From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 16 18:43:38 1994 Received: from gate.demon.co.uk (gate.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.65]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA03378 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 18:43:15 +0300 Received: from ragman.demon.co.uk by gate.demon.co.uk id aa09447; 16 Jul 94 16:34 GMT-60:00 Received: by ragman.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA002ny; Wed, 2 Sep 92 13:10:29 BST-1 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 13:10:29 BST-1 Message-Id: <9209021910.AA002nx@ragman.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 1.19) Reply-To: Chris@ragman.demon.co.uk From: Chris Russell To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Blitz mailer - right place ?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: A Status: RO Wading through usenet news the other day I came across a posting that mentioned a Blitz Basic mailing list. I gather this is the right address for that list so could you please add me to it ? Mail address is chris@ragman.demon.co.uk Thanx in advance Chris Russell -------------------------------------------------------------------------. ! Email Chris@ragman.demon.co.uk ! !-------------------------------------------------------------------------! ! "That is not dead which can eternal lie, ! ! "And with strange aeons even death may die." ! `-------------------------------------------------------------------------' From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 5 16:45:40 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA01239 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:45:22 +0300 Received: from esprit.uccs.edu by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Mon, 4 Jul 1994 23:39:22 +0300 Received: (from gawenzel@localhost) by esprit.uccs.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA23245 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 14:36:41 -0600 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 14:36:41 -0600 From: Gerald A Wenzel Message-Id: <199407042036.OAA23245@esprit.uccs.edu> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Bitmaps & Slices MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Could someone please explain the concept of "Bitmaps" and "Slices" to me. I'm having a hard time understanding the explanations given in the BB2 docs. Also, does anyone know of some good books (in English) where I can get information about programming graphics. Thanks in advance Gerald gawenzel@esprit.uccs.edu From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 5 16:51:31 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA01905 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:51:05 +0300 Received: from sisvax (actually sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk) by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Tue, 5 Jul 1994 13:28:42 +0300 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 11:19:29 +0100 Message-Id: <94070511192883@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Steve) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Yet another one... X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi y'all, Just a quick note to say that there is another library currently in development. It's called the TrackDisk-Lib and contains commands to read/write sectors from a disk - if you dont want people to rip stuff from your programs (e.g. shape files/IFFs/modules etc.), you can write them to unused sectors of a disk and voila, its safe. It currently contains the following commands : OpenDisk unit# CloseDisk unit# MotorOn unit# ; not really necessary MotorOff unit# ReadSector unit#,sector#,buffer[,numsectors] WriteSector unit#,sector#,buffer[,numsectors] FormatTrack unit#,track#,buffer[,numtracks] I'm not really sure if its worth continuing this library - after all it has limited use, but if you want it, then just tell me. Steve. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Steven Matty from Reflective Images| Gripes : That Friggin' Clown Game Won| |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6Mb/33FPU/Blitz | Current Project : Fired Guns | | Soon to be A1200/340/6Mb/33FPU/030 | [#:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::] | | | Current Project : Shapes Lib | | sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [##################::::::::::::::::] | | | Current Project : BlitzLibs v3.2 | | <> | [###########################:::::::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 5 16:52:00 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA01936 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:51:20 +0300 Received: from sisvax (actually sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk) by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Tue, 5 Jul 1994 13:35:59 +0300 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 11:31:55 +0100 Message-Id: <94070511315509@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Ham8 X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: Has anybody else had problems displaying HAM8 pictures on a BLitz display? On mine the palette seems to be corrupted and looks very crap. When DPaint saves out Ham8 pictures it saves out 256 colour entries, does this mean that DPaint colour splits the display? Or does it mean something else? Also there are loads of wierd chunks in an HAM8 IFF file - what do these chunks do? Does anybody out there know? Thanx in advance..... Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Someones spotted a T.T. bug!| |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6MB/Blitz2 | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | | [###############!] [###############] | | | Finished Project : RI Libs v3.2 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [###########################:::::::] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Finished Project : Map Editor v1.1 | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [######################::::::::::::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk Tue Jul 5 20:02:14 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA01936 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:51:20 +0300 Received: from sisvax (actually sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk) by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Tue, 5 Jul 1994 13:35:59 +0300 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 11:31:55 +0100 Message-Id: <94070511315509@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: blitz-list@Helsinki.FI Subject: Ham8 X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: Has anybody else had problems displaying HAM8 pictures on a BLitz display? On mine the palette seems to be corrupted and looks very crap. When DPaint saves out Ham8 pictures it saves out 256 colour entries, does this mean that DPaint colour splits the display? Or does it mean something else? Also there are loads of wierd chunks in an HAM8 IFF file - what do these chunks do? Does anybody out there know? Thanx in advance..... Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Someones spotted a T.T. bug!| |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6MB/Blitz2 | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | | [###############!] [###############] | | | Finished Project : RI Libs v3.2 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [###########################:::::::] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Finished Project : Map Editor v1.1 | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [######################::::::::::::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 5 16:52:22 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA01995 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:51:57 +0300 Received: from mail.swip.net by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:12:58 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id NAA03092; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 13:11:42 +0200 Received: by gfl.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02250; Tue, 5 Jul 94 13:08:16 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 94 13:08:16 +0200 Message-Id: <9407051108.AA02250@gfl.se> From: sand@gfl.se (Peter Sandberg) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Amiga Format Blitz Compo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi there! I live in Sweden and I've just received the july issue of AF. I think that it's ridiculous how they have handled the competition. In the paper there is only a couple of lines stating the winners names. No screenshots or anything. I think that if they (Acid) wanted more people to buy BB2 then they should have shown several of the best entries. If people see what can be done with this brilliant language I'm sure they will also buy it. When I spoke to AF about the competition a couple of months ago they said that they had received some very good stuff. It's a shame that no one outside the small(?) bb2 community will ever see them. Greetings from Peter Sandberg sand@gfl.se From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 5 16:34:04 1994 Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA00595 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:32:30 +0300 Received: from rognlia.ifi.uio.no (rognlia.ifi.uio.no [129.240.104.36]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.8.1/ifi2.4) id for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:32:09 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Arild_B=F8hmer?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from ) by rognlia.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:32:05 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:31:57 +0200 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: X-Status: Status: RO tomb@ifi.uio.no From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 5 23:00:07 1994 Received: from teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA17894 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 22:59:47 +0300 Received: from elaine.teleport.com (elaine.teleport.com [192.108.254.13]) by teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA06710 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 12:59:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 12:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "W.L. McGraw" Subject: AGA SPRITES To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Having trouble displaying 64 bit sprites on an AGA (A1200) machine. I am using the some code that looks something like this: Loadshape Spritemode 2 Getasprite Displaysprite The sprite will display but it is not 64 bits wide. I am using a 64 x 64 shape that I created in D-paint. If anyone has any additional information for using sprites on AGA machines I could really use some help. mactech@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81) From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 6 02:07:21 1994 Received: from CCVAX.FULLERTON.EDU (csu.Fullerton.EDU [137.151.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA01615 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 02:07:06 +0300 From: XRACTON@CCVAX.FULLERTON.EDU Received: from FULLERTON.EDU by FULLERTON.EDU (PMDF #2446 ) id <01HECPWYHSIO00DI6L@FULLERTON.EDU>; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:03:17 PST Date: 05 Jul 1994 16:03:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Subscribe please To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HECPWYHSIQ00DI6L@FULLERTON.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO Would the moderator subscribe me to this list? From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 6 17:58:55 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA06082 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 17:58:48 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 17:58:05 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 17:52:39 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 10:38:34 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 11:43:22 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 11:43:08 +0300 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 11:43:08 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<75DA8C47F9@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: Yet anoth... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: <75DA8C47F9@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Yet another one... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > I'm not really sure if its worth continuing this library - after all it has > limited use, but if you want it, then just tell me. Sounds very interesting steve 8) Has anybody considered writing libraries which do a similar job to LoadShapes, LoadSounds, etc, except supporting compression. Although this would leave the files in their original state on the diskdrive, the files would be compressed so people wouldn't be able to touch them (maye build in a decription key value too). +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Formula One GrandPrix amiga internet champion for 1994. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 12:40:30 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA12647 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:40:03 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:39:39 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:39:02 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:28:30 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:33:33 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:33:01 +0300 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:33:01 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Things in gen... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Things in general X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi all, Firstly to Steve, hows the mapeditor coming? I haven't had an update for a while. Did you fix the disappearing block problem, since thats the only thing stopping me from using it at the mo (plus the shape select crash). Now a question of copyright. Is it okay for me to distribute Commodore's Installer application with my game. I supply an installer script for installation onto a harddisk, but there may be many people who don't have installer. Of course, people who have it already may not like downloaded another copy of a program they have already, but I cannot please everybody all of the time 8) What do you all think is the best approach? +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Formula One GrandPrix amiga internet champion for 1994. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 12:32:58 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA12349 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:32:50 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:32:02 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:31:49 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:31:30 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:36:33 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:36:15 +0300 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:36:15 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Debugger (l)que. Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Debugger (question to Acid Software) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi, With the release of BUM7 soon, can you (Acid) tell me if the debugger is fixed so it works on accelerated machines. I've basically written half my game without the aid of a debugger because the bloody thing is so unstable. Also, any chance of the sfx corruption (on accelerated machines) bug being fixed????? +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Formula One GrandPrix amiga internet champion for 1994. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 12:54:18 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA13148 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:54:03 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:53:38 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:52:52 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:52:50 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:57:53 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:57:34 +0300 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:57:34 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: Debugger ... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Debugger (question to Acid Software) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > Ya hello Martin, hi 8) > Debugger bad on accelerators? Very bad. > Any points in particular? Well, recently (about a month ago), I started getting errors when examining variables. Sometimes it would work fine, sometimes when I asked to see an existing variable, it would say 'cannot create in direct mode', even tho the variable definitely exists! Also, when my program reached a certain size I think (although I may be wrong in that), when running my game in debugging mode, the game crashes at random intervals, usually no more than 30 secs after it starts. No feedback at all, it simply crashes my machine. Of course, my game runs fine in non-debug mode (not a single crash), but as soon as I switch to debug mode, random crashes. > Unlk A4 is not reliable so if you have any assembler you need to stick > runerrsoff and runerrson (cniffed of course for only when you want > runtime errors) around the statements in question. I read in bum6 that unlnk a4 statements should be placed at the end of asm statements/functions. Is this still correct? > We had an asshole of a > job finishing SkidMarks cos me and Andrew hadn't figured it out.. I can believe it 8) Is SkidMarks being updated at all. I wish for greater computer intelligence, since I have yet to lose a match against the computer, and I usually lap them once or twice (they are aweful drivers) 8^) > Oh and soundfx, apparently Roger has added a cacheofff command so that is > apparently a rude fix for the sound library, I hope to publish the source > code to the sound lib plus an explanation of how you drive interupts from > libraries in bum7 Very nice. Is this sound patch a small thing? You see, I'm releasing my game in the next couple of days. Is it possible for me to make this patch myself, since the sound bug takes a lot of gloss off my game. Cheers +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Formula One GrandPrix amiga internet champion for 1994. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 13:12:49 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA13855 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:12:38 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:12:07 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:11:40 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:11:39 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:16:42 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:16:19 +0300 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:16:19 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: Debugger ... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Debugger (question to Acid Software) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > we fixed most of the direct mode stuff in v1.08 (bum6) to be honest i've > never got out of the habit of ignoring the debugger completely, oh dear Yep, I have bum6 (blitz v1.8). > yes a bit silly for the debugger to ad bug (a bugger indeed!) the unlk a4 > thing as i said is the main problem I know of, Was I correct in just moving the unlnk a4 command to the end of the asm statements in my code (just before the return)? If so, then I suppose theres nothing more I can do. 8( Is the debugger due for an overhaul in the near future? I cannot forsee myself carrying on with the language much further if as important tool as the debugger is not functioning at all. > Yeh, I always swap the cars around to make it a little harder some of the > computers suit the monster camaro, you have to be a bit of a swizz to > beat them on the flat snow course in a porsche i think, wouldn't it be > nice to be able to play over the net? then we wouldn't need bloody > computer cars... Over the net would be fantastic. Unfortunately I seem to be rather good at SkidMarks, since I cannot find anybody who can beat me. This removes a lot of fun from the game, as you can imagine. (Any chance of a hd installable version in the future?) > oh and as for a quick patch howabout cpu nocache in your startup sequence > or as an execute_ call? I haven't tried turning my caches off to be honest, but while I could do that for my machine, I obviously cannot do that on other people's machines, they would kill me 8) what do you mean by execute_ call? I don't have the blitz manuals in front of me now, so I can't look it up. What does it do? Let me just add that, although I'm complaining a lot in these letters, its great to see Acid Software on internet at last. In fact, my previous two letters got responses from you within 10-15 minutes, hows that for service ! 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Formula One GrandPrix amiga internet champion for 1994. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 13:29:49 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA14492 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:29:36 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:29:12 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:28:08 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:28:02 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:33:05 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:32:34 +0300 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:32:34 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<101A68204E@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: Debugger ... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: <101A68204E@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Debugger (question to Acid Software) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > 1. your a fucking C++ programmer in your sig file so what do I care! um 8) > 2. formula one amiga internet champion, i don't understand? A competiton on internet, in which people race and enter times, and the winner is the person who has the most points at the end of the season is the winner. > 3. did you not get the runerrs off and on message I posted? Yep, I'll try it tonight (I'm at work you know). Sounds like a hack to me tho. > 4. yeh 10 minute turn arounds is kind of bizarre, do you evver work? Yep of course 8). But my c compiler is busy in the background, leaving me lots of time. Did you know Ted is very flaky with very large files. Two weeks ago, it destroyed my main source file (which was about 4500 lines of code). It just ate it up and spat out a 650K file full of binary junk. I've know split my game source up into smaller pieces, and things are working smoothly, but I wasn't pleased at the time. Also, does anybody from Acid Software care to comment on that Amiga Format competition. I'd like to hear the reasons why that crap Circus game won? 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Formula One GrandPrix amiga internet champion for 1994. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 14:52:41 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA18109 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:52:20 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:51:35 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:50:58 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:46:21 +0300 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:46:21 +0300 X400-Originator: PHY93003%ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk%ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk@birmingham.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<"07_Jul_94_12:46:21_BST_#0978"@] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: RE:VS-Include... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: "SgtBilko (aka Mark Tiffany)"@birmingham.ac.uk Sender: PHY93003@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk Message-ID: <"07_Jul_94_12:46:21_BST_#0978"@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090> To: Blitz-list@HELSINKI.fi Subject: RE:VS-Includes.lha - Where is the *.res file???? Reply-To: Dave Cole Original-Sender: PHY93003@ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Okay Okay - Im stupid - I admit it.... > Just a quick query, where can I find the vs.res file (or whatever >its called), from the VS-Includes.lha file I ftp'd the other day. >It doesn't seem to be in the archive, so consequently, the progs >won't work without it (well I gather they won't, I haven't actually >tried to compile them). I Know!!!! Just get rid of the reference to VW-Types.res from the compiler options...Its from my Virtual Worlds prog, and I sort of forgot to remove t before uploading - whoops ;} Those libs have been slightly updated now (the textEntry one actually), but Im off home today and dont have a chance to upload them myself - I will be mailing to someone who can upload the updates for me, but that may take week or two....Ill be back on line in October. Thanx to all those who have offerred to do that uploading... If anyone is really desperate/cant access ftp/whatever, send me a disk and sae and Ill mail you the stuff. Mail to the address below. They should be updated on aminet (dev/basic/VS-Includes.lha) within 2 weeks - I WILL try!!! For the moment tho` they do work - just remove the reference. Seeyall in October - And Hi to Simon - FINALLY!!!! SIMON : Can U believe it - I STILL dont even have BUM6 - Ive contacted the lace in the uk several times and they _STILL_ wont send me anything!!!! Maybe I should try again (and again... and again...) PLEASE NOTE : I WILL NOT BE CONTACTABLE VIA E-MAIL AS OF 9TH JULY. AFTER THIS DATE CONTACT ME AT 37 Norfolk,Littlehampton,West Sussex BN17 5PW (But I will be back at the beginning of October....) .---. .--. | | | /---------------------------- '---. |_ |--' ' | | , .--. -\ | PHY93003@bham.ac.uk | .-. | | | | | |< | | | | '---' '-| '-' '--' '-' '-' ' ' '--' | | AMIGA1200/HD64/FASTRAM2 -' | | Author of : Virtual Worlds (Amiga) (aka Mark Tiffany) | | VS-Includes Blitz2 Libraries Compilation | | Virtual Ballistics (PC) | | VW Version 1.010 available NOW! :: V1.011 is eating peanuts...... | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Cherries _ARE_ blue - I dont care what they say... | \-------------------------------------------------------------------/ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 15:21:53 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA19389 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:19:56 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:19:20 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:18:58 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:14:34 +0300 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:14:34 +0300 X400-Originator: PHY93003%ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk%ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk@birmingham.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<"07_Jul_94_13:14:34_BST_#1109"@] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Bye everyone Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: "SgtBilko (aka Mark Tiffany)"@birmingham.ac.uk Sender: PHY93003@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk Message-ID: <"07_Jul_94_13:14:34_BST_#1109"@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090> To: Blitz-list@HELSINKI.fi Subject: Bye everyone Reply-To: PHY93003@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk Original-Sender: PHY93003@ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Well - Thats it for my first academic year....And my first 6 months of using blitz. Irts been fun on both counts - especially with this list, and I hope youll still be here when i get back in october. Ill try and keep in contact if theres any queries about my progs mail them to me - if anyone new joins the list and starts asking for directions about my stuff - direct them to my addres s - its in the docs of ALL my uploaded stuff - Cheers everyone..... Bysey-bye... Mark Tiffany. PLEASE NOTE : I WILL NOT BE CONTACTABLE VIA E-MAIL AS OF 9TH JULY. AFTER THIS DATE CONTACT ME AT 37 Norfolk,Littlehampton,West Sussex BN17 5PW (But I will be back at the beginning of October....) .---. .--. | | | /---------------------------- '---. |_ |--' ' | | , .--. -\ | PHY93003@bham.ac.uk | .-. | | | | | |< | | | | '---' '-| '-' '--' '-' '-' ' ' '--' | | AMIGA1200/HD64/FASTRAM2 -' | | Author of : Virtual Worlds (Amiga) (aka Mark Tiffany) | | VS-Includes Blitz2 Libraries Compilation | | Virtual Ballistics (PC) | | VW Version 1.010 available NOW! :: V1.011 is eating peanuts...... | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Cherries _ARE_ blue - I dont care what they say... | \-------------------------------------------------------------------/ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 13:24:56 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA14232 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:24:41 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <19704-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:22:02 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA44568; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:18:49 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 7 Jul 94 12:20:58 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 7 Jul 94 12:20:38 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:20:31 GMT-1DFT Subject: Blitz Project Report X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Allright guys, here it is again, the Blitz Project Report. My BlitzGuide will be finised this weekend, so I can mail it next week to everybody who send me a request. BPR - Blitz Project Report #7 updated: 07-07-94 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please notice the place when you upload a project when it's completed or ready for beta testing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Nigel Hughes EMAIL : nlh1@aber.uk.ac PROJECT : Tetris Duel [AGA 2 Player Tetris With 6 Specials] STATUS : Shareware Version on Aminet in /game/think/ Tetris_Duel.lha. Registered version 95% complete PROJECT : Hall Of Champions (AGA beat 'em up) STATUS : 30% complete (need MORE graphics) PROJECT : U.F.O Force (CD-ROM AGA Stratergy Extravaganza) STATUS : Design and story boarding stage PROJECT : Shapez, Blitz shape grabber and manipulator STATUS : Version 1.00 complete, should be on Aminet (Mikko?) Version : 2.00 50% complete -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : SgtBilko (Mark Tiffany) EMAIL : As above or PHY93003@bham.ac.uk (my mail server sometimes refuses mail that goes to either of them!) PROJECT : Virtual Worlds STATUS : As of 28/6/94, V1.011 now available -> Editor 99% complete. It all works, but more _WILL_ be added. Note: NO Interpreter. Interpreter is still about 25% complete and will be available October `94 (roughly). DESCRIP.: Adventure Creation System, mainly for text adventures with still graphics, support for Monkey Island style adventures to be implemented once main features are complete. AVAIL. : dev/misc/VirtualWorlds1_011.lha on aminet PROJECT : Virtual Software Include Libraries STATUS : 28/6/94 ToolTypes,ASL,TextEntry supported. Constantly(ish) updated. DESCRIP.: A few include files that give some nice features for your progs. AVAIL. : dev/basic/VS-Includes.lha on aminet --------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Jurgen Valks EMAIL : j.valks@hsbos.nl PROJECT : Hero 2049 DESCRIP.: A C64 conversion of Hero but with more hightech & special weapons. STATUS : About 30%, I found a working graphic artist!!! I can work now! PROJECT : Blitz2 AmigaGuide file STATUS : 98% ready, will be ready this weekend -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Michael Cooper EMAIL : mcc@met.ed.ac.uk PROJECT : Mr. Zen (Platform/God sim kind of game) STATUS : 25% completed -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : David Marshall EMAIL : D.P.Marshall@durham.ac.uk PROJECT : Outline Font Editor STATUS : 40% finished -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : William Nolan EMAIL : wn22@cmu.edu PROJECT : Commando Raid (vertical scrolling shoot em up, scrolls downwards, not up like most) STATUS : 100% complete. This game is now available on Aminet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Martin Kift EMAIL : cekift@pyr.swan.ac.uk PROJECT : StarWoids DESCRIP.: Thinking mans shoot'em up (based on classic game 'Oids') STATUS : Demo version is 95% complete, and should be hitting aminet very soon. The shareware version is a couple of months away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Paul Reece EMAIL : preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au PROJECT : Porting my AMOS music extension to Blitz2. STATUS : Version 1.2 is COMPLETE!! Features PT routines, Sampling, TFMX and MORE!! If you are interested in BetaTesting, please email me at paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au with your system details etc. and I'll think about it... :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Peter Sandberg EMAIL : sand@gfl.se PROJECT : SpaceMan, An isometric-labyrinth-shoot'em up STATUS : Ready for alfa-testing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Keith Suddick EMAIL : Keith.Suddick@Northumbria.AC.UK PROJECT : Wriggly II DESCRIP.: Maze/puzzle game - written for Blitz competition STATUS : 80% completed, but currently in a working state -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-33 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 15:08:17 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA18907 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:07:56 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:07:17 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:06:38 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:06:38 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 16:11:41 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 16:11:24 +0300 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 16:11:24 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<11C0573E4A@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: To Mark (l)coul. Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: <11C0573E4A@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: To Mark (couldn't mail directly for some reason) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi Mark, If (during the summer) you want me to upload stuff to aminet for you, or you want me to desperately grab something for you, send me the disks and I will do the business. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 8 16:49:38 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA14492 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 16:49:30 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 16:49:01 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 16:48:06 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 16:42:58 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 17:48:02 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 17:47:30 +0300 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 17:47:30 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<2B5B4578B4@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: Things in... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: <2B5B4578B4@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Things in general (To steve) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > Sorry about not sending you an update but I found that I'd removed it from the > network here. I've been working hard on the program and have put in keyboard > shortcuts for all menu options, plus a few extra useful features. Hopefully I > should get more of the program done over the weekend so I'll rush you over a > copy on Monday. That sounds fantastic, I'll anxious to see it. I'll give it a thorough testing for you, don't you worry. I've described the program to my graphics friend (doing the graphics for my game), and hes failing over himself with excitment 8) > The prog is looking bloody good at the moment. Still not incredibly stable > though (Acid's fault - not mine!), can't seem to sort out the recoverable > alert thing. Nevermind, though, doesn't rain but it pours! Hows things at > your end? Doing anything interesting at the moment (I've probably got mail > from you somewhere that says you're working on blah blah but I really can't > remember what it is). Oh, my shootemup game 8) Yeah, the demo is finished now, I'll be uploading it to aminet later on. I'd mail it to you but I cannot, as you know. Its called StarWoids. Mostly bug free, except some sound and memory bugs which I think are blitz problems, and I can't seem to get rid of them. 8( > Do you think I should mail my RIAnim lib to the list? It allows truly > supersmooth playback of large anim files (via Anim7 compression). Do you think > the library shouldhave functions to delta compress frames for you? This would > mean that you could create your own animation files. Yeah, mail it, people would be stupid to complain about blitz libs being posted, they are the life of the language! Anim7. 8) That sounds excellent, I could definitely make use of that in my game (the release version) I think. Delta compress? Hmm, I think a separate library for that could be useful. Yeah, on the face of it, that would be excellent. Have you considered developing some libs to support compressed and encripted sounds/graphics etc, and maybe the bundling of lots of iff pics into one file? I would kill for something like that! 8) > Write back soon..... Unfortunately, my reply comes via the blitz-list again, when is your mail system due for a revamp???? +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 9 06:24:36 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA09303 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 1994 06:24:08 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6852; Sat, 09 Jul 94 06:22:20 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6851; Sat, 9 Jul 1994 06:22:21 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4508; Fri, 08 Jul 94 23:23:12 EDT Message-Id: <08JUL94.25257163.0068.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 94 23:23:10 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Steve's TrackLib MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi Steve: I think you should continue with the track lib because I for one think it's great to be able to save data onto disk tracks instead of the normal file method of saving. Know what i mean? Also, will you libs be able to allow us to save our programs onto the tracks also (i.e. make NON-DOS disk games) ? That would also be great! Mr. Mig From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 9 06:29:36 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA09331 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 1994 06:29:24 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6881; Sat, 09 Jul 94 06:27:37 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6879; Sat, 9 Jul 1994 06:27:37 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4558; Fri, 08 Jul 94 23:28:24 EDT Message-Id: <08JUL94.25350925.0068.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 94 23:28:23 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Hey all. Project! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Just to let you all know, I'm planning on making a Blitz version of Jeopardy! (Or did I already mention that?) Well, I think it would be a great practice project for me for my first Blitz 2 program. What do you guys think? I'vre already done a couple of routines, and they are turning out great! I'm planning on digitizing graphics and sound directly from the show itself, so hopefully it will interest you guys enough to Download it! hehe! Also, maybe I can ask something of you. I am trying to figure out what the best way of making something zoom in, for example, the screen for the Daily Double on Jeopardy! You know? It starts of small and it flips around on the x-axis while coming closer and closer to the screen, until it occupies the whole screen. What's the best way to do the zooming part to make it look ultra smooth? Mr. Mig From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 02:23:54 1994 Received: from mailhost.phantom.com (spock.phantom.com [198.67.3.9]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA10193 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 02:22:41 +0300 Received: from mindvox (mindvox.phantom.com) by mailhost.phantom.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05591; Sun, 10 Jul 94 19:43:37 EDT Received: by mindvox (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19012; Sun, 10 Jul 94 19:21:53 EDT To: BLITZ-LIST@HELSINKI.FI Cc: gsiklos@phantom.com Subject: subscribe to list From: gsiklos@phantom.com (Gregory siklos) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Jul 94 19:18:46 EDT Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: A Status: RO I would like to subscribe to the Blitz basic list My Email address is: gsiklos@phantom.com Thank you Greg Siklos From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 03:28:52 1994 Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA11937 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 03:27:48 +0300 Received: from compulink.co.uk by eros.britain.eu.net with UUCP id ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 01:27:15 +0100 Received: from smtpsrvr by cix.compulink.co.uk id aa26802; 11 Jul 94 0:03 GMT Received: by gonzales.compulink.co.uk. (5.65/25-eef) id AA10795; Mon, 11 Jul 94 01:03:45 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 01:03 BST-1 From: Graham Kennedy Subject: GTLIB bug To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Reply-To: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Just a Quick bug report: Library: Gadtools Problem: For Gadtools displayed aprox 40bytes of memory is lost when the program exits. (Although listviews seem to take up 160 bytes) This memory is not released even if a Free GTLIST xx is issued. When I recompiled the GTLIB from BUM5 and replaced the BUM6 Version the problem is removed. Example: If the BUM6 GTDEMO is compiled and made executable it will show a memory drain when run multiple times. Recompile using the BUM5 version of GTLIB and the problem is removed. Fix: I will have a look at the code see if I can see any problems, although my assember is a bit rusty these days, If anyone has already seen the problem (& fixed it) let me know and I'll leave it alone.! Graham K. From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 06:05:06 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA15880 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 06:03:39 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5852; Mon, 11 Jul 94 06:01:51 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5851; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 06:01:51 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 1783; Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:02:39 EDT Message-Id: <10JUL94.24887039.0250.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:02:36 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: BUG! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO BUG! BUG! BUG! I don't like that shape editor that comes with Blitz ][. Anyone ever have any problems with it? I grabbed about 60 or so shapes and whenever I get to shape # 56, it says there is no cookiecut for this shape! GAK! What's going on here? How can I finish my Jeopardy! game now!? Snif! Are there any other shape grabbers anywhere? Hope so. Mr. Mig From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 13 04:56:16 1994 Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.220.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA18577 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 04:28:16 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id DAA17408; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 03:27:37 +0200 Received: by gfl.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00364; Mon, 11 Jul 94 08:40:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 08:40:25 +0200 Message-Id: <9407110640.AA00364@gfl.se> From: sand@gfl.se (Peter Sandberg) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Acid on the list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO It seems like Acid is with us here on the list finally - hooray and welcome 8). As a little test I will now ask a question. I have an A2000(WB 1.3) and are currently planning to upgrade to WB 3.1. Will I still be able to use BB2 or will I run into some incompability? Regards Peter Sandberg sand@gfl.se From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 11:14:16 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA25170 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 11:13:51 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qNGR4-0003sDC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:09 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:06:29 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 11:06:24 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Sound problem Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <26D97A55268@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi all! I know that there have been some discussion about this blitz sound problem...and yes I know that it will work fine with this cache off thing (which is not the solution of course). So what I'm interested in is next: * Will there be any replacement libs from Acid (Simon?)? * Maybe there are some user made libs? * Is ther any possible way to handle this thing in asm (though i've noted that things U write in asm (in blitz) will 78.4% crash :( So does anybodu know anything about this?? I just don't want to release my mega project because of crapped sounds!! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 12:05:40 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA27121 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:05:35 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <10294-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 11:04:57 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41250; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 11:01:34 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:03:57 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:03:44 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 11:03:36 GMT-1DFT Subject: Re: Sound problem Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: <14CE7E35D42@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > I know that there have been some discussion about this blitz > sound problem...and yes I know that it will work fine with this cache > off thing (which is not the solution of course). So what I'm > interested in is next: > * Will there be any replacement libs from Acid (Simon?)? > * Maybe there are some user made libs? > * Is ther any possible way to handle this thing in asm (though > i've noted that things U write in asm (in blitz) will 78.4% crash :( > > So does anybodu know anything about this?? I just don't want to > release my mega project because of crapped sounds!! Try Paul Reece's library when it's finished, it's good! Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-33 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 13:10:02 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA29685 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:09:56 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:08:58 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:08:03 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:08:01 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 14:13:13 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 14:12:43 +0300 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 14:12:43 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<2E84791045@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: Sound pro... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: <2E84791045@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Sound problem X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > and last but not least, the party pack thing is about to kick off, 1 BGP > (british pound) payed to all authors contributions with I reckon 5 very > nice titles on each disk, will hopefully have some reference material and > a comms package for linking CD32 to other AGA machines for developers. Where do we find information about this scheme?? Thanks 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 13:59:33 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA01765 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:59:18 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:58:51 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:58:15 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:58:09 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:03:20 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:02:49 +0300 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:02:49 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<2F5A64351E@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: Mapeditor Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: <2F5A64351E@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Mapeditor X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO To Steve, Thanks for the mapeditor, I'll give it a good bashing over the next day or so and let you know the results. By the way (to all I suppose), my latest blitz game StarWoids is finished (well the demo anyway), and will be available at all good ftp sites in the next day or so. Actually, I'm setting up my own ftp site right now, which should be active later today. I'll mail the list once its ready for access. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 13:04:44 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA29456 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:04:38 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <11442-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:04:14 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20910; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:00:56 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 11 Jul 94 12:03:14 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 11 Jul 94 12:02:59 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:02:53 GMT-1DFT Subject: Blitz Guide Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: <14DE4A94B10@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: A Status: RO Hello All, My Blitz2 Guide is finshed and is allready send to everybody who requested it. If more people want the file, mail me! Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-33 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 19:16:22 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA15447 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 19:16:04 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 19:15:39 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 19:14:59 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 19:14:37 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:19:49 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:19:33 +0300 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:19:33 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<34A15C73C6@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: StarWoids rel... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: <34A15C73C6@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: StarWoids released X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi all, Just to announce that the demo of my latest blitz game StarWoids is now released. It should be available on an ftp site near you soon, but its now available on my own anonymous ftp site at the following address: cekift.swan.ac.uk This site may be unavailable at some times of the day, so if you can't get through, please try again later. This site is unmonitored, so please treat it with respect. If you have any blitz demos etc which you wish to give me, then feel free to drop them in my account (with an associated text file). Cheers +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 12 02:18:40 1994 Received: from is-next.umd.edu (is-next.umd.edu [129.2.8.27]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA29271 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 02:18:11 +0300 Received: from [128.8.11.205] (consulting.slip.umd.edu) by is-next.umd.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA15341; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:17:44 EDT Message-Id: <9407112317.AA15341@is-next.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 19:20:21 -0500 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi From: dillera@is-next.umd.edu (Andrew Diller) Subject: Blitz- the amiga Format version X-Status: Status: RO I am using the version that came with the amiga format- but it does not seem to do anything much on my 3000 except crash when I try and complie & run the simplest program. It manages to open the blitz cli window then it locks up my machine. It also claims to never have enough memory to compile a little tiny program- how can I tell it to take more, I hvae 26 megs of ram free!! Also, I would like to get a real version & manual- but I am having a hard time getting it in the USA. ACID---> who distributes for you all over here? Will the amiga format version work in ntsc, or do i need to be in pal?!?! help- trying to determine if i want the whole package ( i'm sure I do!), |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | /|_|_|_| Andrew Diller | | /|_| |_| dillera@cygnus.umd.edu | | |_| |_| | | / / / / | | | |----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 12 14:33:49 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA22739 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:33:30 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:33:02 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:32:08 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:32:07 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 15:37:18 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 15:36:46 +0300 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 15:36:46 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<47EBFA3CAA@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: Your FTP ... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: <47EBFA3CAA@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Your FTP site (Steve) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Yep steve, I did manage to logonto your account 8) I did have my server switched off for a few mins this morning, so maybe you tried to logon in that time. Try again and see if it works now. If it doesn't, I can drop StarWoids into your account for you 8) (P.S. We could use this method of exchanging letters and code you know, better than blitzlist 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 12 18:48:12 1994 Received: from sol.newcastle.edu.au (sol.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.96.103]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA03666 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:47:34 +0300 Received: from sage.newcastle.edu.au by sol.newcastle.edu.au with SMTP id AA10096 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Wed, 13 Jul 1994 00:45:19 +1000 From: Brett Johansen Message-Id: <199407121445.AA10096@sol.newcastle.edu.au> Subject: sprite answer? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 00:45:18 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Well I here there are over 100 users of this list including the creator himself. So surely someone can answer the question I have asked before!!! How can I reuse the same sprite channel to display another image further down the screen (with at least 1 pixel margin). This is the whole idea of sprites reusing the same sprite channel to display multiple sprites down the screen. Heres hoping for an answer `Brett -- c9108939@cs.newcastle.edu.au "Lemons...broken oranges, a life" From duncan@zeus.usq.edu.au Wed Jul 13 15:35:26 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA06697 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 14:50:38 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA00449 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 13 Jul 1994 11:26:18 -1000 Message-Id: <199407132126.AA00449@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: ILBMInfo problems To: blitz-list@Helsinki.FI Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 11:23:09 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi Folks, I am having problems with ILBMInfo Every time it is used it takes the complete size of the image and does not give it back. Also I think it loads the complete image in as well. Not good for CD32 work. I thought I might have a look at the header of the image file and get all the info I need. Here is the start of the idea. However where is the ViewMode info? ; --------------------------------------------- ; ILBM CHECKER (I hope) ; --------------------------------------------- NEWTYPE .bmhd Name.s Lngth.l Width.w Heigth.w XOrg.w YOrg.w nPlanes.b Masking.b Compression.b Pad1.b TransColour.w xAspect.b yAspect.b PageWidth.w PageHeigth.w End NEWTYPE NEWTYPE .camg Lngth.l ViewMode.l ; ??? End NEWTYPE ; Loads f$ into a memory block (only 1024 bytes loaded) Statement FormLoad {f$} SHARED FADDRESS.l key.l=Lock_(&f$,-2) If key>0 memt.l=AllocMem_(260,1) If memt>0 Examine_ key,memt FADDRESS=AllocMem_(1024,1) If FADDRESS>0 hand.l=Open_(&f$,1005) If hand>0 bytes.l=Read_(hand,FADDRESS,1024) Close_ hand Else FreeMem_ FADDRESS,1024 End If End If FreeMem_ memt,260 End If UnLock_ key End If End Statement ; Get opening bit from ILBM f$="Des:pics/Texture002.mres" If Exists(f$) FormLoad{f$} ;now lets display info DefaultOutput A.s="ILBM" Il.l=SearchString(&A,FADDRESS,250) If Il>0 NPrint "ILBM File" B.s="BMHD" : z.l=SearchString(&B,FADDRESS,1024) If z>0 NPrint "BMHD exists" NPrint "Length= ",Peek.l(z) : z+4 NPrint "H Size= ",Peek.w(z) : z+2 NPrint "V Size= ",Peek.w(z) : z+2 NPrint "Xorg = ",Peek.w(z) : z+2 NPrint "Yorg = ",Peek.w(z) : z+2 NPrint "Depth = ",Peek.b(z) EndIf B.s="CAMG" : z.l=SearchString(&B,FADDRESS,1024) If z>0 NPrint "CAMG exists" NPrint "Length= ",Peek.l(z) : z+4 NPrint "View ?? = ",Hex$(Peek.l(z)) EndIf EndIf MouseWait FreeMem_ FADDRESS,1024 EndIf End Any suggestions? ta Tom Duncan duncan@usq.edu.au From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 13 15:45:21 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA11935 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 15:45:11 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7679; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:43:01 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7677; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 15:43:01 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 0401; Wed, 13 Jul 94 02:10:50 EDT Message-Id: <13JUL94.02352140.0076.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 02:10:40 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: ScreenCopying MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO ALL: ---- There is something I am having problems with. CopyBitmap! Here is the situation: I have 2 screens. Exactly the same dimensions, each with Bitmaps that also are alike. I use the command: CopyBitmap 0,1 and I view screen 1 to see what hapenned. It copied screen 0, but it became all messed up! It was not positionned properly, there was some junk at the bottom. What could make it do that? I can't figure it out. Please help. Mr. Mig From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 11:36:26 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA25493 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:36:06 +0300 Received: from mailhost.aber.ac.uk (actually thorbb.dcs.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 14 Jul 1994 09:36:03 +0100 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: AutoScroll Screens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 09:35:59 +0100 Message-ID: <29056.774174959@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: Nigel Hughes X-Status: Status: RO Hello there, OK I have started writing another game, and guess what? It is quite original!!! Never seen it done anyway. I will send a demo on later, but I have a problem with the level editor I am writing for it... The screen I open (using ScreenTags) is 320x1024. The mouse pointer will not go down further than y coordinates 681! This make some of the operations of the editor VERY difficult. So OK I thought, I will set the autoscroll tag to true, but no joy, no autoscroll. I guess it has something to do with the display clip region, but eery time I try and allocate this structure (a real simple one too) I get a guru!!! Why I have no idea. Does anyone have a bit of source they can mail me, or let me know how I can get the pointer to go below 681? While I am here, I am getting close to completing the second version of ShapeZ, my shape editor/cutter/manipulator utility. I have basically made it much more robust than the last version, and now I want to add a load of features, one of which is a simple set of drawing tools to edit the currently loaded IFF and a suite of tools for editing shapes, is this a good idea or do you just want to set it up in a proper painting package lke Dpaint or Brilliance? Ho hum, roll on BUM7 and a few bug fixes for BB2, keep up the good work Acid, it's been fun so far. (Don't think of them as bugs, more as a challenge!!) You can get the old version of shapeZ from Aminet, it is in one of Mikos archieves. Nigel Hughes From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 02:54:15 1994 Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA10021 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 02:53:55 +0300 Received: from hareth (hareth.cm.deakin.edu.au [128.184.80.165]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA21897; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 09:52:44 +1000 From: Mark Kuzmycz Received: by hareth (5.0/client-1.3) id AA00470; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 09:52:42 --1000 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 09:52:42 --1000 Message-Id: <9407132352.AA00470@hareth> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Creating strings Cc: acid@iconz.co.nz X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII content-length: 1063 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hello fellow Blizers, I am currently creating a text editor for an Amiga guide generator. So far I have the basic text editor built. The problem is that when I load a one thousand line text file it takes 3 to 5 minutes on an Amiga 500. I currently use an edit(1024) to read a line in at a time. As you can see this time is unacceptable so I experimented to see how quickly I could count the number of lines (load the file in the buffer and search for asc 10) and found I could do this in less than one second. Since I can determine where each line end I would like to know how to create a string that is compatable with blitz strings. For example I know that the first workd of a Blitz string is the size and that the last Character is a null character. What I don't know is how do I place a string in a string variable? Do I need to allocate memory or are all strings allocated to the max string size (I don't think so). Also, is there a way to access the internal sting buffer as this could speed up the creation of a string. Thanks For your help Mark. From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 16:22:42 1994 Received: from magician.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (magician.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [192.135.232.64]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA06472 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 16:22:33 +0300 From: spi@dcs.qmw.ac.uk Received: from dcs.qmw.ac.uk by magician.dcs.qmw.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <8995-0@magician.dcs.qmw.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 14:21:52 +0100 Received: by it038.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (5.64/QMW-Minimal-1.14) id AA01373; Thu, 14 Jul 94 14:21:06 BST Message-Id: <9407141321.AA01373@it038.dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Subject: Blitz Guide To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 14:21:05 +0000 (BST) Cc: J.VALKS@hsbos.nl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL13] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > Acid software wrote.. > Yes please, I'd love to see the Guide, I trust there is no breach of > copyright... So would I if its not too much trouble Jurgen. regards, Steven Innell Email: spi@dcs.qmw.ac.uk From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 22:27:07 1994 Received: from helios.herts.ac.uk (helios.herts.ac.uk [146.97.32.61]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA20209 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 22:27:00 +0300 Received: from herts.ac.uk by helios.herts.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <22629-0@helios.herts.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 20:24:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 20:24:49 +0100 (BST) From: Matt Funnell Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO UNSUBSCRIBE From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 22:01:09 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA19281 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 22:00:35 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <18019-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 21:00:11 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19068; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 20:56:46 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 14 Jul 94 20:59:14 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 14 Jul 94 20:58:48 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 20:49:57 Subject: Serial Command problems X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <19ED5254261@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hiya guys, I have some strange problems with the Serial commands. I can't even open a port! I use this: OpenSerial "ser:",0,9600,0 When I run it I get a Syntax Error, so when I press help I get: OpenSerial device$,unit#,baud,io_serflags What's wrong??????????????????????? Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 22:30:04 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA20259 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 22:29:55 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <18350-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 21:29:52 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23961; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 21:26:28 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:28:56 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:28:48 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 21:20:01 Subject: Serial Prob. 2 X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <19F552A730E@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Yep, it's me again. I tried this: Wbstartup Nprint "GO!" If SerialOpen("ser:",0,9600,0) Nprint "OK!" CloseSerial 0 Else Nprint "Wrong!" EndIf MouseWait:End Blitz prints GO! and then my computer isn't responding to anything anymore.....Great commands! Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 15 02:18:59 1994 Received: from cix.compulink.co.uk (tom.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA27260 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 02:18:42 +0300 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by cix.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA21507 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 00:16:42 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 00:17 BST-1 From: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Kennedy) Subject: RE: Serial Port problems To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Reply-To: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi Jurgen, >I use this: OpenSerial "ser:",0,9600,0 I think you are confusing what is meant by device$. What it actually means is the system device which you are opening to talk to the serial port, (erm, not really making myself clear am I :-( time for an example) It should be ok=OpenSerial("serial.device",0,9600,0) (warning, the name of the device is case sensitive !) Or possibly ok=OpenSerial("BaudBandit.device",0,9600,0) if you have baudbandit to control your serial comms. Here's a working example ok=OpenSerial("serial.device",0,9600,0) If ok NPrint "Yippee It worked" Else NPrint "Oh Bugger, no it didn't" End If ClickMouse CloseSerial 0 Hope this make things clearer.. Graham K. From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 16 00:31:14 1994 Received: from alsvid.scu.edu.au (alsvid.scu.edu.au [203.2.33.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA07815 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 00:30:34 +0300 Received: by alsvid.scu.edu.au id AA24238 (5.65c8+/IDA-1.4.4 for helsinki.fi!blitz-list); Sat, 16 Jul 1994 07:30:24 +1000 Received: by wnet.edex.edu.au with UUCP (\/<>\/ SmailAmiga 1.02j21) id ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:26:07 +1000 Received: by fulink.edex.edu.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <00ox@fulink.edex.edu.au>; Fri, 15 Jul 94 11:44:09 +1000 Message-Id: <9407152144.00ox@fulink.edex.edu.au> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 11:44:09 +1000 From: mike@fulink.edex.edu.au (Mike Hall) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO help From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 15 10:55:03 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA08804 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 10:54:43 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 10:54:11 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 10:54:01 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 10:53:38 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:58:49 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:58:32 +0300 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:58:32 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<8C4A397DF4@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: To Steve (l)map. Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: <8C4A397DF4@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: To Steve (mapeditor) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi Steve, I finally got around to testing the recent version of the mapeditor you sent me at the start of the week (sorry for the delay), but I have run into major problems. When I run it, select create map, then supply the shapes filename, it pops up with a nifty dialog box whilst loading the shapes, and then I press okay when its finished. Now however, the mapeditor is hung. The system doesn't crash or anything, but the mapeditor doesn't respond to any menu selections, mouse or keyboard presses etc 8( Help! +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 15 10:29:13 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA07891 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 10:27:49 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <25432-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 09:27:40 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA35650; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 09:24:16 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 15 Jul 94 9:26:45 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 15 Jul 94 9:26:25 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 09:26:17 GMT-1DFT Subject: BPR X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: <1AB4B6258F5@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO BPR - Blitz Project Report #7 updated: 15-07-91 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please notice the place when you upload a project when it's completed or ready for beta testing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Nigel Hughes EMAIL : nlh1@aber.uk.ac PROJECT : Tetris Duel [AGA 2 Player Tetris With 6 Specials] STATUS : Shareware Version on Aminet in /game/think/ Tetris_Duel.lha. Registered version 95% complete PROJECT : Hall Of Champions (AGA beat 'em up) STATUS : 30% complete (need MORE graphics) PROJECT : U.F.O Force (CD-ROM AGA Stratergy Extravaganza) STATUS : Design and story boarding stage PROJECT : Shapez, Blitz shape grabber and manipulator STATUS : Version 1.00 complete, should be on Aminet (Mikko?) Version : 2.00 50% complete -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : SgtBilko (Mark Tiffany) EMAIL : As above or PHY93003@bham.ac.uk (my mail server sometimes refuses mail that goes to either of them!) PROJECT : Virtual Worlds STATUS : As of 28/6/94, V1.011 now available -> Editor 99% complete. It all works, but more _WILL_ be added. Note: NO Interpreter. Interpreter is still about 25% complete and will be available October `94 (roughly). DESCRIP.: Adventure Creation System, mainly for text adventures with still graphics, support for Monkey Island style adventures to be implemented once main features are complete. AVAIL. : dev/misc/VirtualWorlds1_011.lha on aminet PROJECT : Virtual Software Include Libraries STATUS : 28/6/94 ToolTypes,ASL,TextEntry supported. Constantly(ish) updated. DESCRIP.: A few include files that give some nice features for your progs. AVAIL. : dev/basic/VS-Includes.lha on aminet --------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Jurgen Valks EMAIL : j.valks@hsbos.nl PROJECT : Hero 2049 DESCRIP.: A C64 conversion of Hero but with more hightech & special weapons. STATUS : About 30%, I have found a active graphic artists at last! PROJECT : Blitz2 AmigaGuide file STATUS : Ready. Mail me if you want it. PROJECT : FastLink DESCRIP.: A file transfer util for Amiga<->Amiga or Amiga<->PC STATUS : 1% -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Michael Cooper EMAIL : mcc@met.ed.ac.uk PROJECT : Mr. Zen (Platform/God sim kind of game) STATUS : 25% completed -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : David Marshall EMAIL : D.P.Marshall@durham.ac.uk PROJECT : Outline Font Editor STATUS : 40% finished -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : William Nolan EMAIL : wn22@cmu.edu PROJECT : Commando Raid (vertical scrolling shoot em up, scrolls downwards, not up like most) STATUS : 100% complete. This game is now available on Aminet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Martin Kift EMAIL : M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk PROJECT : StarWoids DESCRIP.: Thinking mans shoot'em up (based on classic game 'Oids') STATUS : Demo version is completed, and will be uploaded to various ftp sites (including aminet) in the next few days. Work has now started on the complete (shareware) version, and should be complete in a couple of months. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Paul Reece EMAIL : preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au PROJECT : Porting my AMOS music extension to Blitz2. STATUS : Version 1.2 is COMPLETE!! Features PT routines, Sampling, TFMX and MORE!! If you are interested in BetaTesting, please email me at paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au with your system details etc. and I'll think about it... :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Peter Sandberg EMAIL : sand@gfl.se PROJECT : SpaceMan, An isometric-labyrinth-shoot'em up STATUS : Ready for alfa-testing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Keith Suddick EMAIL : Keith.Suddick@Northumbria.AC.UK PROJECT : Wriggly II DESCRIP.: Maze/puzzle game - written for Blitz competition STATUS : 80% completed, but currently in a working state -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-33 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 15 10:29:10 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA07901 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 10:28:53 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <25454-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 09:28:40 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23886; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 09:25:16 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 15 Jul 94 9:27:45 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 15 Jul 94 9:27:25 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 09:27:17 GMT-1DFT Subject: Cya X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: <1AB4F9C2D1E@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hello all, Well I have vacation now, 5 weeks! Yes! Now I can work on my projects. You can still contact me, I can mail at home too, so: HAVE A NICE VACATION ALL! Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-33 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 15 16:32:03 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA20547 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 16:31:57 +0300 From: "HADL60::\"hadmo\""@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HEQJGXTGGG0021SP@email.meto.govt.uk>; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:29:12 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:29:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: EML libs WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HEQJGXW4WI0021SP@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO Could some kind person (or unkind - I'm not fussy) mail me a copy of the EML (?) libs (for playing MODS/MEDS or whatever). Many many thanks, Matt. modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 15 17:06:04 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA22323 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 17:05:46 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 17:05:40 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 17:05:09 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 17:05:03 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:10:14 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:09:47 +0300 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:09:47 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<927A4D6618@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Game problems Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: <927A4D6618@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Game problems X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO After releasing my game last week, I've had a few problems reported by people who are running on ntsc machines which baffle me. Firstly, I have in my code a section which calls CloseWorkbench, and it does this in a loop of 50, which I took from lots of blitz examples, including the Acid defender game I think. However, on some machines, this causes workbench to close, reappear, close, reappear 50 times until it finally closes down and the game starts!!!! 8( Also, on some machines, when my game opens up a PAL screen to run the game, when it closes down, it leaves wb in PAL mode, and doesn't return to ntsc mode in which wb was originally. I don't see either of these two problems on my machine, even when I run in many wierd screen modes like multisync or super72. Can anybody help me? +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 15 16:25:54 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA20408 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 16:24:17 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <01833-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 15:24:09 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18334; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 15:20:45 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 15 Jul 94 15:23:14 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 15 Jul 94 15:23:08 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 15:14:26 Subject: Serial X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <1B13D831534@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi, Yep, it's me again. I hooked up a PC with a terminal program to my Amiga with a nullmodem cable. Try this one: WbStartup If OpenSerial("serial.device",0,9600,0) WriteSerialString 0,"Now testing..." SerialClose 0 Else Nprint "Can't open Serial.Device" End MouseWait:End The only thing that happend is that the first 2 letters of the string appears on the screen (of the PC). I tried my terminal program I ever wrote in A**S and it worked great! No problems at all. What the hell am I doing wrong???????? Maybe somebody from Acid has a idea? P.S. I tried using the SetSerialLens commands, but it doesn't change anything to my problems... Hear'ya, I hope.... Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 15 19:34:44 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA28255 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 19:34:23 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <06025-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:34:03 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31161; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:30:38 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 15 Jul 94 18:33:08 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 15 Jul 94 18:32:52 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:24:14 Subject: Serial solution Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <1B467285125@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hiya, Yep again..... Well I found a solution to my problem. I have to put a Vwait in my listing before sending the string. This works.... Cya Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 16 20:01:26 1994 Received: from ibmPCUG.CO.UK (Alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK [192.68.174.71]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA05208 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 20:01:02 +0300 Received: from centron.com by alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK id aa14454; 16 Jul 94 18:00 BST Received: by centron.com (GIGO 0.99 pl1) id AA00677; 16 Jul 94 17:27:52 +0000 From: Robert Newman Date: 15 Jul 94 21:00:26 +0000 Subject: Re: Serial Message-ID: <4fe_9407161727@centron.com> Organization: Centronics BBS X-Mail-Agent: GIGO+ sn 88 at centron vsn 0.99 pl1 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO On 15-Jul-94 "j.valks" wrote : > Try this one: > > WbStartup > If OpenSerial("serial.device",0,9600,0) > WriteSerialString 0,"Now testing..." > SerialClose 0 > Else > Nprint "Can't open Serial.Device" > End > MouseWait:End > > The only thing that happend is that the first 2 letters of the string > appears on the screen (of the PC). I think your closing the serial.device too soon and not giving enough time for the string to be sent. Move CloseSerial to the end of your program. Rob. (robert.newman@frontier.centron.com) ============================================================================ | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. | | Gated @ Centronics BBS [centron.com] - +44-473-273246 VFC/V32Ter/HST/Fax | ============================================================================ From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 16 15:49:48 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA29298 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 15:48:51 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 15:48:46 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 15:48:37 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 15:47:01 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 16:52:12 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 16:51:40 +0300 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 16:51:40 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: PAL screens Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: PAL screens X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi all, I am in desperate need of somehow getting my blitz game to boot into a pal screen (it uses blitz mode and slices). Currently, if the game is run on true NTSC screens, my game opens up slices which are pal in height but nevertheless NTSC screens. Although I'm considering adding true NTSC support to my game, in the mean-time I want to force the game to use PAL, regardless of the resolution that workbench is running at (if I don't all the timing is seriously screwed). Since I could see no option in the slice command to do this, I tracked down a function called ForcePal. However, this is unsatisfactory since it seems a tade unrealiable, and it sometimes seriously fucks up when exiting my game back to WB, especially when WB is running in nopal resolutions, with a number of other apps running on their own private screens. It looks like ForcePal shunts the entire system over the PAL (I may be wrong), whereas all I really want is to open up my own slice/screen in true PAL mode. Is this possible (I hope so)??????????????????????? +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 16 17:32:14 1994 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA01673 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 17:31:21 +0300 From: MyxxMatch@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA06723 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 07:32:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.53) id HAA29277 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 07:32:41 -0700 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: variables Lines: 19 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 07:32:41 PDT Message-ID: <9407160732.1.27150@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO I am trying to find a way to save variable data to disk. Right now I am doing it the old fashioned way... my variable is variable(20,20) I use a loop to write it to a file sequentially. CanDo allows for saving a variable and I was wondering if there was a way to achieve this with BB because reading just a 20,20 array is taking too long. Actually...saving isn't as important speed wise as is reading the data. MyxxMatch (Jeffrey S. Morgan & Kristin Morgan) ***Need a High School English Teacher starting in June 1994?*** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Argue your limitations and sure enough, they're yours. R. Bach ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 08:15:39 1994 Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.220.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA29106 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 08:15:33 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id HAA29330; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 07:15:32 +0200 Received: by xs.multi.se (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0m27@xs.multi.se>; Sun, 24 Jul 94 00:59:37 MET Received: by tfd.multi.se (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <09wv@tfd.multi.se>; Sat, 16 Jul 94 21:05:34 MET Message-Id: <9407162005.09wv@tfd.multi.se> Date: 16 Jul 94 16:18:39 CET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: The Fourth Dimension, Gråbo, Sweden X-Mailer: AmiGate 0.16a (7.3.94) From: mats@tfd.multi.se (Mats Persson) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Some simple questions for YOU... X-Status: Status: RO Hi All! I just got my Blitz 2 package and have some questions for you: Where is the Intuition Planner they keep talking about? Was it on a BUM? I couldn't find it in my package. I want it!!! How do you subscribe to BUMs? How much is it? Per year or what? There was no info at all in my package about this. I got BUM 1-5 in compressed format. Is the address for sending the registration card still valid? Mine says: Acid Software, Unit 15, Guildhall Ind. Est., Kirk Sandall, Doncaster, South Yorkshire, DN3 1 QR. Thanks in advance! ================================================================ Mats Persson *Fido*: 2:203/319.9 *AmigaNet*: 39:160/306.9 *Internet*: mats@tfd.multi.se From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 16 19:31:06 1994 Received: from sashimi.wwa.com (sashimi.wwa.com [198.49.174.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA04401 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 19:30:56 +0300 Received: by sashimi.wwa.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0qPCeX-000bn7C; Sat, 16 Jul 94 11:31 CDT Received: by alpha.IXO.COM (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0p42@alpha.IXO.COM>; Sat, 16 Jul 94 17:09:01 CET Message-ID: Date: 16 Jul 94 17:10:09 CET Organization: Alpha Station BBS - 011/333528, Diepenbeek, BELGIUM X-Mailer: AmiGate 0.17e (27.6.94) From: stef@alpha.IXO.COM (Stephan Kortleven) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: New MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi everybody, I am a new user of this list. I have followed this list a couple off days and must say i'm impressed. I hope i can ask here some couple off questions i am wondering about a hole time. But first some information of me. I have buyed blitz some time ago and i love to work with it. I'm 25 years young and have followed the Amiga since the first A500 came out. First trying to find my way in AmigaBasic but i have to put this in the trahcan very soon. Then Hisoft-Basic cames out. But after a while with the new 2.+ roms i have to put that in the trashcan to.;-) And now with BlitzII a hole new World opens. Thanx to the creators ! I have currently a A2000 + 9 meg + 2.1 rom + Turbo 68030 25 Mhz + a GVP controler with syquest 105 meg and a Quatum 105 meg. Recently i have A1200 to, with 50 meg AT HD 3.5inch for just testing on 3.0 and AGA. Currently i am working on a filerequester voor points ! Not some easy requester but a hole program of recently 150kb that takes a lot work off a point out his hands.;-) So, you see i am more interested in the Blitz Amiga modes. I think to upload this prog in one mond, if everything comes right ! It's the first time i am using E-mail, and hope everything i am doing now is fine. So, if somebody would confirm this, i presiate it. Thanx ! From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 16 21:27:17 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA07522 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 21:27:08 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <18542-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 20:26:43 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31033; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 20:22:46 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 16 Jul 94 20:25:25 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 16 Jul 94 20:24:33 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 19:35:42 Subject: BlitzGuide Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <1CE446540A8@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi, To Acid: 1) What do you think of the guide? 2) What about converting the manual to AmigaGuide ???? 3) And including all the BUM magazines & new commands ???? Just say it..... Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 16 22:23:26 1994 Received: from cix.compulink.co.uk (tom.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA08909 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 22:23:14 +0300 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by cix.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA05688 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 20:21:11 +0100 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 20:20 BST-1 From: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Kennedy) Subject: RE:Serial Problem To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Reply-To: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > Well I found a solution to my problem. I have to put a Vwait in my > listing before sending the string. This works.... Nice one, but do you have to Vwait everytime you send a string ? I resorted to sending strings one byte at a time using WriteSerial instead, as this seemed to be much more reliable. Watch out for the ReadSerial bug (I've described the fix in an earlier message, but if anyone needs the fix, let me know). For those that don't know the ReadSerial command returns a byte instead of a word so, if you send a char(255) into blitz the command reports it as -1 (ie. no data waiting) even if you take the advice and assign the result to a .w variable. Appologies if people have this message twice, it didn't appear to get to the list first time round. Graham K. From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 17 00:10:35 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA11535 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 00:10:24 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7862; Sun, 17 Jul 94 00:08:57 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7861; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 00:08:57 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 5404; Sat, 16 Jul 94 17:09:46 EDT Message-Id: <16JUL94.18535396.0087.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 17:09:44 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Screens & Bitmaps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO To: Everyone. Well, no one answered my last message about Screen Copying. Fine. So, let's see if anyone is nice enough to answer this one: True or False: You NEED a Screen in order to have a Bitmap. If this is FALSE, then I am lost, please explain WHY it's false. If this is TRUE, then I'm on track, but how do I inhibit the user from pressing Left-Amiga-M to switch screens? BLITZ mode right? But in Blitz mode, we can't use screens, or bring other screens to the front of the display etc... So how do I go about it? Nelson Santos From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 17 00:11:52 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA11560 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 00:11:47 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7868; Sun, 17 Jul 94 00:10:19 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7867; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 00:10:20 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 5418; Sat, 16 Jul 94 17:11:12 EDT Message-Id: <16JUL94.18560913.0238.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 17:11:09 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: IRC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hey, by the way, do we have a BLITZ BASIC ][ IRC channel anywhere? That would be a good idea, dontcha think? Instant help! Nelson Santos From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 17 00:20:53 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA11854 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 00:20:34 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <19597-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 23:20:28 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31016; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 23:17:02 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 16 Jul 94 23:19:35 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 16 Jul 94 23:19:25 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 23:10:25 Subject: Records Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <1D12E8F6B87@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Can somebody tell me why this crashes my computer total and even a reset doesn't work? If OpenFile(0,"s:startup-sequence") Maxlen in$,30 Fields 0,in$ Get 0,0 DefaultOutput Nprint in$ CloseFile 0 EndIf MouseWait:End If I do this with a program (I tried diskmaster II) it seems to work..... I want to make a simple program what uses a string variabel as a buffer for copying a file, somebody made it allready???? Cya Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 17 02:58:09 1994 Received: from ns.gte.com (ns.gte.com [132.197.8.9]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA14404 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 02:57:38 +0300 Received: from bunny.gte.com by ns.gte.com (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4) id AA28621; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 19:23:00 -0400 Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.19) id AA03509; Sat, 16 Jul 94 19:24:27 -0400 Received: from localhost by genesis.nred.ma.us (8.3/genesis0.0) id RAA12466; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 17:17:19 -0700 From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo) Message-Id: <199407170017.RAA12466@genesis.nred.ma.us> Subject: Hey sign me up To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 17:17:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: A Status: RO Could you subscribe me to the list? From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 18 08:56:25 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA25910 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:56:18 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8683; Mon, 18 Jul 94 08:54:49 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8680; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:54:49 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 7294; Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:10:48 EDT Message-Id: <16JUL94.23954013.0085.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:10:46 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Records MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO >If OpenFile(0,"s:startup-sequence") > Maxlen in$,30 > Fields 0,in$ > Get 0,0 > DefaultOutput > Nprint in$ > CloseFile 0 >EndIf >MouseWait:End > Hiya. Well, the only thing that I can see wrong with this program is in the second line 'Maxlen in$,30' should be 'Maxlen in$=30'. One other thing that I'm concerned about is openning a text file as a random access file. Shouldn't you use sequencial access? Try it out, this little program should not be that much of a problem. From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 18 08:56:27 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA25912 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:56:20 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8685; Mon, 18 Jul 94 08:54:49 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8681; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:54:49 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 7300; Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:12:25 EDT Message-Id: <16JUL94.23983009.0085.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:12:23 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Records MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO >If OpenFile(0,"s:startup-sequence") > Maxlen in$,30 > Fields 0,in$ > Get 0,0 > DefaultOutput > Nprint in$ > CloseFile 0 >EndIf >MouseWait:End > Hiya. Well, the only thing that I can see wrong with this program is in the second line 'Maxlen in$,30' should be 'Maxlen in$=30'. One other thing that I'm concerned about is openning a text file as a random access file. Shouldn't you use sequencial access? Try it out, this little program should not be that much of a problem. From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 18 09:37:46 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA27823 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 09:37:35 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1987; Mon, 18 Jul 94 09:36:05 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 1983; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 09:16:07 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 7379; Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:21:09 EDT Message-Id: <16JUL94.24140249.0085.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:21:07 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: A possible bug? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hello all. Can someone please tell me why this program isn't working? BLITZ QAMIGA If ReadFile(0,"Ram:Test") FileInput 0 Hello$ = Edit$(10) ;A quick visit into AMIGA mode. CloseFile 0 DefaultInput EndIf BLITZ BitMap 0,320,200,5 Slice 0,44,320,200,$fff8,5,8,32,320,320 Use BitMap 0 : Show 0 BlitzKeys On BitMapOutput 0 BitMapInput While Joyb(0) = 0 : Print Inkey$ : Wend As you guys can see, I turn Blitz mode on, then I take a quick visit into QAMIGA and read a word from a file in Ram ("Hello!") Then I go back into Blitz mode setting DefaultInput back on. Then I set up a screen and a slice and prepared the bitmap to read and write data to it using BitMapOutput and BitMapInput. Then I go into a loop reading data from the keyboard. But I get an error: "Can't input character from default input" But how can that be? I switched to BitmapInput!!! If I completely remove the QAMIGA routine, it works just fine! So, what is going on? Did I find a BUG???? Please HELP! It will be impossible to make any games or programs which require me to read a file in AMIGA mode and then get input from a bitmap in BLITZ mode! This is not very productive! Thanks to anyone for the HELP! I NEED it! ^^^^ Nelson Santos -Mr. Mig From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 17 12:34:49 1994 Received: from cix.compulink.co.uk (tom.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA27297 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 12:34:22 +0300 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by cix.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA28954 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 10:32:20 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 94 10:31 BST-1 From: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Kennedy) Subject: String/filecopy To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Reply-To: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO To: Jurgen > Can somebody tell me why this crashes my computer total and even a > reset doesn't work? Guru's mine as well, can't give you a reason though. > I want to make a simple program what uses a string variabel as a > buffer for copying a file, somebody made it allready???? I think this is what you are after, does the job nicely (don't know how big blitz strings can be though, so may crash if a file is too big, with a bit of work you could split the file into manageable chunks and use the same command) If OpenFile(0,"s:startup-sequence") FileInput 0 in$=Inkey$(Lof(0)) DefaultOutput NPrint in$ CloseFile 0 EndIf MouseWait:End ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Nelson > Well, no one answered my last message about Screen Copying. If you want to post a bit of example code, I'll see if I can work out what is going on. > True or False: You NEED a Screen in order to have a Bitmap. Erm, not too well up on this myself, but as far as I know a bitmap can exist without a screen, as you can create a bitmap, draw on it, then attach it to a screen. In BLITZ mode this can be displayed as is. In amiga mode I think it has to be attached to a screen. > If this is FALSE, then I am lost, please explain WHY it's false. Dunno > but how do I inhibit the user from pressing Left-Amiga-M to switch > screens? BLITZ mode right? > But in Blitz mode, we can't use screens, or bring other screens > to the front of the display etc... So how do I go about it? I havn't used blitz mode (I tend to stick to intuition etc) but as far as I am aware all the stuff you need is to do with manipulating the slices, but any further than that is beyond me. Graham K. From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 17 13:25:33 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA28461 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 13:25:24 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <23523-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 12:25:21 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA38207; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 12:21:54 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 17 Jul 94 12:24:28 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 17 Jul 94 12:24:13 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 12:15:08 Subject: How long?? Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <1DE437231B3@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO What's the maximum length of a string? I can't find it in the books.... Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 17 17:34:30 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA04137 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 17:33:36 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <24575-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 16:33:31 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA37996; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 16:30:03 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:32:38 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:32:14 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 16:23:06 Subject: Sending Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <1E265C87BBD@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi all, I'll need your help. I'm writing a program what reads binary(!) data from the serial port. This data is send by a PC and can be a program , IFF pictures, etc. The size of the data is everytime 80 chars. What I need is a good way to handle this data. How do I write the data to a file ??? I tried this simpele program to test: If OpenFile(0,"hd0:dm2") If OpenFile(1,"ram:test") MaxLen buf$=80 l.l=Lof(0) whole.l=l/80 rest.l=l MOD 80 MaxLen rest$=rest For tel.l=1 To whole FileInput 0 buf$=Edit$(80) FileOutput 1 Print buf$; Next tel FileInput 0 rest$=Edit$(rest) FileOutput 1 Print rest$; CloseFile 1 CloseFile 0 EndIf EndIf DefaultOutput NPrint "Done..." MouseWait:End But it doesn't work! the final size is smaller! I think it has something to do with the 'strange' ascii characters in the file. I made the program on the PC side in Visual Basic and it has a good file handling because you can choose between several file modes in one command. If you use the binary mode, you have to define a string variabel as a buffer. But how do I do this in Blitz! PLEASE HELP, MAYBE SOMEBODY FROM ACID ??????????????????????? Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 17 19:32:15 1994 Received: from sashimi.wwa.com (sashimi.wwa.com [198.49.174.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA07001 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 19:31:50 +0300 Received: by sashimi.wwa.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0qPZ8v-000bmJC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 11:32 CDT Received: by alpha.IXO.COM (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0p82@alpha.IXO.COM>; Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:29:27 CET Message-ID: Date: 17 Jul 94 16:29:02 CET Organization: Alpha Station BBS - 011/333528, Diepenbeek, BELGIUM X-Mailer: AmiGate 0.17e (27.6.94) From: stef@alpha.IXO.COM (Stephan Kortleven) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Blitz Crash MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hallo Everybody, Does anybody knows why a compiled blitz source crashs when it was started from Dopus. As soon it meets de command Wbstartup it's going to hang. Is this still a bug from Blitz ? I'm using currently Blitz2 relase 1.0 Bum5. GURU NUMBER: 87000004: Deadend Alert DESCRIPTION (dos): AN_AsyncPkt: Unexpected packet received RECOVERY SUGGESTION: If it's supposed to be a workbench program, some workbench startup-code is required. Removing the Wbstartup command is not a solution to me. I wanna to start my prog from wb. The grazy thing about this is it will start from cli and workbench ? From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 17 17:52:37 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA04646 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 17:52:22 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <24659-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 16:52:19 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31265; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 16:48:51 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:51:26 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:51:22 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 16:42:08 Subject: Sending, solved Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <1E2B762474B@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO YES! I found it: If OpenFile(0,"hd0:dm2") If OpenFile(1,"ram:test") l.l=Lof(0) For tel.l=1 To l FileInput 0 n$=Inkey$ FileOutput 1 Print n$ Next tel EndIf CloseFile 1 CloseFile 0 EndIf DefaultOutput NPrint "Done..." MouseWait:End This works!!!! Cya Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 18 01:35:20 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA15854 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 01:34:50 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA15272 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:34:02 -1000 Message-Id: <199407181834.AA15272@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: Iff loading etc. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:30:26 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi all. I am having a problem with loading IFF iamges into screens. When I load into a screen I get an anoying flash on the current screen. Any ideas anyone. Also has anyone found a QUICKER IFF loader. Speed is of the essence with my project and it gets realy bogged down with the current loader. Here is a listing of my loader. Any ideas anyone? ; load or initialise a screen into S USEPATH Events() If Len(\_File)>0 ; Load image ILBMInfo \_File w.w=ILBMWidth h.w=ILBMHeight d.w=ILBMDepth Id.l=ILBMViewMode Free Window S : Free Screen S : Free BitMap S : Free GadgetList S BitMap S,w,h,d Screen S,0,800,w,h,d,Id,"",1,2,S HideScreen S ; Now Open Window onto Screen Window S,0,0,w,h,$0900,"",1,2 LoadScreen S,\_File,S Use Palette S OK.b=True MoveScreen S,0,-800 Else OK.b=False EndIf Thanks in advance Tom Duncan duncan@usq.edu.au From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 18 17:42:02 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA16948 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:41:51 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:41:46 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:41:23 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:41:07 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 18:46:18 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 18:46:10 +0300 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 18:46:10 +0300 X400-Originator: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: ToSteve (l)mape. Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Martin Kift Message-ID: To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: ToSteve (mapeditor) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi Steve, Hows the mapeditor coming. Did you get my mail about the bug in the last version? I can't wait to have a working version. 8) How long did it take to write the mapeditor out of interest? I'm thinking of adding a leveleditor into my game, which will be a sort of combined mapeditor and level designer (specifing various map variables). Fancy creating a cut-down version of your program for inclusion in my package, may earn you a few pennies 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 18 19:58:05 1994 Received: from sashimi.wwa.com (sashimi.wwa.com [198.49.174.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA22480 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:57:46 +0300 Received: by sashimi.wwa.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0qPw1E-000bmHC; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:58 CDT Received: by alpha.IXO.COM (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0pca@alpha.IXO.COM>; Mon, 18 Jul 94 16:07:24 CET Message-ID: Date: 18 Jul 94 16:07:06 CET Organization: Alpha Station BBS - 011/333528, Diepenbeek, BELGIUM X-Mailer: AmiGate 0.17e (27.6.94) From: stef@alpha.IXO.COM (Stephan Kortleven) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Blitz Crash MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO In a message of 18 Jul 94 Acid Software wrote to me: AS> Are you saying your program runs from Dopus if you do NOT include AS> WBStartUP? Yes, not including wbstartup and removing the icon will work fine from Dopus. Including the icon again have as result dopus will try to start the program like you start from Wb. Result Crash. Including Wbstartup again results to the same problem, crash. And my prog works fine from cli en wb without any problems ?? I'm always testing out PD for our organisation AUGFL (Amiga Users Group Flanders) and have never any problem doing this from Dopus. So i don't think it's a problem (bug) from Dopus. These 5 lines will give directly a crash from Dopus WBStartup AMIGA NoCli CloseEd End GURU NUMBER: 87000004: Deadend Alert DESCRIPTION (dos): AN_AsyncPkt: Unexpected packet received RECOVERY SUGGESTION: If it's supposed to be a workbench program, some workbench startup-code is required. Is there maybe something i have still to include to don't have this problem ? From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 06:21:31 1994 Received: from zeus ([139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA13302 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 06:21:11 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA12417 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 19 Jul 1994 13:18:06 -1000 Message-Id: <199407192318.AA12417@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: Screen Flash Problem To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 13:14:25 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO OK guys, I know this must be easy but how do I stop the screen flashing when I load in an image onto another hidden screen. I have tried moving the screen down out of the way but the flash still happens. Here is the code. WBStartup NoCli S.b=2 For a=1 To 20 f$="CDX:Temp/F/1.lres" Gosub Action19 ShowScreen S : VWait 100 f$="CDX:Temp/F/2.mres" Gosub Action19 : VWait 100 ShowScreen S Next End Action19: ; Load Screen S=5-S ; load or initialise a screen into S If Len(f$)>0 AND Exists(f$) ; Load image ILBMInfo f$ w.w=ILBMWidth h.w=ILBMHeight d.w=ILBMDepth Id.l=ILBMViewMode Free Window S : Free Screen S : Free BitMap S BitMap S,w,h,d Screen S,0,0,w,h,d,Id,"",1,2,S PalRGB S,0,0,0,0 HideScreen S ; Now Open Window onto Screen Window S,0,0,w,h,$0900,"",1,2,S LoadScreen S,f$,S Use Palette S OK.b=True Else r=Request("ERROR","Cant open file "+f$,"BYE") : End OK.b=False EndIf Return Any ideas anyone And any quicker ways to load an IFF image. Tom Duncan duncan@usq.edu.au From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 02:44:48 1994 Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au ([128.184.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA06546 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 02:44:36 +0300 Received: from hareth (hareth.cm.deakin.edu.au [128.184.80.165]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA22885 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:43:16 +1000 From: Mark Kuzmycz Received: by hareth (5.0/client-1.3) id AA00909; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:43:15 --1000 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:43:15 --1000 Message-Id: <9407182343.AA00909@hareth> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: How long?? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII content-length: 405 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO >> >>What's the maximum length of a string? I can't find it in the >>books.... > >Sorry if you've already found this out but: > > Blitz stores a longword string length before every string in memory. I >assume therefore that the max length is going to be 2^32. The maximum length of a string is defined in the compiler options (resources). It should be about 10024 (That's what mine is anyway). Mark. From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 14:02:40 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA28741 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:02:04 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <12815-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:54:35 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 9:59:46 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 9:59:23 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:59:16 GMT0BST Subject: Bugs etc, and some display questions Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi all (and Acid too), I have had various bug reports on my game, and while one or two of them are obvious bugs in my code, some of them at first appear to be either bugs or deficiencies in blitz itself. I may be wrong on one or two of them (so don't flame) me, I'm just trying to chase solutions to my problems, buts heres a few of them: 1. My game does not boot from os3.1 (reported by other people, I can't test cos I only have 3.0). I think it causes a system crash. Also (as reported in other letters), running from DOpus causes a similar crash, maybe they are related. 2. I cannot find away to force open a pal screen screen when using slices, which is important when running on an ntsc system. Eventually I'd like to open a proper ntsc screen and support it properly, but in the meantime, I'd like to open a pal screen. Hmm, I thought there was more than that, maybe my memory is going 8) Heres a couple of questions tho, maybe you can help me on these: 1. How do I change rgb values in displays (the new display library, replacement for slices). Do I use the slice rgb command (doubt it?), or is there a command I've missed. 2. When programming in the display library, I understand I create some copper lists (using InitCopList) and then call CreateDisplay. What happens if I want to dump that display and create another, probably based on a different coplist. (e.g. in my game, I go from a 2slice dp screen, to a full screen slice for the endscreens, etc, back to 2slice dp screen etc). Also, for this situation, do I have to initialise 3 cop lists (2 for the game screens and 1 for the endscreen, even tho this is not used until the end), since I understand this will take up a lot of memory. With slices,, I can delete and create them as the game runs, but I can't see similar functions to do this under displaylibs. Thanks for your time. P.S. Any release dates available for BUM7? Any chances of fixes for the debugger (have you considered the possiblity of remote debugging, that would be beautiful!!), the sound/caches problem. Thanks. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 14:30:01 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA29827 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:29:53 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <14911-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 12:29:42 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 12:34:52 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 12:34:28 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 12:34:24 GMT0BST Subject: Re: R U receiving us? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO To Steve: Msg received!!! 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 15:53:50 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA03654 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:53:43 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <15620-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 13:53:33 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:58:44 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:58:21 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 13:58:15 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Bugs etc, and some display questions Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > oh god here we go again, another bloody rom, is that the one in CD32, we > have had no problems with cd32 ports of Blitz games so far, perhaps > bigger vwaits between closing files and entering Blitz mode is required? No, I don't think the CD32 has 3.1 (I think it has 3.0 with cd extensions). Only the a4000T has 3.1, although kick3.1/wb3.1 has just been released, which is why I'm getting these reports. Bloody annoying I know, in a way, the amiga is getting almost as bad as the pc in terms of compatibilty. > > 2. I cannot find away to force open a pal screen screen when using > > slices, which is important when running on an ntsc system. Eventually > > I'd like to open a proper ntsc screen and support it properly, but in > > the meantime, I'd like to open a pal screen. > > This is very tricky if you want to support workbench startup ie 1942 > style monitors and take over the system type startups, the switch lib > looks at a location in graphics library to work out NTSC/PAL and hits > slices accordingly, can you not start your program by using an > openscreentags with some sort of pal config, hmm probably not, tell you > what I'll go and fix this problem instead of waffling on... Currently, I'm only interested in opening pal or ntsc low res (15khz) screens for my game. As I said, I would love a way of specifying PAL screens in the slice command, although this would only work on all machines if a PAL screen is possible (some old NTSC machines don't support this, but I'm not too bothered with that). Actually, I intend to switch over to using the Display library (especially since I hear you used it for SkidMarks), since I remember reading that it supports aga and ecs. Will it will possible to specify PAL screens in the new display library too, that would be excellent! > At present you have to change them in the palette using agapalrgb and > then do a DisplayPalette Okay, although is it true that you can only use agapalrgb in amiga mode. I assume palrgb will also work fine. Any chance of a display rgb command in future? > No, coplists do not take up very much memory at all. the great thing > about having them all allocated at the top of your program is that memory > is not fragmented, in skid for example we had all sorts of bitmaps > openning and closing, if you go and allocate a small piece of memory > anywhere between these calls you suddenly find you have not got enough > continuous memory for the big bitmap... hmmm, again sorry about the waffle... Ah excellent! And you can waffle all you like, I'm finding it very interesting 8), since the display docs are somewhat brief at the moment. Just one more question, if switching displays, say moving from a display based on coplists 0 and 1, to a display based on 2 and 3 (or whatever), do I just call CreateDisplay over and over again when switching. i.e. is there no need to close down the previous display before creating a new one? (I assume not). > > P.S. Any release dates available for BUM7? Any chances of fixes for > > the debugger (have you considered the possiblity of remote debugging, > > that would be beautiful!!), the sound/caches problem. Thanks. > I'm aiming at Saturday Great. 8) Any ideas on the UK release date (we tend to lag behind sometimes) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 19:12:16 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA11123 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 19:12:08 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <18077-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 16:38:20 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 16:43:31 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 16:43:00 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 16:42:57 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Your FTP site! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > I have put version 4 of our BlitzLibs on your FTP site - I hope > you don't mind. I'm sorry its a UUE, but I haven't got the LHA on me > at the moment. I have no complaints about this whatsoever! 8) Did you get a chance to look at my game? Opinions? +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 19:12:24 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA11126 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 19:12:10 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <18202-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 16:48:49 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 16:54:00 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 16:53:33 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 16:53:26 GMT0BST Subject: RE: Mapeditor Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > Nice to here from you again! 8) > Sorry, but over the last week the mail here has been very dodgy - I had no mail > at all for the last 3 days of last week. I have, unfortunately, had no bug > reports from you - please feel free to send them as soon as you read this. Ah, you see the latest version of the Mapeditor didn't work at all on my machine 8( When I run it, pressed the create map button, then loaded in the shapes, I got a new loadshapes dlg. Once the shapes had loaded, I clicked on okay, and the program hangs... It doesn't crash, but it no longer responds to menu commands or anything. Any ideas? > The inital version of the editor took me two days to write. That version had > only a few options but allowed you to load blocks and maps, edit the map (it > scrolled it well) and save your map. It was simple but did the job well - I > think at that stage it was better than the blitz2 map editor. Thats quick! > I wouldn't mind you using my editor has a basis for your designer. I would of > course want an enormous credit in your program! What sort of thing would the > edito have to do - I might be able to include extra options in the current > editor that allow you to define and edit variables for the map. If you wanted > to do it yourself then I could let you have the source code, I would though > want you to not spread around my editors source code (this implies that you > would not spread anything based on it of course). Apart from that, you're > welcome to try and build it into a custom editor for your program - or just > tell me what you need in! I hadn't really decided whether I will add a leveleditor yet, but if I do, I supposed it will be along the lines of a mapeditor, plus other options to vary the levels, like adding restart points, defining how man men come out of prisons, that sort of thing. All this data is currently held in datat statements, but if I include it in the maps then they will be totally self-contained. I was sort of thinking of releasing this leveleditor separately, to existing StarWoids owners, and charging a little extra for it, but its all early days at the moment. I'm not interested in selling or distributing a mapeditor to compete with yours in any way whatsoever. In fact, my original idea was this: 1. You give me the code to your mapeditor, lets say the older version since advanced features are not too important too me. (this is obviously a sticky point, since it requires good faith on both sides, especially yours). 2. I convert it to support the features my game needs. At this point it doesn't become a standard usable mapeditor anymore, its basically only of use when used with my game (since the save files will be StarWoids files only). So it doesn't compete with your version at all. 3. You obviously get advertising, since you can splash copyright messages all other the place 8) 4. And, if I sell it separately, you can have a vey large slice of the profits, since the program is essentially yours. This is all just some initial thoughts on it, I may not do this as yet (I'm still weighing up the pros and cons, since it requires a lot of coding in the game too, to make things as structured as possible). What are your thoughts? > The lastest version of the editor now supports surface detail defining (idea > for this was from Jurgen Valks), this means that blocks can have alternate > values that are completely different to the normal block values saved out in > the map. These values are saved out as a separate chunk in the file. Excellent idea, can't wait to check it out. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 20:55:19 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA15108 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 20:55:03 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qQJIY-0003jEC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 20:49 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 19 Jul 94 20:39:29 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 20:39:24 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: AGA Fade Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <33728604BBF@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi All! Just wanted to know if anyone out there knows any good way to make a pro look fades with 256 colour slices. What I need is fade my 256 colours slice in and out and I want it to take some 25-100 vbls. I tired some methods but they all take so much time. Any help is welcome.Thanks! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 20 01:56:30 1994 Received: from teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA25344 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 01:56:15 +0300 Received: from elaine.teleport.com (elaine.teleport.com [192.108.254.13]) by teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA20086 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:55:50 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:55:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "W.L. McGraw" Subject: Map Scroller To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO I am looking for a nice map scrolling routine,.. any ideas? mactech@teleport.com mactech@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81) From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 20 13:03:53 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA15196 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 13:03:22 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qQYPa-0002vvC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:58 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 20 Jul 94 13:00:41 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 13:00:39 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Shape problem Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <347831C6CEC@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi all! I'd like to know if the number of shapes is somehow limited or not? I know that I can set the # from the options window but in my case it seems that it doesn't work: I set the # of shapes to 2600 (yes i really need them so much and yes I have plenty of mem). Problem is that when I try to get some shapes (e.g. #2000) then the blitz says Unable to free memory error. Then I tried to free shapes by hand: for t=0 to 2600 : free shapes t : next .Now every time I get an error Unable to free memory. Funny thing is that when I check the value of the t then it's every time different, like first time it's 1024 then 1029 then maybe 1030 etc. So am I doing something wrong or what?? BTW. Im using an AGA machine and the shapes I try to get are from 8 plane bitmap. Any help is welcome! Thanks! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 20 08:28:20 1994 Received: from triode.apana.org.au (triode.apana.org.au [202.12.88.58]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA06143 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 08:27:56 +0300 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 15:25:39 +0000 From: Neil Miller Subject: Help. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO OK Guys, anybody know how to get a list of connected devices like dh0: dh1: etc \|/ -O"O- ----------------------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------ T E X neil@triode.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 21 04:55:16 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA19490 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 04:51:22 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2424; Thu, 21 Jul 94 04:49:50 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2423; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 04:49:50 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 9543; Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:50:39 EDT Message-Id: <20JUL94.23591303.0080.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:50:37 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Are numbers REAL? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Can someone tell me why, when I write down this little program, it doesn't do what I tell it to? Here: Print 5.7896 MouseWait This should print out 5.7896 in a Shell window right? WRONG! It prints out: 5.789599 Why? WHY!? Sigh. Nelson Santos Mr. Mig From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 21 04:56:35 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA19681 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 04:56:18 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2452; Thu, 21 Jul 94 04:54:51 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2451; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 04:54:51 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 9585; Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:55:37 EDT Message-Id: <20JUL94.23680700.0080.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:55:35 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Joel Corn: Order does not work. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi there. Thanks for the tip on using a different order for that little program I showed everyone, but BitMapOutput 0 BlitzKeys On BitMapInput doesn't seem to work either. So, therefore you agree with me that there must be a bug, right? You think it wouldn't be too naughty of me to tell Acid to check it out? Nelson "Mr. Mig" Santos From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 21 07:14:17 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA23375 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 07:14:04 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3155; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:12:37 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3154; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 07:12:37 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 0782; Thu, 21 Jul 94 00:13:20 EDT Message-Id: <21JUL94.00206618.0067.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 94 00:11:25 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Yo! Acid! BitMapInput don't work! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO ******************************************* *TO: Anyone associated with Acid Software.* ******************************************* I created a little program to test out BitMapInput, and it seems to be malfunctioning. Here is what I did: 1) Went into Blitz mode. 2) Then, right away, go into QAMIGA mode to read in one word from a text file in RAM. Note that I used the FileInput and then the DefaultInput commands for it. 3) Back into BLITZ mode. 4) Initialize a Bitmap and a slice. USE it and SHOW it. 5) I set BitmapOutput to ON and turn BlitzKeys on and set the input stream to BitMapInput. 6) Then I do a loop to read typing from the keyboard using Inkey$. That is when it screws up. It says "Can't read character from default input." Now, I DID set BitMapInput, so it should be reading from the keyboard, right? Well, it doesn't seem to. Is it because of the way I did it? Please test this out and check back with me, OK? It is IMPERATIVE for the game I am making!! Thanks. OH! Also note that if the file doesn't exist and nothing was read from it (or if I remove the whole QAMIGA routine entirely) the typing loop works just fine, so I gather there must be something wrong with the BitMapInput command, it's not switching properly. Nelson. From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 21 11:51:03 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA02313 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 11:50:32 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <18561-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:50:11 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 21 Jul 94 9:55:21 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 21 Jul 94 9:55:16 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:55:06 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Joel Corn: Order does not work. Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <11D40483FDB@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > > Thanks for the tip on using a different order for that little > > program I showed everyone, but > > > > BitMapOutput 0 > > BlitzKeys On > > BitMapInput > > > > doesn't seem to work either. So, therefore you agree with me that > > there must be a bug, right? You think it wouldn't be too naughty of > > me to tell Acid to check it out? > > > > Nelson "Mr. Mig" Santos > Hmm nother rule of thumb (ROT) is that I always turn BlitzKeys on > straight after going into BlitzMode... I agree with this, and if you do use blitzkeys, always (AND I MEAN ALWAYS!!!!!!! 8^), switch off blitzkeys before jumping into QAMIGA mode (and switch them on again when going back into BLITZ mode obviously), or you will be in deep shit! I have serious keyboard buffering problems when using blitzkeys, which had me tearing my hair out for ages, until I noticed I wasn't disabling/enabling blitzkeys when using QAMIGA mode. Sigh... 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 21 19:50:13 1994 Received: from sashimi.wwa.com (sashimi.wwa.com [198.49.174.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA19789 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 19:49:55 +0300 Received: by sashimi.wwa.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0qR1Km-000bmKC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 11:51 CDT Received: by alpha.IXO.COM (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0ueg@alpha.IXO.COM>; Thu, 21 Jul 94 17:17:49 CET Message-ID: Date: 21 Jul 94 12:15:49 CET Organization: Alpha Station BBS - 011/333528, Diepenbeek, BELGIUM X-Mailer: AmiGate 0.17e (27.6.94) From: stef@alpha.IXO.COM (Stephan Kortleven) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Are numbers REAL? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO In a message of 20 Jul 94 GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR wrote to me: GLM> Can someone tell me why, when I write down this little program, it GLM> doesn't do what I tell it to? Here: GLM> Print 5.7896 GLM> MouseWait GLM> This should print out 5.7896 in a Shell window right? WRONG! It prints GLM> out: GLM> 5.789599 GLM> Why? WHY!? GLM> Sigh. Standart BlitzII is using a double precission var known as floats. That means, if you put none extention after the var, double precission var are used (.f). Double precission var have one big disadvantage. There are not quite exact in calculating numbers. But you can go from a range of +/-9*10^18, you have to deal with this big disadvantage. So, a solution to you prblem will be very simple. Try to use (.q) singe precission var known as quick. If you have enough with var going from a range +/-32768.0000. Plus they have a advantage to. they are only using 2 bytes of mem, so you win 2 bytes ! Try this number.q=5.7896 Print number.q MouseWait _ /X\ // \\ - (BLITZ) If you like the real world ! \\ // -- \X/ _ ... Yes ! This is Belguim calling. ;-) From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 21 17:08:12 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA14006 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 17:05:02 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qQyep-0002ZYC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 16:59 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 21 Jul 94 17:04:53 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 17:04:52 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: Shape problem + Curren project Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <363959F2981@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > Wo how many shapes fo you waant, 2600????? Ummm no can do, I think > calculation for objects is 32K/size of .object which for a shape I think > is, hmmm, let me see... 32, so 1000 is the max. > Best way around this if you are not after incredible speed and shapes are > all one size is to lay them out on a big bitmap and use getashape when > you need them or scroll to just plonk them down. > Please tell us what you are doing you crazy BlitzMan! Thanx for Acid for clearing this thing out! So 1000 shapes is limit. Just wondering why ted lets me set the # of shapes > than 1000. Well...anyway, I suppose some of U out there wonder why the hell I need so many shapes? So here's some information about my project to clear thing out: It's the clone of the game called Turbo Rocket (original was in fact called Turbo Raketti) by Finnish dude Heikki Kosola. In my oppinion it's the best shareware 2 player game I've ever seen. In short it's 2 player gravity (thrust) game. As the gfx wasn't very impressive and I just had some cool ideas of my own I decided to create my own verion of it. It'll be AGA only game (maybe cut-down versions later). Almost all GFX will be rendered (Real 3D). For one player there are 256 shapes (it really looks 3D-ish and cool). So thats why so many shapes - as I need for players 512 then there will be some bonus and other stuff (well ok...I hope I'll manage with 1000 shapes too ;). Then there are some kewl tunes and sound effects too. The game is not just pure soot'em'up - there will be some racing sections too. In fact I've design it as a racing game with this little feature to trash your opponent :). Anyway it's kinda hard to explain all features- U just have to see it. I'm not working on it alone - there is one GFX artist, one dude is rendering specialist and coder and then there's me - muzak+fx an coding. Well I hope U wish me luck coz I've working on this project for about half a year now (first in am*s - yes I dropped this one coz it was too slow) and now in blitz. So if I manage to make some working version of it I'll upload it to aminet. Be well dudes! CU! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 21 20:30:28 1994 Received: from magician.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (magician.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [192.135.232.64]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA21291 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 20:30:19 +0300 From: spi@dcs.qmw.ac.uk Received: from dcs.qmw.ac.uk by magician.dcs.qmw.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <10168-0@magician.dcs.qmw.ac.uk>; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 18:30:27 +0100 Received: by it039.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (5.64/QMW-Minimal-1.14) id AA00894; Thu, 21 Jul 94 18:29:00 BST Message-Id: <9407211729.AA00894@it039.dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Subject: Reading Text files To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 18:28:57 +0000 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL13] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, I am currently trying to write a uuencoded file splitter, but have a few questions that I need answers to. Is is possible to quickly determine how many lines of text there are in a file of ASCII text (with varying line lengths). Can you get blitz to read in lines of text (again of varying length), but all ending with a newline character, and if so how? At present, I only know how to read in text of fixed length, using: If Readfile (f$,0) While not EOF(0) a$=Inkey$(xx) Wend CloseFile 0 End If where xx is the length of the line. Any help would be much appreciated! Steven Innell Email: spi@dcs.qmw.ac.uk From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 22 02:10:10 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA02734 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 02:09:44 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA09956 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:10:15 -1000 Message-Id: <199407221910.AA09956@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: LOADIFF anyone? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:06:19 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi All, Steven Matty wrote to me a few days ago about his faster IFF loader. Could Steven or anyone else please either mail it to me or tell me if it is available via Aminet. Ta in advance. Tom Duncan duncan@usq.edu.au From duncan@zeus.usq.edu.au Fri Jul 22 02:28:20 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA02734 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 02:09:44 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA09956 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:10:15 -1000 Message-Id: <199407221910.AA09956@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: LOADIFF anyone? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:06:19 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi All, Steven Matty wrote to me a few days ago about his faster IFF loader. Could Steven or anyone else please either mail it to me or tell me if it is available via Aminet. Ta in advance. Tom Duncan duncan@usq.edu.au From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 22 02:21:24 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA03019 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 02:21:15 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3599; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:19:48 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3598; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 02:19:48 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 1119; Thu, 21 Jul 94 19:20:24 EDT Message-Id: <21JUL94.20886719.0237.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 94 19:20:22 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Turn off BlitzKeys before QAMIGA! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Martin Kift: ------------ >I agree with this, and if you do use blitzkeys, always (AND I MEAN >ALWAYS!!!!!!! 8^), switch off blitzkeys before jumping into QAMIGA >mode (and switch them on again when going back into BLITZ mode >obviously), or you will be in deep shit!? Aaaaaahhhhh! THAT must be the problem! I thought about this a couple of days ago, but I didn't think that would be so much of a problem! I will do that and see if it works! (After all, it worked for you!) Nelson Santos From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 22 05:11:04 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA07893 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 05:10:31 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4804; Fri, 22 Jul 94 05:09:04 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4803; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 05:09:04 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 3958; Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:09:46 EDT Message-Id: <21JUL94.23935196.0067.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:09:43 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Running a Blitz from in a Blitz! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Is there any way of loading a blitz program from within a blitz program without having to resort to any ML or addressing routines? Thanks for any help. Nelson. From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 22 03:59:51 1994 Received: from ns.gte.com (ns.gte.com [132.197.8.9]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA05696 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 03:59:20 +0300 Received: from bunny.gte.com by ns.gte.com (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4) id AA13431; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 20:57:44 -0400 Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.19) id AA27259; Thu, 21 Jul 94 20:59:12 -0400 Received: from localhost by genesis.nred.ma.us (8.3/genesis0.0) id UAA00485; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 20:35:23 -0700 From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo) Message-Id: <199407220335.UAA00485@genesis.nred.ma.us> Subject: Blitz 2 -- Just got it.... To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 20:35:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hey, I just bought Blitz 2 today at my local shop. Looks good. A few questions: I've been trying to compile the examples in the archive directory, but it won't find the includes in the directory. How do I set the proper include directory? Can I get more source code? I need some heavily documented source with basic stuff like using bobs, sprites, backgrounds, etc. Also, can I get a hold of all the programs mentioned in the 5 included issues of Blitz User? Where's the CD32 developers kit? I'm very interested in this. From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 22 13:37:20 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA21746 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 13:25:34 +0300 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 11:22:56 +0100 Message-Id: <94072211225591@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Bloody SISVAX X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 22-JUL-1994 Recently, the mail here has been incredibly dodgy. This means that it is very likely that any messages sent to either Steve or me @SISVAX have most probably been lost. If anyone has sent something important then could they please resend. Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Someones spotted a T.T. bug!| |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | | [###############!] [###############] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v3.2 | | | [###########################:::::::] | | Help me:ANIM8 file format please! | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.1| | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [################################::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 23 11:31:27 1994 Received: from alsvid.scu.edu.au (alsvid.scu.edu.au [203.2.33.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA00026 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:30:57 +0300 Received: by alsvid.scu.edu.au id AA10226 (5.65c8+/IDA-1.4.4 for helsinki.fi!blitz-list); Sat, 23 Jul 1994 18:30:20 +1000 Received: by wnet.edex.edu.au with UUCP (\/<>\/ SmailAmiga 1.02j21) id ; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 14:32:23 +1000 Received: by fulink.edex.edu.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <00w4@fulink.edex.edu.au>; Sat, 23 Jul 94 02:22:32 +1000 Message-Id: <9407231222.00w4@fulink.edex.edu.au> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 94 02:22:32 +1000 From: mike@fulink.edex.edu.au (Mike Hall) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Shape problem + Curren project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O In Email on Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:57:51 +1200 (NZST), acid@iconz.co.nz wrote: >Of course we wish you luck, the combination of Blitz2 and rendered >objects sold 30,000 copies of a game called SkidMarks, (yes it can be >done, even by a bunch of kiwis) 30,000!? flame'n ek! so what was that worth to you acid freaks? shame you didn't get my fax, woulda been more like 100,000 ;) -- __ .------------------------------------------------. __/// o_,| Sysop of Future Link | 3:640/944, 61-75-382097 | \XX/ ,\\ike Hall ; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 19:36:18 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0201; Fri, 22 Jul 94 19:34:51 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0199; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 19:34:51 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 5224; Fri, 22 Jul 94 12:35:26 EDT Message-Id: <22JUL94.13597506.0098.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 12:35:24 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Get MED! It pays! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Something strange is happenning to the MED commands in my programs. I load a MED module, I initialize it and then in a loop I use PlayMED and a VWait. Ok, this works, but it's way to slow! Then I tried putting 3 playmeds in a row in that loop and it got close to the proper speed but still it was too slow. 4 Playmeds in a row made it play too FAST! I also tried the same routine set on an interrupt but it did the same thing. Is it perhaps because I have an Amiga 4000 with a 68040 in it or something? Nelson. From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 23 06:46:30 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA23410 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 06:46:09 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5780; Sat, 23 Jul 94 06:44:43 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5779; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 06:44:43 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 5555; Fri, 22 Jul 94 23:45:28 EDT Message-Id: <22JUL94.25658130.0064.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 23:45:27 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Re: Get MED! It pays! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O To Acid ------- Yes, that MED reply wasn't as helpful as I'd hoped, but I will try playing around with the timing in MED to see if I can get it to work properly. In the mean time, can you tell me why I keep getting a syntax error when I try to open the serial port? Please give me an example of how to use the OpenSerial command found in BUM #2. Thanks. Nelson S! From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 23 18:05:16 1994 Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu (PO6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.106]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA09391 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 18:04:18 +0300 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) id LAA05020 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:04:12 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:04:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.32.pmax.ul4.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix6.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix6.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:03:35 -0400 (EDT) From: William Nolan To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: SUBSCRIBE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Please add me to the list ... it turns out they didn't delete my account! William Nolan (wn22@cmu.edu) From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 25 18:18:11 1994 Received: from ns.gte.com (ns.gte.com [132.197.8.9]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA26670 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 18:17:27 +0300 Received: from bunny.gte.com by ns.gte.com (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4) id AA27688; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 11:15:42 -0400 Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.19) id AA18893; Mon, 25 Jul 94 11:17:10 -0400 Received: from localhost by genesis.nred.ma.us (8.3/genesis0.0) id RAA11018; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 17:26:40 -0700 From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo) Message-Id: <199407240026.RAA11018@genesis.nred.ma.us> Subject: Mo' questions. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 17:26:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hey, I've been fooling around with the ball blitting program included in the Blitz2 examples--adding joystick routines etc.--but I have a problem playing mods. I loaded up a mod, but when I go into Blitz mode and use the playmodule command, it says it cannot free enough memory. Why? I've got 4 megs of RAM, 2 of which are Chip RAM (I'm running on a 4000/030). What's the problem? I can't find any command in the reference guide which deals with memory in regards to sound/mods. Also, when I try and make my own shapes, I get an error when loading them in. Says it can't find the CMAP IFF or something. I assume it's an error with the shape file, in the way it was saved or something. But, I used the shapegrabber included with Blitz2, so what's the problem? Also, the runtime error box on my 4000 is messed up. It seems to display it in NTSC super-hires mode, and it looks like two error boxes superimposed on eachother. Each letter is doubled, and it's hard to read. If I click on the box and then smash keys at random, occasionally it will change to lores mode and become readable. What gives? From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 06:32:54 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA26801 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 06:32:42 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9824; Sun, 24 Jul 94 06:31:13 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9823; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 06:31:14 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4136; Sat, 23 Jul 94 23:31:59 EDT Message-Id: <23JUL94.25415387.0076.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 94 23:31:57 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Acid: Opening the Serial port! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O >Your serial problem has been answered several times on the mail list in >the last two weeks, using the help key you can quickly check the syntax >of any command, and it will tell you a new 2nd parameter has been added >which I admit was VERY stupid when regarding backward >compatability/documentation... >Hmm, to cut a long story short: >a.l=OpenSerial(0,"serial.device",2400,0) >should work, shouldn't it guys? > I am aware of the HELP key function, BUT it says NOTHING about those brackets you have there! How the hell am I supposed to know if I should use brackets or not? Anyways, I tried it out. Aside from your inversed "serial.device" and device # 0, it works. Sheeesh! Dumb brackets. Have you figured out why the MED commands don't work properly on my computer? I tryed playing around with the speeds in MED, but I cannot get it to work! I still need several PlayMed commands in the loop, and I still don't get the right speed I want. Also, ProTracker MODs don't work either. They play too fast, plus sometimes the instruments that are playing get choked and they don't come out sometimes. I can fix that problem in ProTracker by changing the DMA value (whatever the heck that is) and it works in ProTracker, but it still plays too fast. How else can I play a MOD with my programs? Nelson. From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 06:36:12 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA26857 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 06:36:06 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9832; Sun, 24 Jul 94 06:34:39 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9831; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 06:34:39 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4144; Sat, 23 Jul 94 23:35:26 EDT Message-Id: <23JUL94.25477374.0076.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 94 23:35:24 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: MODULE TIME! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O To all (except Acid, 'cause I wrote one to them already) Has anyone had any luck playing modules using Blitz Basic ][? MED or MOD!? With my A4000 I've just been having bad luck left and right. Any help is appreciated! Nelson. From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 07:40:09 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA28235 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 07:39:48 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0145; Sun, 24 Jul 94 07:38:21 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0144; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 07:38:21 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4579; Sun, 24 Jul 94 00:39:09 EDT Message-Id: <24JUL94.00704337.0237.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 94 00:39:07 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Acid: New Docs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Sorry for not replying to you directly, but I seem to be having difficulty with my mailing system here. So here goes. I think the best thing you can do is publish your BUM mags on disk because it's cheaper for everyone, easier for everyone and much easier to handle. Releasing a new version of Blitz is not really very necessary until you have some MAJOR changes in it! And I'm not talking about a new editor! I'm talking about better programmed routines etc... but even those can be replaced by rewriting the libs! So, I think the best think you can do, is just release updates and tutorials on diskette, you already have the finished product, so continue adding onto it. Besides, I'd rather pay a couple of bucks for BUM on a disk rather than 20 bucks for 4 mags. Whaddaya say about that? If you do that, I will be the first one to order it! :) Nelson! From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 16:30:07 1994 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA10497 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 16:29:44 +0300 From: MyxxMatch@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA14726 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 06:31:06 -0700 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.53) id GAA27490 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 06:31:05 -0700 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: variables Lines: 16 Date: Sun, 24 Jul 94 06:31:04 PDT Message-ID: <9407240631.1.25728@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O I know you use the & symbol to find a variable's address, but how can you then find its length? The programmers guide says "adress-4" (typo and all). Sometimes I think that Greek would be easier to learn. An example... Dim map.b(20,20,8) <> adrs=&map(1,1,0) How do I find the end of this variable? Thanx From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 18:19:29 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA13275 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 18:19:23 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2168; Sun, 24 Jul 94 18:17:56 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2167; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 18:17:56 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 6854; Sun, 24 Jul 94 11:18:40 EDT Message-Id: <24JUL94.12215600.0245.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 94 11:18:38 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Acid: Med Player MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O >played... The reason our med player is only called once per frame (50 H >is because to sync everything up nicely you do not want interupts going >off at anything except in sync with the Amiga frame rate... Hmm....I don't know if MED has a DMA function, I'll check though. As for your MED player, if it is only called once every 50th (which is normal) how come it plays the module so slowly? Like I said before, I'd need 3 PlayMeds in a row and then the VWait to get close to the normal speed (but still NOT normal speed!) How do other module players play modules? They undoubtedly have an interrupt every 50th Vblank and they sound ok. Hmm. You said that other users had created their own module players? Then can you tell me what is involved in creating my own? I have the source code (in ML) for a ProTracker player. Can I somehow incorporate this player in Blitz ][ and play my mods through it all the while continuing through the rest of the program? Much appreciation. Nelson. From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 18:33:36 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA13544 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 18:33:30 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2208; Sun, 24 Jul 94 18:32:03 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2207; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 18:32:03 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 6937; Sun, 24 Jul 94 11:32:50 EDT Message-Id: <24JUL94.12470446.0245.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 94 11:32:48 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Mot M. Aaloe: Playing mods MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O >BTW don't forget that playmed gets it's timing from the current >vbl frequency so to get it sound right U have to view pal screen >(or slice). So for example if your workbench is in productivity >or some other non 50 HZ res and if U are viewing it while playing then >the speed of your mod is wrong. Hope that helped. Bye for now! Ok, this works MUCH better now! But the speed is still a little off It's just going a tad too fast. I made the mod in PAL using Pro- Tracker, and it's speed was 132 BPM. I did what you said by loading the mod using OctaMed (V 5.0 as well) and changing it from BPM to SPD (I would have never thought of using SPD instead of BPM). And now when I play it from Blitz ][, it still goes just a little too fast, but this is probably due to the frequency. I'll play around with it a little. Thanks! Nelson "Mr. Mig" Santos From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 19:00:37 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA14356 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 19:00:29 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2275; Sun, 24 Jul 94 18:59:02 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2273; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 18:59:03 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 7159; Sun, 24 Jul 94 11:59:46 EDT Message-Id: <24JUL94.12955530.0060.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 94 11:59:45 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Aaloe: MOD Players MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi again. Ok, I've been playing around with Blitz and my mod for a few minutes, but I still couldn't make it play at the proper speed. It is EXTREMELY close, but still too slow (or fast, depending on the SPD settings I save in OctaMED). I also tried openning up a PAL screen (and an NTSC screen just in case, but something fishy is going on. I tried opening up a PAL screen but it doesn't open up in PAL. It has the dimensions, and it shows about 230 lines, but I can tell it's not a PAL screen. How do you open up your screens in PAL? I changed my screenmode to PAL Hires, and I also used the Degrader for good measure. And the NTSC function tells me that the system is currently in PAL. But when I open a screen, it's not a PAL screen. I'll keep playing around with it, but some more help would be appreciated...mercy. Nelson. From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 18:08:59 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk ([137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA13030 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 18:08:09 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <05540-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 16:08:06 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 24 Jul 94 16:13:15 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 24 Jul 94 16:13:04 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 16:12:56 GMT0BST Subject: Re: darn sis messages Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <16B8E8944E8@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > Hi, is there any possibility of knocking the sis accounts off the list > that generate an unable to send mail message whenever I post anything on > this list? I agree, that one sis account is getting irrating. Can you sort it out Steve? I think you mentioned you knew who the account belonged too. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 06:37:45 1994 Received: from turtle.apana.org.au (turtle.apana.org.au [202.12.87.98]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA26864 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 06:37:06 +0300 Received: from amigar.UUCP (amigar@localhost) by turtle.apana.org.au (8.6.8/8.6.9) with UUCP id MAA04949 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 12:23:04 +0930 Received: by amigar.apana.org.au (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Sun, 24 Jul 94 11:00:45 PDT for blitz-list@helsinki.fi To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Subscribe From: jwilson@amigar.apana.org.au (jeff wilson) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 94 10:59:50 PDT Organization: Amiga Retreat BBS, Darwin, Australia MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO I would like to subscribe to this area please. I don't know if this is the right way of doing this, so if not could someone please inform me how. Cheers! -- jwilson@amigar.apana.org.au (jeff wilson) Amiga Retreat BBS - Darwin, NT, Australia -- +61 89 451516 From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 17:32:19 1994 Received: from alsvid.scu.edu.au (alsvid.scu.edu.au [203.2.33.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA14280 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 17:29:25 +0300 Received: by alsvid.scu.edu.au id AA05535 (5.65c8+/IDA-1.4.4 for helsinki.fi!blitz-list); Wed, 27 Jul 1994 00:29:11 +1000 Received: by wnet.edex.edu.au with UUCP (\/<>\/ SmailAmiga 1.02j21) id ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 12:55:49 +1000 Received: by fulink.edex.edu.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <00zd@fulink.edex.edu.au>; Mon, 25 Jul 94 13:20:35 +1000 Message-Id: <9407252320.00zd@fulink.edex.edu.au> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 13:20:35 +1000 From: mike@fulink.edex.edu.au (Mike Hall) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO help! let me outa here! too much mail coming in! hmmm... I wonder if 'unsubscribe' worked. shall return when I actually start doing something with Blitz. -- __ .------------------------------------------------. __/// o_,| Sysop of Future Link | 3:640/944, 61-75-382097 | \XX/ ,\\ike Hall ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 08:53:11 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5316; Mon, 25 Jul 94 08:51:44 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5315; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 08:51:45 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 3680; Mon, 25 Jul 94 01:52:26 EDT Message-Id: <25JUL94.02015756.0058.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 01:51:59 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Bouncing. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hey, those messages from the sis thing better not be from MY account! Everytime I write a message to the list, I get a response from sis telling me that my message bounced all over the place. What's going on!? Nelson. From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 25 11:36:20 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA10398 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 11:36:09 +0300 From: "HADL60::\"hadmo\""@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HF482N61QO002WFI@email.meto.govt.uk>; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 08:33:30 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 08:33:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Horrific BLIT problem!! To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HF482N7X9E002WFI@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O AAAAARRRGGGGHH!!! My first Blitz game (Pingwynne) is 98% finished and I've just found a *NASTY* blitz bug! Sometimes shapes blitted to the screen using BLIT just don't appear... Now the monsters in my game vanish for short periods of time, making it a tad difficult to avoid them! The monsters are loaded in as shapes, then each time one moves it does the following: VWAIT 1 BLIT 0,oldx,oldy ; Delete by blitting a shape which is a rectangle of the same colour as the background BLIT 1,x,y ; Blit monster in new position I know this probably isn't the best way to do it, but is SHOULD work! (I'm using an A1200 with accelerator, but it also happens on a standard 1200) Its as if the first BLIT (to delete it) is working, but the second one just doesn't happen. Anyone have any suggestions how to cure this? Is this a bug that's known about and will be fixed in a future BUM? PLEASE help if you can!! Otherwise I'll give up on computers and technology forever, and move to the Outer Hebrides to live a simple life as a hermit... -Matt. ________________________________________________________________________ / | | \ \ | Matthew O'Donnell | Tel: (44) 0344 856993 | / / | Hadley Centre, * Email: modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk | \ \ | UK Met. Office. | | / / | | \ \ | Working on: Pingwynne [game (Amiga)] | / / | GhostBlaster [WB game (Amiga)] | \ \_|____________________________________________________________________|_/ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 17:32:18 1994 Received: from alsvid.scu.edu.au (alsvid.scu.edu.au [203.2.33.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA14278 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 17:29:19 +0300 Received: by alsvid.scu.edu.au id AA05541 (5.65c8+/IDA-1.4.4 for helsinki.fi!blitz-list); Wed, 27 Jul 1994 00:29:11 +1000 Received: by wnet.edex.edu.au with UUCP (\/<>\/ SmailAmiga 1.02j21) id ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 12:55:53 +1000 Received: by fulink.edex.edu.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <00zt@fulink.edex.edu.au>; Mon, 25 Jul 94 19:29:27 +1000 Message-Id: <9407260529.00zt@fulink.edex.edu.au> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 19:29:27 +1000 From: mike@fulink.edex.edu.au (Mike Hall) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: blitz's future... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO In Email on Mon 25/7/1994 0:12, the acid monster from hell wrote: >The other thing Acid needs to take into consideration is the importance >of publishing stuff developed by Blitz Users, offering the best service >in this department and taking the financial resources out of Blitz stock >might also be a viable argument. let me do pre-release reviews for the blitz coders, shall make em sell lotssssss more copies! trust me! mohaha.. nah... really! :) >keep publishing bums, leave new docs until blitz3 which should have >linker and modern '90's editor instead of 'baby' ted, use money to employ >programmers to get blitz3 out early 94 That's the one I think would suite Blitz users best... >republish docs in ringbinder so Blitz2 is on the shelves for XMas and >upgrade current users using profit for the above Nah, would still be the same kinda distribution hassles and means unneccesary ongoing costs for us users requiring the updates. Making the BUM's into a very large Bottom in the form of an amigaguide file is the way to go... >put Blitz2 into pd, publish all docs on disk, support users by publishing >their software and concentrate on supporting Amiga by py publishing lots >of choice software Can you make more from less work going onto the other projects? If so then I guess it'd be best for you but o'course Blitz will suffer. -- __ .------------------------------------------------. __/// o_,| Sysop of Future Link | 3:640/944, 61-75-382097 | \XX/ ,\\ike Hall ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 14:19:35 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id NAA22617; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 13:19:34 +0200 Received: by gfl.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17297; Mon, 25 Jul 94 13:16:16 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 13:16:16 +0200 Message-Id: <9407251116.AA17297@gfl.se> From: sand@gfl.se (Peter Sandberg) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: MODULE TIME! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi Nelson, you wrote: >Has anyone had any luck playing modules using Blitz Basic ][? >MED or MOD!? With my A4000 I've just been having bad luck left and >right. Any help is appreciated! > >Nelson. I have had some luck playing med modules with BB2. This was some time ago though and this is straight from memory: There are two speedsettings in Med. When You are composing, one of the settings will be ignored by bb2. Solution: just use the other setting... . I dont know which one of the settings you should use but if I remember right there is a three digit number followed by a two digit number, like xxx/xx. I think that it's the two digit setting that means anything to BB2. Greetings from Peter Sandberg From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 25 14:19:48 1994 Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.220.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA16156 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 14:19:35 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id NAA22617; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 13:19:34 +0200 Received: by gfl.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17297; Mon, 25 Jul 94 13:16:16 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 13:16:16 +0200 Message-Id: <9407251116.AA17297@gfl.se> From: sand@gfl.se (Peter Sandberg) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: MODULE TIME! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi Nelson, you wrote: >Has anyone had any luck playing modules using Blitz Basic ][? >MED or MOD!? With my A4000 I've just been having bad luck left and >right. Any help is appreciated! > >Nelson. I have had some luck playing med modules with BB2. This was some time ago though and this is straight from memory: There are two speedsettings in Med. When You are composing, one of the settings will be ignored by bb2. Solution: just use the other setting... . I dont know which one of the settings you should use but if I remember right there is a three digit number followed by a two digit number, like xxx/xx. I think that it's the two digit setting that means anything to BB2. Greetings from Peter Sandberg From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 25 17:16:02 1994 Received: from cs.uml.edu (cs.uml.edu [129.63.1.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA24117 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 17:15:41 +0300 Received: by cs.uml.edu id AA06844 (5.67a+/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:15:28 -0400 From: Ralph Barbagallo Message-Id: <199407251415.AA06844@cs.uml.edu> Subject: Testing (sorta) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:15:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > > I haven't seen any of my messages from my nugget@genesis.tiac.net > account echoed on this mailing list, so I'm trying from my school account. > > Anyway, how do I prevent blitter objects from cutting into my > background when using double buffering? I'm doing an invaders clone > (trying to duplicate Atari 2600 Space Invaders as well as I can) but the > ship at the bottom of the screen keeps cutting a HUGE block of blackness > out of the strip of land at the bottom. How do I prevent this? > > Also, how do you play mods? I've used the playmod command after > loading one in, but it will play the mod and then crash saying it can't > free memory or something. I've got 4 megs of RAM, 2 of which are Chip on > my A4000...so why can't it free memory, I only had maybe 1 or 2 bobs zipping > around (edited the blitting demo included in with BB2) > > If I toss a library file into the Biltzlibs directory, will the > commands automatically be made available to me? > > From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 25 17:06:21 1994 Received: from zeus.ci.ua.pt (zeus.ci.ua.pt [193.136.80.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA23712 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 17:05:29 +0300 Received: by zeus.ci.ua.pt (15.11/15.6) id AA21660; Mon, 25 Jul 94 15:44:05 pst From: "M.MORAIS" Message-Id: <9407251444.AA21660@zeus.ci.ua.pt> Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 15:44:04 +0100 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO UNSUBSCRIBE From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 25 21:59:35 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA05041 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 21:58:59 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <29523-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 20:58:54 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA42049; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 20:55:12 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:58:10 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:57:55 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 20:41:48 Subject: hadmo@email.meto.govt.uk Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <2A6D8FA1582@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > > Hi Jurgen, > > > > Thanks for your new BlitzGuide 1.1, it's really useful! If it had > > the standard Blitz commands in as well, it would be *EVEN* more useful!!! > Yes, but they are copyrighted..... Sorry that I didn't answer you via your account, but I get a mail delivery failure... Cya Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 03:06:28 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA13902 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 03:05:59 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4679; Tue, 26 Jul 94 03:04:33 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4678; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 03:04:33 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 2982; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:05:14 EDT Message-Id: <25JUL94.21694029.0069.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:05:13 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: OTT: Mod Playing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi there. ok, I tried your example: loadmedmodule 0,"Ram:Mod" setint 5 playmed end setint startmedmodule 0 mousewait StopMed It practically the same thing I've been doing, and as I said, the mod is EXTREMELY close to the right speed...just a tad faster would be perfect. The way it plays now is just a little too slow, cause there is space in between each sample being played, the samples aren't connecting at the right time to make a smooth sounding mod. Any other ideas that might help? I've been testing out some machine language calling, using the CALL command and the PLOAD command but everytime I try calling something, it gives me a recoverable guru. (I'm testing this cause I want to try to call an external mod player source code to play the mod.) Anyways, thanks for any other help you can give me. Nelson. From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 03:10:45 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA14043 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 03:10:35 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4695; Tue, 26 Jul 94 03:09:09 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4694; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 03:09:09 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 3043; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:09:54 EDT Message-Id: <25JUL94.21778041.0069.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:09:53 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: OTT - Oh yeah! I forgot. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Oh yeah, you also asked me what kinda Amiga I have. I have an Amiga 4000/040. 6 megs ram (2 C, 4 F). You think that might be the prob? I know that when I use ProTracker to play mods it sometimes skips a sample or two here and there, and the songs sound unfinished (this is because the DMA is set too low, or some other technobabble like that.) Nelson. From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 20:14:43 1994 Received: from sashimi.wwa.com (sashimi.wwa.com [198.49.174.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA22011 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 20:14:31 +0300 Received: by sashimi.wwa.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0qSq65-000bm6C; Tue, 26 Jul 94 12:15 CDT Received: by alpha.IXO.COM (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0vo0@alpha.IXO.COM>; Tue, 26 Jul 94 14:08:38 CET Message-ID: Date: 26 Jul 94 02:03:32 CET Organization: Alpha Station BBS - 011/333528, Diepenbeek, BELGIUM X-Mailer: AmiGate 0.17e (27.6.94) From: stef@alpha.IXO.COM (Stephan Kortleven) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Gadtools problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hello all, could somebody help me with next problem. I'm trying to work with the gadtools gadgets and dit'nt find a way to change te size of the arrows from the GTScroller. I'm having always the same result, a vertical scroller of 100 pixels will be diveded by 2. Half part for the scroller en half part for the arrows. So, you will get arrows of 25 pixels high. I dont know, but that is not what i am surching for. Let's say a arrow of then pixels will be fine. So, my question How can change this size ? To the blitz creators: I understand, it's not always possible to bring fast a new update or version out like the one we all are waiting for, "Bum7". Still, is there no posibiliti to get a recent version like "Bum6" i'm still using "bum5" now, you know. I will pay for it if nesecery. Where could i find it ? The same about the comments on the box when i byed blitz. Very usefull progs like intuition planner you printed on it. Where could i find them ? Is there any bbs/net on the world that still have them ? _ /X\ // \\ - (BLITZ) If you like the real world ! \\ // -- \X/ _ ... Yes ! This is Belguim calling. ;-) From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 08:08:21 1994 Received: from cs.uml.edu (cs.uml.edu [129.63.1.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA22334 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:07:28 +0300 Received: by cs.uml.edu id AA11070 (5.67a+/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 26 Jul 1994 01:07:24 -0400 From: Ralph Barbagallo Message-Id: <199407260507.AA11070@cs.uml.edu> Subject: Could someone please look over this code? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 01:07:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Okay, I know this code listing is a bit long. Please forgive me. But, I'm having what seems to be a program flow problem. I'm new to Blitz, so I'm not sure how to handle it... I keep getting If without Endif, illegaly nested command, etc. errors, and I don't know why. I think it's got something to do with the misuse of the pop command. So, if someone would be so kind, please look this over, I'm sure it's just a simple mistake. Umm, actually...how do you output Blitz code as ASCII text, this source file doesn't seem to transfer as text. Well, if someone is willing to help me out, I could mail the source personally, that would save bandwidth. From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 10:40:18 1994 Received: from cs.uml.edu (cs.uml.edu [129.63.1.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA27115 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 10:39:09 +0300 Received: by cs.uml.edu id AA13092 (5.67a+/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 26 Jul 1994 03:39:04 -0400 From: Ralph Barbagallo Message-Id: <199407260739.AA13092@cs.uml.edu> Subject: here it is. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 03:39:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Here's the problematic code. ; ; Space Invaders 2600 v.5b ; By Ralph A. Barbagallo III (c) 1994 ; ; This is a clone of the classic Atari 2600 cartridge, Space Invaders ; Just a simple game to hone my skills. ; NoCli ;Disable CLI window for easier debugging and a cleaner WB screen. ; ;Initialize variables ; NEWTYPE.ship ;Data for player's ship. x.q ;Player ship's x position. y ;Player ship's y position. End NEWTYPE NEWTYPE.shield ;Data for 3 laser shields. x.q ;Shield x position. y ;Shield y position. End NEWTYPE NEWTYPE.invader ;Data for each 6x6 matrix alien. x.q ;Alien x position. y ;Alien y position. death.b ;Death flag. frontman ;Front row indicator. End NEWTYPE Dim List ships.ship(0) ;Dimension a list of ship types. Dim List shields.shield(3) ;Dimension a list of shield types. Dim invaders.invader(6,6) ;Dimension a 6x6 matrix of aliens. LoadShape 0,"playership.shape",0 ;Load in shapes from brush file. LoadShape 1,"bullet.shape",0 LoadShape 2,"mysteryship.shape",0 LoadShape 3,"invshield.shape",0 LoadShape 4,"row1.shape",0 LoadShape 5,"row2.shape",0 LoadShape 6,"row3.shape",0 LoadShape 7,"row4.shape",0 LoadShape 8,"row5.shape",0 LoadShape 9,"row6.shape",0 BitMap 0,320,200,3 ;Initialize an 8 color, lo-res bitmap for background. BitMap 1,320,200,3 ;Initialize 8 color, lo-res bitmap for double buffer. LoadBitMap 0,"invadersbkg.iff",0 ;Load .iff to bitmap for background. LoadBitMap 1,"invadersbkg.iff",0 ;Load 2nd .iff for double buffering. While AddLast(ships()) ;Initialize ship's position variable. ships()\x=140,164 Wend ;When the last item in the array has been filled, exit loop. While AddLast(shields()) ;Cycle through list of sheilds, initialize vars. shields()\x=A.q,140 ;Initialize incremented x value, default y value. A.q = A.q+70 ;Increment X value to space shields off. Wend Xstart.q = 25 For A = 1 To 6 Ystart.q = 20 For B = 1 To 6 invaders (A,B)\x=Xstart,Ystart,0,0 Ystart.q = Ystart.q+18 Next Xstart.q = Xstart.q+40 Next BLITZ ;Jump into BLITZ mode now that disk access is through. Buffer 0,16384 ;2 Buffers for double buffering action. Buffer 1,16384 Slice 0,44,320,200,$fff0,3,8,32,320,320 ;Initialize slice for bitmap. Use Palette 0 ;Use palette 0, gained from .iff file. Show 0 ;Show slice 0, background graphics. ; ;Manipulate graphics, respond to joystick commands. ; While Joyb(0)=0 ;While mousebutton hasn't been pressed. ResetList ships() ;Start at top of shape list. VWait ;Wait for vertical blank. Show db:db=1-db:Use BitMap db ;Toggle bitmaps for double buffering UnBuffer db ;Unqueue items in used bitmap. While NextItem(ships()) ;while the entire list hasn't been cycled... If Joyx(1)= 1 Then ships()\x = ships()\x+1 ;adjust x value according If Joyx(1)= -1 Then ships()\x = ships()\x-1 ;to joystick movement. If ships()\x<50 Then ships()\x=50 ;stop movement at left and If ships()\x>225 Then ships()\x=225 ;right borders. BBlit db,0,ships()\x,ships()\y ;draw ship at proper position. Wend ; ; Blit shields onto screen. ; For a = 1 To 3 ;Cycle through list of shields. BBlit db,3,shields(a)\x,shields(a)\y ;Blit shields on screen. Next ; ; Blit 6x6 matrix of aliens on screen. ; boundflag = 0 For A=1 To 6 If boundflag<>0 Then Pop For For B=1 To 6 If invaders (A,B)\x >310 Then boundflag = 1 If invaders (A,B)\x <10 Then boundflag = 2 If boundflag <> 0 Then Pop For Next Next Statement LEFT{} For A= 1 To 6 For B=1 To 6 invaders (A,B)\x = invaders (A,B)\x -2 Next Next End Statement Statement RIGHT{} For A= 1 To 6 For B= 1 To 6 invaders (A,B)\x = invaders (A,B)\x +2 Next Next End Statement If boundflag = 0 Then LEFT{} If boundflag = 1 Then LEFT{} If boundflag = 2 Then RIGHT{} For A=1 To 6 ;Cycle through the 6x6 matrix with nested loops. Invader = 4 ;Initial object number (invader graphic 1). For B=1 To 6 BBlit db,Invader,invaders(A,B)\x,invaders(A,B)\y Invader = Invader+1 ;Increment object number. Next Next Wend From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 12:21:43 1994 Received: from cs.uml.edu (cs.uml.edu [129.63.1.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA00466 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 12:21:27 +0300 Received: by cs.uml.edu id AA15961 (5.67a+/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 26 Jul 1994 05:21:23 -0400 From: Ralph Barbagallo Message-Id: <199407260921.AA15961@cs.uml.edu> Subject: Retraction To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 05:21:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hey, don't bother debugging my rather pathetic slice of code I posted. I already fixed. Thanks anyway. I'm sure I'll have more problems. ;) From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 18:41:50 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA17572 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 18:41:23 +0300 Received: from 192.87.128.200 by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <17420-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 17:41:08 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA42111; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 17:37:24 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 26 Jul 94 17:40:24 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 26 Jul 94 17:39:58 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 17:30:39 Subject: To Steve Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <2BB8CFF550C@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > Just a very quick mail to point out that whilst it is very cool, > your lastest > BGuide hasn't got the updates to my FX library in it! It stills > says that > ZoomX2/ZoomX4 only work on lorez bitmaps. I know this is just a > very small, > picky pointer but I had to fault the guide somewhere didn't I! > Oh, sorry. I just looked if there where any new commands in it. I will change it this day. I'll mail a new one tomorrow with all the BUM commands. By the way, This message was bounced back... Cya & Thanx. Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 20:03:56 1994 Received: from gboro.rowan.edu (gboro.rowan.edu [150.250.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA21554 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 20:03:33 +0300 Received: by gboro.rowan.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11710; Tue, 26 Jul 94 13:03:26 -0400 Received: from MARS/MAILQUEUE by mars.rowan.edu (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 26 Jul 94 13:03:27 +0500 Received: from MAILQUEUE by MARS (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 26 Jul 94 13:03:22 +0500 From: "MACIEJ GORNY" Organization: Rowan College of NJ To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:03:16 EST Subject: BB2, debugger window and multisync monitor Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O I use Blitz2 on a 15".28 1280x1024 NI SVGA monitor, monitor driver I use is DBLNTSC LACED NO FLICKER with mode promotion, When I get a debugger window (the black box on the lower half of the screen) it is all screwed up: whole bunch of black boxes and lines totally unreadable. I tried to use different display modes, etc... but to no avail. It's a real pain to have to switch to standard NTSC mode/NO mode promotion, and having to use TWO monitors to do work. Am I missing something here? if somebody responds to it please send also to my personal account: gorny@saturn.rowan.edu for I don't have an immediate access to blitz- list. Thank you, thank you, thank you if you help me out? Maciej gorny@saturn.rowan.edu From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 22:11:47 1994 Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu (PO2.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.102]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA26050 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 22:11:21 +0300 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) id PAA17168 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:11:07 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix1.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix1.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.32.pmax.ul4.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix1.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix1.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:09:36 -0400 (EDT) From: William Nolan To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: games programming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O I don't know if anyone has seen it, but my game Commando Raid was finally put up on Aminet, it is in the game/shoot directory (I think as CommandoRaid.lha). Check it out... The other thing I was wondering is, is anyone at all interested in writing a game with me? I want to write either a horizontal or vertical scrolling shooter but I need someone with GOOD ability to design the graphics ... email me if you're interested. William Nolan (wn22@cmu.edu) From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 27 05:56:24 1994 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au (warrane.connect.com.au [192.189.54.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA09361 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 05:55:27 +0300 Received: from lsupoz.apana.org.au ([202.12.88.17]) by warrane.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA29950 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Jul 1994 12:55:22 +1000 Received: by alcove.apana.org.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0b03@alcove.apana.org.au>; Wed, 27 Jul 94 12:34:19 +1000 Date: Wed, 27 Jul 94 12:34:19 +1000 Message-Id: <9407272234.0b03@alcove.apana.org.au> X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 2.253) From: grn@alcove.apana.org.au (Geoffrey Newman) To: Blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO I've been given this as the address of the Blitz mailing list. How do I subscribe? -- Geoffrey Newman grn@alcove.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 27 10:34:51 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA17705 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 10:34:15 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HF6YHE2LFK002CXW@email.meto.govt.uk>; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 07:31:21 GMT Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 07:31:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Horrific BLIT problem!! To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HF6YHE87ZM002CXW@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O I.G.Baxter@massey.ac.nz wrote: > You are double buffering the screen arn't you? > If you are not then the disappearing blits could be nothing more than > a timing problem, i.e. the blits are being done AFTER the beam has passed > that area of the screen. No, I wasn't using double buffering - maybe I'll give it a try. But if I don't want to double buffer, how would I get around this problem? Just make sure the second blit is done as soon after the first as possible? -Matt. ________________________________________________________________________ / | | \ \ | Matthew O'Donnell | Tel: (44) 0344 856993 | / / | Hadley Centre, * Email: modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk | \ \ | UK Met. Office. | | / / | | \ \ | Working on following Blitz projects... | / / | Pingwynne [game - 98% complete] | \ \ | GhostBlaster [WB game - 15 % complete] | / / | Escape from planet Chegwin [game - in planning] | \ \_|____________________________________________________________________|_/ From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 27 11:53:21 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA20208 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 11:52:37 +0300 Received: from mailhost.aber.ac.uk (actually thorbb.dcs.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:44:06 +0100 To: Blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Life, Acid and BUM7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:43:59 +0100 Message-ID: <26500.775298639@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: Nigel Hughes X-Status: Status: RO Hello, Sorry to say I am back again, some poor sob has given me a job! Just a question for the Acid bods... OK so all registered users are going to get an update to Blitz2, OK so all BUM subscribers are going to get a little more, but when? Don't get me wrong, I think Acid are doing a great job, I mean there is not a whole truck load of you is there? Is the problem lack of contributions? Are we the users being lazy? The other worry I have is that as Acid have move their UK HQ, will my BUM subscription be lost AGAIN? Did the move go smoothly or do I have call and check? Good news about the debugger though! Any other additions? Date? And a question for those who know more than me (No Martin that is not EVERYONE). In BPLCON4 I can set some bits to say which colours sprites should use. As default for AGA modes they use $11, which is 240-255, how exactly does this work. And with all the hype, what are the features of AGA sprites, AND am I going to have any problems having 8 sprites on a 64 colour AGA display? Thanks for your help, and Acid you really are doing a good job. So please get BUM7 out ;) Nigel Hughes, Assistant Programmer DILS (Alegedly) From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 27 12:54:26 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA22352 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 12:53:50 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HF73CNJYDC002CXW@email.meto.govt.uk>; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:51:10 GMT Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:51:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Floppy disk progs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HF73CNL0YA002CXW@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O Greetings Blitz-folk, I'm having trouble transfering a Blitz game I've written to floppy-disk. I wrote in on an A1200 with hard drive, made an executable and put this and all the shape files it loads onto a floppy. When I then try running it from floppy, it loads the executable, then it loads something from the harddrive (I don't know what), then continues to load in the shapes from the floppy - and it runs ok. I then tried it on my friends A1200 without a hard drive, and after loading the executable it asks you to put in the workbench disk (or whatever you booted with) and it loads something, then crashes. (If I boot my friends machine with the Blitz Basic disk, it loads something from this, and then runs OK). The question is, what is it trying to load from the workbench disk? And why? Surely once you've made an executable it should run as a stand-alone program? Any clever people know whats going on? -Matt. ________________________________________________________________________ / | | \ \ | Matthew O'Donnell | Tel: (44) 0344 856993 | / / | Hadley Centre, * Email: modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk | \ \ | UK Met. Office. | | / / | | \ \ | Working on following Blitz projects... | / / | Pingwynne [game - 98% complete] | \ \ | GhostBlaster [WB game - 15 % complete] | / / | Escape from planet Chegwin [game - 0% complete] | \ \_|____________________________________________________________________|_/ From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 27 19:24:04 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA08011 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 19:20:24 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qTBc5-00032nC; Wed, 27 Jul 94 19:13 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 27 Jul 94 19:20:20 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 19:20:17 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Dir reading Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <3F5DA5737B2@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all! I need to examine a dir for certain files. Is there any commands in blitz like Examine and ExNext in C. I heard that DosElmore lib contained commands like this but where can I get this? Or is there any other solution for this problem ? Help!!! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From microlnk!OTT@anubis.kbfi.ee Thu Jul 28 18:24:29 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA08011 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 19:20:24 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qTBc5-00032nC; Wed, 27 Jul 94 19:13 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 27 Jul 94 19:20:20 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 19:20:17 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Dir reading Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <3F5DA5737B2@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all! I need to examine a dir for certain files. Is there any commands in blitz like Examine and ExNext in C. I heard that DosElmore lib contained commands like this but where can I get this? Or is there any other solution for this problem ? Help!!! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 27 05:52:10 1994 Received: from cc-server4.massey.ac.nz (cc-server4.massey.ac.nz [130.123.1.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA09247 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 05:51:34 +0300 Received: from smee.massey.ac.nz by cc-server4.massey.ac.nz (5.64+IDA-1.3.1) id AA10275; Wed, 27 Jul 94 14:51:23 +1200 Received: from SMEE/MAILQUEUE by smee.massey.ac.nz (Mercury 1.11); Wed, 27 Jul 94 14:51:26 GMT+12 Received: from MAILQUEUE by SMEE (Mercury 1.11); Wed, 27 Jul 94 14:51:12 GMT+12 Received: from [130.123.96.11] by smee.massey.ac.nz (Mercury 1.11); Wed, 27 Jul 94 14:51:09 GMT+12 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 14:51:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Ian Baxter" Sender: I.G.Baxter@massey.ac.nz Reply-To: I.G.Baxter@massey.ac.nz Message-Id: <53470.I.G.Baxter@massey.ac.nz> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Horrific BLIT problem!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Matt, Please forgive me is this sounds a bit obvious but... You are double buffering the screen arn't you? If you are not then the disappearing blits could be nothing more than a timing problem, i.e. the blits are being done AFTER the beam has passed that area of the screen. If you are buffering the screen then I dont have a clue to what the problem is. Hope that helps Ian. From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 28 03:44:50 1994 Received: from kai.ee.cit.ac.nz (kai.ee.cit.ac.nz [156.59.209.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA25138 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 03:44:38 +0300 Received: by kai.ee.cit.ac.nz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25699; Thu, 28 Jul 94 12:47:10 NZS Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 12:45:40 +1200 (NZST) From: Antony Cole Subject: unsubscribe To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO UNSUBSCRIBE ME !!!!!!! From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 28 05:23:48 1994 Received: from liero.cc.lut.fi (liero.cc.lut.fi [157.24.10.42]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id FAA28069 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 05:23:38 +0300 Received: from localhost (veijalai@localhost) by liero.cc.lut.fi (8.6.5/8.6.6/1.17.kim) id FAA05412; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 05:23:38 +0300 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 05:23:37 +0300 (EETDST) From: "(((KV)))" Subject: unsubscribe To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Status: Status: RO Unsubscribe... // veijalai@cc.lut.fi O=====<<=======================================-- \\ A500+/28/1+2/100/2.1 - C128 - CD³² =8^) From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 28 06:35:49 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA00063 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 06:35:09 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA24101 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 28 Jul 1994 13:30:24 -1000 Message-Id: <199407282330.AA24101@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: SoftWare Failure To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 13:25:58 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Help please, I keep having an error when playing animations. It comes up with error #80000020 Any ideas anyone. I can't find any info on this number in any book etc. Tom D duncan@usq.edu.au From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 28 13:32:55 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA14412 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 13:32:34 +0300 Received: from wyrm.cc.uow.edu.au by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Thu, 28 Jul 1994 13:32:12 +0300 Received: from wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au [130.130.68.6]) by wyrm.cc.uow.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA06992 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 20:26:55 +1000 From: Michaela Baginski Received: (u9352309@localhost) by wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id UAA02513 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 20:26:55 +1000 Message-Id: <199407281026.UAA02513@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au> Subject: unsubscribe To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 20:26:54 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 23 X-Status: Status: RO please unsubscribe me From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 28 16:55:40 1994 Received: from andrew.cmu.edu (ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.101]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA23423 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:55:26 +0300 Received: (from postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) id JAA04387 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 09:55:21 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 09:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 09:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 09:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.32.pmax.ul4.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix3.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix3.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 09:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 09:54:57 -0400 (EDT) From: William Nolan To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: library problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O I know this may be old for some of you but it's a problem I just encountered. I got the latest version of XPRZmodem and I tried to make a blitz library out of it using FDconv. So far so good ... then I ran makedeflibs (because libmanager wouldn't run, kept crashing), and then I tried using one of the commands in a blitz program. I typed out XProtocolSend_ and it converted it to some AddGadget_ command! Does anyone know what went wrong? William Nolan (wn22@cmu.edu) From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 29 03:31:44 1994 Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA14578 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 03:30:46 +0300 Received: from hareth (hareth.cm.deakin.edu.au [128.184.80.165]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA25922; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:30:11 +1000 From: Mark Kuzmycz Received: by hareth (5.0/client-1.3) id AA00962; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:30:10 --1000 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:30:10 --1000 Message-Id: <9407290030.AA00962@hareth> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Strings Cc: acid@iconz.co.nz X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII content-length: 839 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O I've been attempting to create strings outside of blitz and have come to the conclusion that I souldn't as Blitz crashes when it trys to free the string. With this in mind I have now proceeded to create a library to scan a block of memory extracting strings terminated with a new line (faster edit function). This is my current interpretation of the way command in a library work. Register A3 points to a tempory string. I can only assume that this is the string buffer. When a function, that returns a string, finishes it returns the string size in d0. The part that I'm not sure about is what does A3 return. I've seen other library code and for the library a3 returns a pointer to the last character in the string. Is this correct? Also could someone elaborate a bit more apon the tutorial for creating a library. Thanks Mark. From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 31 12:57:30 1994 Received: from serf.uccs.edu (serf.uccs.edu [128.198.1.117]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA23055 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 1994 12:56:37 +0300 Received: (from gawenzel@localhost) by serf.uccs.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA25630 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sun, 31 Jul 1994 03:56:32 -0600 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 03:56:32 -0600 From: Gerald A Wenzel Message-Id: <199407310956.DAA25630@serf.uccs.edu> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: What's going on here? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO I wrote a program which goes from "Blitz" mode to "Amiga" mode and then back to "Blitz" mode. When I ran the program, I got a guru. Now whenever I boot-up my Amiga I get the following message: DH0 has a checksum error on disk block 21543 So what's wrong with my Amiga now? Is this a serious problem? And how do I fix it? Thanks in advance (A LOT) gerald gawenzel@esprit.uccs.edu From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 31 20:22:15 1994 Received: from uunorth.north.net (uunorth.north.net [198.52.32.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA03528 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 1994 20:21:31 +0300 Received: from vef by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qUeZw-0002hBC; Sun, 31 Jul 94 13:21 EDT Received: from vvef by vef.vef.north.net id aa05527; 31 Jul 94 12:24 EDT From: Lynn Jennings To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Checksum errors Date: Sun, 31 Jul 94 12:28:19 EDT Message-ID: <9407311228.aa16732@village.vef.north.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO You might get checksum errors when switching from Amiga -> Blitz mode in the following fashion: (1) In Amiga mode, you begin reading or (more likely) writing a file, and while the computer is still flushing buffers you (2) Switch to Blitz mode, thus killing the OS, including disk activity, thus creating a damaged block(s) on the device still being used. To the avoid this problem in the future, you should wait before entering Blitz mode until all disk activity stops. Since there is no way of knowing this via the OS, most programmers simply pause before they shutdown the OS for 3-5 seconds. This provides sufficient delay for disks to stop spinning. I suspect that reading the Blitz manuals would have told you the same thing. To (attempt to) repair the damage you have caused your hard disk, you need a disk repair program such as the popular DiskSalv. If you know a lot about disk structure and the contents of any file(s) that were destroyed, you could also attempt to do this yourself with a disk editor. If you have an earlier version of the OS, you might have diskdoctor in your C directory. Delete it. You're better off getting one of the many freeware/shareware programs out there such as FixDisk or the already mentioned DiskSalv. Hope this helps, Christopher Jennings From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 1 05:47:09 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA17558 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 05:44:47 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA23476 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 1 Aug 1994 12:46:14 -1000 Message-Id: <199408012246.AA23476@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: List Error? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 12:41:28 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi, all I am having a problem with lists. (Sound familiar) Here is a demo piece of code. Pick the problem when running this little demo. y and z are not cleared. If you re-use the list you will get old values appearing. Bit of a worry this. NEWTYPE.fred x.b:y:z End NEWTYPE Dim List tom.fred(10) USEPATH tom() While AddFirst(tom()) \x=Rnd(5) : \y=Rnd(30) : \z=Rnd(90) Wend ResetList tom() Format "###" While NextItem(tom()) NPrint \x," ",\y," ",\z Wend ClearList tom() NPrint "" While AddFirst(tom()) \x=35 Wend ResetList tom() Format "###" While NextItem(tom()) NPrint \x," ",\y," ",\z Wend MouseWait End ANY IDEAS???? Tom Duncan duncan@usq.edu.au From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 1 12:22:28 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA00298 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 12:22:10 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 10:20:43 +0100 Message-Id: <24689.199408010916@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 10:16:01 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 01 Aug 94 09:14:00 BST Subject: Check Sum Errors To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O -------------------------------- ATTACHMENT -------------------------------- I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M Created: 01-Aug-1994 07:59am Sent: 01-Aug-1994 09:02am From: Matt Funnell FUNNELL ML@A1@UKA Dept: Dev + Prod Strategy I T Tel No: 781 3077 TO: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Checksum errors. I trashed one of my partitions a while ago and also received a checksum error. I used Disksalv and it totally screwed my harddisk up. After that, I did use an old(1990) version of FIXDISK and that solved all the checksum problems and recovered all my files with hardly any user interaction. From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 1 11:51:00 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA29014 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 11:50:36 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HFE0LUDD1S003LFC@email.meto.govt.uk>; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 08:47:44 GMT Date: Mon, 01 Aug 1994 08:47:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: `PUT'ting arrays To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HFE0LUE5ZM003LFC@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O Fellow Blitzers, Anyone know how to write an array to a file, using PUT? I've tried the following: Dim s(37,43) ; Fill 's' with the data etc. ok=OpenFile(0,"DH0:blitz2/data.dat") Fields 0,s Put 0,0 CloseFile 0 When I check the length of the file created, it is only 4 bytes. Can anyone see what the problem is? -Matt. ____________________________________________________________________________ ////////// Matthew O'Donnell |||||||||| modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk \\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 1 13:38:38 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA03634 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 13:38:16 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <28961-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 11:38:08 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 1 Aug 94 11:44:27 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 1 Aug 94 11:43:59 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 11:43:50 GMT0BST Subject: To the Steves: RILibs (Reflective) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <265121FF1@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi guys, I just started using your many blitz libs over the weekend, and I must say they are fantastic 8) Keep it up lads. I have a couple of questions and problems tho. 1. The UnpackIFF and Cludge functions are great for adding caching support to my game. Have you considered adding functions for music modules and sprites? Also, have you considering adding compression and/or encription to the decompressing routines, which would allow data to be both small and safe on disk, and take up less memory when cached in fast mem? 2. I converted my anim display functions to use your libs rather than the blitz one (I'm interested in the fastmem support), but the results were all jerky on playback. In my game, in the data1 subdirectory, I think the file (if my memory serves me correct) is gfx18 which is an 27 frame op5 anim. Could you have a go at playing this back? Thats about it. I have some more ideas, I'll post them soon. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 1 13:44:18 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA03957 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 13:44:10 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <29073-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 11:44:06 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 1 Aug 94 11:50:25 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 1 Aug 94 11:50:05 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 11:50:01 GMT0BST Subject: Bum6/screen problem Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <27F196388@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, Up until now, I've been using the deflibs file that came with bum6 with no probs whatsoever. However, last weekend I decided to add some more libs to my blitzlist userlib directory. After recompiling the deflibs, I hit on a problem. When running any blitz program (either old slice based or display lib based), on my system which runs in hires, the blitz programs fail to open a pal lowres screen properly (they mode promote when they shouldn't). However, if I copy the bum6 deflibs back, all programs work fine. I checked that all the blitzlibs files are present and correct, and nothing seems to be missing. Any ideas why this is happening? I even took out the userlibs files I added, recompiled the deflibs (resulting in a file approximately the same size as the bum6 version), and it still didn't work. Its not serious, I just run WB in lowres when working on my game, but I'm interested in why its happening. Bye for now lads 8) P.S. for all those still using slices, move over to the new displaylibs, they are great 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 1 16:48:38 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA14839 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 16:44:47 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 14:43:14 +0100 Message-Id: <26193.199408011338@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 14:38:34 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 01 Aug 94 14:24:00 BST Subject: BUM6 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O This BUM6 and the new library routines, where can I get them and information about them from? Aminet? I have yet to send off my registration card. Thanx in advance, Matt. From hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Tue Aug 2 16:49:36 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA17748 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 1994 16:23:49 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HFFOG1T2WW003KR9@email.meto.govt.uk>; Tue, 2 Aug 1994 13:21:03 GMT Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 13:21:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Bitplane question To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HFFOG1U5HU003KR9@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO Hi people, Q. Is there any way of converting a shape to a different number of bitplanes? I've got lots of 8 colour (3 bitplane) shapes, and I want to Blit them onto a 1 bitplane bitmap, so where the original shape was colour 0 it stays 0, and everything else becomes colour 1. Any ideas? Thanx, Matthew. ____________________________________________________________________________ ////////// Matthew O'Donnell |||||||||| modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk \\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From microlnk!OTT@anubis.kbfi.ee Thu Aug 4 17:04:12 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA09470 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:35:21 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qVarY-0001y7C; Wed, 3 Aug 94 10:35 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 3 Aug 94 10:25:59 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:25:56 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Shape loading Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <494F2A313E6@microlnk.ml.ee> X-Status: Status: O Hi all! I know this problem is already discussed here but..just to make sure: Is there any way to load shapes without using the LoadShapes command (I just need it, don't ask me why :) What I want to do is just alloc some chip mem and then load shape data as binary into it. Now is there some way to tell blitz that I have my shapes starting at mem I allocated (like CludegeMedModule works). Any help is welcome! Tahnx! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 3 10:36:09 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA09470 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:35:21 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qVarY-0001y7C; Wed, 3 Aug 94 10:35 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 3 Aug 94 10:25:59 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:25:56 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Shape loading Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <494F2A313E6@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all! I know this problem is already discussed here but..just to make sure: Is there any way to load shapes without using the LoadShapes command (I just need it, don't ask me why :) What I want to do is just alloc some chip mem and then load shape data as binary into it. Now is there some way to tell blitz that I have my shapes starting at mem I allocated (like CludegeMedModule works). Any help is welcome! Tahnx! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From John@ELIZA.demon.co.uk Thu Aug 4 17:04:11 1994 Received: from eliza.demon.co.uk (eliza.demon.co.uk [158.152.20.244]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA15253 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 16:37:20 +0300 Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 14:33:31 GMT Message-ID: <208@ELIZA.demon.co.uk> From: John@ELIZA.demon.co.uk (John Carron) Reply-To: John@ELIZA.demon.co.uk To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: AGA Sprites Lines: 18 X-Mailer: PCElm 3.01 (1.5 DIS) X-Status: Status: O Hello, I`ve been trying to get a dual playfield slice together with more than 4 bitplanes in the background bitmap. This didn`t seem to be possible until I tried using the new AGA screen commands which seem to do exactly what I want however my sprites no longer appear. Are them some new AGA sprite commands I don`t know about and also are there a set of AGA screen fade commands??? Could I have more than 8 lo-res sprites with AGA? Thanks in advance, John. John Carron From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 3 16:37:50 1994 Received: from eliza.demon.co.uk (eliza.demon.co.uk [158.152.20.244]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA15253 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 16:37:20 +0300 Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 14:33:31 GMT Message-ID: <208@ELIZA.demon.co.uk> From: John@ELIZA.demon.co.uk (John Carron) Reply-To: John@ELIZA.demon.co.uk To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: AGA Sprites Lines: 18 X-Mailer: PCElm 3.01 (1.5 DIS) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hello, I`ve been trying to get a dual playfield slice together with more than 4 bitplanes in the background bitmap. This didn`t seem to be possible until I tried using the new AGA screen commands which seem to do exactly what I want however my sprites no longer appear. Are them some new AGA sprite commands I don`t know about and also are there a set of AGA screen fade commands??? Could I have more than 8 lo-res sprites with AGA? Thanks in advance, John. John Carron From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 09:05:12 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA01403 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:04:36 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1575; Thu, 04 Aug 94 09:03:08 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 1572; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:03:08 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4284; Wed, 03 Aug 94 18:07:12 EDT Message-Id: <03AUG94.19569235.0064.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 18:07:10 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Calling other programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O I haven't seen this in the manuals yet, so I might as well as you guys, maybe you'll know. Is it possible to call other programs from within another? Is PLoad the way,using RIBLitz libs? Or is there another way? Nelson Santos From <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:BB4H@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Thu Aug 4 17:03:23 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA01403 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:04:36 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1575; Thu, 04 Aug 94 09:03:08 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 1572; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:03:08 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4284; Wed, 03 Aug 94 18:07:12 EDT Message-Id: <03AUG94.19569235.0064.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 18:07:10 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Calling other programs X-Status: Status: O I haven't seen this in the manuals yet, so I might as well as you guys, maybe you'll know. Is it possible to call other programs from within another? Is PLoad the way,using RIBLitz libs? Or is there another way? Nelson Santos From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 09:50:50 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA04149 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:50:40 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qVwdg-0002rNC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:50 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 4 Aug 94 9:51:15 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:51:11 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: Shape loading Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <4AC5ED731B2@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > To do a cludge shape command you will need to allocate your own memory, > and then fill in the shape object structure by hand, the object is in the > appendix of the reference manual. > > Do you want a CludgeShape command? > CludgeShape(s) would be cool! BTW I think it would be cool if one could "Cludge" every blitz object (like samples,shapes,bitmaps etc.) - for example if I want to use 10 samples then I have to load them all one by one. More cooler way I think is to make one linked sample, then alloc some chip and then CludgeSample sam#,Addr. Bye for now! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 10:45:31 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA07831 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 10:45:01 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 08:43:37 +0100 Message-Id: <17540.199408040738@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 08:38:56 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 04 Aug 94 08:32:00 BST Subject: Re: Floppy disk problems To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O >> I had used the GTScroller commands, thus the exe file contains the >> library file gadtools.library. > Ummm, gadtools.library is in ROM isn't it?????? Possibly - not quite sure. But it's also in my libs: directory. ALSO - a couple of asm questions.... ~~~~ 1. Does anyone know about using the trace bit(s) /vector, for trapping each command the 680x0 runs. I think the 68000 uses bit 15 but the other processors use bits 14 and 15. 2. How do you gain access to the SR and PC when the trace interrupt has been called? 3. Will this sort of program run under blitz basic? Can anyone help? - Thanx in advance.... Matt. From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 11:46:20 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA11803 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 11:46:02 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HFI4W4YSEO003OSW@email.meto.govt.uk>; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 07:33:44 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Aug 1994 07:33:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Floppy disk progs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HFI4W504MQ003OSW@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O I wrote: > I then tried it on my friends A1200 without a hard drive, and after loading > the executable it asks you to put in the workbench disk (or whatever you > booted with) and it loads something, then crashes. > > The question is, what is it trying to load from the workbench disk? And > why? Surely once you've made an executable it should run as a stand-alone > program? I've tried running SnoopDOS and the file it is trying to load in is 'LIBS:diskfont.library'. So I made a LIBS drawer on my floppy disk, and copied this file into it. BUT when I run my executable prog., it still asks for the boot disk to be replaced, even though the file it is looking for is available already on my game disk!! Why doesn't it look there first? Is there any way of making sure that is does? Thanx, Matthew. ____________________________________________________________________________ ////////// Matthew O'Donnell |||||||||| modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk \\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Thu Aug 4 21:33:42 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA11803 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 11:46:02 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HFI4W4YSEO003OSW@email.meto.govt.uk>; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 07:33:44 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Aug 1994 07:33:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Floppy disk progs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HFI4W504MQ003OSW@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O I wrote: > I then tried it on my friends A1200 without a hard drive, and after loading > the executable it asks you to put in the workbench disk (or whatever you > booted with) and it loads something, then crashes. > > The question is, what is it trying to load from the workbench disk? And > why? Surely once you've made an executable it should run as a stand-alone > program? I've tried running SnoopDOS and the file it is trying to load in is 'LIBS:diskfont.library'. So I made a LIBS drawer on my floppy disk, and copied this file into it. BUT when I run my executable prog., it still asks for the boot disk to be replaced, even though the file it is looking for is available already on my game disk!! Why doesn't it look there first? Is there any way of making sure that is does? Thanx, Matthew. ____________________________________________________________________________ ////////// Matthew O'Donnell |||||||||| modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk \\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 10:58:12 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA08617 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 10:57:57 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <29176-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 08:57:47 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 4 Aug 94 9:04:11 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 4 Aug 94 9:03:53 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:03:52 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Shape loading Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <14BC6E3032@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > To do a cludge shape command you will need to allocate your own memory, > and then fill in the shape object structure by hand, the object is in the > appendix of the reference manual. There is already a nice CludgeShape command, its in the Reflective Images (I hope I got that name right) RILibs extensions. It works nicely too. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 11:03:41 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA09026 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 11:03:25 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <29212-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:03:18 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 4 Aug 94 9:09:43 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 4 Aug 94 9:09:19 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:09:13 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Problems with blitting blocks fast enough for HW scroller Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <14D3A25BDA@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > The problem seems to be that "block" doesn't blit to the screen > fast enough. I'm trying to blit 20 blocks across the bottom of the > screen (just out of view), and across the top of the screen (again > just out of view. I'm therefore trying to blit 40 blocks at once. Sounds painful to me. > When the scrolling is going, there is a very very minor jerk, > (hardly noticeble, but I can see it, and I don't like it!). This > doesn't occur if I blit only 18 blocks on top and bottom (36 in > total). > I could just reduce the width of my displayed screen by 32 > pixels, but would like full screen (and even overscan if possible), > but "block" isn't fast enough. You are painting off the visible screen are you? Well you'd have to, to get smooth pixel scrolling. If not, just allocate a bitmap bigger than the visible screen by 2 16pixel blocks in all directions, and blit into the furthest 16pixel area. > What I would like to know is this: Is there an even faster > blitting command than block?? > How have other people got around this problem?? If scrolling at 16pixels per frame is what you want, you don't have much choice really. However, if 16 pixels every 2 or 4 frames is okay (and thats still pretty fast), why not break down the bits into groups. So, if going at 16 pixels every 4 frames, break down the blits into equal sizes of 4 groups of blits. Save heaps of time. Theres are more clever ways in which to do 8way scrolling, which I'm trying to perfect now. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 11:09:41 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA09498 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 11:09:25 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <29292-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:09:18 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 4 Aug 94 9:15:42 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 4 Aug 94 9:15:15 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:15:07 GMT0BST Subject: DisplayLib/Copper question Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <14ECF65DC8@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, I have been improving the hardware scrolling in my game over the last few days. I found a few tricks to give me about 50% speed increase over what I had before, and I also discovered a lovely way to get the vertical scrolling part, by using the copper. Which leads me to my first problem. How do I go about programming the copper in my game, which makes use of the new DisplayLibs??? I know that there are a few copper instructions in the slices area of the manual, and I tried inserted a simple colour split to test to see if it would work, but the debugger flagged it as an error, so I assume it won't. I need to setup a copper list badly for my scrolling idea. Nothing too complicated, just changing a few points at a few points on the screen. But how?? Nest question for Acid Software: Finally, is there an equivalent command to ShowBlitz for the new display library? (Note that ShowBlitz seems to crash when run in displaylib based programs). My game jumps into AMIGA mode to pop up some requestors, and I need to restore the display properly when coming back into BLITZ, otherwise, the screen is screwed...... Thanks. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 15:28:39 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA06517 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 15:28:11 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <03524-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 13:27:37 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 4 Aug 94 13:34:02 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 4 Aug 94 13:33:59 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 13:33:54 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Shape loading Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <193CFC3BB4@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > > There is already a nice CludgeShape command, its in the Reflective > > Images (I hope I got that name right) RILibs extensions. It works > > nicely too. > > > Which ver? I have V3 (I think) and as far as I know it has no > CludgeShape command. Is there new version around or do I have to > register or what? Yes, its a newer version. On behalf of Steve, I'll fetch in the latest libs and make them available on my ftp site. I'll announce this tomorrow. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 09:54:46 1994 Received: from artemis.edu.uch.gr (artemis-gw.edu.uch.gr [147.52.80.112]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA04440 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:54:37 +0300 From: kaputnik@ikaros.edu.uch.gr Received: from ikaros.edu.uch.gr by artemis.edu.uch.gr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19042; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:56:08 -0500 Received: by ikaros.edu.uch.gr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22351; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:51:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:51:31 -0500 Message-Id: <9408041451.AA22351@ikaros.edu.uch.gr> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O UNSUBSCRIBE From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 5 03:30:24 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA24292 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 03:29:57 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA02059 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 5 Aug 1994 10:31:01 -1000 Message-Id: <199408052031.AA02059@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: Window problems To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 10:25:44 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi All, Has anyone had any problems opening and closing windows within statements or Functions. My machine seem to crash doing this sometimes. Any ideas anyone? Tom Duncan duncan@usq.edu.au From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 5 03:34:56 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA24373 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 03:34:42 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA02112 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 5 Aug 1994 10:32:46 -1000 Message-Id: <199408052032.AA02112@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: "neil o'rourke" Subject: SUBSCRIBE To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 10:27:29 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 5 10:49:59 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA17945 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 10:49:42 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 08:48:12 +0100 Message-Id: <26411.199408050743@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 08:43:29 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 05 Aug 94 08:35:00 BST Subject: ASLFileRequester. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O >Hi All, > Has anyone had any problems opening and closing windows within > statements or Functions. My machine seem to crash doing this sometimes. > Any ideas anyone? That reminds me, I found the same thing with ASLFileRequest$. Put it in a statement and it runs then gurus, put it in the main prog and no problem! Also, where can I get these RILibs from? Every one seems to be talking about them and all these new commands. Matt. From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 5 10:37:59 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA17318 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 10:37:35 +0300 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually mailsun.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Aug 1994 08:37:33 +0100 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Display Library Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 08:37:31 +0100 Message-ID: <5156.776072251@aber.ac.uk> From: NIGEL HUGHES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hello guys, Just a quick question. I am using Display lib (excellent stuff) for a game I am writing, and all of a sudden a problem appeared. When I quick the program I get a blank screen, if you click on the unseen screen-to-back gadget up pops the blitz screen or wb screen if run as an executable. This suddenly seemed to start doing this so it MUST be something I am doing as it didn't do it to start with. The other note for Acid is... Is there any chance of including some '020 and '030 instructions/addressing modes into Blitz on the assembler side, the game I am writing would benefit muchly from them. Many thanks, Nigel Hughes From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 5 11:15:05 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA19612 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 11:14:53 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <11573-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 09:14:49 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 5 Aug 94 9:21:13 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 5 Aug 94 9:20:51 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 09:20:45 GMT0BST Subject: Latest version of RILibs available Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <2D05894FC0@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, On behalf of Reflective Images (the two Steves 8^), I've put the latest version of their RILibs extensions for blitz on my ftp server. This is only available on weekdays (UK) from around 9am to 6pm, but it will do until it reachs aminet I imagine. I have also put the blitz amigaguide document (I forget the author now) which ware released recently, the one which listed all the third party blitzlibs. If you want to out your own blitz programs or lib extensions on this site, then feel free to. This site is currently unformatted (just one directory), but if demand is high enough, I could structure it a little better and call it the blitz site 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk Fri Aug 5 12:09:18 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA19612 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 11:14:53 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <11573-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 09:14:49 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 5 Aug 94 9:21:13 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 5 Aug 94 9:20:51 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 09:20:45 GMT0BST Subject: Latest version of RILibs available Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <2D05894FC0@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, On behalf of Reflective Images (the two Steves 8^), I've put the latest version of their RILibs extensions for blitz on my ftp server. This is only available on weekdays (UK) from around 9am to 6pm, but it will do until it reachs aminet I imagine. I have also put the blitz amigaguide document (I forget the author now) which ware released recently, the one which listed all the third party blitzlibs. If you want to out your own blitz programs or lib extensions on this site, then feel free to. This site is currently unformatted (just one directory), but if demand is high enough, I could structure it a little better and call it the blitz site 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 5 13:43:40 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA29698 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:41:41 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HFJPN1MB6O00413Z@email.meto.govt.uk>; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 10:38:53 GMT Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 10:38:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: RILibs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HFJPN1NX1U00413Z@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O Matt wrote: > Also, where can I get these RILibs from? Every one seems to be > talking about them and all these new commands. You can get them by ftp from wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4) in /dev/basic. I think they are version 1.1 -different Matt. ____________________________________________________________________________ ////////// Matthew O'Donnell |||||||||| modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk \\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Fri Aug 5 14:24:20 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA29698 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:41:41 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HFJPN1MB6O00413Z@email.meto.govt.uk>; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 10:38:53 GMT Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 10:38:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: RILibs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HFJPN1NX1U00413Z@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O Matt wrote: > Also, where can I get these RILibs from? Every one seems to be > talking about them and all these new commands. You can get them by ftp from wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4) in /dev/basic. I think they are version 1.1 -different Matt. ____________________________________________________________________________ ////////// Matthew O'Donnell |||||||||| modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk \\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Fri Aug 5 15:09:40 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA29698 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:41:41 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HFJPN1MB6O00413Z@email.meto.govt.uk>; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 10:38:53 GMT Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 10:38:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: RILibs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HFJPN1NX1U00413Z@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O Matt wrote: > Also, where can I get these RILibs from? Every one seems to be > talking about them and all these new commands. You can get them by ftp from wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4) in /dev/basic. I think they are version 1.1 -different Matt. ____________________________________________________________________________ ////////// Matthew O'Donnell |||||||||| modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk \\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 5 14:18:39 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA02480 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 14:18:15 +0300 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually mailsun.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Aug 1994 12:18:03 +0100 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Display Library Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 12:18:00 +0100 Message-ID: <14584.776085480@aber.ac.uk> From: NIGEL HUGHES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Acid, HA! What kind of an answer is that ? *8) Never mind, so it was of those awkward bugs that just hang around being, um, awkward. Never mind, I am not exiting with RMB though, but with the fire button in Port 2. Jeez can't stand computers my self. '020 instructions, well, ah oh, I was chatting to this chap and he was going over my bits of code and he says, "You're writing this for a 1200 or above right" , I say "RIGHT!", he says why don't you use any 020 stuff in there, my face fell and I looked at my feet as I realised, I don't have a list of the 020 OR 030 instructions set/addressing modes, I just know they are really cool, or so I have heard. BUT! I am going to London today so if I see a book with them thangs in you fancy giving it a go? Has anyone got a details as above for 020/030/040? I'd love ya forever. Bye bye, Nigel Hughes. -This message was brought to you by Nobby the scurrying mailer daemon and his little brother Trevor. Sorry it's a bit burned. From nlh1@aber.ac.uk Fri Aug 5 15:54:31 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA02480 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 14:18:15 +0300 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually mailsun.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Aug 1994 12:18:03 +0100 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Display Library Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 12:18:00 +0100 Message-ID: <14584.776085480@aber.ac.uk> From: NIGEL HUGHES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Acid, HA! What kind of an answer is that ? *8) Never mind, so it was of those awkward bugs that just hang around being, um, awkward. Never mind, I am not exiting with RMB though, but with the fire button in Port 2. Jeez can't stand computers my self. '020 instructions, well, ah oh, I was chatting to this chap and he was going over my bits of code and he says, "You're writing this for a 1200 or above right" , I say "RIGHT!", he says why don't you use any 020 stuff in there, my face fell and I looked at my feet as I realised, I don't have a list of the 020 OR 030 instructions set/addressing modes, I just know they are really cool, or so I have heard. BUT! I am going to London today so if I see a book with them thangs in you fancy giving it a go? Has anyone got a details as above for 020/030/040? I'd love ya forever. Bye bye, Nigel Hughes. -This message was brought to you by Nobby the scurrying mailer daemon and his little brother Trevor. Sorry it's a bit burned. From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 5 15:43:48 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09062 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 15:43:38 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <14631-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:43:34 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:49:58 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:49:55 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:49:51 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Latest version of RILibs available Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <3181A7447A@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Sorry, I think I may have left my address off my previous letter. How stupid. Its cekift.swan.ac.uk Anyway, my machine has developed a fault, and is going back to be repaired next week, and will be unavailable for most of this week. So if you want to libs, grab them today!!! 8) +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Sat Aug 6 15:43:12 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA07294 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 1994 15:41:38 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <21341-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Sat, 6 Aug 1994 14:41:22 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA36495; Sat, 6 Aug 1994 14:37:19 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 6 Aug 94 14:40:49 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 6 Aug 94 14:40:16 GMT-1DFT From: "j.valks" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 18:32:24 Subject: Re: Window problems Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <3C095BC04EA@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > Hi All, > Has anyone had any problems opening and closing windows within > statements or Functions. My machine seem to crash doing this sometimes. > Any ideas anyone? > Nope, works perfect! Greetings from: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) Blitz2 AmigaGuide file PC : Diropus for PC ----------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sat Aug 6 03:55:28 1994 Received: from cs.uml.edu (cs.uml.edu [129.63.1.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA13689 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 1994 03:54:34 +0300 Received: by cs.uml.edu id AA20959 (5.67a+/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Fri, 5 Aug 1994 20:54:26 -0400 From: Ralph Barbagallo Message-Id: <199408060054.AA20959@cs.uml.edu> Subject: hey To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 20:54:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hey, a few questions... I lost my original Blitz BASIC 2 registration form. Who do I mail to register? Can I do it without the original form? Also, can someone send me some shape collision code? I'm trying to code a collision detection routine for my invaders game, but the collision section of the reference guide is painfully terse. I need some SIMPLE examples. Oh, and why do Caffiene Free and Insectoids refuse to run on my 4000? BTW, is it possible to unsubscribe my nugget@genesis.tiac.net account and sign up my school one here insteads? I can't seem to send messages to the list from my other account. (This one is rbarbaga@cs.uml.edu) From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 8 23:14:14 1994 Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.220.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA22915 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 23:13:41 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id WAA01503; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 22:13:40 +0200 Received: by xs.multi.se (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0o9i@xs.multi.se>; Mon, 8 Aug 94 22:04:41 MET Received: by tfd.multi.se (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0a38@tfd.multi.se>; Sun, 7 Aug 94 00:00:52 MET Message-Id: <9408062300.0a38@tfd.multi.se> Date: 07 Aug 94 00:01:37 CET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: The Fourth Dimension, Gråbo, Sweden X-Mailer: AmiGate 0.16a (7.3.94) From: mats@tfd.multi.se (Mats Persson) To: BLITZ-LIST@HELSINKI.FI Subject: New TED 1.1 gurus! Why? X-Status: Status: RO I just installed BUM6 on my system today. I have a A4000/040 which I run in DoublePAL mode. The new TED 1.1 gurus every time with a 'privilige violation'. Is this happening to anyone else? What could be the problem? Now I have to run compiler 1.80 together with Ted 1.0. ____ ___ _______ _____ / \ / \/ \/ \ Fido: 2:203/319.9 / \ / . \__ __/\ __/ Internet: mats@tfd.multi.se / | | \/ \/ \ \ \ \__|__|__/\___|___/\___/____\ \ / \ \_______________________________/ From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 8 13:38:54 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA15578 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 13:38:15 +0300 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually mailsun.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Aug 1994 11:38:10 +0100 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: 68020 stuff. Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:38:08 +0100 Message-ID: <2007.776342288@aber.ac.uk> From: NIGEL HUGHES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hello there, Thanks to the chap who gave me the aminet file, should help. Does anyone know how the CD32 chunky screen thing works, does it take an area of memory you have treated as chunky, and copy it to an area of memory, but in planar form? Or do you just say, hey this screen is chunky, sort it out yourself maty, and convert it on the fly? Acid might be best placed to answer this. Have you all heard? The UK management by-out has got the big C! They plan to be back to normal by Novemeber, well here's hoping! Nigel Hughes From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 8 15:49:12 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA26652 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:48:34 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qXU84-0003ejC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 15:48 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 8 Aug 94 15:44:45 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:44:44 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Bitmap problem Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <512450D7A37@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all! I can't display 64 pic (6 plane ) AGA pic. I'm usin this so called new display lib commands like initcoplist and createdisplay. Code looks like this: Bitmap 0,576,464,6 InitCopList 0,31,128,$10008+$10,8,64,0 CreateDisplay 0 DisplayBitmap 0,0,0,0 What I need to do is display 6 plane pic but it only displays correclty if I make 8 plane bitmap. So if I set plane # from 1 to 7 then there's my pic + some crap. Problem is that I need this bitmap to be VERY big and in fact I need 2 of them . So it's complete waste of da good old chip mem if I must have 8 plane bitmap insted of 6. So does anybody know what I'm doing wrong? Do I have to set some extra bits in type when initing cop list? Help!!! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 8 18:01:14 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA07146 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 17:58:48 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qXWA2-0003XpC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:58 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:54:18 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 17:54:15 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: ASM problem?? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <5146DD24D0E@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O HI! Just wondering if I'm doing something worng or are things meant to be like this: I have little statement for plotting...erm plots. So i checked out next thing: Instead of calling the statement i copied the whole routine to main loop - now it turned out that the thing is SLOWER!!! So what is this?? Are asm only statements faster than asm + basic code?? In fact it seems like mixed asm and basic code is not usable at all (at least in main loop when U have to do thing s 50 x in sec). Comments??? O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 9 13:34:02 1994 Received: from kruuna.helsinki.fi (kruuna [128.214.4.112]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA07600 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 13:32:30 +0300 Received: (mmmakela@localhost) by kruuna.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) id NAA27885 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 13:32:29 +0300 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199408091032.NAA27885@kruuna.helsinki.fi> Subject: FLASH!! PSSSSHHHH... To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 13:32:28 +0300 (EET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 237 X-Status: Status: O Beware of thunder guys ! My A3000 broke down because of ligthing a week ago (I guess my girlfriend had prayed it). I will still try to administer this list atleast once a week though, via (horror) pcs we have at work & school. -Mikko From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 9 15:23:31 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA16799 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 15:23:08 +0300 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 13:21:06 +0100 Message-Id: <94080913210678@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Big Will Riker) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: BLoad bug X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O F.T.A.O anybody using BLoad on a network (esp. the guy who told me of the problem - sorry mate, lost the original message) The bug has been fixed. It twas me being stupid as usual - I was thinking that the Lock() type would be the same as Open() so I was using 1005 or whatever when I should have been using -1. Oops. Silly me. Anybody who would like a copy of the update can either mail me direct, or in about 7 days time can FTP the library set from Martin Kifts FTP site at CEKIFT.SWAN.AC.UK Steve. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Steven Matty from Reflective Images A.K.A Big Will Riker | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6Mb/33FPU/Blitz2 | Current Project : BlitzBombers AGA | | | [#############################:::::] | | | Current Project : BlitzLibs V4 | | sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [############################::::::] | | sis3147@[149.197.159.14] | Current Project : 68030 Fund | | | [###########################:::::::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 9 14:26:27 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA11648 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 14:25:55 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <06888-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:25:28 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 9 Aug 94 12:31:51 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 9 Aug 94 12:31:41 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:31:39 GMT0BST Subject: Re: New TED 1.1 gurus! Why? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <9036972896@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > I just installed BUM6 on my system today. I have a A4000/040 which I run in > DoublePAL mode. The new TED 1.1 gurus every time with a 'privilige > violation'. Yep, it does that on mine too. I generally run WB in multisync mode, which Ted likes and runs beautifully in. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 9 17:03:27 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA24678 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 17:00:35 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qXrj9-0003ByC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 17:00 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 9 Aug 94 17:00:41 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 17:00:36 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: Bitmap problem Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <52B897D361C@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > >Bitmap 0,576,464,6 > >InitCopList 0,31,128,$10008+$10,8,64,0 > > Quick question - why do you init the coplist with 8 bitplane pointers? $10008 > sets up an 8 bitplane AGA colour display. Surely you want $10006? Aarghh....well that was lame of me...yes..well..I had no docs... Anyway thanx! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 9 18:35:39 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA00555 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 18:35:12 +0300 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 16:35:53 +0100 Message-Id: <94080916355327@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Big Will Riker) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Here's a coupla statements which may prove useful to all you brilliant Blitz coders out there. Basically it performs the ColSplit command but on AGA displays. Don't ask me why you need a display x2 as high, perhaps its AGA being crummy. Perhaps its me being crummy. Anyway, enough of this crap. Here it is..... NEWTYPE .rgbcomp ; Cos blitz cant r.w ; pass >6 params g.w b.w END NEWTYPE DEFTYPE .rgbcomp agacolour1,agacolour2 ; Start and End cols ; Pass the coplist number ; Plus y-start, y-end and a colour number Statement AGAColSplit {clist.l,y1.w,y2.w,colnum.w} SHARED agacolour1,agacolour2 r1.w=agacolour1\r g1.w=agacolour1\g b1.w=agacolour1\b r2.w=agacolour2\r g2.w=agacolour2\g b2.w=agacolour2\b rs.q=((r2-r1)/(y2-y1)) gs.q=((g2-g1)/(y2-y1)) bs.q=((b2-b1)/(y2-y1)) ; Calculate step values rc.q=r1 gc.q=g1 bc.q=b1 PaletteInfo 0 ; Needed to get AGAPalRed etc ro.w=AGAPalRed(colnum) go.w=AGAPalGreen(colnum) bo.w=AGAPalBlue(colnum) ; Store the old values For h.w=y1 To y2 AGAPalRGB 0,colnum,Int(rc),Int(gc),Int(bc) CustomColors clist,8*(h-y1),h,0,colnum,1 ; Dont ask me how... rc+rs ; Each instruction is 8 bytes (we hope) gc+gs bc+bs Next h AGAPalRGB 0,0,ro,go,bo ; Restore the originals End Statement Function.l CCSize {height.l} ; Used to calc Function Return height*8 ; Size of CustomCop instructions End Function .e.g InitCopList 0,44,256*2,$10008,8,256,CCSize{256} ;The last parameter allocates memory for Custom copperlist instructions ;which (with no thanks to ACID) is used by CustomColors. ; for some unkown reason, we need to create the display twice as high ; but makes no difference to the display though agacolour1\r=0 agacolour1\g=0 agacolour1\b=0 agacolour2\r=255 agacolour2\g=255 agacolour2\b=255 AGAColSplit{0,0,255,0} ; Use coplist 0, from 0 to 255 ; using colour 0 CreateDisplay 0 And there you go! Try it out and let us know if it works or not. From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 10 00:31:26 1994 Received: from alsvid.scu.edu.au (alsvid.scu.edu.au [203.2.33.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA17444 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 1994 00:30:51 +0300 Received: by alsvid.scu.edu.au id AA11067 (5.65c8+/IDA-1.4.4 for helsinki.fi!blitz-list); Wed, 10 Aug 1994 07:30:44 +1000 Received: by wnet.edex.edu.au with UUCP (\/<>\/ SmailAmiga 1.02j21) id ; Wed, 10 Aug 1994 04:34:41 +1000 Received: by fulink.edex.edu.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <01de@fulink.edex.edu.au>; Wed, 10 Aug 94 03:08:52 +1000 Message-Id: <9408101308.01de@fulink.edex.edu.au> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 94 03:08:52 +1000 From: mike@fulink.edex.edu.au (Mike Hall) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: subscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO subscribe --- hmm... does this auto add me or what? -- __ .------------------------------------------------. __/// o_,| Sysop of Future Link | 3:640/944, 61-75-382097 | \XX/ ,\\ike Hall ; Wed, 10 Aug 1994 05:53:08 +0300 From: MyxxMatch@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.online.portal.com [156.151.5.5]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA14081 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 19:53:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.60) id TAA05635 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 19:53:01 -0700 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: unsubscribe Lines: 12 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:52:59 PDT Message-ID: <9408091952.3.5139@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO please unsub me. MyxxMatch (Jeffrey S. Morgan & Kristin Morgan) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Argue your limitations and sure enough, they're yours. R. Bach ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 11 00:05:27 1994 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA07756 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 00:04:57 +0300 Received: by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.8.1/Netcom) id OAA23598; Wed, 10 Aug 1994 14:05:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 14:05:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Adrian Green Subject: BLITZ LIST To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO subscribe me to the list adrgrn@netcom.com From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 11 13:01:47 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA18214 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 12:59:34 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 10:58:05 +0100 Message-Id: <7454.199408110953@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 10:53:15 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 11 Aug 94 10:46:00 BST Subject: Cool way to swap... To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO hi there, just seen swapping routine in a PC Visual Basic manual at work and wondered if anyone else knew of the routine..... NORMAL SWAP Cool Swap ----------- --------- temp = a a = a xor b b = a b = b xor a a = temp a = a xor b This new routine actually gets rid of the 3rd variable and 'could' reduce the processing time?? I problem is is that it can only work on numbers NOT strings - or could it? - who knows, who cares! From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 11 16:20:53 1994 Received: from sol.newcastle.edu.au (sol.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.96.103]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA05777 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 16:20:27 +0300 Received: from sage.newcastle.edu.au by sol.newcastle.edu.au with SMTP id AA28677 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 11 Aug 1994 23:20:21 +1000 From: Brett Johansen Message-Id: <199408111320.AA28677@sol.newcastle.edu.au> Subject: RI-mapeditor true v1.0 material!! To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 23:20:20 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi, This may be OLD news but the RI-mapeditor has some serious problems running on my 1200 - Pal (6megs 881). - On starting the create/load map window is all stuffed up The fonts are out of wack and so the buttons are wrong. Selecting "create" causes a hang :) - So "load" and cancel a few times take me to the menus eventually (because I have no maps :) ) - Selecting new map from menu is a bad call . see first point - However the load shape/palette works fine As well as "About" - But the configure menu stuffs out and hangs on a save This must of happened to others? anyway -design issues personally I think it would be better if you could see all or at least a page full of shapes when your selecting a tile. ie spacebar flicks you to it as now but makes for much quicker selection - from a gui design point of view its ok - - forces you to use the opening window though :( ^ | "ignore" =>COMP330 is effecting me - ARRGG!! By the way I'm not having a go at you, This is just my opinion and my opinion dont count much over 14000km hey :-) anyway at least someone is trying to help blitz game coders so keep up the good work. Brett Johansen -- "Lemons...Broken oranges, a life" From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 12 01:30:25 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA07193 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 01:29:52 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA21643 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:26:25 -1000 Message-Id: <199408121826.AA21643@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: "neil o'rourke" Subject: MMailing address change To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:20:32 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Please note my new mailing address. Regards, Neil orourke@helios.usq.edu.au From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 12 06:17:12 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA19010 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 06:16:51 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1374; Fri, 12 Aug 94 06:15:25 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 1373; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 06:15:25 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 7189; Thu, 11 Aug 94 23:15:45 EDT Message-Id: <11AUG94.25123028.0248.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 94 23:15:43 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: About INCBIN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Evertime I make a demo, I have to load up a graphics file and/or a music file. Is it possible to INCLUDE them in a Blitz program so I don't have to have more than 1 file for my demos? Incbin does something like that, but if I wanted to include a medmodule how would I play it afterwards? Certainly not with PlayMed since it doesn't receive an address as a parameter. So, what can be done? Thanks for any help. Nelson Santos. From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 12 12:20:44 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA09231 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 12:20:15 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qYslz-0003ZlC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:19 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:04:48 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 12:04:46 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: About INCBIN Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <56E9C640295@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > > Evertime I make a demo, I have to load up a graphics file and/or > > a music file. Is it possible to INCLUDE them in a Blitz program > > so I don't have to have more than 1 file for my demos? Incbin > > does something like that, but if I wanted to include a medmodule > > how would I play it afterwards? Certainly not with PlayMed since it > > doesn't receive an address as a parameter. So, what can be done? > Well...as far as I know it's impossible to tell Blitz compiler WHERE (chip or fast ) you want to put the included data when your proggy starts. So as Med module must be in chip mem U can't incbin it - as U never know where (chip or fast) it'll be. This INCBIN thing only works if it's not important where you want your data (asm routines, map data etc.) BTW ther is command CludgeMedModule - if U alloc Chip, bload med module into it and then CLUDGE it then it's just like loadmedmodule. Hope that helped. O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 12 15:27:13 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA23708 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 15:23:46 +0300 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 13:18:44 +0100 Message-Id: <94081213184472@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Map Editor X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Date sent: 12-AUG-1994 I thought I'd mail the list with info about my map editor that should be rereleased soon. It has tons of new features and is a lot more stable than the original version (yes I know - the original was less stable than a glider in a thunder storm). There is one slight problem with the program, though. I think that it has now become WorkBench 3.0 + only. This is because it is completely reliant of GTlists but does not renumber them too only use numbers 50+. Also it uses the command GTGetAttrs which the Blitz people say is a workbench 3.0 + only command. Sorry if this upsets people, I have only got workbench 3.0 so I have no way of knowing whether any changes I make to the program will make it work on an older machine. Keen new features include: o Full screen shape select (for Jurgen, Martin, Steve etc...) o Surface data editing o Reflect table o Undo function! o Right mouse button shape select o Groups can now have upto 100 blocks in them o Works properly in Super Hirez now o And loads more that I can't remember Hopefully, the editor should be available soon. Mail me with agro if you want it to be very soon! Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : My map editor's a bit buggy | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | Current project : BlitzBombers AGA | | | [##############################::::] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v??? | | | [###########################:::::::] | | Help me:ANIM8 file format please! | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.1| | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [##############################BUGS] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Sun Aug 14 11:59:39 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA26611 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 1994 11:58:33 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qZbNi-0003z1C; Sun, 14 Aug 94 11:57 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 14 Aug 94 11:45:18 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 11:45:13 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: Bitmap problem Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <59E4A114B29@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > I've had EXACTLY the same problem. I can use 1,2,3,4,5 or 7 bitplanes, but not > 6! I discovered this when trying to use the *BLIT commands. It seems that > Mark (or whoever wrote the displaylibs) is still using the trick of > 6 bitplanes + no HAM = EHB. It works in OCS and ECS, but not on AGA :( > NOTE: This is only an educated GUESS. If anyone knows better (or how to get > around this) please let us 64-colour users know :) I managed to display 64 colour (6 plane) pic but the palette was wrong??? Someone in list told that his game uses 64 colour (AGA - not EHB) slice and it works OK. May be U can explain how U init your coplist as I think there's the problem. Thanx! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 16 00:38:56 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA17349 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 00:37:47 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <14316-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 23:37:44 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41429; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 23:33:28 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 15 Aug 94 23:37:23 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 15 Aug 94 23:37:00 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 23:36:51 Subject: New BlitzGuide comming... Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <4A18E331CB6@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hya all, The new BlitzGuide is almost finished and contains now *ALL* BUM's...The file is over 255kb, so free some space next week! New people on the list can get this guide by sending me a message with REQ BGUIDE in the subject header. Cya From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 11:43:58 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA22539 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 11:42:53 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HFXKEUTZ2O000MXQ@email.meto.govt.uk>; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 08:39:49 GMT Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 08:39:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Pausing programs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HFXKEUVKYA000MXQ@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO G'Day all, Is there any way of stopping a program for a certain number of seconds, without using VWAIT?? Thanks, -Matthew. ____________________________________________________________________________ ////////// Matthew O'Donnell |||||||||| modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk \\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 13:12:09 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA00626 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:11:00 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:10:37 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:10:03 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:02:25 +0300 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:02:25 +0300 X400-Originator: mca@glasgow-caledonian.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<11366.9408151002@gcal.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: Pausing p... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: "M.Carter" Message-ID: <11366.9408151002@gcal.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi, hadmo Subject: Re: Pausing programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO how about : ResetTimer while ticksHHHH From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 13:56:34 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA04098 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:54:00 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qZzej-00045OC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 13:52 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 15 Aug 94 13:54:00 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:53:55 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Copperlists Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <5B86E1C2BEB@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi all! Does anybody (ACID :) know the structure of CopList (new display lib). What I want to do is some kewl 256 colour fade effects. Just wondered if I know the palette data offsets in coplist then can I just poke new colour values into it?? Any ideas?? O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 13:59:11 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA04448 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:58:08 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:57:13 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:56:31 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:57:31 +0300 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:57:31 +0300 X400-Originator: mca@glasgow-caledonian.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<12726.9408151057@gcal.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: "M.Carter" Message-ID: <12726.9408151057@gcal.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hello all. I have just joined the blitz list. I have a number of points to make, and hope that someone can answer them. 1) SUSPECTED BUG =============== Type the following program : ss.q=2 dd.l=834000 NPrint ss-dd/1000 ;output will be 19.968 dd.l=40000 NPrint ss-dd/1000 ;output will be 27.536 dd.l=30000 NPrint ss-dd/1000 ;output will be -28 As you see, the results are not always correct. The problem appears to be that if a number is outside the quick range, then the compiler tries to make it quick, but doesn`t get it right. Although it is possible to devise a workaround, I would at least expect the signalling of an error. At best, the problem could be fixed. I telephoned Acid Software in Britain, but there is no technical support there. They said I could write to New Zealand. As you can imagine, I find this fairly naff. Is there any way that I can contact someone to have it fixed? Do the developers read this list? 2) A DIFFERENT SUSPECTED BUG ========================== This time in string handling. I think that this is a more serious error, because it makes string parsing and outputting more problematical. Type the following: a$=" " ;two spaces for i=1 to 2 NPrint Asc(mid$(a$,i,1)) next i NPrint len(a$) Mousewait The output is: 32 32 2 So far, so good. Now type: Screen 0,10 window 0,0,0,200,200,0,"Oops",0,1 windowoutput 0 a$=lset$("abc",5) for i=1 to 5 Nprint asc(mid$(a$,i,1)) next i nprint len(a$) mousewait Output is : 97 98 99 0 <- wrong ! 32 5 abc* You get an ugly output, and things are generally wrong. There is also a problem with the STRING$ function. Again - how can I bring these errors to the developer's attention and get them fixed? 3) MAKEDEFLIBS ============= When I try to load the MAKEDEFS program, I get a message saying "Not enough memory". The computer then guru's on me. Currently my blitzlibs drawer is a mess - filled with .res and .bb files all over the place. It is my opinion that Blitz Basic should not have been supplied in compressed format. Does anyone feel the same about the User Magazine? I would rather pay just a bit more to have EVERYTHING decompressed. After all, I have to use extra disks to store decompressed files. Even then, I might find .lha files within them. This amounts to a massive sortout operation. From the user's point of view, there is no economic savings in being supplied with compressed disks - quite the reverse. Does anyone agree? 4) POINTERS ========== It appears that the pointers work in a different way from C pointers. Am I right? Is it possible, in a SAFE way, to get the list to point to a particular element? I know that you can specify indices in a list, e.g. a(1)\object (where a() is a list), but the manual advises against it. I want to be able to set up a proper pointer so that I can write a tree-processing routine. I want to be able to write something like : *remember = current list position ... process the list using NextItem() ... set current list poistion = *remember ... maybe make use of NextItem() Do you understand what I mean? Is it possible? 6) AMIGADOS ============ Admittedly not a Blitz question, but I hope you will help me anyway. Suppose I write a file called "input" containing: 1 2 3 4 5 6 I would like to process it to produce 2 4 6 Not very ambitious, I know, but I want to do it as a learning exercise. I thought of writing a file called "script" containing : .key a b echo $b and execute it using execute sript ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 14:59:38 +0300 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 12:54:17 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 94 12:54:10 BST Message-Id: <2779.9408151154@met.ed.ac.uk> From: M Cooper Subject: Copper Lists To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O The best way to get the hang of Copperlists with Blitz (I find) is to write a little Copper disassembler. Then setup the display as necessary and view the Copper List with it To do this scan through the memory adresses from CopLoc to CopLoc + CopLen step 4, decode the pairs of words at these addresses. For adr.l=CopLoc to CopLoc+CopLen Step 4 word1.w=peek.w(adr) word2.w=peek.w(adr+2) ... Next The lowest bits tell you the type of Copper command,a nd the other bits give the data and adresses. See the Blitz manual appendix, and interpret the results as you go. Then you can make up a table of useful data adresses for your particular Coper list set-up,a nd poke new data e.g. colours into these values. If enough people want me to, ill post my own Copper disassembler here. Mike Cooper From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 16:00:38 1994 Received: from varoom.dtek.chalmers.se (varoom.dtek.chalmers.se [129.16.30.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA15154 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 15:59:13 +0300 Received: (from d9mats@localhost) by varoom.dtek.chalmers.se (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA07882 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 14:57:28 +0200 From: Mats Persson Message-Id: <199408151257.OAA07882@varoom.dtek.chalmers.se> Subject: Where is my mail? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 14:57:28 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 229 X-Status: Status: RO Sorry for posting this to the list but it's the only address I have... Why don't I get any blitz mail anymore? Could the person in charge please check this? I want my blitz mail to go to: mats@tfd.multi.se Thanx! Mats Persson From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 17:03:16 1994 Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.220.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA20115 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 17:01:55 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id QAA23320; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 16:01:51 +0200 Received: by gfl.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27204; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:03:57 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:03:57 +0200 Message-Id: <9408151403.AA27204@gfl.se> From: sand@gfl.se (Peter Sandberg) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Beta-testing a game MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi all Blitzers! I've written a game called SpaceMan that I would like some of you people to give me some input on(Acid is also welcome). The game was written for the AF-compo but it didn't win. It's an isometric shoot-em-up game in 32 colours. The game still have some bugs of which most I'm aware of. I want some of you to take a look at the game and give me some comments about gameplay, looks, sound bugs etc. The reason is that I'm going to develop a fully-featured shareware version with some 50 levels or so for a meagre 10 pence a level( or distribute it on one of Acids future gamediscs if they want to). The final game should also have a couple of extra features. So mail me if you feel that you have a couple of minutes to spare on a little bit of gametesting. The game comes with the sourcecode and about ten levels although some of them are poorly designed. I can mention the fact that the levels are designed in Dpaint and that each level can consist of as many as 100 sectors or rooms. I will probably send the game on a floppydisk. It should work on A500, A2000, A1200, A3000 and A4000 although sometimes it does some strange things with its screens. Mail me your postal adress together with a short presentation and I'll contact you as soon as I can. Greetings from Peter Sandberg LimeLight Software sand@gfl.se From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 22:32:33 1994 Received: from cix.compulink.co.uk (tom.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA10933 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 22:31:09 +0300 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by cix.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA06829 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 20:28:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 94 20:30 BST-1 From: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Kennedy) Subject: List arrays To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Reply-To: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O A quicky question to you all, Anyone know a way of freeing off memory used by a 'DIM LIST' a sort of UNDIM I suppose. The reason is a program I am working on at the moment requires an extremely large list array purely to display a large GTListview which the user selects an Item from, then that's it.. list finished, but I've still lost all that memory, till the program terminates. I realise I could write my own fake listview but it seems a lot of effort for one selection. While I am on it, once you get the value of the selected item from the list is it possible to set the listpointer to that entry, so you can get at the data at that position, I'm currently starting at the beginning and using NextItem() to step through the number of entries specified by the listview, which works but isn't ideal.. Thanks in advance. Graham K. From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 22:32:27 1994 Received: from cix.compulink.co.uk (tom.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA10927 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 22:31:07 +0300 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by cix.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA06819 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 20:28:32 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 94 20:30 BST-1 From: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Kennedy) Subject: Bugz 'n' stuff To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Reply-To: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO >1) SUSPECTED BUG >=============== (Rounding Bug) To be honest, what you are attempting here is a bit dodgy in itself, the golden rule is usually like with like, this way the compiler does not have to work out what result you are after. This goes for most languages. Blitz is a bit different in that it implements a quick (but less accurate) datatype. If you need accuracy I'd try Floats instead. >I telephoned Acid Software in Britain, but there is no >technical support there. They said I could write to >New Zealand. As you can imagine, I find >this fairly naff. Still its not bad for a small NZ outfit, you should try getting support from some UK companies.... Sheer hell. >Is there any way that I can contact >someone to have it fixed? Do the developers read this >list? They certainly do, as do many other Blitz developers. >2) A DIFFERENT SUSPECTED BUG >========================== (String handling) Yep this is known, and I think Acid are suitably embarrassed by it, I think it got in on the last upgrade, and (according to all reports) they are working on it as we speak. >You get an ugly output, and things are generally wrong. >There is also a problem with the STRING$ function. Is that the one where it doesn't put the right no. of charaters in the string ? Can't remember if I reported it. Sure the guys will know though. >Again - how can I bring these errors to the >developer's attention and get them fixed? Hey man, your doing it.... >3) MAKEDEFLIBS >============= > >When I try to load the MAKEDEFS program, I get a >message saying "Not enough memory". The computer >then guru's on me. Do you mean load or run the 'makedefs' program, If it is loading you got a real problem, if it is when it is run it could be down to the junk you mention in your Blitzlibs drawer. I am sure if you ask, nicely BUM7 will contain a blitzlibs draw with just those files needed. (I would be very much in favour of this ;-) ) just clear out the .res and .bb* files and things should be OK. (I take it you are running makedeflibs to include new libraries ? Otherwise you never need it. >Currently my blitzlibs drawer is a mess - filled with >.res and .bb files all over the place. It is my opinion >that Blitz Basic should not have been supplied in >Does anyone feel the same about the User Magazine? Naa, sorry I'd prefer to keep Acid's costs to a minimum, so they can keep churning out updates and the like. >4) POINTERS >========== >Is it possible, in a SAFE way, to get the list to point to a particular >element? I know that you can specify indices in a list, e.g. > a(1)\object (where a() is a list), >but the manual advises against it. I don't know about this one but if you find out let me know, I would love to use this to set a position in a list to the entry selected from a GTListview. >6) AMIGADOS >============ Nope sorry I'm no help here at all. (use MSDOS too much) One final comment, while I am here. You do seem to be a bit negative about Acid (appologies if I have the wrong end of the stick here). Although I am not defending them (after all they are selling a product) I do feel that they do a good job considering the size of their operation. As I said earlier I have had much worse service from many big (and some bloody massive) companies in the UK. If nothing else you've got access to the Blitz-list, which seems to have a wealth of knowledge flowing round it these days. Ask a question and usually someone will answer it. There are some people developing some wonderful libraries etc, (although I hope the latest RIBlitzlibs get onto aminet soon) so usually someone can help you. All the best Graham K. From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 16 03:23:10 1994 Received: from cix.compulink.co.uk (tom.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA22293 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 03:21:44 +0300 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by cix.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA06160 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 01:19:58 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 94 01:22 BST-1 From: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Kennedy) Subject: GTListview Gadgets To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Reply-To: gakennedy@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O >Why not do a DIM LIST a.list(0)? Or whatever variable you're using for your list? WOW, it worked, I think Blitz must be the first Language I have used which allows you to redim so easily, in fact it was so simple I didn't even think about this solution. Mucho Thanks for suggesting it. Second bit. >sample code follows....... > >;Main Loop >Repeat > >ev.l=WaitEvent >gh.l=GadgetHit >code.l=EventCode > >Select ev > > Case $40 ; gadget up event - needed for list views and other gadgets > > Select gh > > Case 52:lv1=code ;52 is listview gadget # and lv1 holds value > ;of selected item - you can go up and down > ;from there > >.......end of sample code I don't think I was too clear in my description :-( I can read the Listview no problem but I then want to take that value and set the List array pointer to point to the entry selected. I am currently using something similar to the following: ok=firstitem(mylist()) while(lv1>0) ok=nextitem(mylist()) lv1=lv1-1 wend therefore at the end of the loop the List array will point at the Listview entry selected.... Great for small lists, But could take a while on a larger array. I was just wondering if there was a way to set the pointer directly. many thanks for the assistance Joel, appreciate it. Graham K. From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 16 12:30:53 1994 Received: from ipx1.mat.torun.edu.pl (ipx1.mat.torun.edu.pl [158.75.2.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA24537 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 12:30:04 +0300 Message-Id: <199408160930.MAA24537@kantti.helsinki.fi> Subject: unsubscribe To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 11:29:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Falkowski Liwiusz X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Please, unsubscribe me -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Liwiusz Falkowski Student of Microelectronics at Nicolaus Copernicus University // Torun, Poland // Thanx to Amiga \\ // for being the InterNet: lee2@ipx1.mat.uni.torun.pl \X/ best compu ever! lee@vm.cc.uni.torun.pl BitNet: lee at pltumk11 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 18 13:27:34 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA21960 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 13:27:19 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 11:25:48 +0100 Message-Id: <20411.199408181020@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 11:20:52 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 16 Aug 94 11:40:00 BST Subject: Bummer To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Where do people get the latest editions of BUM from? From mcc@meteorology.edinburgh.ac.uk Tue Aug 16 19:18:15 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA00956 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:48:01 +0300 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:47:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 94 16:47:35 BST Message-Id: <25448.9408161547@pileus> From: M Cooper Subject: Copper Disassembler To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Oh, youze guys! Alright then, the Copper disassembler routine should be posted tomorrow. Mike Cooper From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 16 18:50:55 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA00956 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:48:01 +0300 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:47:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 94 16:47:35 BST Message-Id: <25448.9408161547@pileus> From: M Cooper Subject: Copper Disassembler To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Oh, youze guys! Alright then, the Copper disassembler routine should be posted tomorrow. Mike Cooper From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 17 12:19:18 1994 Received: from perth.dialix.oz.au (perth.DIALix.oz.au [192.203.228.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA25807 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:18:09 +0300 Received: from localhost (keith@localhost) by perth.dialix.oz.au (8.6.4.1/8.6.4) id RAA19787 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 17:17:42 +0800 From: Keith Johnson Message-Id: <199408170917.RAA19787@perth.dialix.oz.au> Subject: Buying Blitz 2 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 17:17:41 +0800 (AWST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 256 X-Status: Status: RO Howdy all Blitzers, I'm in Australia and was wondering how much Blitz 2 costs in America or Europe as it not easliy avialable in Australia, and it will probably be cheaper.. Or is someone selling a second hand version i could buy? Thanx in adv, Keith. From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 17 12:50:22 1994 Received: from relay1.pipex.net (relay1.pipex.net [158.43.128.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA28203 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:48:40 +0300 Received: from mdis.com by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <06384-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 10:48:26 +0100 Received: from gx2.uk.mdis.com by gate.mdis.com id aa09877; 17 Aug 94 10:48 BST Received: by gx2.uk.mdis.com; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:48:13 BST Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:48:13 BST From: Andy Malcolm To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Blitz libraries Cc: amalcolm@gate.uk.mdis.com Message-ID: <9408171048.aa09877@gate.mdis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi All, I am starting to develope a fairly large program ( a soccer management sim ) using Blitz. Having barely got the project off the ground, I have already written some 2000+ lines of code, currently all in one source file which is becoming unmanagable. If I were developing in 'C' (my native language) a lot of this would already be in sub modules or libraries. I know that blitz can have resident files containing NewTypes and Constants, is it possible to produce libraries of procedures / statements or else compile multiple files simultaneously ? Do you use the MAKEDEFLIBS command ? Could somebody explain how this works ? Many Thanks, -Andy +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Andy Malcolm + + Comms Group - Product Development + + MDIS - McDonnell Information Systems. + + email amalcolm@uk.mdis.com + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+" From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 18 13:44:44 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA23294 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 13:42:06 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 11:40:37 +0100 Message-Id: <21644.199408181035@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 11:35:37 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 17 Aug 94 11:56:00 BST Subject: BUGS??? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, I was looking at blitz last night and came up with the following problems.....(note:The last ver of BUM I have is 5-if that makes a difference) 1. I looked at the crunch.obj file and saw some commands such as PPDecrunch, CRMDecrunch, Implode and Deplode. But no documentation anywhere. The commands are recognised in blitz, but I tried using PPdecrunch to unpack a PP20 file but had no luck. 2. How can I access a checkbox value without using the gadptr structure. I know I can use eventcode, but I dont wish to update a variable every time its changed. Is there a way of doing the following..... var.l=eventcode(gtlist#,id) ?????? 3. AGAIN, I found a problem in using statements/functions, the following works in the main program, but not in a function.... r.l=0 a.l=20 getreg d0,a putreg d0,r As you might expect, r returns 20, but in a function it returns 0!! Also ASLFilerequest$ GURUS inside a statement. Thanx a lot. Matt. From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 17 14:34:00 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA07375 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 14:33:41 +0300 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:28:27 +0100 Message-Id: <94081712282725@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Maps... X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Date sent: 17-AUG-1994 Just thought I'd mail the list with a couple of updates to my map editor. The editor now sports an OPTIONAL shape scroller at the top of the screen. This stretches across the whole width of the screen and allows you to quickly select any shape in the currently loaded file. It can be switched on or off and its status can be saved as a tooltype. You can now save your prefered screen mode. The editor will automatically open its screen to match your choice. Shapes can now be grabbed from IFF's using the LoadShapes menu item. Just click on an IFF instead of a shapes file and you'll be given a option to grab the palette from the iff, the program will then automatically cut out the shapes and then resort them as if they were a normal shapes file. Shapes can now be named! Give a shape a name and then save out all defined names as an ASCII file that looks like this: #BACKGROUND=0 #DESTRUCT=1 #NONDESTRUCT=2 These constants can then be used straight in your program - making it easier to change your shapes file in the future! You can also select a shape by name rather than by number or image. Hmmmmm..... Anything else? Probably but I'll be buggered if I can remember......... ;-) Oh well, the editor should be available soon! Thanx, Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : My map editor's a bit buggy | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | Current project : BlitzBombers AGA | | | [##############################::::] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v??? | | | [###########################:::::::] | | Help me:ANIM8 file format please! | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.2 | | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [#################################:] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 18 11:30:45 1994 Received: from alsvid.scu.edu.au (alsvid.scu.edu.au [203.2.33.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA12731 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 11:30:22 +0300 Received: by alsvid.scu.edu.au id AA29439 (5.65c8+/IDA-1.4.4 for helsinki.fi!blitz-list); Thu, 18 Aug 1994 18:30:18 +1000 Received: by wnet.edex.edu.au with UUCP (\/<>\/ SmailAmiga 1.02j21) id ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 10:26:42 +1000 Received: by fulink.edex.edu.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <01lz@fulink.edex.edu.au>; Wed, 17 Aug 94 21:57:02 +1000 Message-Id: <9408180757.01lz@fulink.edex.edu.au> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 21:57:02 +1000 From: mike@fulink.edex.edu.au (Mike Hall) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: game review(s) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO In Email on Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:03:57 +0200, sand@gfl.se (Peter Sandberg) wrote: >I want some of you to take a look at the game and give me some >comments about gameplay, looks, sound bugs etc. The reason is that I'm >going to develop a fully-featured shareware version with some 50 levels >or so for a meagre 10 pence a level( or distribute it on one of Acids >future gamediscs if they want to). The final game should also have a >couple of extra features. I'll gladly do that for you... Same goes for anyone else who'd like a very honest/critical pre-release review. Shall also touch up on any gfx that make me wanna puke. :) (if desired and/or accessable) >I will probably send the game on a floppydisk. It should work on A500, >A2000, A1200, A3000 and A4000 although sometimes it does some strange >things with its screens. cool, either that or upload to my BBS, ( 61-75-382097 ), logon with: "guest", password "guest". Otherwise just mail me and something else could be arranged. >Mail me your postal adress together with a short presentation and I'll >contact you as soon as I can. will do... -- __ .------------------------------------------------. __/// o_,| Sysop of Future Link | 3:640/944, 61-75-382097 | \XX/ ,\\ike Hall ; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 16:18:14 +0300 Received: from mdis.com by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <18703-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 14:17:58 +0100 Received: from gx2.uk.mdis.com by gate.mdis.com id aa25608; 17 Aug 94 14:17 BST Received: by gx2.uk.mdis.com; Wed, 17 Aug 94 14:17:43 BST Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 14:17:43 BST From: Andy Malcolm To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Saving data to files. Cc: amalcolm@gate.uk.mdis.com Message-ID: <9408171417.aa25608@gate.mdis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, Another question. The program I am writing at the moment has a large array of a newtype which I want to save to disk. I have'nt got the code with me but I have the following questions, 1. Does OpenFile create a file if it does'nt exist, or do you need WriteFile, or both ? 2. Having opened the file (Write/OpenFile having returned success) I then use the commands, Field 0,clubs Put 0,0 where the variable clubs is, newtype .team { some .b types some .player (newtypes) } Dim clubs.team(22) Is this the correct way of saving this data to disk ? 3. On a different note, I started coding by writing code directly into the editor attached to the Blitz2 compiler. Last night I tried using Ted and found that all the reserved words ie Newtype, Print, WLocate etc., where garbled. Is it possible to save code from within the Blitz compiler in such a fashion that Ted can undewrstand it ? Thanks -Andy +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Andy Malcolm + + Comms Group - Product Development + + MDIS - McDonnell Information Systems. + + email amalcolm@uk.mdis.com + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+" From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 18 18:50:38 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA16700 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 18:50:20 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <10572-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 17:50:15 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA35122; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 17:45:54 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 18 Aug 94 17:49:56 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 18 Aug 94 17:49:51 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 17:49:35 Subject: Edit$ bug... Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <4E3C6F00C97@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi All, I wonder if somebody found this bug: WBenchToFront_ WbStartup Window 0,0,0,640,200,$0800,"Hi!",1,2 a$=Edit$(a$,25) When you run this program it will put the cursor on screen with a Null-character in it (a character like this: [])... From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 18 01:32:27 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA12493 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 01:31:11 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA12663 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 18 Aug 1994 08:22:57 -1000 Message-Id: <199408181822.AA12663@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: "neil o'rourke" Subject: Moving Bitplanes To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 08:16:42 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > > > > > > How can I move an individual bitplane in a bitmap?? > > > > > > What do you mean exactly, "move an individual bitplane in a bit map"? > > > You can simulate this effect by having a large off-screen bitmap, and > > copy over (or blit over) the section needed into the specified bitmap. > > > If this is what you want, I've written some code to allow you use the > > blitter for this purpose. > > What I would like, is to be able to draw into a specific bitplane > (using BitPlanesBitMap), and then scrolling this individual > bitplane around on top of the existing bitmap. > > I would greatly appreciate looking at your code, to see if that > does the trick! Thanks. I don't know if this is really what you want, but it might give you ideas. This code uses the blitter directly to move data around a bitplane, and could simulate the effect you are after. This code runs under Intuition, but I didn't bother protecting myself with a call to OwnBlitter() and DisownBlitter(). The routines adapt themselves to whatever strange bitmaps you care to toss at it, and even works on my 4000/040 here at work. Regards, Neil ------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEWTYPE.CBMParams ;This newtype is the sole parameter to the CopyBM2 statement SBM.w ;Source BitMap number DBM.w ;Destination BitMap number (can be the same as Source) X1.w ;\ Y1.w ; | Rectangle to cut W.w ; | from source H.w ;/ X2.w ;\ Destination for Y2.w ;/ the Blit SrcBP.w ;What bitplane to get image from. DestBP.w ;This parameter tell the routine what bitplane to sent ;the src image to. Ignored if -1. End NEWTYPE NEWTYPE.bitmap _ebwidth.w ;even byte width of a bitmap _height.w ;pixel height of bitmap _depth.w ;depth, in bitplanes, of bitmap _pad.b[2] _data.l[8] ;Max of 8 pointers to bitplanes _pad2.b[22] _isreal.w ;=0: no bitmap present ;<0: bitmap present ;>0: bitmap present, but not ours End NEWTYPE #custom=$dff000 ;address of chip registers ("the metal") #BLTCON0=#custom+$40 ;Blitter control register 0 #BLTCON1=#custom+$42 ; " " " 1 #BLTAFWM=#custom+$44 ;Blitter first word mask for source A #BLTALWM=#custom+$46 ; " last " " " " " #BLTCPTH=#custom+$48 ;Blitter pointer to source C (high 3 bits) #BLTCPTL=#custom+$4a ; " " " " " (low 15 bits) #BLTBPTH=#custom+$4c ;Blitter pointer to source B (high 3 bits) #BLTBPTL=#custom+$4e ; " " " " " (low 15 bits) #BLTAPTH=#custom+$50 ;Blitter pointer to source A (high 3 bits) #BLTAPTL=#custom+$52 ; " " " " " (low 15 bits) #BLTDPTH=#custom+$54 ;Blitter pointer to destination D (high 3 bits) #BLTDPTL=#custom+$56 ; " " " " " (low 15 bits) #BLTSIZE=#custom+$58 ;Blitter start and size (window width,height) #BLTCON0L=#custom+$5a ;Blitter control 0, lower 8 bits (minterms) #BLTSIZV=#custom+$5c ;Bliter V size (for 15 bit vertical size) #BLTSIZH=#custom+$5e ;Blitter H size and start (for 11 bit H size) #BLTCMOD=#custom+$60 ;Blitter modulo for source C #BLTBMOD=#custom+$62 ;Blitter modulo for source B #BLTAMOD=#custom+$64 ;Blitter modulo for source A #BLTDMOD=#custom+$66 ;Blitter modulo for destination D #BLTCDAT=#custom+$70 ;Blitter source C data register #BLTBDAT=#custom+$72 ;Blitter source B data register #BLTADAT=#custom+$74 ;Blitter source A data register #DMACONR=#custom+$02 ;DMA control register (read only) #DMAB_BLTDONE=14 Macro WaitBlit ;This little macro busy-waits until the blitter is free BTST.b #DMAB_BLTDONE-8,DMACONR waitblit2: BTST.b #DMAB_BLTDONE-8,DMACONR:BNE waitblit2 End Macro Statement CopyBM2{*BMP.CBMParams} ;This statement copys a rectangular section from SBM to DBM using ;the Blitter. DEFTYPE.bitmap *src,*dest ;get pointers to the bitmaps *src=Addr BitMap(*BMP\SBM) *dest=Addr BitMap(*BMP\DBM) ;Extract the data that we want SrcX.w=*BMP\X1/8 ;Result in bytes SrcY.w=*BMP\Y1 ;Result in scanlines SizeX.w=*BMP\W/8 ;Result in bytes SizeY.w=*BMP\H ;Result in scanlines DestX.w=*BMP\X2/8 ;Result in bytes DestY.w=*BMP\Y2 ;Result in scanlines DDpth.w=*src\_depth ;could use Depth(*BMP\SBM) ImageSPointer.w=(*src\_ebwidth*SrcY)+SrcX ;This becomes our BLTAPTH ImageSModulo.w =*src\_ebwidth-SizeX ;This becomes our BLTAMOD ImageDPointer.w=(*dest\_ebwidth*DestY)+DestX ;This becomes our BLTDPTH ImageDModulo.w =*dest\_ebwidth-SizeX ;This becomes our BLTDMOD BlitSize.w=(SizeY*64)+(SizeX/2) ;This is the size of the blit If *BMP\DestBP=-1 For PlaneCount.w=0 To DDpth-1 !WaitBlit ;Make sure the blitter isn't busy Poke.w #BLTCON0,%0000100111110000 ;Enable A and D channels, MinTerm =$f0 Poke.w #BLTCON1,%0000000000000000 Poke.w #BLTAMOD,ImageSModulo Poke.w #BLTDMOD,ImageDModulo Poke.w #BLTAFWM,$ffff Poke.w #BLTALWM,$ffff Poke.l #BLTAPTH,*src\_data[PlaneCount]+ImageSPointer Poke.l #BLTDPTH,*dest\_data[PlaneCount-1]+ImageDPointer Poke.w #BLTSIZE,BlitSize ;This starts the blit Next PlaneCount Else Poke.w #BLTCON0,%0000100111110000 ;Enable A and D channels, MinTerm =$f0 Poke.w #BLTCON1,%0000000000000000 Poke.w #BLTAMOD,ImageSModulo Poke.w #BLTDMOD,ImageDModulo Poke.w #BLTAFWM,$ffff Poke.w #BLTALWM,$ffff Poke.l #BLTAPTH,*src\_data[*BMP\SrcBP]+ImageSPointer Poke.l #BLTDPTH,*dest\_data[*BMP\DestBP]+ImageDPointer Poke.w #BLTSIZE,BlitSize ;This starts the blit End If End Statement ;Now test the routine to demonstrate. Screen 0,0,0,320,256,6,$80,"",2,1 ScreensBitMap 0,0 BitMapOutput 0 For x.w=0 To 31 Boxf x*5,x*4,320-(x*5),256-(x*4),x Next DEFTYPE.CBMParams Txt,Erase BitMap 1,320,256,1 BitMapOutput 1:Locate 0,0:Print "HALF-BRIGHT TEXT" Txt\SBM=1 Txt\DBM=0 Txt\X1=0,0 Txt\W=16*8,8 Txt\X2=16,16 Txt\SrcBP=0 Txt\DestBP=5 Erase\SBM=1 Erase\DBM=0 Erase\X1=0,9 Erase\W=16*8,8 Erase\X2=16,16 Erase\SrcBP=0 Erase\DestBP=5 OldX.w=0:OldY.w=0 For x.w=0 To (320-(16*8)) Step 8 For y.w=0 To 248 If (x MOD 16)=0 Then cy=y Else cy=248-y Txt\X2=x,cy Erase\X2=OldX,OldY OldX=x:OldY=cy VWait:CopyBM2{&Erase}:CopyBM2{&Txt}:VWait Next y Next x End ------------------------------------------------------------------------ orourke@helios.usq.edu.au From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 18 15:25:58 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA00945 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 15:23:41 +0300 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 13:22:56 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 94 13:22:47 BST Message-Id: <6343.9408181222@pileus> From: M Cooper Subject: Copper disasm To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Here we go, the Copper disassembler. Dim clist.w(500,1) ;set up an array to hold the Coplist ;500 instructions should certainly be enough BLITZ ;Set up all slices/displays and CustomCops/Colsplits here, as you would ;use them in your game gosub C_store; stores contents of Copper List in array AMIGA ;Set up a screen (I leave this to you) ;and have a look at it gosub C_disasm; interprets and prints out End .C_store numcop=0 For i=0 to CopLen step 4 adr.l=CopLoc+i clist(numcop,0)=Peek.w(adr):clist(numcop,1)=Peek.w(adr+2) numcop+1 Next Return Function h${i} Function Return Left$(4,hex$(i)) End Function .C_disasm For i=0 to numcop-1 If clist(i,0)&1=0;Move Instruction DA=clist(i,0)&511 RD=clist(i,1) Nprint i*4," Move ",h{DA}," #"h{RD} Else;Wait or Skip Instruction VP=clist(i,0)ASR8:HP=(clist(i,0)&254)ASL1 VE=(clist(i,1)ASR8)&127:HP=(clist(i,1)&254)ASL1 If clist(i,1)&1=0;Wait Instruction Nprint i*4," Wait(",HP,",",VP,")("HE,",",VE,")" Else NPrint i*4," Skip(",HP,",",VP,")("HE,",",VE,")" Endif Endif Next And there we have it. I'd check the h Function - it is intended to give neat hex output Anyway, the output looks something like 0 Wait(0,44)(255,255) 4 Move 180 #fff etc. The Wait means that the Copper waits until the video beam reaches the coordinates (0,44) after being logically AND ed with the mask (255,255) It then Pokes he value fff into the Register $180 (which I believe is the address for Colour 0 on the ECS chipset. To change the data being poked in Poke the new word into the address CopLoc+4(figure on left of disasm output)+2(1 word) i.e. Poke.w CopLoc+6,$ff0 would change Colour 0 to Yellow. The typical Copper list will have a Wait at the top of each Slice, then a lot of Pokes into the Colour Table, Sprite Registers and BPLMods and so on, all of which are listed in the back of the Blitz manual. To change the Y value for waits, Poke the new y as a byte into the address given by CopLoc+number on left. This can be used to e.g. move a ColSplit up and down the screen, but make sure that all waits are still in strict numerical order of y values. Happy Poking Mike Cooper From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 18 15:58:56 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA03835 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 15:58:31 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qb71P-0004dwC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 15:56 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 18 Aug 94 15:57:55 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 15:57:54 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: BUGS??? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <602803B2F35@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > 1. I looked at the crunch.obj file and saw some commands such as > PPDecrunch, CRMDecrunch, Implode and Deplode. But no documentation > anywhere. The commands are recognised in blitz, but I tried using > PPdecrunch to unpack a PP20 file but had no luck. PPdecrunch works just fine in my game... O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 18 16:32:21 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA05980 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 16:31:56 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qb7Xk-0004LhC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 16:30 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 18 Aug 94 16:32:02 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 16:31:59 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: PD BBS'es Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <60311B80C8F@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all! I (we in fact) have my first blitz project almost finished so next problem is the distribution. What I need is PD BBS numbers all over the wolrd. As the list subscribers actually are from very different countries then if it's not trouble to you, please mail (directly to me) couple of popular BBS numbers + some comments if you know any (login names, passwords if needed etc.) in your area (+ contry code too ;). If anybody is interested then I can mail this full BBSlist to Blitzlist. Thanx! Bye for now! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 19 16:40:59 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA27670 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:40:50 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:40:45 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:39:57 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:32:17 +0300 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:32:17 +0300 X400-Originator: mca@glasgow-caledonian.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<17514.9408191332@gcal.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: "M.Carter" Message-ID: <17514.9408191332@gcal.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO I would like to compose a colour requester window in Blitz Basic. I know that a combination of Red Green and Blue can be used to make a colour. There is also an alternative arrangement - using Hue Saturation and Value. My question is - what is the specific (i.e. can you give me the mathematical relationship) between RGB and HSV ? From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 19 15:59:56 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk ([137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA23976 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 15:57:49 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <26831-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 13:56:57 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 19 Aug 94 14:04:00 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 19 Aug 94 14:03:54 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 14:03:45 GMT0BST Subject: Thanks Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <4E4DC8510A@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi folks, Just like to thank everybody on the list for the great feedback for my game StarWoids, all the advice is greatly appreciated. Work on the full version is progressing nicely, the only drawback being that we have now decided to drop all references to starwars in the game, both in the sound and graphics. Lets just say we had a talk with somebody close to LucasArts, and they advised us to play it safe so to speak 8) That will mean an extra couple of weeks delay, but hopefully the final version will be ready soon. Thanks again. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 19 17:10:20 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA29567 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 17:10:07 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <27918-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 15:10:03 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 19 Aug 94 15:17:06 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 19 Aug 94 15:16:40 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 15:16:34 GMT0BST Subject: Vwait 250 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <4F84520332@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi folks, I have been meaning to ask this for ages, but I have always forgotten in the past. Basically, I know the blitz docs say you must insert a vwait 250 before jumping into blitz mode after disk accesses. But, is this really necessary. Because of this, my games sometimes has long pauses, particularly when loading in levels, which is very irritating. Is there any way of getting around it, or are we stuck with it?? Thanks. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Sat Aug 20 18:08:18 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA20572 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 18:07:44 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4099; Sat, 20 Aug 94 18:06:18 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4098; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 18:06:18 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 5923; Sat, 20 Aug 94 11:06:53 EDT Message-Id: <20AUG94.12003556.0077.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 94 11:06:51 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Joel: INCLUDE LIBRARY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O I have to call this guy for his library? Why doesn't he release it if they are so good? Wouldn't it be better? Unless he already did and I didn't see them..... Nelson. From blitz-list-request Sat Aug 20 18:09:58 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA20747 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 18:09:47 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4107; Sat, 20 Aug 94 18:08:20 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4106; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 18:08:21 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 5939; Sat, 20 Aug 94 11:08:54 EDT Message-Id: <20AUG94.12039708.0077.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 94 11:08:52 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: OTT: CLUDGEMEDMODULE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O >BTW ther is command CludgeMedModule - if U alloc Chip, bload med >module into it and then CLUDGE it then it's just like loadmedmodule. I tried this command, but my Blitz basic doesn't recognize it. Where did you get it? Was it in BUM #6 or something? Nelson. From blitz-list-request Sat Aug 20 18:16:44 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA20930 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 18:16:33 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4130; Sat, 20 Aug 94 18:15:06 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4129; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 18:15:07 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 6035; Sat, 20 Aug 94 11:15:42 EDT Message-Id: <20AUG94.12161949.0077.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 94 11:15:39 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: Keith: BUYING BLITZ ][ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Well, you will pay around 98$ U.S. if you order from SafeHarbor Computers at 1-800-544-6599. That's where I got mine. Nelson. From blitz-list-request Sat Aug 20 18:25:55 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA21306 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 18:25:42 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4164; Sat, 20 Aug 94 18:24:15 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4163; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 18:24:16 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 6138; Sat, 20 Aug 94 11:24:53 EDT Message-Id: <20AUG94.12327513.0077.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 94 11:24:51 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: ALL: Arexx Help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hello everyone. I was wondering if someone would be able to give me a little Arexx class. I had an idea about creating a Full Screen Editor for my BBS. If I program it in Blitz Basic ][, I would need to access the port that AmiExpress (the BBS program) uses called: AEDoorPort1. I've read the info contained in BUM mag # 2 about the Arexx commands but I find that it's a little vague to someone who doesn't really know what Arexx is all about. I've programmed dozens of Arexx utilities for my BBS, but that was easy, I never had to send Arexx messages and reply to them etc. Ok, so here is the help I need: How do I use Blitz ][ Arexx commands!? I don't understand the message structures that I have to create, with those 16 argstrings or whatever that are, on page 30 of BUM #2. And I also to get the command (action) codes on page 33. They say to replay the mnemonics with their values, but WHAT ARE THEIR VALUES? All in all, what kind of process do I have to follow to make my Blitz Program communicate with my BBS Program? Nelson. From blitz-list-request Sun Aug 21 17:07:02 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA03092 for ; Sun, 21 Aug 1994 17:05:36 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qcDUR-0004AdC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 17:03 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 21 Aug 94 17:07:54 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Sun, 21 Aug 94 17:07:49 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 17:07:48 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: Vwait 250 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <64BABCD1F52@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > I think you are going to like the new display library.... > > Simon When, man...when are you going to release it???? O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 22 16:36:45 1994 Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu (PO3.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.103]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA19595 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 16:36:21 +0300 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) id JAA04603 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 09:36:12 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 09:36:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 09:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 09:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.32.pmax.ul4.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix2.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix2.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 09:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 09:35:04 -0400 (EDT) From: William Nolan To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Vwait 250 In-Reply-To: <9409A64DD9@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Excerpts from mail: 22-Aug-94 Re: Vwait 250 by Martin Kift@swansea.ac.u > Thanks William, very much appreciated 8) I'll give it a go soon. > Er -- Don't use it ... I tried it out and it does not work for some reason. I think the interrupt approach would be better (I remember seeing a Disk DMA interrupt bit in INTREQR somewhere). Let me have a go at that... William Nolan (wn22@cmu.edu) From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 22 17:54:13 1994 Received: from CUPPA.CURTIN.EDU.AU (cuppa.curtin.edu.au [134.7.70.20]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA26350 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 17:53:42 +0300 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by cc.curtin.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #7809) id <01HG865QVNOW90O976@cc.curtin.edu.au>; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 22:53:27 +0800 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 22:53:27 +0800 From: Richard Wiffen Subject: BUM #6 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HG865QXSUQ90O976@cc.curtin.edu.au> X-VMS-To: BLITZ MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO Hi folks! I just got BUM 6 and I was wondering if there's any way to get the shape editor on the archive disk working on a 1200. It needs the speech library, apparently, even though the speech is a "useless function". Bloody brilliant... :P Also, has anyone had any luck compiling the 3D shape editor on an unexpanded A1200? Or am I gonna have to get me some more memory... :) - Richard _--_|\ AMIGA /// Richard Wiffen (swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au) -- Perth, W.A. / \ OK! /// --------------------------------------------------------- ==>\_.--._/ \\\/// "You got some punch, pizzaz, yahoo and how. v \XX/ See all you gotta do is rub that lamp." From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 23 01:44:06 1994 Received: from mailhost.phantom.com (spock.phantom.com [198.67.3.9]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA20844 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 01:43:04 +0300 Received: from mindvox (mindvox.phantom.com) by mailhost.phantom.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19192; Mon, 22 Aug 94 19:04:15 EDT Received: by mindvox (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17441; Mon, 22 Aug 94 18:41:58 EDT Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 18:41:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Siklos To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hi there Quick Question... Is it possible to use "Setbplcon0 4" (Laced) with the display.lib? if not is there another version of this command for the display.lib? Thanks in Advance gsiklos@phantom.com ______________________________________________________________________________ A4000/040 540megs From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 23 12:27:29 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA26094 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:27:02 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:26:31 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:26:00 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:27:04 +0300 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:27:04 +0300 X400-Originator: mca@glasgow-caledonian.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<9362.9408230927@gcal.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: "M.Carter" Message-ID: <9362.9408230927@gcal.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO I tried to send the following message to sis3147, but my MAIL-DAEMAN doesn't recognise the address. Since it is directly related to Blitz, I thought I'd send it to the blitz-list to see if the proper recipients, or indeed anyone else, can help :- to : sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk from: mca@gcal.ac.uk date: 22 August 1994 re : BlitzLibs V3.1 (ZoneJoy,ToolTypes,WB) I downloaded your blitzlibs library from the aminet. It contains the documents - but not the libraries themselves. Can you send me a full version of the library? Thanks, Mark. From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 23 11:23:27 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA20107 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 11:22:57 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <16429-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 09:22:53 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 23 Aug 94 9:29:55 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 23 Aug 94 9:29:44 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 09:29:35 GMT0BST Subject: bug, I think. Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi guys and gals. Yesterday, a nasty little bug crept into my game, and I'm damned if I now what it is. When playing my game, and then exiting back to WB, WB appears okay as usual, but it runs very slow. When I checked with the realtime monitor to see what was running, I noticed that my game was still running and active, although all memory had been freed. This happens every time I run it now, either from the editor or from the icon. My only idea was that maybe it was an interupt left running, but I've checked my code thoroughly, and I'm sure its not this (I only use int 5 for playing mods anyway). Does anybody have any ideas?? Thanks. +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 23 12:37:26 1994 Received: from instruct.CapCollege.BC.CA (instruct.CapCollege.BC.CA [134.87.19.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA26939 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:36:56 +0300 Received: by instruct.CapCollege.BC.CA (5.59/25-eef) id AA18195; Tue, 23 Aug 94 02:36:43 PDT Message-Id: <9408230936.AA18195@instruct.CapCollege.BC.CA> From: cmair@instruct.CapCollege.BC.CA (Chris Mair) X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: SUBSCRIBE Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 2:36:42 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Thanx ... Chris Mair cmair@instruct.capcollege.bc.ca From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 23 12:43:41 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA27351 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:43:23 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HG8SUOIGEO001GNZ@email.meto.govt.uk>; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 09:40:21 GMT Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 09:40:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: RGB --> HSV To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HG8SUOJIZM001GNZ@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O Someone asked about the relationship between RGB and HSV... The following algorithm converts from RGB (normalised from 0 to 1) to HSV (taken from "Interactive computer graphics" - Burger and Gillies): maxcol=MAX(red,green,blue) mincol=MIN(red,green,blue) value=maxcol IF (maxcol=mincol) saturation=0 ; Hue is undefined, colour is white, grey or black ELSE saturation=(MaximumComponent-MinimumComponent)/MaximumComponent *** IF (mincol=blue) hue=120*(green-mincol)/(red+green-2*mincol) ELSE IF (mincol=red) hue=120*(1+(blue-mincol)/(blue+green-2*mincol)) ELSE hue=120*(2+(red-mincol)/(red+blue-2*mincol)) ENDIF ENDIF *** I'm not sure what it means by Maximum and MinimumComponent, maybe it just means maxcol and mincol? -Matthew. ____________________________________________________________________________ ////////// Matthew O'Donnell |||||||||| modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk \\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 23 14:02:00 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA04223 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 14:01:10 +0300 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 11:59:48 +0100 Message-Id: <94082311594878@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: GadTools on OS2.0 X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Date sent: 23-AUG-1994 Apologies for going over an old subject, but..... Can anyone give me a full list of problems that OS2.0 has with dealing with gadtools. I would really like my editor to be able to run on OS2.0 but I do not know exactly what I can and can't do. I have already removed the use of GTGetAttrs commands - is there anything else I need to do? Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| My map editor's NOT a bit buggy ! | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | Current project : BlitzBombers AGA | | | [##############################::::] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v??? | | | [###########################:::::::] | | Help me:ANIM8 file format please! | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.2 | | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [#################################:] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 24 05:30:43 1994 Received: from holonet.net (marvin.holonet.net [198.207.169.9]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA26696 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 05:30:30 +0300 Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by holonet.net id TAA15351; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 19:01:19 -0700 Received: by dagobah.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0pyg@dagobah.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 94 12:09:36 EST Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 12:09:36 EST Message-Id: <9408231709.0pyg@dagobah.com> From: metroid@dagobah.com (Cecil Meeks) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Join Mailing-List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hey, How do I join your Blitz Mailing list? Cecil (CB) Meeks PO Box 592 Signal Mtn., TN 37377 USA (615) 870-0851 Home (615) 886-6721 Work (615) 886-7333 Fax (Work) metroid@dagobah.com E-Mail Thanks! From postmaster@centron.com Thu Aug 25 23:08:46 1994 Received: from ibmPCUG.CO.UK (Alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK [192.68.174.71]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA07926 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 1994 22:35:12 +0300 Received: from centron.com by alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK id aa11135; 25 Aug 94 20:34 BST Received: by centron.com (GIGO 0.99 pl3) id AA00514; 25 Aug 94 06:57:45 +0000 From: James Savage Date: 23 Aug 94 22:19:38 +0000 Subject: Re: DisplayLib Fades Message-ID: <2ee_9408250657@centron.com> Organization: Centronics BBS X-Mail-Agent: GIGO+ sn 156 at centron vsn 0.99 pl3 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi All I've just been messing with DisplayLib and I can set up a 320x256x8 display, but I really want to fade a bitmap on and off it. FadeIn and FadeOut don't work, is there an alternative? James *:) bryce@gothic.demon.co.uk Co-sysop Centronics BBS C= Amiga CD32 Developer and ////\oo/\\\\ net.goth ... Better know nothing than half-know many things. >> Gothic Tag v1.03 << +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own | | ===> Gated @ Centronics BBS [centron.com] +44-1473-273246] <=== | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 25 22:37:30 1994 Received: from ibmPCUG.CO.UK (Alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK [192.68.174.71]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA07926 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 1994 22:35:12 +0300 Received: from centron.com by alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK id aa11135; 25 Aug 94 20:34 BST Received: by centron.com (GIGO 0.99 pl3) id AA00514; 25 Aug 94 06:57:45 +0000 From: James Savage Date: 23 Aug 94 22:19:38 +0000 Subject: Re: DisplayLib Fades Message-ID: <2ee_9408250657@centron.com> Organization: Centronics BBS X-Mail-Agent: GIGO+ sn 156 at centron vsn 0.99 pl3 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi All I've just been messing with DisplayLib and I can set up a 320x256x8 display, but I really want to fade a bitmap on and off it. FadeIn and FadeOut don't work, is there an alternative? James *:) bryce@gothic.demon.co.uk Co-sysop Centronics BBS C= Amiga CD32 Developer and ////\oo/\\\\ net.goth ... Better know nothing than half-know many things. >> Gothic Tag v1.03 << +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own | | ===> Gated @ Centronics BBS [centron.com] +44-1473-273246] <=== | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 24 04:56:01 1994 Received: from sol.newcastle.edu.au (sol.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.96.103]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA25632 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 04:55:36 +0300 Received: from sage.newcastle.edu.au by sol.newcastle.edu.au with SMTP id AA15468 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Wed, 24 Aug 1994 11:55:29 +1000 From: Brett Johansen Message-Id: <199408240155.AA15468@sol.newcastle.edu.au> Subject: Bum7 :-) ? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 11:55:27 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O I really am waiting on BUM7 when I got bum6 in the mail it had a bad track and the 500+k developer.lha file couldn't be properly extracted ( this was 3mths ago ) I have been particularily busy with uni since then and so have just been waiting for the update Hoping the update is worth it Brett Johansen -- c9108939@cs.newcastle.edu.aau "Lemon...broken oranges, a life" From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 24 06:18:47 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA28031 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 06:18:41 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5144; Wed, 24 Aug 94 06:17:15 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5143; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 06:17:15 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4233; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:17:53 EDT Message-Id: <23AUG94.25161426.0077.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:17:51 EDT From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" To: Subject: OTT: Cludge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O It came with the blitz...your blitz then doesn't know nothing about med player commands either or what?? What you need is medlib.obj in your blitzlibs:basic (or in your deflib). --- OTT ----------------------------------------------------------- Yes, I Have medlib.obj in the basic directory, and all the other med commands are recognized, but "CludgeMedModule" is not there! Are you sure that is the way you spell it, try it and tell me if if works for you... Nelson. From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 24 16:24:36 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA15093 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 16:24:07 +0300 Received: from microlnk by anubis.kbfi.ee with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qdIKl-0003dxC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 16:25 EETDST Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 24 Aug 94 9:52:50 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 09:52:46 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Pal or NTSC Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <68C6D2B15FA@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O HI! I know that in US all amigas use NTSC system. SO is there any other countries that use NTSC. Just want to know how many dudes miss my game if I release only PAL version...CU! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 24 12:25:24 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA21451 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 12:24:46 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 12:24:37 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 12:24:25 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 12:25:27 +0300 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 12:25:27 +0300 X400-Originator: mca@glasgow-caledonian.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<11594.9408240925@gcal.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: "M.Carter" Message-ID: <11594.9408240925@gcal.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O to : sis3147 & sis 3149 @uk.ac.port.sis.sisvax from : mca@gcal.ac.uk re : RI blitzlibs V3.1 My mistake. Recently I claimed that the RIBlitzLibsV3_1.lha failed to contain the '.OBJ' files. This is my mistake - they do exist - but one must 'Show All Icons'. I could die from embarrassment. Sorry that I have to make a response through Blitz-list, but for some unknown reason my mail-daemon doesn't recognise your address (I have tried it several times). From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 24 13:19:59 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA26063 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 13:19:45 +0300 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 11:19:23 +0100 Message-Id: <94082411192282@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Encoding X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Date sent: 24-AUG-1994 Is anybody interested in a very small library that does Enigma encoding and decoding? Very useful for protecting any type of files................. Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| My map editor's NOT a bit buggy ! | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | Current project : BlitzBombers AGA | | | [##############################::::] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v??? | | | [###########################:::::::] | | Help me:ANIM8 file format please! | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.2 | | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [#################################:] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 24 14:31:58 1994 Received: from athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk (athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk [143.117.254.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA03206 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 14:31:23 +0300 Received: from ash40.causeway.qub.ac.uk by athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk with SMTP id AA28624; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 12:25:32 +0100 Received: by ash40.causeway.qub.ac.uk (5.65/4.7) id AA02020; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 12:25:31 +0100 Message-Id: <9408241125.AA02020@ash40.causeway.qub.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 24 Aug 94 12:25:30 EDT From: Hangover MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO unsubscribe me please From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 25 14:48:59 1994 Received: from post.demon.co.uk (post.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.72]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA06131 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 1994 14:48:09 +0300 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 14:48:09 +0300 Received: from autotv.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa13030; 25 Aug 94 12:25 GMT-60:00 X-Sender: mail@autotv.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi From: Automatic Television Subject: Hello (and help) X-Mailer: Message-ID: <9408251225.aa13030@post.demon.co.uk> X-Status: Status: RO At last! Communication with other Blitzers. Deep joy. I have been using Blitz2 for a few months now. I`m currently running v 1.8 (Ted v 1.1) which came off BUM6 a few weeks ago. Mostly it runs on a A4000/30 (kick 39.106, wb 39.29 {i.e. V3.0}) and seems fine. I`ve just moved the system onto our trusty A2000 (running kick 37.175 and wb 38.35 {i.e. V2.1 on 2.04 rom}). It`s also got loads of boards in it. Blitz seems to behave differently on the 2 systems. ie it`s wobbly on the 2000. The simplest prog I could think of to test it was: loop: a$=edit$(1) If a$<>"q" Then Goto loop and when compile/run`ed if you resize the default window and double click on a WB icon (like a disc f`rincetance) it doesn`t open. When you click back on the Blitz window the pointer locks up completely, not even a guru!! So far I`ve disabled the (admittedly iffy) Fusion 40 accelerator and run it without the startup-sequence. Before I start ripping _all_ the other stuff out of the machine (PAR, GVP SCSI, a very old C= memory board (hmmm), Heggie-net ... er that`s it) and my hair... can anyone suggest an easier solution? (and while I`m here) the GadTools listviews seem to work differently too (like not) Apologies for arriving with a problem but thanks in advance Jonny Bradley ******************************************************************* * A U T O M A T I C T E L E V I S I O N * * Computer/TV Solutions * * VOICE (UK): 071 240 2073 * ******************************************************************* From blitz-list-request Sat Aug 27 22:55:57 1994 Received: from ibmPCUG.CO.UK (Alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK [192.68.174.71]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA16485 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 1994 22:55:31 +0300 Received: from centron.com by alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK id aa00868; 27 Aug 94 20:55 BST Received: by centron.com (GIGO 0.99 pl3) id AA00553; 27 Aug 94 20:50:58 +0000 From: James Savage Date: 25 Aug 94 20:28:55 +0000 Subject: Pal or NTSC Message-ID: <30d_9408272050@centron.com> Organization: Centronics BBS X-Mail-Agent: GIGO+ sn 156 at centron vsn 0.99 pl3 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hullo OTT@microlnk.ml.ee... Omme> I know that in US all amigas use NTSC system. SO is there any Omme> other countries that use NTSC. Just want to know how many Omme> dudes miss my game if I release only PAL version...CU! Japan, Canada, Mexico, bits of Russia seem to aswell. Actually, I think only the UK and Australia/NZ use PAL, everybody else uses SECAM (europe) or NTSC. Why not force the machine into PAL mode? James *:) bryce@gothic.demon.co.uk Co-sysop Centronics BBS Amiga Int CD32 Developer and ////\oo/\\\\ net.goth ... BASIC programmers never die; They GOSUB without RETURN. >> Gothic Tag v1.03 << +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own | | ===> Gated @ Centronics BBS [centron.com] +44-1473-273246] <=== | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 29 09:50:27 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA28830 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 09:50:15 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qf0SB-0003gYC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 09:44 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 29 Aug 94 9:46:32 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:15:12 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 10:15:12 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Is this list still alive??? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <104BD23452@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi! Does anybody still reading this list... Something seems to be wrong coz I get 3-4 days old messages and ...well it's good if 1-2 messages per day arrives :( (2-3 weeks ago everything was quite normal - atleast 10 or more msg per day was sure thing) Is somethign wrong with the listserver or the # of subscribers is very low??? Comments? O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 26 23:17:29 1994 Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.220.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA27542 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 1994 23:16:03 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id WAA00297; Fri, 26 Aug 1994 22:15:57 +0200 Received: by xs.multi.se (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0s0o@xs.multi.se>; Fri, 26 Aug 94 22:03:08 MET Received: by tfd.multi.se (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0a81@tfd.multi.se>; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:38:27 MET Message-Id: <9408261338.0a81@tfd.multi.se> Date: 26 Aug 94 10:27:33 CET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: The Fourth Dimension, Gråbo, Sweden X-Mailer: AmiGate 0.16a (7.3.94) From: mats@tfd.multi.se (Mats Persson) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: MODULE help wanted! X-Status: Status: O Hi fellow Blitzers! I am having a little trouble with understanding how to play modules. I am working on a program that will read a script file with names of modules and then play them one after another. My problem is how to know when a module ends so I can start the next one. How do I get my program to wait for the first module to end in a system friendly way before going on to the next? I have this little skeleton code that doesn't work as I want it to: From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 29 09:47:38 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA28606 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 09:45:47 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qf0Tq-0003quC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 09:46 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 29 Aug 94 9:48:15 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 27 Aug 94 12:56:04 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 12:55:59 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Memory fragmentation Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-ID: <2AFAB55E08@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all! I have major problems with the memory fragmentation. Has anyone (acid) any idea what to do to keep largest block of free mem as big as possible. Every time my program quits largest block decreases ca 300-400 K (chip) I alloc some huge bitmaps and then free them + allocating some memory too. But I free everything correctly. So is this Blitz's problem or am I doing something wrong? I hope there is solution for this coz otherwise I cant do my load level routine more that 3 times - then there just ain't any free mem (well if you use avail command is shell then it says 1.8 M free chip but largest block is 200 K). So please anybody help. O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Sun Aug 28 10:41:15 1994 Received: from holonet.net (marvin.holonet.net [198.207.169.9]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA09947 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 10:40:39 +0300 Received: from dagobah.com (uucp@localhost) by holonet.net with UUCP id XAA29785; Sat, 27 Aug 1994 23:42:31 -0700 Received: by dagobah.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0q1n@dagobah.com>; Sun, 28 Aug 94 00:23:39 EST Date: Sun, 28 Aug 94 00:23:39 EST Message-Id: <9408280523.0q1n@dagobah.com> From: metroid@dagobah.com (Cecil Meeks) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: SUBSCRIBE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Please enter me in the Blitz mailing list. Thanks CB Meeks PO Box 592 Signal Mtn.,TN 37377 USA (615) 886-6721 Work (615) 886-7333 Fax(work) (615) 870-0851 Home/BBS # metroid@dagobah.com E-Mail From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 30 10:41:12 1994 Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.220.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA05677 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 10:40:09 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id JAA21378; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:40:06 +0200 Received: by gfl.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16752; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:42:33 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:42:33 +0200 Message-Id: <9408300742.AA16752@gfl.se> From: sand@gfl.se (Peter Sandberg) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Is this list still alive??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO I think that this list is alive but that it's merely taking a nap. The same was true for the Amos list a couple of months ago but now it's bursting with energy. Just keep on writing those letters and we'll see :-) . About simulating the spinning wheels of a slot machine...Is it that they should rotate with amazing speed that is the problem or what? Here comes a very rough explanation: I guess that you alraeady have the shapes for each and every kind of token on a wheel (about ten or twelwe maybe?). Blit the shapes on a bitmap in the vertical direction. Then decide how much you can see through the window in the slotting machine. E.g If your window is 60 pxls in height and a token is 20 pxls then you should be able to display up to three tokens in that window. The thing to do is to cut out a shape from your token bitmap that is exactly the same size as your window and then display it in that window. The cuttingposition is equal to the wheel position. There is a bit more to this and I will be glad to help you with it if you want to :-). From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 30 11:48:57 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA11960 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 11:48:13 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qfOrR-00046oC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:48 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:50:27 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:50:25 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 11:50:22 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Mem Fragmentation - half solved Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: <71E3EE0384@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi! Yes is's me again. Seems like I kinda write replys to myself... Hmm..well anyway...some problems still remain, I hope some competent user (or acid) reads this coz as far as I know one must know what really happens inside blitz if bitmap is allocated etc. Warning! This msg is longer than 1 page! Situation is this: NB! Before this certain loader routine there are main code, several sub progs plus some init code etc.. .xxx: ; - loader routine ; check 1 Free Bitmap 0 ; check 2 Bitmap 0,xx,yy,8 ; check 3 Now if I do this routine twice (means that I really have bitmap to be freed) then the free mem after second try shows like this Note! The numbers are not important. I just want to show the difference between them. First largest blocks free (chipfree) check 1 - old BM is allocated =665280 check 2 - old BM freed =665280 check 3 - new MB created =665280 Second freechip - AvailMem_(#CHIP) check 1 - old BM is allocated =725272 check 2 - old BM freed =992544 check 3 - new BM created =725272 - - - - - So it seems like the free bitmap is not freeing the memory. Then again if I try this bitmap thing outside my proggy like this: BitMap 0,xx,yy,8 ; make a bitmap so we can free it ; check 1 ; old BM in mem Free BitMap 0 ; check 2 ; old BM freed BitMap 0,xx,yy,8 ;check 3 ; new allocated ----- If I print checks out (both largest and full free mem) then both will be freed and everythign is ok. Funny thing is that if I compile my full program to file and then run it then every time I call my loader routine I loose some mem (ca 400K!!! da valuable chip mem to be exact) But if I quit the program then all will be freed and all memory is given back. So in blitz cleanup procedure (when quiting proggy) the freeing is done. Question is? Can I somehow force blitz to make some cleanup during program run? May sound stupid but I just can't figure out what the hell is going on? Help me out please! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 30 16:12:36 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA06709 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 16:10:21 +0300 Received: from mailhost.aber.ac.uk (actually thorbb.dcs.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:10:08 +0100 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Pal or NTSC Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:10:01 +0100 Message-ID: <1990.778252201@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: MICHAEL RICHARDS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O In message <30d_9408272050@centron.com>, James Savage writes: > > Hullo OTT@microlnk.ml.ee... > > Omme> I know that in US all amigas use NTSC system. SO is there any > Omme> other countries that use NTSC. Just want to know how many > Omme> dudes miss my game if I release only PAL version...CU! > > Japan, Canada, Mexico, bits of Russia seem to aswell. Actually, I think > only the UK and Australia/NZ use PAL, everybody else uses SECAM (europe) > or NTSC. Uh uh, NTSC is largely used in the Americas and Japan. PAL is the standard everywhere else with the exception of the ex-Soviet Union and France where SECAM and its derivatives are used. > Why not force the machine into PAL mode? Agreed, the colours are much better. And you'll get a much larger share of the Amiga market that way. Mike. You can reach Mike Richards at the following /@\ \|/ address ... (if you're that desperate). `-\ \ ______ - 0 - \ \/ ` / \ /|\ _ mhr@aber.ac.uk \_i / \ |\____// | |==| |=----/ ---- Why not drop me a line ...? -------------------hn/--hn/----------- From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 30 17:22:41 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA12992 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 17:22:16 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 15:20:49 +0100 Message-Id: <13067.199408301415@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 15:15:41 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 30 Aug 94 14:43:00 BST Subject: Autobooting. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all(or is it just OTT left?) I've written a short program(star scrolly thing) that I want to put on a boot block loader. I have the routines to put things on blocks of the disk and to call them at certain address from the boot-block itself. The Program loads - does not crash, but just sits there, a blank screen and nothing else. I've relocated everything to a base address then called that address from the loader code. Does anything else need to be done????? From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 30 18:03:58 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA16005 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 18:03:45 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qfUj0-0003TfC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 18:03 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 30 Aug 94 18:06:11 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 30 Aug 94 18:06:09 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 18:06:09 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: Pal or NTSC Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: <7827402366@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > > Why not force the machine into PAL mode? > > Agreed, the colours are much better. And you'll get a much > larger share of the Amiga market that way. But if the NTSC user is using TV set for monitor then the TV will go bananas or what (I booted machin in NTSC on a pal tv - picy was pretty smashed ;) O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 31 10:10:22 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA04453 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:02:41 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qfjgr-0002uAC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:02 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:05:06 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:04:58 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:04:56 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: Mem Fragmentation - half solved Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: <88227B0DC7@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all (Neil)! > What we did is allocate three areas of memory big enough to hold our > largest bitmaps. We then use CludgeBitMap to make one of these areas > into a bitmap. That way, we have absolute control over bitplane allocations. > > Finally, we call AllocMem_ with a huge value a lot. This defrags the > memory to a large extent. > I had same idea in mind. Can you explain a bit this bitmap cludge'ing. I had some problems with it. What exactly does this cludgebitmap command want? Addres of a bitmap itself or the whole bitmap object structure? Must I create my own bitmap struct by hand?? Hmm..yes here comes my other question. Someone explained once this but I lost this msg so here it comes. How can I create blitz objects without useing blitz commands to allocate them. For example I think it's not wise to oad 10 samples one by one into memory. Instead I thought I link all samples into one piece, alloc some chip and load linked samples into it. Here's the problem - how I suppose to tell blitz that I have sound object #1 starting from addr x, sound #2 startting from x+z etc.?? O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 31 13:33:31 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA22999 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:33:05 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qfmyU-0002woC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 13:33 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 31 Aug 94 13:35:33 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 31 Aug 94 13:35:32 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:35:28 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: Mem Fragmentation - half solved Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: <8BA4F8626C@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > wo how about starting a new line once in a while ott! Anyway, the bitmap > structure for blitz is just the object size, there is a pointer in this > object that point to chipmem, be it a screensbitmap your bitmap or a > cludged bitmap. cludgebitmap does not allocate ANY memory, instead uses > withwords*height*bitplanes amount of the memory you supplied So if need to cludge bitmap I do next?? 1. Alooc chip 2. Load pure bitmpadata into it 3. Cludge bitmap #, addr,x,y etc. Now I should have bitmap obkect created by cludgebitmap. Am I right? > v1.9 contains decode commands that allow you to incbin sound, shapes etc > into your program and then decode them, although these commands are > accessible in RILibs and Elmore's include library I have decided to > internalise them so that memory usage is both tight and tidy (minimum > requirements and least amount of fragmenting), hmmm, Next question is where can I get V1.9 ;)??? O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 31 20:20:14 1994 Received: from post.demon.co.uk (post.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.72]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA25678 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 20:19:26 +0300 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 20:19:26 +0300 Received: from autotv.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa10982; 31 Aug 94 17:23 GMT-60:00 X-Sender: mail@autotv.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi From: Automatic Television Subject: Re: Hello (and help) X-Mailer: Message-ID: <9408311723.aa10982@post.demon.co.uk> X-Status: Status: RO Thanks for the reply (s): >From: Jurgen Valks >Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch >Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 14:28:55 GMT-1DFT >>loop: >> a$=edit$(1) >> If a$<>"q" Then Goto loop >> >Put WBSTARTUP in your program and check it out. Tried it first, no joy. I think it`s more system`y than that. -------------------------------------------------------------- This one came through my personal mail, I hope Mr Funnell doesn`t mind me posting the reply to the list (just in case there`s anyone else reading it / interested) >From: Mr M L Funnell >Date: 25 Aug 94 14:54:00 BST >Subject: Hi fellow blitzer.... >To: jonny@autotv.demon.co.uk > >Ahhhhh.... > > Gadtools has a problem on older machines ie. not KS3.x where you >need to use ID's of over 50 - try that and see what happens. > Hmmmm, sounds feasable, haven`t had time to try it yet, I`ll let you know... > Also, where did you get bum6 from? I currently run ver1.7 and ted >v1.0. > > HELP!!! BUM6 came through the post. (I bought Blitz2 from Amiga Format`s special offer several months ago) IntuiTools2 is quite useable now!! I don`t beleive I`m allowed to upload this as it`s the full working version but hows about Acid uploads an upgrade kit to AmiNet (and the rest of the BUMs while you`re at it.) with some sort of encryption / key needed to unpack it?? While I`m here (and may have the attention of someone at Acid) Any chance of getting the compiler to run from CED (or similar) (btw what`s the point of tokenised script files, they seem to take up almost as much disc space and can`t be read by anything else ?) Has anyone got results back from ARexx commands (like ADPRO_RESULT??) apart from writing them to ENV vars and opening them as DOS files (Kludge-tastic) Oh yes, ASLRequesters within Functions seem to lock up big time (?). ...and many, mant more Apart from that...excellent language, good list (what I`ve seen of it so far), enjoy. Just read today`s mail list, V1.9...WHERE??? yours (hoping not to have to re-learn C) Jonny Bradley ******************************************************************* * A U T O M A T I C T E L E V I S I O N * * Computer/TV Solutions * * VOICE (UK): 071 240 2073 * ******************************************************************* From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 1 10:26:55 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA03430 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:05:29 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qg6EB-0003TzC; Thu, 1 Sep 94 10:06 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 1 Sep 94 10:07:49 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 1 Sep 94 10:07:40 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:07:39 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: V1.9 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > > > v1.9 contains decode commands that allow you to incbin sound, shapes etc > > > into your program and then decode them, although these commands are > > > accessible in RILibs and Elmore's include library I have decided to > > > internalise them so that memory usage is both tight and tidy (minimum > > > requirements and least amount of fragmenting), hmmm, > > > > Next question is where can I get V1.9 ;)??? > > > > It is in w0:Blitz2/m on my A4000!!! > ^^^^^^^^^^^ Well...good you mentioned the full path - now I know where I can get it when I visit U 8)...Ok,ok! Are you going to release it or do we just have to continue with V1.8 knowing your A4000's HD contains da 1.9!!!!! CU! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 1 12:34:41 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA14230 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 12:11:34 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <02934-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:11:29 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20952; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:06:47 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 1 Sep 94 11:08:35 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 1 Sep 94 11:08:25 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:08:18 GMT-1DFT Subject: Simon's Fax number Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: <15C98D2A01@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, Can somebody mail me Simon's fax number, he doesn't respond to my Email, so I gonna fax a whole rol of toilet paper.... Cya Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-66 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 1 16:01:16 1994 Received: from cs.uml.edu (cs.uml.edu [129.63.1.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA06230 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:56:16 +0300 Received: by cs.uml.edu id AA09518 (5.67a+/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 1 Sep 1994 08:56:06 -0400 From: Ralph Barbagallo Message-Id: <199409011256.AA09518@cs.uml.edu> Subject: Hey!!!!!!!!! To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 08:56:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O I've got a VERY basic shape collision routine running...but, it seems that there is a HUGE border around my shapes. If the bullet goes anywhere near the shape, it detects a collision. I am using ShapesHit and the x,y positions of the shapes. Is there a way to control this area of detection? From rbarbaga@cs.uml.edu Thu Sep 1 17:03:33 1994 Received: from cs.uml.edu (cs.uml.edu [129.63.1.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA06230 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:56:16 +0300 Received: by cs.uml.edu id AA09518 (5.67a+/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 1 Sep 1994 08:56:06 -0400 From: Ralph Barbagallo Message-Id: <199409011256.AA09518@cs.uml.edu> Subject: Hey!!!!!!!!! To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 08:56:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO I've got a VERY basic shape collision routine running...but, it seems that there is a HUGE border around my shapes. If the bullet goes anywhere near the shape, it detects a collision. I am using ShapesHit and the x,y positions of the shapes. Is there a way to control this area of detection? From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 1 17:18:08 1994 Received: from email (email.meto.govt.uk [151.170.240.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA13557 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 17:17:25 +0300 From: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk Received: from email.meto.govt.uk (HADMO@HADL60) by email.meto.govt.uk (PMDF V4.2-11 #3313) id <01HGLMZ9GFHC002J4E@email.meto.govt.uk>; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:12:33 GMT Date: Thu, 01 Sep 1994 14:12:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: BitPlanesBitmap To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HGLMZ9MLB6002J4E@email.meto.govt.uk> X-VMS-To: EMAIL::in%"blitz-list@helsinki.fi" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: O Has anyone managed to get 'BitPlanesBitmap' to work? I think the syntax is: BitPlanesBitmap SrcBitmap,DestBitmap,Bitplane What sort of argument should 'Bitplane' be? Just a number like 0,1 or 2? Say I've got a 3 plane bitmap with some shapes on it, some of them in colour 1. How do I copy this bitmap to a different 1 plane bitmap, so the new bitmap has only the shapes in colour 1 on it? -Matthew ____________________________________________________________________________ ////////// Matthew O'Donnell |||||||||| modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk \\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 2 22:49:50 1994 Received: from post.demon.co.uk (post.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.72]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA26269 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 22:46:44 +0300 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 22:46:44 +0300 Received: by post.demon.co.uk id al05073; 2 Sep 94 19:38 GMT-60:00 Received: from autotv.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa24777; 2 Sep 94 19:08 GMT-60:00 X-Sender: mail@autotv.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi From: Automatic Television Subject: Re: Hello (and help) X-Mailer: Message-ID: <9409021909.aa24777@post.demon.co.uk> X-Status: Status: RO On 1 Sept Acid kindly wrote...[edited] >>> >>loop: >>> >> a$=edit$(1) >>> >> If a$<>"q" Then Goto loop >>> >> >>> >>> >Put WBSTARTUP in your program and check it out. >>> >>> Tried it first, no joy. I think it`s more system`y than that. >>> >>I just fixed a bug in edit$ to do with window based edit$, I'll test it >>again to make sure I don`t think it`s that because it does the same crash in progs without edit$ I only used edit$ because I thought it would be fairly likely to be stable :) I sure it would do the same with... loop: Goto loop I`ll try it when I can get on the 2000 >> >>> > Gadtools has a problem on older machines ie. not KS3.x where you >>> >need to use ID's of over 50 - try that and see what happens. >>> > >>> >>I posted a uuencoded upgrade to gadtools last week, one report says it is >>better, I'd like more confirmation (from you guys perhaps?) Must have been before I was on the list, I`ll check Aminet. >> >>> BUM6 came through the post. (I bought Blitz2 from Amiga Format`s special offer >>> several months ago) IntuiTools2 is quite useable now!! >>> I don`t beleive I`m allowed to upload this as it`s the full working version >>> but hows about Acid uploads an upgrade kit to AmiNet (and the rest of the BUMs >>> while you`re at it.) with some sort of encryption / key needed to unpack it?? >>> >> >>I'd say policy from now on is anything in the EXAMPLES drawers of bums is >>open for public abuse, not sure about the encryption thing, any one else >>care to comment? Okeydokey, what about the luveley IntuiTools though? >> >>> While I`m here (and may have the attention of someone at Acid) >>> Any chance of getting the compiler to run from CED (or similar) (btw >>> what`s the point of tokenised script files, >>> they seem to take up almost as much disc space >>> and can`t be read by anything else ?) >>> Has anyone got results back from ARexx commands (like ADPRO_RESULT??) >>> apart from writing them to ENV vars and >>> opening them >>> as DOS files (Kludge-tastic) >>> Oh yes, ASLRequesters within Functions seem to lock up big time (?). >>> ...and many, mant more >> >>Hmmm, 1, tokenising does speed up compiling, loading and saving, Blitz3 >>will DEFINATELY support other editors. 2. i have never had any problems >>with ARexx and adpro, what are you trying to do? Like trying to get RC (0 or non zero) back from a "OKAY2" command with the actual SendArexxConnad and .... Untill ...RexxEvent....=RexxMessage stuff inside a Function? (I like Functions!) >>As for ASLRequesters in >>functions I';ll look into it, >> >>WARNING TO LIBRARY WRITERS, PLEASE RETURN A4 AS YOU FOUND IT, OTHERWISE >>YOUR COMMANDS WILL NOT WORK INSIDE FUNCTIONS/PROCEDURES! Hmmm ******************************************************************* * A U T O M A T I C T E L E V I S I O N * * Computer/TV Solutions * * VOICE (UK): 071 240 2073 * ******************************************************************* From blitz-list-request Sat Sep 3 19:49:35 1994 Received: from acs2.bu.edu (ACS2.BU.EDU [128.197.152.20]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA08647 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 1994 19:48:43 +0300 From: hacker@acs.bu.edu Received: by acs2.bu.edu (8.6.9/BU_SmartClient-1.0) id MAA40537; Sat, 3 Sep 1994 12:43:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 12:43:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199409031643.MAA40537@acs2.bu.edu> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: SUBSCRIBE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO SUBSCRIBE hacker@acs.bu.edu subscribe hacker@acs.bu.edu From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 5 12:32:21 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA00206 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 12:30:43 +0300 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 10:23:05 +0100 Message-Id: <94090510230540@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Stuff X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Date sent: Hi folks, > Just to say that my ftp site is now open. If you have any blitz stuff > you want to put on it, simply log in and download, making sure to > include a txt file too.. At last its back on line! > IMPORTANT: This ftp site is based on a crappy novell system, so only > 8.3 filenames are allowed!!! 8( So no .readme files (they won't > work), just .txt files (eg. myprog.txt). Tragic PC rubbish! Buy an Amiga A4000T! > Currently the ftp site is only one directory, but I'll hopefully > structure it a bit better as soon as I have time, adding a blitz dir > etc etc. If you have a new version of a blitz program already on the > site, you cannot upload over the top of the old one, or delete it. > So either call the new one by a different name (and I'll sort it > out), or upload to the incoming dir which I'll eventually create!! Hurray? > 2. Its not a speedy site, so please don't abuse it. I'm only > providing it as a service to fellow blitzers. If problems arise due > to misuse or cronic over use (which will slow my PC down - which my > boss won;t be too happy about, and its slow enough anyway 8^), then I > may withdraw it. So no complaints about the speed, its the speed you > see, and nothing will change that... Speed? Ha! Try using the sisvax! > 1. Starwoids (dms). Oldish version actually, but I'll leave it there. Cool little game..... ;-) > 2. RILibs. This is newer than the one on aminet, but not the newist! > Steve, upload with all speed. I'll try and get something sorted out over the next week. A new release of the ZoneJoy library is nearly ready. It supports 020 instructions (i.e. CMP2) and has had the joystick testing routines enchanced to remove unnecessary code and sloppy work ;-). Hopefully I'll be testing the lib out, then once I've done exhaustive testing (e.g. about 10 mins) I'll go some updating docs for it. Note: The 020 testing is switch on or offable BUT you can obviously only switch it on if you have a 68020 in your Amiga. > 3. BlitzGuide. Again, not the newish I don't think, but again, upload > the new one if you want Jurgen. Great work from Jurgen! I've got the guide installed on my machine and have it available at a touch of a key. Everyone should have a copy ;-). TO MARTIN: ~~~~~~~~~~ I have been unable to mail you directly. I have, though, placed a message in your ftp site named TOMARTIN.TXT. Read this and delete it please. Anyone else can read it as well but I don't think you'll get too much out of it ;-). Bye-bye from me, Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| My map editor's NOT a bit buggy ;-) | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | Current project : BlitzBombers AGA | | | [#################################:] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v??? | | | [###########################:::::::] | | | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.2 | | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [#################################:] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 5 11:42:57 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA26068 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 11:40:36 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <10719-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 09:40:30 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 5 Sep 94 9:47:32 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 5 Sep 94 9:47:04 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 09:47:01 GMT0BST Subject: FTP site Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <1E2118621F0@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi folks, Just to say that my ftp site is now open. If you have any blitz stuff you want to put on it, simply log in and download, making sure to include a txt file too.. IMPORTANT: This ftp site is based on a crappy novell system, so only 8.3 filenames are allowed!!! 8( So no .readme files (they won't work), just .txt files (eg. myprog.txt). Currently the ftp site is only one directory, but I'll hopefully structure it a bit better as soon as I have time, adding a blitz dir etc etc. If you have a new version of a blitz program already on the site, you cannot upload over the top of the old one, or delete it. So either call the new one by a different name (and I'll sort it out), or upload to the incoming dir which I'll eventually create!! WARNING: 1. This site is only available during UK office working hours, sorry. 2. Its not a speedy site, so please don't abuse it. I'm only providing it as a service to fellow blitzers. If problems arise due to misuse or cronic over use (which will slow my PC down - which my boss won;t be too happy about, and its slow enough anyway 8^), then I may withdraw it. So no complaints about the speed, its the speed you see, and nothing will change that... Anyway, have fun. Currently on the board are: 1. Starwoids (dms). Oldish version actually, but I'll leave it there. 2. RILibs. This is newer than the one on aminet, but not the newist! Steve, upload with all speed. 3. BlitzGuide. Again, not the newish I don't think, but again, upload the new one if you want Jurgen. slow enough already From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 5 11:46:18 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA26511 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 11:44:41 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <10758-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 09:44:30 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 5 Sep 94 9:51:32 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 5 Sep 94 9:51:01 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 09:50:52 GMT0BST Subject: FTP site - bum Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <1E222663293@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Damn, I forgot to give the address again didn't I, sigh... Its cekift.swan.ac.uk, and login as anonymous. P.S. I you get an error msg when connecting like 'cannot connect' or whatever, this could either mean that the server is off-line for a while, or it could equally mean that there are too many login's. This system is crap at error-msgs. Anyway, thats enough bandwidth from me... From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 5 12:17:38 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA29260 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 12:16:23 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <16237-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 11:16:15 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22357; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 11:11:27 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:13:26 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:13:11 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 11:13:06 GMT-1DFT Subject: BB2 GUIDE V1.2 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: <75E0A026A0@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hello All, The new BB2 guide is now available at Martin Kift's FTP server. The adres is: CEKIFT.SWAN.UC.UK. A new update will follow when I get BUM7. To simon: Can you mail me the ascii files allready ?? Cya all! Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-66 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 5 13:50:48 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA07300 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 13:49:17 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <12045-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 11:49:00 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:56:02 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:55:58 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 11:55:55 GMT0BST Subject: FTP site - again Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <1E4378D4AFF@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Sorry for *yet another* ftp site post, I'll keep it short... I've now structured my ftp site a tad better. When you login, you'll see this directory structure: >games >blitz >libs >docs >incoming Please upload to incoming only, and include a text file describing the thing you are uploading. If what you are uploading doesn't fit into an existing dir, then I'll probably create a new one for it... I'll create a readme file too, with a full dir listing..... So upload those files, lets fill this site with some nice stuff, mainly blitz stuff. Since I'm limiting the size tho, I'm not going to fill it with music and demos etc, mostly blitz related material... From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 5 17:04:44 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA23121 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 16:55:45 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 14:54:14 +0100 Message-Id: <22560.199409051349@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 14:49:00 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 05 Sep 94 14:39:00 BST Subject: Blitz Guide To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Could someone please mail me the new version of Blitz Guide(uuencoded) as I have no access to ftp at the moment. Thanks, Matt From mlf27308@ggr.co.uk Wed Sep 7 21:59:50 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA23121 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 16:55:45 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 14:54:14 +0100 Message-Id: <22560.199409051349@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 14:49:00 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 05 Sep 94 14:39:00 BST Subject: Blitz Guide To: blitz-list@Helsinki.FI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Could someone please mail me the new version of Blitz Guide(uuencoded) as I have no access to ftp at the moment. Thanks, Matt From blitz-list-request Tue Sep 6 10:09:00 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA14287 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 10:07:46 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qhudJ-0003g7C; Tue, 6 Sep 94 10:07 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 6 Sep 94 10:10:17 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 6 Sep 94 10:10:14 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 10:10:09 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: V1.9 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: <136FA208A5@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi! [Feature list deleted] > New Commands > ------------ > > GTStatus(GTList#,Id) ;bbgtlib > GTArrowSize size ;bbgtlib > DecodeILBM BitMap#,MemoryLocation ;ilbmifflib > DecodeSound Sound#,MemoryLocation ;audiolib > DecodePalette Palette#,MemoryLocation[,Palette Offset] ;palettelib > DecodeMedModule MedModule#,MemoryLocation ;medlib > DecodeShapes Shape#[,Shape#],MemoryLocation ;shapeslib > InitShape Shape#,Width,Height,Depth ;shapeslib > SetPeriod Sound#,Period ;audiolib ;audiolib > Bank(Bank#) [Loads of new commands deleted] Sounds COOOL to me! Just one question (to ACID). Do the registered users get this upgrade free? If no then what do I have to do to get it? I was about to release my game but as 1.9 is on it's way (I hope) I guess I'll wait a bit. CU! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Tue Sep 6 10:12:52 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA14591 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 10:11:56 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <28468-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 09:11:32 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17280; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 09:06:42 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 6 Sep 94 9:08:44 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 6 Sep 94 9:08:20 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 09:08:11 GMT-1DFT Subject: Blitz Project Report Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: <8BCC9B2829@ms1.hsbos.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O It's a long time ago, but here it is again. BPR - Blitz Project Report #8 updated: 06-09-94 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please notice the place when you upload a project when it's completed or ready for beta testing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Nigel Hughes EMAIL : nlh1@aber.uk.ac PROJECT : Tetris Duel [AGA 2 Player Tetris With 6 Specials] STATUS : Shareware Version on Aminet in /game/think/ Tetris_Duel.lha. Registered version 95% complete PROJECT : Hall Of Champions (AGA beat 'em up) STATUS : 30% complete (need MORE graphics) PROJECT : U.F.O Force (CD-ROM AGA Stratergy Extravaganza) STATUS : Design and story boarding stage PROJECT : Shapez, Blitz shape grabber and manipulator STATUS : Version 1.00 complete, should be on Aminet (Mikko?) Version : 2.00 50% complete -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : SgtBilko (Mark Tiffany) EMAIL : As above or PHY93003@bham.ac.uk (my mail server sometimes refuses mail that goes to either of them!) PROJECT : Virtual Worlds STATUS : As of 28/6/94, V1.011 now available -> Editor 99% complete. It all works, but more _WILL_ be added. Note: NO Interpreter. Interpreter is still about 25% complete and will be available October `94 (roughly). DESCRIP.: Adventure Creation System, mainly for text adventures with still graphics, support for Monkey Island style adventures to be implemented once main features are complete. AVAIL. : dev/misc/VirtualWorlds1_011.lha on aminet PROJECT : Virtual Software Include Libraries STATUS : 28/6/94 ToolTypes,ASL,TextEntry supported. Constantly(ish) updated. DESCRIP.: A few include files that give some nice features for your progs. AVAIL. : dev/basic/VS-Includes.lha on aminet --------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Jurgen Valks EMAIL : j.valks@hsbos.nl PROJECT : Hero 2049 DESCRIP.: A C64 conversion of Hero but with more hightech & special weapons. STATUS : About 30%, I have found a active graphic artists at last! PROJECT : Blitz2 AmigaGuide file V1.2 STATUS : Ready and available on Martin Kift's FTP server: cekift.swan.uc.uk PROJECT : Blitz2 AmigaGuide file V1.3 with BUM7 included. STATUS : Will be ready next weekend. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Michael Cooper EMAIL : mcc@met.ed.ac.uk PROJECT : Mr. Zen (Platform/God sim kind of game) STATUS : 25% completed -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : David Marshall EMAIL : D.P.Marshall@durham.ac.uk PROJECT : Outline Font Editor STATUS : 40% finished -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : William Nolan EMAIL : wn22@cmu.edu PROJECT : Commando Raid (vertical scrolling shoot em up, scrolls downwards, not up like most) STATUS : 100% complete. This game is now available on Aminet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Martin Kift EMAIL : M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk PROJECT : StarWoids DESCRIP.: Thinking mans shoot'em up (based on classic game 'Oids') STATUS : Demo version is completed, and will be uploaded to various ftp sites (including aminet) in the next few days. Work has now started on the complete (shareware) version, and should be complete in a couple of months. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Paul Reece EMAIL : preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au PROJECT : Porting my AMOS music extension to Blitz2. STATUS : Version 1.2 is COMPLETE!! Features PT routines, Sampling, TFMX and MORE!! If you are interested in BetaTesting, please email me at paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au with your system details etc. and I'll think about it... :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Peter Sandberg EMAIL : sand@gfl.se PROJECT : SpaceMan, An isometric-labyrinth-shoot'em up STATUS : Ready for alfa-testing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME : Keith Suddick EMAIL : Keith.Suddick@Northumbria.AC.UK PROJECT : Wriggly II DESCRIP.: Maze/puzzle game - written for Blitz competition STATUS : 80% completed, but currently in a working state -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-66 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Tue Sep 6 15:03:52 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA08120 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:00:23 +0300 Received: from sisvax (actually sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk) by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Tue, 6 Sep 1994 14:56:03 +0300 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 12:51:19 +0100 Message-Id: <94090612511975@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Zones.... X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Date sent: A question to anybody out there who uses the ZoneJoy library from Reflective Images. For the latest version of the libary I have had to do a little reshuffling of how the zones were held in memory. This was to enable to library too use the 020 instruction CMP2. This reshuffling means that old programs that use the library and access the zone table directly will no longer work. I am interested in whether or not people will actually mind about this change, or whether the benefits of 020 support outway the disadvantage of a bit of rewriting. What do you think? New instructions in the library: ZonesMode - ask if zonetesting is on 68000 or 68020 mode. SetZonesMode - set the zonestesting mode. The library also checks what processor you have when it is initialised and automatically sets the mode to 020 if you have one fitted. Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | Current project : BlitzBombers AGA | | | [#################################:] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v??? | | | [###########################:::::::] | | | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.2 | | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [#################################:] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 8 08:50:07 1994 Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.220.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA05145 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 08:49:43 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id HAA04547; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 07:49:38 +0200 Received: by xs.multi.se (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0tdf@xs.multi.se>; Wed, 7 Sep 94 22:05:08 MET Received: by tfd.multi.se (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0abf@tfd.multi.se>; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:26:57 MET Message-Id: <9409061726.0abf@tfd.multi.se> Date: 06 Sep 94 13:11:16 CET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: The Fourth Dimension, Gråbo, Sweden X-Mailer: AmiGate 0.16a (7.3.94) From: mats@tfd.multi.se (Mats Persson) To: BLITZ-LIST@HELSINKI.FI Subject: unsubscribe X-Status: Status: RO Please UNSUBSCRIBE me... ____ ___ _______ _____ / \ / \/ \/ \ Fido: 2:203/319.9 / \ / . \__ __/\ __/ Internet: mats@tfd.multi.se / | | \/ \/ \ \ \ \__|__|__/\___|___/\___/____\ \ / \ \_______________________________/ From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 8 04:45:44 1994 Received: from ub.d.umn.edu (ub.d.umn.edu [131.212.32.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA24765 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 04:22:33 +0300 Received: (from bharvey@localhost) by ub.d.umn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA22092; Wed, 7 Sep 1994 20:20:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 20:20:55 -0500 (CDT) From: brenda harvey Subject: BlitzList-Request! To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO I'm requesting to be put oon th Blitz-List. Thanks! Justin bharvey@ub.d.umn.edu From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 8 04:52:53 1994 Received: from ub.d.umn.edu (ub.d.umn.edu [131.212.32.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA25565 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 04:48:50 +0300 Received: (from bharvey@localhost) by ub.d.umn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA26747; Wed, 7 Sep 1994 20:47:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 20:47:14 -0500 (CDT) From: brenda harvey Subject: Subscribe To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Subscribe bharvey@ub.d.umn.edu From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 8 16:43:52 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA20771 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 16:42:58 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <28933-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 15:39:45 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25954; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 15:34:43 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 8 Sep 94 3:38:53 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 8 Sep 94 3:38:44 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 03:38:40 GMT-1DFT Subject: Execute? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, Is there a special command for executing commands or do I have to use the function from the exec library ?? Cya Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-66 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From J.VALKS@hsbos.nl Thu Sep 8 18:25:53 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA20771 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 16:42:58 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <28933-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 15:39:45 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25954; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 15:34:43 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 8 Sep 94 3:38:53 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 8 Sep 94 3:38:44 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 03:38:40 GMT-1DFT Subject: Execute? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, Is there a special command for executing commands or do I have to use the function from the exec library ?? Cya Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-66 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 8 18:02:46 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA27288 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 18:02:20 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qikyg-0002sEC; Thu, 8 Sep 94 18:01 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 8 Sep 94 18:04:18 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 8 Sep 94 18:03:19 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 18:03:17 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: (B)loading and stuff Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: <376D2C764B@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all! Yet another annoying bug found. Just want to confirm this thing - maybe it's just my fault. Thing is that sometimes when loading some stuff into mem (QAMIGA mode) machine crashes, not that it reboots but HD led stays on and it just hangs. Funny thing is that everything seems like working (pressing CTRL C will bring up debugger screen) but HD led still stays on - nothing will be readed though. From debugger it's now impossible to return to Ted only reboot helps. What sux is that this thing is not traceable, meaning that sometimes it crashes and sometime it doesn't. Lets say...1 from 10 will crash. The problems occur when Bloading stuff so maybe it's RIlibs fault. Then again my mate said he had same problems with LoadShapes command too. Maybe it has something to do with specific HD (I haven't tested it on floppy) or maybe it's Blitz bug. Comments? Has anyone had problems like this?? Bye! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 9 09:35:44 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA15084 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 09:35:16 +0300 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <19121-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:35:06 +0200 Received: from ms1.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24823; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:29:38 +0200 Received: from MS1/MAILQUEUE by ms1.hsbos.nl (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 8 Sep 94 20:33:43 GMT-1DFT Received: from MAILQUEUE by MS1 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 8 Sep 94 20:33:38 GMT-1DFT From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 20:33:31 GMT-1DFT Subject: Execute !? X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi all, Is there a special command for executing commands or do I have to use the function from the exec library ?? Greetings from, /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Jurgen Valks, Helpdesk HTO | | | | Tel : +31 (0)73-145977 Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | Systems : Amiga 2000 4mb Fast | | Amiga 1200, 68030, 40Mhz. 4mb Fast | | PC 486DX-66 (at home) | | PC 486SX-33 (at my work) | | Consoles: SNES, Sega | | Spec. : Programming [PC/Amiga] | | | \_____________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 8 22:36:55 1994 Received: from gboro.rowan.edu (gboro.rowan.edu [150.250.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA14552 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 22:35:17 +0300 Received: by gboro.rowan.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA20805; Thu, 8 Sep 94 15:35:12 -0400 Received: from MARS/MAILQUEUE by mars.rowan.edu (Mercury 1.11); Thu, 8 Sep 94 15:35:13 +0500 Received: from MAILQUEUE by MARS (Mercury 1.11); Thu, 8 Sep 94 15:34:47 +0500 From: "MACIEJ GORNY" Organization: Rowan College of NJ To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 15:34:43 EST Subject: EXECUTING SHELL COMMANDS Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Could anyone, please, give me some clues as to how to execute regular CLI commands from within Blitz2? How can I get all files in a directory into a string array, etc...? Any help appreciated.... Thanx, Maciej From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 9 00:44:21 1994 Received: from xs1.xs4all.nl (xs1.xs4all.nl [193.78.33.42]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA20601 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 00:44:10 +0300 Received: from quasar.hacktic.nl by xs1.xs4all.nl with UUCP id AA15388 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for helsinki.fi!blitz-list); Thu, 8 Sep 1994 23:44:14 +0200 Received: by quasar.xs4all.nl (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0t2r@quasar.xs4all.nl>; Thu, 8 Sep 94 23:39:52 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Sep 94 23:39:52 +0200 Message-Id: <1f6361b1.bfcdf-blitz-basic2@quasar.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <75E0A026A0@ms1.hsbos.nl> (from Jurgen Valks ) (at Mon, 5 Sep 1994 11:13:06 GMT-1DFT) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 4.93) Organization: Private, Delft [NL] From: blitz-basic2@quasar.xs4all.nl (Eric Krieger) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: BB2 GUIDE V1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi. Jurgen Valks wrote in <75E0A026A0@ms1.hsbos.nl> on Sep 5: > The new BB2 guide is now available at Martin Kift's FTP server. The > adres is: CEKIFT.SWAN.UC.UK. ^ First the correct address should be (correct me if I'm wrong, but there doesn't exist a domain with ".uc.uk"), for those who tried without luck: cekift.swan.ac.uk which is a valid address. Secondly, upto now, I haven't been able to log on this address yet (I seem to remember that the server could be down, or that there're already two users logged on)... anyone? Therefore is it possible to put the BB2 guide on Aminet as well? Thanks, Eric Krieger From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 9 10:11:36 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA18534 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 10:11:13 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qj06t-0002WgC; Fri, 9 Sep 94 10:10 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 9 Sep 94 10:13:55 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 9 Sep 94 10:13:53 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 10:13:53 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: HD LOCKING UP Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: <479A8A0D50@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > I have a similar problem with my A4000 sometimes and the IDE drive. It > only seems to happen when runtimeerrors are enabled, and if you have > another process running (a shell) you can dir the drive that is locked > and everything comes right, can you try this for me? I use QAMIGA mode so I can't access any other process even if it runs on background. Amiga+M (which will normally brings up next screen will do just a flick - seems like for a vbl WB screen comes to front but then blitz will redraw it's view. Actually this is kinda lame too or what?? Is it somehow possible to remove this... ...bug too if you sort out the HD lockup thing. BTW do you mean by locking up just that you can't read stuff from it or what. In my case the LED just stays on like it's accessing HD. One thing I checked out is that it doesn't affect music playing when it hangs - I use playmed on vbl interrupt and if HD locks then med module just keeps playing like everything was just fine... Anyway I hope you fix this thing in V1.9. CU! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 9 10:53:21 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA21986 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 10:52:36 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <15370-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:52:31 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 9 Sep 94 8:59:32 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 9 Sep 94 8:59:17 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:59:17 GMT0BST Subject: Re: BB2 GUIDE V1.2 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <241486C4D6D@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O > First the correct address should be (correct me if I'm wrong, but > there doesn't exist a domain with ".uc.uk"), for those who tried > without luck: > cekift.swan.ac.uk Yep, sorry my cock-up there, should be ac not uc. > Secondly, upto now, I haven't been able to log on this address yet (I > seem to remember that the server could be down, or that there're > already two users logged on)... anyone? Sorry again, but I'm having network problems at the moment, which means my ftp site is off-line for a while, maybe indefinitely, since I have discovered it places a fair penality on my system when people are logged in. Who knows... Martin Kift - Procede Software Tel: +44 (0)792 205678 ext 4096 Fax: +44 (0)792 295701 From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 9 12:59:02 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA04757 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 12:58:41 +0300 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually mailsun.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 9 Sep 1994 10:58:37 +0100 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Display Library Date: Fri, 09 Sep 1994 10:58:35 +0100 Message-ID: <19387.779104715@aber.ac.uk> From: NIGEL HUGHES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: O Hi All, Found an interesting problem with display lib... I have an 4000/030 + 882 + 2+4Mb RAM and multiscan monitor, and the game screen, opened using display lib, is fine. I took the game round to me mates last night and the display was all tahooey. If each 16 pixels is allocated a letter (so I can describe the problem) and the screen SHOULD show ABCDEFGH on my friends machine one gets, AACCEEGG His is a 1200 with 2+4mb and 40Mhz EC030 + 882 and single scan monitor. Any ideas? Acid? This is all that is stopping me releasing a demo... Nigel From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 9 16:21:03 1994 Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA25745 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 16:20:43 +0300 Received: from charon2.dundee.ac.uk by pp.dundee.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <27447-0@pp.dundee.ac.uk>; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 14:09:49 +0100 Received: From ITS/MAILQUEUE by charon2.dundee.ac.uk via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940909141911.576; 09 Sep 94 14:27:59 +0500 Message-ID: From: STUART MACLEAN Organization: Dundee University To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 14:19:00 GMT Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Please UNSUBSCRIBE me at From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 9 21:38:03 1994 Received: from ub.d.umn.edu (ub.d.umn.edu [131.212.32.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA15288 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 21:37:24 +0300 Received: (from bharvey@localhost) by ub.d.umn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA02478; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 13:35:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 13:35:46 -0500 (CDT) From: brenda harvey Subject: Blitz-Request To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO subscribe blitz-list bharvey@ub.d.umn.edu From blitz-list-request Sun Sep 11 01:04:28 1994 Received: from ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU (ouray.denver.colorado.edu [132.194.10.9]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA24284 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 1994 01:04:02 +0300 Received: by ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU (5.65/cudenver.ether) id AA23376; Sat, 10 Sep 1994 16:02:38 -0600 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 16:02:38 -0600 (MDT) From: HESHAM MOHAMED AMIRI To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO subcribe From blitz-list-request Fri May 6 16:04:16 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA12041 for ; Fri, 6 May 1994 16:03:25 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA28235 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Fri, 6 May 1994 09:03:17 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199405061303.AA28235@access1.digex.net> Subject: USA Support To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 09:03:16 -0400 (ADT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 565 X-Status: Status: RO USA support is nice. A bit slow, obviously due to the fact that the main people are in NZ. But, before the current support, there was the support in Arizona which stole all the money that registered users sent for BUM subscriptions. Just thought I'd put your mind at ease, Martin. ;) Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Mon May 9 11:28:20 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA10689 for ; Mon, 9 May 1994 11:27:45 +0300 Received: from athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 9 May 1994 09:25:51 +0100 Received: from thorbb by athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk (4.1/aberclient-4.0-cs-1.1) id AA28103; Mon, 9 May 94 09:25:31 BST To: Jurgen Valks Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi, nlh1@aber.ac.uk Subject: Re: Project In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 May 1994 08:40:53 GMT." <15020E8175D@ms1.hsbos.nl> Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 09:25:45 +0100 Message-Id: <12380.768471945@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: Nigel Hughes X-Status: Status: RO OK Here goes, NAME : Nigel Hughes EMAIL: nlh1@aber.uk.ac PROJECT : Tetris Duel [AGA 2 Player Tetris With 6 Specials] STATUS: Shareware Version on Aminet in /game/think/Tetris_Duel.lha Registered version 95% complete NAME: Nigel Hughes EMAIL: nlh1@aber.uk.ac PROJECT :Hall Of Champions (AGA beat 'em up) STATUS : 30% complete (need MORE graphics) NAME: Nigel Hughes EMAIL: nlh1@aber.uk.ac PROJECT :U.F.O Force (CD-ROM AGA Stratergy Extravaganza) STATUS: Design and story boarding stage NAME: Nigel Hughes EMAIL: nlh1@aber.uk.ac PROJECT : Shapez, Blitz shape grabber and manipulator STATUS: Version 1.00 complete, should be on Aminet (Mikko?) Version 2.00 50% complete Nigel Hughes, FUNdamental software From blitz-list-request Tue May 10 13:25:24 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA19619 for ; Tue, 10 May 1994 13:24:45 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 10 May 1994 13:24:18 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 10 May 1994 13:23:51 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 10 May 1994 13:20:16 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 10 May 1994 13:21:08 +0300 Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 13:21:08 +0300 X400-Originator: D.Fuller%hertfordshire.ac.uk@helios.hertfordshire.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Sender: D.Fuller@hertfordshire.ac.uk Message-ID: To: Blitz Subject: Blitz Disk Mag! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Project : Blitz Disk Mag E-Mail : csd1eh@herts.ac.uk Status : NEED ARTICLES !! any GFX/Games/Code you want reviewed and any articles you have regarding Blitz - SEND 'EM IN ;) Anyone else from Herts. on this list??? ___ ___ ___ ___ * * /|\ * | | | | | | | | | | * / | \ * * |___| | | | |___ |___| |___| / | \ | | | | | | | | | \ / | \ ------+-- | |___| |___ ___| | | | \___ /____|____\ | ___________________________________| __________|_________ \ / Mail : D.Fuller@Herts.ac.uk \________________/ /\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From blitz-list-request Wed May 11 01:34:30 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA24177 for ; Wed, 11 May 1994 01:34:21 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id IAA14499; Wed, 11 May 1994 08:38:54 +1000 Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 08:38:51 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Project To: Blitz Basic List In-Reply-To: <9405101059.AA08357@suna.lut.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO NAME: Paul Reece EMAIL: preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au PROJECT: Porting my AMOS music extension to Blitz2. STATUS: Currently in the 'planning' stage (I don't even own blitz yet!) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au Student & Network Assistant (UNIX) ds041@cleveland.freenet.edu Claremont College, Tasmania, Australia. preece@elysium.clare.tased.edu.au --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed May 11 15:02:23 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA26753 for ; Wed, 11 May 1994 15:01:13 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Wed, 11 May 1994 15:00:37 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 11 May 1994 14:59:56 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 11 May 1994 14:56:35 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 11 May 1994 14:57:09 +0300 Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 14:57:09 +0300 X400-Originator: D.Fuller%hertfordshire.ac.uk@helios.hertfordshire.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Sender: D.Fuller@hertfordshire.ac.uk Message-ID: To: Blitz Subject: Disk mag II - The revenge!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hey guys, Sorry for YET ANOTHER message re: the blitz disk mag.. But I still need articles and source (and even gfx/progs!!) I hope to have a programming section, games section, music, gfx and others things like a help section... Get all your friends to send me something nice!! - Just mail me the source etc... ALL contributors get a free issue!! Have phunn! ___ ___ ___ ___ * * /|\ * | | | | | | | | | | * / | \ * * |___| | | | |___ |___| |___| / | \ | | | | | | | | | \ / | \ ------+-- | |___| |___ ___| | | | \___ /____|____\ | ___________________________________| __________|_________ \ / Mail : D.Fuller@Herts.ac.uk \________________/ /\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From blitz-list-request Thu May 12 02:13:15 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA24084 for ; Thu, 12 May 1994 02:12:36 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id JAA20322; Thu, 12 May 1994 09:17:13 +1000 Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 09:17:13 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Guess What To: Blitz Basic List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Guess What everyone! I just put Blitz 2 On LayBy (Cheers, applause!!) :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au Student & Network Assistant (UNIX) ds041@cleveland.freenet.edu Claremont College, Tasmania, Australia. preece@elysium.clare.tased.edu.au --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu May 12 03:04:49 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA26013 for ; Thu, 12 May 1994 03:02:38 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA27599 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 12 May 1994 10:02:28 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) Message-Id: <9405120002.19251@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: DeTokenise v2.0 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz List) Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 10:02:25 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 6297 X-Status: Status: RO ; ; DeTokenise v2.0 by Son Le ; ; A program to convert blitz listings into readable text files. ; Reads blitz2 and deflibs for commands and outputs *.txt text files. ; Now uses essential routines from ViewLibs. Should work 100% ; ; Usage: ; DeTokenise file1 file2 .. ; ; nb. Blitz doesn't parse quotes ("") properly, so avoid if possible. ; ps. If this program produces '????' or wrong token names, let me know ; Macro aligna1 If ad2&1:ad2+1:EndIf End Macro Macro skiplibreg While Peek.w(ad2):ad2+4:Wend ad2+2 End Macro SetErr:NPrint"Fatal error!":End:End SetErr #memsize=16384 #maxtoken=256*256-2 ; Blitz won't allow commands$(65535)=""!? Dim commands$(#maxtoken) error=True:totalcommands.l=0 NPrint "DeTokenise v2.0 by Son Le" NPrint "" NPrint "Reading blitz2 commands.." If Exists("blitz2:blitz2") If ReadFile(0,"blitz2:blitz2") size.l=Lof(0) memblock.l=AllocMem(size,1) If memblock<>0 memuse.l=memblock ReadMem 0,memblock,size Repeat:memuse+2:Until Peek.w(memuse)=$3f3 Repeat:memuse+2:Until Peek.w(memuse)=$3f2 For i.w=1 To $d3 If i=$b6 Then i+1 ; command $80b6 doesn't exist!? If memuse&1 Then memuse+1 Repeat:memuse+2:Until Peek.w(memuse)=i memuse+2:command$=Peek$(memuse) token.l=$8000|i:commands$(token)=command$ totalcommands+1 memuse+Len(command$)+1 memuse+Len(Peek$(memuse))+1 Next CloseFile 0 FreeMem memblock,size error=False Else NPrint "Cannot allocate memory!" EndIf EndIf Else NPrint "Cannot find 'blitz2'?! Please check 'blitz2:' assignment!" EndIf If error=True Then End SetSignal_ 0,$1000 ; clear CTRL-C signal numoflibs.l=0 NPrint "Reading deflibs commands.." If Exists("blitz2:deflibs") mem.l=AllocMem(#memsize,1) If mem<>0 If ReadFile(0,"blitz2:deflibs") Repeat ReadMem 0,mem,8 ; get library size and $3f3 If Peek.l(mem+4)=$3f3 ; start of hunk? libsize.l=Peek.l(mem) If libsize>#memsize memuse.l=AllocMem(libsize,1):memfree=True If memuse=0 NPrint "Cannot allocate ",libsize," bytes of memory!" CloseFile 0:FreeMem mem,#memsize End EndIf Else memuse.l=mem:memfree=False EndIf ReadMem 0,memuse,libsize-4 ; get library libnum.l=Peek.w(memuse+32)&$ffff lib.l=(Int(libnum/2)+$80)&$ff ad2.l=memuse+28+48 If libnum<256 numoflibs+1 Print Chr$(13)+"Processing library: #",libnum," " If libnum&1 Then commandnum.w=$80 Else commandnum.w=$0 If SetSignal_(0,0)&$1000 ; check for CTRL-C If memfree Then FreeMem memuse,libsize CloseFile 0:FreeMem mem,#memsize NPrint "" NPrint "*** Break: DeTokenise" End EndIf ; following code is taken from ViewLibs with minor modifications loop2 d0.l=Peek.w(ad2) If d0>=0 commandnum+1 ad2+6:If d0=8 Then Goto addtoke If d0&15 If d0&4 ad2+4:While Peek.b(ad2)>=0:ad2+1:Wend ad2+1:!aligna1:Goto addtoke Else Goto stloop EndIf EndIf ; !skiplibreg:ad2+12:Goto loop2 ; stloop d0=Peek.w(ad2):ad2+2:If d0<0 Then Goto addtoke ad2+(d0&255):!aligna1:!skiplibreg:ad2+12:Goto stloop ; addtoke ad2+6:co$=Peek$(ad2):ad2+Len(co$)+1 ad2+Len(Peek$(ad2))+1:!aligna1 token=(lib LSL8)|commandnum:commands$(token)=co$ totalcommands+1 ; Goto loop2 EndIf EndIf Else If NOT Eof(0) If memfree Then FreeMem memuse,libsize CloseFile 0:FreeMem mem,#memsize NPrint "" NPrint "Corrupt 'deflibs' structure?!" End EndIf EndIf If memfree Then FreeMem memuse,libsize Until Eof(0) CloseFile 0:FreeMem mem,#memsize NPrint "" EndIf Else NPrint "Cannot allocate memory!" EndIf Else NPrint "Cannot find 'deflibs'?!" EndIf NPrint "Total scanned libraries : ",numoflibs NPrint "Total number of commands: ",totalcommands DosBuffLen 16384 For a=1 To NumPars If Par$(a)<>"" NPrint "" NPrint "DeTokenising '",Par$(a),"'" If Exists(Par$(a)) If ReadFile(0,Par$(a)) size=Lof(0) progmem.l=AllocMem(size,1) memuse=progmem If progmem<>0 ReadMem 0,progmem,size:CloseFile 0 If WriteFile(0,Par$(a)+".txt") FileOutput 0 Repeat char.b=Peek.b(memuse) If char=0 NPrint "" Else If (char&$80) Gosub checkprogress token=((char LSL8)|(Peek.b(memuse)&$ff))&$ffff If commands$(token)="" OR token>#maxtoken Print "????" Else Print commands$(token) EndIf Else Print Chr$(char) EndIf EndIf _next Gosub checkprogress Until memuse=progmem+size CloseFile 0:FreeMem progmem,size:DefaultOutput NPrint Chr$(13),"working ( ",size," / ",size," )" NPrint "Done!" Else NPrint "Cannot open output file ",Par$(a),".txt!" EndIf Else CloseFile 0 NPrint "Cannot allocate memory!" EndIf EndIf Else NPrint "Cannot find ",Par$(a),"!" EndIf EndIf Next End checkprogress: memuse+1:progress.l=memuse-progmem If (progress MOD 1024)=0 DefaultOutput Print Chr$(13)+"working ( ",progress," / ",size," )" FileOutput 0 EndIf Return -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.. in the most delightful way" From blitz-list-request Thu May 12 18:05:33 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA19498 for ; Thu, 12 May 1994 18:05:17 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA08092 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 12 May 1994 11:05:06 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199405121505.AA08092@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: Guess What To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 11:05:06 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: <199405121338.QAA15739@kantti.helsinki.fi> from "Ramon Macia" at May 12, 94 03:42:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 586 X-Status: Status: RO >> I just put Blitz 2 On LayBy (Cheers, applause!!) >Er... what? I didn't understood the joke. What the hell is LayBy? Forgive him, he is British. ;) In the USA we call it Lay Away, where you put something on hold and pay for it a little at a time. If this is something different, forgive me, I'm American. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Fri May 13 03:00:19 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA09800 for ; Fri, 13 May 1994 03:00:04 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA14709 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 13 May 1994 09:59:54 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) Message-Id: <9405122359.13439@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: UK Blitz Users info To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz List) Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 09:59:43 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3147 X-Status: Status: RO From: Simon Armstrong Date: 05-08-94 16:16 To: Paul Roffey Msg#: 304 Subj.: HiPaul Area: Blitz Basi Hi Paul, The UK situation has been very embarrasing for us. Benoit (the man with a frog in his throat) is no longer holding the fort. I also was some 3 months late releasing BUM6 so together we have attempted very hard to catch up with A**S's poor support reputation (aren;t we doing a good job!). Anyway, if you registered you will definately have received BUM6 before you receive this. If you sent back your Rego but no money then a letter should be in your mail box also before you read this (thank god AmigaNet is so slow!) letting you know what the situation is. ; In the letter, hmmm, I'll just dump it here... ; Acid Software 12 York Street Parnell Auckland New Zealand ph/fax +649 358 1658 29/4/94 Hi Blitz Users, Well first up I'd like to say sorry that these disks have taken so long to get to you. Second there will be another set arriving in your mail box next month. Certain string functions are still acting up in v1.80 hence the rush on to get BUM7 out and the near definitive v1.90 shipping. If you have bug reports please try and get to a fax machine or better still find a local BBS that is carrying the Blitz_Ami Ami_Net (fido) feed. In english that means you can mail me for free and I will definately reply. Also, there's not much UK talent on BUM6, of course we've had 120 games to play cos of the success of our Amiga Format competetion. Al those that did not put a sharware message on there game (and if it was one of the better ones) please send me a shareware version so I can include it on the ever increase Blitz PD disks. Oh, and restarting the last paragraph, disks only take 6 days to get here if you send them airmail so contributors for BUM7 get down to your post office now! Of course I'll refund the postage when I see you next... Oh, sadly our lovable french man is no longer with us. Sorry about the very uncool phone/backup/support service over the last few months. Anyone who is interested in providing (part time) phone support for Blitz2, running our BBS and generally keeping our UK operation cool please phone me (during your night-time which is my day-time). I'll return your call if you sound onto it. Also, if you have stuff you are wanting to publish, we are looking at various levels of marketing for Amiga software this year including very cheap CD32 software. All authors will receive 1 quid per disk sold, hopefully about 4 or 5 quality games on one disk so if your's is shit then you'll make money off the popularity of the other games on the disk. I don't see why we can't sell 3-5000 copies especially if your stuff is hot. Anyway, if you haven't got a modem get one. If you have then find out about Amiga-Net, and I'll be hearing from you. Regards, Simon Armstrong. --- Star-Net v1.02a * Origin: Phone The Bridge Baud 64-7-8430086 AMIGA! (41:647/640.0) -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.. in the most delightful way" From blitz-list-request Sat May 14 15:08:10 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA10348 for ; Sat, 14 May 1994 15:07:24 +0300 Message-Id: <199405141207.PAA10348@kantti.helsinki.fi> Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Fri, 13 May 1994 17:14:07 +0300 Via: uk.ac.northumbria; Fri, 13 May 1994 14:38:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 May 94 14:38 BST From: Keith Suddick To: BLITZ-LIST Subject: Blitz_Ami X-Status: Status: RO On May 13th, Son H. Le posted a message from Simon Armstrong to Paul Roffey, which mentioned "Blitz_Ami Ami_net" and "Amiga-Net". Can anyone tell me how to access this (these ??) ? As many alternative ways as you know of would be welcome :-) Keith Suddick - a network illiterate ! From blitz-list-request Mon May 16 15:34:04 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09195 for ; Mon, 16 May 1994 15:33:44 +0300 Message-Id: <199405161233.PAA09195@kantti.helsinki.fi> Via: uk.ac.northumbria; Mon, 16 May 1994 13:11:19 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 May 94 13:11 BST From: Keith Suddick To: BLITZ-LIST Subject: Project Report X-Status: Status: RO NAME : Keith Suddick EMAIL : Keith.Suddick@Northumbria.AC.UK PROJECT : Wriggly II DESCRIP.: Maze/puzzle game - written for Blitz competition STATUS : 80% completed, but currently in a working state From blitz-list-request Mon May 16 18:41:44 1994 Received: from tweedledee.amp.york.ac.uk (tweedledee.amp.york.ac.uk [144.32.152.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA18901 for ; Mon, 16 May 1994 18:41:30 +0300 Received: by tweedledee.amp.york.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0q34n6-00004zC; Mon, 16 May 94 16:41:16 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 16:37:28 +0100 (BST) From: DJ Linsley G7RAW Subject: UK BUM 6 out? To: Blitz Basic Mailing List In-Reply-To: <9405122359.13439@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Regarding the mail that Son Huu wrote on Fri 13th May, does it mean that BUM 6 is out in the UK now? As of yet I have not had mine, and they cashed my 15 pound cheque in mid January! Any info much appreciated. I've also had a thought for the new Acid UK. Could they not e-mail the latest BUMs to registered users so that we can get them without much effort on their part? Thanks. David Linsley - Electronics Student, York England Internet: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk Amateur Radio: G7RAW@GB7NCL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dragon 64:DosPlus4.9c & OS9 L1 V2 Amiga 1200:Blitz Basic 2 & Amicom 2 "Dragon Data are not going into receivership." Brain Moore May 1984 From blitz-list-request Mon May 16 19:25:28 1994 Received: from access2.digex.net (access2.digex.net [164.109.10.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA20926 for ; Mon, 16 May 1994 19:25:15 +0300 Received: by access2.digex.net id AA03466 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Mon, 16 May 1994 12:25:02 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199405161625.AA03466@access2.digex.net> Subject: Re: UK BUM 6 out? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 12:25:00 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: from "DJ Linsley G7RAW" at May 16, 94 04:37:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 671 X-Status: Status: RO >I've also had a thought for the new Acid UK. Could they not e-mail the >latest BUMs to registered users so that we can get them without much >effort on their part? None of them have access to the Internet at this time AFAIK. They could easily do it, but probably won't because then the BUM (which is usually an actual printed 'mag') could easily be sent to everyone who hasn't subscribed. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue May 17 03:44:12 1994 Received: from inca.gate.net (inca.gate.net [198.80.2.35]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA09460 for ; Tue, 17 May 1994 03:42:54 +0300 Received: by inca.gate.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #40) id m0q3DIP-0004MNC; Mon, 16 May 94 20:46 EDT Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 20:45:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Scott Subject: newbie To: blitzlist Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO sorry to send this right to the list, I couldn't find the sub addr please subscribe this character - nwpd@connected.com its john from North West public Domain in WA, USA. thanks all! From blitz-list-request Tue May 17 15:03:59 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA10955 for ; Tue, 17 May 1994 15:03:09 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA01095 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 17 May 1994 21:37:36 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) Message-Id: <9405171137.12530@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: NeilsLibs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitz-list) Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 21:37:30 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 26755 X-Status: Status: RO Just two quick libraries. CIATrackerLib which allows BB2 to play NT/ST and PT(!) modules correctly. Also an update to AmigaSupportLib which new include a few new commands (like BLoad and BSave). Note: for ciaTrackerLib, remember to compile with debugger OFF or else nothing plays (at least for me they didn't). I'll bugger the author when I get in contact with him. 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M9-.J3_VF_DWKGOCV3CK[T?Z=Z.2FG_3^"L+??>0Q:+F^1(>GP`Z^#O^COERZE !`-.J] `` end size 18676 -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could..." From blitz-list-request Tue May 17 14:42:29 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA09790 for ; Tue, 17 May 1994 14:42:04 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA01118 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 17 May 1994 21:41:46 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) Message-Id: <9405171141.12667@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: Projects To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitz-list) Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 21:41:40 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Paul Reece" at May 17, 94 08:39:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 932 X-Status: Status: RO > On Mon, 16 May 1994, Peter Sandberg wrote: > > Hi there! > > > > With twelve projects reported on this list it seems that we are missing out > > on some programmers since Acid received 120 entries in their programming > > competition.(anyone knows how it turned out?). > > > > And now a question. Is there no way to connect this list or any other kind of > > e-mail to Aminet and by doing so getting in touch with Acid? > If Acid are on Fidonet at all, you can send email from Internet to fidonet > and vice versa... If anyone is interested, I can dig up the addressing > information BUT it is sometimes quite slow sending this way... That's the problem really. Acid is not on the Fidonet. I think Simon just logs onto a BBS and reads the echo. I'll see what I can dig up though. -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could..." From blitz-list-request Wed May 18 12:11:51 1994 Received: from zephyr.cs.vu.nl (zephyr.cs.vu.nl [130.37.16.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA03864 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 12:11:02 +0300 Received: from brik.cs.vu.nl by zephyr.cs.vu.nl id aa14577; 18 May 94 11:11 MET DST Received: from jol44.cs.vu.nl by brik.cs.vu.nl id aa27165; 18 May 94 11:10 MET DST Date: Wed, 18 May 94 11:10:41 MET DST From: Arthur To: Blitz_Basic_II Subject: libs Message-ID: <9405181110.aa03961@jol44.cs.vu.nl> X-Status: Status: RO Hi , does someone have the old user-quide I ask this because I would like to know how to build libs into Blitz2 !? BUM2 says look in the USER guide Chapter5 to read things about building new libraries into blitz2.. But in my User-guide there's nothing about libaries at all... Please tell me something about building new libs into blitz2 I don't know if you need utils for it , but I only have MakeDefLibs and fdconv HELP ! From blitz-list-request Wed May 18 14:21:08 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA10694 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 14:20:04 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA16680 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 18 May 1994 21:19:53 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son H. Le) Message-Id: <9405181119.10379@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: Reading volume name To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitz-list) Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 21:19:49 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <22200.769257936@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> from "Nigel Hughes" at May 18, 94 11:45:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1611 X-Status: Status: RO > > ARRRGGGHHHH!!! This almost drove me crazy!! (; > No pun intended, I hope 8) No. (; > Thanks man, I was begining to think I was the only one on this list that > tries to do things that are not listed in the manuals! Yeah, with the entire list, sometimes you feel like you're the only one posting. I know, coz no one has answered a question I posted long ago. *sigh* > > Firstly, the DosList should contain a C union of three different > > structures (ie. DosListUnion should be either dol_Handler, dol_Volume or > > dol_AssignList, not all three!) The .dt_Volume newtype provides a > > workaround. > OK I am being stupid. No comment. (; It's a bug in the structure. Guess I better inform Acid Software. > > Secondly, a BSTR is a BPTR with the first byte containing string length. > > To convert a BPTR to a normal Amiga pointer you must multiply it by 4. > > ie. APTR = BPTR << 2 > Yeah, I did try that and still got crap, must have been doing something > wrong, again 8) > Ho hum. A combination of error by Acid and this, had me wondering too. Finally realised the mistake after about an hour of looking at the C includes and staring at your program. > > Thirdly, you've got a weird way of accessing newtype structures. (; > Yep, but I types this in from memory when I got here, as I forgot my source > 8) At least that's what you claim. (; > > Okay, here is the working version. > You're a champ. You're too kind, and so right! (; Bye! Son Le -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could..." From blitz-list-request Wed May 18 14:23:34 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA10850 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 14:23:07 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA16703 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 18 May 1994 21:22:55 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son H. Le) Message-Id: <9405181122.10459@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: libs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitz-list) Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 21:22:53 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9405181110.aa03961@jol44.cs.vu.nl> from "Arthur" at May 18, 94 11:10:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 869 X-Status: Status: RO > Hi , does someone have the old user-quide > I ask this because I would like to know how to build > libs into Blitz2 !? > BUM2 says look in the USER guide Chapter5 to read things > about building new libraries into blitz2.. > But in my User-guide there's nothing about libaries at all... > Please tell me something about building new libs into blitz2 > I don't know if you need utils for it , but I only have > MakeDefLibs and fdconv > HELP ! It depends on what kind of libs you're trying to add to Blitz2. Is it one you're going to write, eg. ElmoreLib or converting an existing amiga library (eg. triton.library). If the latter than use fdconv on and *.fd files you find with the library and then use MakeDefLibs. -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could..." From blitz-list-request Wed May 18 14:26:27 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA10942 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 14:25:30 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA16718 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 18 May 1994 21:25:15 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son H. Le) Message-Id: <9405181125.10561@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: Keyboard bug To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitz-list) Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 21:25:13 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <"12963 Tue May 17 10:47:09 1994"@mhs-relay.ac.uk> from "Martin 'StarWoids' Kift" at May 17, 94 01:45:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 819 X-Status: Status: RO > By now, most people will know about the keyboard interupt bug which > badly affects blitz mode. It causes the rawstatus command to return > endless keyboard key values, even when the keys are not pressed. I'm using rawstatus in blitzmode in one of my games. No problems. How about some sample source? > After a couple of weeks, I've been unable to solve it. Does anybody > out there (not you Nigel) know how to solve it, or failing that, know > how to reduce the problem to a minimum. > I'd love to talk to Simon about it (and other bugs), since its > holding up the release of my game. Send me a compose message and I'll post it to Blitz Echo for ya. Bye! Son Le -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could..." From blitz-list-request Wed May 18 15:33:34 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA14686 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 15:33:13 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA17285 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 18 May 1994 22:30:31 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son H. Le) Message-Id: <9405181230.12551@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: libs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitz-list) Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 22:30:22 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9405181220.12204@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> from "Ramon Macia" at May 18, 94 02:24:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1314 X-Status: Status: RO > Hi, Son! > > It depends on what kind of libs you're trying to add to Blitz2. Is it one > > you're going to write, eg. ElmoreLib or converting an existing amiga library > > (eg. triton.library). If the latter than use fdconv on and *.fd files you > > find with the library and then use MakeDefLibs. > I tried this method to convert the MED libraries coming with OctaMed. > When I try to use a command from this library, it becomes a MOVE or > MOMEM instruction when I press RETURN! Do you know where's the problem? > I'm trying to use this library because the ones coming with Blitz seem > to have problems playing some modules. If you want to hear one, I can > email it to you for you to test it. Have you also had problems playing > MEDs? The MOVE and MOVEM problem is because of a token clash. Use a different library number, one that isn't being used (look in libnums.bb?) and enter that when you are asked for lib number. I haven't really tried the MED commands so I'm not sure. I did hear problems about them, but can't remember what. Do you have problems with ALL med modules or just some? I've got some med modules myself so might give it a go. Bye! Son Le -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could..." From blitz-list-request Thu May 19 03:39:20 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA15558 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 03:38:47 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA23818 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 10:38:35 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son H. Le) Message-Id: <9405190038.7072@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: libs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitz-list) Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 10:38:34 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <22F99B02B95@ms1.hsbos.nl> from "Jurgen Valks" at May 18, 94 04:07:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2028 X-Status: Status: RO > > It depends on what kind of libs you're trying to add to Blitz2. Is it one > > you're going to write, eg. ElmoreLib or converting an existing amiga library > > (eg. triton.library). > > If the latter than use fdconv on any *.fd files you > > find with the library and then use MakeDefLibs. > Please explain (with a example perhaps?) Well, let's take the triton.library example which I've converted myself. In the triton10.lha archive, in the Programmer/FD directory there is a triton_lib.fd file. In this file is the relative offset of the routines in the library. To use the library, you need to convert this to an *.library1 Blitz lib file. This is automatically done by the supplied program fdconv. So you install the library in your LIBS: directory, run 'fdconv triton.library' and when prompt for a libnum, supply one that is unused (check in libnum.bb). FDConv will automatically write a file (in this case 'triton.library1' - if the library is big enough a second 'triton.library2') to your blitzlibs:amigalibs directory. Now you can do a RELOAD ALL LIBS (which makes blitz2 scan all your blitzlibs: directories and load the libs) or make a permanent quicker file with MakeDefLibs. You should be about to call library commands now (with trailing '_' as usual) and the command will be tokenised. All you need to do is convert the Programmer/include/libraries/triton.h header program and you can fully use the library with is constants and structures. There's a program on the examples disk, converth.bb(?) that helps you convert the header file to a blitz2 macro file, with which you need to convert to a *.res or include with your program. Please note, not all libraries can be converted to work with blitz2. One such example is ReqTools library, which uses register A3-A5(?) which blitz can't cope with as it clashs with blitz registers, I think. Good luck! Son Le -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could..." From blitz-list-request Mon May 23 10:00:43 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA01966 for ; Mon, 23 May 1994 09:59:03 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA22890 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 23 May 1994 16:58:49 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son H. Le) Message-Id: <9405230658.3803@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: NeilsLibs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitz-list) Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 16:58:48 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <"5398 Fri May 20 08:44:50 1994"@mhs-relay.ac.uk> from "Martin Kift" at May 20, 94 11:44:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 751 X-Status: Status: RO > Yesterday, I tested the new NeilsLibs posted here a couple of days > ago, principally to try out the new Protracker support. However, I > could not get the routines to play any of the protracker modules I > have in my collection. They seem to load in okay, but the play > routine doesn't do anything, and after calling the play routine, my > machine seems to be pretty unstable (things crashing etc). Did you compile the program with debugger OFF? > Has anybody got this to work? If so, could you tell me how, and > whether it works with a large number of pt modules in your > experience. Thanks. -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could..." From blitz-list-request Mon May 23 10:02:20 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA02250 for ; Mon, 23 May 1994 10:02:03 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AB23013 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 23 May 1994 17:01:50 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son H. Le) Message-Id: <9405230701.4228@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: Undocumented commands To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitz-list) Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 17:01:18 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199405201130.OAA20453@kantti.helsinki.fi> from "Ramon Macia" at May 20, 94 01:35:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 949 X-Status: Status: RO > Hi all! > I have been taking a look at Blitz 'internals' and found a couple of > undocumented commands. They seem to be tests or unfinished commands. > Some of them don't show their pars pressing the HELP key. I haven't > tested any of them. Anyway, if you find out something about them, > post it. > Here they are: > CludgeMedModule or CludgeMedMod (or both, I can't remember) > CludgeBitmap > BlitzQualifier > HandleRawKey > SetEventFilter > CloseWindow CloseWindow Window# - same as Free Window... added for convenience. > EventQualifier > AllocFill > cr_vbr (?????) > SetBLWait > WBExtViewMode That's all I know. (; > That's all folks! (This reminds me of something) :-) > PS. I found an error which said something like "Cycles must be in order, > you silly sausage!". Curious, isn't it? :-D -- Son H. Le email: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au "Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could..." From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 10:28:12 1994 Received: from zephyr.cs.vu.nl (zephyr.cs.vu.nl [130.37.16.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA02562 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 10:27:34 +0300 Received: from galjoen.cs.vu.nl by zephyr.cs.vu.nl id aa28287; 26 May 94 9:27 MET DST Date: Thu, 26 May 94 9:27:17 MET DST From: Arthur To: Blitz_Basic_II Subject: bum UK Message-ID: <9405260927.aa01440@galjoen.cs.vu.nl> X-Status: Status: RO Hi , Is there anyone who knows if bum UK is dead ,or moved to another place ??? 'cause I send my cheque (15 Pounds) about 5 weeks ago , but I still haven't received any bum's yet and even my money hasn't been credited from my account yet ... What's happening there in the UK ??? That's all folks... Arthur From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 14:36:13 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA17699 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:35:51 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA24813 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 26 May 1994 07:35:34 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199405261135.AA24813@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: BPR #3 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 07:35:34 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: from "Paul Reece" at May 26, 94 10:19:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 634 X-Status: Status: RO >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> NAME : Paul Reece >> EMAIL : preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au >> PROJECT : Porting my AMOS music extension to Blitz2. >> STATUS : Work on it will start tomorrow!! Didn't Benjamin Franklin say "Today never leaves and tomorrow never comes."?? ;) Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net (My dinosaur is extinct) From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 14:42:06 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA18077 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:41:45 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA25014 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 26 May 1994 07:41:32 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199405261141.AA25014@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: BUM6 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 07:41:31 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: <94052612111361@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> from "Steve" at May 26, 94 12:11:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 387 X-Status: Status: RO >When did you get BUM6? My BlitzNumber is in the first 150 and am >still waiting. BlitzNumber? What is that? Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 14:53:29 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA18623 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:53:04 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA25456 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 26 May 1994 07:52:51 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199405261152.AA25456@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: Blitz Libraries To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 07:52:50 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: <94052612471107@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> from "sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk" at May 26, 94 12:47:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 437 X-Status: Status: RO >The game uses PAL screens at the moment! (256 pixels tall). So you might >have a few problems with it............. No problems. I can run PAL only programs. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 8 05:06:12 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA09666 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 05:06:03 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id MAA11470; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:10:11 +1000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:10:10 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Aminet To: Blitz Basic List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Why don't we all get together and make a proposal to the Aminet sysadmins (umueller@ftp.wust.edu) to have the following added: /pub/aminet/dev/blitz ??? - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 8 07:24:03 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA13607 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 07:23:53 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id OAA11812; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:28:13 +1000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:28:09 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: GADTOOLS SLIDERS To: Blitz Basic List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Is there any way that I can read the level of a gadtools slider in my program? The command getgtattrs exists, but isn`t documented and doesn't work anyway! HELP! - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 9 17:46:35 1994 Received: from zephyr.cs.vu.nl (zephyr.cs.vu.nl [130.37.16.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA16428 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 17:44:44 +0300 Received: from bol.cs.vu.nl by zephyr.cs.vu.nl id aa17399; 9 Jun 94 16:44 MET DST Received: from jol08.cs.vu.nl by bol.cs.vu.nl id aa13608; 9 Jun 94 16:44 MET DST Date: Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:44:14 MET DST From: Arthur To: Blitz_Basic_II Subject: AF/blitz competition Message-ID: <9406091644.aa00492@jol08.cs.vu.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi , Does anyone know something about the results of the Blitz Basic Compertition from Amiga Format (I mean when do we get the results??) That's all, \|||/ (@ @) -------------o00-( )-00o------------- Arthur A. van de Woestijne e-mail: aavande@cs.vu.nl From blitz-list-request Fri Jun 10 04:18:59 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA08618 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:18:29 +0300 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:18:11 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA27180 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 11:13:07 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA29545 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 11:13:03 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199406100113.LAA29545@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: RI Blitz Libs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 11:13:02 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 900 X-Status: Status: RO G'day all, Yesterday, I got from FTP the RIBlitzLibs. When going to install them, it said in the readme file, that you can either copy the *.objs to the userlibs dir, or use makedeflibs. Seeing as I don't have makedeflibs (I gather this is on BUM6 which I still haven;t got), I went to do the former, but all that was included in the archive was the *.lib files. If I try to do a reload all libs with these, i get an out of mem error, even though I have 2meg chip and 512k fast. Can someone (preferably RI), please upload the *.obj files?? Thanks in advance Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri Jun 10 15:02:11 1994 Received: from zephyr.cs.vu.nl (zephyr.cs.vu.nl [130.37.16.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA05065 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 15:02:01 +0300 Received: from bol.cs.vu.nl by zephyr.cs.vu.nl id aa23609; 10 Jun 94 14:01 MET DST Received: from jol04.cs.vu.nl by bol.cs.vu.nl id aa14714; 10 Jun 94 14:01 MET DST Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 14:01:29 MET DST From: Arthur To: Blitz_Basic_II Subject: copper tricks Message-ID: <9406101401.aa26672@jol04.cs.vu.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi , Can someone please explain the following code to me ? co$=mki$(#bpl1mod)+mki$(-127) co$+mki$(#bpl2mod)+mki$(-127) OwnCopList(co$,100) <= I cann't remember the instruction name exactly,but it's the instruction that you can insert your own copperlist... I saw this in BUM6 and they achieved a mirror effect with it. I'm just wondering what #bpl1mod & #bpl2mod stands for (I think some hardware registers , but how to they work ???) Can you achieve other effects with these two registers (i.e vertical mirror tricks or something ?) Please explain these copper/blitter hardware tricks to me ! Bey for now, \|||/ (@ @) -------------o00-( )-00o------------- Arthur A. van de Woestijne e-mail: aavande@cs.vu.nl From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 14 01:42:11 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA11082 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 01:41:51 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id IAA23049; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 08:45:43 +1000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 08:45:40 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Addition of a Blitz Basic 2 area. (fwd) To: Blitz Basic List , Amos List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Have a peek at this... What a bummer.... - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 20:43:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Urban Mueller To: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Addition of a Blitz Basic 2 area. > > > Is it possible to add an area for Blitz Basic2 programs?? > > ie. /pub/aminet/dev/blitz > > Thanks, in anticipation.. I just renamed dev/amos to dev/basic, use that one. We'd like to keep the number of dirs low. -Urban From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 14 21:35:46 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA29793 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:34:34 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:33:27 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:26:27 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:23:41 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:28:36 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 22:28:35 +0300 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 22:28:35 +0300 X400-Originator: djl102%unix.york.ac.uk@leeman.york.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Message-ID: To: Blitz Basic Mailing List Subject: BUM6 !!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hurrah! At last, I got my BUM6 ! After so much wait since BUM 5 (End of December), I phoned the new company in Doncaster on Thursday, and asked them when mine would be coming, and after checking my address they sent it out and it arrived yesterday! Apparantly, the new folks had to enter all the info about who had subscribed to BUM becasue they old got the old applications from that Benoit bloke - no database files and so they were waiting to check people's addresses with them - so if you haven't got yours yet then give them a ring (number in current Amiga Format). Incidentally, the included letter says that BUM 7 will come next month - but they said that about BUM 6 as well... Regards, David Linsley - Electronics Student, York England Internet: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk Amateur Radio: G7RAW@GB7NCL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dragon 64:DosPlus4.9c & DosDream Amiga 1200:Blitz Basic 2 & Amicom 2 "He gets the ball, he scores a goal, Andy Andy Cole" From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 14 21:35:48 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA29795 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:34:35 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:33:32 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:29:01 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:25:58 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:30:57 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 22:30:56 +0300 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 22:30:56 +0300 X400-Originator: djl102%unix.york.ac.uk@leeman.york.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Message-ID: To: Blitz Basic Mailing List Subject: ASL Requester Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Does anybody else have probs with the asl file requester? On my 2M CHip and 4Meg Fast A1200 it will sporadically crash for no apparent reason (same with just 2meg chip). This happens with both Bum 5 and 6 version of the library - infact the only way to get ASL working is to use the example code included with the Blitz package, which calls it directly from ROM! Any help will be most appreciated. Thanks. Regards, David Linsley - Electronics Student, York England Internet: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk Amateur Radio: G7RAW@GB7NCL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dragon 64:DosPlus4.9c & DosDream Amiga 1200:Blitz Basic 2 & Amicom 2 "He gets the ball, he scores a goal, Andy Andy Cole" From blitz-list-request Fri Jun 17 04:17:31 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA13797 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 04:15:35 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 04:15:08 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 04:13:09 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 04:10:12 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 04:15:29 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 05:15:28 +0300 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 05:15:28 +0300 X400-Originator: djl102%unix.york.ac.uk@leeman.york.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Message-ID: To: Blitz Basic Mailing List Subject: Tool Type Libraries Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO I have got Mark Tiffany's TootType routines, but am I right in that I thought I saw that the new RIBLITZ libraries had tooltype support? The docs don't seem to think so - I think.. Anyway, Blitz seems to be getting better by the day - but lets hope some of the bugs can be eradicated from the old routines as well! Regards, David Linsley - Electronics Student, York England Internet: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk Amateur Radio: G7RAW@GB7NCL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dragon 64:DosPlus4.9c & DosDream Amiga 1200:Blitz Basic 2 & Amicom 2 "He gets the ball, he scores a goal, Andy Andy Cole" From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 21 12:21:25 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA16328 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:19:16 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:18:53 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:17:51 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:00:41 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:04:38 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:04:37 +0300 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:04:37 +0300 X400-Originator: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Message-ID: To: Blitz Basic Mailing List Subject: Clown Game Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Why is everyone slagging this game off? The gfx and sfx were not upto much, but at least the gameplay was very addictive - reminds me of a game I have for my Dragon, and also Boffin on the BBC/Electron. Regards, David Linsley - Electronics Student, York England Internet: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk Amateur Radio: G7RAW@GB7NCL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dragon 64:DosPlus4.9c & DosDream Amiga 1200:6M, 64M HD & Blitz2 "He gets the ball, he scores a goal, Andy Andy Cole" From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 21 12:21:25 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA16332 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:19:17 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:18:54 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:18:01 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:10:24 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:16:10 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:16:09 +0300 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:16:09 +0300 X400-Originator: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Message-ID: To: Blitz Basic Mailing List Subject: ToolTypes Library Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Steve, thanks for uploading these to Aminet so quickly. With the end of term for most people approaching (inc me) then the upload of such a useful command set is a godsend! I will probably be using it in my current project - a GUI for EPU the PD disk-expander. This is about 70% finished if anyone wants to include it on the project update list (must take a note of the format of that sometime!) To all on the list - have a good summer and keep on Blitzing! To Mark Tiffany: Can you still send me your ASL functions please? I will be going home on Thursday night and won't be back till October! Regards, David Linsley - Electronics Student, York England Internet: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk Amateur Radio: G7RAW@GB7NCL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dragon 64:DosPlus4.9c & DosDream Amiga 1200:6M, 64M HD & Blitz2 "He gets the ball, he scores a goal, Andy Andy Cole" From rscott@inca.gate.net Tue Jun 21 18:37:27 1994 Received: from inca.gate.net (inca.gate.net [198.80.2.35]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA04294 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 18:37:24 +0300 Received: (from rscott@localhost) by inca.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA67291; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:37:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:35:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Scott Subject: unsubscribe rscott@gate.net To: blitzlist Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO UNSUBSCRIBE rscott@gate.net I don't have blitz, just curious, but the mail is getting annoying with those folks whos headers take an entire page or more. I get too much mail already. Thanks for the info, though! Ryan, PLAYFIELD! From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 22 01:37:38 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA19874 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 1994 01:37:15 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA03976 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 1994 08:41:27 +1000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 08:41:25 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Specifically to Stuart Maclean! To: Blitz Basic List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO DO NOT SEND FILES TO THE LIST!!! MY SYSTEM CHUCKED A HERNIA LAST NIGHT WHEN IT RECIEVED YOUR FILES!! IF YOU NEED TO SEND LARGE FILES, AT LEAST SPLIT THEM UP - ONLY MAIL THEM TO THE PEOPLE THAT WANT THEM!! (I already had them!) You should NOT send files bigger than say, 40k to the list!! (Is that right Mikko??) - PAUL! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 22 04:22:18 1994 Received: from inca.gate.net (inca.gate.net [198.80.2.35]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA23583 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 1994 04:21:49 +0300 Received: (from rscott@localhost) by inca.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA94840; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:21:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:20:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Scott Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE To: blitzlist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO I've tried to unsubscribe, sorry to mail to the list, but nothing else has worked yet. unsubscribe me right now thanks From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 22 07:49:08 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA29205 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 1994 07:48:35 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA20360 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 1994 14:48:03 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id OAA12178 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 22 Jun 1994 14:48:01 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199406220448.OAA12178@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: RIBlitzLibs3.1 - where?? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 14:48:00 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 554 X-Status: Status: RO G'day all, Just a quick message, where can I get the RIBlitzLibs3.1.lha archive?? Thanks in advance, Dave PS. With the list, if you do a "reply" from you mailing prog, does it send to the list, or to the original author?? ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 22 16:08:34 1994 Received: from inca.gate.net (inca.gate.net [198.80.2.35]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA19783 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 1994 16:08:18 +0300 Received: (from rscott@localhost) by inca.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA83954; Wed, 22 Jun 1994 09:07:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 09:07:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Scott Subject: Re: your mail (fwd) To: blitzlist , AMOS LIST SEND Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 03:39:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Urban Mueller To: Ryan Scott Subject: Re: your mail > > concerning the compilation of blitz and AMOS directories together, I > would like to express my disapproval. Thank you for providing the site, > indeed, but I would like these 2 areas to remain separate! Its confusing > to put them together. Blitz is about as similar to AMOS as ML to C. > They don't belong together. > > Thanks for your time. No need to reply. I do it anyway. I know they are different, but dev/basic had to be created anyway for Biltzbasic, so I included amos. Amos stuff could be found easily by searching basic/INDEX. However many people seemed to have liked the amos dir, and Amiga Shopper recently cited that directory, so I'm crawling back. There's gonna be amos/ and basic/. > Ryan Scott > Editor, PLAYFIELD! AMOS MAGAZINE Interesting, electronic or paper mag? Anything you could contribute? :) -Urban From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 23 00:20:18 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA08321 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 00:20:08 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 00:19:46 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 00:19:35 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 00:16:00 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 00:21:59 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 01:21:58 +0300 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 01:21:58 +0300 X400-Originator: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Message-ID: To: Blitz Basic Mailing List Subject: Re: Clown Game (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hello all | | Why is everyone slagging this game off? The gfx and sfx were not upto | much, but at least the gameplay was very addictive - reminds me of a game | I have for my Dragon, and also Boffin on the BBC/Electron. | | Regards, | David Linsley - Electronics Student, York England | Internet: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk Amateur Radio: G7RAW@GB7NCL | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dragon 64:DosPlus4.9c & DosDream Amiga 1200:6M, 64M HD & Blitz2 | "He gets the ball, he scores a goal, Andy Andy Cole" | | Yeah! I liked it, and so did my fiance! I think it probably won on gameplay rather than state-of-the-art GFX and SFX. Lighten up, people. It's only a game... BBFN Ali Bish (-: From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 23 04:23:25 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au ([147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA15527 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 04:23:00 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA12085 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 11:27:13 +1000 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 11:27:13 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: /dev/amos returns! (fwd) To: Blitz Basic List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Here's some GOOD news.. - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 17:27:52 -0500 From: Andy Church To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: /dev/amos returns! >Subject: Re: /dev/basic vs. /dev/(amos|blitz|etc.) >From: Urban Mueller (umueller@wuarchive.wustl.edu) >To: achurch@goober.mbhs.edu (Andy Church) >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 03:44:45 -0500 (CDT) > >I got much feedback on this one, and changed back to dev/amos. dev/basic >will be for biltz basic. > > -Urban We won! :-) Just thought I'd let you all know... --Andy Church From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 23 11:05:37 1994 Received: from helios.herts.ac.uk (helios.herts.ac.uk [146.97.32.61]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA28730; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 11:05:23 +0300 Received: from herts.ac.uk by helios.herts.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <06323-0@helios.herts.ac.uk>; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 08:53:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 08:52:54 +0100 (BST) From: Matt Funnell Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE To: Blitz , BR In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO UNSUBSCRIBE From blitz-list-request Fri Jun 24 18:36:25 1994 Received: from helios.herts.ac.uk (helios.herts.ac.uk [146.97.32.61]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA02422 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:35:44 +0300 Received: from herts.ac.uk by helios.herts.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <26292-0@helios.herts.ac.uk>; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:31:35 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:30:21 +0100 (BST) From: Fuller Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE ME To: Blitz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Well ladz, Looks like my account will be deleted in about 1 month. Don't think I'll be back in September due to BAD marks :'( Cheerz for all the good comments (and the 2 MB filez!!!!) Have a good life on the list... UNSUBSCRIBE ME :'( Pulsar... ___ ___ ___ ___ * * /|\ * | | | | | | | | | | * / | \ * * |___| | | | |___ |___| |___| / | \ | | | | | | | | | \ / | \ ------+-- | |___| |___ ___| | | | \___ /____|____\ | ___________________________________| __________|_________ \ / Mail : D.Fuller@Herts.ac.uk \________________/ /\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From blitz-list-request Sat Jun 25 03:26:00 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA17465 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 03:25:17 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA12363 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 10:24:58 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id KAA03973 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 10:24:58 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199406250024.KAA03973@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Re: PowerPACKING To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 10:24:57 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Ott M. Aaloe" at Jun 22, 94 12:43:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1942 X-Status: Status: RO > Hi all! > I badly need some decopression routines so I just wondered is there > any lib extensions for blitz which contains some commands to unpack > powerpacked data files - something like unpack (filename$,from adr,to > adr). Thanx! > O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) Well you may like to try the undocumented commands "implode" and "Deplode". there syntax is as follows: " IMPLODE: Error/crunched length = Implode (Buffer Address, Data Length) DEPLODE: Success(Buffer Address) The Implode command requires an address in memory to start its compressions from, and the length of the data you want to pack. The screen colours will flash during the compression process to let you know it's working. If the compression was successful, you'll be returned the new length of the imploded data, otherwise an error code. The Deplode command only requires the address in memory that your compressed data is located at, and it will set to work uncompressing it. The problem is, the Deplode will expand the data out to its original length regardless of your buffersize, so it is vital that you allocate enough memory to hold the uncompressed data length, not just the size of the compresses data. Most of the time this won;t be a problem, since it will have been you that created the packed file. Luckily, the compressed data stores the expanded length of the data in the second longword of the file, so it's possible to read this if you are unsure of the uncompressed data's length. " The above info, was taken from The Australian Commodore and Amiga Review, May edition. Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sun Jun 26 00:45:22 1994 Received: from marlin.ssnet.com (ssnet.com [165.113.8.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA18057 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 00:45:12 +0300 Received: by marlin.ssnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01627; Sat, 25 Jun 94 17:41:04 EDT Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 17:41:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Wallace To: blitz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO does bb run under 1.3 as well as 3.0? and can I try the add-on libraries from Aminet with the demo version? From blitz-list-request Sun Jun 26 14:34:33 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA05759 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 14:34:19 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA24202 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Sun, 26 Jun 1994 07:34:02 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199406261134.AA24202@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: your mail To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 07:34:01 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: from "Dave Wallace" at Jun 25, 94 02:17:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 441 X-Status: Status: RO >Also, about what price can I expect to pay for BB2? I called a couple >places here in the US and they do not carry it. $89 + S&H from safe Harbor (or so I read). Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 30 01:41:36 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA06200 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 01:40:29 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA04137 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 08:44:37 +1000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 08:44:36 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: EML Player.. To: Blitz Basic List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Attached to this message, is a program written using my EML libraries for Blitz2.. 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M=)OYT<.=#;G!9S@\\X:6^<)PYP"N<, .<()YP'><';G TYPG;G!238#8_\4OH&CC[S]\ M$(='B_D>(;HN"Y_N5=IB261M&>+/%XW-=ACWOF1CH AE QS%F]'A=56I@$/?8\^^^5ACZF[7_6[PM^&IQJW@P end From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 30 01:57:22 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA06604 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 01:56:51 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA04190 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:01:03 +1000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:01:02 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Opening Intuition Screens... To: Blitz Basic List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO I have a question.... How can you open an intuition screen without it popping to the front as soon as you open it?? It makes an utter pain out of loading a picture in the background etc.. Can the screen be made invisible automatically so you can then display it after you have got it ready?? Thanks all, in advance! - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 1 17:10:42 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA24583 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 1994 17:09:13 +0300 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA03412 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Fri, 1 Jul 1994 10:08:49 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199407011408.AA03412@access3.digex.net> Subject: Re: 8SVX To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 10:08:49 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: <94070112342180@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> from "Steve" at Jul 1, 94 12:34:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 336 X-Status: Status: RO > Does anyone have ACID US telephone number? (608)257-9057 Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 5 16:47:06 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA01330 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:46:38 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Tue, 5 Jul 1994 05:06:41 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA25400 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 12:09:48 +1000 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 12:09:44 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: URGENTLY REQUIRED! To: Blitz Basic List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Could someone with an A1200 PLEASE send me the power rating details off the bottom of their power supply?? eg. 5volts, 100mA etc.. I NEED this, because I think i've got the wrong one.. Thanks in anticipation! - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 5 16:47:55 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA01393 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:47:26 +0300 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Tue, 5 Jul 1994 08:43:35 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA10672 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:29:32 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA02887 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:29:29 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199407050529.PAA02887@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: ScreenPens (was Re: Mapeditor) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:29:29 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9407041448.AA00779@it038.dcs.qmw.ac.uk> from "spi@dcs.qmw.ac.uk" at Jul 4, 94 03:48:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 860 X-Status: Status: RO > Also, one other point. Does anyone have a problem using the ScreenPens command?? > I`ve got a few programs that use it, but will not compile (give Syntax Error) > I use the command (as stated in the Manual) like so: > ScreenPens 0,3,2,1,1,1 > but it always gives a comiler Syntax error. > Steven Innell > E-mail : spi@dcs.qmw.ac.uk It looks like you've missed out a parameter. According to the online help, you need the following: ScreenPens Text,Shine,Shadow,Fill,FillText,Background,Highlight Hope that helps, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 6 01:32:21 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA00822 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 01:31:47 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA28441 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 08:35:50 +1000 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 08:35:50 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Amiga Format Blitz Compo To: Blitz Basic List In-Reply-To: <9407051108.AA02250@gfl.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 5 Jul 1994, Peter Sandberg wrote: > Hi there! > > I live in Sweden and I've just received the july issue of AF. I think that it's > ridiculous how they have handled the competition. In the paper there is only a couple > of lines stating the winners names. No screenshots or anything. I think that if they > (Acid) wanted more people to buy BB2 then they should have shown several of the > best entries. If people see what can be done with this brilliant language I'm sure > they will also buy it. > > When I spoke to AF about the competition a couple of months ago they > said that they had received some very good stuff. It's a shame that no one outside the small(?) > bb2 community will ever see them. Don't worry.... You're not missing much.. The game that one is CRAP! Remember the old Circus game on the Atari/Spectrum etc?? It's a conversion of that.. (It's not even a good one..) - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 6 04:00:28 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA03230 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 03:59:55 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id MAA19298; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:58:10 +1200 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:56:52 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: New Address To: blitz list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hello, I'm Simon Armstrong from Acid Software, I just got a new account sorted out so if you can let me know what is happening and where I'll probably be able to offer some support and news for wired Blitz Users. Bye Bye From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 03:00:53 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA23219 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 03:00:10 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA00569 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 09:59:48 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id JAA13145 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 09:59:47 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199407062359.JAA13145@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: VS-Includes.lha - Where is the *.res file???? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 09:59:46 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 654 X-Status: Status: RO G'day all, Just a quick query, where can I find the vs.res file (or whatever its called), from the VS-Includes.lha file I ftp'd the other day. It doesn't seem to be in the archive, so consequently, the progs won't work without it (well I gather they won't, I haven't actually tried to compile them). Thanks in advance, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 12:44:17 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA12743 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:43:57 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id VAA03365; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 21:42:21 +1200 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 21:40:07 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software To: blitz list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hi everyone, I'm not promissing anything regarding support on this wire, however I suppose my mail box will be a focus for those wanting to air their differences, however please, no private mail except if it involves money or drugs... Simon From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 19:38:25 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA16408 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 19:38:05 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA26525 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:37:37 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199407111637.AA26525@access1.digex.net> Subject: Starwoids To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:37:37 -0400 (ADT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 627 X-Status: Status: RO Not to knock Martin (well, maybe a little) or the England WC team (I can buy t-shirts that say England '94!) but I hate Novell LAN Workplace and EXOS! Slow slow slow! I am downloading SW now. From what I have played of it before, it is a great little game (well, 2 disks is not really little). Mike P.S. Real soccer/football players have size 5 balls! -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 12 06:37:34 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA06234 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 06:37:19 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA29087; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 13:41:24 +1000 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 13:41:23 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Sad news for those who don't read news... To: Blitz Basic List , Amos List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Some sad news for Amiga owners.. The creator of the first Amiga computer, "Jay Miner" has passed away.. (recent news in c.s.a.misc) :-( May he Rest In Peace.. - Paul Reece... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 12 12:06:36 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA16791 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 12:04:21 +0300 From: C.W.Lee-CSSE93@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 12:03:55 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 12:03:19 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 12:03:07 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 12:03:02 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 12:03:02 +0300 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 12:03:02 +0300 X400-Originator: C.W.Lee-CSSE93@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<814.9407120903@mother.cs.bham.a] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: EnhancedJoyst... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: <814.9407120903@mother.cs.bham.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@cc.helsinki.fi Subject: EnhancedJoystickLib MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 22:21:05 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA19954 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 22:20:38 +0300 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA06274 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 14 Jul 1994 15:20:35 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199407141920.AA06274@access3.digex.net> Subject: Re: Serial Command problems To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 15:20:35 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: <19ED5254261@ms1.hsbos.nl> from "j.valks" at Jul 14, 94 08:49:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 453 X-Status: Status: RO >When I run it I get a Syntax Error, so when I press help I get: > OpenSerial device$,unit#,baud,io_serflags Don't you have to do something like x=Openserial device$,........? Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 15 18:53:24 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA26673 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:53:04 +0300 From: C.W.Lee-CSSE93@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:52:59 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:52:40 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:52:29 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:52:25 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:52:25 +0300 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:52:25 +0300 X400-Originator: C.W.Lee-CSSE93@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<5211.9407151552@mother.cs.bham.] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: EnhancedJoyst... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: <5211.9407151552@mother.cs.bham.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@cc.helsinki.fi Subject: EnhancedJoystickLib MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO OK, few changes has happened. Found out that C=(or someone) are probably gonna release soem sort of 4 player adapter for the CD32 cos the lowlevel.lib's code doesn't respond to my parallel adaptor and that the ports can only be set to gamepad. BTW, does anyone know how to quote a message using xmailtool under UNIX??? Just isn't no SPOT!!! From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 18 05:58:00 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA21695 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 05:55:52 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA28362; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:00:08 +1000 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:00:07 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: EML Player v2.0! - Uuencoded.. To: Blitz Basic List cc: Paul Reece Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Well, here's the latest version of my player.. Sorry, but still no med support (hey! I did this in only an hour or two of Blitz/GadToolsBox) It now has an APPWINDOW (thanks RI!) so just drop your module icon into the window, and hey presto! Oh, and I will only consider releasing the EML libs WHEN I get some libnumbers! 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What exactly are the .xtra files for?? What do they contain?? Program options?? Anything?? - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 15:47:01 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA03326 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:46:53 +0300 From: C.W.Lee-CSSE93@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:46:41 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:45:50 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:45:35 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:45:30 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:45:30 +0300 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:45:30 +0300 X400-Originator: C.W.Lee-CSSE93@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<7971.9407191245@mother.cs.bham.] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: EnhancedJoyst... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: <7971.9407191245@mother.cs.bham.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@cc.helsinki.fi Subject: EnhancedJoystickLib 1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="=================_Emil_Boundary_=============_6568070==_" X-Status: Status: RO --=================_Emil_Boundary_=============_6568070==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What about allocating me a lib number simon??? 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Acid Software have nearly sold all of their current stock which was a print run of 2500 English reference manuals, use guides and boxes. I would like to release a new version of Blitz2 which would be based around an A4 ringbinder. negative aspects to this approach: piracy: unclip ringbinder and dump manual in photocopier and hit copy... weight: probably weigh over 2kg, current box is about 1.5 cost: a little more expensive unless I can source binders in Asia positive aspects: expandable: as libraries are added and updated so can your manual tidy: have everything in one place at one time (no bums everywhere) OK, Acid now have to decide weather to invest time and money reorganising the docs and tutorials in a more managable way and spend a shitload of money on printing (which we don't have cos 2 distributors in UK owe us most of this years SkidMarks earnings) or... Turn Blitz2 into a PD product, publish all docs electronically and save a shit load of trees and other of our planet's resources. We could try and publish non PD but I think the piracy issue would be completely stupid in this case. The other thing Acid needs to take into consideration is the importance of publishing stuff developed by Blitz Users, offering the best service in this department and taking the financial resources out of Blitz stock might also be a viable argument. OK voting time: keep publishing bums, leave new docs until blitz3 which should have linker and modern '90's editor instead of 'baby' ted, use money to employ programmers to get blitz3 out early 94 republish docs in ringbinder so Blitz2 is on the shelves for XMas and upgrade current users using profit for the above put Blitz2 into pd, publish all docs on disk, support users by publishing their software and concentrate on supporting Amiga by py publishing lots of choice software Anyway, apologies for thinking aloud, feedback from you users would be appreciated, Simon From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 10:01:37 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA01335 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 10:01:17 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id SAA09747; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 18:59:54 +1200 Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 18:58:45 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: darn sis messages To: blitz list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hi, is there any possibility of knocking the sis accounts off the list that generate an unable to send mail message whenever I post anything on this list? Simon From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 25 01:48:51 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA25286 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 01:48:18 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA24223; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:46:58 +1200 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:42:25 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: New Documentation To: blitz list cc: Martin@iconz.co.nz In-Reply-To: <16B88345606@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Sun, 24 Jul 1994, Martin Kift wrote: > > Acid Software have nearly sold all of their current stock which was a > > print run of 2500 English reference manuals, use guides and boxes. > > Do you know what the total sales have been? I was expecting more than > 2500 myself, looks like piracy at play again. yeh thats the third print run I've done of English so not that bad.. > > > I would like to release a new version of Blitz2 which would be based > > around an A4 ringbinder. > > This is what I have been saying for ages. For many languages, using > conventional book formats is okay because updates are few and far > between. However, blitz seems to updated ever other week, and looking > through countless bum magazines is getting very time consuming. > > > negative aspects to this approach: > > piracy: unclip ringbinder and dump manual in photocopier and hit copy... > > weight: probably weigh over 2kg, current box is about 1.5 > > cost: a little more expensive unless I can source binders in Asia > > All these are acceptable to me. > > > positive aspects: > > expandable: as libraries are added and updated so can your manual > > tidy: have everything in one place at one time (no bums everywhere) > > Yep. > > > OK, Acid now have to decide weather to invest time and money reorganising > > the docs and tutorials in a more managable way and spend a shitload of > > money on printing (which we don't have cos 2 distributors in UK owe us > > most of this years SkidMarks earnings) or... > > Bloody hell..... > > > Turn Blitz2 into a PD product, publish all docs electronically and save a > > shit load of trees and other of our planet's resources. We could try and > > publish non PD but I think the piracy issue would be completely stupid in > > this case. > > Hmm, you be honest, I wasn't expecting that last paragraph. Turn > blitz into PD? Publishing docs in amigaguide format would be > fantastic, particularly if the new Ted became a proper WB editor and > didn't exist on a private screen. But as you say, once you do that > piracy would double or treble. > > > The other thing Acid needs to take into consideration is the importance > > of publishing stuff developed by Blitz Users, offering the best service > > in this department and taking the financial resources out of Blitz stock > > might also be a viable argument. > > What do you mean by publishing? You mean games? As an example, would > you consider publishing StarWoids as budget or whatever, or in a > compilation like mentioned previously. (All StarWars references would > have to be removed of course). Do you think you (and the authors) could > make money out of this? > > > OK voting time: > > > > keep publishing bums, leave new docs until blitz3 which should have > > linker and modern '90's editor instead of 'baby' ted, use money to employ > > programmers to get blitz3 out early 94 > > Which money? I thought you were skint? I don't think you need bums to > be honest, just put the new commands etc in amigaguide format for the > time being, people can always print them out if they want. > > > republish docs in ringbinder so Blitz2 is on the shelves for XMas and > > upgrade current users using profit for the above > > Considering your financial situation, I'd be prepared to forfit my > most wanted wish (new docs). Keep the money and plunge it into > development!!"!!! Unless of course, everybody is willing to pay > enough for the new docs to cover your costs (and more), which > incidently, I would probably be willing to do (unless the price was > huge). Of course, docs in amigaguide format would be much cheaper to > produce and distribute... > > > put Blitz2 into pd, publish all docs on disk, support users by publishing > > their software and concentrate on supporting Amiga by py publishing lots > > of choice software > > Have you thought this option through? As I mentioned above, its a > possibilty I had never considered. How much support would blitz get > then from you, if you start writing games etc. Would be get bugs fixed, > and updates as quickly? > > Maybe I should have thought more before replying to your letter, > theres so much to consider here. > > Have you considered releasing blitz as shareware. Re-release the demo > of blitz (with compile etc cut out), and then let people buy the full > version by sending money straight to you! Cut out the middle man > altogther, and take all the profits. Turn the manuals into amigaguide > docs (give the reference manual with the demo, keep the rest back for > the full version), then all you need to do is mail 5 or so disks to > people after they payed. Charge a tad extra for subscribing to BUM's > but keep the bums as guide docs too, sending upgrade disks out to > people (who pay obviously) every quarter (or sending via internet, to > people on there, to save money). Cutting out the paper docs (box etc) > would save lots of money I presume. > > I think that could just work. This would hopefully make you some > money out of blitz (maybe, but I'm only guessing here), and allow you > to also perhaps work on publishing for the amiga. > > Good food for Thought huh, thanks for your time, your comments have of course been noted, we are not as skint as we have credit available from printers etc, I'll repost new ThinkingAloud message soon... From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 25 09:22:27 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA06103 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 09:22:13 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id SAA04782; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 18:20:51 +1200 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 18:19:43 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: R WE ALONE? To: blitz list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hmmm, sorry to be stupid, are we alone on this list or was there someone looking after/coordinating things @helsinki.fi, or did he go on holiday... this net bizz is sooo weird... From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 04:49:47 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA17117 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 04:49:26 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id NAA21792; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:48:06 +1200 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:35:16 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Support Needed To: blitz list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hi All, A few requests. 1. Anyone speak a de Deutch (Dutch?), I need someone to contact a programmer at Spectravision, shit I've only got there fax number. (31) 1021 30637 contact Jan Kees de Jageer, if dutch users could mail me perhaps we can organise a small support network? 2. Anyone having problems subscribing/registerring to Blitz User magazine please mail me your name, adress, and details. If you have mailed them to me before please mail them again just to make sure:) Oh, adress is acid@iconz.co.nz 3. Anyone interested in updating documentation or writing better examples to go with chapters in reference manual please mail me with an example or ideas. 4. Anyone with a game nearing release wanting to see it published for CD32 by Acid please register your interest also. 5. Anyone with a half decent email reader for the Amiga which can handle dial up etc. can you let me know where to ftp it from... Later, Simon From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 13:25:30 1994 Received: from triode.apana.org.au (triode.apana.org.au [202.12.88.58]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA02711 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:21:42 +0300 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:39:33 +0000 From: Neil Miller Subject: Help Guys To: BLITZ Mailing List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Anybody been able to use a gadtools listview, but without the selected box below it? I have tried the tag but it does not remove it. Still having trouble bringing up a list of JUST drives connected, the tasklist works ok, but it's mixed with so much other stuff, you would still have to parse out all the crap. Dos has the commands, but I have no idea how blitz would want me to set stuff up for them. Anybody want to write a command that will return a string full of device names? RI Guys? Anybody getting memory header errors when they quit there program back to the editor? I and a number of friends are getting this, I re-installed all the original libs and this fixed it for a while but it's back again! \|/ -O"O- ----------------------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------ T E X neil@triode.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 28 03:09:59 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA23865 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 03:09:38 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA24380 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:09:34 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id KAA12282 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:09:30 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199407280009.KAA12282@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Re: Floppy disk progs To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:09:29 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <01HF73CNL0YA002CXW@email.meto.govt.uk> from "hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk" at Jul 27, 94 09:51:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1032 X-Status: Status: RO > When I then try running it from floppy, it loads the executable, then > it loads something from the harddrive (I don't know what), then continues > to load in the shapes from the floppy - and it runs ok. > I then tried it on my friends A1200 without a hard drive, and after loading > the executable it asks you to put in the workbench disk (or whatever you > booted with) and it loads something, then crashes. > The question is, what is it trying to load from the workbench disk? And > why? Surely once you've made an executable it should run as a stand-alone > program? > Any clever people know whats going on? Why don't you try running SnoopDOS, and see what it's loading?? Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 28 03:15:39 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA24090 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 03:15:27 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA24751 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:15:25 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id KAA12967 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:15:21 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199407280015.KAA12967@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: BitPlanesBitMap To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:15:21 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 984 X-Status: Status: RO G'day All, The command BitPlanesBitMap seems to be what I'm looking for (to use as a shadow/steam effect), but I'd like a little more info on it. The syntax is: BitPlanesBitMap ScrBitMap, DestBitMap, PlanePick Now I gather ScrBitMap is the ScreenBitMap Object number, and PlanePick, is the BitPlane(s) you want to work on. However, what is the DestBitMap?? Can this be the same as the ScrBitMap?? Is this another bitmap with only the number of planes given by PlanePick or what? I understand this command would be used to allow drawing on an actual bitplane of a bitmap. Am I correct in this interpretation? Any info greatly appreciated, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 3 16:04:36 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA12713 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 16:00:25 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA10863 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 23:00:18 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id XAA16037 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 23:00:16 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199408031300.XAA16037@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Problems with blitting blocks fast enough for HW scroller To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 23:00:16 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1397 X-Status: Status: RO G'day all, I am currently working on an 8-way hardware scrolling routine, and have just come across a minor snag. Scrolling to the right is fine (as should to the left when I get that going), but scrolling down (and consequently up), is causing me difficulties. The problem seems to be that "block" doesn't blit to the screen fast enough. I'm trying to blit 20 blocks across the bottom of the screen (just out of view), and across the top of the screen (again just out of view. I'm therefore trying to blit 40 blocks at once. When the scrolling is going, there is a very very minor jerk, (hardly noticeble, but I can see it, and I don't like it!). This doesn't occur if I blit only 18 blocks on top and bottom (36 in total). I could just reduce the width of my displayed screen by 32 pixels, but would like full screen (and even overscan if possible), but "block" isn't fast enough. What I would like to know is this: Is there an even faster blitting command than block?? How have other people got around this problem?? Thanks in advance, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au Thu Aug 4 21:42:20 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA12713 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 16:00:25 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA10863 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 23:00:18 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id XAA16037 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 23:00:16 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199408031300.XAA16037@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Problems with blitting blocks fast enough for HW scroller To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 23:00:16 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1397 X-Status: Status: RO G'day all, I am currently working on an 8-way hardware scrolling routine, and have just come across a minor snag. Scrolling to the right is fine (as should to the left when I get that going), but scrolling down (and consequently up), is causing me difficulties. The problem seems to be that "block" doesn't blit to the screen fast enough. I'm trying to blit 20 blocks across the bottom of the screen (just out of view), and across the top of the screen (again just out of view. I'm therefore trying to blit 40 blocks at once. When the scrolling is going, there is a very very minor jerk, (hardly noticeble, but I can see it, and I don't like it!). This doesn't occur if I blit only 18 blocks on top and bottom (36 in total). I could just reduce the width of my displayed screen by 32 pixels, but would like full screen (and even overscan if possible), but "block" isn't fast enough. What I would like to know is this: Is there an even faster blitting command than block?? How have other people got around this problem?? Thanks in advance, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 05:00:09 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA23134 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 04:59:12 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA28008 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 11:59:06 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA18367 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 11:59:01 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199408040159.LAA18367@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Problems with blitting blocks fast enough for HW scroller To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 11:59:00 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1532 X-Status: Status: RO G'day all, I am currently working on an 8-way hardware scrolling routine, and have just come across a minor snag. Scrolling to the right is fine (as should to the left when I get that going), but scrolling down (and consequently up), is causing me difficulties. The problem seems to be that "block" doesn't blit to the screen fast enough. I'm trying to blit 20 blocks across the bottom of the screen (just out of view), and across the top of the screen (again just out of view. I'm therefore trying to blit 40 blocks at once. When the scrolling is going, there is a very very minor jerk, (hardly noticeble, but I can see it, and I don't like it!). This doesn't occur if I blit only 18 blocks on top and bottom (36 in total). I could just reduce the width of my displayed screen by 32 pixels, but would like full screen (and even overscan if possible), but "block" isn't fast enough. What I would like to know is this: Is there an even faster blitting command than block?? How have other people got around this problem?? Thanks in advance, Dave PS. I've mailed this to the list before (last night), but doesn't seem to have shown up. ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 13:22:02 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA18354 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 13:21:28 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA24356 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 20:21:18 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id UAA23702 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 20:21:17 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199408041021.UAA23702@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Re: Shape loading To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 20:21:16 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <14BC6E3032@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> from "Martin Kift" at Aug 4, 94 09:03:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 805 X-Status: Status: RO > > To do a cludge shape command you will need to allocate your own memory, > > and then fill in the shape object structure by hand, the object is in the > > appendix of the reference manual. > There is already a nice CludgeShape command, its in the Reflective > Images (I hope I got that name right) RILibs extensions. It works > nicely too. Is this in a version that is currently being widely distributed?? That is, is it in RIBlitzLibs3.1 or in a newer version? Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sat Aug 6 06:15:22 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA21280 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 1994 06:15:06 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA19156 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 1994 13:15:00 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id NAA27402 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sat, 6 Aug 1994 13:14:58 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199408060314.NAA27402@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Moving individual bitplanes To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 13:14:58 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 477 X-Status: Status: RO G'day all, Can someone please tell me how to move individual bitplanes on a bitmap?? Would I just use BitPlanesBitMap?? Thanks in advance, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 9 05:31:09 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA10102 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 05:30:35 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA15164 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:30:21 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id MAA09704 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:30:19 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199408090230.MAA09704@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Writing a library To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:30:18 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 710 X-Status: Status: RO G'day all, In the last edition of Amiga Down Under, there was part one in a two part article written by Mark Sibly on writing libraries for BlitzII. Seeing as the next edition has appeard for quite a while, is there any chance that anyone at acid could either post the two articles to the list, or someone else write a tutorial on how to go about it?? Thanks in advance, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au Tue Aug 9 06:10:10 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA10102 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 05:30:35 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA15164 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:30:21 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id MAA09704 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:30:19 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199408090230.MAA09704@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Writing a library To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:30:18 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 710 X-Status: Status: O G'day all, In the last edition of Amiga Down Under, there was part one in a two part article written by Mark Sibly on writing libraries for BlitzII. Seeing as the next edition has appeard for quite a while, is there any chance that anyone at acid could either post the two articles to the list, or someone else write a tutorial on how to go about it?? Thanks in advance, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 16 08:24:38 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA06929 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 08:23:11 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA21221 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 15:23:09 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA19903 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 15:22:55 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199408160522.PAA19903@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Bitplane moving To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 15:22:54 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 510 X-Status: Status: RO G'day all, I posted a message the other day, but noone has seemed to answer it, so here it is again. How can I move an individual bitplane in a bitmap?? Thanks in advance, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 17 02:53:51 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA25982 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 02:51:49 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA00807 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:51:48 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id JAA15496 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:51:44 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199408162351.JAA15496@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Re: Bitplane moving To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:51:43 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199408171818.AA03901@zeus> from "neil o'rourke" at Aug 17, 94 08:12:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1006 X-Status: Status: RO > > > > How can I move an individual bitplane in a bitmap?? > > > What do you mean exactly, "move an individual bitplane in a bit map"? > You can simulate this effect by having a large off-screen bitmap, and > copy over (or blit over) the section needed into the specified bitmap. > If this is what you want, I've written some code to allow you use the > blitter for this purpose. > Regards, > Neil What I would like, is to be able to draw into a specific bitplane (using BitPlanesBitMap), and then scrolling this individual bitplane around on top of the existing bitmap. I would greatly appreciate looking at your code, to see if that does the trick! Thanks. Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 18 13:21:58 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au ([131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA21324 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 13:21:36 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA17940 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 20:21:29 +1000 Received: (from s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id UAA21953 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 20:21:25 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199408181021.UAA21953@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Re: Bitplane moving To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 20:21:24 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Acid Software" at Aug 18, 94 06:21:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 828 X-Status: Status: RO > Move individual bitplanes? > If you are going to ask such bizarre questions a little outline of what > you are trying to acheive may help us offer advise. Basically, what I'm trying to achieve, is similar to what is found in the game Banshee. I'd like to have a bitplane (or two), moving independedly of the main bitmap with clouds or rain on it. By setting up the palette correctly, this will produce shadowy effects underneath the areas that are drawn on in the free moving bitplanes. Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Please contact me for info s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | about s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | Compendium ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 5 01:24:24 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA25435 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 01:22:19 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA03473; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 10:16:55 +1200 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 10:16:53 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: aminet connection To: blitz list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO I have been wanting to do this for a while and maybe someone with a little more experience can help me out... There is a fido type network called BlitzAmi which is distributed in AmigaNet. I moderate this forum and I would guess it has about 3 times as many Blitz users on it than this list. If I wanted to join it with this list I'd need a point for the fidenet side and an email adress for the list side. A few problems... * i have to use a commercial service for my internet so I pay $10 per meg for my mail, of course I'd rather have access to a cheaper system for the interconnection so I wouldn't have to cover the extra costs, especially with the stupid header/footer overheads on the net * it would have to be done competantly, I don't want to piss any one off on this list by having multiple garbage repeats etc. being dumped in everyones mail box (sisvax sisvax sisvax) Anyone got any suggestions, I am willing to pay for upkeep for the connection and think it would benefit everyone.... Simon (bum7 docs will be posted tomorrrow) From blitz-list-request Tue Sep 6 03:57:28 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA25366 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 03:57:09 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id MAA08610; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 12:51:37 +1200 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 12:51:36 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: bum7 newstuff To: blitz list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO BUM7 MAIN DOC Updates and Fixes to Blitz2 v1.9 -------------------------------- Stability Several improvements have been made to the stability of Blitz2 programs. First up all string commands have been fixed to both work properly with the null-termination system introduced in v.18 (our apologies here) and error checking has been added. No longer will system crashes be caused with illegal size parameters in mid$() etc. Also, the ASMEND command has been added. Using assembler in statements and functions use to require the use of UNLK A4 and RTS. This system did not work properly when runtime errors were enabled. A fullproof method is now available, simply use the ASMEND command in place of any RTS commands. Blitz2 will look after the unlinking of A4, allow for runtime errors and then do an RTS. Finally my darts demo runs with runtime errors enabels (yipeeee!). And finally, runtime error checking has been added for square bracket arrays. Yup, out of range checking has been incorporated for those of us whose first guess at why our programs were crashing was to go through and check such usage manually. This with the new string checking and the sexy new debugger should return a few people to using Blitz2's runtime debugging features. Thanks to all those and their abuse for helping us get these problems resolved. Debugging The debugger is now a separate program that is launched by Blitz2 when a prgram is run (runtime errors enabled of course). The gadgets in the window allow the programmer access to the standard debugging features. CtrlAltC can still be used to halt programs, especially those using Slices and Displays in Blitz mode. By increasing the size of the window the program listing can be viewed. A PANIC! button has also been introduced once a program is launched from the editor. Yup, programs are now launched not run so those into weird system crashes may be able to return to Ted leaving their programs disabled in memory. A REBOOT button may have been more useful... The source code for the default debugger is included in the acidlibsrc directory of the libsdev archive. It is extremely well documented by Mark so those wanting to extend the functionality of the system are most welcome. Serial port support for using a remote terminal would be very nice. Interupts and BlitzKeys BlitzKeys, BlitzKeys, BlitzKeys. A common profanity used by those of us use to keyboard lock ups in keyboard based Blitz games (especially SkidMarks). Well no more! Blitz now leaves Amiga interupts enabled in Blitz mode. This means that not only is the system keyboard interupt still running (thank the lord) but any SetInts initiated in Amiga mode will continue. Other advantages are that Blitz mode is now more acceptable to the CD32 environment and RawStatus can be used in Amiga mode for keyboard games not wanting to run in Windows (yuck). Blitzkeys On now does a bit of a "BlitzkeysInput" for one character inputs only, any other inputs use the previously defined Input channel. Blitzkeys Off no longer exists. BlitzRepeat has gone (no repeating keys). Serial Stuff Peter Tavinor has upgraded the Serial Library. ReadSerial now return a word (read unsigned byte) so chr$(255) is acceptable. WriteSerialString includes flags for DoIO and True String (not null terminated). ReadSerial has a new flag "WaitForChar" GadTools The GTPalette has had several default tags removed as they crashed under 2.0 (yeh, great, just what tags are suppose to avoid). AttachGTList had a minor problem in some situations (now fixed). Another bug that has been found in GadTools under 2.0 is that GTLists actually allocate gadget id's for internal use. Besides being completely unethical (and fixed in 3.0) it means that programmers should use id values of greater than 50 to avoid this system bug. Adding GTLists last in your list should also work although their id's should be more than the number of lines of text they should display (no I am not going to explain further). ScreensLib The Screen command now rounds the width up to the nearest multiple of 16 rather than causing the error "Screen Width Must be a multiple of 16". Common sense I think. ValLib Val() now accepts hex and binary strings (preceeded by "$" and "%" of course.) Because Val() returns a float it should not be used to evaluate 32 bit integers (longs). Display Library A quick version of the InitCoplist command has been included which calculates the number of colours, sprites and size depending on just the type parameter. As promised the Display library now sports new commands for palette effects and so forth. There are two varieties of copper based commands, the first allows the user to insert a new palette or copperstring at a certain line of the display, the other allows control of each and every line of the display. For line based effects a negative value should be used in combination with the numcustoms parameter of the InitCopList command. Color splits, bitmap scrolling, scan doubling/trebling/quadrupling and custom copper strings can now be acheived on a line by line basis. Palette Library. A number of commands have been added to the Palette library for use mainly with the display library. Fades and Colour cycling can now be performed on palette objects themselves (rather than on screens and slices) and hence can be used in conjunction with the DisplayPalette command. Banks and Decoding. Decode commands have been added to allow programmers to both include shapes, sounds, palettes, music and ILBM's (IFF bitmaps) in their programs or from preloaded files (mainly using the LoadBank command or unpacking type commands). To include such files in the program the incbin command is used. Typically a list of included files will be situated at the bottom of the listing (with and End statement just above to be safe). Each IncBin will be preceeded by a label and the ?label syntax would be used to pass the location of each included file to the appropriate Decode command at the top of the program. Those unhappy with the slow but memory unhungry LoadBitMap command can take advantage of the fast but memory hungry method of loading iff/ilbm files with the code listed in the DecodeILBM command description. New Commands ------------ GTStatus(GTList#,Id) ;bbgtlib GTArrowSize size ;bbgtlib DecodeILBM BitMap#,MemoryLocation ;ilbmifflib DecodeSound Sound#,MemoryLocation ;audiolib DecodePalette Palette#,MemoryLocation[,Palette Offset] ;palettelib DecodeMedModule MedModule#,MemoryLocation ;medlib DecodeShapes Shape#[,Shape#],MemoryLocation ;shapeslib InitShape Shape#,Width,Height,Depth ;shapeslib SetPeriod Sound#,Period ;audiolib ;audiolib Bank(Bank#) LoadBank Bank#,FileName$[,MemType] AllocMem (size,type) ;banklib FreeMem location,size ;banklib BlockScroll X1,Y1,Width,Height,X2,Y2[,BitMap#] ;scrolllib ClipBlitMode BPLCON0 ;2dlib CyclePalette Palette# ;palettelib FadePalette SrcPalette#,DestPalette#,Brightness.q ;palettelib InitPalette Palette#,NumColors ;palettelib PaletteRange Palette#,StartCol,EndCol,r0,g0,b0,r1,g1,b1 ;palettelib DuplicatePalette SrcPalette#,DestPalette# ;palettelib SavePalette Palette#,FileName$ ;iffmakelib CustomColors CopList#,CCOffset,YPos,Palette,startcol,numcols ;displaylib CustomString CopList#,CCOffset,YPos,Copper$ ;displaylib DisplayDblScan CopList#,Mode[,copoffset] ;displaylib DisplayRainbow CopList#,Register,Palette[,copoffset] ;displaylib DisplayRGB CopList#,Register,line,r,g,b[,copoffset] ;displaylib DisplayUser CopList#,Line,String[,Offset] ;displaylib DisplayScroll CopList#,&xpos.q(n),&xpos.q(n)[,Offset] ;displaylib ReadSerialMem Unit#,Address,Length ;seriallib WriteSerialMem Unit#,Address,Length ;seriallib PopInput & PopOutput ;inputoutputlib GameB(por#) ;gameiolib NumPars ;cliargslib Par$(parameter#) ;cliargslib FromCLI ;cliargslib ParPath$ (parameter,type) ;cliargslib From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 9 07:17:15 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA06664 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 07:16:58 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id QAA14785; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 16:11:33 +1200 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 16:11:33 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: correction To: blitz list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Umm slight correction, I am paying $50 per meg for incoming and outgoing email, OUCH! So, if anyone feels like sending acid large uuencoded files please ask (with description) first, got enough money troubles as it is... Simon From blitz-list-request Sat Sep 10 07:25:40 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA12378 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 1994 07:25:01 +0300 Received: (dfinlay@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id QAA19841; Sat, 10 Sep 1994 16:19:38 +1200 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 16:19:37 +1200 (NZST) From: Don Finlay Subject: subscribe To: Blitz2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO SUBSCRIBE From blitz-list-request Fri May 13 01:39:46 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA07461 for ; Fri, 13 May 1994 01:39:26 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id IAA27202; Fri, 13 May 1994 08:43:06 +1000 Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 08:43:05 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Guess What To: M D Cox cc: blitzlist In-Reply-To: <199405121505.AA08092@access1.digex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 12 May 1994, M D Cox wrote: > >> I just put Blitz 2 On LayBy (Cheers, applause!!) > >Er... what? I didn't understood the joke. What the hell is LayBy? > Forgive him, he is British. ;) In the USA we call it Lay Away, where you put > something on hold and pay for it a little at a time. If this is something > different, forgive me, I'm American. Hey! Don't you DARE call me british!!! I'm AUSTRALIAN.. (no offence to any Brits out there) > > Mike > -- > Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net > A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU > For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! > For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au Student & Network Assistant (UNIX) ar562@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu Claremont College, Tasmania, Australia. ds041@cleveland.freenet.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri May 13 04:56:39 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA13269 for ; Fri, 13 May 1994 04:56:21 +0300 Received: from mdw062.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #6430) id <01HCAFT1H5008ZE26M@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Fri, 13 May 1994 11:54:44 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw062.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.4) id LAA04889; Fri, 13 May 1994 11:54:12 +1000 Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 11:48:49 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: Protecting graphics In-reply-to: To: NacMAN Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 12 May 1994, NacMAN wrote: > > Is there anyway, that you can have your graphics embedded in a game, so > that you do not need to load them separately, and stop people from ripping > off your graphics or changing them.. > > Nac > It can be done by including it as a binary using incbin. Although you may have some problems with "loading it as shape" but there are ways around it. For example you can save it to ram: and then load it as usuall. Although those methods are "fine" for would hackers, there is no real way of preventing anyone from stealing it. You can try encryption, as it will make it slightly more difficult (If you got BUM6 you will have support for encryption). To make things even more annoying you can encrypt half of your data with one password, the other half with other password or mix it every 10k for example but that's taking it to extreme. Maciek. From blitz-list-request Fri May 13 13:24:51 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA04936 for ; Fri, 13 May 1994 13:24:36 +0300 Received: from athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 13 May 1994 10:08:40 +0100 Received: from thorbb by athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk (4.1/aberclient-4.0-cs-1.1) id AA25771; Fri, 13 May 94 10:08:17 BST To: NacMAN Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Protecting graphics In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 12 May 1994 23:52:42 +0300." Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 10:08:36 +0100 Message-Id: <2536.768820116@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: Nigel Hughes X-Status: Status: RO In message , NacMAN writes: > Is there anyway, that you can have your graphics embedded in a game, so > that you do not need to load them separately, and stop people from ripping > off your graphics or changing them.. > > Nac > Yeah, use my compressor! It turns IFF files into a smaller format that is not IFF, therefore not readable by viewers etc. I also have routines to cache these pictures to memory and then decompress then onto a bitmap (and into a palette). The compression tool is not ready yet, Monay OK? I will let people know so I can mail them the archive (only little). So in short I can supply, 1) Compression Tool 2) Source for decompression 3) Source for caching and decompression If you want a copy let me know. Nigel Hughes From blitz-list-request Sat May 14 01:08:38 1994 Received: from inca.gate.net (inca.gate.net [198.80.2.35]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA19356 for ; Sat, 14 May 1994 01:07:10 +0300 Received: by inca.gate.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #40) id m0q25Qt-0004IgC; Fri, 13 May 94 18:10 EDT Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 18:09:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Scott Subject: Re: Guess What To: Paul Reece cc: M D Cox , blitzlist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 13 May 1994, Paul Reece wrote: > On Thu, 12 May 1994, M D Cox wrote: > > > >> I just put Blitz 2 On LayBy (Cheers, applause!!) > > >Er... what? I didn't understood the joke. What the hell is LayBy? > > Forgive him, he is British. ;) In the USA we call it Lay Away, where you put > > something on hold and pay for it a little at a time. If this is something > > different, forgive me, I'm American. > > Hey! Don't you DARE call me british!!! I'm AUSTRALIAN.. (no offence to any > Brits out there) > Yes, and I think the other guy was Spanish, not British! From blitz-list-request Mon May 16 16:48:26 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA13259 for ; Mon, 16 May 1994 16:47:58 +0300 Received: from mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #6430) id <01HCFBKCRTU88ZEILV@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Mon, 16 May 1994 23:47:08 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.4) id XAA17652; Mon, 16 May 1994 23:46:51 +1000 Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 23:45:31 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: Disk Commands In-reply-to: <1F7F70005DF@ms1.hsbos.nl> To: Jurgen Valks Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 16 May 1994, Jurgen Valks wrote: > Last week I asked if there are any disk command routines available. I didn't > receive a reply so I started programming by myself. > > At this moment I have a routine to read a directory to a list or a array. If > anybody want it, please mail me. > Are they low level routines, or do they go through OS? Maciek. From blitz-list-request Tue May 17 01:37:07 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA06202 for ; Tue, 17 May 1994 01:34:49 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id IAA17298; Tue, 17 May 1994 08:39:13 +1000 Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 08:39:12 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: RE: Projects To: Peter Sandberg cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <9405160842.AA03281@gfl.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 16 May 1994, Peter Sandberg wrote: > Hi there! > > With twelve projects reported on this list it seems that we are missing out > on some programmers since Acid received 120 entries in their programming > competition.(anyone knows how it turned out?). > > And now a question. Is there no way to connect this list or any other kind of > e-mail to Aminet and by doing so getting in touch with Acid? If Acid are on Fidonet at all, you can send email from Internet to fidonet and vice versa... If anyone is interested, I can dig up the addressing information BUT it is sometimes quite slow sending this way... Paul > > Bye! > Peter Sandberg > sand@gfl.se > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au Student & Network Assistant (UNIX) ar562@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu Claremont College, Tasmania, Australia. ds041@cleveland.freenet.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed May 18 07:06:27 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA18908 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 07:05:57 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id OAA22049; Wed, 18 May 1994 14:09:33 +1000 Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 14:09:32 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Protracker support To: "Martin 'StarWoids' Kift" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <"25483 Tue May 17 13:38:16 1994"@mhs-relay.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 17 May 1994, Martin 'StarWoids' Kift wrote: > Has anybody developed a protracker 3.15 compatible mod player for > blitz yet, I'm very happy with the ST/NT and med formats, and I need > the functionality that PT provides. I will be starting such a project soon.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed May 18 13:46:31 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA09116 for ; Wed, 18 May 1994 13:46:14 +0300 Received: from athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 18 May 1994 11:45:49 +0100 Received: from thorbb by athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk (4.1/aberclient-4.0-cs-1.1) id AA08844; Wed, 18 May 94 11:45:17 BST To: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au (Son Huu Le) Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi, nlh1@aber.ac.uk Subject: Re: Reading volume name In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 17 May 1994 21:31:01 +1000." <9405171131.12355@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 11:45:36 +0100 Message-Id: <22200.769257936@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: Nigel Hughes X-Status: Status: RO In message <9405171131.12355@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU>, s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) writes: > > > Hi guys, > > OK I have a bit of a problem, I want to check all disk drives for a file > > in their root. So I need all the volume names, easy I say I will just get > > a DosList from dosextens. So I knock up this routine, compiles fine, I get > > all type 2's (Volumes) and the correct number of them, however when I try > > and get the BPTR to the BSTR I get negative values, zeros and when I try > > and look at the BSTR I get garbage, even if I get a valid address! Why? > > ARRRGGGHHHH!!! This almost drove me crazy!! (; No pun intended, I hope 8) Thanks man, I was begining to think I was the only one on this list that tries to do things that are not listed in the manuals! > The problem was a combination of wrong DosList structure and wrong > interpretation of BSTR. Ah ha. > Firstly, the DosList should contain a C union of three different structures > (ie. DosListUnion should be either dol_Handler, dol_Volume or dol_AssignList, > not all three!) The .dt_Volume newtype provides a workaround. OK I am being stupid. > Secondly, a BSTR is a BPTR with the first byte containing string length. > To convert a BPTR to a normal Amiga pointer you must multiply it by 4. > ie. APTR = BPTR << 2 Yeah, I did try that and still got crap, must have been doing something wrong, again 8) Ho hum. > Thirdly, you've got a weird way of accessing newtype structures. (; Yep, but I types this in from memory when I got here, as I forgot my source 8) > Okay, here is the working version. You're a champ. Nigel Hughes... From blitz-list-request Thu May 19 08:41:33 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA24211 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 08:41:11 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id PAA27142; Thu, 19 May 1994 15:45:38 +1000 Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 15:45:37 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Protracker support To: Martin Kift , Blitz Basic List In-Reply-To: <199405180822.SAA22636@slick.clare.tased.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 18 May 1994, Martin Kift wrote: > > On Tue, 17 May 1994, Martin 'StarWoids' Kift wrote: > > > > > Has anybody developed a protracker 3.15 compatible mod player for > > > blitz yet, I'm very happy with the ST/NT and med formats, and I need > > > the functionality that PT provides. > > > > I will be starting such a project soon.... > > Excellent, how long do you think it will take??? I would kind of like > it yesterday 8) Hmm.. I'm not sure!! (I've never written stuff for Blitz before - actually I don't even own it yet!! - Next week I should get it!) > But seriously, my friend wrote some excellent pt3.15 mods for my > blitz game (he used PT without telling me, otherwise I could have > warned him). When I found out and discovered they were not supported, > he spent days painfully converting them to med format, and > unfortunately was forced to remove many lovely effects which were > made possible by pt commands. I know exactly what you mean... That is why I wrote the Enhanced Music Extension for Amos/AmosPro > Anyway, best of luck with the project, I'm sure lots of people out > here will love you if you finish it! 8) I hope so too!!! BTW, finger eme@elysium.clare.tased.edu.au for some info on what MAY be in the Blitz version... - Paul > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | > | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > | A1200/80HD/68030-50/6M/BlitzII. | Next game: 'StarWoids' coming soon! | > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri May 20 04:00:52 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA20554 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 03:58:05 +0300 Received: from mdw037.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #6430) id <01HCK5Q6S1O08ZGCNX@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Fri, 20 May 1994 10:54:01 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw037.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.4) id KAA02171; Fri, 20 May 1994 10:53:47 +1000 Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 10:48:25 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: READMEM/WRITEMEM CRASH In-reply-to: <82@ELIZA.demon.co.uk> To: John Carron Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 19 May 1994, John Carron wrote: > Hi, > I`ve been using Blitz for a while now and I`m very impressed but > I`ve started getting random crashes when I use the READMEM and WRITEMEM > commands. Disc access seems to start ok but the functions never return. > The files I`m reading and writing are about a meg. each. and sometimes there > are three or four of them. I`m calling the functions from Amiga mode. > Has anyone else had similar problems???? > > I`m using an A4000/40 and I know the debugger was previously causing problems > on this machine but it seems to be working properly with V1.8. > > Also I want to work with some really really big bitmaps so I`ve got around > the limited Chip RAM problem by keeping the data in FAST RAM and copying > it back when its needed. At first I thought the Blitter would be much better > at copying these blocks of data however on my A4000 the processor seems to > be able to copy data loads more quickly than the Blitter! Is this perhaps > because I`m not using the blitter correctly???? Blitz doesn`t seem to overlap > Blitter and Processor activity. Has anyone successfully used the Graphics > Library block copy commands from Blitz? > > Cheers. > > John Carron AGA blitter is about 1.7 times faster then original and becauses of that on 020+ processors it is much faster to move things around using processor. That's why things like CPUBlit were invented, so you could get smooth scrolling on WB screens. As far as I know it is impossible(?) to move things from fast to chip using blitter as it can only access chip ram. Unless there are some "undocumented" features of new AGA chips that noone knows about. Maciek. From blitz-list-request Mon May 23 19:51:04 1994 Received: from tweedledee.amp.york.ac.uk (tweedledee.amp.york.ac.uk [144.32.152.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA06380 for ; Mon, 23 May 1994 19:50:51 +0300 Received: by tweedledee.amp.york.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0q5dD0-00002wC; Mon, 23 May 94 17:50:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 17:49:16 +0100 (BST) From: DJ Linsley G7RAW Subject: Re: BUM6 To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <"17245 Mon May 23 12:16:13 1994"@mhs-relay.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 23 May 1994, Martin Kift wrote: > > Does anybody in the UK have BUM6 yet? > > It's getting blummin' annoying having to wait for it... > > Yeah, I know of 3 people in the UK (including myself) who have it. I > suggest you call them to find out where your's is. > Who do I have to call? Benoit Varese (or whoever) has now left and so I presume the telephone number is different. Please send me details on who to contact regarding getting my BUM 6. Thanks. Regards, David Linsley - Electronics Student, York England Internet: djl102@unix.york.ac.uk Amateur Radio: G7RAW@GB7NCL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dragon 64:DosPlus4.9c & OS9 L1 V2 Amiga 1200:Blitz Basic 2 & Amicom 2 "With OS9 Dragon Data will infiltrate the business market" GEC Nov '84 From blitz-list-request Wed May 25 15:59:30 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA22135 for ; Wed, 25 May 1994 15:58:58 +0300 Received: from decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk (actually decb.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 25 May 1994 13:58:28 +0100 Received: by decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk (5.65/aberclient-4.0) id AA15693; Wed, 25 May 1994 13:58:18 +0100 Message-Id: <9405251258.AA15693@decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk> From: mhr@aber.ac.uk (Mike) Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 13:58:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: Martin Kift "Re: Blitz manuals" (May 24, 9:57pm) Header: Words of wisdom are as follows:- X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Martin Kift , blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Blitz manuals X-Status: Status: RO On May 24, 9:57pm, Martin Kift wrote: > Subject: Re: Blitz manuals > Oh oh, arguement time 8) > Calling the User Manual crap is an understatement of the highest > order. It wastes pages on crappy listing of workbench programs, and > then skips over all the interesting stuff, graphics/scrolling etc. I > have wasted days and days on problems that must have been known by > the developers, but they didn't write any bloody descriptions down! > Makes my bloody boil. I haven't been using Blitz that long, but just in dipping into the manuals I have found two errors that are more than just typos - they are completely wrong! (I'm sure everyone knows about the random number generator not generating numbers in the correct range and the error in how to define a pointer type). This isn't an old user manual either - its got BUMs 1 -5 in the back, so surely they could have corrected some of the errors in the text. It makes me wonder if Acid are entirely serious about this. > If they think that the user manual is going to teach novices, then > they are sorely mistaken. I've given up on the manual in favour of the `Nigel Hughes' option - okay he winges a bit about me being stupid and `its in the manual' but he (usually) gets it right! Dunno how he knows though ..... Mike. You can reach Mike Richards at the following /@\ \|/ address ... (if you're that desperate). `-\ \ ______ - 0 - \ \/ ` / \ /|\ _ mhr@aber.ac.uk \_i / \ |\____// | |==| |=----/ ---- Why not drop me a line ...? -------------------hn/--hn/----------- From blitz-list-request Wed May 25 18:24:43 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA28447 for ; Wed, 25 May 1994 18:13:22 +0300 Received: from decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk (actually decb.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 25 May 1994 16:12:38 +0100 Received: by decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk (5.65/aberclient-4.0) id AA21085; Wed, 25 May 1994 16:12:27 +0100 Message-Id: <9405251512.AA21085@decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk> From: mhr@aber.ac.uk (Mike) Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 16:12:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: Martin Kift "Re: Blitz manuals" (May 25, 5:07pm) Header: Words of wisdom are as follows:- X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Martin Kift , blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Blitz manuals X-Status: Status: RO On May 25, 5:07pm, Martin Kift wrote: > Subject: Re: Blitz manuals > > It makes me wonder if Acid are entirely serious about this. > > I get that opinion too. All credit to them for Blitz, but not to keep the manuals up to date is nearly unforgiveable. Most of the bugs and typos must have been noticed as soon as the program was released. Since the User Manual has been rebound since release, why wasn't the text updated? There is a very amateurish air about Acid's support - they keep saying `Subscribe to Blitz User Magazine', ut they didn't bother to include a registration card or even details of how much it would cost to subscribe - you really have to like Acid sometimes. It makes me think of the bad old days at Commodore UK .... [shudder] > Well, once you have about 40 issues of BUM, looking through them to > find an instruction will become a labour of love. 8) You'll think, > does blitz have an instruction for this, and then you'll spend the > next hour or so looking though pages and pages before finding it > does, but theres only 3 words of explanation. > > And why does the manual have to be so large (cross-sectional wise, not > thinkness wise). Good point, and why is it still in a spine folder which won't lie flat on the table. It also doesn't sit on my manual shelf either - it pokes out and doesn't go with my Imagine and Real 3D manuals. Its also badly laid out - the example code is too long and complex for Joe Public to bother to type in - putting all of that on the disks would be MUCH better. Also the manual isn't properly cross referenced, and wouldn't an Amigaguide version be nice ? It is the 1990's after all. 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(if you're that desperate). `-\ \ ______ - 0 - \ \/ ` / \ /|\ _ mhr@aber.ac.uk \_i / \ |\____// | |==| |=----/ ---- Why not drop me a line ...? -------------------hn/--hn/----------- From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 03:16:15 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA19315 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 03:15:43 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id KAA27660; Thu, 26 May 1994 10:19:14 +1000 Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 10:19:13 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: BPR #3 To: Jurgen Valks cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <2BFCF1E66@ms1.hsbos.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 24 May 1994, Jurgen Valks wrote: > And here is it again, the Blitz Project Report: And here's an update to mine.. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > NAME : Paul Reece > EMAIL : preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au > PROJECT : Porting my AMOS music extension to Blitz2. > STATUS : Work on it will start tomorrow!! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 13:10:46 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA13018 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 13:10:24 +0300 Received: from decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk (actually decb.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 26 May 1994 11:10:05 +0100 Received: by decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk (5.65/aberclient-4.0) id AA12472; Thu, 26 May 1994 11:10:01 +0100 Message-Id: <9405261010.AA12472@decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk> From: mhr@aber.ac.uk (Mike) Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 11:10:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: Arthur "bum UK" (May 26, 8:27am) Header: Words of wisdom are as follows:- X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Arthur , Blitz_Basic_II Subject: Re: bum UK X-Status: Status: RO On May 26, 8:27am, Arthur wrote: > Subject: bum UK > Hi , > > Is there anyone who knows if bum UK is dead ,or > moved to another place ??? > > 'cause I send my cheque (15 Pounds) about 5 weeks ago , but > I still haven't received any bum's yet and even my money hasn't > been credited from my account yet ... There's some shake up going on at Acid's UK HQ, ther person who used to handle their operations over here has left Acid and I don't know if they have a replacement. I've been waiting almost 2 months for a registration card (which wasn't included in the package), so you may have a bit of a wait yet. Mike. You can reach Mike Richards at the following /@\ \|/ address ... (if you're that desperate). `-\ \ ______ - 0 - \ \/ ` / \ /|\ _ mhr@aber.ac.uk \_i / \ |\____// | |==| |=----/ ---- Why not drop me a line ...? -------------------hn/--hn/----------- From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 14:14:11 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA16015 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:11:00 +0300 Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 12:08:17 +0100 Message-Id: <94052612081768@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Steve) To: aavande@cs.vu.nl, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: bum UK X-VMS-To: SMTP%"aavande@cs.vu.nl" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST X-Status: Status: RO In the latest Amiga Format, it appears that they have moved from their London address - which would explain why they are not answering the phone. I'll mail the blitz-list with the phone number tomorrow (Friday) and the address. Happy Blitzing. Steve ==========================================================================\ = Steve Matty from Reflective Images, Portsmouth, England =\ = -----------------------------------------------------------------------=\ = A1200 | 6Meg | 340Meg HD | Blitz 2 | Current Project = Blitz Bomers =\ ==========================================================================\ From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 14:14:08 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA16138 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:13:06 +0300 Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 12:11:13 +0100 Message-Id: <94052612111361@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Steve) To: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: BUM6 X-VMS-To: SMTP%"M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST X-Status: Status: RO When did you get BUM6? My BlitzNumber is in the first 150 and am still waiting. Aaargh! Steve Matty, A1200/340HD/6M/Blitz2 From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 14:45:33 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA18205 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:45:18 +0300 From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 12:43:24 +0100 Message-Id: <94052612432461@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> To: mcox@access.digex.net, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Blitz Libraries X-VMS-To: SMTP%"mcox@access.digex.net" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST X-Status: Status: RO I'll send the libraries over either today or tomorrow since I'll have to go home to get them. The game, though, will take at least until tomorrow because I'm making some little whee alterations to it at the moment...... Steve Mc. From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 14:50:07 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA18497 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:49:36 +0300 From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 12:47:11 +0100 Message-Id: <94052612471107@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> To: mcox@access.digex.net, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Blitz Libraries X-VMS-To: SMTP%"mcox@access.digex.net" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST X-Status: Status: RO Whoooopppsssss!!!!! The game uses PAL screens at the moment! (256 pixels tall). So you might have a few problems with it............. I'll send it anyway tomorrow unless you want to cancel you request 'cause of this little message. Steve Mc. From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 17:29:48 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA26124 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 17:27:27 +0300 Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 15:25:48 +0100 Message-Id: <94052615254814@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Steve) To: mcox@access.digex.net, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: BUM6 X-VMS-To: SMTP%"mcox@access.digex.net" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST X-Status: Status: RO >BlitzNumber? What is that? The BlitzNumber is the number they give you when you get BUM5 after sending off the registration card. Steve. From blitz-list-request Thu May 26 18:48:55 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA29905 for ; Thu, 26 May 1994 18:48:41 +0300 Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 16:38:36 +0100 Message-Id: <94052616383647@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Steve) To: mcox@access.digex.net, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: BUM6 X-VMS-To: SMTP%"mcox@access.digex.net" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST X-Status: Status: RO >must be a nonn-North America thing.... When did you get BUM6? I am still waiting for mine.\ What does it contain? Is TED better? any bug fixes? AGA properly? Steve From blitz-list-request Fri May 27 01:54:22 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA14990 for ; Fri, 27 May 1994 01:53:57 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id IAA01568; Fri, 27 May 1994 08:58:13 +1000 Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 08:58:12 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: BPR #3 To: M D Cox cc: blitzlist In-Reply-To: <199405261135.AA24813@access1.digex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 26 May 1994, M D Cox wrote: > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> NAME : Paul Reece > >> EMAIL : preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au > >> PROJECT : Porting my AMOS music extension to Blitz2. > >> STATUS : Work on it will start tomorrow!! > Didn't Benjamin Franklin say "Today never leaves and tomorrow never comes."?? > ;) :) Seriously, I got Blitz2 in the mail last night... I wills start on the lib ASAP.. BTW, Where the hell is this intuition planner they brag about on the back of the box??? - Paul > > Mike > -- > Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net > A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU > For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! > For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net > (My dinosaur is extinct) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri May 27 03:30:12 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA16671 for ; Fri, 27 May 1994 03:29:35 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id KAA01928; Fri, 27 May 1994 10:33:31 +1000 Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 10:33:30 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: BUM6 To: Steve cc: mcox@access.digex.net, blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <94052616383647@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 26 May 1994, Steve wrote: > > >must be a nonn-North America thing.... > > When did you get BUM6? I am still waiting for mine.\ > > What does it contain? Is TED better? any bug fixes? AGA properly? BUM has v1.80 of Blitz on it plus some developer stuff, programs etc.. TED is at v1.1 on it.. Hope that helps! - Paul > > Steve > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sat May 28 17:34:15 1994 Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA01684 for ; Sat, 28 May 1994 17:23:49 +0300 Received: from charon2.dundee.ac.uk by pp.dundee.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <23026-1@pp.dundee.ac.uk>; Sat, 28 May 1994 15:20:48 +0100 Received: From ITS/MAILQUEUE by charon2.dundee.ac.uk via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940528151036.768; 28 May 94 15:22:16 +0500 Message-ID: From: STUART MACLEAN Organization: Dundee University To: Paul Reece , preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, Blitz Basic List , Michael Cox Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 15:00:03 GMT Subject: Re: BPR #3 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) X-Status: Status: RO Bonez of the POSSE!!! I saw in one of your letters that you had found ????? commands coming up. Alot of the Blitz Basic 2 PD programs were programmed to include certain external or internal library commands or residential include files (look in the options place). These can be found on the blitzlibs disk. The best suggestion I can give you is to load up the blitz basic program and then use the "Reload All Libs" and then load the programs. If while loading the error cannot find library at $xxxx then program probably requires a library that is not on the blitzlibs. Hope this is of some help. Bonez! All that is Smegged is not Smeghead! From blitz-list-request Tue May 31 13:44:50 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA18327 for ; Tue, 31 May 1994 13:44:14 +0300 From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 11:31:46 +0100 Message-Id: <94053111314593@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> To: J.VALKS@aixserv.hsbos.nl, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: RIBLITZ X-VMS-To: SMTP%"J.VALKS@aixserv.hsbos.nl" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST X-Status: Status: RO With regards to the demo Zoom program in our (mine and sis3147) RIBlitzLibs archive (look in Aminet/Devs/Misc (I think) if you don't have it). You will get the token not found error since Blitz is looking for the other libraries that we have installed in ourcopy but that we haven't made available to everyone yet. The prog should actually compile and run ok since it only uses the FNS library and the FX library. If it doesn't compile then please tell me and I'll get it sorted out.... The other libraries we've written should become available soon (if anyone's interested in them that is). They include: o GFX library - palette commands including things like getting AGA colour values and adjust palette colour with ratios etc. (Note: has anyone else found that the commands Red(colour#), etc. don't work with displays?) o PACK library - unpack IFF's, unpack PackIce 2.40 data files (an Atari ST packer I still use cause I can unpack the data easily and it gives good compression - has anybody got a good ST emulator????), grab palettes from IFF CMAP chunks and store them in palette objects etc. etc. etc...... o and others I can't remember at the moment. Note: trust this to happen straight after the libraries were uploaded and sent out to people but we've updated a couple of libraries by doing bug fixes and extra commands. The updated libraries are Func and FNS. The updates should be available soonish....... Steve Mc. From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 2 13:17:42 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA01639 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:15:59 +0300 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 11:13:07 +0100 Message-Id: <94060211130737@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Steve) To: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: ARexx port for blitz X-VMS-To: SMTP%"M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST X-Status: Status: RO >Does anybody else think that blitz should get an Arexx port on its >compiler? I'd love to use GoldEd for writing my blitz programs, since >I'm getting tired of Ted. Is this possible, and if so, why aren't >Acid doing it???? I don't know if it would be feasible. I mean, have you tried loading a 2000 line ASCII program into Blitz? It takes about 2 minutes to tokenize it. But if say, you could get CygnusEd or GoldEd to send each line as you type/edit it then yeah, I'd say it would be possible. BTW, do you have BUM6 yet? +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Steve Matty from Reflective Images | sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | |==============================================================================| | A1200/340HD/6Mb/Blitz2 | Current Project : AmigaGuide Editor | | | and : Map Editor | \______________________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Fri Jun 3 15:59:32 1994 Received: from inca.gate.net (inca.gate.net [198.80.2.35]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA02535 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 1994 15:59:23 +0300 Received: by inca.gate.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #42) id m0q9Ypk-0004JJC; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:58 EDT Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 08:56:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Scott Subject: Re: sig To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <"21012 Thu Jun 2 14:30:41 1994"@mhs-relay.ac.uk> Message-ID: X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Martin Kift wrote: > > > As for the Map-Ed, well erm. It hasn't actually been started yet. This weekend > > will see the beginning. Do you have any features you would like to see > > implemented? If you like, I'll send the TURBO PLUS Scene Editor to the list, or just to you, its a demo version, written in AMOS (blasphemer!) It has a lot of good features and you could actually use it to make maps for Blitz, I just don't know the format that you'd like icons stored in. The maps are simple, X, Y, ...data... Its very fast and intuitive and has lots of features. I have it uuencoded if anyone wants to check it out... Its also on Aminet as TScene1.lha under AMOS Ryan Scott PLAYFIELD! From blitz-list-request Mon Jun 6 21:35:44 1994 Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA17559 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 21:35:16 +0300 Received: from charon2.dundee.ac.uk by pp.dundee.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <24545-0@pp.dundee.ac.uk>; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:18:39 +0100 Received: From ITS/MAILQUEUE by charon2.dundee.ac.uk via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940606191945.320; 06 Jun 94 19:19:57 +0500 Message-ID: From: STUART MACLEAN Organization: Dundee University To: smatthew@uk03.bull.co.uk (Steve Matthews), blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:19:42 GMT Subject: Re: Blitz 2, some questions! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) X-Status: Status: RO Dear Steve, I have just read your problem with the blitz debugger in the double pal mode. I am programming on a 6MB A4000/30 machine (goody goody goody goody ehhh! enough of that). Anyway I have also set my screen configurasion to dblpal high res no flicker (gets rid of the nasty raster lines that I can see on my monitor). The flicker that appears due to the activation of the debugger in AMIGA mode is the debugger but it does not appear properly. Unfortunately I have not found a way around this but there are to other alternatives. 1) You can put up with the flicker debugger in dblpal mode and the debugger and back to TED by Ctrl-Amiga-C followed by Ctrl-Amiga-Q. 2) The other answer is to boot the amiga up with no-startup-sequence and load blitz basic from CLI and then blitz will run perfectly. I hope this is of some use to you.Bye Bonez. Squiggle Boing WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SPLAT!!!!!!!! From blitz-list-request Mon Jun 6 21:28:55 1994 Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA17317 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 21:28:24 +0300 Received: from charon2.dundee.ac.uk by pp.dundee.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <24652-0@pp.dundee.ac.uk>; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:25:16 +0100 Received: From ITS/MAILQUEUE by charon2.dundee.ac.uk via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940606192622.576; 06 Jun 94 19:26:33 +0500 Message-ID: From: STUART MACLEAN Organization: Dundee University To: Martin Kift , blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:26:12 GMT Subject: Re: Blitz 2, some questions! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) X-Status: Status: RO Dear Martin, I have just read your letter about the map editor. I need a good map editor to work with inside Blitz not the silly one they included along with Blitz. Could tell me when it is ready or send me a copy when it is finished please. Did the protracker support for blitz basic work. I hope it did! Bonez!!!! From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 8 05:07:54 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA09709 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 05:07:46 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id MAA11476; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:11:55 +1000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:11:54 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: BPR #4 To: Jurgen Valks cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <1B75C77BBD@ms1.hsbos.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 31 May 1994, Jurgen Valks wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > NAME : Paul Reece > EMAIL : preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au > PROJECT : Porting my AMOS music extension to Blitz2. > STATUS : Work on it will start tomorrow!! NEWSTATUS : Version 1.2 is COMPLETE!! Features PT routines, Sampling, TFMX and MORE!! If you are interested in BetaTesting, please email me at paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au with your system details etc. and I'll think about it... :) - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 8 05:24:35 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA10257 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 05:24:15 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id MAA11497; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:28:21 +1000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:28:20 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Sender: Paul Reece Reply-To: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Blitz 2, some questions! To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <"420 Mon Jun 6 14:53:41 1994"@mhs-relay.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Martin Kift wrote: > > My Map Editor is 75% finished after only 2 days working on it! > > It supports ANY size blocks (but be sensible, huh?) and works beautifully > > Whoooo, a genius at work!!! 8) > > > AND unlike the Blitz2 Map Editor: > > IT DOESN'T CRASH YOUR MACHINE EVERY TIME YOU RUN IT! > > Look out for this brill prog in the VERY near future and mail me if you have > > any ideas for features of it. > > Nice one! I have already mailed you with suggestions. How soon before > we see it, I'm iching for a decent map editor. > > Mail you, ha! Has anybody successfully mailed you Steve? My > postmaster is still away, so the problem hasn't been looked at yet. I know what the problem is! the machine sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk does not have a DNS MX (Mail Exchange) entry.... In order to fix this, Steve's SYSADMIN would have to add this - Some mail exchanging software (ie. versions of Sendmail) can handle not MX records, but most can't.. (Like the one on my machine!!) > > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | > | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > > - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 8 05:33:35 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA10524 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 05:33:22 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id MAA11519; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:37:04 +1000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:37:03 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: BlitzLibs To: Jonny cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <9406071227.AA02025@ash13> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Jonny wrote: > Hi, > I tried installing the elmore libs in blitz. I tried this > in 2 differnet ways. > 1. Copied elmorelibs to Blitzlibs:Userlibs and then did a reload > all libs from the compile menu on ted. The new elmorelib commands > were available, but the commands in deflibs had gone. > > 2. Tried to join the elmorelibs to the original deflibs file using > the makedseflibs program. But all it did was replace the deflibs in > blitz2: with the elmorelibs. > > So basically I can`t use any of the new librarys with blitz without > first getting rid of the orginal deflibs !? What you need to do is: 1. Get the latest blitzlibs files from BUM6. (in the developers.lha archive) and put them on a disk called BlitzLibs: 2. Delete deflibs and load ALL the libs from your blitzlibs: disk every time you load blitz (I do this) 3. OR use the proggy makedeflibs to make a new deflibs file with the NEW libs in it.. - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 8 11:48:49 1994 Received: from sisvax ([148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA28128 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 11:48:15 +0300 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:38:06 +0100 Message-Id: <94060809380633@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Steve) To: J.VALKS@hsbos.nl, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: BUM6 - errors X-VMS-To: SMTP%"J.VALKS@hsbos.nl" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: >I read the newcommands file and noticed that the Elmore library is now a >part of Blitz2. But, many commands are not included like CheckAGA, but >they are noticed in the newcommands textfile. > >Has everyone this problem? > Yes, the dope basts at ACID decided to not include to library object file for HARDWARE.ELMORE library in the archive, so you have to do a make executable on the source code.... The Refelective Images BlitzLib collection has now been updated : Func.library ============ CopyBank(sourcebank,destbank) ; Copies memory banks! BLoad now has another parameter : success=BLoad(filename$,bank[,length[,offset[,memtype]]]) ; So now you can specify a memory type (e.g. Chip/Fast) ; to load files into... BSave now has an optional length parametr (if you specify a bank, you do not need to specify a length) and thats all I can remember - the new collection should be on Aminet soon, and copies are being sent to ACID. TTFN Steve +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Steve Matty from Reflective Images | sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | |==============================================================================| | A1200/6MB/340MB/FPU/BLITZ2/BUM6 (hoorah!) | | C U R R E N T P R O J E C T S : AmigaGuide Creator (30%) | | : BlitzBombers (99%) | | : Map Editor (85%) | +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 9 04:31:51 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA11040 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 04:29:24 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id LAA15017; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:33:18 +1000 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:33:18 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Suggestions To: Steve cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <94060815384256@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Steve wrote: > Date sent: 8th June 1994 > > A T T E N T I O N ! ! ! ! ! ! ALL BLITZ USERS > > Reflective Images Ltd., has finally run out of ideas for new commands > to add to the Blitz command set. We URGENTLY need suggestions and ideas > for things you want to see in Blitz. DONT DELAY - MAIL US TODAY! > > Things currently implemented : > > Proportional font printing routines (at any X/Y value) > IFF Loading / Unpack from memory (QUICK) > AM*S type memory banks (BLoad/BSave/PLoad) > AM*S type zones > Enhanced joystick handlers (supports 4player adaptor) > Palette commands (e.g. Adjust brightness/Unpack from RAM) > Special Graphics FX (e.g. ZoomX2/ZoomX4/ZoomX8/ZoomXn/Derez) only lowres! > bitmaps ! > Support for Req.library What about a linker??? :) Seriously though, where do you guys get the time to do all of this?? - Paul > > Mail us for ideas/requests: > sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk or blitzlist if you cant get through > and sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk. " " > > > Look at dev/misc for our BETA test library RIBlitzLibsV2.lha on Aminet now! :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri Jun 10 11:15:03 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA24261 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 11:14:18 +0300 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 09:05:49 +0100 Message-Id: <94061009054976@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: RI Blitz Libs X-VMS-To: SMTP%"s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 10-JUN-1994 >G'day all, > Yesterday, I got from FTP the RIBlitzLibs. When going to install >them, it said in the readme file, that you can either copy the >*.objs to the userlibs dir, or use makedeflibs. > > Seeing as I don't have makedeflibs (I gather this is on BUM6 >which I still haven;t got), I went to do the former, but all that >was included in the archive was the *.lib files. If I try to do a >reload all libs with these, i get an out of mem error, even though >I have 2meg chip and 512k fast. > >Can someone (preferably RI), please upload the *.obj files?? > >Thanks in advance > >Dave Hmmm....... Having problems huh? Well never mind 'cause Steve the Great is here to help! The library objects included in the archive were all name .LIB (for some reason, I forget why), these are the objects that you should copy into Blitzlibs:Userlibs/ You should not copy the .DOC files or any example programs into this folder. ReLoad All Libs should then quite happily load the new libraries in. What you might be doing is having folders with programs in them on your Blitzibs: disk (or partition/directory). When you Reload All Libs, Blitz scans all directories in the Blitzlibs: disks and LOADS in the contents of EVERY directory on it. Thus, if you have program files in a folder (e.g. Blitzlibs:Progs/Demo.bb2) these will get installed into Blitz. AND AS A GLOBAL MESSAGE: ======================== Some of you who have BUM6 and our libraries may have noticed a few token clashes between our libraries and some Blitz2 extra ones. Our tokens have now been changed to accommodate the new libraries and we are sending ours to ACID to get officical token numbers. Also, a new archive should be available soon, for all those interested...... Steve Mc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Steve McNamara from Reflective Images | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | |==============================================================================| | Current gripes: My bloody Amiga keeps on crashing and playing up! | | The Blitz Map Editor doesn't have any file descriptions! | |==============================================================================| | A1200/170HD/6Mb/Blitz2 | Current Projects : Map Editor | | | : AmigaGuide editor | \______________________________________________________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Mon Jun 13 17:36:51 1994 Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA20959 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 17:32:34 +0300 Received: from charon2.dundee.ac.uk by pp.dundee.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <11301-0@pp.dundee.ac.uk>; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 15:23:40 +0100 Received: From ITS/MAILQUEUE by charon2.dundee.ac.uk via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940613152455.1664; 13 Jun 94 15:28:16 +0500 Message-ID: From: STUART MACLEAN Organization: Dundee University To: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Steve), blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 15:24:51 GMT Subject: Re: Suggestions Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Bonez of the Posse here!, A good idea for blitz is to make better music and sound support commands for Blitz Basic 2. I have managed to get protracker commands by way of use of the destracker.library but unfortunately this doesn't run inside blitz mode which is most annoying. So my suggestion is to make a protracker player commands that supports up to protracker-3.15 and other commands to give better sound control because this in my opionin is where Blitz Basic lags behind Amos and because alot of musicians use protracker as a basis for making music on it would be a good idea to make a protracker player. Bonez. Jump up and down on a pogo stick and annoy the neighbours. From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 14 04:14:59 1994 Received: from inca.gate.net (inca.gate.net [198.80.2.35]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA14580 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 04:14:44 +0300 Received: (from rscott@localhost) by inca.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA143402; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 21:14:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 21:11:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Scott Subject: Re: Addition of a Blitz Basic 2 area. (fwd) To: Paul Reece cc: Blitz Basic List , Amos List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 14 Jun 1994, Paul Reece wrote: > From: Urban Mueller > Subject: Re: Addition of a Blitz Basic 2 area. > > Is it possible to add an area for Blitz Basic2 programs?? > > ie. /pub/aminet/dev/blitz > I just renamed dev/amos to dev/basic, use that one. We'd like to > keep the number of dirs low. > -Urban I suggest all interested folks write this guy a NICE request, asking that he kindly make a separate directory, or at least dev/basic/amos and dev/basic/blitz. I have - it may help. I don't see what the purpose of keeping the dirs low is, and the time saved not having to pick & choose between a mish mash directory of blitz/amos would be tremendous. AMOS & Blitz are vastly different, just share the BASIC name. Let him know this. NICELY. Ryan Scott PLAYFIELD! From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 14 07:11:08 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA19648 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 07:10:42 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id OAA24586; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 14:14:18 +1000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 14:14:18 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Suggestions To: STUART MACLEAN cc: Steve , blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 13 Jun 1994, STUART MACLEAN wrote: > Bonez of the Posse here!, > A good idea for blitz is to make better music > and sound support commands for Blitz Basic 2. I have managed to get > protracker commands by way of use of the destracker.library but > unfortunately this doesn't run inside blitz mode which is most > annoying. So my suggestion is to make a protracker player commands > that supports up to protracker-3.15 and other commands to give better > sound control because this in my opionin is where Blitz Basic lags > behind Amos and because alot of musicians use protracker as a basis > for making music on it would be a good idea to make a protracker > player. EML supports FULL Protracker Playroutines!! (but not DYN Samples in PT3.15 because there is no available playroutine) - Paul > Bonez. > > Jump up and down on a pogo stick > and annoy the neighbours. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 14 10:59:22 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA29329 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 1994 10:58:51 +0300 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 08:56:53 +0100 Message-Id: <94061408565324@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: J.VALKS@aixserv.hsbos.nl, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Iff loading X-VMS-To: SMTP%"J.VALKS@aixserv.hsbos.nl" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 14-JUN-1994 >Hello, > >Is there a routine available to load a Iff picture faster? It's so slow! >I know a solution is loading the picture as a animation. There is a solution: USE outr PACK library which loads the whole IFF into memory and then unpacks it from there! You could even INCBIN the IFF and unpack it from inside your program file! Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images | | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6Mb/Blitz2 | Current Project : AmigGuide Editor | | A1200/170HD/6Mb/Blitz2 | [::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::] | | | Current Project : Shoot'em-Up | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [#:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Current Project : Map Editor | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [#################################:] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 15 11:42:11 1994 Received: from relay1.pipex.net (relay1.pipex.net [158.43.128.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA27337 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 11:40:15 +0300 Received: from mdis.com by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <01918-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 09:39:33 +0100 Received: from gx2.uk.mdis.com by gate.mdis.com id aa28693; 15 Jun 94 9:39 BST Received: by gx2.uk.mdis.com; Wed, 15 Jun 94 09:39:23 BST Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 09:39:23 BST From: Andy Malcolm To: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Amiga Format compo. Message-ID: <9406150939.aa28693@gate.mdis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO I am a Amiga Format subscriber. When I get this months results I will post them to this list. Also if any entries are featured on the coverdisks as promised by AF, I will add brief reviews of them. -Andy. From blitz-list-request Fri Jun 17 01:50:48 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA10642 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:48:06 +0300 Received: (from preece@localhost) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id IAA01259; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 08:52:00 +1000 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 08:51:59 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Bugs, Bugs, Bugs... To: Nigel Hughes cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <10571.771754686@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 16 Jun 1994, Nigel Hughes wrote: > Hello everybody, > I decided to try and write some of my more useful Blitz functions > into a library yesterday, so I sit down, read the various bits on library writing, I can > already code in 68k (written a full game in it 8) so I think no problems! I was wrong! > > I seem to be upsetting blitz with the following routines! They actualy work as far as > functionality goes, but after using them I get a recoverable alert 0100 000C, which > is I think, exec saying it has a knackered memory list! Just as a control the second > function PCFSize (_pcfsize) which quite simply returns the length of a file, causes > the same things as the very slightly more complex CachePCF (_cachepcf). I get that recoverable alert all of the time.. I think that it's a BUG in Blitz. - Paul > > Could someone please make me look stupid and tell me how I am killing the exec memory > list! Oh and out of interest when I pass 4 as the required memory type to CachePCF > it gurus straight away! So I AM doing something really dumb, it's just that after staring at the > code until 4am, I just cannot see the wood for the trees > > My Flawed Library... > > ;======================; > ; PCF LIBRARY FOR BB2 ; > ;======================; > > #pcflib=40 > > !libheader{#pcflib,0,0,0,0} > > !afunction{#long} > !args{#string,#long} > !libs{#doslib,#la6} > !subs{_cachepcf,0,0} > !name{"CachePCF","File name,Memory Type"} > > !afunction{#long} > !args{#string} > !libs{#doslib,#la6} > !subs{_pcfsize,0,0} > !name{"PCFSize","File Name"} > > !astatement > !args{#long,#long} > !libs > !subs{_freepcfcache,0,0} > !name{"FreePCFCache","Cache Start,Cache Length"} > > !libfin > > _cachepcf > MOVEM.l a3-a6,-(a7) > MOVE.l #0,file_spot > MOVE.l #0,unlock > MOVE.l d0,file_name > MOVE.l d1,memory_type > MOVE.l d0,d1 > MOVE.l #-2,d2 ;shared lock, access read > JSR -$54(a6) ;Lock(name,type)(d1,d2) > CMP.l #0,d0 > BEQ lock_error > MOVE.l d0,file_lock > MOVE.l #$e0,d0 > MOVE.l #0,d1 > ALibJsr $c002 ;Allocate memory for a file > BEQ ma_error1 > MOVE.l d0,file_info > MOVE.l file_lock,d1 > MOVE.l d0,d2 > JSR -$66(a6) ;Examine(lock,info buffer)(d1,d2) > BEQ examine_error > MOVE.l file_info,a0 > MOVE.l $7c(a0),d0 ;How long is the file > MOVE.l d0,file_size > MOVE.l memory_type,d1 ;Ready to allocate all memory > ALibJsr $c002 > BEQ ma_error2 > MOVE.l d0,file_spot ;store the address > MOVE.l file_lock,d1 > JSR -$17a(a6) ;OpenFromLock(lock)(d1) > MOVE.l d0,file_hand ;our new handle for the file > CMP.l #0,d0 > BNE continue ;Open OK no need to unlock > > file_error: > MOVE.l file_spot,a1 ;could not open file, need to free memory > MOVE.l file_size,d0 ;then the lock > ALibJsr $c003 > MOVE.l #0,file_spot ;no memory carried over > > BRA ma_error2 ;Carry on as if no memory was allocated > > > continue: > MOVE.l #1,unlock ;no need to unlock now > MOVE.l d0,d1 > MOVE.l file_spot,d2 > MOVE.l file_size,d3 > JSR -$2a(a6) ;Read(file,buffer,length)(d1,d2,d3) > MOVE.l d0,read_error ;save any error number > > ;Everything went OK free the file handle > > MOVE.l file_hand,d1 ;start tidying up > JSR -$24(a6) ;Close(file)(d1) > MOVE.l read_error,d0 ;now lets check the read was OK > CMP.l #-1,d0 > BNE ma_error2 ;There was NO ERROR in reading > > ;AN ERROR MUST FREE MEMORY > MOVE.l file_spot,a1 ;could not read file, need to free memory > MOVE.l file_size,d0 ;then the lock > ALibJsr $c003 > MOVE.l #0,file_spot ;no memory carried over > > ma_error2: ;Unable to allocate memory for file > ;Nothing to do but move on > > examine_error: ;Could not look at lock but still must free memory > MOVE.l file_info,a1 > MOVE.l #$e0,d0 > ALibJsr $c003 ;Free file info memory > > ma_error1: ;Could not even get memory for file info! > ;But must free the lock IF it was not opened > MOVE.l unlock,d0 > CMP.l #1,d0 > BEQ lock_error ;no need to relinquish lock > MOVE.l file_lock,d1 > JSR -$5a(a6) ;Unlock(Lock)(d1) > > lock_error: ;No lock no bloody nothing! > > ok: > MOVEM.l (a7)+,a3-a6 > MOVE.l file_spot,d0 ;every thing went OK! give the user the pointer to the cache > RTS > > ;RETURN THE SIZE OF A FILE > > _pcfsize > MOVEM.l a3-a6,-(a7) > MOVE.l d0,d1 > MOVE.l #-2,d2 ;shared lock, access read > JSR -$54(a6) ;Lock(name,type)(d1,d2) > CMP.l #0,d0 > BEQ size_lock_error > MOVE.l d0,file_lock > MOVE.l #0,file_size > MOVE.l #$e0,d0 > MOVE.l #0,d1 > ALibJsr $c002 ;Allocate memory for a file > BEQ size_ma_error1 > MOVE.l d0,file_info > MOVE.l file_lock,d1 > MOVE.l d0,d2 > JSR -$66(a6) ;Examine(lock,info buffer)(d1,d2) > BEQ size_examine_error > MOVE.l file_info,a0 > MOVE.l $7c(a0),d0 ;How long is the file > MOVE.l d0,file_size > > size_examine_error: ;Could not look at lock but still must free memory > MOVE.l file_info,a1 > MOVE.l #$e0,d0 > ALibJsr $c003 ;Free file info memory > > size_ma_error1: ;Could not even get memory for file info! > ;But must free the lock IF it was not opened > MOVE.l file_lock,d1 > JSR -$5a(a6) ;Unlock(Lock)(d1) > > size_lock_error: ;No lock no bloody nothing! > > size_ok: > MOVEM.l (a7)+,a3-a6 > MOVE.l file_size,d0 ;every thing went OK! > RTS > > > > file_name: Dc.l 0 > file_lock: Dc.l 0 > file_info: Dc.l 0 > file_size: Dc.l 0 > file_spot: Dc.l 0 > file_hand: Dc.l 0 > unlock: Dc.l 0 > memory_type: Dc.l 0 > read_error: Dc.l 0 > > _freepcfcache: > MOVEA.l d0,a1 > MOVE.l d1,d0 > ALibJsr $c003 > RTS > > size_ma_error1: ;Could not even get memory for file info! > ;But must free the lock IF it was not opened > MOVE.l file_lock,d1 > JSR -$5a(a6) ;Unlock(Lock)(d1) > > size_lock_error: ;No lock no bloody nothing! > > size_ok: > MOVEM.l (a7)+,a3-a6 > MOVE.l file_size,d0 ;every thing went OK! > RTS > > > > file_name: Dc.l 0 > file_lock: Dc.l 0 > file_info: Dc.l 0 > file_size: Dc.l 0 > file_spot: Dc.l 0 > file_hand: Dc.l 0 > unlock: Dc.l 0 > memory_type: Dc.l 0 > read_error: Dc.l 0 > > _freepcfcache: > MOVEA.l d0,a1 > MOVE.l d1,d0 > ALibJsr $c003 > RTS > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Mon Jun 20 13:02:24 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA21206 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 13:01:29 +0300 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:56:30 +0100 Message-Id: <94062010563039@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: c9108939@sol.newcastle.edu.au, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: the anim lib X-VMS-To: SMTP%"c9108939@sol.newcastle.edu.au" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 20-JUN-1994 > > Hi, > I've being having some funny effects using the > anim lib in blitz. > The anims do not seem to uncompact properly giving chunky > results with missing colours. I just was writing a small prog > that converts an anim file to a series of sterogram pics. > (using the algorithm posted by Ramon Macia :) ) > Then loading them back into dpaint for some interesting > effects ! > > The first 2 frames are fine using initanim. > But NextFrame seem dodgy , I tryed compressed and > uncompressed anims. > Anyway I thought I got it to play an anim properly 6 mths ago > so this it bizarre I must be doing something wrong! > Oh well bye. > Brett The animations are double buffered and are delta compressed. This means that you must make sure that you're showing the next frame of animtion on the correct bitmap. If you use the wrong bitmap the delta decompression will be incorrect (delta compression stores the differences between frames in an animation. The compression in IFF Anims is wierd in that the data for the 3rd frame in the anim holds the changes to get from the 1st frame to the 3rd - not from the 2nd to the 3rd). +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Blitz2 is too darn buggy | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6Mb/33FPU/Blitz | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | A1200/170HD/6Mb/Blitz2 | [###############:] [#########::::::] | | | Current Project : RI Libs v3 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [##################################] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Current Project : Map Editor | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [#################################:] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Mon Jun 20 13:10:30 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA21644 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 13:09:58 +0300 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 11:00:55 +0100 Message-Id: <94062011005550@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: nlh1@aber.ac.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: General Stuff X-VMS-To: SMTP%"nlh1@aber.ac.uk" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 20-JUN-1994 > >Hi There! > I have version 3 of your libraries from Aminet, but do you have the intui library up >and running yet? If you do I would very grateful if you could mail a copy. Many Thanks > > We are just putting the finishing touches to both the tooltypes library and the intuition library TODAY. We will hopefully be uploading them to Aminet this afternoon. The two libraries include commands to: Interrogate tooltypes Set tooltypes Create AppMenuItems (upto 16 of them) Create AppIcons (upto 16 of them) Create AppWindows (upto 16 of them) We are going to be testing the libraries and making a few changes to them today, as well as getting full docs and example programs sorted out. The libraries will probably be uploaded under the filename: /dev/basic/RIBlitzLibsV3.1.lha (or something like that). As a bonus, this archive will contain an update to the Zone-Joy library that lets you have upto 16 different lists of zones, each with upto 65536 zones in them! Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Blitz2 is too darn buggy | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6Mb/33FPU/Blitz | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | A1200/170HD/6Mb/Blitz2 | [###############:] [#########::::::] | | | Current Project : RI Libs v3 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [##################################] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Current Project : Map Editor | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [#################################:] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Mon Jun 20 15:48:11 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA00924 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:46:19 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:45:59 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:45:27 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:45:26 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:47:31 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:46:31 +0300 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:46:31 +0300 X400-Originator: rnms%molecular-studies.biology.cambridge.ac.uk@pp-switch.cambridge.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Message-ID: To: HANG-FIRE Cc: c9108939@sol.newcastle.edu.au, blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <94062010563039@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> Subject: Re: the anim lib Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO I would be greatful for some further details of the stereogram algorithm that you mentioned, if possible. all the best Richard PS I'm having to mail via the list as I do not seem to be able to contact you directly. R From blitz-list-request Mon Jun 20 17:36:18 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA06143 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 17:35:48 +0300 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:30:21 +0100 Message-Id: <94062015302080@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: general X-VMS-To: SMTP%"M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 20-JUN-1994 >> The libs are now finished and are being uploaded to Aminet in about >> 10 minutes! Look under /dev/misc/RIBlitzLibsV3.1.lha > >What about the map editor? > Martin, we have ATTEMPTED to upload the libs onto ftp.wustl.edu but the bllody machine just seemed to lockup and wouldn't do anything. Thus, we have not been able to upload them yet. I have on me a UUE encoded file with the libs in it. Do you want me to mail it to you (its about 32k) - note: I will not (hopefully) be here for much longer so if you want it today you'd better be quick. The Map Editor is archived and waiting to be uploaded. Unfortunately I don't have it UUEed so you can't have it today. Hopefully we'll be able to upload everything into /dev/basic very soon. (PS: Why am I mailing this to the list? What a waste of peoples time this message is....) Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Blitz2 is too darn buggy | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6Mb/33FPU/Blitz | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | A1200/170HD/6Mb/Blitz2 | [###############:] [###############] | | | Finished Project : RI Libs v3 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [##################################] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Finished Project : Map Editor | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [##################################] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 21 05:08:04 1994 Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi (finhutc.hut.fi [130.233.224.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA00478 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 05:07:49 +0300 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8411; Tue, 21 Jun 94 05:07:35 EET Received: from VM1.MCGILL.CA (NJE origin MAILER@MCGILL1) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8408; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 05:07:34 +0200 Received: from MUSICB.MCGILL.CA by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4496; Mon, 20 Jun 94 22:06:52 EDT Resent-Message-Id: <20JUN94.23883101.0071.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 94 22:06:50 EDT Resent-From: "GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR" Resent-To: Received: by MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (MUSIC Mailer V2.4.2); Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:28:08 EDT Received: from MCGILL1 by VM1.MCGILL.CA (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 9514; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:28:05 EDT Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk by VM1.MCGILL.CA (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:27:39 EDT Received: from rockall.cent.gla.ac.uk by jess.glasgow.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <16342-0@jess.glasgow.ac.uk>; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:24:50 +0100 Received: from lenzie (lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.34.18] sender gois02) by rockall (8.6.9/UK-2.2a/rockall) with ESMTP id QAA22257 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:23:48 +0100 Message-Id: <4455.199406201523@lenzie> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:23:44 +0100 From: Alastair Bishop Received: (from gois02@localhost sender gois02) by lenzie (8.6.9/UK-2.2a/cent-sparc) id QAA04455 for BB4H@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:23:44 +0100 To: BB4H@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA Subject: Re: Blitz Basic X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO --------------------------- Original Message --------------------------- Hello Mr. Mig (?) blitz-list@helsinki.fi is where you should send your posts to the list. blitz-list-request@helsinki.fi is where you should first send a polite request to be added to the mailing list. If this is all obvious, then apologies - I wasn't trying to patronise ;-) BBFN Ali Bish (-: From blitz-list-request Mon Jun 20 17:43:40 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA06519 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 17:43:24 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 17:43:01 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 17:42:01 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 17:41:59 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 18:44:02 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 18:43:01 +0300 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 18:43:01 +0300 X400-Originator: rnms%molecular-studies.biology.cambridge.ac.uk@pp-switch.cambridge.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Message-ID: To: HANG-FIRE Cc: c9108939@sol.newcastle.edu.au, blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <94062010563039@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> Subject: Re: the anim lib Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hi, sorry for the misunderstanding - I wrongly took your address from your reply to Brett & not from his original mailing. All the best Richard. By the way, I am still having to mail to the list to get in touch with you (ie not direct) From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 21 02:33:41 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA26069 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 02:33:18 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA25636; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:37:05 +1000 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:37:05 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Amiga Format competition To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <"25893 Mon Jun 20 14:31:47 1994"@mhs-relay.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: A Status: RO On Mon, 20 Jun 1994, Martin Kift wrote: > > And the winners are.... > > > > The author of the clown game (as found on BUM6) - sorry > > I have forgotten your name. > > > > and I can't remember 2nd place either! > > > WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > That was a piece of shite!!!!!!!!!! > > I smell a conspiracy here.... I totally agree.. That game was utter CRAP! (and I got it to guru a fair few times too.. And what about the 'FANTASTIC' music?? NOT!) Sounds like someone has been paid off!! :-) > > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | > | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > | Formula One GrandPrix amiga internet champion for 1994. | > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 21 15:05:04 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA23155 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:54:42 +0300 Received: from decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk (actually decb.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:54:23 +0100 Received: by decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk (5.65/aberclient-4.0) id AA06786; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:54:20 +0100 Message-Id: <9406211154.AA06786@decb.aber.ac.uk.aber.ac.uk> From: mhr@aber.ac.uk (Mike) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:54:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: DJ Linsley G7RAW "Clown Game" (Jun 21, 1:04pm) Header: Words of wisdom are as follows:- X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: DJ Linsley G7RAW , Blitz Basic Mailing List Subject: Re: Clown Game MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO On Jun 21, 1:04pm, DJ Linsley G7RAW wrote: > Subject: Clown Game > Why is everyone slagging this game off? The gfx and sfx were not upto > much, but at least the gameplay was very addictive - reminds me of a game > I have for my Dragon, and also Boffin on the BBC/Electron. IMHO because it wasn't a demonstration of what Blitz could do - the same game could have been written in AMOS or possibly even Amiga BASIC. Its kinda worrying, was this the best game that the AF readers came up with ? At least Amiga Power's `Charlie Chimp' had a halfway professional air to it, this just sucked. As for being addictive, hmmmm no Megaball is much better and a damn sight more stable. Mike. You can reach Mike Richards at the following /@\ \|/ address ... (if you're that desperate). `-\ \ ______ - 0 - \ \/ ` / \ /|\ _ mhr@aber.ac.uk \_i / \ |\____// | |==| |=----/ ---- Why not drop me a line ...? -------------------hn/--hn/----------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jun 21 15:45:16 1994 Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA25728 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 15:44:51 +0300 Received: from charon2.dundee.ac.uk by pp.dundee.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <06182-4@pp.dundee.ac.uk>; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:40:53 +0100 Received: From ITS/MAILQUEUE by charon2.dundee.ac.uk via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940621132538.2400; 21 Jun 94 13:46:25 +0500 Message-ID: From: STUART MACLEAN Organization: Dundee University To: Nigel Hughes , blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:16:41 GMT Subject: Re: General Stuff Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi > Subject: General Stuff > Date sent: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 10:03:27 +0100 > From: Nigel Hughes > Hello again, > Am I being a pain yet? Don't answer that Martin 8) > > OK a few things, > > 1) Where the hell is makedeflibs? I cannot find it on my BUM6 > disks, can anyone mail it to me? I think the makedeflibs program is located in on the BlitzLibs disk of blitz basic 2. I don't know if your version of blitz basic came with servral lha files on tyhe blitzlibs disk if they have then de- lha them and look in libtools directory and not on BUM6. Bonez. > > 2) Steve, the new RIB libraries are excellent but where is the intui > lib? I'm gagging for it 8) > > 3) How does one access objects in blitz libraries, for example > if I am passed a bitmap number, how do I address that bitmap > object? > > 4) Thanks for any help with my other question 8) > > > Nigel Hughes > From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 22 04:26:44 1994 Received: from inca.gate.net (inca.gate.net [198.80.2.35]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA23634 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 1994 04:26:33 +0300 Received: (from rscott@localhost) by inca.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA47988; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:26:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:22:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Scott Subject: Re: Tranzwarp (complaint) To: Graham Kennedy cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 22 Jun 1994, Graham Kennedy wrote: > > To Stuart Maclean, AKA Bones of the Posse. > > Thank you so much for ditching a 2Meg file into my mailbox via Blitzlist. > I really appreciate it when people do that, you want to show off a demo, > fine stick it on FTP otherwise don't lumber the rest of us. I'm sure it's > wonderful but talking as one who has just had to a) pay the cost of a call > which lasted 20 times longer than it should, b) had to pay connect time to > retrieve it and c) is just about to try and recover his OLR message base. I > really don't give a flying toss if it's the best thing since sliced bread. If I didn't work for my internet provider, I'd be very pissed. As it stands my provider is overburdened and having to wait for that damn message to come up was a damn waste. Didn't even say what the hell it was. > I'm sure its great having a free .ac. internet connection, but suckers > like me have to pay. Sure your probably thinking what a boring fart I am > for complaining, but who gives a damn. When you joined this list I'm sure > you got the same note as myself, remember the bit about only uploading small > files. Or do you rate 2meg as small, I can just see the poor buggers with > 2400 modems (yes they do exist) cheering you along. Lets wait 'til you get a > non .ac. account, see how you like it. > > To, whoever is looking after this list at present. > > This is the sort of thing that kills a list, dump a few files of this size > onto someones mailbox and you'll have people resigning by the bucket load. like me, please unsubscribe me, I know this is the 3rd time I've asked for it. > To, everyone else. > C'mon guys, this was set up so we could all talk over Blitz (possible the > best language in Amigadom) well... I dunno about that ;-) > lets stick to the chat, and avoid this sort of > upload. If you don't like my views, tell me I'll switch to BBS blitz echo's > and resign from here, I'm sure I'll only be the first, all it will mean is > fewer people to answer the questions. > > Truly p***ed off agreed. From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 22 14:46:49 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA15972 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 1994 14:46:06 +0300 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 12:40:32 +0100 Message-Id: <94062212403258@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: J.VALKS@hsbos.nl, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: RI Mapeditor X-VMS-To: SMTP%"J.VALKS@hsbos.nl" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 22-JUN-1994 >I downloaded this util yesterday, but...When I run it I get a lowres >screen and all the buttons are mixed up. I can't do anything in the >pulldown menu's and afther a while my computer hangs... > >Anybody else this problem? Any suggestions Steve? > APOLOGY TIME: I was in such a rush to get the program finished that I forgot that it attempts to load and use a amiga font called NewTopaz.8. If you haven't got this font the program fill bugger up. If you haven't got it do this: copy the Topaz.font and Topaz folder onto your ram disk, rename them to NewTopaz.font and NewTopaz and then copy them back onto your FONTS: partition or directory. Sorry about this big cock-up. If anyone wants tha actual NewTopaz font (it is proportional and looks much better than the standard font) them mail me and I'll mail it to you. Note on the MapEditor: for some reason, after a couple of times running the program a recoverable alert comes up. I have not managed to trace this bug down as yet, if anyone can find out what causes the program to alert then please mail me! Any new features to add to the prog (especially you Jurgen)? Mail me now. Haven't got the editor yet? Download it from /dev/basic/ now! Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Blitz2 is too darn buggy | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6Mb/33FPU/Blitz | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | A1200/170HD/6Mb/Blitz2 | [###############:] [###############] | | | Finished Project : RI Libs v3 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [##################################] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Finished Project : Map Editor | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [##################################] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Sun Jun 26 09:39:11 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA29154 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 09:38:44 +0300 Received: from mdw062.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-8 #6430) id <01HE06JLU7W093F4GB@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 16:38:07 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw062.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.4) id QAA15337; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 16:38:05 +1000 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 16:37:19 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: your mail In-reply-to: To: Dave Wallace Cc: blitz Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Sat, 25 Jun 1994, Dave Wallace wrote: > does bb run under 1.3 as well as 3.0? > > and > > can I try the add-on libraries from Aminet with the demo version? > > I'm running BB under 3.0 without any problems (editor even detects screen mode that you're using) Maciek. From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 29 01:40:53 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA09039 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 1994 01:40:45 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA07131; Wed, 29 Jun 1994 08:44:39 +1000 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 08:44:38 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: HELP! To: Steve cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <94062815234581@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 28 Jun 1994, Steve wrote: > Date sent: 28-JUN-1994 > > > Here's a question for ya...... > > > Does anyone know of a way to section code inside blitz so that > an INCBIN specifically means INCBIN into CHIPRAM like the > > SECTION mystuff,data_c > > in 68k? > > Steve. Impossible.. Blitz2 creates programs in 1 hunk, so there is no way to have parts of the program relocated to different parts of ram... According to some discussion on the AmigaNet Blitz2 echo, the inclusion of hunks might be a future addition.. - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 29 15:56:29 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA10794 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:55:13 +0300 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 13:52:48 +0100 Message-Id: <94062913524795@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Floppy-disk support problem X-VMS-To: SMTP%"M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 29-JUN-1994 >Hi all, > >I'm having enormous difficulties getting floppy-disk support coded >for my game (which works in blitz mode). > >Basically, when I know the game requires the second disk, I jump into >qamiga mode and use the exists function to check for a file I know is >only on the second disk (theres probably much better ways to do it, >if so, let me know please 8^) > >Anyway, so you have code like this: > >if Exists("filename")=0 > ; Ask user to change disk and press space > ; Then continue to check until file is found >endif > >Anyway, my game simply stops at the Exists function call, and I think >what is happening is that a requestor box is popping up on the >workbench screen (just a guess), but I cannot jump back to it since >I'm running in blitz mode (well, qamiga mode under blitz, but you >know what I mean). > >In BUM5, it gives a statement which supposedly turns off this >requestor (it looks dangerous to me anyway), but I tried this and it >makes no difference. > >So, can anybody help me. I need to solve this quickly, since its >holding up the release of the demo of my game. > >PLEASE HELP!! 8) If you have the Elmore library (or libraries as its been split up), you can use a command called ShowRequesters. This commands allows you to switch off requesters such as Please Insert Volume etc. You should switch them off just before you call you Exists() and then switch them back on again afterwards. Exists() will now return true or false straight away. If you haven't got the Elmore lib then mail me back and I'll try and send you it. Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Someones spotted a T.T. bug!| |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6MB/Blitz2 | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | | [###############!] [###############] | | | Finished Project : RI Libs v3.2 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [###########################:::::::] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Finished Project : Map Editor v1.1 | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [######################::::::::::::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Wed Jun 29 16:15:43 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA11815 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 1994 16:15:18 +0300 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 14:11:14 +0100 Message-Id: <94062914111403@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: j.valks@hsbos.nl, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Shapes X-VMS-To: SMTP%"j.valks@hsbos.nl" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 29-JUN-1994 >I never use animations for games. But I want to use one as a intro >for my comming game Hero 2094..I don't know the difference between >those animation formats.. For the people out there who don't know: Anim5: this is a basic byte run packed, delta compressed Anim format. It is widely used and is the format that DPaint uses. Compression is good but playback speeds can suffer with big, colourful animations. Anim7: there are to different ways anim7's can be done: either word compression or longword compression. the main feature of anim7's is that they unpack a lot faster than Anim5 since they are packed on words and longwords rather than bytes. Typically, they are a fair bit bigger than Anim5's but big anims, like 256 colour high res anims NEED the reduced unpacking time that Anim7's give. My anim player supports at the moment: Anim5 and Anim7 (word and longword). Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Someones spotted a T.T. bug!| |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6MB/Blitz2 | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | | [###############!] [###############] | | | Finished Project : RI Libs v3.2 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [###########################:::::::] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Finished Project : Map Editor v1.1 | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [######################::::::::::::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 30 01:34:53 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au ([147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA06002 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 01:34:07 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA04098; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 08:37:58 +1000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 08:37:57 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Blitz objects To: "Ott M. Aaloe" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <14DEE7E78EA@microlnk.ml.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Ott M. Aaloe wrote: > Hi all! > > Does anybody know if it's possible to define objects by hand... > ..erm... I mean if I for example use LoadMedModule command > then blitz automatically creates a medmodule object for me. > But is it possible to define this object by myself: > I alloc some mem, do some Bloading and then now as I have > the pointer to my memory bank containg the med module > can I somehow define this bank as medmodule object now? > Any help is welcome! Thanx! There is actually an undocumented command called: CludgeMedModule That will most likely be able to help you... Use the viewlibs program on one of the BUMS to have a look - There are some nice surprises! - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 30 11:44:47 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA26483 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 11:44:40 +0300 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:41:26 +0100 Message-Id: <94063009412625@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Opening Intuition Screens... X-VMS-To: SMTP%"preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 30-JUN-1994 > >I have a question.... > >How can you open an intuition screen without it popping to the front as >soon as you open it?? It makes an utter pain out of loading a picture in >the background etc.. Can the screen be made invisible automatically so >you can then display it after you have got it ready?? There should be a flag that you can set when opening a screen which causes the screen to open in the background. This is documented in the Amiga Include files, if you like I can go home and try and find out what the flag is - I could probably mail you the info tomorrow. In the meantime, could you use hidescreen to quickly move the screen to the back after opening it? I'm not sure if there is a hidescreen command, what you might have to do is a ScreenToBack_(peek.l(addr screeen(0))). Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Someones spotted a T.T. bug!| |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6MB/Blitz2 | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | | [###############!] [###############] | | | Finished Project : RI Libs v3.2 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [###########################:::::::] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Finished Project : Map Editor v1.1 | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [######################::::::::::::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Thu Jun 30 12:22:36 1994 Received: from relay1.pipex.net (relay1.pipex.net [158.43.128.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA28099 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 12:22:20 +0300 Received: from mdis.com by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <02378-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Thu, 30 Jun 1994 10:21:37 +0100 Received: from gx2.uk.mdis.com by gate.mdis.com id aa04649; 30 Jun 94 10:21 BST Received: by gx2.uk.mdis.com; Thu, 30 Jun 94 10:21:24 BST Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 10:21:24 BST From: Andy Malcolm To: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Books et al Cc: amalcolm@mdis.com Message-ID: <9406301021.aa04649@gate.mdis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Hi Martin, I bought the Libraries and Includes/Autodocs RKM's recently and the Libraries manual is very good, from what I've read the manual is v.well written and goes into a lot of detail about all aspects of programming the amiga. It does assume a knowledge of 'C' or assembler programming, esp 'C' (which the amiga O.S is largely written in). Also the libraries manual has a large number of pieces of example code which is available on fish disks #741 and #742 (most examples are in 'C'). The Includes / Autodocs RKM is really little more than a indexed listing of the include files. It would be useful to a serious programmer as you can look in their instead of hunting around on the machine. I do not know what the hardware manual is like, judging by the Libraries manual it should be comprehensive. However the release 3 of the libraries manual is based around OS 2.x which is o.k but whether a hardware manual would be up to date with AGA is debatable. Finally these manuals are not cheap #38.99 each. I got mine from Hisoft U.K on 0525 718181. They seemed able to answer some technical queries I gave them, so ring them about the hardware manual. I hope some of this helps -Andy. +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Andy Malcolm + + Comms Group - Product Development + + MDIS - McDonnell Information Systems. + + email amalcolm@uk.mdis.com + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+" From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 1 01:37:48 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA18851 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 1994 01:37:12 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA08648; Fri, 1 Jul 1994 08:41:01 +1000 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 08:41:00 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Opening Intuition Screens... To: HANG-FIRE cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <94063009412625@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, HANG-FIRE wrote: > Date sent: 30-JUN-1994 > > > > >I have a question.... > > > >How can you open an intuition screen without it popping to the front as > >soon as you open it?? It makes an utter pain out of loading a picture in > >the background etc.. Can the screen be made invisible automatically so > >you can then display it after you have got it ready?? > > There should be a flag that you can set when opening a screen which causes the > screen to open in the background. This is documented in the Amiga Include > files, if you like I can go home and try and find out what the flag is - I > could probably mail you the info tomorrow. Thanks.. I couldn't see it in the include files when I had a look.. I was half asleep though.. ;-) > In the meantime, could you use hidescreen to quickly move the screen to the > back after opening it? I'm not sure if there is a hidescreen command, what you > might have to do is a ScreenToBack_(peek.l(addr screeen(0))). There is a hidescreen.. The screen flicks up and then off though... Anyone think that a amiprefs library is worthwhile?? If so, I'll start on one.. (I've been tossing the idea around). It will allow you to alter some parameters of the current preferences.. (ie. change pointer etc..) - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 1 05:14:40 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA24737 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 1994 05:14:13 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA08953; Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:18:04 +1000 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:18:03 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: For Steve McNamara actually To: Neil Miller cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO > The problem is that as soon as you bring screen 1 to the front of screen > 0 so that it is partly hiding screen 0, all other screens dissapear! Even > though screen 1 is only 40 pixels in height! I need the screens to > overlap to hide text updates happening on screen 0. Is this a problem in > Blitz? A normal thing in intuition? Or me stuffing up? ;-) Sorry.. Its an intuition problem.. Anything BELOW a screen is always blank... Notice how if you open a screen of say, 40pixels high, it doesn't show Workbench or Blitz2 on the bottom half.. This is intuition at work.. It's a real pain. You would have to use Blitz mode and slices to do what you want to do... - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 3 19:31:48 1994 Received: from nwnexus.wa.com (nwnexus.wa.com [192.135.191.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA01927 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 1994 19:30:36 +0300 Received: from golden.ncw.net ([199.79.131.1]) by nwnexus.wa.com with SMTP id AA16721 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sun, 3 Jul 1994 09:29:08 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 09:24:25 -700 (PDT) From: Joel Corn Subject: Re: exec To: MyxxMatch@cup.portal.com Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <9407030820.1.25465@cup.portal.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darksoft@golden.ncw.net X-Status: Status: RO On Sun, 3 Jul 1994 MyxxMatch@cup.portal.com wrote: > What is the command EXEC? > I am looking for a way to execute external programs or send DOS > commands and someone suggested this command. > Is it documented in BUM 6? > I just bought Blitz about two weeks ago and the issues were 1-5. You must be referring to the dos.library Execute command. First of all, get the RKM's (Rom Kernal Manuals). At the very least get the Includes&Autodocs and the Libraries. These two alone should be able to answer a lot of your questions. Now, how to execute external programs or send DOS commands. Like so: command$="List DF0:"+CHR$(0) <--- Your command must be a string terminated w/CHR$(0). This is known as a NULL-terminated string Execute_ &command$,0,0 <--- This is what does it. Execute_ , and this is how you type it in Blitz, has 3 parameters. Parameter 1 is the command string. Think of it as a line you'd type in a CLI. Parameters 2 and 3 are the input and output file handles. You can leave these at 0 if you don't want to interact with or see results from the Execute_ command. There's another command, for 2.0 and above, called SystemTagList_ , which is more advanced than Execute_, but get the RKM's FIRST! Let me know if you need more help with this. > And one last thing...What is this TextEntryGadget I just read about? > It sounds like just the thing I need for something I am writing. > Thanx all... Where did you just read about it? If it's gadtools, yep, it's there. Read BUM#5 or get the RKM's. What are you trying to do? Joel ***************************************************************************** * Joel A. Corn - Owner/Head Programmer darksoft@golden.ncw.net * * DarkSoft Computers/DarkSoftWare 1-509-886-0581 * ***************************************************************************** From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 04:04:26 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA15980 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 04:04:06 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA19279; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 11:07:26 +1000 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 11:07:26 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: EMLPlayer1.2 To: Richard Wiffen cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <01HE73KRQOQAAZVQS4@cc.curtin.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, Richard Wiffen wrote: > NICE!!! I want those libs!!! :) > > Much better than the crappy routines which come with Blitz. Thankyou.. :) > Only problem I had was that, after playing a number of modules, Workbench > would tell me I had about 1.5M free, but I kept getting Recoverable Alerts. > When I checked with 'avail', it told me the largest block size was about > 20-30 k! It looks like the EML libs are fragmenting my memory! > (BTW, I'm using a 1200 with HD, no fastmem). > > BTW, could someone in Oz tell me an address for Ratbyte Software? I was told > that's where to send my registration card. I need my new BUM! :) > (And do I need to send money with it?) I can't remember the address off hand, but I have it.. I'll send it to you tomorrow... I've also had the problem you stated above.. Looks like a bug in Blitz though because I'm allocating memory with the blitz routines... I get those awful alerts ALL of the time.. - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 04:06:15 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA16092 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 04:05:51 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA19300; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 11:09:50 +1000 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 11:09:50 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Ideas for Steve To: "GEORGAKAKIS, LOUIS, MR" cc: blitz-list@HELSINKI.FI In-Reply-To: <03JUL94.10923523.0233.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Sun, 3 Jul 1994, GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR wrote: > Steve: > > You asked what programming ideas we had for libraries? Well, to tell > you the truth, I would very much like to have a Tracker library for > ProTracker if that is possible. The source code for ProTracker > player (called PROP) is floating around everywhere, maybe you can > get that and use most of THAT code to make the library (it's in > assembler by the way). > > Well, in any case, we need better MODULE compatibility!! Tis already done by myself!! Have a look at EMLPlayer... :) - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 04:16:09 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA16395 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 04:15:59 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA07391 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 4 Jul 1994 11:15:40 -1000 Message-Id: <199407042115.AA07391@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: Re: EMLPlayer1.2 To: preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au (Paul Reece) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 11:13:17 +1000 (EST) Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: from "Paul Reece" at Jul 4, 94 11:07:26 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > > On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, Richard Wiffen wrote: > > > NICE!!! I want those libs!!! :) > > > > Much better than the crappy routines which come with Blitz. > > Thankyou.. :) > > > Only problem I had was that, after playing a number of modules, Workbench > > would tell me I had about 1.5M free, but I kept getting Recoverable Alerts. > > When I checked with 'avail', it told me the largest block size was about > > 20-30 k! It looks like the EML libs are fragmenting my memory! > > (BTW, I'm using a 1200 with HD, no fastmem). > > > > BTW, could someone in Oz tell me an address for Ratbyte Software? I was told > > that's where to send my registration card. I need my new BUM! :) > > (And do I need to send money with it?) > > I can't remember the address off hand, but I have it.. I'll send it to you > tomorrow... here tis. Ratbyte Software c/o Roy Hurley Box 1420 Woolongong N.S.W. 2500 Aust BTW I need to do o ROL in blitz How do I use the assembler registers to do a ROL of 4 bits on a byte. ta Tom Duncan duncan@usq.edu.au > > I've also had the problem you stated above.. Looks like a bug in Blitz > though because I'm allocating memory with the blitz routines... I get those > awful alerts ALL of the time.. > > - Paul > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// > Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b > | __ | > preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 05:57:47 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id FAA18918 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 05:57:26 +0300 Received: from mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-8 #6430) id <01HEB55273U893HIT9@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Mon, 04 Jul 1994 12:56:52 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id MAA05255; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 12:56:50 +1000 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 1994 12:53:28 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: TextEntry problem In-reply-to: <199407042202.AA08307@zeus> To: tom duncan Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 4 Jul 1994, tom duncan wrote: > Hi all, > Having a couple of problems. > > 1. Text Entry program by Mark Tiffany > I have a few Token messed up. > Any ideas were these come from. I thought by blitzlibs were up-to-date > > USEPATH TextEntryInfo > t$=StripTrail$(t$,Asc(" ")) > ot$=t$ > If \Winw>????? Then \Winw=????? > If \Winh>????? Then \Winh=????? > If \Winx+\Winw>????? Then \Winx=?????-\Winw > If \Winy+\Winh>????? Then \Winy=?????-\Winh > ??????? - Means that a token is not found. It happened to me when I tried running a program for which library was not installed. > > 2. ROL > I need to do a 4 bit ROL and havn't a clue on setting up the registers. > Any ideas anyone. No need to. All you have to do is a ROL 4 <- this will rotate a 4 times to the left. You may have to use a=a ROL 4 but I think above should work. For more info check out user guide. Maciek. From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 06:02:12 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA18968 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 06:02:05 +0300 Received: from mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-8 #6430) id <01HEB5AZLCEO93IMRS@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Mon, 04 Jul 1994 13:01:39 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id NAA05264; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 13:01:36 +1000 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 1994 12:57:37 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: EMLPlayer1.2 In-reply-to: <01HE73KRQOQAAZVQS4@cc.curtin.edu.au> To: Richard Wiffen Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, Richard Wiffen wrote: > > BTW, could someone in Oz tell me an address for Ratbyte Software? I was told > that's where to send my registration card. I need my new BUM! :) > (And do I need to send money with it?) > Ratbyte Software PO Box 1420 Wollongong NSW 2500 Australia Tel/Fax (042) 28 1489 You need to send them a cheque/money order for $35 and this buys you 6 issues of BUM. I got my bum6 in about 2 weeks after I registerd. Maciek. From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 07:35:37 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA21188 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 07:35:06 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA10291 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 4 Jul 1994 14:33:30 -1000 Message-Id: <199407050033.AA10291@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: Re: TextEntry problem To: msaw1@mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr M Sawicki) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 14:31:07 +1000 (EST) Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: from "Mr M Sawicki" at Jul 4, 94 12:53:28 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > > > > On Mon, 4 Jul 1994, tom duncan wrote: > > > Hi all, > > Having a couple of problems. > > > > 1. Text Entry program by Mark Tiffany > > I have a few Token messed up. > > Any ideas were these come from. I thought by blitzlibs were up-to-date > > > > USEPATH TextEntryInfo > > t$=StripTrail$(t$,Asc(" ")) > > ot$=t$ > > If \Winw>????? Then \Winw=????? > > If \Winh>????? Then \Winh=????? > > If \Winx+\Winw>????? Then \Winx=?????-\Winw > > If \Winy+\Winh>????? Then \Winy=?????-\Winh > > > > ??????? - Means that a token is not found. It happened to me when I tried > running a program for which library was not installed. Yep, Thanks I knew that, but what I need is someone with TextEntry working to tell me what tokens they are and they might have come from. Seems to be a big problem these days with so many libraries floating around. ta again Tom D > > > > > 2. ROL > > I need to do a 4 bit ROL and havn't a clue on setting up the registers. > > Any ideas anyone. > > No need to. All you have to do is > > a ROL 4 <- this will rotate a 4 times to the left. > > You may have to use a=a ROL 4 but I think above should work. For more info > check out user guide. > > Maciek. > > > From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 07:40:36 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA21419 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 07:40:28 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA10316 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 4 Jul 1994 14:37:43 -1000 Message-Id: <199407050037.AA10316@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: Re: TextEntry problem To: msaw1@mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr M Sawicki) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 14:35:20 +1000 (EST) Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: from "Mr M Sawicki" at Jul 4, 94 12:53:28 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > > > > On Mon, 4 Jul 1994, tom duncan wrote: > > > Hi all, > > Having a couple of problems. > > > > 1. Text Entry program by Mark Tiffany > > I have a few Token messed up. > > Any ideas were these come from. I thought by blitzlibs were up-to-date > > > > USEPATH TextEntryInfo > > t$=StripTrail$(t$,Asc(" ")) > > ot$=t$ > > If \Winw>????? Then \Winw=????? > > If \Winh>????? Then \Winh=????? > > If \Winx+\Winw>????? Then \Winx=?????-\Winw > > If \Winy+\Winh>????? Then \Winy=?????-\Winh > > > > ??????? - Means that a token is not found. It happened to me when I tried > running a program for which library was not installed. > > > > > 2. ROL > > I need to do a 4 bit ROL and havn't a clue on setting up the registers. > > Any ideas anyone. > > No need to. All you have to do is > > a ROL 4 <- this will rotate a 4 times to the left. tried that a ROL 4 a=a ROL 4 a=(a ROL 4) errors with each and every one. Tom D > > You may have to use a=a ROL 4 but I think above should work. For more info > check out user guide. > > Maciek. > > > From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 12:21:38 1994 Received: from CUPPA.CURTIN.EDU.AU (cuppa.curtin.edu.au [134.7.70.20]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA03040 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 12:19:44 +0300 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by cc.curtin.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #5201) id <01HEB5GR57J490MVNT@cc.curtin.edu.au>; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 13:06:20 +0800 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 1994 13:06:20 +0800 From: Richard Wiffen Subject: Re: Changing title bar colors. To: BB4H@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HEB5GR731E90MVNT@cc.curtin.edu.au> X-VMS-To: IN%"BB4H@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZ MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO Mr Mig wrote: > Re: Changing the color of the title bar on an intuition screen. > This one is easy (even for me! :) Use the PalRGB command after > opening up your screen. For example: > Screen 0,0 > ScreensBitMap 0,0 > PalRGB 0,2,6,5,6 > Use Palette 0 > MouseWait Um, thanks, but that's not *quite* what I was after... What I need to know is how to change *which* registers are actually used to draw the titlebar, not how to change the *contents* of the registers. :) Say, for example, that the title bar is drawn with register 2 (like your example), but that register has the same (or similar) colour as the background (a paint program for example...), so you can't change it. Assume register 3, though, has a different colour. Is there any way to tell Intuition to use register 3 instead of register 2 to draw the title bar??? The same goes for the text in the title bar... It's probably a really simple problem... - Richard _--_|\ AMIGA /// Richard Wiffen (swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au) -- Perth, W.A. / \ OK! /// --------------------------------------------------------- ==>\_.--._/ \\\/// "Hm! Teenagers... They think they know everything. v \XX/ You give them an inch, they swim all over you." From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 09:33:29 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA24763 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 09:33:18 +0300 Received: from mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-8 #6430) id <01HEBCOTLJ7K93HG34@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Mon, 04 Jul 1994 16:32:50 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id QAA01000; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 16:32:48 +1000 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 1994 16:30:38 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: TextEntry problem In-reply-to: <199407050033.AA10291@zeus> To: tom duncan Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 4 Jul 1994, tom duncan wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Jul 1994, tom duncan wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > Having a couple of problems. > > > > > > 1. Text Entry program by Mark Tiffany > > > I have a few Token messed up. > > > Any ideas were these come from. I thought by blitzlibs were up-to-date > > > > > > USEPATH TextEntryInfo > > > t$=StripTrail$(t$,Asc(" ")) > > > ot$=t$ > > > If \Winw>????? Then \Winw=????? > > > If \Winh>????? Then \Winh=????? > > > If \Winx+\Winw>????? Then \Winx=?????-\Winw > > > If \Winy+\Winh>????? Then \Winy=?????-\Winh > > > > > > > ??????? - Means that a token is not found. It happened to me when I tried > > running a program for which library was not installed. > > Yep, Thanks I knew that, but what I need is someone with TextEntry working to > tell me what tokens they are and they might have come from. > Seems to be a big problem these days with so many libraries floating around. > What about libnums? Do you have the library number in there. If you don't then there's a chance that it will not work. (will not create proper deflibs and will not load libraries properly if the numbers are wrong) Maciek. From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 09:37:46 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA24888 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 09:37:37 +0300 Received: from mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-8 #6430) id <01HEBCU6SUSW93HQEG@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Mon, 04 Jul 1994 16:37:10 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id QAA01010; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 16:37:06 +1000 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 1994 16:34:06 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: TextEntry problem In-reply-to: <199407050037.AA10316@zeus> To: tom duncan Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 4 Jul 1994, tom duncan wrote: > > > 2. ROL > > > I need to do a 4 bit ROL and havn't a clue on setting up the registers. > > > Any ideas anyone. > > > > No need to. All you have to do is > > > > a ROL 4 <- this will rotate a 4 times to the left. > > tried that > a ROL 4 > a=a ROL 4 > a=(a ROL 4) > > errors with each and every one. > > Tom D > > Oooops my mistake, rotation is not supported by Blitz. Instead you'll have to use ASL/ASR for arithmetic rotation or LSL/LSR for logical rotation . Maciek. From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 4 12:36:02 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA03549 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 1994 12:34:11 +0300 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 10:30:30 +0100 Message-Id: <94070410303052@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: EMLPlayer1.2 X-VMS-To: SMTP%"preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: >On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, Richard Wiffen wrote: > >> NICE!!! I want those libs!!! :) >> >> Much better than the crappy routines which come with Blitz. > >Thankyou.. :) > >> Only problem I had was that, after playing a number of modules, Workbench >> would tell me I had about 1.5M free, but I kept getting Recoverable Alerts. >> When I checked with 'avail', it told me the largest block size was about >> 20-30 k! It looks like the EML libs are fragmenting my memory! >> (BTW, I'm using a 1200 with HD, no fastmem). >> >> BTW, could someone in Oz tell me an address for Ratbyte Software? I was told >> that's where to send my registration card. I need my new BUM! :) >> (And do I need to send money with it?) > >I can't remember the address off hand, but I have it.. I'll send it to you >tomorrow... > >I've also had the problem you stated above.. Looks like a bug in Blitz >though because I'm allocating memory with the blitz routines... I get those >awful alerts ALL of the time.. Someone else has found this stupid bug in Blitz! My Map editor keeps on Recoverable alerting on me - I cannot track down what the fault is. I'm glad that someone else has this problem, since it means that my source code isn't at fault! And.... I had a look at the module player program (EMLPLAYER?) and I though it was quite good. What you should do is put in MED module support and make it play whole directories! Can I have copies of your libraries please whoever wrote the EMLPLAYER (APOLOGIES: its Monday morning, the editor I'm using sucks and I can't remember your name!)? Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Someones spotted a T.T. bug!| |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6MB/Blitz2 | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | | [###############!] [###############] | | | Finished Project : RI Libs v3.2 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [###########################:::::::] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Finished Project : Map Editor v1.1 | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [######################::::::::::::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 6 01:36:01 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA00911 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 01:35:34 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA28453; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 08:39:21 +1000 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 08:39:20 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Yet another one... To: Steve cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <94070511192883@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 5 Jul 1994, Steve wrote: > Hi y'all, > > Just a quick note to say that there is another library currently in > development. It's called the TrackDisk-Lib and contains commands to > read/write sectors from a disk - if you dont want people to rip stuff > from your programs (e.g. shape files/IFFs/modules etc.), you > can write them to unused sectors of a disk and voila, its safe. > It currently contains the following commands : > > OpenDisk unit# > CloseDisk unit# > MotorOn unit# ; not really necessary > MotorOff unit# > ReadSector unit#,sector#,buffer[,numsectors] > WriteSector unit#,sector#,buffer[,numsectors] > FormatTrack unit#,track#,buffer[,numtracks] > > I'm not really sure if its worth continuing this library - after all it has > limited use, but if you want it, then just tell me. YES PLEASE! > > Steve. > > +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Steven Matty from Reflective Images| Gripes : That Friggin' Clown Game Won| I totally agree.. :) > |====================================+======================================| > | A1200/340HD/6Mb/33FPU/Blitz | Current Project : Fired Guns | > | Soon to be A1200/340/6Mb/33FPU/030 | [#:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::] | > | | Current Project : Shapes Lib | > | sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [##################::::::::::::::::] | > | | Current Project : BlitzLibs v3.2 | > | <> | [###########################:::::::] | > \____________________________________|______________________________________/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 6 05:11:40 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA04307 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 05:10:48 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA28872; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:13:15 +1000 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:13:14 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: New Address To: Acid Software cc: blitz list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Acid Software wrote: > Hello, > I'm Simon Armstrong from Acid Software, I just got a new account sorted > out so if you can let me know what is happening and where I'll probably > be able to offer some support and news for wired Blitz Users. > Bye Bye HEY!! WELCOME!! ('bout time too..) ;-) FYI, email mmmakela@cc.helsinki.fi to be added to the Blitz list.. - Paul > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 6 12:29:41 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA05695 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:27:36 +0300 Received: from mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-8 #6430) id <01HEEBBTC90093HRZP@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Wed, 06 Jul 1994 19:26:29 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id TAA03238; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 19:26:27 +1000 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 19:23:48 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: Yet another one... In-reply-to: <94070511192883@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> To: Steve Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 5 Jul 1994, Steve wrote: > Hi y'all, > > Just a quick note to say that there is another library currently in > development. It's called the TrackDisk-Lib and contains commands to > read/write sectors from a disk - if you dont want people to rip stuff > from your programs (e.g. shape files/IFFs/modules etc.), you > can write them to unused sectors of a disk and voila, its safe. > It currently contains the following commands : > > OpenDisk unit# > CloseDisk unit# > MotorOn unit# ; not really necessary > MotorOff unit# > ReadSector unit#,sector#,buffer[,numsectors] > WriteSector unit#,sector#,buffer[,numsectors] > FormatTrack unit#,track#,buffer[,numtracks] > > I'm not really sure if its worth continuing this library - after all it has > limited use, but if you want it, then just tell me. > > Steve. > I think the more instructions blitz has, the better. Although with the way things are going a HDs will be more widely used for games. Just look at IBM market, it's hard to find a game that need less them 10Meg Maciek. From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 6 12:35:45 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA05914 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:34:24 +0300 Received: from mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-8 #6430) id <01HEEBKXYXPC93HTLE@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Wed, 06 Jul 1994 19:33:51 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id TAA03247; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 19:33:49 +1000 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 19:30:11 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: Bitmaps & Slices In-reply-to: <199407042036.OAA23245@esprit.uccs.edu> To: Gerald A Wenzel Cc: blitz-list@Helsinki.FI Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 4 Jul 1994, Gerald A Wenzel wrote: > Could someone please explain the concept of "Bitmaps" and "Slices" to me. > I'm having a hard time understanding the explanations given in the BB2 docs. > Also, does anyone know of some good books (in English) where I can get > information about programming graphics. > Basically a bitmap simply reserves memory for the screen somewhere in chip. Slice on the other hand controls how this screen is going to be displayed (copperlist). I know it's not much of an explanation but I'm not sure how else it can be described. Maciek. From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 6 13:19:16 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA07489 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 13:18:34 +0300 Received: from mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-8 #6430) id <01HEED4GP8JK93J03O@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Wed, 06 Jul 1994 20:17:49 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw089.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id UAA03272; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 20:17:48 +1000 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 20:07:25 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: New Address In-reply-to: To: Acid Software Cc: blitz list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Acid Software wrote: > Hello, > I'm Simon Armstrong from Acid Software, I just got a new account sorted > out so if you can let me know what is happening and where I'll probably > be able to offer some support and news for wired Blitz Users. > Bye Bye > > Hey, Acid is on-line, cooool. Now to the questions.... How does blitz store quick number. It seems the integer part is stored in the upper word (signed) but I'm not sure about the fraction part which seem to live in the lower word. (all debuggers that I have die when I try to load compiled program :( Also, is 68020+ support in in-line assembly planned for blitz?? I would really like to see support for all MC processors (including mmu/fpu and 040 fpu) in in-line assembly or even better, in code generation! And finally, will we ever see a linker for blitz? It's annoying when you only use 1 instruction from the library and the whole thing is put in your code. Maciek. From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 6 16:53:50 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA03405 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 16:52:08 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id BAA08571; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 01:47:32 +1200 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 01:46:00 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: New Address To: Mr M Sawicki cc: blitz list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Ha, linker, yes the source code to ALL the blitz libraries are being published, perhaps a user would like to "link" our bullshit assembler code... If I ever contributed to BB3 it would have to be in one word a "linker" rather than a bloody language... From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 12:14:37 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA11634 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:14:04 +0300 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 10:11:33 +0100 Message-Id: <94070710113357@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: mactech@teleport.com, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: AGA SPRITES X-VMS-To: SMTP%"mactech@teleport.com" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: >Having trouble displaying 64 bit sprites on an AGA (A1200) machine. >I am using the some code that looks something like this: > > Loadshape > Spritemode 2 > Getasprite > Displaysprite > >The sprite will display but it is not 64 bits wide. I am using a >64 x 64 shape that I created in D-paint. > >If anyone has any additional information for using sprites on AGA >machines I could really use some help. Just in case you don't know: the spritemode command changes the resolution of sprites. Sprites ARE ALWAYS 16 low resolution pixels wide. If you set Spritemode to 2 you should get super hires sprites that will be 64 super hires pixels wide BUT only 16 lores pixels wide. Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Someones spotted a T.T. bug!| |====================================+======================================| | A1200/340HD/6MB/Blitz2 | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | | [###############!] [###############] | | | Finished Project : RI Libs v3.2 | | Steven Matty : sis3147 | [###########################:::::::] | | Stephen McNamara : sis3149 | Finished Project : Map Editor v1.1 | | @sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [######################::::::::::::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 12:41:42 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA12705 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:41:29 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id VAA03313; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 21:39:32 +1200 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 21:36:11 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Debugger (question to Acid Software) To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Ya hello Martin, Debugger bad on accelerators? Any points in particular? Unlk A4 is not reliable so if you have any assembler you need to stick runerrsoff and runerrson (cniffed of course for only when you want runtime errors) around the statements in question. We had an asshole of a job finishing SkidMarks cos me and Andrew hadn't figured it out.. Oh and soundfx, apparently Roger has added a cacheofff command so that is apparently a rude fix for the sound library, I hope to publish the source code to the sound lib plus an explanation of how you drive interupts from libraries in bum7 From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 7 13:02:36 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA13491 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:02:22 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id WAA03687; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:00:34 +1200 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 21:55:23 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Debugger (question to Acid Software) To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO > Well, recently (about a month ago), I started getting errors when > examining variables. Sometimes it would work fine, sometimes when I > asked to see an existing variable, it would say 'cannot create in > direct mode', even tho the variable definitely exists! we fixed most of the direct mode stuff in v1.08 (bum6) to be honest i've never got out of the habit of ignoring the debugger completely, oh dear > Also, when my program reached a certain size I think (although I may > be wrong in that), when running my game in debugging mode, the game > crashes at random intervals, usually no more than 30 secs after it > starts. No feedback at all, it simply crashes my machine. > Of course, my game runs fine in non-debug mode (not a single crash), > but as soon as I switch to debug mode, random crashes. yes a bit silly for the debugger to ad bug (a bugger indeed!) the unlk a4 thing as i said is the main problem I know of, > I can believe it 8) Is SkidMarks being updated at all. I wish for > greater computer intelligence, since I have yet to lose a match > against the computer, and I usually lap them once or twice (they are > aweful drivers) 8^) Yeh, I always swap the cars around to make it a little harder some of the computers suit the monster camaro, you have to be a bit of a swizz to beat them on the flat snow course in a porsche i think, wouldn't it be nice to be able to play over the net? then we wouldn't need bloody computer cars... oh and as for a quick patch howabout cpu nocache in your startup sequence or as an execute_ call? From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 8 01:42:47 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA12635 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 01:41:50 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA10394; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:45:49 +1000 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:45:48 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Debugger (question to Acid Software) To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Martin Kift wrote: > Hi, > > With the release of BUM7 soon, can you (Acid) tell me if the debugger > is fixed so it works on accelerated machines. I've basically written > half my game without the aid of a debugger because the bloody thing > is so unstable. > > Also, any chance of the sfx corruption (on accelerated machines) bug > being fixed????? If that's with tracker mods, EME will run on ANY speed machine without having to set ANY dmawait stuff.. (Beat that CIATrackerLib!) Yes Neil.. I know.. I'm getting cocky again.. :) - Paul > > > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | > | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > | Formula One GrandPrix amiga internet champion for 1994. | > +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 8 01:53:57 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA12838 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 01:53:48 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA03156; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 10:51:58 +1200 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 10:50:32 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Debugger (question to Acid Software) To: Paul Reece cc: Martin Kift , blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 8 Jul 1994, Paul Reece wrote: > I have a problem where i'm ALWAYS getting recoverable alerts in TED... It's > REALLY getting on my nerves.. The famous John Veldthius (virus checker software) is currently fixing several bugs for us in the way of illegal system calls in Ted, I haven't heard from him for several weeks but will post update ASAP From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 8 01:48:30 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA12733 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 01:48:18 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA10398; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:52:07 +1000 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:52:07 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Debugger (question to Acid Software) To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <101A68204E@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Martin Kift wrote: > > 1. your a fucking C++ programmer in your sig file so what do I care! > um 8) um is NOT the word.. :) > Did you know Ted is very flaky with very large files. Two weeks ago, > it destroyed my main source file (which was about 4500 lines of > code). It just ate it up and spat out a 650K file full of binary > junk. I have a problem where i'm ALWAYS getting recoverable alerts in TED... It's REALLY getting on my nerves.. > Also, does anybody from Acid Software care to comment on that Amiga > Format competition. I'd like to hear the reasons why that crap Circus > game won? 8) ME TOO!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 10 16:33:54 1994 Received: from CUPPA.CURTIN.EDU.AU (cuppa.curtin.edu.au [134.7.70.20]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA26414 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 1994 16:30:37 +0300 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by cc.curtin.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #5201) id <01HEK0TEKHLS9TCZSI@cc.curtin.edu.au>; Sun, 10 Jul 1994 21:30:06 +0800 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 21:30:06 +0800 From: Richard Wiffen Subject: Re: Hey all. Project! To: BB4H@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HEK0TELK6Q9TCZSI@cc.curtin.edu.au> X-VMS-To: IN%"BB4H@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZ MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO Mr. Mig wrote: > Just to let you all know, I'm planning on making a Blitz version > of Jeopardy! (Or did I already mention that?) Well, I think > it would be a great practice project for me for my first Blitz 2 > program. What do you guys think? I'vre already done a couple of > routines, and they are turning out great! I'm planning on > digitizing graphics and sound directly from the show itself, so > hopefully it will interest you guys enough to Download it! hehe! You never saw the Australian version... :) > Also, maybe I can ask something of you. I am trying to figure out > what the best way of making something zoom in, for example, the > screen for the Daily Double on Jeopardy! You know? It starts of small > and it flips around on the x-axis while coming closer and closer to > the screen, until it occupies the whole screen. What's the best way > to do the zooming part to make it look ultra smooth? I'd probably do it with some sort of filled vector graphic routine, rather than a DPaint-type animation. Especially if you wanted it full-screen. - Richard Wiffen _--_|\ AMIGA /// Richard Wiffen (swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au) -- Perth, W.A. / \ OK! /// --------------------------------------------------------- ==>\_.--._/ \\\/// "What? What is it?" v \XX/ "It's a dinglehopper!" From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 12:50:58 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA29008 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:50:45 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id VAA25698; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 21:48:45 +1200 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 21:45:06 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Sound problem To: Jurgen Valks cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <14CE7E35D42@ms1.hsbos.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO > > > > So does anybodu know anything about this?? I just don't want to > > release my mega project because of crapped sounds!! > > Try Paul Reece's library when it's finished, it's good! > Greetings from, > I love you guys, this is exactly the ethic behind Blitz2's design. I can not apologise enough about assembler/debugging and sloppy palette handling but if user libs keep getting better we are ALL on to a good thing yes? btw my 3D library WILL be rereleased in BUM7 if you can find some XSPEX glasses they work quite out of it, freddy's dead red/blue ones are cool also. and last but not least, the party pack thing is about to kick off, 1 BGP (british pound) payed to all authors contributions with I reckon 5 very nice titles on each disk, will hopefully have some reference material and a comms package for linking CD32 to other AGA machines for developers. From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 11 18:41:12 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA14278 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 1994 18:40:48 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id BAA29011; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 01:29:48 +1200 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 01:29:18 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Blitz Guide To: Jurgen Valks cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <14DE4A94B10@ms1.hsbos.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Yes please, I'd love to see the Guide, I trust there is no breach of copyright... From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 12 02:56:38 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA29931 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 02:56:25 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id LAA07048; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 11:54:38 +1200 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 11:52:51 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Blitz- the amiga Format version To: Andrew Diller cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <9407112317.AA15341@is-next.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Acid distributor in USA is Dave Maziarka, hes in wisconsin on (608)257 9057, after hours is a support BBS, sorry to hear you had no luck with AF version on A3000, first report I've had like that. Simon Armstrong From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 12 02:59:14 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA29956 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 02:59:03 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA28395; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 10:02:52 +1000 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 10:02:52 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Starwoids To: M D Cox cc: blitzlist In-Reply-To: <199407111637.AA26525@access1.digex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 11 Jul 1994, M D Cox wrote: > Not to knock Martin (well, maybe a little) or the England WC team (I can buy > t-shirts that say England '94!) but I hate Novell LAN Workplace and EXOS! > Slow slow slow! I am downloading SW now. From what I have played of it before, > it is a great little game (well, 2 disks is not really little). Netware is much nicer.. :-) > > Mike > P.S. Real soccer/football players have size 5 balls! ??? > -- > Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net > A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU > For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! > For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 00:50:33 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA06011 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 00:50:19 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id MAA03981; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:44:15 +1200 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:41:19 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: sprite answer? To: Brett Johansen cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <199407121445.AA10096@sol.newcastle.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO My answer would be to set up a "dummy" slice further down the screen with only sprites allocated (all other flags off), this way you can have two sets of sprites, if you expect them to flow smoothly between the two slices forget it, if you expect them to be clipped between the two slices you will have to set up two completely separate slices. If I was you I'd use Blits, Sprites are a complete waiste of time except for spot fx and maybe bullets. What R U doing anyway, people are sometimes more willing to lend a hand when they like the sound of your project:) From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 13 23:29:11 1994 Received: from cygnus.umd.edu (cygnus.umd.edu [129.2.8.26]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA02943 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 23:28:54 +0300 Received: by cygnus.umd.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA07197; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:28:07 GMT-0500 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 15:28:05 -0500 (GMT-0500) From: Andy Diller Subject: Re: Acid on the list To: Peter Sandberg Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <9407110640.AA00364@gfl.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 11 Jul 1994, Peter Sandberg wrote: > It seems like Acid is with us here on the list finally - hooray and welcome 8). > As a little test I will now ask a question. > > I have an A2000(WB 1.3) and are currently planning to upgrade to WB 3.1. Will I still be able > to use BB2 or will I run into some incompability? > > This may have to do with my earlier problem w/ running the Amiga Format version of BB2 on my 3000 '040. I have 3.1 installed, and the BlitzCLI always locks up- nothing will run. However, if I boot off of my 2.1 volume, it works fine. Is 3.1 compatible with BB2? |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | /|_|_|_ Andrew Diller | | /|_| |_ dillera@cygnus.umd.edu | | |_|_|_ | / / / / | |----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 01:45:40 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA07704 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 01:45:20 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA24461; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 10:43:52 +1200 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 10:43:29 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Acid on the list To: Peter Sandberg cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <9407110640.AA00364@gfl.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 11 Jul 1994, Peter Sandberg wrote: > It seems like Acid is with us here on the list finally - hooray and welcome 8). > As a little test I will now ask a question. > > I have an A2000(WB 1.3) and are currently planning to upgrade to WB 3.1. Will I still be able > to use BB2 or will I run into some incompability? > > > Regards > Peter Sandberg > sand@gfl.se > > Increased compatability will be more the likely, hahaha From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 01:47:25 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA07724 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 01:47:14 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA24496; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 10:45:50 +1200 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 10:44:29 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Acid on the list To: Andy Diller cc: Peter Sandberg , blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO > > This may have to do with my earlier problem w/ running the Amiga Format > version of BB2 on my 3000 '040. > > I have 3.1 installed, and the BlitzCLI always locks up- nothing will run. > However, if I boot off of my 2.1 volume, it works fine. > > Is 3.1 compatible with BB2? > The way we opened the CLI in v1.6 I think it was would have been giving you struth with any 3.1 tasks that extended the workings of the shell. From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 16:17:52 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA06167 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 16:15:56 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id BAA11356; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 01:14:16 +1200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 01:13:13 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: AutoScroll Screens To: Nigel Hughes cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <29056.774174959@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Umm dumb question, what is AmiNet, can I publish the stuff I find in BUM, I would prefer perhaps if you can send uuencode, roll on BUM7, how many disks of stuff do people want this time? From acid@iconz.co.nz Thu Jul 14 16:45:48 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA06167 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 16:15:56 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id BAA11356; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 01:14:16 +1200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 01:13:13 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: AutoScroll Screens To: Nigel Hughes cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <29056.774174959@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Umm dumb question, what is AmiNet, can I publish the stuff I find in BUM, I would prefer perhaps if you can send uuencode, roll on BUM7, how many disks of stuff do people want this time? From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 14 19:17:42 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA13332 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 19:17:22 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 19:17:17 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 19:16:01 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 19:10:57 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 19:13:11 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 19:13:09 +0300 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 19:13:09 +0300 X400-Originator: tauy4%central.sussex.ac.uk@sussex.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<17837.199407141613@solx1.centra] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: AutoScrol... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: General Assassin Message-ID: <17837.199407141613@solx1.central.susx.ac.uk> To: " (Acid Software)" Cc: nlh1@aberystwyth.ac.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: AutoScroll Screens X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Short of toilet paper? Well here is a letter from Acid Software: > > Umm dumb question, what is AmiNet, can I publish the stuff I find in BUM, > I would prefer perhaps if you can send uuencode, roll on BUM7, how many > disks of stuff do people want this time? Okay, Aminet. Aminet is a network of computers around the world that share an archive which is basically jam-packed with Amiga stuff. What happens, is that you have the master computer (wuarchive.wustl.edu) which grabs the recent Amiga uploads from all of the other Aminet sites. It then bounces back all the new uploads to the aminet sites. Say I uploaded a file into the Aminet site at ftp.luth.se, then sometime during that day, ftp.luth.se would upload my file to the host computer wuarchive.wustl.edu The host computer would then echo my file to all the other sites on aminet. What you effectively get is world distribution of your file. The Aminet archive contains just about everything imaginable, and most aminet mirrors trash all the old stuff otherwise their discs would not be able to cope. A couple of archives though (like wuarchive) retain all the files. There are quite a few aminet mirrors (about seven I think). The ones I use are: wuarchive.wustl.edu (The master computer. Useful for getting old stuff. This would probably be the best site for New-Zealand users) ftp.luth.se (Nice fast European lines. It supports uploads, and has quite a large amount of aminet stuff.) src.doc.ic.ac.uk My local site in the UK. Although this runs very fast for me, (because it is on SuperJANET ;->), aminet is somewhat neglected, and they don't support uploads. There are other aminet mirrors, and you can find info on them from within aminet itself. From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 15 17:36:45 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA23572 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 17:36:19 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA16603; Sat, 16 Jul 1994 00:40:08 +1000 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 00:40:07 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: EML libs WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE To: "HADL60::\"hadmo\""@email.meto.govt.uk cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <01HEQJGXW4WI0021SP@email.meto.govt.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 15 Jul 1994 HADL60::"hadmo"@email.meto.govt.uk wrote: > > Could some kind person (or unkind - I'm not fussy) mail me a copy > of the EML (?) libs (for playing MODS/MEDS or whatever). Sorry but MY EML libs are NOT available at this time.. They are only in betatest stage, and there are ALOT of bugs I need to fix.. Ask me again in a month or so.. > > Many many thanks, > > Matt. > modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 17 07:40:29 1994 Received: from triode.apana.org.au (triode.apana.org.au [202.12.88.58]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA20735 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 07:39:22 +0300 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 14:37:09 +0000 From: Neil Miller Subject: Re: Serial Command problems To: "j.valks" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <19ED5254261@ms1.hsbos.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 14 Jul 1994, j.valks wrote: > Hiya guys, > > I have some strange problems with the Serial commands. I can't even > open a port! > > I use this: OpenSerial "ser:",0,9600,0 Try OpenSerial "serial.device",0,9600,0 <-you are opening the serial device not the port. You could also replace that with baudbandit.device as well. > > When I run it I get a Syntax Error, so when I press help I get: > OpenSerial device$,unit#,baud,io_serflags > > What's wrong??????????????????????? > > > > Greetings from: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jurgen Valks, working at HTO 's-Hertogenbosch in The Netherlands > > Email: j.valks@hsbos.nl > > Systems: Amiga 2000, 4Mb, 49Hd working as a fileserver > Amiga 1200, 6Mb, 120Hd 68030 40Mhz. > PC 486-DX33, 8mb, 210Hd > > Working on: Amiga: Hero 2094 (HERO conversion from the CBM64) > Blitz2 AmigaGuide file > PC : Diropus for PC > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > \|/ -O"O- ----------------------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------ T E X neil@triode.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 18 11:32:17 1994 Received: from golden.ncw.net (golden.ncw.net [199.79.131.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA01712 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 11:31:47 +0300 Received: by golden.ncw.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qPnyb-0003I3C; Mon, 18 Jul 94 01:23 PDT Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 01:23:05 -700 (PDT) From: Joel Corn Subject: Re: A possible bug? To: "GEORGAKAKIS, LOUIS, MR" cc: blitz-list@HELSINKI.FI In-Reply-To: <16JUL94.24140249.0085.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Sat, 16 Jul 1994, GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR wrote: > Hello all. Can someone please tell me why this program isn't working? > > BLITZ > > QAMIGA > If ReadFile(0,"Ram:Test") > FileInput 0 > Hello$ = Edit$(10) ;A quick visit into AMIGA mode. > CloseFile 0 > DefaultInput > EndIf > BLITZ > > BitMap 0,320,200,5 > Slice 0,44,320,200,$fff8,5,8,32,320,320 > Use BitMap 0 : Show 0 > BlitzKeys On > BitMapOutput 0 > BitMapInput > > While Joyb(0) = 0 : Print Inkey$ : Wend try this: BitMapOutput 0 BlitzKeys On BitMapInput Note the order in which this is done, as taken out of the manual. I didn't bother to try it, since I work in Amiga mode exclusively, but chances are if every example shows a certain sequence of events, they shoudl probably be followed until you know you can break the rules and get away with it! :) > > As you guys can see, I turn Blitz mode on, then I take a quick > visit into QAMIGA and read a word from a file in Ram ("Hello!") > Then I go back into Blitz mode setting DefaultInput back on. Then > I set up a screen and a slice and prepared the bitmap to read and > write data to it using BitMapOutput and BitMapInput. Then I go > into a loop reading data from the keyboard. But I get an error: > > "Can't input character from default input" > > But how can that be? I switched to BitmapInput!!! If I completely > remove the QAMIGA routine, it works just fine! So, what is going on? > Did I find a BUG???? Please HELP! It will be impossible to make > any games or programs which require me to read a file in AMIGA mode > and then get input from a bitmap in BLITZ mode! This is not very > productive! > > Thanks to anyone for the HELP! I NEED it! > ^^^^ > Not a problem, and not likely a bug, unless the example I gave doesn't work. Joel ***************************************************************************** * Joel A. Corn - Owner/Head Programmer darksoft@golden.ncw.net * * DarkSoft Computers/DarkSoftWare 1-509-886-0581 * ***************************************************************************** From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 18 08:52:55 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA25863 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:51:41 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id RAA03685; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:49:56 +1200 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:49:34 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Blitz Crash To: Stephan Kortleven cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Are you saying your program runs from Dopus if you do NOT include WBStartUP? From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 18 17:26:44 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA16318 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:24:06 +0300 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 15:22:58 +0100 Message-Id: <94071815225784@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: j.valks@hsbos.nl, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: How long?? X-VMS-To: SMTP%"j.valks@hsbos.nl" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 18-JUL-1994 > >What's the maximum length of a string? I can't find it in the >books.... Sorry if you've already found this out but: Blitz stores a longword string length before every string in memory. I assume therefore that the max length is going to be 2^32. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : Someones spotted a T.T. bug!| |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | ToolTypes Library Workbench Library | | | [###############!] [###############] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v3.2 | | | [###########################:::::::] | | Help me:ANIM8 file format please! | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.1| | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [################################::] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 01:56:45 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au ([147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA05446 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 01:56:16 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA03012; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 08:59:17 +1000 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 08:59:17 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Blitz Recoverable-Alert - It's annoying the CRAP outta me! To: Acid Software cc: Blitz Basic List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Simon. At selected times (I believe it's when allocating memory), Blitz gives me a Recoverable Alert. I think its. 0100 000C (Exec-Library) What is the cause of this?? I'm not the only one who has noticed it!! - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 05:44:16 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA12242 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 05:43:30 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id OAA00484; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:41:03 +1200 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:39:55 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Blitz Crash To: Stephan Kortleven cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO OK, next upgrade has new WBStartup that processes tooltypes and stuff (I think) I may post bum7's bug fixes (new Acid libraries) on the net so everyone can get it quickly and easily. From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 05:46:04 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA12268 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 05:45:50 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id OAA00521; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:43:38 +1200 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:41:28 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Blitz Recoverable-Alert - It's annoying the CRAP outta me! To: Paul Reece cc: Blitz Basic List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Recoverable alerts.. hmm one thing why did C= call the recoverable, I have never in all my days EVER recovvered from them... As an answer I would say most recoverable alerts are caused by using objects beyond the maximum, runtime errors should catch these though. If you are talking about Ted crashing (ie not during compile or execution of source but rather while editting) I would like to know more, Ted has not crashed on me for long long time. Simon From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 05:57:54 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA12687 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 05:57:39 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id OAA00843; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:53:48 +1200 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:51:16 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: How long?? To: Mark Kuzmycz cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <9407182343.AA00909@hareth> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 19 Jul 1994, Mark Kuzmycz wrote: > > >> > >>What's the maximum length of a string? I can't find it in the > >>books.... > > > >Sorry if you've already found this out but: > > > > Blitz stores a longword string length before every string in memory. I > >assume therefore that the max length is going to be 2^32. > > The maximum length of a string is defined in the compiler options (resources). > It should be about 10024 (That's what mine is anyway). > > Mark. > > No not quite right, that is the workspace size, you can maxlen strings to any size you want, however if you are going to manipulate them I suppose yes your workspace should be set to as big as the biggest string + biggest string you will be using. I think the bank lib should be expanded for handling largfe files etc, does anyone know the basics of virtual memory, we could then open a bank and allocate the file to it and then you could manipulate it with the string commands but never have to worry about running out of memory, Would this be of use to people? From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 05:59:25 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA12710 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 05:59:12 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA03655; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 12:56:39 +1000 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 12:56:39 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Blitz Recoverable-Alert - It's annoying the CRAP outta me! To: Acid Software cc: Blitz Basic List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 19 Jul 1994, Acid Software wrote: > Recoverable alerts.. hmm one thing why did C= call the recoverable, I > have never in all my days EVER recovvered from them... > As an answer I would say most recoverable alerts are caused by using > objects beyond the maximum, runtime errors should catch these though. > If you are talking about Ted crashing (ie not during compile or execution > of source but rather while editting) I would like to know more, Ted has > not crashed on me for long long time. The problem is when mem is allocated (I think!).. It works for a while and then it just decides to alert.. If I press LMB at this alert, program execution continues ok until the next allocation... When using TED, this also happens sometimes... Sometimes when I edit a line, when I move to another line it alerts... I have a brand spanking new A1200 with 2MB Chip and 40MBHD.... Any ideas?? - Paul > Simon > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 15:20:36 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA02198 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:20:31 +0300 Received: from iconz.co.nz by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:20:23 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id AAA14441; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 00:13:47 +1200 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 00:11:30 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Blitz Recoverable-Alert - It's annoying the CRAP outta me! To: Paul Reece cc: Blitz Basic List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO OK, yeh I'll get back to Ted and realise I've trashed memory only when I insert a line and I get a recoverable alert. Are you using any of the new user commands, Mark said he had a problem with Menu's the other day which I have been meaning to follow up... Best I think if you can run mungwall in the background, that way you know for sure that memory is being corrupted, god I wish Mark had written a decent debugger, I'm sick of apologising for it.... Regards, Simon From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 15:40:55 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA03165 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:40:30 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id AAA14948; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 00:37:15 +1200 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 00:29:05 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Bugs etc, and some display questions To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 19 Jul 1994, Martin Kift wrote: > Hi all (and Acid too), > > I have had various bug reports on my game, and while one or two of > them are obvious bugs in my code, some of them at first appear to be > either bugs or deficiencies in blitz itself. I may be wrong on one > or two of them (so don't flame) me, I'm just trying to chase > solutions to my problems, buts heres a few of them: > > 1. My game does not boot from os3.1 (reported by other people, I > can't test cos I only have 3.0). I think it causes a system crash. > Also (as reported in other letters), running from DOpus causes a > similar crash, maybe they are related. oh god here we go again, another bloody rom, is that the one in CD32, we have had no problems with cd32 ports of Blitz games so far, perhaps bigger vwaits between closing files and entering Blitz mode is required? > > 2. I cannot find away to force open a pal screen screen when using > slices, which is important when running on an ntsc system. Eventually > I'd like to open a proper ntsc screen and support it properly, but in > the meantime, I'd like to open a pal screen. This is very tricky if you want to support workbench startup ie 1942 style monitors and take over the system type startups, the switch lib looks at a location in graphics library to work out NTSC/PAL and hits slices accordingly, can you not start your program by using an openscreentags with some sort of pal config, hmm probably not, tell you what I'll go and fix this problem instead of waffling on... > > Hmm, I thought there was more than that, maybe my memory is going 8) > > Heres a couple of questions tho, maybe you can help me on these: > > 1. How do I change rgb values in displays (the new display library, > replacement for slices). Do I use the slice rgb command (doubt it?), > or is there a command I've missed. > At present you have to change them in the palette using agapalrgb and then do a DisplayPalette > 2. When programming in the display library, I understand I create > some copper lists (using InitCopList) and then call CreateDisplay. > What happens if I want to dump that display and create another, > probably based on a different coplist. (e.g. in my game, I go from a > 2slice dp screen, to a full screen slice for the endscreens, etc, > back to 2slice dp screen etc). > No, coplists do not take up very much memory at all. the great thing about having them all allocated at the top of your program is that memory is not fragmented, in skid for example we had all sorts of bitmaps openning and closing, if you go and allocate a small piece of memory anywhere between these calls you suddenly find you have not got enough continuous memory for the big bitmap... hmmm, again sorry about the waffle... > Also, for this situation, do I have to initialise 3 cop lists (2 for > the game screens and 1 for the endscreen, even tho this is not used > until the end), since I understand this will take up a lot of memory. > With slices,, I can delete and create them as the game runs, but I > can't see similar functions to do this under displaylibs. As I said adding and deleting slices completely fragments memory, with coplists you just allocate which ones you need and they are there, typical coplist will be less than 3K > > Thanks for your time. > > P.S. Any release dates available for BUM7? Any chances of fixes for > the debugger (have you considered the possiblity of remote debugging, > that would be beautiful!!), the sound/caches problem. Thanks. > I'm aiming at Saturday Simon From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 19 16:32:17 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA04957 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 16:31:47 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id BAA15689; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 01:27:45 +1200 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 01:21:50 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Bugs etc, and some display questions To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 19 Jul 1994, Martin Kift wrote: > > oh god here we go again, another bloody rom, is that the one in CD32, we > > have had no problems with cd32 ports of Blitz games so far, perhaps > > bigger vwaits between closing files and entering Blitz mode is required? > > No, I don't think the CD32 has 3.1 (I think it has 3.0 with cd > extensions). Only the a4000T has 3.1, although kick3.1/wb3.1 has just > been released, which is why I'm getting these reports. Bloody > annoying I know, in a way, the amiga is getting almost as bad as the > pc in terms of compatibilty. Hmmm, ever tried adding sound effects (soundblaster etc.) to a PC game?? Still got a bit to go there > > > > 2. I cannot find away to force open a pal screen screen when using > > > slices, which is important when running on an ntsc system. Eventually > > > I'd like to open a proper ntsc screen and support it properly, but in > > > the meantime, I'd like to open a pal screen. > > > > This is very tricky if you want to support workbench startup ie 1942 > > style monitors and take over the system type startups, the switch lib > > looks at a location in graphics library to work out NTSC/PAL and hits > > slices accordingly, can you not start your program by using an > > openscreentags with some sort of pal config, hmm probably not, tell you > > what I'll go and fix this problem instead of waffling on... > > Currently, I'm only interested in opening pal or ntsc low res (15khz) > screens for my game. As I said, I would love a way of specifying PAL > screens in the slice command, although this would only work on all > machines if a PAL screen is possible (some old NTSC machines don't > support this, but I'm not too bothered with that). > > Actually, I intend to switch over to using the Display library > (especially since I hear you used it for SkidMarks), since I remember > reading that it supports aga and ecs. Will it will possible to > specify PAL screens in the new display library too, that would be > excellent! > Done, I will add PAL/NTSC flag to display library, bugger pissing around with Mark's slice library, gone gone gone > > At present you have to change them in the palette using agapalrgb and > > then do a DisplayPalette > > Okay, although is it true that you can only use agapalrgb in amiga > mode. I assume palrgb will also work fine. Any chance of a display > rgb command in future? What? I don't understand why people think you can't use most of the Blitz commands in both Blitz and Amiga mode, I mean some think you can't use Blitz in Amiga mode, grrr, as for changing colours in copperlists, this is darn tricky, due to commodores crap AGA circuitry to change 1 colour in 24 bit takes 4 moves so the display library does colour in chunks of 32, I wanted to keep palette handling simple but jeeze, the hardware does oh so make it difficult old boy.. (sorry just read Liar by Stephen Fry) > > > No, coplists do not take up very much memory at all. the great thing > > about having them all allocated at the top of your program is that memory > > is not fragmented, in skid for example we had all sorts of bitmaps > > openning and closing, if you go and allocate a small piece of memory > > anywhere between these calls you suddenly find you have not got enough > > continuous memory for the big bitmap... hmmm, again sorry about the waffle... > > Ah excellent! And you can waffle all you like, I'm finding it very > interesting 8), since the display docs are somewhat brief at the > moment. > > Just one more question, if switching displays, say moving from a > display based on coplists 0 and 1, to a display based on 2 and 3 (or > whatever), do I just call CreateDisplay over and over again when > switching. i.e. is there no need to close down the previous display > before creating a new one? (I assume not). > yes this is completely and utterly correct > > > P.S. Any release dates available for BUM7? Any chances of fixes for > > > the debugger (have you considered the possiblity of remote debugging, > > > that would be beautiful!!), the sound/caches problem. Thanks. > > I'm aiming at Saturday > > Great. 8) Any ideas on the UK release date (we tend to lag behind > sometimes) Hmm, UK should be swift this time, the French man is in India finding his true self and the boys at Doncaster seem to be relatively organised, part time Blitz User running support office will hopefully be in place within next 3 weeks From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 20 08:15:36 1994 Received: from triode.apana.org.au (triode.apana.org.au [202.12.88.58]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA05743 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 08:14:04 +0300 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 15:11:19 +0000 From: Neil Miller Subject: Re: Screen Flash Problem To: tom duncan cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <199407192318.AA12417@zeus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Tue, 19 Jul 1994, tom duncan wrote: > OK guys, > I know this must be easy but how do I stop the screen flashing > when I load in an image onto another hidden screen. > I have tried moving the screen down out of the way but the flash still > happens. > > Here is the code. > > WBStartup > NoCli > > > S.b=2 > > > For a=1 To 20 > f$="CDX:Temp/F/1.lres" > Gosub Action19 > ShowScreen S : VWait 100 > f$="CDX:Temp/F/2.mres" > Gosub Action19 : VWait 100 > ShowScreen S > Next > End > > > Action19: > ; Load Screen > S=5-S > ; load or initialise a screen into S > If Len(f$)>0 AND Exists(f$) > ; Load image > ILBMInfo f$ > w.w=ILBMWidth > h.w=ILBMHeight > d.w=ILBMDepth > Id.l=ILBMViewMode > Free Window S : Free Screen S : Free BitMap S > BitMap S,w,h,d > Screen S,0,0,w,h,d,Id,"",1,2,S ^Try setting this to 800 or so that way it's hidden off the bottom of the screen. Then do a screen move S,0,-800 to re-display it. > PalRGB S,0,0,0,0 > HideScreen S > ; Now Open Window onto Screen > Window S,0,0,w,h,$0900,"",1,2,S > LoadScreen S,f$,S > Use Palette S > OK.b=True > Else > r=Request("ERROR","Cant open file "+f$,"BYE") : End > OK.b=False > EndIf > Return > > Any ideas anyone > And any quicker ways to load an IFF image. > > Tom Duncan > duncan@usq.edu.au > > > > \|/ -O"O- ----------------------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------ T E X neil@triode.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 21 09:39:16 1994 Received: from golden.ncw.net (golden.ncw.net [199.79.131.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA27916 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:38:53 +0300 Received: by golden.ncw.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qQrdy-0003hWC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 23:30 PDT Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 23:30:10 -700 (PDT) From: Joel Corn Subject: Re: Joel Corn: Order does not work. To: "GEORGAKAKIS, LOUIS, MR" cc: blitz-list@HELSINKI.FI In-Reply-To: <20JUL94.23680700.0080.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR wrote: > Hi there. > > Thanks for the tip on using a different order for that little > program I showed everyone, but > > BitMapOutput 0 > BlitzKeys On > BitMapInput > > doesn't seem to work either. So, therefore you agree with me that > there must be a bug, right? You think it wouldn't be too naughty of > me to tell Acid to check it out? I don't know if I'd go that far, mainly because I never work in Blitz mode. However, that was what I got out of the reference manual. So quite possibly the manual has a shit-load of typos and all-out errors in it and we need up to date ones? THIS I WILL agree with! :) ***************************************************************************** * Joel A. Corn - Owner/Head Programmer darksoft@golden.ncw.net * * DarkSoft Computers/DarkSoftWare 1-509-886-0581 * ***************************************************************************** From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 21 07:20:02 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA23582 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 07:19:49 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id QAA08509; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:18:17 +1200 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:14:33 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Are numbers REAL? To: "GEORGAKAKIS, LOUIS, MR" cc: blitz-list@HELSINKI.FI In-Reply-To: <20JUL94.23591303.0080.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR wrote: > Can someone tell me why, when I write down this little program, > it doesn't do what I tell it to? Here: > > Print 5.7896 > MouseWait > > This should print out 5.7896 in a Shell window right? WRONG! It prints > out: > > 5.789599 > > Why? WHY!? > Sigh. > > Nelson Santos > Mr. Mig > > Binary numbers don't store very well unless you use floating point. For speed Blitz defaults to fixed point, which means 2 to the power of hmmm, -14 is the smallest fraction, once you look at the number closest to this you can see in decimal the 3 rd place decimal get's shaky! Anyway, either think binary like a good programmer or think floating point, I have warned against Blitz2 being suitable for large figures, both feminine and financial, so if it's one of the two ring HiSoft immediately. Simon From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 21 07:21:16 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA23639 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 07:21:07 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id QAA08548; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:19:42 +1200 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:18:43 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Joel Corn: Order does not work. To: "GEORGAKAKIS, LOUIS, MR" cc: blitz-list@HELSINKI.FI In-Reply-To: <20JUL94.23680700.0080.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR wrote: > Hi there. > > Thanks for the tip on using a different order for that little > program I showed everyone, but > > BitMapOutput 0 > BlitzKeys On > BitMapInput > > doesn't seem to work either. So, therefore you agree with me that > there must be a bug, right? You think it wouldn't be too naughty of > me to tell Acid to check it out? > > Nelson "Mr. Mig" Santos > > Hmm nother rule of thumb (ROT) is that I always turn BlitzKeys on straight after going into BlitzMode... From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 22 06:59:08 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA10568 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 06:58:36 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id PAA15016; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:56:39 +1200 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:54:43 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Joel Corn: Order does not work. To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <11D40483FDB@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO > > > Hmm nother rule of thumb (ROT) is that I always turn BlitzKeys on > > straight after going into BlitzMode... > > I agree with this, and if you do use blitzkeys, always (AND I MEAN > ALWAYS!!!!!!! 8^), switch off blitzkeys before jumping into QAMIGA > mode (and switch them on again when going back into BLITZ mode > obviously), or you will be in deep shit! > > I have serious keyboard buffering problems when using blitzkeys, > which had me tearing my hair out for ages, until I noticed I wasn't > disabling/enabling blitzkeys when using QAMIGA mode. Sigh... 8) > > Yes, QAmiga BlitzKeys suck, hopefully I'll be uploading you latest version of such things next week that should make Blitzmode a much happier place to be. From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 22 07:00:57 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA10616 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 07:00:41 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id PAA15066; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:58:37 +1200 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:57:51 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Shape problem + Curren project To: "Ott M. Aaloe" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <363959F2981@microlnk.ml.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Of course we wish you luck, the combination of Blitz2 and rendered objects sold 30,000 copies of a game called SkidMarks, (yes it can be done, even by a bunch of kiwis) From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 22 13:56:23 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA22818 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 13:55:05 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id WAA24653; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 22:53:01 +1200 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 22:52:13 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Bloody SISVAX To: HANG-FIRE cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <94072211225591@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, HANG-FIRE wrote: > Date sent: 22-JUL-1994 > > Recently, the mail here has been incredibly dodgy. This means that it is very > likely that any messages sent to either Steve or me @SISVAX have most probably > been lost. If anyone has sent something important then could they please > resend. Not only that but I get 10 messages from your stupid system each day or two telling me it's problems, I don't want to know, get on a real system! From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 23 01:08:08 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA16104 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 01:07:25 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA03693; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 10:05:59 +1200 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 10:05:08 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Get MED! It pays! To: "GEORGAKAKIS, LOUIS, MR" cc: blitz-list@HELSINKI.FI In-Reply-To: <22JUL94.13597506.0098.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR wrote: > Something strange is happenning to the MED commands in my > programs. I load a MED module, I initialize it and then in a loop > I use PlayMED and a VWait. Ok, this works, but it's way to slow! > Then I tried putting 3 playmeds in a row in that loop and it got > close to the proper speed but still it was too slow. 4 Playmeds > in a row made it play too FAST! I also tried the same routine set > on an interrupt but it did the same thing. Is it perhaps because > I have an Amiga 4000 with a 68040 in it or something? > > Nelson. > > I'm not sure but I think you have to reset the timing in med for the mod, can't remember what timinig you tell it for 50th... hmmm what a useless reply... From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 23 09:23:37 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA27100 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 09:22:53 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id SAA13419; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 18:21:29 +1200 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 18:19:07 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Get MED! It pays! To: "GEORGAKAKIS, LOUIS, MR" cc: blitz-list@HELSINKI.FI In-Reply-To: <22JUL94.25658130.0064.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR wrote: > To Acid > ------- > > Yes, that MED reply wasn't as helpful as I'd hoped, but I will try > playing around with the timing in MED to see if I can get it to > work properly. In the mean time, can you tell me why I keep getting > a syntax error when I try to open the serial port? Please give me an > example of how to use the OpenSerial command found in BUM #2. > Thanks. > > Nelson S! > > Your serial problem has been answered several times on the mail list in the last two weeks, using the help key you can quickly check the syntax of any command, and it will tell you a new 2nd parameter has been added which I admit was VERY stupid when regarding backward compatability/documentation... Hmm, to cut a long story short: a.l=OpenSerial(0,"serial.device",2400,0) should work, shouldn't it guys? From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 08:19:43 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA29117 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 08:19:33 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id RAA08237; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 17:18:09 +1200 Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 17:16:05 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Acid: Opening the Serial port! To: "GEORGAKAKIS, LOUIS, MR" cc: blitz-list@HELSINKI.FI In-Reply-To: <23JUL94.25415387.0076.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Two new music players are going to be included in BUM7 contributed from diefferent users, I pray one of these will suit your needs. Does Med not have a DMA variable, this is how many times the player gets called every second I think and will contribute to the speed which the music gets played... The reason our med player is only called once per frame (50 Hz) is because to sync everything up nicely you do not want interupts going off at anything except in sync with the Amiga frame rate... From blitz-list-request Sun Jul 24 08:21:02 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA29161 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 08:20:52 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id RAA08257; Sun, 24 Jul 1994 17:19:08 +1200 Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 17:18:25 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Subscribe To: jeff wilson cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Sun, 24 Jul 1994, jeff wilson wrote: > I would like to subscribe to this area please. > I don't know if this is the right way of doing this, so if not could > someone please inform me how. > > Cheers! > > > > > -- > jwilson@amigar.apana.org.au (jeff wilson) > Amiga Retreat BBS - Darwin, NT, Australia -- +61 89 451516 > > Welcome Jeff, of course you got it right, now where is the info on what you have been up to lately mate? Simon From blitz-list-request Mon Jul 25 06:08:09 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA01121 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 06:06:43 +0300 Received: from slick (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA03731; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 13:04:40 +1000 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 13:04:40 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: Shape problem + Curren project To: Acid Software cc: "Ott M. Aaloe" , blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Acid Software wrote: > Of course we wish you luck, the combination of Blitz2 and rendered > objects sold 30,000 copies of a game called SkidMarks, (yes it can be > done, even by a bunch of kiwis) By a bunch of Kiwis?? You're kidding me!! ;-) Seriously though, when will we see some more Track Disks for Skidmarks?? (also, when the cars go over the line at the end of a race, they jerk like hell on my machine!!) - Paul > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 03:36:40 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA14580 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 03:36:20 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA09461; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 10:40:11 +1000 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 10:40:09 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: R WE ALONE? To: Acid Software cc: blitz list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 25 Jul 1994, Acid Software wrote: > Hmmm, sorry to be stupid, are we alone on this list or was there someone > looking after/coordinating things @helsinki.fi, or did he go on > holiday... this net bizz is sooo weird... mmmakela@cc.helsinki.fi is in charge of the list.. He's not at home at the moment, but he pops in at least once a week to check on things.. - Paul > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Jul 26 05:16:19 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA17858 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 05:16:02 +0300 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA09749; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 12:20:16 +1000 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 12:20:14 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: OTT: Mod Playing To: "GEORGAKAKIS, LOUIS, MR" cc: blitz-list@HELSINKI.FI In-Reply-To: <25JUL94.21694029.0069.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Mon, 25 Jul 1994, GEORGAKAKIS,LOUIS,MR wrote: > Hi there. ok, I tried your example: > loadmedmodule 0,"Ram:Mod" > setint 5 > playmed > end setint > startmedmodule 0 > mousewait > StopMed > > It practically the same thing I've been doing, and as I said, the mod > is EXTREMELY close to the right speed...just a tad faster would be > perfect. The way it plays now is just a little too slow, cause there > is space in between each sample being played, the samples aren't > connecting at the right time to make a smooth sounding mod. > Any other ideas that might help? I've been testing out some > machine language calling, using the CALL command and the PLOAD command > but everytime I try calling something, it gives me a recoverable guru. > (I'm testing this cause I want to try to call an external mod player > source code to play the mod.) The problem is simple.. The module uses CIA timing, and you are only calling the playroutine every VBL.. - Solution: None at this point in time.. - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece, Student & Network Assistant \\\/// Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia d oo b | __ | preece@slick.clare.tased.edu.au, paul_ree@asgard.clare.tased.edu.au \__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are my own and not those of Claremont College! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Jul 27 01:16:49 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA02180 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 01:16:18 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA20212; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 10:08:11 +1200 Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 10:06:40 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: BB2, debugger window and multisync monitor To: MACIEJ GORNY cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hi Maciej, We are this week adding a wonderful new debugger that will solvve all your problems, this upgrade will be sent to all registered users not just those subscribing to the Blitz User Magazine. Of course subscribers will get an additional disk with lots of good stuff on there also. On Tue, 26 Jul 1994, MACIEJ GORNY wrote: > I use Blitz2 on a 15".28 1280x1024 NI SVGA monitor, > monitor driver I use is DBLNTSC LACED NO FLICKER with mode promotion, > When I get a debugger window (the black box on the lower half of the > screen) it is all screwed up: whole bunch of black boxes and lines > totally unreadable. I tried to use different display modes, etc... > but to no avail. It's a real pain to have to switch to standard NTSC > mode/NO mode promotion, and having to use TWO monitors to do work. > Am I missing something here? > if somebody responds to it please send also to my personal account: > gorny@saturn.rowan.edu for I don't have an immediate access to blitz- > list. Thank you, thank you, thank you if you help me out? > Maciej > gorny@saturn.rowan.edu > > From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 28 07:31:30 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA01963 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 07:31:09 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id QAA01679; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:29:24 +1200 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:28:52 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Floppy disk progs To: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <01HF73CNL0YA002CXW@email.meto.govt.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO You need the libs from the pd disks atleast, maths and disk stuff especially in libs: From blitz-list-request Thu Jul 28 07:39:53 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA02259 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 07:39:33 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id QAA01860; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:34:29 +1200 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:33:47 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: BitPlanesBitMap To: Dave Cole cc: Blitz In-Reply-To: <199407280015.KAA12967@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO No Dave, in BitplanesBitMap the destbitmap is a new bitmap that you will USE when you want to render just the shadow/halfbright bitmap using bitmap based commands. From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 29 01:15:11 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA11376 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 01:14:12 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA23085; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:12:42 +1200 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:11:29 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: library problems To: William Nolan cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, William Nolan wrote: > I know this may be old for some of you but it's a problem I just > encountered. I got the latest version of XPRZmodem and I tried to make a > blitz library out of it using FDconv. So far so good ... then I ran > makedeflibs (because libmanager wouldn't run, kept crashing), and then I > tried using one of the commands in a blitz program. I typed out > XProtocolSend_ and it converted it to some AddGadget_ command! Does > anyone know what went wrong? > > > William Nolan (wn22@cmu.edu) > > William, please use library number 218 when you convert the XPRZ library and please please tell me how you get on, I have wanted to get XPRZ on to Blitz for ages. If you still have problems let me know and I'll mail u uuencoded stuff to work with. From blitz-list-request Fri Jul 29 17:30:09 1994 Received: from po4.andrew.cmu.edu (PO4.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.11.131]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA13481 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 17:27:38 +0300 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po4.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) id KAA00871 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:27:32 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.32.pmax.ul4.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix2.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix2.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0iCF5uy00WB3BWfl9c@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:26:02 -0400 (EDT) From: William Nolan Subject: Re: library problems Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Excerpts from mail: 29-Jul-94 Re: library problems by Acid Software@iconz.co.n > William, please use library number 218 when you convert the XPRZ library > and please please tell me how you get on, I have wanted to get XPRZ on to > Blitz for ages. If you still have problems let me know and I'll mail u > uuencoded stuff to work with. okay yeah I used a different number and it worked out okay, and it seemed like the commands would work. However, I'm very rusty on my C and I could not figure out the headers at all, so I couldn't even use the XProtocolSetup function without guruing. I'm glad there's a library for this stuff, now if only there were some file that explained it's use! :-) William Nolan (wn22@cmu.edu) From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 30 04:26:26 1994 Received: from golden.ncw.net (golden.ncw.net [199.79.131.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA06123 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 04:25:52 +0300 Received: by golden.ncw.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qU335-0003gyC; Fri, 29 Jul 94 18:17 PDT Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 18:17:13 -700 (PDT) From: Joel Corn Subject: Re: library problems To: Acid Software cc: Mr M L Funnell , blitz list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Sat, 30 Jul 1994, Acid Software wrote: > > 2. I have started to use the GTGadget commands eg. List boxes and > > have found no commands to get the index of the item selected. > > However, what I have done is got the gadget base address and > > peeked around there to get the index. Surely there are commands > > to do this - but I cannot find them (the GTCommands were in the > > white user guide in BUM). Can I write my own in assembler? Yes > > is probably the answer, but I need to know how to write a > > library/extention! > > > > Use the new event commands once you have received an event, event code > and qualifier (in the Windows lib which also contains all event > processing and is getting to be a bit of a beast) known as EventCode & > EventQualifier (page 51 at the back) will tell you the index of the item > selected. WARNING! I posted a message in BlitzList regarding not using > gadget ID's less than 50, cos GadTools uses them internally! (Without > telling us of course) Hmmm, I have GadTools gadgets starting at 1 and going up from there and have had no problems whatsoever. Is there a reference for this above fifty for an ID somewhere? I've not seen it in the RKM's, and like I said, it's posed no problem for me. Then again, I'm not using the BUM#6 update 'cos it's worse than the previous version. Could this have something to do with it? And why is it you never reply to my messages Simon? Joel ***************************************************************************** * Joel A. Corn - Owner/Head Programmer darksoft@golden.ncw.net * * DarkSoft Computers/DarkSoftWare 1-509-886-0581 * ***************************************************************************** From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 30 01:49:15 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA02253 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 01:48:48 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA24335; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 10:47:08 +1200 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 10:41:56 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: library problems To: Mr M L Funnell cc: blitz list In-Reply-To: <11664.199407290726@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On 29 Jul 1994, Mr M L Funnell wrote: > > > Hi there, > > I bought Blitz2 about 3 months ago but have only started to look at > it due to uni exams, holiday etc... > > There are just a couple of points I would like to ask you: > > 1. I have both the small white user manual and the big ref manual, > but in the ref manual, it does mention a 'programmers' manual for > doing various things. Should this have been included? The white one is the programmers guide, hmm I think we ended it up calling it the user guide, I would hope that most of our users consider themselves programmers! > > 2. I have started to use the GTGadget commands eg. List boxes and > have found no commands to get the index of the item selected. > However, what I have done is got the gadget base address and > peeked around there to get the index. Surely there are commands > to do this - but I cannot find them (the GTCommands were in the > white user guide in BUM). Can I write my own in assembler? Yes > is probably the answer, but I need to know how to write a > library/extention! > Use the new event commands once you have received an event, event code and qualifier (in the Windows lib which also contains all event processing and is getting to be a bit of a beast) known as EventCode & EventQualifier (page 51 at the back) will tell you the index of the item selected. WARNING! I posted a message in BlitzList regarding not using gadget ID's less than 50, cos GadTools uses them internally! (Without telling us of course) > 3. Despite the above I would like to congratulate you on such an > excellent product. It has many commands and is FAR FAR more > powerful than AMOS Pro (what I used to use!) I do find TED > rather difficult to use(like pressing mid line etc..) > > > Please let me know about the above as I have so many ideas I would > like to get in to code (preferably avoiding too much assembler!) > > > Thanx, > > Matt. > > Matt, please email me via the Blitz List at helsinki.fi, this means my answers are available for everyone to read, otherwise we are not using the net to its full potential yes? From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 30 01:51:48 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA02310 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 01:51:39 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA24382; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 10:50:06 +1200 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 10:47:41 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: CD32 Games Question To: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk cc: blitz list In-Reply-To: <01HF9T3GLY1E003AML@email.meto.govt.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 29 Jul 1994 hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk wrote: > > Hi Acid guys, > > You said:- > > > 4. Anyone with a game nearing release wanting to see it published for > > CD32 by Acid please register your interest also. > > I just got BUM6 yesterday and it said something about you putting 4 or 5 games > on a CD to sell. What sort of standard are you looking for? (Have you seen > Starwoids that someone wrote - would this be good enough for example?). > StarWoids is me favourite game at the moment (besides Guardian) so yes yes and DEFINATELY! > Also, if my memory's up to scratch, doesn't a CD hold 600 Mb, so each game > would be expected to take about 120 Mb, ie. pretty dam big. Is this true, or > have I been in the sun too long and gone raving mad? > Expected? Why do people have to think like this? Most of us drive cars that can go 200 kph but we don't go to work at this speed do we? Quality not quanitity is true in all facets of life, CD publishing, sex, food, sex, girls, sex, programming, sex... In fact the only exception I can think of is coffee... > > Answers or sympathy appreciated, > > Matthew. > > ////////// Matthew O'Donnell ////////// modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk ///////// > > From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 30 04:49:59 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA06931 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 04:49:41 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id NAA29026; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 13:48:14 +1200 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 13:44:03 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: library problems To: Joel Corn cc: Mr M L Funnell , blitz list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO > > Hmmm, I have GadTools gadgets starting at 1 and going up from there and > have had no problems whatsoever. Is there a reference for this above > fifty for an ID somewhere? I've not seen it in the RKM's, and like I > said, it's posed no problem for me. Then again, I'm not using the BUM#6 > update 'cos it's worse than the previous version. Could this have > something to do with it? In Blitz2, we use the gadget id to find which gadget is cool. In 2.0 the dickheads who wrote gadtools assigned an id to each text line in a gtlist and numbered them 0..n n being the number of lines in the gtlist gadget. They fixed this in 3.0 but of course never documented the problem in 2.0, why fix something if you are not going to document it? > And why is it you never reply to my messages Cos you have still to make one constructive criticism, everything you mail me is just pure shit, never any reason why you are saying it, never giving me any idea why you are so upset, just bad tempered slagging off, do you blame me? From blitz-list-request Sat Jul 30 12:20:54 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA17773 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 12:20:17 +0300 Received: from mdw022.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-9 #6430) id <01HFBU3Y92TC98BFU8@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 19:19:57 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw022.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id TAA09868; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 19:19:39 +1000 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 18:50:13 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: New Documentation In-reply-to: To: Acid Software Cc: Basic II Blitz Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Sun, 24 Jul 1994, Acid Software wrote: > > OK voting time: > > keep publishing bums, leave new docs until blitz3 which should have > linker and modern '90's editor instead of 'baby' ted, use money to employ > programmers to get blitz3 out early 94 > I think this is the best option (blitz 3) but I was wondering would it be possible to simply continue on with bums and gradually update blitz 2 to version 3. Say new editor on bum 7, linker on bum 8 :) I also have a wihlist (for now) of that things that I would like to see in future versions of blitz. Blitz 3 perhaps? o Code generation for ALL 68020/30/40 including 68881/882/040 fpu code (possible MMU code as well) Since that would be a hairy thing to do (writting all that xtra code) I would settle (for now) for support of the above in inline assembly o Linker (but that's planned anyway) o Equivalent of C++ classes All of the above truly excellent language for development of some serious stuff but I doubt you could call it Basic anymore ;-) > republish docs in ringbinder so Blitz2 is on the shelves for XMas and > upgrade current users using profit for the above > > put Blitz2 into pd, publish all docs on disk, support users by publishing > their software and concentrate on supporting Amiga by py publishing lots > of choice software > > Anyway, apologies for thinking aloud, feedback from you users would be > appreciated, > Ringbinder would be GREAT but who would print the pages with new instructions? Acid? Or would they be mailed/email in postscript format? Personally I think the best option (in my opinion) would be to publish manual with standard commands as it was done till now (although ringbinder is nicer to use) and then have all the updated instruction, new libraries in AmigaGuide format. This I wouldn't have HEAPS of printouts all over my room. The idea of supporting user software is really geat and I think you should follow it in one way or the other. Well, it just my $0.02 Maciek. From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 1 07:41:10 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA20242 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 07:39:31 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id QAA20406; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 16:33:50 +1200 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 16:32:40 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: List Error? To: tom duncan cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <199408012246.AA23476@zeus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Re values in lists, tom, yes you are right, elements in lists are not initialised, we thought this would be very slow, if you need to initialise the contents I would add an init routine and call it your self... From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 1 06:44:59 1994 Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA18967 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 06:43:35 +0300 Received: from hareth (hareth.cm.deakin.edu.au [128.184.80.165]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA08814; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 13:42:23 +1000 From: Mark Kuzmycz Received: by hareth (5.0/client-1.3) id AA01662; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 13:41:40 --1000 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 13:41:40 --1000 Message-Id: <9408010341.AA01662@hareth> To: duncan@zeus.usq.edu.au Subject: Re: List Error? Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII content-length: 611 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO >From blitz-list-request@cc.helsinki.fi Mon Aug 1 13:32:53 1994 >From: tom duncan >Subject: List Error? >To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi >Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 12:41:28 +1000 (EST) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi, all > >I am having a problem with lists. (Sound familiar) > >Here is a demo piece of code. >Pick the problem when running this little demo. > >y and z are not cleared. >If you re-use the list you will get old values appearing. >Bit of a worry this. Like most languages Blitz Basic does not guarentee that variables are cleared when created. Mark. From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 3 03:46:24 1994 Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA18082 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 03:45:52 +0300 Received: from hareth (hareth.cm.deakin.edu.au [128.184.80.165]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA25416; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:44:51 +1000 From: Mark Kuzmycz Received: by hareth (5.0/client-1.3) id AA01881; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:43:21 --1000 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:43:21 --1000 Message-Id: <9408030043.AA01881@hareth> To: acid@iconz.co.nz Subject: questions Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII content-length: 1069 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Bug or something. When I have a superbitmap with a window the window doesn't open to the specified dimensions. Is this a bug or have I done something wrong? Smart Refresh verses Superbitmap I have looked at using a superbitmap however when I scroll the window I find that the window with the superbitmap is considerably slower than the window without the bitmap. Should the superbitmap be that much slower slower. If not what could have I done wrong? Third I've been looking at setting up a clip region I've used the code similar to that below (minus any syntax errors or misstypes) region.l = NewRegion_ *win.Window = peek.l(Addr Window(0)) rect.Rectangle\MinX = 10, 10, 50, 50 OrRectRegion_ region, &rect oldregion.l = InstallClipRegion_(*win\WLayer, region) do something if(InstallClipRegion_(*win\WLayer, oldregion) <> 0) DisposeRegion_ region endif When I run this the program hangs at the first InstallClipRegion_ command. Is there any reason why this command hangs. Is is incompatible with blitz's debugger? Any help would be welcomed. Thanks Mark. From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 3 12:45:05 1994 Received: from triode.apana.org.au (triode.apana.org.au [202.12.88.58]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA23547 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 12:44:01 +0300 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 11:31:35 +0000 From: Neil Miller Subject: Re: Floppy disk progs To: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <01HF73CNL0YA002CXW@email.meto.govt.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 27 Jul 1994 hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk wrote: > > Greetings Blitz-folk, > > I'm having trouble transfering a Blitz game I've written to floppy-disk. > I wrote in on an A1200 with hard drive, made an executable and put this > and all the shape files it loads onto a floppy. > > When I then try running it from floppy, it loads the executable, then > it loads something from the harddrive (I don't know what), then continues > to load in the shapes from the floppy - and it runs ok. Run dostrace or snoopy or snoopdos and see what it is loading! > > I then tried it on my friends A1200 without a hard drive, and after loading > the executable it asks you to put in the workbench disk (or whatever you > booted with) and it loads something, then crashes. > > (If I boot my friends machine with the Blitz Basic disk, it loads something > from this, and then runs OK). > > The question is, what is it trying to load from the workbench disk? And > why? Surely once you've made an executable it should run as a stand-alone > program? > > Any clever people know whats going on? > > > -Matt. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > / | | \ > \ | Matthew O'Donnell | Tel: (44) 0344 856993 | / > / | Hadley Centre, * Email: modonnell@email.meto.govt.uk | \ > \ | UK Met. Office. | | / > / | | \ > \ | Working on following Blitz projects... | / > / | Pingwynne [game - 98% complete] | \ > \ | GhostBlaster [WB game - 15 % complete] | / > / | Escape from planet Chegwin [game - 0% complete] | \ > \_|____________________________________________________________________|_/ > \|/ -O"O- ----------------------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------ T E X neil@triode.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 3 15:22:46 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09821 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 15:22:13 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 13:20:43 +0100 Message-Id: <11484.199408031216@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 13:16:02 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 03 Aug 94 13:09:00 BST Subject: Re: Floppy disk progs To: Neil Miller Cc: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > The question is, what is it trying to load from the workbench disk? And > why? Surely once you've made an executable it should run as a stand- > alone program? I had virtually the same problem with my machine except that mine gurued! An executable will NOT run as a stand-alone program. It still requires any libraries that you have used. If you use a hex viewer/editor and scan for the word 'library' , then you can find identify all the libraries that your program needs to run. I had used the GTScroller commands, thus the exe file contains the library file gadtools.library. Check your files for this sort of stuff and copy across the library files as well. Cya, Another Matt. From mlf27308@ggr.co.uk Thu Aug 4 19:58:43 1994 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09821 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 15:22:13 +0300 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 13:20:43 +0100 Message-Id: <11484.199408031216@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Received: from UKSYSA.ggr.co.uk by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 13:16:02 +0100 From: Mr M L Funnell Date: 03 Aug 94 13:09:00 BST Subject: Re: Floppy disk progs To: Neil Miller Cc: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > The question is, what is it trying to load from the workbench disk? And > why? Surely once you've made an executable it should run as a stand- > alone program? I had virtually the same problem with my machine except that mine gurued! An executable will NOT run as a stand-alone program. It still requires any libraries that you have used. If you use a hex viewer/editor and scan for the word 'library' , then you can find identify all the libraries that your program needs to run. I had used the GTScroller commands, thus the exe file contains the library file gadtools.library. Check your files for this sort of stuff and copy across the library files as well. Cya, Another Matt. From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 00:42:49 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA10551 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 00:42:28 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id JAA17869; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:36:44 +1200 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:35:38 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Shape loading To: "Ott M. Aaloe" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <494F2A313E6@microlnk.ml.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO To do a cludge shape command you will need to allocate your own memory, and then fill in the shape object structure by hand, the object is in the appendix of the reference manual. Do you want a CludgeShape command? From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 4 00:45:25 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA10785 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 00:45:14 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id JAA17931; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:39:14 +1200 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 09:37:55 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Floppy disk progs To: Mr M L Funnell cc: Neil Miller , hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <11484.199408031216@mailhub.ggr.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On 3 Aug 1994, Mr M L Funnell wrote: > > The question is, what is it trying to load from the workbench disk? And > > why? Surely once you've made an executable it should run as a stand- > > alone program? > > I had virtually the same problem with my machine except that mine > gurued! An executable will NOT run as a stand-alone program. It still > requires any libraries that you have used. If you use a hex viewer/editor > and scan for the word 'library' , then you can find identify all the > libraries that your program needs to run. > If you don't have such a program just "type file opt h to ram:test" then "ed ram:test", > I had used the GTScroller commands, thus the exe file contains the > library file gadtools.library. > Ummm, gadtools.library is in ROM isn't it?????? > Check your files for this sort of stuff and copy across the library > files as well. > > > Cya, > > Another Matt. > > > > From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 5 00:59:19 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA19022 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 00:58:51 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id JAA03276; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 09:53:10 +1200 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 09:52:16 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: DisplayLib/Copper question To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <14ECF65DC8@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hi Martin, yes yes yes, I'll try and get you latest version this weekend for beta testing. Cool how you can use the copper to wrap around the scrolling vertically eh? From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 5 13:58:25 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA00790 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:58:13 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id WAA23792; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 22:52:21 +1200 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 22:49:39 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Display Library To: NIGEL HUGHES cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <5156.776072251@aber.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 5 Aug 1994, NIGEL HUGHES wrote: > Hello guys, > Just a quick question. I am using Display lib (excellent stuff) > for a game I am writing, and all of a sudden a problem appeared. When I > quick the program I get a blank screen, if you click on the unseen > screen-to-back gadget up pops the blitz screen or wb screen if run > as an executable. This suddenly seemed to start doing this so it MUST > be something I am doing as it didn't do it to start with. > Hmmm, can't remember, oh yes, if you use the right mouse button to exit your program you will get this problem as, hmmm, dunno why, I guess an RMB up with out an RMB means, no, god knows, anyway is this the answer? (is it in fact any answer?) > The other note for Acid is... Is there any chance of including > some '020 and '030 instructions/addressing modes into Blitz on the > assembler side, the game I am writing would benefit muchly from them. I have asked Mark, not so cool at the moment, please give me an example of which adressing modes especially you would like, I'd love to build you some macros to implement them as I love doing stupid things with macros. Regards, Simon From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 8 04:18:18 1994 Received: from VX22.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx22.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.22]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA21067 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 04:14:58 +0300 Received: from mdw044.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-9 #6430) id <01HFNXRJD5V498EBMO@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:14:44 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw044.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id LAA09079; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 11:14:35 +1000 Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:13:42 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: Display Library In-reply-to: <14584.776085480@aber.ac.uk> To: NIGEL HUGHES Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 5 Aug 1994, NIGEL HUGHES wrote: > Acid, > HA! What kind of an answer is that ? *8) Never mind, so it was of > those awkward bugs that just hang around being, um, awkward. Never mind, > I am not exiting with RMB though, but with the fire button in Port 2. Jeez > can't stand computers my self. > > '020 instructions, well, ah oh, I was chatting to this chap and he > was going over my bits of code and he says, "You're writing this for a 1200 > or above right" , I say "RIGHT!", he says why don't you use any 020 > stuff in there, my face fell and I looked at my feet as I realised, I don't > have a list of the 020 OR 030 instructions set/addressing modes, I just > know they are really cool, or so I have heard. BUT! I am going to London > today so if I see a book with them thangs in you fancy giving it a go? > > Has anyone got a details as above for 020/030/040? I'd love ya > forever. > > Bye bye, > > Nigel Hughes. > > -This message was brought to you by Nobby the scurrying mailer daemon and > his little brother Trevor. Sorry it's a bit burned. > Check out Asmkurs.lha doc on Aminet. It explains new instructions and addressing modes that are found on 020 CPU. Maciek. From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 8 14:48:28 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA21685 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 14:47:55 +0300 Received: from mailhost.aber.ac.uk (actually thorbb.dcs.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Aug 1994 12:47:48 +0100 To: NIGEL HUGHES , blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: 68020 stuff. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:38:08 BST." <2007.776342288@aber.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 12:47:37 +0100 Message-ID: <18498.776346457@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: M Richards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO In message <2007.776342288@aber.ac.uk>, NIGEL HUGHES writes: > > Have you all heard? The UK management by-out has got the big C! > They plan to be back to normal by Novemeber, well here's hoping! Slight correction, C= UK have put the best bid in for the remains of Commodore. The deal hasn't actually been signed yet - wait a couple of weeks or so for that. But the liquidators are obliged to take the highest offer for the company. C= may be renamed Amiga International, the complete range of Commodore products will continue to be made and R and D will continue in the US. Its the best that C= could have hoped for. Now - when can we expect AAA ? Mike. You can reach Mike Richards at the following /@\ \|/ address ... (if you're that desperate). `-\ \ ______ - 0 - \ \/ ` / \ /|\ _ mhr@aber.ac.uk \_i / \ |\____// | |==| |=----/ ---- Why not drop me a line ...? -------------------hn/--hn/----------- From blitz-list-request Sun Aug 14 11:18:37 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA25444 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 1994 11:16:22 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id UAA05868; Sun, 14 Aug 1994 20:10:48 +1200 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 20:09:59 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Map Editor To: HANG-FIRE cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <94081213184472@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hi Steve(s) I am endeavouring to sort out all gadtools problems this week, hoping to post 1.9 to everyone real soon (more improvements made to debugger over weekend)... From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 11:25:41 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA20916 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 11:22:30 +0300 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually mailsun.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 15 Aug 1994 09:22:16 +0100 To: "Ott M. Aaloe" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi, nlh1@aber.ac.uk Subject: Re: Bitmap problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Aug 1994 11:45:13 +0300." <59E4A114B29@microlnk.ml.ee> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 09:22:14 +0100 Message-ID: <3977.776938934@aber.ac.uk> From: NIGEL HUGHES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO In message <59E4A114B29@microlnk.ml.ee>, "Ott M. Aaloe" writes: > > I've had EXACTLY the same problem. I can use 1,2,3,4,5 or 7 bitplanes, but > not > > 6! I discovered this when trying to use the *BLIT commands. It seems that > > Mark (or whoever wrote the displaylibs) is still using the trick of > > 6 bitplanes + no HAM = EHB. It works in OCS and ECS, but not on AGA :( > > NOTE: This is only an educated GUESS. If anyone knows better (or how to get > > around this) please let us 64-colour users know :) > > I managed to display 64 colour (6 plane) pic but the palette was > wrong??? > Someone in list told that his game uses 64 colour (AGA - not > EHB) slice and > it works OK. May be U can explain how U init your coplist as I think > there's the problem. Thanx! Well my new game is written using the display library and opens a 64 colour non-halfbrite screen, I think what you will find the problem may be connected to the fact that you have to SET the no half-brite bit ($40?). Seem to remember me thinking it was the other way round, then just trying it and hey! But it is perfectly possible. Easy peasy. Lemon Squeezy. Nigel Hughes, who last night spent 6 hours looking for a bug that was caused by not initialising a variable. Stupid, yes. Tired, yes. Grumpy, yes. Better not mention it, uh-huh. > > O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) > From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 14:03:33 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA04698 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 14:02:25 +0300 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 12:00:23 +0100 Message-Id: <94081512002379@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: OTT@microlnk.ml.ee, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Bitmap problem X-VMS-To: SMTP%"OTT@microlnk.ml.ee" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 15-AUG-1994 >> I've had EXACTLY the same problem. I can use 1,2,3,4,5 or 7 bitplanes, but not >> 6! I discovered this when trying to use the *BLIT commands. It seems that >> Mark (or whoever wrote the displaylibs) is still using the trick of >> 6 bitplanes + no HAM = EHB. It works in OCS and ECS, but not on AGA :( >> NOTE: This is only an educated GUESS. If anyone knows better (or how to get >> around this) please let us 64-colour users know :) > >I managed to display 64 colour (6 plane) pic but the palette was >wrong??? >Someone in list told that his game uses 64 colour (AGA - not >EHB) slice and >it works OK. May be U can explain how U init your coplist as I think >there's the problem. Thanx! Our game uses a 64 colour picture on a 8 bitplane display. No matter what I did for the in game stuff, though, I could not get the screen to display properly in 6 bitplanes. The palette was corrupted, the only solution I came up with was to increase the depth to 7 or decrease to 5. Maybe this is a problem for ACID (or whoever understands the display library ;-)) to look at. Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| Gripes : My map editor's a bit buggy | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | Current project : BlitzBombers AGA | | | [##############################::::] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v??? | | | [###########################:::::::] | | Help me:ANIM8 file format please! | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.1| | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [##############################BUGS] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 15 14:54:24 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA08809 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 14:52:48 +0300 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually mailsun.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 15 Aug 1994 12:52:43 +0100 To: "M.Carter" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi, nlh1@aber.ac.uk In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:57:31 +0300." <12726.9408151057@gcal.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 12:52:41 +0100 Message-ID: <16450.776951561@aber.ac.uk> From: NIGEL HUGHES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO In message <12726.9408151057@gcal.ac.uk>, "M.Carter" writes: > > Hello all. I have just joined the blitz list. I have a > number of points to make, and hope that someone > can answer them. Welcome to the list.. > 1) SUSPECTED BUG > =============== > I telephoned Acid Software in Britain, but there is no > technical support there. They said I could write to > New Zealand. As you can imagine, I find > this fairly naff. Is there any way that I can contact > someone to have it fixed? Do the developers read this > list? OK one at a time, the bug I leave to Acid, but I have to say something in their defense here. Have you ever tried to get technical support on a Gold Disk product? The address is in the U.S. Gold Disk are a BIGISH software company. Acid are a SMALLISH company that comprises of a bunch of approachable guys who are out there supporting the Amiga AND their product TO THE BEST OF THEIR FINANCIAL ABILITY. Naff, no, just a shame. > 2) A DIFFERENT SUSPECTED BUG Acid are, I believe, sorting this out. > 3) MAKEDEFLIBS > ============= > > When I try to load the MAKEDEFS program, I get a > message saying "Not enough memory". The computer > then guru's on me. > > Currently my blitzlibs drawer is a mess - filled with > .res and .bb files all over the place. It is my opinion > that Blitz Basic should not have been supplied in > compressed format. Does anyone feel the same about > the User Magazine? I would rather pay just a bit more > to have EVERYTHING decompressed. After all, I have > to use extra disks to store decompressed files. Even then, > I might find .lha files within them. This amounts to a > massive sortout operation. From the user's point of > view, there is no economic savings in being > supplied with compressed disks - quite the reverse. > Does anyone agree? Yes and no. I would have liked more complete documentation on the desired disk structure for Blitz, from Acid, they should really consider using lha and the CBM installer. But most software comes compressed now, Dpaint and Wordworth are just two that spring readily to mind. > 4) POINTERS > ========== > Do you understand what I mean? Is it possible? If I do understand what you mean, may I suggest that you look up Push(Item) and Pop(Item) in your Blitz reference manual, I cannot remember if the (item) is there or not 8) WHAT ABOUT 5? > > 6) AMIGADOS > ============ Sorry, don't touch the stuff. > 7) UP/DOWN LOADING FILES > ======================== Yes you can, you have two options. 1) Compress the programs and their data into a single file using lha. Log onto an Aminet site (src.doc.ic.ac.uk for example) get all the readme files about uploading. Read them. Upload as binary your .lha file and the .readme. Mail Blitz-List and tell us all about your great software. 2) Compress the programs and their data into a single file using lharc UUEncode them and mail them to the blitz-list and p*ss some people off. > Supplementary question : can anyone send me "Green > Five"? It was reviewed in Amiga Format, and got an > exceptional review. I know that this list is the slightly > wrong place to ask for this sort of thing - but I am > too tight to spend 1.50 {it seems that some PD > companies (no inference intended about 17 Bit > Software - the advertisers of "Green Five") > distribute software not on a particularly > not-for-profit basis}. Hum, try Aminet site... Don't get me wrong, welcome to the list. But try to keep this in mind, Acid is run by just a few people, generally BBII is great, I can have a bit of patience. Here's looking at you, Nigel From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 16 04:19:09 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA25236 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 04:17:18 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id NAA28406; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:01:02 +1200 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:01:01 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Bitmap problem To: "Ott M. Aaloe" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <59E4A114B29@microlnk.ml.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO I'll be looking at 64 color displays today, I remember setting the EHB disable flag so the AGA chip did not default to EHB, hmmm, maybe I fixed it last week. I'll post the displaylib if I can get it working. (of course I'll get it working) Simon From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 16 04:18:42 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA25739 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 04:16:53 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id NAA29065; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:07:10 +1200 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:07:09 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Bitmap problem To: NIGEL HUGHES cc: "Ott M. Aaloe" , blitz-list@helsinki.fi, nlh1@aber.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <3977.776938934@aber.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Oh shit, you mean the kill ehb flag is actually enable ehb, do i change the docs or the library? From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 16 04:19:00 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA26079 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 04:17:08 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id NAA29811; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:10:35 +1200 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:10:33 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Pausing programs To: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <01HFXKEUVKYA000MXQ@email.meto.govt.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Use the DOS call, hmmm Wait_ I think it is called. From blitz-list-request Thu Aug 18 09:30:59 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA02189 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 09:28:14 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id SAA07861; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 18:21:11 +1200 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 18:21:10 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Bitplane moving To: Dave Cole cc: Blitz In-Reply-To: <199408160522.PAA19903@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Move individual bitplanes? If you are going to ask such bizarre questions a little outline of what you are trying to acheive may help us offer advise. Two ways spring to mind.. Use bitplanesbitmap to isolate the single bitmap and call scroll, if it is only 1 bitplane scroll will be nice and fast. If I had a sixbitplane bitmap as bitmap 0 I would go... bitplanesbitmap 0,1,2^n ;n is the bitplane I want to scroll then anytime I wanted to scroll it: use bitmap 1:scroll .... The other way would be to hit the bitplane object in memory, make sure it is not the first bitplane you want to use and do the following: ad.l=addr bitmap(0)+8+n*4 ;where n is the bitplane (not 0!) cpos.l=peek.l(ad) ;current position of plane in memory poke.l ad,cpos+int(x/16)*2+y*bitplanewidth Next time you do a show the bitplane we just hit will be offset by x,y, note however you can only scroll in x in multiples of 16, so this method sucks. Last method would be using the 64 wide sprites as an extra playfield and writing som machine code routines to display data in them. I'm not going to write them. Love and flowers, Simon From blitz-list-request Sat Aug 20 06:51:38 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA11596 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 06:51:16 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id PAA12583; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 15:45:39 +1200 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 15:45:39 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Vwait 250 To: Martin Kift cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <4F84520332@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hi Martin, Wow, no wonder starwoids was a little on the slow side, Mark says knock back the VWait to 50 unless you are closing a file that you have just written to, in which case you probably need 250 before going to Blitz to be on the safe side. I think you are going to like the new display library.... Simon From blitz-list-request Sat Aug 20 15:26:13 1994 Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu (PO2.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.102]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA15621 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 15:25:57 +0300 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) id IAA03002; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 08:25:54 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 08:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 08:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 08:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.32.pmax.ul4.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Sat, 20 Aug 1994 08:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 08:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: William Nolan To: Martin Kift Subject: Re: Vwait 250 Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Ok I looked thru the Ref. Manual and I found this interesting little hack. I say hack because I'm sure it's probably not a good idea to do stuff like this, but hey, taking over the system isn't very nice either :). Anyway, use this at your own risk. All it does is check the bit in PRB to see whether the disk motor is on or not. It SAYS in the manual that this bit also tells you whether the drive light is on or off, so it should work. I dunno ... all I can say is try it on a blank floppy before you use it on DH0: .. here it is: ; (hopefully) waits until disk activity ; is done after startup and allows the program to continue (to avoid ; messing up the disk when taking over the system). CIA_B_PRB equ $bfd100 ; Peripheral Data Reg. Port B WaitForDiskActivityToFinish: move.b CIA_B_PRB,d0 and.b #%10000000,d0 ; check the 8th bit cmp.b #0,d0 ; if it's equal to 0, then... beq.s WaitForDiskActivityToFinish ; the motor is on, so loop... William Nolan (wn22@cmu.edu) From blitz-list-request Sun Aug 21 10:32:06 1994 Received: from wyrm.cc.uow.edu.au (wyrm.cc.uow.edu.au [130.130.68.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA20770 for ; Sun, 21 Aug 1994 10:30:33 +0300 Received: from wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au [130.130.68.6]) by wyrm.cc.uow.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA16187; Sun, 21 Aug 1994 17:30:21 +1000 From: david briggs Received: (briggsy@localhost) by wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id RAA02651; Sun, 21 Aug 1994 17:30:20 +1000 Message-Id: <199408210730.RAA02651@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au> Subject: Re: XPK To: mcox@access.digex.net (M D Cox) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 17:30:19 +1000 (EST) Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <199408081202.AA26889@access3.digex.net> from "M D Cox" at Aug 8, 94 08:02:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 603 X-Status: Status: RO I have been using the XPK - XFH combination for a couple of months now with no problems whatsoever. It was a bit of a pain to setup (2 hours) but it is well worth the trouble. I managed to reclaim about 16 meg by compressing my GAMES, UTILITIES and WORK directories. I am running a 1200 with 40 meg HD, so I was quit happy to regain that much space. I don't know what it would be like running XPK on a 68000 machine, but on an 020 there isn't a great deal of waiting. It is a lot less than loading a Powerpacked file (uncrunching). The files you want are on the Aminet: xpk25user.lha & XFH1_39.lha From blitz-list-request Sun Aug 21 10:45:11 1994 Received: from wyrm.cc.uow.edu.au (wyrm.cc.uow.edu.au [130.130.68.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA21066 for ; Sun, 21 Aug 1994 10:44:06 +0300 Received: from wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au [130.130.68.6]) by wyrm.cc.uow.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA16293; Sun, 21 Aug 1994 17:43:59 +1000 From: david briggs Received: (briggsy@localhost) by wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.4) id RAA03019; Sun, 21 Aug 1994 17:43:57 +1000 Message-Id: <199408210743.RAA03019@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au> Subject: REQ BGUIDE To: j.valks@hsbos.nl (Jurgen Valks) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 17:43:57 +1000 (EST) Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <4A18E331CB6@ms1.hsbos.nl> from "Jurgen Valks" at Aug 14, 94 11:36:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 25 X-Status: Status: RO one BGUIDE please. :-) From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 22 12:30:41 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA26095 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:28:21 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:28:16 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:27:25 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:28:26 +0300 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:28:26 +0300 X400-Originator: mca@glasgow-caledonian.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<2187.9408220928@gcal.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: ALL: Arex... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: "M.Carter" Message-ID: <2187.9408220928@gcal.ac.uk> To: BB4H@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA, blitz-list@HELSINKI.fi Subject: Re: ALL: Arexx Help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO I too would like an ARexx tutorial , and I expect other people would too. How about it, then? I have no idea how ARexx works, but it looks useful. From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 22 15:20:26 1994 Received: from triode.apana.org.au (triode.apana.org.au [202.12.88.58]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA11785 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:18:36 +0300 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 11:51:06 +0000 From: Neil Miller Subject: Re: About INCBIN To: "GEORGAKAKIS, LOUIS, MR" cc: blitz-list@HELSINKI.FI In-Reply-To: <11AUG94.25123028.0248.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Very soon, Richard Elmore will be releasing his "INCLUDE" library, this will allow you to do what you want! \|/ -O"O- ----------------------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------ T E X neil@triode.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 24 00:54:13 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA16146 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 00:53:12 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id JAA02234; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 09:47:23 +1200 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 09:47:22 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: GadTools on OS2.0 To: HANG-FIRE cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <94082311594878@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO At present: OS2 gadtools compatability needs: * use id's of over 50 if you are using gtlists as in os2 the gtlists themselves use id's over 10 * use the latest gadtools library which follows * let me know of any problems, have you got a softkick 2.0/ kickstart setup, I lost mine a while ago... begin 644 gt.lha M&X`M;&@U+6,;``#9:@``,GX7'0``!6=T;&EB?>03H'N7VC<;?^+F/,__N/2Y^$)-]K]C":=/69:LO/.0&KMVWV7T M^+ZX3]G4_ME.`4OI:"\S0TYH>1KK?"=HS>#`=IMF$^@^=S?.^W=XC7'G8(67T M88#9D-\_$;@.^,Z\;`\&L,PPLPW+X@[)FL6#!Q&IN-P^B:\RT`J9QN"$UUY\V0 M*`[\`F)0C,1!!O886WG67#;[+F(\!!L%Q]YQQ:!QMH[ZUSBN.'6P<*T$+X;3? 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Very useful for protecting any type of files................. > Engima has been broken so it wouldn't be very secure but if you implement data encryption that's used on the net (I can't remember the name off the top of my head but I can supply you with it and maybe even the site of the source) then I'll be very interested. Maciek. From blitz-list-request Fri Aug 26 11:11:39 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA10300 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 1994 11:11:09 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <16658-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:11:01 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 26 Aug 94 9:18:03 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 26 Aug 94 9:17:55 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: James Savage Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:17:47 GMT0BST Subject: Re: DisplayLib Fades CC: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO > I've just been messing with DisplayLib and I can set up a 320x256x8 > display, but I really want to fade a bitmap on and off it. FadeIn and > FadeOut don't work, is there an alternative? Use the RIBlitzLibs commands PalInfo and PalAdjust. HAng on, I'll try and write some code now, although its bound not to work since I don't have my manual in front of me. 8) SOrry for mistakes, but I'm sure Steve will correct me if I get it wrong, he loves doing that 8) ; I always render to a separate pal, to maintain the original ; although you can do this in one pal if you want. If you render ; to a separate pal, make sure it has the same number of colours. ; the delay param should be a small number. You can also change the ; rate by altering the step number, I typically use 0.02 or 4 etc ; remember to have your bitmap set to black first. Looks nicer. statement MyFadeIn{coplist.b,srcpal.w,targetpal.w,delay.w} PalInfo srcpal for i=0 to 1 step 0.01 PalAdjust i,targetpal DisplayPalette coplist,targetpal vwait delay next i end statement statement MyFadeOut{coplist.b,srcpal.w,targetpal.w,delay.w} PalInfo srcpal for i=1 to 0 step -0.01 PalAdjust i,targetpal DisplayPalette coplist,targetpal vwait delay next i end statement +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift | Software developer (C/C++/OWL/MFC) | | Email: M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk | Procede Software Ltd., UK. | +---------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Mon Aug 29 19:42:36 1994 Received: from mailhost.phantom.com (spock.phantom.com [198.67.3.9]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA22389 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:40:28 +0300 Received: from mindvox (mindvox.phantom.com) by mailhost.phantom.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26885; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:01:33 EDT Received: by mindvox (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16530; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:39:15 EDT Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:39:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Siklos Subject: Re: Is this list still alive??? To: "Ott M. Aaloe" Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <104BD23452@microlnk.ml.ee> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Ott M. Aaloe wrote: > Hi! > > Does anybody still reading this list... > Something seems to be wrong coz I get 3-4 days old messages > and ...well it's good if 1-2 messages per day arrives :( > (2-3 weeks ago everything was quite normal - atleast 10 or more > msg per day was sure thing) > Is somethign wrong with the listserver or the # of subscribers > is very low??? Comments? > > O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) > > Hey I know the feeling. Because I've been wondering the same thing! what's going on folks ? Did everyone go on vacation at the same time ? let's get some discussions going. I need some advice on the best way to simulate the spinning wheels of slot machine and would like to use AGA screens for highest resolution and colors I've tried blitting some shapes but it's too slow. I am new to blitz and I'm doing this as a learning experience. So any help will recieve my undying gratititude ,admiration and utter respect. (was that a little thick ? or what ?) Thanks in Advance gsiklos@phantom.com From blitz-list-request Tue Aug 30 18:26:30 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA17402 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 18:26:16 +0300 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 16:22:35 +0100 Message-Id: <94083016223570@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: gsiklos@phantom.com, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Is this list still alive??? X-VMS-To: SMTP%"gsiklos@phantom.com" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: 30-AUG-1994 >On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Ott M. Aaloe wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Does anybody still reading this list... >> Something seems to be wrong coz I get 3-4 days old messages >> and ...well it's good if 1-2 messages per day arrives :( >> (2-3 weeks ago everything was quite normal - atleast 10 or more >> msg per day was sure thing) >> Is somethign wrong with the listserver or the # of subscribers >> is very low??? Comments? >> >> O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) I think you'll find that most people are either on holiday or at home for the summer. I suspect that most people on the list are students, in which case they'll most probably be away from university until October. >Hey I know the feeling. Because I've been wondering the same thing! what's >going on folks ? Did everyone go on vacation at the same time ? let's get >some discussions going. I need some advice on the best way to simulate the >spinning wheels of slot machine and would like to use AGA screens for >highest resolution and colors I've tried blitting some shapes but it's too >slow. I am new to blitz and I'm doing this as a learning experience. So >any help will recieve my undying gratititude ,admiration and utter respect. >(was that a little thick ? or what ?) I'll have a think about this one. One quick idea: How about having the very tall bitmap and having the whole wheel drawn on this. You could then just scroll over from this bitmap to your bitmap the area you're interested in viewing. Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| My map editor's NOT a bit buggy ! | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | Current project : BlitzBombers AGA | | | [##############################::::] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v??? | | | [###########################:::::::] | | Help me:ANIM8 file format please! | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.2 | | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [#################################:] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Wed Aug 31 12:38:32 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA18559 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 12:37:48 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id VAA06598; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 21:32:07 +1200 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 21:32:05 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Mem Fragmentation - half solved To: "Ott M. Aaloe" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <88227B0DC7@microlnk.ml.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Ott M. Aaloe wrote: > > Finally, we call AllocMem_ with a huge value a lot. This defrags the > > memory to a large extent. > > > I had same idea in mind. Can you explain a bit this bitmap cludge'ing. > I had some problems with it. What exactly does this cludgebitmap > command want? Addres of a bitmap itself or the whole bitmap object > structure? Must I create my own bitmap struct by hand?? Hmm..yes > here comes my other question. Someone explained once this but I lost wo how about starting a new line once in a while ott! Anyway, the bitmap structure for blitz is just the object size, there is a pointer in this object that point to chipmem, be it a screensbitmap your bitmap or a cludged bitmap. cludgebitmap does not allocate ANY memory, instead uses withwords*height*bitplanes amount of the memory you supplied > this msg so here it comes. How can I create blitz objects without > useing blitz commands to allocate them. For example I think it's not > wise to oad 10 samples one by one into memory. Instead I thought I > link all samples into one piece, alloc some chip and load linked > samples into it. Here's the problem - how I suppose to tell blitz that > I have sound object #1 starting from addr x, sound #2 startting from > x+z etc.?? > > O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) > > v1.9 contains decode commands that allow you to incbin sound, shapes etc into your program and then decode them, although these commands are accessible in RILibs and Elmore's include library I have decided to internalise them so that memory usage is both tight and tidy (minimum requirements and least amount of fragmenting), hmmm, hoping to have your current headaches sorted with this release... p.s. if it didn't take me so long to test my code for such things before releasing it bum7 would have been finished tonight... From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 1 00:57:20 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA08883 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 00:57:01 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id JAA03428; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:51:00 +1200 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:50:59 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Mem Fragmentation - half solved To: "Ott M. Aaloe" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <8BA4F8626C@microlnk.ml.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Ott M. Aaloe wrote: > > wo how about starting a new line once in a while ott! Anyway, the bitmap > > structure for blitz is just the object size, there is a pointer in this > > object that point to chipmem, be it a screensbitmap your bitmap or a > > cludged bitmap. cludgebitmap does not allocate ANY memory, instead uses > > withwords*height*bitplanes amount of the memory you supplied > > So if need to cludge bitmap I do next?? > > 1. Alooc chip > 2. Load pure bitmpadata into it > 3. Cludge bitmap #, addr,x,y etc. > > Now I should have bitmap obkect created by cludgebitmap. Am I right? > Most of the time you allocate a large bit of memory and cludge ALL your bitmaps into it, so you are never freeing them, in skid we have the huge scrolling playfield, this memory is also used for all the front end bitmaps so the same memory is allocated to more than one bitplane, works good if you only use one at a time and we don't have to free and initialise bitmaps at all. > > > v1.9 contains decode commands that allow you to incbin sound, shapes etc > > into your program and then decode them, although these commands are > > accessible in RILibs and Elmore's include library I have decided to > > internalise them so that memory usage is both tight and tidy (minimum > > requirements and least amount of fragmenting), hmmm, > > Next question is where can I get V1.9 ;)??? > It is in w0:Blitz2/m on my A4000!!! From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 1 01:03:01 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA09041 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 01:02:52 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id JAA03667; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:57:20 +1200 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:57:19 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Hello (and help) To: Automatic Television cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <9408311723.aa10982@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Automatic Television wrote: > Thanks for the reply (s): > > >From: Jurgen Valks > >Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch > >Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 14:28:55 GMT-1DFT > > >>loop: > >> a$=edit$(1) > >> If a$<>"q" Then Goto loop > >> > > >Put WBSTARTUP in your program and check it out. > > Tried it first, no joy. I think it`s more system`y than that. > I just fixed a bug in edit$ to do with window based edit$, I'll test it again to make sure > > Gadtools has a problem on older machines ie. not KS3.x where you > >need to use ID's of over 50 - try that and see what happens. > > > I posted a uuencoded upgrade to gadtools last week, one report says it is better, I'd like more confirmation (from you guys perhaps?) > BUM6 came through the post. (I bought Blitz2 from Amiga Format`s special offer > several months ago) IntuiTools2 is quite useable now!! > I don`t beleive I`m allowed to upload this as it`s the full working version > but hows about Acid uploads an upgrade kit to AmiNet (and the rest of the BUMs > while you`re at it.) with some sort of encryption / key needed to unpack it?? > I'd say policy from now on is anything in the EXAMPLES drawers of bums is open for public abuse, not sure about the encryption thing, any one else care to comment? > While I`m here (and may have the attention of someone at Acid) > Any chance of getting the compiler to run from CED (or similar) (btw > what`s the point of tokenised script files, > they seem to take up almost as much disc space > and can`t be read by anything else ?) > Has anyone got results back from ARexx commands (like ADPRO_RESULT??) > apart from writing them to ENV vars and > opening them > as DOS files (Kludge-tastic) > Oh yes, ASLRequesters within Functions seem to lock up big time (?). > ...and many, mant more Hmmm, 1, tokenising does speed up compiling, loading and saving, Blitz3 will DEFINATELY support other editors. 2. i have never had any problems with ARexx and adpro, what are you trying to do? As for ASLRequesters in functions I';ll look into it, WARNING TO LIBRARY WRITERS, PLEASE RETURN A4 AS YOU FOUND IT, OTHERWISE YOUR COMMANDS WILL NOT WORK INSIDE FUNCTIONS/PROCEDURES! From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 2 05:12:00 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA18516 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 05:11:30 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id OAA15586; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 14:05:55 +1200 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 14:05:55 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Simon's Fax number To: Jurgen Valks cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <15C98D2A01@ms1.hsbos.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Jurgen Valks wrote: > Hi all, > > Can somebody mail me Simon's fax number, he doesn't respond to my Email, so I > gonna fax a whole rol of toilet paper.... > > Cya > > Greetings from, > Promises promises, can you resend please... From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 2 13:52:49 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA22158 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 13:52:21 +0300 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 11:45:16 +0100 Message-Id: <94090211451620@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: BitPlanesBitmap X-VMS-To: SMTP%"hadmo%HADL60@email.meto.govt.uk" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Status: Status: RO Date sent: > > Has anyone managed to get 'BitPlanesBitmap' to work? > I think the syntax is: > > BitPlanesBitmap SrcBitmap,DestBitmap,Bitplane > > What sort of argument should 'Bitplane' be? Just a number like 0,1 or 2? > > Say I've got a 3 plane bitmap with some shapes on it, some of them in > colour 1. How do I copy this bitmap to a different 1 plane bitmap, so the > new bitmap has only the shapes in colour 1 on it? ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH. NOT ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT BITPLANESBITMAP! Oh well, here we go again....... This command lets you select the bitplanes from one bitmap and copy their POINTERS to another bitmap. How do you select the different planes? The Bitplane parameter should be a binary number with a bit set for each plane you want to grab from the source. Bit 0 means plane 0, bit 1 plane 1 etc. E.g. Say we have an 8 bitplane bitmap (256 colours). We want to display this on a 5 bitplane copperlist so that we don't have to waste memory reserving another bitmap. What we'd do is: BitplanesBitmap source#,dest#,%11111 This would grab the first 5 bitplanes from source and put them in dest. The dest# bitmap can then be used as a normal bitmap with one exception - you cannot do a copybitmap on it (I hope thats the only exception). You can also do special effects with the command, for example you can grab the top bitplane of a bitmap and just draw in that. This will cause colour changes in the picture etc. You can also do nice fading etc..... For more info, please mail acid! ;-) (Sorry Simon - you fault for not documenting the commands fully!). Steve Mc. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stephen McNamara Reflective Images| My map editor's NOT a bit buggy ;-) | |====================================+======================================| | A1200/170HD/6MB/Blitz2 | Current project : BlitzBombers AGA | | | [#################################:] | | >>> HANG-FIRE <<< | Current Project : RI Libs v??? | | | [###########################:::::::] | | | Current Project : RI Map Editor v1.2 | | sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk | [#################################:] | \____________________________________|______________________________________/ From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 9 05:26:29 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA02610 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 05:25:55 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id OAA12199; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 14:20:06 +1200 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 14:20:05 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: HD LOCKING UP To: "Ott M. Aaloe" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <376D2C764B@microlnk.ml.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO I have a similar problem with my A4000 sometimes and the IDE drive. It only seems to happen when runtimeerrors are enabled, and if you have another process running (a shell) you can dir the drive that is locked and everything comes right, can you try this for me? We definately need to sort this out, v1.9 now handles interupts completely OS friendly like in Blitz/QAmiga mode and may solve this problem completely, however due to a major fuck up on my part the disks I uploaded to the UK for distribution on Tuesday had to be cancelled as there were 3 large bugs found by the US distributor (thanks Dave) so BUM7 should be going out on Tuesday of next week for sure. Simon From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 9 09:08:21 1994 Received: from slick.clare.tased.edu.au (slick.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.5]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA12886 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 09:07:56 +0300 Received: from slick (localhost.clare.tased.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by slick.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA03100; Fri, 9 Sep 1994 16:11:45 +1000 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 16:11:44 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Reece Subject: Re: HD LOCKING UP To: Acid Software cc: Blitz Basic List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO On Fri, 9 Sep 1994, Acid Software wrote: > I have a similar problem with my A4000 sometimes and the IDE drive. It > only seems to happen when runtimeerrors are enabled, and if you have > another process running (a shell) you can dir the drive that is locked > and everything comes right, can you try this for me? > > We definately need to sort this out, v1.9 now handles interupts > completely OS friendly like in Blitz/QAmiga mode and may solve this > problem completely, however due to a major fuck up on my part the disks I > uploaded to the UK for distribution on Tuesday had to be cancelled as > there were 3 large bugs found by the US distributor (thanks Dave) so BUM7 > should be going out on Tuesday of next week for sure. Simon.. Does this also mean the end of dropping into QAMIGA mode to do disk access?? (I hope so!) Also, does the Debugger STILL kill CIA interrupts when it's turned on?? I found this whilst writing my library.. - Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Reece - Student & Network Assistant Claremont College - Tasmania, Australia. Email: preece@clare.tased.edu.au, ds041@cleveland.freenet.edu Finger: preece@ftp.clare.tased.edu.au, eme@ftp.clare.tased.edu.au WWW: http://www.clare.tased.edu.au/~preece/ Tasnet: CC_REECE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Sun Sep 11 05:16:29 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA04214 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 1994 05:16:17 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id OAA14816; Sun, 11 Sep 1994 14:10:32 +1200 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 14:10:30 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Display Library To: NIGEL HUGHES cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <19387.779104715@aber.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO I get a corrupt display on some resolutions after running gpfax and other utilities, I have tried to sort out which hardware register is being left in an unknown state but haven't sussed it yet. One Question, does your program boot from floppy on your mates 1200 or was launched from workbench, if from workbench, what screen res is he using so I can test this problem on my machine. From blitz-list-request Sun Sep 11 05:21:41 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA04416 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 1994 05:21:33 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id OAA14894; Sun, 11 Sep 1994 14:16:11 +1200 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 14:16:11 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: subscribe To: Don Finlay cc: Blitz2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Status: Status: RO Hi Don, nice to see another NewZealand Blitz User on the net, welcome! Still programming huh? From blitz-list-request Wed Sep 14 05:34:47 1994 Received: from holonet.net (marvin.holonet.net [198.207.169.9]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA06016 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 05:33:25 +0300 Received: from dagobah.com (uucp@localhost) by holonet.net with UUCP id TAA22496; Tue, 13 Sep 1994 19:08:02 -0700 Received: by dagobah.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0q89@dagobah.com>; Tue, 13 Sep 94 19:27:01 EST Date: Tue, 13 Sep 94 19:27:01 EST Message-Id: <9409140027.0q89@dagobah.com> From: metroid@dagobah.com (Cecil Meeks) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Bum subscription MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Does anyone know how I can get Bum6 and above? Where do I subscribe? PS Are there any graphic artists out there interested in some work? I need game graphics. CB metroid@dagobah.com From blitz-list-request Wed Sep 14 11:16:58 1994 Received: from kruuna.helsinki.fi (kruuna [128.214.4.112]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA27915 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 11:16:28 +0300 Received: (mmmakela@localhost) by kruuna.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) id LAA22823 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 11:16:24 +0300 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199409140816.LAA22823@kruuna.helsinki.fi> Subject: Administor is back (& married) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 11:16:22 +0300 (EET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 943 Status: RO Okee Dokee all ! First I want to apologize the list being down short time. It was caused by my diskaddress changing which wasn't informed to our postmaster. Anyway, now I'm back in school again and I'll be administering this list almost daily again. In case someone is interested: everything went fine; polttarit (the party before wedding, I don't remember what's it in english), the wedding & ofcourse the honeymoon. I still don't have my A3000 fixed. As I tould you sometime ago, it was broken by lighting (there was 12 hour thunder after a very long and warm period during summer), which also broke our cablebox. It seems that it's motherboard must be changed. But because it's hard to find A3000's motherboards, it maybe replaced with A4000's motherboard. Do any of you have any idea what kind of machine I would have after that ? Working ? AGA ? That's it for now from me, I'll have to go to my next lecture (AI languages). -Mikko From blitz-list-request Wed Sep 14 13:09:33 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA09110 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:08:33 +0300 From: xe_s457@kingston.ac.uk X400-Received: by /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:08:26 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:08:26 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:05:39 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=janet/ADMD=0/C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:05:34 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:07:33 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:06:21 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:06:17 +0300 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:06:17 +0300 X400-Originator: xe_s457@kingston.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;mercury.king:139790:940914100733] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Shape Editor Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: <"13983 Wed Sep 14 11:07:41 1994"@kingston.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Shape Editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hi Blitzers =) This is the guy that wrote the not so hot shape editor, CoolEd on Bum6, I have recently updated this and release it again as PD, this version has a workbench 2 style interface, and lots of other goodies and goes by the name of Blitz Shape Editor V1.1(17 Bit Disk 3224), But I am now working on a totally redesigned version which is fairly close to completion, but I would appreciate any ideas from fellow Blitzers that are in need of a decent Blitz Shape Editor/Convertor/Grabber/Drawer. If possible could you tell me... What System you have got. What Size the shapes need to be. How many colours they use. How you currently make Shapes. What functions you want. What you like about a program. What you hate about a program. Anything else that comes to mind. Thanks!!!!! P.S. Has any one got their BUM7 yet? From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 15 13:32:16 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA28844 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:31:38 +0300 X400-Received: by /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:31:24 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:31:24 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:30:47 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:31:57 +0300 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:31:57 +0300 X400-Originator: mca@glasgow-caledonian.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<653.9409151031@gcal.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: "M.Carter" Message-ID: <653.9409151031@gcal.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO from : mca@gcal.ac.uk (mark carter) to : blitz-list@helsinki.fi date : 12.9.94 re : invocation Is there a way of detecting whether a program was launched from the shell or the CLI? If not, maybe someone could write a command to determine which is the case that applies. By the way, the new commands on BUM6 , the Refective Images library, and the VS libraries are excellent!!! I really appreciate them From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 15 13:40:58 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA29726 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:40:27 +0300 X400-Received: by /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:40:20 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=FUMAIL/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:40:20 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:39:49 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:32:13 +0300 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:32:13 +0300 X400-Originator: mca@glasgow-caledonian.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<664.9409151032@gcal.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: "M.Carter" Message-ID: <664.9409151032@gcal.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO from : mca@gcal.ac.uk to : blitz-list date : 12.9.94 re : stack space for recursive procedures I use recursive procedures, and sometimes run out of stack space. I have tried upping the System and Data buffer in the Options menu, to no avail. Can you tell me if I can solve the problem (at least theoretically) by adjusting a buffer? If so - which one? From blitz-list-request Thu Sep 15 12:07:21 1994 Received: from samson.kih.no (samson.kih.no [158.36.15.10]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA19701 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 12:05:00 +0300 Received: from charon.kih.no by samson.kih.no with SMTP (PP) id <14702-3@samson.kih.no>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:04:22 +0000 Received: From KIHDATA/WORKQUEUE by charon.kih.no via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940915110449.384; 15 Sep 94 11:05:13 -0100 Message-ID: To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi From: TOR_EINAR_HANSEN Organization: Kongsberg College of Engineering Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:00:57 MET-1 Subject: bum? Priority: normal X-mailer: WinPMail v1.0 (R2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hi! And welcome to my first posting on this fine list! :) Think I'll start off with a little quesion: Something I'll keep hearing about is BUM. What is it? Blitz User Magazine? As far as I have gathered (from the manual) you also get some kind of blitz-upgrade with each number. So, how and where do I subscribe?? Tor Einar Hansen torein4@kihdata.kih.no From mmmakela@cc.helsinki.fi Fri Sep 16 11:08:47 1994 Received: from kruuna.helsinki.fi (kruuna [128.214.4.112]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA12563 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 15:41:12 +0300 Received: (mmmakela@localhost) by kruuna.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) id PAA14051 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 15:41:05 +0300 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199409151241.PAA14051@kruuna.helsinki.fi> Subject: SIMON !!! To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 15:41:01 +0300 (EET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 262 Status: RO I would be gratefull if it could be possible to me to receive BUMs 6 & 7 before my Amy will be fixed so that I could start working on some programs rigth then. WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO ????? Also, I could try to help getting Blitz Echo & this list joined. -Mikko From OTT@microlnk.ml.ee Fri Sep 16 14:45:22 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA14865 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 16:04:04 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qlGSS-00046zC; Thu, 15 Sep 94 16:02 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 15 Sep 94 16:06:48 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 15 Sep 94 16:06:42 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 16:06:40 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Stack problems Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: <6FD7823B19@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO > I use recursive procedures, and sometimes run out of stack space. I have tried > upping the System and Data buffer in the Options menu, to no avail. Can > you tell me if I can solve the problem (at least theoretically) > by adjusting a buffer? If so - which one? > I've had some stack problems too. Strange thing is that I don't use recursive procedures at all. I just make a str$(x) - variable to string and then print it out using RI's FNSPrint. Anyway, if I call this routine (and it's not procedure or statement - just gosub) about 100 times then it say out stack. Comments?? Whats wrong?? O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From OTT@microlnk.ml.ee Fri Sep 16 11:09:14 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA15828 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 16:14:48 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qlGcp-0003rsC; Thu, 15 Sep 94 16:13 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 15 Sep 94 16:17:32 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 15 Sep 94 16:17:25 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 16:17:21 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Uploading to aminet Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: <70053A3792@microlnk.ml.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hi all! I haven't uploaded stuff to aminet so one day I wanted to do so I failed. So can someone explain how is the best way to do it? When I tried to `put` my file it said access denied or something like that. I realley need to upload some stuff there so I need help. And how is this thing working anyway? Is there some moderator who checks the stuff is it worth it or not...or can one upload any crap he/she wants? Thanks! Bye! O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From bharvey@d.umn.edu Fri Sep 16 14:56:34 1994 Received: from ub.d.umn.edu (ub.d.umn.edu [131.212.33.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA09147 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 21:41:02 +0300 Received: (from bharvey@localhost) by ub.d.umn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA28758; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:39:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:38:58 -0500 (CDT) From: brenda harvey Subject: C2P WANTED!!!! To: blitz-list@Helsinki.Fi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Hello Everyone, I've been thinking about this alot lately in wait for BUM7 and the new 3D library. I don't think its gonna do what I want. What I really want, and I'm sure others do as well, is a blitz mode Chunky to Planar converter. I don't know all that much about assembly(a little here and there) so I wouldn't know how I would implement the numerous src code examples that are on Aminet. First youd have to have a buffer object to hold the chunky and a command that would convert it to the specified bitmap. Oh the things that would be possible! The buffer would have to be a 1D array for speed. Anyone want to attempt this? bharvey@ub.d.umn.edu PS If your interested but don't have access to Aminet I could email them to you. From acid@iconz.co.nz Fri Sep 16 10:45:47 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA13854 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 23:20:01 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id IAA17530; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 08:14:22 +1200 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 08:14:21 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: your mail To: "M.Carter" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <653.9409151031@gcal.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO BUM7 veatures a new command to detect whether a program was launched from cli or workbench, will be being mailed out in the next few days to everyone. From alcove!grn@sleeper.apana.org.au Fri Sep 16 11:49:28 1994 Received: from sleeper.apana.org.au (sleeper.apana.org.au [202.12.88.41]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA02097 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 07:34:43 +0300 Received: from alcove by sleeper.apana.org.au with uucp (sysV88 Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qlUzn-0005L2C; Fri, 16 Sep 94 14:33 SYD Received: by alcove.apana.org.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0ce8@alcove.apana.org.au>; Fri, 16 Sep 94 13:09:23 +1000 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 94 13:09:23 +1000 Message-Id: <9409162309.0ce8@alcove.apana.org.au> In-Reply-To: <1f6361b1.bfcdf-blitz-basic2@quasar.xs4all.nl> (from blitz-basic2@quasar.xs4all.nl (Eric Krieger)) (at Thu, 8 Sep 94 23:39:52 +0200) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 2.253) From: grn@alcove.apana.org.au (Geoffrey Newman) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: BB2 GUIDE V1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO In message <1f6361b1.bfcdf-blitz-basic2@quasar.xs4all.nl> you wrote: > cekift.swan.ac.uk > > which is a valid address. > > Secondly, upto now, I haven't been able to log on this address yet (I > seem to remember that the server could be down, or that there're > already two users logged on)... anyone? Ditto! I can't even ping this address. > > Therefore is it possible to put the BB2 guide on Aminet as well? > Has this been done? > Thanks, > > Eric Krieger > -- Geoffrey Newman grn@alcove.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 16 11:45:37 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA24062 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 11:45:08 +0300 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually mailsun.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 Sep 1994 09:22:13 +0100 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Display Coruption... Again... Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 09:22:11 +0100 Message-ID: <22090.779703731@aber.ac.uk> From: NIGEL HUGHES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hi All, I don't know if you remember but I mailked last week asking my game display was corrupt on a friends 1200, well I have worked out WHAT is doing it but not WHY (Acid?), I was opening the display with the type $12456, if I set fetch mode to zero, ala $10456 it is fine... Oh well, Nigel From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 16 15:33:36 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA17808 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 15:32:25 +0300 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 13:27:42 +0100 Message-Id: <94091613274216@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: OTT@microlnk.ml.ee, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Stack problems X-VMS-To: SMTP%"OTT@microlnk.ml.ee" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO > I've had some stack problems too. Strange thing is that I don't use > recursive procedures at all. I just make a str$(x) - variable to > string and then print it out using RI's FNSPrint. Anyway, if > I call this routine (and it's not procedure or statement - just > gosub) about 100 times then it say out stack. Comments?? Whats wrong?? Hi, the FNSPrint command needs to store a bit of data on the stack. Eaxctly, it stores all the registers (I think) onto the stack whilst the command is running (15*4 bytes = 60 bytes of stack space). Additionally it also has to store extra registers *temporarily* if you're using underline. The data is restored from the stack quite happily - if it wasn't blitz would go into runtime error mode with a stack frame error (or something like that). I can have a try and see if there are any stack related problems with the FNS commands. I'm sure though that the problem must lie elsewhere, nevertheless I'll still have a look through my code to see if it ever aborts without restoring the stack. Steve Mc. From blitz-list-request Fri Sep 16 18:44:40 1994 Received: from gboro.rowan.edu (gboro.rowan.edu [150.250.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA03969 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 18:44:21 +0300 Received: by gboro.rowan.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13263; Fri, 16 Sep 94 11:44:14 -0400 Received: from MARS/MAILQUEUE by mars.rowan.edu (Mercury 1.11); Fri, 16 Sep 94 11:44:13 +0500 Received: from MAILQUEUE by MARS (Mercury 1.11); Fri, 16 Sep 94 11:44:02 +0500 From: "MACIEJ GORNY" Organization: Rowan College of NJ To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 11:43:55 EST Subject: DIM LISTs, registration Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-Id: <1A4049A757B@mars.rowan.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hi All! Just a quckie question for someone who would know. When I use DIM LIST does is allocate ALL of the memory for all the elements in a list upon declaration, or does it do it dynamically? Also, when are the hardware sprites be made available in the Amiga mode? And also for someone at Acid Software. I was stupid enough not to register Blitz2 right away when I bought it few months ago, and now I seem to be unable as of to whereabouts of my registration form. Is there ANY way, I can register? I bought my copy from Safe Harbour (i think that's the name) so maybe they have a transaction on files. Or should I just keep looking? Thanks! Maciej gorn4907@mars.rowan.edu From blitz-list-request Sat Sep 17 14:24:22 1994 Received: from ibmPCUG.CO.UK (mmdf@Alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK [192.68.174.71]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA18709 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 1994 14:23:49 +0300 Received: from Dorothy.ibmPCUG.CO.UK by alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK id ac13920; 17 Sep 94 12:22 BST Received: from centron by Dorothy.ibmPCUG.CO.UK id aa02060; 17 Sep 94 12:21 BST Received: by centron.com (0.99 pl3) id AA00942; 17 Sep 94 12:04:52 +0000 From: James Savage Date: 16 Sep 94 18:45:27 +0000 Subject: Uploading to aminet Message-ID: Organization: Centronics BBS To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hullo OTT... Omme> I haven't uploaded stuff to aminet so one day I wanted to do so Omme> I failed. So can someone explain how is the best way to do it? Yup... Omme> When I tried to `put` my file it said access denied or something like Omme> that. I realley need to upload some stuff there so I need help. Try using ftp.luth.se or wuarchive.wustl.edu as they allow Puts. Be sure to get READ.ME.BEFORE.UPLOAD first. Omme> And how is this thing working anyway? Is there some moderator Omme> who checks the stuff is it worth it or not...or can one upload any Omme> crap he/she wants? Thanks! Bye! Yes, if its not got a readme then it gets deleted. Quality is not an issue. James *:) bryce@gothic.demon.co.uk Co-sysop Centronics BBS Amiga CD32 Developer and ////\Oo/\\\\ net.goth ... . >> Gothic Tag v1.04 << +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own | | ===> Gated @ Centronics BBS [centron.com] +44-1473-273246] <=== | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Sat Sep 17 16:08:20 1994 Received: from CUPPA.CURTIN.EDU.AU (cuppa.curtin.edu.au [134.7.70.20]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA22950 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 1994 16:07:22 +0300 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by cc.curtin.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #7809) id <01HH8E23T6OG90MTX3@cc.curtin.edu.au>; Sat, 17 Sep 1994 21:07:12 +0800 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 21:07:11 +0800 From: Richard Wiffen Subject: Blitz project report? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HH8E23USK290MTX3@cc.curtin.edu.au> X-VMS-To: BLITZ MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO What's happening with the Blitz Project Reports these days? I haven't seen one for a while. Is anyone keeping them up to date? If I want to add my project, who do I email? I'm working on a spiffy tank warfare game which is coming along quite nicely. :) (based on the C64 game "Tank War Construction Set"). - Richard _--_|\ AMIGA /// Richard Wiffen (swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au) -- Perth, W.A. / \ OK! /// --------------------------------------------------------- ==>\_.--._/ \\\/// "No-one's slick as Gaston, no-one's quick as Gaston, v \XX/ no-one's neck's as incredibly thick as Gaston's." From blitz-list-request Sat Sep 17 16:56:12 1994 Received: from karhu.Helsinki.FI (mmmakela@karhu [128.214.4.13]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA24657 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 1994 16:56:06 +0300 Received: (mmmakela@localhost) by karhu.Helsinki.FI (8.6.9/8.6.5) id QAA11683 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sat, 17 Sep 1994 16:56:06 +0300 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199409171356.QAA11683@karhu.Helsinki.FI> Subject: Uploading to aminet (fwd) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 16:56:05 +0300 (EETDST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 737 Status: RO Forwarded message: > Hi all! > > I haven't uploaded stuff to aminet so one day I wanted to do so > I failed. So can someone explain how is the best way to do it? > > When I tried to `put` my file it said access denied or something like > that. I realley need to upload some stuff there so I need help. > > And how is this thing working anyway? Is there some moderator > who checks the stuff is it worth it or not...or can one upload any > crap he/she wants? Thanks! Bye! > > O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) > > Check the README file from aminet. Uploads are only possible to "incoming" directory (if I remember rigth). -Mikko ps. sorry for the duplicate messages, there was something wrong with our mailingsystem. From blitz-list-request Sun Sep 18 02:47:20 1994 Received: from gboro.rowan.edu (gboro.rowan.edu [150.250.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA16478 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 1994 02:45:56 +0300 Received: by gboro.rowan.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA21824; Sat, 17 Sep 94 19:45:50 -0400 Received: from MARS/MAILQUEUE by mars.rowan.edu (Mercury 1.11); Sat, 17 Sep 94 19:45:51 +0500 Received: from MAILQUEUE by MARS (Mercury 1.11); Sat, 17 Sep 94 19:45:37 +0500 From: "MACIEJ GORNY" Organization: Rowan College of NJ To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 19:45:36 EST Subject: WTitle mess Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-Id: <1C40BD92B91@mars.rowan.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO I use ASLFileRequest to get a file, then I assign whatever it returns (a file with its path) to a string variable and try to use WTitle to change window's title to display that file: WTitle filepath$,"my screens name" The screen's and window's titles get somehow screwd up after the next window event it would seem. It contains some random strings, from file requester, or etc... It looks like there is a some string memory conflict, or something like that. Does anybody know how WTitle works? (Acid Software?) And under what conditions it should be used? ANY help is greatly appreciated! maciej, gorn4907@mars.rowan.edu From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 01:42:38 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (acid@iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA04054 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 01:40:53 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA05127; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:35:10 +1200 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:35:09 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: $12456.. To: NIGEL HUGHES cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <22090.779703731@aber.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO You say $12456? 6 bitplanes, are you ehb or 64 colours? can you email the actual initdisplay parameters (help me out here a little!) you are using... EWSImon From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 01:47:52 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (acid@iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA04182 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 01:46:41 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA05236; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:40:46 +1200 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:40:45 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Stack problems To: "Ott M. Aaloe" cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <6FD7823B19@microlnk.ml.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Runtime errors enabled with libraries that fuck a4 will crash the stack quite quickly, this is the same problem as UnlkA4 with machine code in statements/functions. This has nothing to do with the recursion overflowing the stack, we will add a stack command for increasing the default stack size. We override the DOS stack limit as there were inconsistincies found between 1.3 and 2.0. From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 01:49:02 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (acid@iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA04202 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 01:47:54 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA05260; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:42:20 +1200 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:42:19 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: Chunky2Planar WANTED!!!! To: brenda harvey cc: blitz-list@Helsinki.Fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Yeh, OK, I think this is a good idea, I'll write one today and see if anyone can make it faster! From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 01:53:10 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (acid@iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA04326 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 01:52:05 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id KAA05385; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:46:29 +1200 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:46:28 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: Re: DIM LISTs, registration To: MACIEJ GORNY cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <1A4049A757B@mars.rowan.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO On Fri, 16 Sep 1994, MACIEJ GORNY wrote: > Hi All! > Just a quckie question for someone who would know. When I use DIM > LIST does is allocate ALL of the memory for all the elements in a > list upon declaration, or does it do it dynamically? > no it allocates then and there, we always take the fastest route... > Also, when are the hardware sprites be made available in the Amiga > mode? > Commodore has never supported sprites in Amiga mode in any decent way, with the advent of AGA you can not display more than 2 sprites in a standard viewport, and of course dblpal etc. has meant even less chance of sprite support. I agree with them, if you are writing OS friendly stuff that you want to run on the next generation of Amigas forget about sprites except for the pointer > And also for someone at Acid Software. I was stupid enough not > to register Blitz2 right away when I bought it few months ago, and > now I seem to be unable as of to whereabouts of my registration form. > Is there ANY way, I can register? I bought my copy from Safe Harbour > (i think that's the name) so maybe they have a transaction on files. > Or should I just keep looking? > Thanks! > Maciej > gorn4907@mars.rowan.edu > > Call Dave Maziarka on (608)257 9057, he will sort you out (bbs online after hours) From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 13:55:28 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA20485 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 13:54:37 +0300 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 11:49:33 +0100 Message-Id: <94091911493369@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: GORN4907@mars.rowan.edu, blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: WTitle mess X-VMS-To: SMTP%"GORN4907@mars.rowan.edu" X-VMS-Cc: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO > I use ASLFileRequest to get a file, then I assign whatever it returns > (a file with its path) to a string variable and try to use WTitle to > change window's title to display that file: > WTitle filepath$,"my screens name" > The screen's and window's titles get somehow screwd up after the next > window event it would seem. It contains some random strings, from > file requester, or etc... I got window title cockups when using previous versions of the window library in Blitz. My problems though have cleared up since I started using the newer versions. What would cause mine to fuckup is something like: WTitle "Help me please","Steve's little prog..." Execute_ "Time",0,0 This would cause the window title to change to "Time" - very dodgy indeed. Wtitle most probably just stores the string you give and then calls the OS command SetWindowTitle. You could try doing this yourself: mytitle$="Myname" SetWindowTitle_ peek.l(addr window(0)),mytitle$,0 (The 0 on the end means don't change the screen title This stops the title being constantly redraw). Do you subscribe to Blitzs bum magazine? If you do then you should get a version of the library off them that works properly. Hope this helps (in some little way ;-)), Steve Mc. From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 13:25:35 1994 Received: from mhs.swan.ac.uk (mhs.swan.ac.uk [137.44.1.33]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17198 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 13:22:56 +0300 Received: from ce1.swan.ac.uk by mhs.swan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <03632-0@mhs.swan.ac.uk>; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 11:22:29 +0100 Received: from CE1/MERCURY by CE1.SWAN.AC.UK (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 19 Sep 94 11:29:30 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURY by CE1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 19 Sep 94 11:29:26 GMT0BST From: Martin Kift To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 11:29:19 GMT0BST Subject: bum7 probs Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows v1.11 Message-ID: <333CFF40966@CE1.SWAN.AC.UK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hi all, Has anybody got the bum7 DecodePalette command to work? I tried it yesterday and got a major crash, and had to go back to the RI command ILBMPalette (or something like that). The other Decode functions work fine tho... Also, has anyone noticed that memory isn't being freed properly? Although the new displaylibs seem hugely more stable, I'm now in a sitation that when my game exits (which is does cleanly) back to WB, I notice my memory is greatly reduced. This seems to mainly affect chipmem. Also, if I jump back to the editor, I notice that the little message box with the Panic button is still showing. I'm pretty sure my game doesn't allocate any mem without freeing it (and I use the new AllocMem instruction which is supposed to automatically free the memory upon exit anyway, although I've tried explictically freeing all mem chunks allocated, and I've tried to allocmem_/freemem_ combo too). I didn't have this problem before using bum7. Martin Kift - Procede Software Tel: +44 (0)792 205678 ext 4096 Fax: +44 (0)792 295701 From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 15:11:51 1994 Received: from anubis.kbfi.ee (anubis.kbfi.ee [192.121.251.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA29230 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:10:28 +0300 Received: from microlnk.ml.ee by anubis.kbfi.ee with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qmhVy-0002wRC; Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:08 EETDST Received: from ML4/SpoolDir by microlnk.ml.ee (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:13:11 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by ML4 (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:13:02 +0200 From: "Ott M. Aaloe" Organization: MicroLink Ltd. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:12:58 +0300 (EETDST) Subject: Re: bum7 probs Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO > Hi all, > > Has anybody got the bum7 DecodePalette command to work? I tried it Haven't got it..yet :( O.T.T. (ott@microlnk.ml.ee) From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 16:12:56 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA05840 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 16:12:11 +0300 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 14:11:03 +0100 Message-Id: <94091914110353@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3147@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (Big Will Riker) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: a problem... X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hi there, just a quick one... (make that 2) Does anybody know how to find the device name for a Volume? Say I have a string "System3.0:" I want to find out which device it is (e.g. "DH0:") Does anybody also know how to find that name of the task e.g. FindTask_(0) - and get the name of it? Steve. AKA Big Will Riker - Leading Edge Software (formerly Reflective Images) From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 16:14:40 1994 Received: from CUPPA.CURTIN.EDU.AU (cuppa.curtin.edu.au [134.7.70.20]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA06030 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 16:14:09 +0300 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by cc.curtin.edu.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #7809) id <01HHB6XI436O90N8FH@cc.curtin.edu.au>; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 21:13:51 +0800 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 21:13:50 +0800 From: Richard Wiffen Subject: CludgeTed cludge! :) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <01HHB6XI55RM90N8FH@cc.curtin.edu.au> X-VMS-To: BLITZ MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO OK - I just got BUM 7 and I was pretty annoyed to find out that cludgeted didn't work (I *hate* the default ted font), so I just knocked together this little proggy which fixes that problem (hopefully). It's <3k long after encoding, so people shouldn't have a problem with the size (just be glad it ain't 2 Meg! :) Hey Simon, when is ted going to use fonts like any normal program??? 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From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 18:31:42 1994 Received: from sisvax (sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk [148.197.159.14]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA18387 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 18:31:21 +0300 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 16:30:50 +0100 Message-Id: <94091916305060@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk> From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: BUG! X-VMS-To: BLITZLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO From: SMTP%"M.H.Kift@swansea.ac.uk" 19-SEP-1994 16:30:31.47 To: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) CC: Subj: Re: bum7 probs > > BlitzBombers does exactly the same as this sometimes. I think it only happens > > though when runtimes are off. Pain in the arse the bug is, especially as it > > means I can only run the game a couple of times without having to reset to get > > the memory back. > > > > I've noticed though that when you click the panic button the game is removed > > (i.e. Blitz ][ Proc disappears from the tasklist). Memory is not given back > > when this happens. What a pain................. > > > > Whats that saying? Misery loves company? > SNAP!!!! > Why not post this to the blitz-list, maybe if enough people post > about the same bug, we'll get something done about it. ACID! Bug here needs fixing! Steve Mc. From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 17:38:05 1994 Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA13584 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 17:34:45 +0300 Received: from Redmires.shef.ac.uk by pp2.shef.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:34:11 +0100 Received: from REDMIRES/MAILQUEUE by Redmires.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:34:12 +0000 Received: from MAILQUEUE by REDMIRES (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:34:01 +0000 From: "A.B.Laughton" To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:33:54 Subject: unsubscribe Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.21 Message-ID: <1B4F494444E@Redmires.shef.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO unsubscribe Thanks for the help but my mailbox cannot cope! From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 22:23:13 1994 Received: from gboro.rowan.edu (gboro.rowan.edu [150.250.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA02836 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 22:22:40 +0300 Received: by gboro.rowan.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05065; Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:22:20 -0400 Received: from MARS/MAILQUEUE by mars.rowan.edu (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:22:27 +0500 Received: from MAILQUEUE by MARS (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:22:03 +0500 From: "MACIEJ GORNY" Organization: Rowan College of NJ To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:21:54 EST Subject: Re: DIM LISTs, registration Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-Id: <1EFA82577C1@mars.rowan.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO >What I would try is every window event that happens I >would shoot to the subroutine that changes it(or whatever it does!). >That should keep it there. > Thanks for the info, brenda, that's exactly what I did (use WTitle after every window event), but it flickers miserably with every event (the title bars), that's why I was asking. Thanks again and good luck with your games. maciej gorn4907@mars.rowan.edu From blitz-list-request Mon Sep 19 22:54:40 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA04270 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 22:54:13 +0300 Received: from gboro.rowan.edu by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Mon, 19 Sep 1994 22:53:01 +0300 Received: by gboro.rowan.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA06783; Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:51:09 -0400 Received: from MARS/MAILQUEUE by mars.rowan.edu (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:51:08 +0500 Received: from MAILQUEUE by MARS (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 19 Sep 94 15:50:46 +0500 From: MACIEJ GORNY Organization: Rowan College of NJ To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:50:40 EST Subject: Re: WTitle mess Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1) Message-Id: <1F022AA7D9E@mars.rowan.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO > Date sent: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 11:49:33 +0100 > From: sis3149@sisvax.sis.port.ac.uk (HANG-FIRE) > To: GORN4907@mars.rowan.edu, blitz-list@helsinki.fi > Subject: Re: WTitle mess > > I use ASLFileRequest to get a file, then I assign whatever it returns > > (a file with its path) to a string variable and try to use WTitle to > > change window's title to display that file: > > WTitle filepath$,"my screens name" > > The screen's and window's titles get somehow screwd up after the next > > window event it would seem. It contains some random strings, from > > file requester, or etc... > > I got window title cockups when using previous versions of the window library > in Blitz. My problems though have cleared up since I started using the > newer versions. > > What would cause mine to fuckup is something like: > > WTitle "Help me please","Steve's little prog..." > Execute_ "Time",0,0 > > This would cause the window title to change to "Time" - very dodgy indeed. > > Wtitle most probably just stores the string you give and then calls the OS > command SetWindowTitle. You could try doing this yourself: > > mytitle$="Myname" > SetWindowTitle_ peek.l(addr window(0)),mytitle$,0 > > (The 0 on the end means don't change the screen title > This stops the title being constantly redraw). > > Do you subscribe to Blitzs bum magazine? If you do then you should get a version > of the library off them that works properly. > > > Hope this helps (in some little way ;-)), > Steve Mc. That is EXACTLY the kind of simptoms that I got. After using Asl requester wtitle would change the window's title to either requester's title, or some other random string that had nothing to do with that particular file request. Thanks for help Steve, I hope it works!.. maciej From blitz-list-request Tue Sep 20 08:36:25 1994 Received: from iconz.co.nz (acid@iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA27067 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 08:35:46 +0300 Received: (acid@localhost) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.6.Beta6/8.6.6.Beta6) id RAA16747; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 17:30:09 +1200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 17:30:08 +1200 (NZST) From: Acid Software Subject: BUM7 ERRATA To: blitz list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO BUM7 bug report, 20th September, 1994 (first of many!) ASMEND is actually called ASMEXIT!!! ASMEND is another frigging internal command, sorry for the typo in the readme docs. WBStartUp no longer changes the current directory to that from which the icon was clicked... shit, why did Aaron stuff this up... DecodePalette command not working? Hmmm, I tested it, I will test it again...