I hope that you find these two pictures of use and I hope it's OK sending them in this manner. If you like the pictures, but need them to be sent on disk, please let me know, I will be glad to do so. This is my first submission to AF (or any computer mag for that matter). Neither picture will be submitted to any other magazine. The Rocket picture was done using Real3D classic, Ppaint & Rombos Vidi Amiga 12rt. (The photos on the wall were taken with a Canon A1 and digitised from slides) The machine used was a standard A1200 with a 4mb fast ram upgrade. It took over 24 hours to render. The Lola picture was done using Real 3D Classic (turbo) on an A1200 with a 50mhz 68030 & 10mb fast ram. It took about 30 minutes to render. In case you're wondering, the Lola picture came about during a conversation on the net. A girl named Lola was describing her cyber-toilet so I thought I'd make it a reality and construct it. John C. Earwicker Connected via Wirenet - the UK's first Amiga only internet provider