23:42 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Alastair Murray CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:24:31 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <34CF2B3B.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Apollo 060 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 28-Jan-98, Alastair Murray smashed the keyboard with: >Does anyone know of any AMOS problems related to 060's? >I'm getting reports of problems with some of my programs with them. I don't know if ya' know this, but: On blizz1230/50 with fpu, AMOS has often crashes. I used several days to try and find the bug, so that I could avoid it.. Problem is: -A fast moving loop with an 'inkey$' inside, something like: Do w$=Inkey$ if..... else if... else if... endif Loop (As long as the user don't push a key the loop keeps running around) After some time the loop begins to be unstable (strange chars might be written, some lines appears on WB) and the Amiga Crashes.. This takes around 3 seconds to happen.. The solution is to put a 'Multi Wait' into the loop, this also has the advantage of giving some CPU-power to other programs while yours is awaiting the user to do something. I expect a similar fix would be to put 'wait vbl' inside the loop, but I've never tried.. -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- fortune: No such file or directory -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 02:39:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 02:39:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16471 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA11491 for amos-out; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:47:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA11488 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA20896 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16820 invoked from network); 29 Jan 1998 05:46:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.133) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 29 Jan 1998 05:46:38 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:49:12 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <34CFCA51.F1D@mail.ozemail.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Strings and Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id AAA11489 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 29-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Strings and Things" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Hello all, »-> As I`m developing a program sometimes I want to go to the Direct mode »-> and check the contents of strings. But lately I`ve been getting strange »-> results. »-> If I want to look at the contents of F$(x) and I look at say F$(1) it »-> displays the correct string but if I try F$(12) or something higher I »-> get the actual AMOS code being printed on the screen with control chars »-> doing strange things like wiping text and redrawing etc. Ive had this problem a lot. I found a couple of ways to prevent it was to give it a rather high SET BUFFER command at the top (to give you more variable space than actualy needed) plus I checked my code and removed anything that would poke and peek around any variables with VARPTR. After some messing, it just disappeared as fast as it came, hehe. I also used to get it with particulay large strings. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 22:32:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 22:32:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21325 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01990 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01987 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:38:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13342 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19093 invoked by alias); 28 Jan 1998 23:38:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 19069 invoked from network); 28 Jan 1998 23:38:37 -0000 Received: from 1cust231.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.231) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 28 Jan 1998 23:38:37 -0000 Message-ID: <004501bd2c45$e3d69b60$e710fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Lee." Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: Turbo+ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:38:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. > So the Turbo+ extension can do delays between 0 and a vbl eh ? Ya.. handy, but I have yet to use it myself. > Where can I get the Turbo+ extension ? Hm.. well, as Mush offered (the demos on his website), there are no other places that I can think of (and no "Official" website either). I have a copy of it (with manual, docs, printed matter, and the disks.. from Chris Evans, who has since left the List). I might be able to send a copy of this package to you for a small fee (for postage, etc.). Contact me for more. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 21:19:10 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 21:19:10 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11156 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02744 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02741 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03992 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:15:12 -0500 (EST) From: geosync@mail.ozemail.com.au Received: from archie (per2-48.space.net.au [203.38.11.206]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA25535 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:15:08 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34CFCA51.F1D@mail.ozemail.com.au> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:16:17 +0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Strings and Things Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello all, As I`m developing a program sometimes I want to go to the Direct mode and check the contents of strings. But lately I`ve been getting strange results. If I want to look at the contents of F$(x) and I look at say F$(1) it displays the correct string but if I try F$(12) or something higher I get the actual AMOS code being printed on the screen with control chars doing strange things like wiping text and redrawing etc. Anyone had this problem? Andy H. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 22:14:56 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 22:14:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25427 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02773 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02770 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA01145 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:18:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28308 invoked by alias); 29 Jan 1998 00:18:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 28300 invoked from network); 29 Jan 1998 00:18:06 -0000 Received: from 1cust231.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.231) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 1998 00:18:06 -0000 Message-ID: <008401bd2c4b$67a3cf80$e710fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: General happenings. Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:18:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Greetings. Well, as few may have noticed, I've been off the List for the past couple of days (no mailing or computer, etc.) as I've been fighting off some flu-like symptoms. I'm over most of it now, so I'm off to reply to some mail. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 23:24:07 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 23:24:07 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29954 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04709 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04706 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11646 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2204 invoked by alias); 29 Jan 1998 00:37:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 2188 invoked from network); 29 Jan 1998 00:37:09 -0000 Received: from 1cust231.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.231) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 1998 00:37:09 -0000 Message-ID: <00b101bd2c4e$1125c0c0$e710fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Jamie Bentley" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: 3D polygon game project.. Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:37:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Hiho. heh, I read up on this topic, all the messages, flames and things. Sounds cool, but let me start by asking: "Have you ever DONE -ANYTHING- (code OR engine) like this?!" It sounds like you're wanting to port (do up) a Quake type game! hehe, no harm, it's being done by some people at ClickBoom, BUT, just a reminder: It takes QUITE a bit of work (if you don't have any extra routines or docs, EVEN IN AMOS!). I'd love to help (there are several knowledgeable people on the List on the subject and coding of 3D games, myself to name one, Johnny Bintz, Mush, and a couple others), but I'm still busy with CBATNAM and my own (AMOS) 3D Doom'er (Cafe Engine) and upcoming game, meaning I may not be able to help with coding, but maybe with some docs or some example source (I've got PLENTY of BSP sorters, renderers, and the like, ALL in C! And of course you can look around on Aminet for docs and such). I also have several cool demos of some good C and ASM coded 3D Doom and Quake type engines (there's one that runs GREAT on an ECS '030, uses c2p, BSP, and lots of cool stuff, but its only a demo right now, no source). Anyhow, many flames (and good luck). If you need any help or docs, mail me and I'll see what I can dig up (ask Mush too if you haven't already). :) Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 22:20:48 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Jan 28 22:20:48 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17261 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA09470 for amos-out; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09467 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:56:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12552 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:56:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19088 invoked by alias); 29 Jan 1998 01:56:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19073 invoked from network); 29 Jan 1998 01:56:42 -0000 Received: from 1cust21.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (208.254.16.21) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 1998 01:56:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bd2c59$2e0f2d60$1510fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Andrew Kellett" Cc: "Amos Mail Post" Subject: Re: FTP and webspace Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:46:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Howdy, howdy, hiho. > For those people who have FTP coounts with me (ones with a real login) > and would like to sample some web space, please get in touch with me. Methinks I'd like to take some webspace, to help you test out your server (if you still want), and for myself to try out with (and without) my FTP account, and to see how they go together with my existing website. I'll mail (or chat with) you if you need any account info or specifics. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 03:11:13 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 03:11:12 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA12511 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA11659 for amos-out; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11656 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA05912 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA29391; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:01:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:01:43 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Frontier Elite II To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello: AmosListers I was looking trough my copy of Frontier Elite II CD32, and found two devices the Multi-Targeter, and the Target Enhancer. Has any one got to the point where these devices come in? If so is it rank, or date , or Elite status that brings up this point? Have any of you ASM guys thought of making a better trainer? IF so hears a couple of things I would like. 1 asteroids on for all ships. 2 turret mounts correctly positioned. (so you don't blow up your ship) 3 fuel scoop mounts for all ships. (so the cargo scoop will work) 4 jump range only limited bye fuel. (so a 10 ly ship can jump 20 lys in 2 weeks, or 30 lys in 3, and so on this needs to also apply to pursuers) 5 if possible when you call for help some one will respond other then the pirates. 6 if the above is time based a date accelerator. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 02:13:41 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 02:13:41 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29917 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 02:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA04726 for amos-out; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04723 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17573 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port24.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.124]) by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA25900; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:23:18 +1000 From: Jamie Bentley Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au To: Eric Hyland , AMOS HELP Date: Wed, 30 Jan 1991 16:22:59 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: sniper productions Subject: Re: Frontier Elite II MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id BAA04724 Status: O X-Status: Hello Eric, Have you ever looked at the executable file in PPMORE, or NZ, it is the EASIEST thing to hack in the world, you should see mine :) Hack it yourself, just change some coords of the ship (for the turrets), and rename the ships so a eagle is turned into a pantha or whatever. JB From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 07:28:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 07:28:51 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07954 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA12881 for amos-out; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA12878 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from antares.utu.fi (antares.utu.fi [130.232.1.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17998 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by utu.fi with SMTP id <31442-14644>; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:19:28 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:19:28 +0200 (EET) Sender: samali@utu.fi From: Sasu Lintula To: Jens Vang Petersen cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Jens Vang Petersen wrote: > On 28-Jan-98, Sasu Lintula smashed the keyboard with: > > >Ah yessss, that's it! > >By the way, are there volunteers to test my new game? > > What kind of game is it (Action/RPG/... ??) > -- > Happy greetings, Yours.. > __________________________________________________________________________ > /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN > / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk > /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ > -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- > -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > fortune: No such file or directory > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > No action, sorry. It's a thinking game. I'll send it to you if you want. SLin From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 19:32:51 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 19:32:51 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14687 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06846 for amos-out; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06843 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:06:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15393 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from p31-goshawk-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.63.31]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 549-33929U100000L2S50) with ESMTP id AAA16040 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:06:05 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 29 Jan 98 13:25:16 +0000 Subject: Re: Apollo 060 Message-Id: <34D0833C.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: RO X-Status: > On blizz1230/50 with fpu, AMOS has often crashes. I used several days to > try and find the bug, so that I could avoid it.. > > Problem is: > -A fast moving loop with an 'inkey$' inside, something like: > Do > w$=Inkey$ > if..... > else if... > else if... > endif > Loop > (As long as the user don't push a key the loop keeps running around) > After some time the loop begins to be unstable (strange chars might be > written, some lines appears on WB) and the Amiga Crashes.. This takes > around 3 seconds to happen.. > > The solution is to put a 'Multi Wait' into the loop, this also has the > advantage of giving some CPU-power to other programs while yours is > awaiting the user to do something. I expect a similar fix would be to > put 'wait vbl' inside the loop, but I've never tried.. ahhhh. Well actually, I'm using a blizz1230/50 with fpu with no problems but as I've said before alot of people have troubles running some of my programs. That sounds like it may help. I'll give it a go. -Murray __________________________________________________________________________ > /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN > / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk > /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ > -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- > -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > fortune: No such file or directory > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack | Star Trek - BORG game | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 17:59:49 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 17:59:49 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20644 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29749 for amos-out; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29746 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk ([194.182.148.151]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01655 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29064 invoked from network); 29 Jan 1998 15:52:52 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 29 Jan 1998 15:52:52 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.43]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAC46110 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:52:49 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:31:45 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: OS DevKit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello.. First of all I'd like to send a little 'I'm sorry' to Pietro Ghizzoni (the author of GUI) I had no intension of insulting you or your work, and I'm very sorry of you felt that way.. After my little note on OS DevKit as an alternative to GUI and JADE, I've gotten many mails from people not knowing what this extension is, or some who's not aware of the new, and easier, commands. Loads of questions on what the extension realy is. Apparently Brice (the author) is not on this list, or is to busy to advertise his work, so as a Beta-tester I'm writing this to inform about what this extension is, and what it supports.. -- Regarding: OS DevKit V1.54 (beta-test-release) Extension size: 93444 bytes.. Slot: 20. Author: Brice Fromentin General notes: The extensions supports a wide range of systemfunctions, many of the areas is covered by 2 different sets of commands, one (original) that is on machine-level, and one on user-level. The first requiring quite complex setups, but it gives complete control of everything you'd like to use. The second is much like the regular AMOS system with simple and easy-going commands. The two levels of commands can be mixed most of the way to give a maximum of control and power with the least effort... amigaguide.library - Display amigaguide files on a public screen.. asl.library - File/Screen-type/Font requesters.. datatype.library - Full datatype support including pictures, samples and animations.. dos.library - Doslocks - Notification - File loadning/saving - System clock support - Starting external programs exec.library - Version commands (for libs/system/cpu/fpu) - Nodes - Memory - MsgPorts - Tasks gadtools.library - Full gadgets support, easy to customize to requrements. (Programing of gadgets is done by giving cords,sizes and ID-number and some data to stuff inside like arrays, texts, images, etc..) - Full pull-down-menu support graphics.library - All regular drawing operations - The special (difficult and powerfull) filling system - Blitter and chopper support - Sprites - Fonts - RTG support for graphic-cards.. icon.library - Full tool-types support.. - Opens for retriving images from Icons.. intuition.library - Intuition screens and windows.. - Newscreen/Newwnd structures support.. - AMOS like screen open/close availeble.. - Full AGA support (including HAM8 screens).. - Custom/Public screen support.. - Use ANY public screen for requesters and windows.. - Palette can be set using 4bit, 8bit or 32bit notification.. locale.library - Full support for locale.library.. lowlevel.library - Joystick/gamepad/mouse support.. wb.library - App itims support (icons, windows and menus) -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 20:19:42 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 20:19:41 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10733 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:19:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14218 for amos-out; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14206 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21831 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:13:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net id ac2010361; 30 Jan 98 18:39 GMT From: Andy Gibson To: "Robert W. Benjamin" , Amos List Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:23:06 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: AGAS Productions Subject: Re: Dumb is as Dumb does... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On Wednesday 28-Jan-98 at 07:31:13, a nutter named Robert W. Benjamin had wet pants when they typed about `Re: Dumb is as Dumb does...'. >Screw you ass hole... >Robert Eh? What was that in aid of? Can't you handle critisism? I was only trying to support Jamie and his concepts, so why on earth you should sent me an email with that kinda reply is beyond me! Did anyone else on this list get a nasty reply from Robert? There was no smiley, so I guess he's being serious!!! Oh well, I won't lower myself to his standards. If he wants to react like that, I think he'd be better of moving to another list. I don't have time for this kinda crap and I guess nobody else on this list would either! Robert, please don't waste my time with a reply like that. It's not the kinda thing I wanna see.... To put everyone else on this list in the picture....I have left the rest of Robert's email in tact, sorry to quote it all again, but theen you'll see why I am a bit miffed as to why he sent me a nasty reply! Grrr.... >---------- >> On Monday 26-Jan-98 at 04:03:40, a nutter named Robert W. Benjamin >> had wet pants when they typed about `Dumb is as Dumb does...'. >> >Jamie >> >> >Take you stupid coding project, and shove it up your ass.. >> >Your lazy, a whiner, and evidently a very poor coder.... >> >> >Robert Benjamin >> >> Poor Jamie is getting a very hard time on this listing! Please don't >> go upsetting him. After all, he is one of the few (like us) who is >> trying to help keep the Amiga afloat with new software releases... >> >> I do agree that if he wants Blitz coders, then he should try the Blitz >> mailing list, but at least he is giving us lot the chance first. >> >> Now, thaat can only be a good thing in my book. >> >> And maybe Jamie isn't a coder at all? He seems more like a project >> manager type peep! Why should he be a coder anyway? If he has the >> ideas, contacts and motivation to get things off the ground, then I >> say good luck to him. >> >> For those who don't like his mails, simply don't read 'em! >> >> Do we really need to upset each other on this list in the way Robert >> has probably done above? >> >> Robert? If you are not interested in Jamie's projects, just ignore >> 'em. I would not be able to program anything outside Amos (I've yet to >> try Blitz) and therefore I have not bothered to mail Jamie to say I >> wanna be part of his project. That way, Jamie knows that I have no >> interest in doing much for him (at present). >> >> Is it just me, or does everyone else on this list think Jamie is >> trying his best to get some good commercial games released? What's >> more, some even coded in Amos too! >> >> C'mon, give the guy a break. He's probably new to this line of work. >> Try and give him some pointers, don't just flog him off with lines >> such as.... >> >> `WHAT? Only 10% royalties!!!' etc. >> >> Try something a bit like.... >> >> `Well Jamie, I don't think you'll get much support for those >> royalties. Up the stakes a bit and you might get a response...' >> >> This list is supposed to be here to help each other, is it not? >> >> Let's have a great 1998 and support our fellow list mates. The Amiga >> needs as many new titles as it can get just now. We cannot deny it >> this, can we? >> >> Flame me for sticking up for Jamie if ya wish. I don't care. I just >> feel that this has went a bit over the top. Sorry Robert for picking >> on you to use for this reply, but I bet you have just lost yourself >> the chance to work on any future projects which Jamie dreams up :( >> >> (Who'll be kickin' themselves if Jamie's games are massive selling >> productions?) >> >> As for Jamie, good luck and stick at it. Most of the guys on this list >> are very busy with their own projects. But you never know...some of >> them may have some contacts who could point you in the right >> direction... -- Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions 1998 (andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk) aka SKiDZ/A51 (skidz@agasinc.demon.co.uk) WWW Site coming Soon..... Roswell Gfx Adv in early development! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 20:59:01 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Jan 29 20:59:01 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04870 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA16188 for amos-out; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16178 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04660 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:50:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20623 invoked from network); 29 Jan 1998 21:28:16 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 29 Jan 1998 21:28:16 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.47]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA43904 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:28:15 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:04:23 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Looooooooong Samples MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: Hello.. A request to all of you excelent sound-extension-people. Can any of you write a sample-replayer into your extension (or even a simple AMOS- procedure) that can handle long raw samples (+100.000 bytes) the only way I can find to replay those bloddy things is to call an external player like Play16.. Gah... -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 17:50:35 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 17:50:35 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17284 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04934 for amos-out; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:06:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04929 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:06:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09722 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:06:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24462 invoked from network); 30 Jan 1998 17:07:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@205.246.88.106) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 30 Jan 1998 17:07:11 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Jens Vang Petersen , Sasu Lintula CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:08:41 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Looooooooong Samples MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id MAA04932 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 30-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jens jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: Looooooooong Samples" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> That's right and it might turn to be the only answer, but that system »-> was intended for loading samples 'on the fly' so it was possible to »-> play samples longer than memory. »-> My problem is that I have the sample in memory (I've converted it from »-> a special format) so it's a bit stupid to begin and split it up in order »-> to play it :( »-> Try downloading the Snd&Music.Lha archive from the library (I think its in Source, or somewhere like that) as it has all kinds of sample programs, and music ones all piled in. I dont know off hand if it has what you want, but maybe its worth a try. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 04:09:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 04:09:59 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06671 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 04:09:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA05439 for amos-out; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 03:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05436 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 03:27:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from antares.utu.fi (antares.utu.fi [130.232.1.2]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01055 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 03:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by utu.fi with SMTP id <31435-14645>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:27:10 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:27:09 +0200 (EET) Sender: samali@utu.fi From: Sasu Lintula To: Jens Vang Petersen cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Looooooooong Samples In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Jens Vang Petersen wrote: > Hello.. > > A request to all of you excelent sound-extension-people. Can any of you > write a sample-replayer into your extension (or even a simple AMOS- > procedure) that can handle long raw samples (+100.000 bytes) the only > way I can find to replay those bloddy things is to call an external > player like Play16.. Gah... > -- > Happy greetings, Yours.. > __________________________________________________________________________ > /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN > / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk > /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ > -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- > -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > If I remember right a some kind of long-sample double buffering routine came with the 1.36 updater. SLin From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 06:21:26 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 06:21:25 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23929 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA06333 for amos-out; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 05:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06330 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 05:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (f51.hotmail.com [207.82.250.62]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA14279 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 05:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12495 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jan 1998 10:21:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19980130102106.12494.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.18.196.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 02:21:05 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.18.196.21] From: "Ragnar Fyri" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Cc: tilbake@hotmail.com Subject: New project or pipedream? Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 02:21:05 PST Status: O X-Status: Anyone looking for a new project (or *a* project for those who didn't get involved the first time) to get involved in? Check members.tripod.com/~Skribenten/Tillamore This is still in an early idea stage, so nothing has been settled about programming, but it *could* be an Amos project... Please send comments to me, not the list. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 14:05:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 14:05:27 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17035 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA12148 for amos-out; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:42:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12145 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:42:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgi.inet.tele.dk (cgi.inet.tele.dk [194.182.149.95]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23830 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23444 invoked from network); 30 Jan 1998 13:42:19 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by cgi.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 30 Jan 1998 13:42:19 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.12]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA48808; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:42:17 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Alastair Murray CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:41:36 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <34D0833C.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Apollo 060 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 29-Jan-98, Alastair Murray smashed the keyboard with: >> On blizz1230/50 with fpu, AMOS has often crashes. I used several days to >> try and find the bug, so that I could avoid it.. >> >> Problem is: >> -A fast moving loop with an 'inkey$' inside, something like: >> Do >> w$=Inkey$ >> if..... >> else if... >> else if... >> endif >> Loop >> (As long as the user don't push a key the loop keeps running around) >> After some time the loop begins to be unstable (strange chars might be >> written, some lines appears on WB) and the Amiga Crashes.. This takes >> around 3 seconds to happen.. >> >> The solution is to put a 'Multi Wait' into the loop, this also has the >> advantage of giving some CPU-power to other programs while yours is >> awaiting the user to do something. I expect a similar fix would be to >> put 'wait vbl' inside the loop, but I've never tried.. >ahhhh. >Well actually, I'm using a blizz1230/50 with fpu with no problems but >as I've said before alot of people have troubles running some of my >programs. That sounds like it may help. I'll give it a go. I've done some experiments, and it appears that the loop gets unstable when it's runing VERY fast. So the crashes is seen more often if AMOS is running from a clean WB (No Opus or other things running). As soon as something else is running the chance of crash drops.. -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 11:54:59 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 11:54:59 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04056 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13234 for amos-out; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:05:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13227 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA14310 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24618 invoked from network); 30 Jan 1998 13:42:22 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 30 Jan 1998 13:42:22 -0000 Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.12]) by post8.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAB48808; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:42:21 +0100 From: Jens Vang Petersen To: Sasu Lintula CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:46:40 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Looooooooong Samples MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 30-Jan-98, Sasu Lintula smashed the keyboard with: >If I remember right a some kind of long-sample double buffering routine >came with the 1.36 updater. >SLin That's right and it might turn to be the only answer, but that system was intended for loading samples 'on the fly' so it was possible to play samples longer than memory. My problem is that I have the sample in memory (I've converted it from a special format) so it's a bit stupid to begin and split it up in order to play it :( -- Happy greetings, Yours.. __________________________________________________________________________ /_ __/ __ / __ /\ ___\ __ \__ _\ aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN / / / /_/ / ____/ \ \___\ __ \ \ \ top_cat@post8.tele.dk /_/ /_____/_/ \_____\_\ \_\ \_\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/ -*- Home of 'The Ultimate Extension list' for AMOS TC & AMOS PRO -*- -*- SUPPORT - AMOS - AMIGA - AQUA -*- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 19:51:20 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 19:51:20 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09712 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25655 for amos-out; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25648 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01027 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:53:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31324 invoked from network); 30 Jan 1998 20:54:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@205.246.88.106) by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 30 Jan 1998 20:54:07 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Jens Vang Petersen , Alastair Murray CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:55:39 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Apollo 060 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id PAA25653 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 30-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Jens jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Re: Apollo 060" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> I've done some experiments, and it appears that the loop gets unstable »-> when it's runing VERY fast. So the crashes is seen more often if AMOS »-> is running from a clean WB (No Opus or other things running). As soon »-> as something else is running the chance of crash drops.. Its not only the 060 which has this problem, its often occured on my machine (blizzard 1220, 28MhZ FPU) with the Foundation Mailinglist. At night, i'll reset my machine and run Miami + Foundationlist and if I get up in the middle of the night its usually frozen about 5 hours later. One way I got around this, was to limit the no. of cycles used in a loop to an absolute minimum, and thus ive had (at the most whilst in england) 39 hours out of the list program, and reset the machine remotely whilst it was still running. Instead of using Do...LOOP commands, try something else, like Repeat...Until, or While...Wend even. Just experiment with different measures and see the results. -- Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 22:42:28 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Jan 30 22:42:28 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23073 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 22:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA08397 for amos-out; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08387 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01420 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from p52-shoveler-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.73.112]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 549-33929U100000L2S50) with ESMTP id AAA21869 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 01:16:52 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 30 Jan 98 18:30:09 +0000 Subject: Re: Apollo 060 Message-Id: <34D21C31.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > >ahhhh. > >Well actually, I'm using a blizz1230/50 with fpu with no problems but > >as I've said before alot of people have troubles running some of my > >programs. That sounds like it may help. I'll give it a go. > > I've done some experiments, and it appears that the loop gets unstable > when it's runing VERY fast. So the crashes is seen more often if AMOS > is running from a clean WB (No Opus or other things running). As soon > as something else is running the chance of crash drops.. So I'd suppose that a faster processor would also increase the chance of a crash... -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 05:22:44 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 05:22:44 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00640 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 05:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA12943 for amos-out; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 03:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12940 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 03:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA08886 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 03:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA09013; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 03:52:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 03:52:03 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: Frontier Elite II To: Jamie Bentley cc: AMOS HELP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 30 Jan 1991, Jamie Bentley wrote: > Hello Eric, > > Have you ever looked at the executable file in PPMORE, or NZ, it is the EASIEST thing to hack in the world, you should see mine :) > > Hack it yourself, just change some coords of the ship (for the turrets), and rename the ships so a eagle is turned into a pantha or whatever. > > JB Thank you for responding to my mail. I have looked at the code of my CD32 version , and the 2 disk Amiga version that is how I found the Multi-Targeter, and the Target Enhancer. Unfortunately I am not a hacker if I was I would make my own trainer. If you can hack why not get some fame, and make a better trainer? Ok now to answer my own question on closer examination those two devices are new devices like the NEW-ZZ1 Navigation Aid. This device dosn't exist on the 2 disk version it may on the other version. It kick in a couple of months or so after the start of the normal game. Does any one have a disk version with the NEW-ZZ1 Navigation Aid? Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 05:30:57 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 05:30:56 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28147 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 05:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA13061 for amos-out; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 04:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13058 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 04:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA17402 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 04:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126069.agonet.it [195.32.126.69]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA16142 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:28:23 +0100 From: Pietro Ghizzoni Reply-To: ghizzo@agonet.it To: Amos-List Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:29:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Dairymen Soft Subject: Re: Looooooooong Samples MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id EAA13059 Status: O X-Status: On 29-Gen-98, Jens Vang Petersen wrote: Looooooooong Samples >Hello.. Hi! >A request to all of you excelent sound-extension-people. Can any of you >write a sample-replayer into your extension (or even a simple AMOS- >procedure) that can handle long raw samples (+100.000 bytes) the only >way I can find to replay those bloddy things is to call an external >player like Play16.. Gah... You can try this one.... it's a double buffered replayer wich use the GUI Extension asynchronous commands for play&load datas at the same time :) '** '** $VER: SamPLay 1.0 (31-01-98) '** '** Asynchronous-Double buffered sample replayer '** '** © Copyright 1998 Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft '** FreeWare '** Reserve As Chip Work 10,10000 Reserve As Chip Work 11,10000 F$=Fsel$("**") : Open In 1,F$ : L=Lof(1) : Close H=Tcp F Open(1,F$) D=Tcp Get(1,Start(10),10000) : D=Tcp Get(1,Start(11),10000) Sam Raw %1111,Start(10),10000,10000 : C=20000 : BUF=10 : BUF2=11 Do Repeat : Until Sam Swapped(1) If C>L Then Goto QUIT Sam Swap %1111 To Start(BUF2),10000 : A=Tcp Read(1,Start(BUF),10000) C=C+10000 : Swap BUF,BUF2 Loop QUIT: Tcp Close : End -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | Team AMIGA \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Professional Team Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ!! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 06:02:53 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 06:02:53 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01026 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA13056 for amos-out; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 04:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13053 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 04:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11928 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 04:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126069.agonet.it [195.32.126.69]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA16139 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:28:19 +0100 From: Pietro Ghizzoni Reply-To: Pietro Ghizzoni To: Amos-List Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:29:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Dairymen Soft Subject: Re: OS DevKit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: On 29-Gen-98, Jens Vang Petersen wrote: OS DevKit >Hello.. Hi! >First of all I'd like to send a little 'I'm sorry' to Pietro Ghizzoni >(the author of GUI) I had no intension of insulting you or your work, >and I'm very sorry of you felt that way.. Oh no,no.... i'm not offended :) I was too serious with my previous message ;).... just a genuine spirit of competition! This world is too small for 2 intuition/AGA extension!! hehehehe :) I agree with you... the OS DevKit is a good extension, but first i want see the new easy-to-use commands. Could you please send me (or to the list) come simple ASCII examples? >After my little note on OS DevKit as an alternative to GUI and JADE, I've >gotten many mails from people not knowing what this extension is, or >some who's not aware of the new, and easier, commands. Loads of questions >on what the extension realy is. Apparently Brice (the author) is not >on this list, or is to busy to advertise his work, so as a Beta-tester >I'm writing this to inform about what this extension is, and what it >supports.. _CUT_ COOL! And now the new stuffs added to the GUI Extension: - AGA support - Custom/Public/Gfx Cards screen support - support for 4bit and 32bit AGA color definition - new gfx commands (Fill,plot,point ect) - AMOS Screen promotion! You can display a Amos screen under intuition! - automatic on-line help. i.e when you move the mouse pointer over a gadget, a message (defined by you) will be displayed. - you can display AmigaGuide documents - improved mouse handling commands - new commands for internet connection. Totally asynchronous design! Now everyone can easly create a internet client. - it's always FreeWare ;) - and much more I must send a *big* 'i'm sorry' to Mush... you'll receive the infos in a few days! -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | Team AMIGA \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Professional Team Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ!! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 19:14:52 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 19:14:52 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07534 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 19:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA19609 for amos-out; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 17:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19606 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 17:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA22043 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 17:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7515 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1998 22:07:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redrose.net) (mushy-pd@208.7.253.140) by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 31 Jan 1998 22:07:03 -0000 From: Mush Reply-To: mushypd@redrose.net To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F8ller?= CC: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 17:09:30 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS Public Domain Library Subject: Re: Arexx calls from amos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id RAA19607 Status: O X-Status: It was on the night of 31-Jan-98, when no creatures were stirring, and all was silent. Suddenly, Martin jumped out from behind a rock and wouldnt stop shouting about "Arexx calls from amos" until I was forced to knock them out: »-> Hi guys. »-> Can anyone of you tell me if there exists a arexx extension for amos. Not that I know of, one isnt needed =) »-> I would like to be able to send a command directly to yam. »-> Something like this would be nice: »-> Arexx address="YAM" »-> Arexx send "getmail" »-> Does this extension exists?, and where to get it? »-> I know i'm able to use the exec command like exec "RX Script.arexx". »-> But that's another problem i'm having, it's not stable enough. »-> Some times the script works perfectly, other times it just executes »-> the first three or four lines. and then hangs. Have anyone else had this »-> problem, and how do i avoid it?. OK, take a look at this program that allows AMOS to interact with AmIRC. At the bottom is also the small AREXX script, mish.amirx, which goes in AmIRC and all channel text is sent to it: Rem ******************************************************************** Rem ** NIALL Non-Intelligent AMOS Language Learner Version 1.0   ** Rem ** ========================================================== ** Rem ** Written By Matthew Peck in 1990 ** Rem ******************************************************************** Set Buffer 400 MNW=3000 Randomize Timer Hide On : Close Editor Close Workbench Dim WORD$(MNW,1),W$(255),CO(1) Global COM,T$,WORD$(),NUM,W$(),W,SPEAK,HARD,CO(),MNW WORD$(0,0)=" " : WORD$(MNW,0)="." SETUP Do USER_INPUT If COM=1 Then Goto SKIPIT NIALL_REPLIES SKIPIT: Loop Rem -------------------------------------------------------------------- Procedure SEE_INSTRUCTIONS Screen Hide 1 : Screen Hide 0 For F=1 To 2 : Unpack 2 To 2 : Gr Writing 0 For G=1 To 25 : Read C,A$ : Ink 0 : Text 17,33+G*8,A$ Ink C : Text 16,32+G*8,A$ Next G : Wait Key : Fade 2 : Wait 30 : Next F Screen Close 2 Screen Show 1 : Screen Show 0 Data 6," COMMAND WORDS" Data 1," " Data 1," When you are given the prompt USER: you will normally type in a sentence," Data 1,"but you can also type in a command word. All command words are prefixed" Data 1,"by a '#'. This version (1.0) can support the following commands." Data 1," " Data 7,"#LIST Displays Nialls current dictionary on the screen." Data 1," " Data 7,"#LLIST Outputs the dictionary to a printer." Data 1," " Data 7,"#LPRINT Toggles direct output to printer." Data 1," " Data 7,"#SPEAK Toggles speech." Data 1," " Data 7,"#SAVE Saves the current dictionary to disc under any name." Data 1," " Data 7,"#LOAD Loads a previously saved dictionary from disc." Data 1," " Data 7,"#CORRECT Corrects a mispelt word in the dictionary." Data 1," " Data 7,"#FRESH Clears the current dictionary." Data 1," " Data 7,"#QUIT Leaves the program." Data 1," " Data 5," PRESS A KEY" Data 5," CREDITS" Data 1," " Data 4," Written by Matthew Peck in AMOS Version 1.1 in August 1990" Data 1," The original idea for NIALL was adapted from a program called DANI, which" Data 1,"was written for the MSX machines and published in a magazine,MSX Computing." Data 1,"NIALL is a complete re-write but I would like to give credit to the author" Data 1,"of DANI for the inspiration. However, I no longer have the magazine and do" Data 1,"not know the author's name. If you wrote DANI then contact me so that I can" Data 1,"place your name in the credit list." Data 1," " Data 1," Many thanks go to the following people for their help, suggestions etc." Data 6,"Adam Wright................................For waiting for me to code this." Data 6,"Pat Fox and Julian Brown.....For playtesting my BBC basic version to death." Data 6,"Kevin Tye...................................For being a generally nice guy." Data 6,"Gary Keogh...............For being a great room-mate and friend at college." Data 6,"Francios Lionet........................For AMOS, what else, and finally to " Data 6,"Sarah Gould...........For being such a caring and understanding girlfriend." Data 1," " Data 1,"My address is:" Data 4," 23 Welbeck Avenue, Bedgrove, Aylesbury, Bucks, ENGLAND, HP21 9BH." Data 1," Contact me with/for ideas, programs, NIALL dictionaries and NIALL updates." Data 1," " Data 5," PRESS A KEY" Data 1," " Data 5," AMOS (c) 1990 Mandarin/Jawx" End Proc Procedure USER_INPUT COM=0 : For F=1 To 3 : Print : Next F : For F=1 To 3 : Cup : Next F Pen CO(1) : Print "USER:"; : Pen 1 : Line Input " ";T$ Cup : Pen CO(1) : Print "USER: "; : Pen 1 : Print T$ If HARD=1 Then Lprint " USER:";T$ If T$="" Then Pop Proc T$=Lower$(T$) Rem --- Is it a command string --- If Left$(T$,1)="#" Then COMMANDS : COM=1 : Pop Proc Rem --- Cuts out the rubbish --- R$="" : For F=1 To Len(T$) If Mid$(T$,F,1)="," Then Mid$(T$,F,1)="." If Instr("!£$%^&*()_+|}{@?>0 Then FS=1 : T$=Left$(Q$,Instr(Q$,".")-1) : Q$=Right$(Q$,Len(Q$)-Instr(Q$,".")) W=1 : W$(W)="" : For F=1 To Len(T$) If Mid$(T$,F,1)=" " Then If Mid$(T$,F+1,1)<>" " Then W=W+1 : W$(W)="" : Goto SKIP W$(W)=W$(W)+Mid$(T$,F,1) SKIP: Next F If NUM<>MNW-1 ANALYSE_SENTENCE End If If FS=1 Then FS=0 : T$=Q$ : Goto FULLSTOP End Proc Procedure ANALYSE_SENTENCE Rem --- Loop for the number of words +1 --- OLD=0 For H=1 To W+1 If H=W+1 Then F=MNW : Goto FOUNDIT For F=1 To NUM : If W$(H)=WORD$(F,0) Then Goto FOUNDIT Next F Rem --- The word is a new one --- NUM=NUM+1 : WORD$(NUM,0)=W$(H) : F=NUM FOUNDIT: If WORD$(OLD,1)="" Then WORD$(OLD,1)="1|"+Str$(F)+"(1)" : Goto ALLDONE C$=WORD$(OLD,1) : C$=Str$(Val(C$)+1)+Right$(C$,Len(C$)-Instr(C$,"|")+1) For G=Instr(C$,"|")+1 To Len(C$) If Val(Right$(C$,Len(C$)-G))=F Then Goto HERE G=Instr(C$,")",G) Next G C$=C$+Str$(F)+"(1)" : WORD$(OLD,1)=C$ : Goto ALLDONE HERE: G=Instr(C$,"(",G) : I=Instr(C$,")",G)-1 C$=Left$(C$,G)+Str$(Val(Right$(C$,Len(C$)-G))+1)+Right$(C$,Len(C$)-I) WORD$(OLD,1)=C$ ALLDONE: OLD=F Next H End Proc Procedure NIALL_REPLIES If NUM=0 Then Pen CO(1) : Print "I cannot speak yet!" : Pen 1 : Pop Proc REP$="" : C=0 RLOOP: C$=WORD$(C,1) : R=Rnd(Val(C$)) : If R=0 Then Goto RLOOP For G=Instr(C$,"(") To Len(C$) R=R-Val(Right$(C$,Len(C$)-G)) : If R<=0 Then Goto THISWORD G=Instr(C$,"(",G+1)-1 Next G End THISWORD: For F=G To 1 Step -1 F$=Mid$(C$,F,1) : If(F$=")") or(F$="|") Then Goto WORD Next F WORD: D=Val(Right$(C$,Len(C$)-F)) REP$=REP$+WORD$(C,0)+" " C=D : If C<>MNW Then Goto RLOOP Do If Left$(REP$,1)<>" " Then Exit REP$=Right$(REP$,Len(REP$)-1) Loop If REP$="" Then Pop Proc Left$(REP$,1)=Chr$(Asc(Left$(REP$,1))-32) Right$(REP$,1)="." Pen CO(1) : Print "NIALL:"; : Pen 1 : Print REP$ If SPEAK=1 Then Say REP$,0 If HARD=1 Then Lprint "NIALL:";REP$ End Proc Procedure SETUP If Fast Free<>0 Unpack 1 To 0 : Screen Display 0,128,40,320,28 End If If Fast Free<>0 Screen Open 1,640,230,4,Hires : CO(0)=2 : CO(1)=3 Else Screen Open 1,320,230,2,Lowres : CO(0)=1 : CO(1)=1 End If Screen Display 1,128,70,, : Flash Off : Screen 1 : Palette $0,$FFF,$F00,$48 Pen CO(0) : Paper 0 : Cls Centre "Welcome to NIALL" : Print Centre "Non Intelligent AMOS Language Learner" : Print Centre "Written in AMOS Basic Version 1.1" : Print Centre "by Matthew Peck in 1990" : Print : Print Centre "This program is fully Public Domain" : Print : Print If Fast Free<>0 Centre "Would you like further instructions (Y/N)" : A$=Input$(1) : Print A$=Upper$(A$) If A$="Y" SEE_INSTRUCTIONS End If Centre ".......... Get Typing ..........." End If Print End Proc Procedure COMMANDS If T$="#list" For F=0 To NUM Step 20 For G=0 To 19 : If F+G<=NUM Print F+G,WORD$(F+G,0),WORD$(F+G,1) End If Next G : Print : Pen CO(0) : Centre "PRESS A KEY" : Pen 1 : Print : Wait Key Next F : Pop Proc End If If T$="#llist" For F=0 To NUM : Lprint F,WORD$(F,0),WORD$(F,1) : Next F End If If T$="#save" Show On : A$=Fsel$("*.NIALL") : Hide On If Upper$(Right$(A$,6))<>".NIALL" A$=A$+".NIALL" End If Open Out 1,A$ : Print #1,NUM For F=0 To NUM : Print #1,WORD$(F,0) : Print #1,WORD$(F,1) : Next F Close 1 End If If T$="#load" Show On : A$=Fsel$("*.NIALL") : Hide On : Open In 1,A$ Input #1,NUM Y=Y Curs For F=0 To NUM : Locate 0,Y : Print "Countdown:";NUM-F;" "; : Input #1,WORD$(F,0) : Input #1,WORD$(F,1) : Next F Close 1 Print End If If T$="#correct" Pen CO(0) : Print "Enter incorrect word:"; : Pen 1 : Input " ";O$ For F=1 To NUM If Lower$(O$)=WORD$(F,0) Pen CO(0) : Print "Enter correct spelling:"; : Pen 1 : Input " ";N$ WORD$(F,0)=Lower$(N$) Else Next F : Print "Cannot find word ";O$ End If End If If T$="#fresh" Pen CO(0) : Centre "Are you sure (Y/N)" : A$=Input$(1) : Print If Upper$(A$)="Y" For F=0 To NUM : WORD$(F,0)="" : WORD$(F,1)="" : Next F : NUM=0 End If End If If T$="#quit" Pen CO(0) : Centre "Do you really want to quit (Y/N)" : A$=Input$(1) : Print If Upper$(A$)="Y" Screen Close 0 : Screen Close 1 : End End If End If If T$="#speak" If SPEAK=0 SPEAK=1 Else SPEAK=0 End If End If If T$="#lprint" If HARD=0 HARD=1 Else HARD=0 End If End If End Proc And now for the AREXX script (mish.amirx): /**************************************************************************/ /* Script to parse stuff from AmIRC to AMOS */ /**************************************************************************/ parse arg args options results address AMOS args EXIT 10 -- Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett -- Email: Andy Kellett Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA* alt.religion.amos - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Official F1 Software Distributor for the USA Massive FTP site with AMOS/C64 and Mods/Samples + more at mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 13:02:26 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 13:02:26 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16218 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA15823 for amos-out; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15820 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mb06.swip.net (mb06.swip.net [193.12.122.210]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18406 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from get2net.dk (port53.pulje110.get2net.dk [195.82.194.117]) by mb06.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA01279 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:42:11 +0100 (MET) From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F8ller?= To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:36:15 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Arexx calls from amos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id KAA15821 Status: O X-Status: Hi guys. Can anyone of you tell me if there exists a arexx extension for amos. I would like to be able to send a command directly to yam. Something like this would be nice: Arexx address="YAM" Arexx send "getmail" Does this extension exists?, and where to get it? I know i'm able to use the exec command like exec "RX Script.arexx". But that's another problem i'm having, it's not stable enough. Some times the script works perfectly, other times it just executes the first three or four lines. and then hangs. Have anyone else had this problem, and how do i avoid it?. CYA, Martin. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Møller. http://www.focus-asia.com/home/tfb. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A4000, 040/25, 882/50, 16F, 2C, 4XCD, CV64 3D, 1GB HD, OS3.1, 56K Modem. A1200, 020/32, 4F, 2C, 169MD HD, OS3.0, 33.6 Modem. A500, 1C, 2F, OS1.2/1.3/2.04. TEAM *AMOS* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -=> If speed kills, does that mean windoze 95 is gonna live forever? <=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 13:43:18 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 13:43:18 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28753 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16016 for amos-out; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:42:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16013 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06539 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from p36-rosella-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.121.216]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 549-33929U100000L2S50) with ESMTP id AAB2444 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:42:39 +0000 From: "Alastair Murray" Date: 31 Jan 98 16:15:03 +0000 Subject: Re: Apollo 060 Message-Id: <34D34E07.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@access.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Status: O X-Status: > Instead of using Do...LOOP commands, try something else, like Repeat...Until, > or While...Wend even. Just experiment with different measures and see the > results. My problem with it is that is works fine on mine!!! Its just that other people have the problem which is how I'm having so much trouble finding and solving it. Bloody annoying I can tell you. -Murray -- Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@virgin.net Murray (o o) http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- | | game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator | |game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II | | game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator| | dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault| | pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 17:41:15 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Jan 31 17:41:15 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07309 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 17:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18750 for amos-out; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18747 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:20:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from much-magic.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de (much-magic.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.67.251]) by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18629 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:20:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (citrone@localhost) by much-magic.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA12892 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 21:07:51 +0100 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 21:07:50 +0100 (MET) From: Birol Atasoy To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Editor Commands In-Reply-To: <34D34E07.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hiho, does anyone know how to use the Editor Command AEd_Search? I used the command like this, call editor 66, 1, "Procedure" to init the search call editor 67, 1 seach next (dont know why I need there the 1 but if I dont do I get in Param$=Not done, else a Not Found. What is wrong?!?!? citrone From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Feb 1 01:03:06 1998 >From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Feb 1 01:03:06 1998 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22119 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 01:03:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA22260 for amos-out; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22257 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01380 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16342 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1998 04:32:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 16323 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1998 04:32:42 -0000 Received: from 1cust29.tnt2.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net (HELO acer200) (user@208.254.17.29) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 1998 04:32:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000701bd2eca$6d4ee380$1d11fed0@acer200> Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" From: "Adam Parrott" To: "Amos Mail Post" Cc: "Mr. Giark to You" , "Keith Hill" , "Andrew Kellett" Subject: Parrottsoft IRC bot. Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 22:32:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Status: O X-Status: Howdy hiho. I've been working on my IRC scripts and decided to do up (make) a bot. It will be occupying the #AMOS channel (at most times) at any time I may be on (which is usu. all day through weekends and evenings weekdays). The nick for the bot is Prtsftbot (Parrottsoft bot) and has a full listing of commands (which I continue to test and add to, such as: PART, JOIN, OP, DEOP, QUIT, LEAVE, NICK(change), and others (etc). Many of the commands are similiar to the Mama bot already on there, and includes cussing and flooding prevention, auto-greeting and auto-op'ing features, all of which may be turned on or off). Just mail me for more info on it. For those that I know (and frequent the channel), you are (still) in the user list, so the bot DOES recognize you when you come on and give it any commands (Mush, Brane, Giark, Pac, Pietro, Citrone). If you want to be added to the userlist, you'll either have to mail me or chat with me IRC. Just a little bit of info you'll need to know. Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!)