From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 1 09:54:48 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18948 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA07279 for amos-out; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 08:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07276 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 08:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10482 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 08:06:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from xs4all.nl (collin@drt01-07.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.8]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id OAA18019 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 14:06:53 +0100 (MET) From: Branko Collin To: Amos Discussion List Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 13:57:40 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: game-makers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Does anyone know where I can find game development kits? I am looking for kits both for Amos and for other programming languages. There is a kit called The Games Master System on Aminet (dev/misc/gms_dev.lha). It supports both E and C. Does anyone know if it is any good? I could download it of course, but unfortunately my HD is filled to the brim, even after a few 'cleaning' sessions. So I would prefer information (possibly via the WWW, but other methods are fine too). Many thanks in advance. ----- Branko Collin http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin collin@xs4all.nl http://www.kun.nl/undans/members/branko.htm "Erm... Erm... should I say something interesting now?" - Branko Collin - From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 2 00:35:18 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01825 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA22003 for amos-out; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22000 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hitchhike.cybertours.com (ns2.cyberTours.com [205.139.4.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA25680 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from cybertours.com (kenn4-asy156.cyberTours.com [205.139.4.156]) by hitchhike.cybertours.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id XAA18195 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:32:26 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Miller Foulkrod Reply-To: Robert Miller Foulkrod To: amos-list Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 23:31:32 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: HelpWithSoundFrequencies, please. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Beloved Brother and Sister Co-Creators: Can you help me create sine-wave sounds of specific frequencies? I am used to doing this with the SOUND statement in AmigaBASIC etc. How can I generate 256 cycles per second in AMOS? Or 33 or 286 etc.? I have AMOS Pro and will be running it on an accelerated A1200. Thank you in advance for sharing your wisdom and experience. Bless You with Love, Your Brother Co-Creator, Robert 496 Loop Road, Wells, Maine, USA 04090 Voice:207-646-7736 http://WWW.cybertours.com/~robert/cocreate.html V&Fax:207-646-7950 .._ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 2 14:16:12 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06960 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 14:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05519 for amos-out; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05516 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA13532 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.168.244] by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.58 #10) id 0w1F6U-0000cD-00; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:31:18 +0000 Received: from PMN1/MERCURYQ by pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 2 Mar 97 17:31:26 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURYQ by PMN1 (Mercury 1.21); 2 Mar 97 17:31:14 GMT0BST From: "--==MURRAY==--" Organization: Maths, The University of Nottingham To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:31:04 GMT0BST Subject: New Web Page X-Confirm-Reading-To: "--==MURRAY==--" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: First message for me! Just a quick message to tell the world about my Web Page which now has an area reserved for AMOS on it. You can find a few things to download but it's only just got going and i've loads still to put on it. Any suggestions are welcome. My Page: http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm/ The AMOS bit of it: http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm/amiga.html Go on - have a look. And I want to see 100 signings of my guestbook (on the main page) by tommorow! -Thanks for reading Murray +-----------------------------------+ +--------------------------+ |J Alastair Murray G | |N Best Bands Ever G | |K --------------- G | | --------------- | |N pmymagm@pmn1.maths.nott.ac.uk G | | Smashing Pumpkins | | ============================= | | The Cure | |B Web site at... G | | Nine Inch Nails | |J http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm G | | Sisters of Mercy | | | | The Wildhearts | |L SIGN MY GUESTBOOK PLEASE! G | | The Beatles | +-----------------------------------+ +--------------------------+ Instructions as to signing my guestbook. For people who don't know how. (i.e. for Sandy) 1.Load Windows 2.Open Netscape (in Internet Tools or something similar) 3.Type in the above address in to it (the one starting with http:\\) 4.Look at my Web Page 5.Say "WOW! That Murray's an interesting bloke!" 6.Select Sign Guestbook and wait 7.Sign the guestbook 8.Say "WOW! My name's on the internet!" ------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 2 23:53:58 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10778 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:53:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA20354 for amos-out; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA20351 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from catamaran.netwave.net (root@catamaran.netwave.net [207.112.132.11]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03594 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pppc85.netwave.net (pppc85.netwave.net [207.112.132.135]) by catamaran.netwave.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA15460 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 21:32:17 -0600 Date: 02 Mar 97 17:05:38 +0500 From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" Subject: Re: Systemtime To: * AMOS Mailing List * In-Reply-To: <328.7000T1208T2885@mbox2.swipnet.se> Message-ID: <2180.7000T1025T1914@maui.netwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.4 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: RO X-Status: Reine Johansson digitized on 03-Mar-97 00:08:57: RJ> How do I get the systemtime in AMOS? Example code _please_ In AmosPRO you can call these procedures: '******************************************************* '* * '* AMOS Professional Procedure Library * '* * '* Procedure: Date and Time * '* * '* Author: Francois Lionet * '* * '******************************************************* ' _DATE$ : Print Param$ _TIME$ : Print Param$ ' Procedure _DATE$ ' ' Call DOS DateStamp function T$=Space$(12) Dreg(1)=Varptr(T$) RIEN=Doscall(-192) NJ=Leek(Varptr(T$)) ' ' Find this year's first day A=1978 : JOUR=7 Do BIS=0 : If(A and 3)=0 : BIS=1 : End If Exit If NJ-365-BIS<0 Add JOUR,1+BIS : If JOUR>7 : Add JOUR,-7 : End If Add NJ,-365-BIS Inc A Loop ' ' Find month M=1 Do Read N Exit If NJ-N<0 Add NJ,-N : Inc M Loop Inc NJ ' ' Fabrique la chaine J$=Mid$(Str$(NJ),2) : If Len(J$)<2 : J$="0"+J$ : End If M$=Mid$(Str$(M),2) : If Len(M$)<2 : M$="0"+M$ : End If A$=Mid$(Str$(A),2) DATE$=J$+"-"+M$+"-"+A$ ' ' Length of each month Data 31,28+BIS,31,30,31,30,31,31,30,31,30,31 ' End Proc[DATE$] Procedure _TIME$ ' ' Call DOS function T$=Space$(12) Dreg(1)=Varptr(T$) RIEN=Doscall(-192) MN=Leek(Varptr(T$)+4) SEC=Leek(Varptr(T$)+8) ' ' Minutes calculation H=MN/60 : H$=Mid$(Str$(H),2) : If Len(H$)<2 : H$="0"+H$ : End If M=MN mod 60 : M$=Mid$(Str$(M),2) : If Len(M$)<2 : M$="0"+M$ : End If ' ' Seconds calculation S=SEC/50 : S$=Mid$(Str$(S),2) : If Len(S$)<2 : S$="0"+S$ : End If ' ' Final string TIME$=H$+":"+M$+":"+S$ ' End Proc[TIME$] Hope this helps. - Rand -- rand@maui.netwave.net //// Rand R. Fredricksen //// Wheeling IL USA \\\\//// \\\/// From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 2 09:15:35 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08364 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 09:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01987 for amos-out; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 08:49:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01984 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 08:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (io.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.27]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05331 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 08:48:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (toelemworldonline.nl@asd1-p32.worldonline.nl [154.9.129.32]) by worldonline.nl (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA13710 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 14:48:45 +0100 (MET) From: Marcel Toele To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 14:49:12 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Extensions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Does anybody know any useful extensions for AmosPro2.0 ??? I currently have only installed the locale extension and the gui extension, besides the orginal extensions that came with the package... tnx in advance for any reactions...! GrTz to all AmosLovers !!! Marcel Toele From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 2 13:19:47 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01164 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 13:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05495 for amos-out; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05492 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from dub-img-2.compuserve.com (dub-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.206.132]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26412 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by dub-img-2.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id MAA27471; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:23:30 -0500 Date: 02 Mar 97 12:21:49 EST From: Christopher Kossa <103344.664@CompuServe.COM> To: AMOS List Subject: Re: Extensions Message-ID: <970302172148_103344.664_JHL47-1@CompuServe.COM> Status: RO X-Status: Dear Marcel Toele, There are several good extensions available for AMOSPro 2.0 There's AMCAF, LDos, LSerial, Turbo+. I believe there are all on Aminet. LSerial has a lot of commands for modem stuff, and AMCAF has so many useful commands for graphics, sound and strings. Chris From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 2 15:32:48 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29680 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07246 for amos-out; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 14:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07243 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 14:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox.swip.net (mailbox.swip.net [193.12.122.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24328 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 14:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from dialup117-2-15.swipnet.se (dialup117-2-15.swipnet.se [130.244.117.35]) by mailbox.swip.net (8.7.6swip/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06957 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 20:16:05 +0100 (MET) Date: 02 Mar 97 20:08:57 +0100 From: Reine Johansson Subject: Systemtime To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <328.7000T1208T2885@mbox2.swipnet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: THOR 2.4 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Status: RO X-Status: How do I get the systemtime in AMOS? Example code _please_ --- __ __ __/// Reine Johansson <> Member of Team AMIGA __/// \XX/ reine.johansson@mbox2.swipnet.se \XX/ @BRAiN on #AmigaSWE <> http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-10354/ --- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 2 16:16:32 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00580 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 16:16:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA07390 for amos-out; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07387 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28715 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from xs4all.nl (collin@drt01-02.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.3]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id VAA18476 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 21:16:39 +0100 (MET) From: Branko Collin To: Amos Discussion List Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 21:16:14 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Extensions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Op 02-maa-97 schreef Marcel Toele: >Does anybody know any useful extensions for AmosPro2.0 ??? There's a list of extensions in the FAQ, which can be found on Aminet in the dev/amos drawer. As for recommending extensions, that all depends on how you define useful. ----- Branko Collin http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin collin@xs4all.nl http://www.kun.nl/undans/members/branko.htm "Erm... Erm... should I say something interesting now?" - Branko Collin - From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 2 18:55:23 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15077 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12206 for amos-out; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12197 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from kruuna.Helsinki.FI (palaste@kruuna.helsinki.fi [128.214.180.131]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05812 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from palaste@localhost) by kruuna.Helsinki.FI (8.8.5/8.8.0) id AAA00767; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:04:32 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:04:31 +0200 (EET) From: Joona I Palaste X-Sender: palaste@kruuna.Helsinki.FI To: Marcel Toele cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Extensions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Marcel Toele wrote: > Does anybody know any useful extensions for AmosPro2.0 ??? > > I currently have only installed the locale extension and the gui extension, > besides the orginal extensions that came with the package... > > tnx in advance for any reactions...! > > GrTz to all AmosLovers !!! > > Marcel Toele Hey! If someone has got the extensions Marcel was talking about, I'd like a copy of them! And if there's an AGA extension too, I'd like that, too! /----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Joona Palaste | | | | | palaste@cc.helsinki.fi | | | | | G++ FR FW+ M- #20 D+ ADA N+++ W++ B OP+ |------- -----------------| | |------- -----------------| | | | | | | Finland rules! => | | | | \----------------------------------------------------------------------/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 2 18:31:50 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13391 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:31:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12504 for amos-out; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12501 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from kruuna.Helsinki.FI (palaste@kruuna.helsinki.fi [128.214.180.131]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03728 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from palaste@localhost) by kruuna.Helsinki.FI (8.8.5/8.8.0) id AAA02060; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:14:52 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:14:51 +0200 (EET) From: Joona I Palaste X-Sender: palaste@kruuna.Helsinki.FI To: Reine Johansson cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Systemtime In-Reply-To: <328.7000T1208T2885@mbox2.swipnet.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On 2 Mar 1997, Reine Johansson wrote: > How do I get the systemtime in AMOS? Example code _please_ It only works in AMOS Pro. Here's how: Exec "date >t:date.tmp" Open In 1,"t:date.tmp" ROW$=Input$(1,Lof(1)) Close 1 Print ROW$ And there you have it! Isn't this a sneaky way to do it? =) /----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Joona Palaste | | | | | palaste@cc.helsinki.fi | | | | | G++ FR FW+ M- #20 D+ ADA N+++ W++ B OP+ |------- -----------------| | |------- -----------------| | | | | | | Finland rules! => | | | | \----------------------------------------------------------------------/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 2 19:31:28 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29127 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 19:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA14660 for amos-out; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14657 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:42:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (io.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.27]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10374 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (toelemworldonline.nl@asd1-p54.worldonline.nl [154.9.129.54]) by worldonline.nl (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id AAA29339 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:41:53 +0100 (MET) From: Marcel Toele To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 00:42:20 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: JwindowsExtension MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Does anybody know why I can't download the Jwindows.lha file from Aminet, I've tried several mirrors, but they all report an error... ? --------------------------------------- Tnx In Adv. Marcel Toele From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 06:10:11 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04816 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 06:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA08550 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 04:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA08547 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 04:00:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA16362 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 04:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ab517855; 3 Mar 97 0:28 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA005qb; Mon, 3 Mar 97 00:20:00 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Mar 97 00:20:00 GMT Message-Id: <9703030020.AA005q6@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <240dda2d.u8t20e.7deb2-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from "--==MURRAY==--" ) (at Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:31:04 GMT0BST) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From: Keith Hill To: PMYMAGM@pmn1.maths.nott.ac.uk Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: New Web Page Status: RO X-Status: To the one known as --==MURRAY==--, > My Page: http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm/ > The AMOS bit of it: http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm/amiga.html > 1.Load Windows You're kidding. > 2.Open Netscape (in Internet Tools or something similar) Netscrape. Thats a disease for pee-cee's isn't it ? > 3.Type in the above address in to it (the one starting with http:\\) Okay.. do I have to use netscrape.. > 4.Look at my Web Page Hey, a Spice Girls link.. > 5.Say "WOW! That Murray's an interesting bloke!" > 6.Select Sign Guestbook and wait > 7.Sign the guestbook > 8.Say "WOW! My name's on the internet!" ..yeah, ok, warning, gfx-heavy.. I'll think about it if it ever stops downloading.. _ _ _ _ _ _ | "Look over there, on the other side of your |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | galaxy; thats home" "Gallifrey" "250 million |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | light years away" "whoah" "Its a good ten | minutes in this old thing" - 8th Doctor --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 05:13:53 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20106 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 05:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA08274 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 03:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08251 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 03:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.7]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02240 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 03:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA12129 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 02:04:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from whx-ca7-25.ix.netcom.com(205.187.202.57) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma012113; Mon Mar 3 02:04:40 1997 From: Stephen Lebed Reply-To: Stephen Lebed To: Amos List Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 00:03:49 -0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: The RIOS/LEBED Project Subject: Amos Pro and Internet gaming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id DAA08261 Status: RO X-Status: I'd like to write an internet playable game. Does anyone know how I'd send and receive player data over the internet through Amos Pro? Also, once I get the info I need sorted out, I'd like to arange some way we can test it out. Anyone interested? -- Stephen Lebed The RIOS/LEBED Project slebed@ix.netcom.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 17:09:44 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18098 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:08:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28448 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28445 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:49:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA17587 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.168.244] by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.58 #10) id 0w1br7-0007H7-00; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:48:57 +0000 Received: from PMN1/MERCURYQ by pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 3 Mar 97 17:48:58 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURYQ by PMN1 (Mercury 1.21); 3 Mar 97 17:48:43 GMT0BST From: "--==MURRAY==--" Organization: Maths, The University of Nottingham To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:48:35 GMT0BST Subject: Help on my Web Page X-Confirm-Reading-To: "--==MURRAY==--" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: I wrote a letter the other day about my web page. Mostly good responses, thanks! The one that wasn't : I'm really, really hurt. Seen as I don't have the prevalidge of using an Amiga to view/create wbe pages I don't know whether things will work or not. And its much harder for me to transfer things to and from my Amiga. So I'm looking for any sort of help/advice on what I need to do or anything i'm doing wrong. My page (or at least the amiga bit of it) is being constantly updated. Q> Why do some people's lha file's automatically download but mine won't unless you specifically save it. (clicking on it just views the binary file). Q> Anyone know of where I can get the Unix Amiga emulator from. The only address I had (from darryl@fl.net.au ) isn't linked correctly. Also is it worth downloading it (i've heard some people say its rubbish and some say its not bad). Thanks. -Murray --------------------------------------------------------------------- For Amiga,Star Trek,Music and other bits n bobs.... WEB PAGE AT : http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm/ AMOS/Amiga bit at : (the above) amiga.html ====IF THE FOLLOWING IS A MESS : DON'T WORRY - IT'S NOT IMPORTANT==== +-----------------------------------+ +--------------------------+ |J Alastair Murray G | |N Best Bands Ever G | |K --------------- G | | --------------- | |N pmymagm@pmn1.maths.nott.ac.uk G | | Smashing Pumpkins | | ============================= | | The Cure | |B Web site at... G | | Nine Inch Nails | |J http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm G | | Sisters of Mercy | | | | The Wildhearts | |L SIGN MY GUESTBOOK PLEASE! G | | The Beatles | +-----------------------------------+ +--------------------------+ Instructions as to signing my guestbook. For people who don't know how. (i.e. for University People) 1.Load Windows 2.Open Netscape (in Internet Tools or something similar) 3.Type in the above address in to it (the one starting with http://) 4.Look at my Web Page 5.Say "WOW! That Murray's an interesting bloke!" 6.Select Sign Guestbook and wait 7.Sign the guestbook 8.Say "WOW! My name's on the internet!" ------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 08:18:13 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29353 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 08:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA07327 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 03:03:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07324 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 03:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA01383 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 03:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ad517855; 3 Mar 97 0:28 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA005qk; Mon, 3 Mar 97 00:25:13 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Mar 97 00:25:13 GMT Message-Id: <9703030025.AA005qf@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <240ddb66.u8t20e.c13d0-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <328.7000T1208T2885@mbox2.swipnet.se> (from Reine Johansson ) (at 02 Mar 97 20:08:57 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Keith Hill To: reine.johansson@mbox2.swipnet.se Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Systemtime Status: RO X-Status: To the one known as Reine, > How do I get the systemtime in AMOS? Example code _please_ See below. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | Zik-Zak: "We make everything you need |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | and you need everything we make." | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk '************************************* '* Time.AMOS * '* 1992 by Volker Stepprath * '* Shows the actual time of system * '************************************* ' '**** Install buffer **** ' N$=Space$(12)+Chr$(0) ' '**** Get time of system **** ' Dreg(1)=Varptr(N$) XDATESTAMP=Doscall(-192) ' '**** Calculate and show time **** ' H=Leek(Varptr(N$)+4) S=Leek(Varptr(N$)+8)/50 M=H mod 60 H=H/60 H$="00" : Right$(H$,Len(Str$(H))-1)=Str$(H)-" " M$="00" : Right$(M$,Len(Str$(M))-1)=Str$(M)-" " S$="00" : Right$(S$,Len(Str$(S))-1)=Str$(S)-" " Print H$+":"+M$+":"+S$ ' End From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 09:06:30 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14251 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA10652 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 07:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10649 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 07:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA29964 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 07:36:14 -0500 (EST) Path: news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!haven.umd.edu!ames!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!Leiden.NL.net!esa.nl!locker From: "M. Wiselius" Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: AMOS Date: 3 Mar 1997 09:29:28 GMT Organization: European Space Agency Lines: 9 Message-ID: <01bc27b6$7f2e4080$1f08b083@estbcazz.yto.estec.esa.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: estbcazz.estec.esa.nl X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news2.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:110413 ReSent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 07:36:12 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: Hi, fellow programmers, does anyone know where I can get a copy of good ole AMOS? I mean the "normal" version, not the AMOS Pro edition. I'm also looking for the manual of AMOS Pro in PDF format (Acrobat Reader). Thank you for your troubles, Marc From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 12:18:59 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12726 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14987 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14984 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19650 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from xs4all.nl (collin@drt01-28.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.29]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id PAA12996; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:41:16 +0100 (MET) From: Branko Collin To: Reine Johansson CC: Amos Discussion List Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 13:39:38 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <328.7000T1208T2885@mbox2.swipnet.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Systemtime MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Op 02-maa-97 schreef Reine Johansson: >How do I get the systemtime in AMOS? Example code _please_ Actually, this is part of the Amos Creator distribution. Well, who is going to sue me? Come to think of it, it might not be a bad idea to ask Europress to release at least the example code in the PD, providing of course they own the rights to it in the first place. '---------------------------------- ' How to get TIME and DATE in AMOS '---------------------------------- ' _DATE$ : Print Param$ _TIME$ : Print Param$ ' Procedure _DATE$ ' ' Call DOS DateStamp function T$=Space$(12) Dreg(1)=Varptr(T$) RIEN=Doscall(-192) NJ=Leek(Varptr(T$)) ' ' Find this year's first day A=1978 : JOUR=7 Do BIS=0 : If(A and 3)=0 : BIS=1 : End If Exit If NJ-365-BIS<0 Add JOUR,1+BIS : If JOUR>7 : Add JOUR,-7 : End If Add NJ,-365-BIS Inc A Loop ' ' Find month M=1 Do Read N Exit If NJ-N<0 Add NJ,-N : Inc M Loop Inc NJ ' ' Fabrique la chaine J$=Mid$(Str$(NJ),2) : If Len(J$)<2 : J$="0"+J$ : End If M$=Mid$(Str$(M),2) : If Len(M$)<2 : M$="0"+M$ : End If A$=Mid$(Str$(A),2) DATE$=J$+"-"+M$+"-"+A$ ' ' Length of each month Data 31,28+BIS,31,30,31,30,31,31,30,31,30,31 ' End Proc[DATE$] Procedure _TIME$ ' ' Call DOS function T$=Space$(12) Dreg(1)=Varptr(T$) RIEN=Doscall(-192) MN=Leek(Varptr(T$)+4) SEC=Leek(Varptr(T$)+8) ' ' Minutes calculation H=MN/60 : H$=Mid$(Str$(H),2) : If Len(H$)<2 : H$="0"+H$ : End If M=MN mod 60 : M$=Mid$(Str$(M),2) : If Len(M$)<2 : M$="0"+M$ : End If ' ' Seconds calculation S=SEC/50 : S$=Mid$(Str$(S),2) : If Len(S$)<2 : S$="0"+S$ : End If ' ' Final string TIME$=H$+":"+M$+":"+S$ ' End Proc[TIME$] ----- Branko Collin http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin collin@xs4all.nl http://www.kun.nl/undans/members/branko.htm "Erm... Erm... should I say something interesting now?" - Branko Collin - From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 12:34:41 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01335 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:34:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14992 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14989 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:41:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19646 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from xs4all.nl (collin@drt01-28.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.29]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id PAA13005; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:41:20 +0100 (MET) From: Branko Collin To: Robert Miller Foulkrod CC: Amos Discussion List Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:16:56 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: HelpWithSoundFrequencies, please. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Op 01-maa-97 schreef Robert Miller Foulkrod: >Beloved Brother and Sister Co-Creators: > Can you help me create sine-wave sounds of specific frequencies? > I am used to doing this with the SOUND statement in AmigaBASIC etc. > How can I generate 256 cycles per second in AMOS? Or 33 or 286 etc.? Paul Reece would say, get EME :-). But if you want to do it by hand, there are two ways to go about it. One is using the Set Wave and Play commands, the other is using the Sam Raw command. The first method goes something like this: W$ = "" A# = 256.0 / (2.0 * 3.1415) For I = 0 To 255 I# = I * 1.0 B = 128 + Sin(A# * I#) * 256 W$ = W$ + Chr$(B) Next I Set Wave 2, W$ By varying A# you can vary the pitch. However, you can also do that using the Play command. You'll have to try this yourself to hear the results. Sam Raw works in a similar way, but is a lot more flexible, because you can use more than 256 values to store the sample of your sinewave in. Instead of using a string, you store your sample in a bank. 'The following is enough to store one second of sound at a sample 'frequency (Fs) of 10000 samples per second, or two seconds of sound when 'Fs=5000, etc. Reserve As Chip Work 5, 10000 ST = Start(5) LE = Length(5) - 1 A# = (2.0*3.1415) / 256.0 For I = 0 To LE I# = I * 1.0 B = 128 + Sin(A# * I#) * 256 Poke ST + I, B Next I 'To play, do the following Sam Loop On Sam Raw %1111, ST, LE, 20000 Wait Key Sam Loop Off Since A# sets the number of samples needed to play one sine wave to 256, playing the sample at a frequency of 20000 you should get a sound of 78 Hz, which is very low. Use a bigger number for A# to up the frequency. Do this by dividing (2.0*3.1415) by a smaller number. The function for this F = Fs / S (Frequency is the sample frequency divided by the number of samples needed to get one sine wave). >From there on you can calculate S, which is S = Fs / F. Suppose you want to get a frequency of 440 Hz (central A), at a sample frequency of 10000: F = 440 Fs = 10000 S = 10000 / 440 = 22.73 So, A# = (2.0 * 3.14.15) / 22.73 I am typing all this off the top of my head, I cannot vouch for its correctness. But this and the manual should get you on the way. In case you do not have the manual (when you've got a coverdisk version), there's a manual on Aminet. By the way, there is a third way, which is simply to use a sample editor to record the sound you require, then play it using Sam Raw. ----- Branko Collin http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin collin@xs4all.nl http://www.kun.nl/undans/members/branko.htm "Erm... Erm... should I say something interesting now?" - Branko Collin - From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 15:24:52 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21201 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA29063 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 13:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29055 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 13:08:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (io.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.27]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20147 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 13:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (toelemworldonline.nl@asd2-p24.worldonline.nl [154.9.150.24]) by worldonline.nl (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA03270 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:08:03 +0100 (MET) From: Marcel Toele To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:19:56 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Extensions part II MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hello fellow AmosUsers ! I would like to know what the following extensions are about, since they were not on the NET, I don't know what they are used for and where I can find them... -------------------------------------------- - Range V2.8 - TOME V2.24 - DSAM - CRAFT - MusiCraft - Amos OS Interface -------------------------------------------- tNx Marcel Toele ---------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 15:14:39 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19810 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23165 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:01:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23162 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:01:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.paston.co.uk (red.paston.co.uk [194.129.188.3]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10225 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from paston.co.uk ([194.129.188.201]) by red.paston.co.uk with SMTP id <843826-11414>; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:59:54 -0000 From: Ben Wyatt To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 16:59:20 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Rough details for an AMOS type language are on my web page at: http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html It's aiming to be as easy to use as AMOS, but with more powerful features, such as OOP and dynamic objects, and encourages better and neater code. I'd really appreciate any ideas you may have. Bye_______________________________ / \ / Ben Wyatt - bwyatt@paston.co.uk \ \ or b.wyatt@uea.ac.uk / \_______________________________/ (c)1995-97 Very Interesting Signatures From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 17:04:59 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04377 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA26589 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26582 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (golden.org [199.166.210.2]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00579 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (Giark@cisco4-198.golden.net [207.6.168.198]) by golden.net (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA14346 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:25:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 12:24:10 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Amos Pro and Internet gaming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 03-Mar-97, Stephen Lebed wrote: >I'd like to write an internet playable game. Does anyone know how I'd send >and receive player data over the internet through Amos Pro? There's a library on Aminet that will handle it. Or, you can use TCP: and do it all yourself. >Also, once I get the info I need sorted out, I'd like to arange some way we >can test it out. Anyone interested? I'll help you test it out. Well met and godspeed, Giark joehick@golden.net http://www.golden.net/~joehick/fbn/index.html ______ ______ _____ .------------------------------------------. / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ! AMOS games, utilities, demos, etc. ! / /__ / /_/ / / / / / ! ! / ___/ / ___ | / / / / ! CyberSpace BBS (519)579-0072 ! / / / /__/ / / / / / ! on A2000 060/50MHz (519)579-0173 ! /_/ /______/ /_/ /_/ ! ! Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! ! FBN Amiga 500 020 14MHz 1C/5F RAM 3.1OS ! `------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 16:21:27 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26827 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23786 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23783 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from korovev.stm.it (korovev.stm.it [194.244.30.1]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29076 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from agora.stm.it (agora.stm.it [194.20.43.1]) by korovev.stm.it (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA21884 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:10:35 +0100 (ITA) Message-Id: <199703031710.SAA21884@korovev.stm.it> From: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it (M.Berionne) Date: Lun, 03 Mar 97 18:06:00 Reply-To: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it X-Mailer: Bomb! 2.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re:Extensions Status: RO X-Status: Hello! > Does anybody know any useful extensions for AmosPro2.0 ??? The best extensions around probably are: - AMCAF: it's shareware, demo available on Aminet. It has a LOT of useful commands. - TURBO: it's shareware, demo available on Aminet. It has replacements for standard Amos commands. - LDOS: it's quite good, even if not so useful. - EASYLIFE: not bad, but it needs an external library. - INTUITION: the first intuition etx, but I think Gui is far better! Bye M.Berionne@agora.stm.it >>Bomb!2.0<< +--------------------------ON AMINET----------------------------+ | game/think/VenusTris.lha game/misc/SnailRace.lha | | game/shoot/fantasy.lha util/time/MReminder.lha | | game/think/Atoms31.lha util/misc/Dialer2.lha | | game/think/navalbattle.lha game/think/Manos.lha | | game/shoot/in_the_target.lha dev/lang/Logo1_4.lha | | gfx/show/PhotoCDAGA_GUI.lha | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 22:33:52 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA05868 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 22:33:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04378 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04375 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:31:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA16406 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.168.244] by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.58 #10) id 0w1k0L-0004av-00; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 02:31:01 +0000 Received: from PMN1/MERCURYQ by pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 4 Mar 97 02:31:06 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURYQ by PMN1 (Mercury 1.21); 4 Mar 97 02:30:56 GMT0BST From: "--==MURRAY==--" Organization: Maths, The University of Nottingham To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 02:30:48 GMT0BST Subject: Lha X-Confirm-Reading-To: "--==MURRAY==--" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: Does anyone know if the Amiga LHA would work with PC Lha and vice- versa? e.g. Could I get some files from my Amiga. Lha them on a PC version of Lha. Put them on the web page and allow other users to un-lha them on an Amiga. Thanks -Murray --------------------------------------------------------------------- For Amiga,Star Trek,Music and other bits n bobs.... WEB PAGE AT : http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm/ AMOS/Amiga bit at : (the above) amiga.html ====IF THE FOLLOWING IS A MESS : DON'T WORRY - IT'S NOT IMPORTANT==== +-----------------------------------+ +--------------------------+ |J Alastair Murray G | |N Best Bands Ever G | |K --------------- G | | --------------- | |N pmymagm@pmn1.maths.nott.ac.uk G | | Smashing Pumpkins | | ============================= | | The Cure | |B Web site at... G | | Nine Inch Nails | |J http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm G | | Sisters of Mercy | | | | The Wildhearts | |L SIGN MY GUESTBOOK PLEASE! G | | The Beatles | +-----------------------------------+ +--------------------------+ Instructions as to signing my guestbook. For people who don't know how. (i.e. for University People) 1.Load Windows 2.Open Netscape (in Internet Tools or something similar) 3.Type in the above address in to it (the one starting with http://) 4.Look at my Web Page 5.Say "WOW! That Murray's an interesting bloke!" 6.Select Sign Guestbook and wait 7.Sign the guestbook 8.Say "WOW! My name's on the internet!" ------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 19:12:42 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04595 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA14563 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14560 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (root@vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca [199.60.222.1]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19224 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uv334@localhost) by vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13311; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 13:01:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 13:01:49 -0800 (PST) From: John Bintz Subject: Re: Amos Pro and Internet gaming To: Stephen Lebed cc: Amos List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Stephen Lebed wrote: > I'd like to write an internet playable game. Does anyone know how I'd send and receive player data over the internet through Amos Pro? > > Also, once I get the info I need sorted out, I'd like to arange some way we can test it out. Anyone interested? Its really easy to access a TCP/IP stack from any programming language that lets you open a port. Just use the command: Open Port 1,"TCP:/; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26262 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from access5.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access5.digex.net [205.197.245.196]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26255 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:37:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access5.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA13231; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:36:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:36:36 -0500 (EST) From: AoD To: Marcel Toele cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Extensions part II In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Marcel Toele wrote: > - Range V2.8 Also know as AMOS Club Extension. Adds commands like Select Case, Mki, list commands in extension, etc. Only available if you had joined the UK Club. > - TOME V2.24 A map editor. Only available if you bought it from UK Club/Shadow Software/Aaron Fothergill. > - DSAM Sample extension. Works with sound samples. It was on a coverdisk but I think that was before Pro. > - CRAFT > - MusiCraft These two went together and were on a coverdisk. CRAFT adds lots of commands. MusicCraft enhanced music commands > - Amos OS Interface I think it helped you create intuition windows. Michael -- Michael Cox Work: michaelc@gsg.eds.com A1200/465/CD + 1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: mcox@access.digex.net For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! AMOS WWW: http://www.dragonfire.net/~amos/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 3 19:47:03 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28802 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:47:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27413 for amos-out; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:51:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27410 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from kruuna.Helsinki.FI (palaste@kruuna.helsinki.fi [128.214.180.131]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09304 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from palaste@localhost) by kruuna.Helsinki.FI (8.8.5/8.8.0) id AAA12481; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:51:30 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:51:29 +0200 (EET) From: Joona I Palaste X-Sender: palaste@kruuna.Helsinki.FI To: --==MURRAY==-- cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Help on my Web Page In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, --==MURRAY==-- wrote: > Q> Why do some people's lha file's automatically download but mine > won't unless you specifically save it. (clicking on it just views the > binary file). I've had reports of similar problems from my page. The trick is, I believe, holding the Shift key down while clicking on the file. Try that. /----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Joona Palaste | | | | | palaste@cc.helsinki.fi | | | | | G++ FR FW+ M- #20 D+ ADA N+++ W++ B OP+ |------- -----------------| | |------- -----------------| | | | | | | Finland rules! => | | | | \----------------------------------------------------------------------/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 06:26:03 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02005 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 06:26:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA19342 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 03:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19339 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 03:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16213 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 03:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P10.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.10]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA16312 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:04:38 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:55:51 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 03-Mar-97, Ben Wyatt wrote: >Rough details for an AMOS type language are on my web page at: >http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html >It's aiming to be as easy to use as AMOS, but with more powerful features, >such as OOP and dynamic objects, and encourages better and neater code. I have been thinking about why amos is so popular, and I think it is mostly because it have such good editor. I can only dreaming about working in C with such editor :( So, I think that your lang sould have very very similar editor, or better. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 05:01:28 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27628 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 05:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA19375 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 03:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19363 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 03:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06966 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 03:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P10.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.10]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA16317 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:04:43 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:01:30 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Amos Pro and Internet gaming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 03-Mar-97, Mr. Giark To You wrote: >>I'd like to write an internet playable game. Does anyone know how I'd send >>and receive player data over the internet through Amos Pro? >There's a library on Aminet that will handle it. Or, you can use TCP: and do >it all yourself. Maybe it is easier and more suitable to do it via YAM or some other mailer? BTW, I would also like to test it :99 -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 10:17:58 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20683 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:17:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA21974 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21971 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from kulmbach.baynet.de (kulmbach1.kulmbach.baynet.de [194.95.194.130]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA12413 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from kulmbach.baynet.de by kulmbach.baynet.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA18206; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:51:09 -0700 From: Benjamin Asen Reply-To: Lonestar@kulmbach.baynet.de To: AoD Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1978 03:25:23 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ODIN Entertainment Productions Subject: Who the xxx is Alastair? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id IAA21972 Status: RO X-Status: Hi folks! I am looking for (or is "searching" right? My english is soooo poor!) Alastair M. Robinson! Is he on the list? He wrotes a demo of a very good and faaaast DOOM-clone called AMRWolf! Its only a demo, but it is in AMOS and really good! Does anyone know his E-Mail or homepage or anything else? Greetz, Lonestar. -- +--------------------------------+ | ODIN ENTERTAINMENT PRODUCTIONS | +--+---------------+----------+--+ | | BENJAMIN ASEN | LONESTAR | | | +---------------+----------+ | | LONESTAR@KULMBACH.BAYNET.DE | +--------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 10:19:17 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20767 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA20395 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 05:59:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20392 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 05:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15093 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 05:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:58:43 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 4 Mar 97 11:01:52 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.21); 4 Mar 97 11:01:09 GMT+0 From: "Lee." Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:00:18 GMT+0 Subject: SoundFrequencies or summat! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <14FEFF120A5@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: RO X-Status: I have recently done this in a game. Try this:- Reserve As Chip Work 10,640 Degree for q=0 to 639 poke start(10)+q,sin(q)*127.0 next q sam loop on sam raw %11,start(10),639,FRE Where FRE is yer frequency/2 I think!!!! The sample sits around 0 not 128 because the MSB is used to indecate -ve. You could also mix and create strange sounds using a bit of fourier synthesis but I aint going to go into details here;-) ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK ____________________________________ During the 2nd decade of the 21st century, the Sun will have the highest gravitational pull on the Earth. This has only happened once before! Around the time the dinosaurs died out! ____________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 08:30:36 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10258 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA20409 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 06:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20406 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 06:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15914 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 06:09:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:08:16 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 4 Mar 97 11:11:25 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.21); 4 Mar 97 11:10:55 GMT+0 From: "Lee." Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:06:07 GMT+0 Subject: Amos and system cleaning! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <150199F73BA@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: RO X-Status: Whats with Amos? Heres the situation:- I have a C2P routine which is called from DOS something like:- com$="ram:smallc2p" dreg(1)=varptr(com$) dreg(2)=0 dreg(3)=0 x=doscall(-222) This returns -1 in x to show OK But after calling a few times Amos stops for a few seconds while doing something and then fails to call again! Do you recon this is another bug or summat? ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK ____________________________________ During the 2nd decade of the 21st century, the Sun will have the highest gravitational pull on the Earth. This has only happened once before! Around the time the dinosaurs died out! ____________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 15:38:25 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28491 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04012 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04007 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA19567 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:37:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from l68.redrose.net ([205.246.83.130]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa929713; 4 Mar 97 16:21 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 11:23:44 -0500 To: Mush From: Mush Subject: Constructive Comments Wanted Message-ID: <857492498.929713.0@l68.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: Ive been working on a new set of AMOS homepages for my site. I would like you people to go and visit them,. and give me some constructive comment about them. The old pages remain where they are at the moment, but the test pages can be found at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/test.html and the HTML there will change every few hours or so when I test new files. They look a bit bare GFX wise, but there is a hell of a lot more information on them. Im looking for new AMOS URL`s to add to the links, other than the ones I already have on my links page. GFX have been cut down dramatically, as you will agree with me, and no large text buttons. All comments appreciated. Could someone test the EA form as well please. thank-you. PS. All tutorials and stuff AMOS related you want included, please send them to me immediately, so they can be uploaded. I would also like to know if anyone has ideas for new sections. Im currently working onb a section for downloading all the AMOS extensions. All the best Andy Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Supplier Editor of Extreme AMOS - the BEST AMOS disk magazine around!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 17:12:05 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24641 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:12:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10582 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10578 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13037 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from xs4all.nl (collin@drt01-07.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.8]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id TAA24945 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:15:32 +0100 (MET) From: Branko Collin To: Amos Discussion List Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:10:33 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 09-jan-07 Nikola Smolenski wrote: >On 03-Mar-97, Ben Wyatt wrote: >>Rough details for an AMOS type language are on my web page at: >>http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html >>It's aiming to be as easy to use as AMOS, but with more powerful >>features, such as OOP and dynamic objects, and encourages better and >>neater code. >I have been thinking about why amos is so popular, and I think it is >mostly because it have such good editor. I can only dreaming about >working in C with such editor :( So, I think that your lang sould have >very very similar editor, or better. I have been giving this some thought recently too, for two reasons: -I am compiling the Future of Amos Homepage I announced, and you cannot do that without wondering why Amos is so popular/good. -I recently started a pseudo software company with a friend, and I have been reading up on games creation lately. Apparently, when you write games, you use more tools than just the programming language (and/or its editor). For instance, when writing a platform game, you use a map editor, a sprite editor, a paint package, etc. What is so wonderful about Amos (IMHO) is that it doesn't just provide you with a language to program games in, but also a language to program game-making tools in. Writing a sprite-grabber in Amos is so easy, its laughable. I think that is one of the greatest assets of Amos. But maybe Ben likes to comment on that himself, as he is a good game author. ----- Branko Collin http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin collin@xs4all.nl http://www.kun.nl/undans/members/branko.htm "Erm... Erm... should I say something interesting now?" - Branko Collin - From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 15:22:24 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26857 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11146 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11143 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (io.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.27]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02517 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (toelemworldonline.nl@asd1-p10.worldonline.nl [154.9.129.10]) by worldonline.nl (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA28699 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:35:55 +0100 (MET) From: Marcel Toele To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:15:46 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Amos CDRom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Does anybody know how to control the cdrom player (i.e. to make it play audio cd's) ? I have an Atapi CDRomplayer and I am using AtaPi_PnP. I was thinking of using some external library's, maybe using the CD.Device, but that's way too complicated for me... -HELP- tnx ! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 17:36:21 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10342 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11151 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11148 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (io.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.27]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02560 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:36:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (toelemworldonline.nl@asd1-p10.worldonline.nl [154.9.129.10]) by worldonline.nl (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA28715 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:35:57 +0100 (MET) From: Marcel Toele To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:33:07 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Lprint Chr$(0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hello AMOS-users of the world ! I have this very complicated problem: THE INTRODUCTION: I have an external device connected to my Parallel port. It has some relais (electronic switches) mounted on it and it's purpose is to make me able to control virtually anything that is attached to the switches: e.g. Motors and lights and stuff (like controlling Robots from your computer)... Well so far for the introduction... I want to code an AMOS program so that I can control the device, It has 8 of those switches, and I can turn them on and off bye printing ordinay characters to the device, like printing "d" or "e" or "4" for instance... I use the Chr$ command to convert my 1 (turn on first relais (=switch) , and 2, 4, 8, etc... to turn on the others... I just have to add them all to turn on more then one switch... for instance: if I wanted to turn on the first and last switch...: the first has number 1 and the last has number 128, to turn them both on it would make 1+128=129 and if I the do an AMOS command like: Lprint Chr$(129) The first and last switch would turn on... THE PROBLEM: But!!! When I want them all to be turned off, I am supposed to send a Chr$(0) to the Printerport: LPrint Chr$(0) And THAT my dear friends is what AMOS(Pro) is lacking... AMOSPro does not send the NULL string to the printer port and thus making it impossible for me the shut off all the switches... THE QUESTION For all of you who are still reading :) I was now thinking of poking the adress of the Parallel port itself, by sending an 8 bit integer to the aprpriate address (integer should be something like '0' (gna, gna :) ) Well here's my question: Does anybode know what poke address I should use, and how to poke it...? Or, Does anybody know how two solve this problem in a different way ??? I would be very grateful to the one I helps me ou on this one !!! GrTz 2 dA AMOS Community !!! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 19:25:22 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05129 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02913 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02910 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.paston.co.uk (red.paston.co.uk [194.129.188.3]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00497 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from paston.co.uk ([194.129.188.201]) by red.paston.co.uk with SMTP id <844034-11415>; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:35:41 -0000 From: Ben Wyatt To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 20:43:00 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 09-Jan-07, Nikola Smolenski sat on a keyboard and produced this mess: > >Rough details for an AMOS type language are on my web page at: > >http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html > >It's aiming to be as easy to use as AMOS, but with more powerful features, > >such as OOP and dynamic objects, and encourages better and neater code. > I have been thinking about why amos is so popular, and I think it is mostly > because it have such good editor. I can only dreaming about working in C with > such editor :( Yes, I totally agree. Especially the method for folding and unfolding functions - it makes source management much easier and often eliminates the need for multiple sources. > So, I think that your lang sould have very very similar editor, or better. Yeah, the AMOSPro editor is fantastic. There are a few improvements it needs though, such as keyword highlighting. Also, it should be possible to fold up other structures such as loops. Thank you for your suggestions. Bye_______________________________ / \ / Ben Wyatt - bwyatt@paston.co.uk \ \ or b.wyatt@uea.ac.uk / \_______________________________/ (c)1995-97 Very Interesting Signatures From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 01:11:22 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA02606 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA19318 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 00:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19314 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 00:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from foreigner.class.udg.mx (foreigner.class.udg.mx [148.202.3.5]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05034 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 00:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from slip-109.cencar.udg.mx (slip-109.cencar.udg.mx [148.202.33.209]) by foreigner.class.udg.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA18113 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:14:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <331BCC44.4F83@foreigner.class.udg.mx> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 23:16:20 -0800 From: Manuel Tonatiuh Moreno Reply-To: hugor@foreigner.staff.udg.mx X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > On 03-Mar-97, Ben Wyatt wrote: > >Rough details for an AMOS type language are on my web page at: > > >http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html > > >It's aiming to be as easy to use as AMOS, but with more powerful features, > >such as OOP and dynamic objects, and encourages better and neater code. > > I have been thinking about why amos is so popular, and I think it is mostly > because it have such good editor. I can only dreaming about working in C with > such editor :( So, I think that your lang sould have very very similar editor, > or better. I agree with that. I tried to work with blitz and I couldnīt just because of the hostile enviroment. The front-end, the user interface, should have a friendly look and versatile work-frame. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 03:57:36 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26684 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 03:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA23890 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA23887 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA25069 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ab504098; 5 Mar 97 6:53 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA005s1; Wed, 5 Mar 97 02:12:43 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 02:12:43 GMT Message-Id: <9703050212.AA005rw@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <24109794.u8t20e.adb75-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Nikola Smolenski ) (at Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:55:51 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: smolensk@eunet.yu Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id BAA23888 Status: RO X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To the one known as Nikola, > I have been thinking about why amos is so popular, and I think it is mostly > because it have such good editor. I can only dreaming about working in C with > such editor :( So, I think that your lang sould have very very similar editor, > or better. ..hey... emacs is the best editor available.. but then again, the completely integrated amos environment is really quite good. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "Hey Beavis, does this suck ?" |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6ui (Amiga) iQBFAgUBMxzkqRhvTOOyI+ylAQGR+wF/cVzx8iTjw8l5oY15RbNMqvLlkOSKyfGt 3ZjgNQkSoS/nagOrCAGBNYP/Pqhtn43c =WX5Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 05:17:42 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25837 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 05:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA23900 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23897 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:01:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA09510 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:01:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ad504098; 5 Mar 97 6:54 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA005sa; Wed, 5 Mar 97 02:27:47 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 02:27:47 GMT Message-Id: <9703050227.AA005s5@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <24109aa0.u8t20e.6d28f-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Marcel Toele ) (at Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:33:07 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: toelem@worldonline.nl Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Lprint Chr$(0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id CAA23898 Status: RO X-Status: To the one known as Marcel, > Hello AMOS-users of the world ! Hi.. > I have this very complicated problem: Ok. > THE INTRODUCTION: > I have an external device connected to my Parallel port. It has some relais Right. Forget the lprint stuff, I have code here that is exactly what you want. Unfortunately, it is stored on my A2000, which last week released it's blue smoke, so this is gonna be tricky. I can't find a hard copy either. Argh. ..oh, and your relays, I hope you have them buffered through transistor(or equiv) switches, or you'll blow your CIA chips to oblivion. I loved playing with robots. I'll dump the code on the list when I get hold of another machine that can read my hard drive.. _ _ _ _ _ _ | Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #34 |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | Peace is good for business. |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #35 | War is good for business. --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 22:26:31 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21506 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06842 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 20:50:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06839 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 20:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout00.btx.dtag.de (mailout00.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.148]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10408 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 20:50:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailto00.btx.dtag.de ([172.16.2.1]) by mailout00.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Wed, 5 Mar 97 02:46 MET Received: from MarkSchuette ([194.25.3.204]) by mailto00.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Wed, 5 Mar 97 02:46 MET Received: by MarkSchuette.T-Online.de (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Wed, 5 Mar 97 02:46:00 Received: by MarkSchuette.T-Online.de (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Wed, 5 Mar 97 02:28:20 From: Mark Schütte Reply-To: MarkSchuette@T-Online.de Organization: Representing me, myself & I MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Serious Voodoo 1.270 (Registered to Mark Schuette ) In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Lprint Chr$(0) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:28:19 (+0100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <19970305.79354F0.26A9@MarkSchuette.T-Online.de> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:33:07 +0100 Marcel Toele wrote to amos-list@access.digex.net about 'Lprint Chr$(0)': [...] > I want to code an AMOS program so that I can control the device, It has 8 of > those switches, and I can turn them on and off bye printing ordinay characters > to the device, like printing "d" or "e" or "4" for instance... > > I use the Chr$ command to convert my 1 (turn on first relais (=switch) , and > 2, 4, 8, etc... to turn on the others... [...] > if I the do an AMOS command like: > > Lprint Chr$(129) [...] > THE PROBLEM: > > But!!! > When I want them all to be turned off, I am supposed to send a Chr$(0) to the > Printerport: > > LPrint Chr$(0) > > And THAT my dear friends is what AMOS(Pro) is lacking... AMOSPro does not send > the NULL string to the printer port and thus making it impossible for me the > shut off all the switches... > > THE QUESTION > > For all of you who are still reading :) > > I was now thinking of poking the adress of the Parallel port itself, by > sending an 8 bit integer to the aprpriate address (integer should be something > like '0' (gna, gna :) ) > > Well here's my question: > > Does anybode know what poke address I should use, and how to poke it...? > > Or, Does anybody know how two solve this problem in a different way ??? Hi Marcel! Well I used to have problems too concerning sending ascii-codes to the printer using LPrint-commands, which is probably due to handling printer output by amos itself in a typ of a filter or something (don't know much about devices). Also I don't know how I used to fix this, since this has been a while ago, but I remember that there is a way. Try either: PRINTER OPEN, PRINTER SEND, PRINTER CLOSE commands or PARALLEL OPEN, PARALLEL SEND,... commands or OPEN PORT channel, "PAR:" PRINT# channel, CHR$(0) ... or OPEN OUT channel, "PAR:" (usually for seq. data files but should work with PAR: as well) PRINT# channel, chr$(0) ... I have AMOS Pro , so I don't know if all is featured by the Creator. But OPEN OUT.. should work, since I guess file creating is possible in Amos v1.3x. --> If everything fails try this: create a file ('NULL-FILE') just containing the NULL String in the t: drawer and then let Amos send a CLI command for sending this one to the par:-device: EXEC "type t:'NULL-FILE' ","PAR:" or EXEC "type >PAR: t:'NULL-FILE' ", "CON:" Even in this case I don't know if the EXEC Command is AmosPro specific. About your Poke idea I can say nothing at all, since I forgot everything about peeks & pokes since I sold my C64. Let us know, if something worked. Bye, Mark P.S. Hello everybody - I'm new on the list and it's great. -- Mark Schütte Hamburg, Germany Phone: +49/40/4807541 eMail: MarkSchuette@T-Online.de From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 4 20:00:28 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20699 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 20:00:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA04129 for amos-out; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04124 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from iccu6.ipswich.gil.com.au (iccu6.ipswich.gil.com.au [203.1.75.10]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02807 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from gil.com.au (cs9p7.ipswich.gil.com.au [203.1.72.166]) by iccu6.ipswich.gil.com.au with SMTP id JAA29739 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:46:53 +1000 From: Bob Devries Reply-To: bdevries@gil.com.au To: Marcel Toele CC: AMOS Mailing List Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 09:46:53 GMT+10 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Lprint Chr$(0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 04-Mar-97, Marcel Toele wrote: >Lprint Chr$(129) >The first and last switch would turn on... >THE PROBLEM: >But!!! >When I want them all to be turned off, I am supposed to send a Chr$(0) to the >Printerport: >LPrint Chr$(0) Rather than use the Lprint function, you'd need to open a port to the PAR: device, and use that. This is a common failing in some BASIC-like programming languages. -- Regards,Bob Devries This is Australia calling... Is there anybody out there...? +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ | Bob Devries | Australian National OS9 | | bdevries@gil.com.au | Public Domain Library | | | Serving OS9 Users | | Ph: +61 7 3278 7209 -|- | Since 1988 | | | | | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ | See my WWW home page at http://gil.com.au/~bdevries/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 13:45:33 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18991 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 13:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04719 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04716 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.paston.co.uk (red.paston.co.uk [194.129.188.3]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21871 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from paston.co.uk ([194.129.188.201]) by red.paston.co.uk with SMTP id <843773-11414> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:08:52 -0000 From: Ben Wyatt To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 22:48:35 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Status: RO X-Status: On 04-Mar-97, Branko Collin sat on a keyboard and produced this mess: > I have been giving this some thought recently too, for two reasons: > -I am compiling the Future of Amos Homepage I announced, and you cannot do > that without wondering why Amos is so popular/good. > -I recently started a pseudo software company with a friend, and I have been > reading up on games creation lately. > Apparently, when you write games, you use more tools than just the programming > language (and/or its editor). For instance, when writing a platform game, you > use a map editor, a sprite editor, a paint package, etc. What is so wonderful > about Amos (IMHO) is that it doesn't just provide you with a language to > program games in, but also a language to program game-making tools in. Writing > a sprite-grabber in Amos is so easy, its laughable. > I think that is one of the greatest assets of Amos. Yes, I agree. There are many features of AMOS which make it so great. AMOS programming is the way all programming should be. It's ridiculous how complex programming is getting, with languages such as C++ and Java - it's mostly unneccessary. Bye ____________________________________________________ / \ / Ben Wyatt - bwyatt@paston.co.uk or b.wyatt@uea.ac.uk \ \ http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html / \____________________________________________________/ (c)1995-97 Very Interesting Signatures Ltd. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 17:52:44 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11781 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 17:52:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA27025 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27020 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (io.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.27]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23044 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldonline.nl (toelemworldonline.nl@asd2-p31.worldonline.nl [154.9.150.31]) by worldonline.nl (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA18079 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:26:16 +0100 (MET) From: Marcel Toele To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 02:53:20 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Op 09-jan-07 schreef Nikola Smolenski: >On 03-Mar-97, Ben Wyatt wrote: >>Rough details for an AMOS type language are on my web page at: >>http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html >>It's aiming to be as easy to use as AMOS, but with more powerful features, >>such as OOP and dynamic objects, and encourages better and neater code. >I have been thinking about why amos is so popular, and I think it is mostly >because it have such good editor. I can only dreaming about working in C with >such editor :( So, I think that your lang sould have very very similar editor, >or better. May I make a comment on this, Yes, I do too think the Amos-Editor is great, but I can only be opened on a PAL screen. So keep the editor the same (or better) but make it have an Screenmode requestor of some sort... besides, AGA-support and Intuition support should be standard, but you already planned that, of course... :) >-- >_ _ _ _ _ _ _ >\--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ >\\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// >`\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' > Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu > * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 16:11:36 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03190 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:11:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA23231 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 13:47:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23223 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 13:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19429 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 13:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from xs4all.nl (collin@drt01-14.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.15]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id TAA04285 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 19:47:30 +0100 (MET) From: Branko Collin To: Amos Discussion List Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 08:18:11 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19970305.79354F0.26A9@MarkSchuette.T-Online.de> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Lprint Chr$(0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA23225 Status: RO X-Status: On 05-maa-97 Mark Schütte wrote: >On Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:33:07 +0100 >Marcel Toele wrote to amos-list@access.digex.net >about 'Lprint Chr$(0)': > > When I want them all to be turned off, I am supposed to send a > > Chr$(0) to the Printerport: > > > > LPrint Chr$(0) > > > > And THAT my dear friends is what AMOS(Pro) is lacking... AMOSPro does > > not send the NULL string to the printer port and thus making it > > impossible for me the shut off all the switches... >OPEN OUT channel, "PAR:" (usually for seq. data files but should work >with PAR: as well) > PRINT# channel, chr$(0) > ... This should work, and if Amos is the least bit system friendly, LPrint Chr$(0) shouldn't work. What happens is this. The parallel port is called PAR:. Anything hanging off the parallel port should be addressed using PAR:. However, on Amigas there is also a device called PRT:. This device exists because a lot of printers have different command sets. Using PRT: and a printer-driver, the Amiga will intercept any data sent to the printer and try to translate the data to something the printer selected by its driver in the preferences can understand. So my guess is that using LPrint you send the data to PRT: instead of PAR:. > Hello everybody - I'm new on the list and it's great. And already helping out :-). ----- Branko Collin http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin collin@xs4all.nl http://www.kun.nl/undans/members/branko.htm "Erm... Erm... should I say something interesting now?" - Branko Collin - From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 07:41:54 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15670 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 07:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA00115 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 05:10:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00112 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 05:10:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from europa.salford.ac.uk (europa.salford.ac.uk [146.87.3.2]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03063 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 05:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cms-notes-a.salford.ac.uk by europa.salford.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:09:25 +0000 Received: by cms-notes-a.salford.ac.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (305.3 1-15-1997)) id 80256451.0037DA86 ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:10:04 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: UNIVERSITY OF SALFORD From: Lee S Howarth To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <80256451.00363E9A.00@cms-notes-a.salford.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:02:54 +0100 Subject: re:amos cdrom Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: in reply to trix... I also have the same setup for my cdrom and decided that i would try to code a cdplayer in amos... i found some technical info that is given away with the atapi p n p kit(i got my version off a CU AMIGA CD ROM), inside that documents where details and example uses of the cd.device to drive the cd rom :-) I used these and at the moment i can get my cd player to open and close and (sometimes) play the first track... as you can probably work out I am only a little way into developing it but all the details are there in the PnP docs :-) If you look in the AMOSPRO manual you will find the commands for doing device calls and library calls... if you don`t have the manuals the commands should be in the help file... Lee From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 09:21:19 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22722 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA00343 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 06:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00340 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 06:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpt6.stm.tudelft.nl (cpt6.stm.tudelft.nl [130.161.247.6]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA08598 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 06:32:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703051132.GAA08598@mail2.access.digex.net> Received: by cpt6.stm.tudelft.nl (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA18806; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:31:51 +0100 From: "Maarten D. de Jong" Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 12:31:51 MET In-Reply-To: ; from "Nikola Smolenski" at Mar 5, 97 11:56 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: RO X-Status: > > On 05-Mar-97, Keith Hill wrote: > >> I have been thinking about why amos is so popular, and I think it is mostly > >> because it have such good editor. I can only dreaming about working in C > >with > >> such editor :( So, I think that your lang sould have very very similar > >editor, > >> or better. The only thing which makes this piece of software ticking is its IDE. A stand-alone AMOS editor would not hold a candle to the light of GoldED or Amis. Or the other editors available for the Amiga. (Even sed, the SAS/C-editor). > >..hey... emacs is the best editor available.. but then again, the > >completely integrated amos environment is really quite good. > > Emacs? Could it fold procedures or indent the code? I think he is talking about the _complete_ Emacs, not the C=-version. The real Emacs can do all this and more. But discussing editors is practically a forbidden subject -- let everyone decide for him or herself which editor suits best. Maarten From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 13:30:19 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18050 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 13:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05491 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:24:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05488 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:24:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from kruuna.Helsinki.FI (palaste@kruuna.helsinki.fi [128.214.180.131]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23116 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:24:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from palaste@localhost) by kruuna.Helsinki.FI (8.8.5/8.8.0) id QAA18027; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:24:37 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:24:36 +0200 (EET) From: Joona I Palaste X-Sender: palaste@kruuna.Helsinki.FI To: Nikola Smolenski cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > On 04-Mar-97, Ben Wyatt wrote: > >fold up other structures such as loops. > > Sounds interesting, but I don't know how would you do it. Type a loop, such as: For I=1 to 10 Print "Mûrkhâ bhavatha" Next I and then go to the first line, press F9, and all you can see is: For I=1 to 10 even though all the code is still there. How else would you fold a loop? /----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Joona Palaste | | | | | palaste@cc.helsinki.fi | | | | | G++ FR FW+ M- #20 D+ ADA N+++ W++ B OP+ |------- -----------------| | |------- -----------------| | | | | | | Finland rules! => | | | | \----------------------------------------------------------------------/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 12:54:35 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03503 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05546 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:27:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05543 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:27:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from kruuna.Helsinki.FI (palaste@kruuna.helsinki.fi [128.214.180.131]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23392 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from palaste@localhost) by kruuna.Helsinki.FI (8.8.5/8.8.0) id QAA18483; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:27:10 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:27:09 +0200 (EET) From: Joona I Palaste X-Sender: palaste@kruuna.Helsinki.FI To: amos-list@access.digex.com Subject: Compiling with CRAFT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Hey everybody! I own the CRAFT extension, and have installed it on my AMOS Pro system. My question is this: If I compile a program that uses CRAFT commands, it works fine on my machine, but does it work on machines that don't have CRAFT installed? Does the CRAFT code go into libraries or into the program itself? Explanations would be appreciated. /----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Joona Palaste | | | | | palaste@cc.helsinki.fi | | | | | G++ FR FW+ M- #20 D+ ADA N+++ W++ B OP+ |------- -----------------| | |------- -----------------| | | | | | | Finland rules! => | | | | \----------------------------------------------------------------------/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 14:57:56 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15910 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:57:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08421 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:53:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08418 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA02311 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:53:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ae518841; 5 Mar 97 15:47 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA005su; Wed, 5 Mar 97 14:30:22 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 14:30:22 GMT Message-Id: <9703051430.AA005sp@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <2411447b.u8t20e.9d36f-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Nikola Smolenski ) (at Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:52:41 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 From: Keith Hill To: smolensk@eunet.yu Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id KAA08419 Status: RO X-Status: To the one known as Nikola, > >I agree with that. I tried to work with blitz and I couldnīt just > >because of the hostile enviroment. The front-end, the user interface, > >should have a friendly look and versatile work-frame. ..Blitz's environment is beyond hideous. The editor just sucks so much. > Not just that, IMHO that isn't important, but automatic spell-checking, > testing, indenting and procedure folding are MUST! And, of course on-line > help. BTW, it must not be as 'user - friendly' as QBasic on PeeZee - it > wouldn't let you go off line untill you have write it correctly. And yes, > it should (to the contrary of Amos editor) have standard key shortcut > wherever possible (specially for cut/copy/paste). Spooll chockign ?? Why ? The cut and paste should be configgable. My left-amiga key is on F12.. Testing, indending and folding, yep ! _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "I'm gonna be Frank" |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | "Okay, can I still be Garth ?" | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 19:36:40 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19586 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 19:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA08660 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:03:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08655 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:03:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.paston.co.uk (red.paston.co.uk [194.129.188.3]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00850 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from paston.co.uk ([194.129.188.201]) by red.paston.co.uk with SMTP id <843897-11415>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:01:26 -0000 From: Ben Wyatt To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 14:56:56 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 09-Jan-07, Nikola Smolenski sat on a keyboard and produced this mess: > >fold up other structures such as loops. > Sounds interesting, but I don't know how would you do it. You'd press F9 or whatever, and it scans to see if you're in a loop. If not, it checks if you're in a procedure. Or have a separate key for it. > Also, it would be nice for it to have some kind of procedures in > procedures. Yes, I agree. Just see my web page for that. :) Bye ____________________________________________________ / \ / Ben Wyatt - bwyatt@paston.co.uk or b.wyatt@uea.ac.uk \ \ http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html / \____________________________________________________/ (c)1995-97 Very Interesting Signatures Ltd. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 14:58:41 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26175 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA17709 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17692 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:39:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from nice.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@nice.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.148.139]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13257 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:39:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from nice by nice.csv.warwick.ac.uk with SMTP id RAA05609; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 17:38:41 GMT Sender: csuaw@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <331DAF94.2A9B@warwick.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 17:38:28 +0000 From: James Daniels Organization: Apex Designs X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.com Subject: Re: Compiling with CRAFT References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Joona I Palaste wrote: > > Hey everybody! > > I own the CRAFT extension, and have installed it on my AMOS Pro system. > My question is this: If I compile a program that uses CRAFT commands, > it works fine on my machine, but does it work on machines that don't > have CRAFT installed? Does the CRAFT code go into libraries or into > the program itself? Explanations would be appreciated. The code goes into the program itself; so you shouldn't have a problem running the compiled code on another machine. -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ /James Daniels Email: J.R.Daniels@warwick.ac.uk \ /(Apex Designs) WWW: http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~csuaw \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 14:53:19 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25016 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:53:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04648 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04645 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from cheviot.ncl.ac.uk (cheviot.ncl.ac.uk [128.240.233.51]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20931 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:04:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOWN4.ncl.ac.uk by cheviot.ncl.ac.uk id (8.7.6/ for ncl.ac.uk) with ESMTP; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:04:00 GMT Received: from TOWN4/SpoolDir by TOWN4.ncl.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 5 Mar 97 14:03:56 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by TOWN4 (Mercury 1.30); 5 Mar 97 14:03:52 GMT0BST From: "Chris Coulson" Organization: is something alien to me... To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:03:49 GMT0BST Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: > >Yeah, the AMOSPro editor is fantastic. There are a few improvements it > >needs though, such as keyword highlighting. Also, it should be possible to > > I've heard that some C editors on PC use colors for types of data in > program - different for comments, for variables, for commands, or for > loops probably. That also would be a nice thing. Yeah, the Borland editors for Pascal and C let you define your own colours for nearly everything - keywords, strings, numerical variables, inline assembler, comments... If you get the combinations right, it makes a HUGE difference when editing source. I mean, after using Borland Pascal for a while, I find editing source with HighSpeed Pascal on the Amiga is painful. Not because the HSPascal editor is bad, because it isn`t, but simply because all the source is the same colour! > > >fold up other structures such as loops. > > Sounds interesting, but I don't know how would you do it. Treat them just like procedures, look for the starting point of the loop (the for, while, repeat etc. keyword), and fold everything up to the closing keyword of the loop (until, end etc.) So: (and apologies for any syntax errors, C and 8051 asm have kept me away from AMOS for too long!) While Condition ...do the loop code here... End ...some more code might be turned into While Condition ...some more code and Repeat ...loop code... Until Condition ...rest of the code could end up as Repeat-Until Condition ...rest of the code I figure that you`d need to fold Repeat..Until like that, rather than just folding it to Repeat ...rest of code because the second example doesn`t make it at all clear when the loop will take place. Chris +- The Best of Both Worlds... |Amiga 4000/060 50MB/1.2GB/CV64 P150 32MB/1.7GB/Stealth64VRAM | | CyberSCSI/Zip/Vlab YC/4xCDROM 8xCDROM/Zip/TM PFCS+WCS2/AWE32 | http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~n0afx/ -+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 20:08:22 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23731 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:08:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13288 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13285 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from kruuna.Helsinki.FI (palaste@kruuna.helsinki.fi [128.214.180.131]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03399 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from palaste@localhost) by kruuna.Helsinki.FI (8.8.5/8.8.0) id XAA25282; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:27:56 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:27:55 +0200 (EET) From: Joona I Palaste X-Sender: palaste@kruuna.Helsinki.FI To: John Bintz cc: Stephen Lebed , Amos List Subject: Re: Amos Pro and Internet gaming In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, John Bintz wrote: > Its really easy to access a TCP/IP stack from any programming language > that lets you open a port. Just use the command: > > Open Port 1,"TCP:/ > And you can talk with any computer on the Internet. > > THe only problem is that, because I use Miami and that uses MUI and Amos > likes neither, I can only open about two ports before Amos, Miami, and > MUI come crashing down. It works fine...it just crashes a lot. If you > want some sample code to access Web documents, just ask. So if I want AMOS to access a telnet session, do I need the name or the port number? Where do I write them in the Open Out command? Is it possible to program an UNIX shell in AMOS this way? /----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Joona Palaste | | | | | palaste@cc.helsinki.fi | | | | | G++ FR FW+ M- #20 D+ ADA N+++ W++ B OP+ |------- -----------------| | |------- -----------------| | | | | | | Finland rules! => | | | | \----------------------------------------------------------------------/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 19:53:04 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19676 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 19:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19492 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19489 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:53:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from cheetah.spots.ab.ca (root@cheetah.spots.ab.ca [204.191.210.12]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA05513 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from dcousins (pm104.spots.ab.ca [204.191.210.24]) by cheetah.spots.ab.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA20737 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:53:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199703052153.OAA20737@cheetah.spots.ab.ca> From: "D. Cousins" To: Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 13:29:39 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: From: Joona I Palaste Date: March 5, 1997 6:24 AM > On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > > On 04-Mar-97, Ben Wyatt wrote: > > >fold up other structures such as loops. > > > > Sounds interesting, but I don't know how would you do it. > > Type a loop, such as: > > For I=1 to 10 > Print "Mûrkhâ bhavatha" > Next I > > and then go to the first line, press F9, and all you can see is: > > For I=1 to 10 > even though all the code is still there. How else would you fold a loop? Actually, you should have: For I=1 To 10 {Folded loop} So that when you are viewing code, you know that it's folded. Better yet, use the elipses: For I=1 To 10 {Print... Folded Loop} Dave. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 18:18:33 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10285 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 18:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA06452 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:43:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06441 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from korovev.stm.it (korovev.stm.it [194.244.30.1]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00753 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from agora.stm.it (agora.stm.it [194.20.43.1]) by korovev.stm.it (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA10921 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:43:39 +0100 (ITA) Message-Id: <199703052043.VAA10921@korovev.stm.it> From: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it (M.Berionne) Date: Mer, 05 Mar 97 21:39:02 Reply-To: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it X-Mailer: Bomb! 2.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Artist: wanted! Status: RO X-Status: Hello! I'm looking for someone who can make some gfx for my next game. I just need few frames to anim a little bob (height=21 pixels) so you won't waste too much time. I will give you further informations privately. Thank you very much. Bye M.Berionne@agora.stm.it >>Bomb!2.0<< +--------------------------ON AMINET----------------------------+ | game/think/VenusTris.lha game/misc/SnailRace.lha | | game/shoot/fantasy.lha util/time/MReminder.lha | | game/think/Atoms31.lha util/misc/Dialer2.lha | | game/think/navalbattle.lha game/think/Manos.lha | | game/shoot/in_the_target.lha dev/lang/Logo1_4.lha | | gfx/show/PhotoCDAGA_GUI.lha dev/lang/Logo1_4Eng.lha | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 05:20:45 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28317 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA13394 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13391 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA21054 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by relay-10.mail.demon.net id ab1018328; 6 Mar 97 8:41 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA005ts; Thu, 6 Mar 97 07:39:19 GMT Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 07:39:19 GMT Message-Id: <9703060739.AA005tn@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <241235a4.u8t20e.ece9d-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Nikola Smolenski ) (at Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:40:41 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: smolensk@eunet.yu Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id DAA13392 Status: RO X-Status: To the one known as Nikola, > >left-amiga key is on F12.. Testing, indending and folding, yep ! Ooops. What I meant to say, is left-amiga is on F11, right-amiga is on F12. Been so long since I used an actual amiga key :( - but then again, I can do pee-cee stuff (at gunpoint) without getting alt, control, shift, and caps-lock muddled up.. > Well, if not configurable, then at least standard :) No probs.. ;-) cyagain. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "I am Pentium of Borg. Precision is |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | futile. You will be approximated" | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 06:05:25 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07710 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:05:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA14230 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14227 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.10]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA26452 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:37:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.com.au (bne46.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.46]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA28100 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:37:47 +1000 From: Barry Benyon Reply-To: bbenyon@thehub.com.au To: Amos List Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 16:28:06 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Queensland (Aust.) Amiga Users Group Inc. Subject: Amos Pro MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: I have a 4000/40 FPU etc. Spectrum Board 26meg mem. Since day one Amos Pro has refused to work on my machine, no matter what monitor or screenmode I run it in. If anyone has a similar set up and runs Amos Pro and lets me know any tricks I will be forever in your debt. -- Name Barry Benyon Address 14 Ash Av Woodridge Queensland 4114 Australia telephone 061 7 3290 1521 Email bbenyon@thehub.com.au From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 19:27:53 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21185 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 19:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19929 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19918 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:55:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.thenet.co.uk (fornax.thenet.co.uk [207.0.150.200]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29614 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from thenet.co.uk by mailhost.thenet.co.uk (8.7/FCI Sendmail Config v1.0) id VAA13432; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:48:15 GMT From: neil Bramwell To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 21:38:59 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.1 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Amos and TOME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id QAA19923 Status: RO X-Status: Hi Everyone Only joined today(06/03/97) and already have a burning question I would like to know if Aaron Fothergill of Shadow Software ever produced an AmosPro compatible version of TOME? If so where and how could I get hold of a copy? thanks Neil From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 02:45:28 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17735 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 02:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA06409 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA06406 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12525 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:49:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P2.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.2]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA07199 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:49:03 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:40:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2411447b.u8t20e.9d36f-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 05-Mar-97, Keith Hill wrote: >> Not just that, IMHO that isn't important, but automatic spell-checking, >> testing, indenting and procedure folding are MUST! And, of course on-line >> help. BTW, it must not be as 'user - friendly' as QBasic on PeeZee - it >> wouldn't let you go off line untill you have write it correctly. And yes, >> it should (to the contrary of Amos editor) have standard key shortcut >> wherever possible (specially for cut/copy/paste). >Spooll chockign ?? Why ? The cut and paste should be configgable. My Well, simply because it's much easier to test your prog thatway then to run compiler for five minutes to tell you some nebulosis about your code. >left-amiga key is on F12.. Testing, indending and folding, yep ! Well, if not configurable, then at least standard :) -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 03:42:52 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24924 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA06414 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA06411 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08348 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P2.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.2]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA07206 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:49:10 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:44:54 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id BAA06412 Status: RO X-Status: On 05-Mar-97, Joona I Palaste wrote: >> >fold up other structures such as loops. >> >> Sounds interesting, but I don't know how would you do it. >Type a loop, such as: >For I=1 to 10 > Print "Mûrkhâ bhavatha" >Next I >and then go to the first line, press F9, and all you can see is: To the any line between first and last, including them, and press configurable key. >For I=1 to 10 >even though all the code is still there. How else would you fold a loop? It's fine, except that there is no way to find out is that loop folded or it is normal loop. It should at least be in different colour. >| Finland rules! => | | | | Yeah, I guess :) -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 03:57:44 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21369 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA06420 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA06416 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08357 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P2.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.2]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA07208 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:49:13 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:51:50 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199703051132.GAA08598@mail2.access.digex.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 05-Mar-97, Maarten D. de Jong wrote: >> >> I have been thinking about why amos is so popular, and I think it is >mostly >> >> because it have such good editor. I can only dreaming about working in C >> >with >> >> such editor :( So, I think that your lang sould have very very similar >> >editor, >> >> or better. >The only thing which makes this piece of software ticking is its IDE. A What is IDE? >stand-alone AMOS editor would not hold a candle to the light of GoldED >or Amis. Or the other editors available for the Amiga. (Even sed, the Well, I agree, Amos editor realy have some stupidities in it's basics. GoldED is fine, but eats memory like hell! AFAIK, it has at least some sort of spell-checking, and indenting, and folding, but... I didn't succeed even to try all that. >SAS/C-editor). But, for sed, I wouldn't agree... ;)) >> >..hey... emacs is the best editor available.. but then again, the >> >completely integrated amos environment is really quite good. >> >> Emacs? Could it fold procedures or indent the code? >I think he is talking about the _complete_ Emacs, not the C=-version. The >real Emacs can do all this and more. Oh, well, OK then. >But discussing editors is practically a forbidden subject -- let everyone >decide for him or herself which editor suits best. Why not? After trying MeMacs, I wouldn't even look at Emacs without bag of DEMs, or without his advice :) -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 08:09:58 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17168 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 08:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA29475 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 04:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29472 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 04:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23017 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 04:01:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P6.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.6]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA00647 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:01:40 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:52:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 04-Mar-97, Ben Wyatt wrote: >> >Rough details for an AMOS type language are on my web page at: >> >http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html >> >It's aiming to be as easy to use as AMOS, but with more powerful features, >> >such as OOP and dynamic objects, and encourages better and neater code. >> I have been thinking about why amos is so popular, and I think it is mostly >> because it have such good editor. I can only dreaming about working in C >with >> such editor :( >Yes, I totally agree. Especially the method for folding and unfolding >functions - it makes source management much easier and often eliminates the >need for multiple sources. Indenting and spell checking aren't of lesser importance. >> So, I think that your lang sould have very very similar editor, or better. >Yeah, the AMOSPro editor is fantastic. There are a few improvements it >needs though, such as keyword highlighting. Also, it should be possible to I've heard that some C editors on PC use colors for types of data in program - different for comments, for variables, for commands, or for loops probably. That also would be a nice thing. >fold up other structures such as loops. Sounds interesting, but I don't know how would you do it. Also, it would be nice for it to have some kind of procedures in procedures. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 5 09:39:30 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24749 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA29480 for amos-out; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 04:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29477 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 04:01:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA08510 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 04:01:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P6.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.6]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA00649 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:01:45 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:52:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <331BCC44.4F83@foreigner.class.udg.mx> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id EAA29478 Status: RO X-Status: On 04-Mar-97, Manuel Tonatiuh Moreno wrote: >> >Rough details for an AMOS type language are on my web page at: >> >> >http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html >> >> >It's aiming to be as easy to use as AMOS, but with more powerful features, >> >such as OOP and dynamic objects, and encourages better and neater code. >> >> I have been thinking about why amos is so popular, and I think it is mostly >> because it have such good editor. I can only dreaming about working in C >with >> such editor :( So, I think that your lang sould have very very similar >editor, >> or better. >I agree with that. I tried to work with blitz and I couldnīt just >because of the hostile enviroment. The front-end, the user interface, >should have a friendly look and versatile work-frame. Not just that, IMHO that isn't important, but automatic spell-checking, testing, indenting and procedure folding are MUST! And, of course on-line help. BTW, it must not be as 'user - friendly' as QBasic on PeeZee - it wouldn't let you go off line untill you have write it correctly. And yes, it should (to the contrary of Amos editor) have standard key shortcut wherever possible (specially for cut/copy/paste). -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 09:10:03 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04779 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:10:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA17477 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17474 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:04:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29419 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:04:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from xs4all.nl (collin@drt01-00.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.1]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id MAA25470 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:04:01 +0100 (MET) From: Branko Collin To: Amos Discussion List Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 02:14:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 05-maa-97 Ben Wyatt wrote: >On 09-Jan-07, Nikola Smolenski sat on a keyboard and produced this mess: >> >fold up other structures such as loops. >> Sounds interesting, but I don't know how would you do it. >You'd press F9 or whatever, and it scans to see if you're in a loop. >If not, it checks if you're in a procedure. Or have a separate key >for it. In the language you propose it would just scan for the next 'end' statement, then scan back for the accompagnying 'def'. ----- Branko Collin http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin collin@xs4all.nl http://www.kun.nl/undans/members/branko.htm "Erm... Erm... should I say something interesting now?" - Branko Collin - From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 13:12:03 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29817 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25520 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25517 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27280 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by relay-10.mail.demon.net id ab1019942; 6 Mar 97 15:13 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA005u7; Thu, 6 Mar 97 08:57:27 GMT Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 08:57:27 GMT Message-Id: <9703060857.AA005u2@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <241247f5.u8t20e.7e88a-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: (from Nikola Smolenski ) (at Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:51:50 +0100) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: smolensk@eunet.yu Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id KAA25518 Status: RO X-Status: To the one known as Nikola, > >> >..hey... emacs is the best editor available.. but then again, the > >> >completely integrated amos environment is really quite good. > >> Emacs? Could it fold procedures or indent the code? > >I think he is talking about the _complete_ Emacs, not the C=-version. The > >real Emacs can do all this and more. > Oh, well, OK then. (I was.. :) > >But discussing editors is practically a forbidden subject -- let everyone > >decide for him or herself which editor suits best. Absolutely. > Why not? After trying MeMacs, I wouldn't even look at Emacs without bag of > DEMs, or without his advice :) Argh !! I've been using emacs for ..yeikes, must be a decade or so. Memacs is ok, small and fast for normal workload, like email. The full version slams everything in the power stakes though. Hang on, maybe I should be on alt.religion.emacs - then again, maybe not. Oh yeah, amos something. Re-define all the amos keys to look like emacs... ;-) (just kidding.) Did you know you can surf the net without leaving emacs ?? ..enuf already.. Completely Useless facts: PID USERNAME PRI NICE STATE TIME CPU NAME 374 - -93 0 ready 9:31 67.93% AMOS 212 - 10 0 wait 1:09 8.63% RAM 245 - -65 0 wait 5:39 5.82% Top 240 - -64 0 wait 1:36 4.17% ALoad_MUI 216 - 20 0 wait 3:49 2.62% input.device 11 - -50 0 wait 0:07 1.27% [memacs2] 231 - 5 0 wait 0:00 0.38% MMBCommodity 2 - 5 0 wait 0:22 0.30% [AmiTCP] 5 - 126 0 wait 0:14 0.23% [Executive] 392 - 5 0 wait 0:02 0.19% CON cyagain. _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | "Excuse me, but how can a karaoke |_> | \ | | | \| |_ |_ |_| \_ . | machine kill me grandad ?" | --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 11:32:06 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02971 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA17049 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA17046 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from f10.hotmail.com (F10.hotmail.com [207.82.250.21]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07198 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by f10.hotmail.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA27790; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 02:42:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 02:42:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703061042.CAA27790@f10.hotmail.com> Received: from 193.214.146.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Mar 1997 02:42:25 PST X-Originating-IP: [193.214.146.22] From: " Ragnar Fyri" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Transition effects part 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="====================987654321_0==_" X-Attachment: Fx1_2.txt Status: RO X-Status: --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain; name="Fx1_2.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Fx1_2.txt" After all those questions in my first letter I'd better contribute some- thing for a change. :-) While looking through some dusty old corner of my hard disk I found a handful of small programs I made while working on the slide show I mentioned last time. The group leader and I had a quite lively discussion about what kind of transitions we would use between pictures, and I got inspired and made up a handful of effects. The first of them fol- low here, more will follow later. At one point our esteemed leader wanted pictures to change with a white flash, and I wrote this.... Dim F(31) : Hide On 1 Unpack 6 To 0 : Auto View Off Unpack 7 To 1 : Screen Hide 1 Screen Open 2,320,10,64,0 : Flash Off : Get Palette 1 : Screen Hide 2 Screen Open 3,320,10,64,0 : For A=0 To 31 : Colour A,$FFF : Next Screen Hide 3 : Auto View On Screen 1 : For A=0 To 31 : F(A)=Colour(A) : Colour(A),$FFF : Next Screen 0 : Wait Key Fade 2 To 3 : Wait 2*15 Screen Show 1 : Screen Hide 0 Screen 1 : Fade 2 To 2 : Wait 150 If Upper$(Inkey$)<>"Q" Then Goto 1 Default : Edit [For perfectionists who like to keep the original filenames: This one was called FlashOverTest.AMOS] Our leader didn't think the "flash" was fast enough, so I wrote something a bit more complicated (but faster): Dim F(31) : Hide On : OPP=True : Dim FARGER(31,2,1) Global FARGER(),LAG 1 Unpack 6 To 0 : Auto View Off : FINNFARGER[0] Unpack 7 To 1 : Screen Hide 1 : FINNFARGER[1] Screen Open 2,320,10,64,0 : Flash Off : Get Palette 1 : Screen Hide 2 Screen Open 3,320,10,64,0 : For A=0 To 31 : Colour A,$FFF : Next Screen Hide 3 : Auto View On Screen 1 : For A=0 To 31 : Colour(A),$FFF : Next Screen 0 : Wait Key : FAD[OPP] Screen Show 1 : Screen Hide 0 Screen 1 : FAD[NED] : Wait 150 If Upper$(Inkey$)<>"Q" Then Goto 1 Default : Edit ' Procedure FINNFARGER[LAG] Screen LAG : ANTFAR=Screen Colour If ANTFAR>32 Default : Locate ,12 : Curs Off Centre "Skjerm"+Str$(LAG)+" er for dyp -"+Str$(ANTFAR)+" farger!" End End If For A=0 To ANTFAR-1 FARGER(A,0,LAG)=Colour(A) 'A bit of calculation... FARGER(A,2,LAG)=$FFF FARGER(A,1,LAG)=($FFF+Colour(A))/2 Next End Proc Procedure FAD[OPP] ANTFAR=Screen Colour If OPP Then _START=0 Else _START=2 _SLUTT=2-_START : _STEG=Sgn(_SLUTT-_START) For A=_START To _SLUTT Step _STEG For B=0 To ANTFAR-1 : Colour B,FARGER(B,A,Screen) Next : Wait 2 : Wait Vbl Next End Proc [This one was called FlashOverFaster.AMOS] (The strange variable names are Norwegian, and a translation of some of them may make things a bit clearer: OPP up FARGER colo(u)rs LAG layer FINNFARGER find colo(u)rs NED down ANTFAR (short for "antall farger") number of colo(u)rs START start(!) SLUTT end STEG step Both programs require two pictures (preferably non-HAM) packed into two banks, or just change the opening lines to load the pics every time. The pictures can be any size and resolution, even different from each other. The programs that follow later do fancy transitions by copying from screen to screen, so to prepare for them you should find or make two pictures of equal size and resolution and preferably with the same palette as well. From one thing to another, I only get a limited time with the library's PC each day, and I've got mailing list files from the middle of last month I haven't looked at yet, so I'm unsubscribing for a while to try to catch up. I'll get the archive from Aminet (there's still someone putting those things together each month, isn't it?) at the end of the month to see if I missed anything; in the meantime make sure comments to me and other things you think I may be interested in, is sent to me personally and not (just) the list. Thanks. *** This tagline is umop apisdn *** --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain --====================987654321_0==_-- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 10:15:03 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11227 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA17786 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17783 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:13:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from boco.fee.vutbr.cz (boco.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.9.11]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07881 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 06:13:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.fee.vutbr.cz (gate.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.64.10]) by boco.fee.vutbr.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00820 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:13:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from Mercury at FEI/KPVE VUT Brno (kpve.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.82.20]) by gate.fee.vutbr.cz (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA10184 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:13:48 +0100 Received: from KPVE/SpoolDir by Mercury at FEI/KPVE VUT Brno (Mercury 1.21); 6 Mar 97 12:15:32 MET-1MEST Received: from SpoolDir by KPVE (Mercury 1.30); 6 Mar 97 12:14:39 MET-1MEST From: "Uttendorfsky Petr" Organization: KPVE FEE VUT BRNO To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:14:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: AnimPlayer Reply-to: xutten00@kpve.fee.vutbr.cz Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52CZ) Message-ID: <8FD9DA7735@kpve.fee.vutbr.cz> Status: RO X-Status: Hi all! I am new on this confference and I have this problem: I need play a big animation using AMOS (larger than RAM memory). Does anybody know, how to write an anim player, which can play animation (I mean IFF ANIM5) directly from HDD, and I only set some buffer in memory ? Thanx for any response Ute From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 08:45:06 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17292 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA16781 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16778 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.10]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA24599 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.com.au (bne46.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.46]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA29660 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 20:28:03 +1000 From: Barry Benyon Reply-To: bbenyon@thehub.com.au To: Amos List Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 16:28:06 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Queensland (Aust.) Amiga Users Group Inc. Subject: Amos Pro MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: I have a 4000/40 FPU etc. Spectrum Board 26meg mem. Since day one Amos Pro has refused to work on my machine, no matter what monitor or screenmode I run it in. If anyone has a similar set up and runs Amos Pro and lets me know any tricks I will be forever in your debt. -- Name Barry Benyon Address 14 Ash Av Woodridge Queensland 4114 Australia telephone 061 7 3290 1521 Email bbenyon@thehub.com.au From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 11:53:16 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04956 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18719 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:19:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18716 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA00511 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:19:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from l15.redrose.net ([205.246.83.75]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0925801; 6 Mar 97 12:37 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 07:39:22 -0500 To: bbenyon@thehub.com.au From: Mush Subject: Re: Amos Pro Cc: Amos List Message-ID: <857651842.0925801.0@l15.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: At 04:28 PM 06-03-97 +0500, Barry Benyon wrote: >I have a 4000/40 FPU etc. Spectrum Board 26meg mem. > >Since day one Amos Pro has refused to work on my machine, no matter what >monitor or screenmode I run it in. If anyone has a similar set up and runs >Amos Pro and lets me know any tricks I will be forever in your debt. > Have you recently added, or removed anything from your APSystem drawers? I often found AMOS would quit out before it finished loading because of this. If it just decided to happen on its own, maybe something else you removed is effecting it in some way. It shouldn`t be the monitor mode which you use, as AMOSPro will run on a system set for a VGA monitor, only the display is very distorted. Good look in finding the problem. Andy Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Supplier Editor of Extreme AMOS - the BEST AMOS disk magazine around!! Issue 4 being released soon - click the "Extreme AMOS" button on the new homepages!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 11:56:35 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01275 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:56:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19708 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19705 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from matrix.multiboard.com (root@matrix.multiboard.com [204.191.68.100]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03916 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:00:02 -0500 (EST) From: chrisevans@cubic.xg.com Received: from cubic.xg.com (multib@localhost) by matrix.multiboard.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id JAA25997 for amos-list@access.digex.net; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:04:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: matrix.multiboard.com: multib set sender to cubic.xg.com!chrisevans using -f Received: by bbs.multiboard.com (IG 1.0+ sn 1) via UUCP id A0490; 06 Mar 1997 08:45:10 EST5 Date: 06 Mar 97 08:28:00 EST5 Subject: Amos and TOME To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <085763791000210490@bbs.multiboard.com> Organization: Cubic BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario +15196336357 Status: RO X-Status: > From: neil Bramwell > I would like to know if Aaron Fothergill of Shadow Software > ever produced an AmosPro compatible version of TOME? > If so where and how could I get hold of a copy? Neil, the Aussie guys were saying there is a version available down under, but why use Tome when you can use Turbo Plus? -Chris. -------------------------------- Work: CEvans@bbs.multiboard.com Play: ChrisEvans@cubic.xg.com -------------------------------- /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ | The views of the author are not of the originating system | \_______________________________________________________________/ Email: chrisevans@cubic.xg.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 08:10:04 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15504 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:10:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA13439 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13436 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21904 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:13:02 +0000 Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 6 Mar 97 09:16:15 GMT+0 Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.21); 6 Mar 97 09:15:53 GMT+0 From: "Lee." Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:14:36 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Lprint Chr$(0) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <17E301A6245@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Status: RO X-Status: > > > When I want them all to be turned off, I am supposed to send a > > > Chr$(0) to the Printerport: > > > > > > LPrint Chr$(0) Blah blah.. > > >OPEN OUT channel, "PAR:" (usually for seq. data files but should work > >with PAR: as well) > > PRINT# channel, chr$(0) > > ... > > This should work, and if Amos is the least bit system friendly, LPrint Chr$(0) > shouldn't work. This has no chance for controling relays which the original mail was about! It will just hang up the system waiting for the relay board to send back an acknowledge signal. The only thing you could do then is reboot :-( The PAR: device requires handshaking between the Amiga and external device. For controlling relays and the like always hit the hardware! ____________________________________ Lee Atkins. L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK ____________________________________ During the 2nd decade of the 21st century, the Sun will have the highest gravitational pull on the Earth. This has only happened once before! Around the time the dinosaurs died out! ____________________________________ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 17:12:09 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25092 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:12:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04418 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:10:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04415 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.paston.co.uk (red.paston.co.uk [194.129.188.3]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13015 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from paston.co.uk ([194.129.188.201]) by red.paston.co.uk with SMTP id <843915-11403> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:09:03 -0000 From: Ben Wyatt To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 16:08:00 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Status: RO X-Status: On 05-Mar-97, Marcel Toele sat on a keyboard and produced this mess: > May I make a comment on this, > Yes, I do too think the Amos-Editor is great, but I can only be opened on a > PAL screen. > So keep the editor the same (or better) but make it have an Screenmode > requestor of some sort... > besides, AGA-support and Intuition support should be standard, but you already > planned that, of course... :) One aim of the language is to operating system independant. All these features would be included, but under more general titles. I don't even know if I'll do it for the Amiga - I'm waiting to see what the computers just around the corner are like. Bye ____________________________________________________ / \ / Ben Wyatt - bwyatt@paston.co.uk or b.wyatt@uea.ac.uk \ \ http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html / \____________________________________________________/ (c)1995-97 Very Interesting Signatures Ltd. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 18:41:57 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03222 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:41:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05555 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:44:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05552 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from korovev.stm.it (korovev.stm.it [194.244.30.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12284 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from agora.stm.it (agora.stm.it [194.20.43.1]) by korovev.stm.it (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA12132 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:44:25 +0100 (ITA) Message-Id: <199703061844.TAA12132@korovev.stm.it> From: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it (M.Berionne) Date: Gio, 06 Mar 97 19:39:26 Reply-To: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it X-Mailer: Bomb! 2.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re:Extensions part II Status: RO X-Status: Hello! > I would like to know what the following extensions are about, since > - CRAFT > - MusiCraft Craft and MusicCraft are sold together and are made by Black Legend. They are sold as just one extension, even if they are actually two. Commands in craft are: C - Colour commands and banks for palettes. R - Requesters. Can produce also gurus. A - Audio. That's MusiCraft and provides commands to play Protracker songs. F - Fractal. Mandelbrot and Julia sets. T - Turtle. Logo commands to maove a "turtle" on the screen. As you can see on the lest: that's CRAFT. Bye M.Berionne@agora.stm.it >>Bomb!2.0<< +--------------------------ON AMINET----------------------------+ | game/think/VenusTris.lha game/misc/SnailRace.lha | | game/shoot/fantasy.lha util/time/MReminder.lha | | game/think/Atoms31.lha util/misc/Dialer2.lha | | game/think/navalbattle.lha game/think/Manos.lha | | game/shoot/in_the_target.lha dev/lang/Logo1_4.lha | | gfx/show/PhotoCDAGA_GUI.lha dev/lang/Logo1_4Eng.lha | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 15:45:50 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16645 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05575 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05572 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from korovev.stm.it (korovev.stm.it [194.244.30.1]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16622 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from agora.stm.it (agora.stm.it [194.20.43.1]) by korovev.stm.it (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA12195 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:45:19 +0100 (ITA) Message-Id: <199703061845.TAA12195@korovev.stm.it> From: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it (M.Berionne) Date: Gio, 06 Mar 97 19:40:04 Reply-To: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it X-Mailer: Bomb! 2.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future Status: RO X-Status: Hi! NS> Also, it would be nice for it to have some kind of procedures in NS> procedures. One thing Amos procedures miss is: X=MY_PROCEDURE That would be much better than the Param command. Moreover, Amos procedure cannot return more than a single Param value and this is a large limit. Bye M.Berionne@agora.stm.it >>Bomb!2.0<< +--------------------------ON AMINET----------------------------+ | game/think/VenusTris.lha game/misc/SnailRace.lha | | game/shoot/fantasy.lha util/time/MReminder.lha | | game/think/Atoms31.lha util/misc/Dialer2.lha | | game/think/navalbattle.lha game/think/Manos.lha | | game/shoot/in_the_target.lha dev/lang/Logo1_4.lha | | gfx/show/PhotoCDAGA_GUI.lha dev/lang/Logo1_4Eng.lha | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 18:41:03 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09991 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:40:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05595 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05592 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from korovev.stm.it (korovev.stm.it [194.244.30.1]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16711 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from agora.stm.it (agora.stm.it [194.20.43.1]) by korovev.stm.it (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA12204 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:45:44 +0100 (ITA) Message-Id: <199703061845.TAA12204@korovev.stm.it> From: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it (M.Berionne) Date: Gio, 06 Mar 97 19:40:50 Reply-To: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it X-Mailer: Bomb! 2.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re:Compiling with CRAFT Status: RO X-Status: Hi! > My question is this: If I compile a program that uses CRAFT commands, > it works fine on my machine, but does it work on machines that don't > have CRAFT installed? Does the CRAFT code go into libraries or into > the program itself? Explanations would be appreciated. Of course, your program will run on every other machine, but you MUST compile it. The compiler copies all the used commands (and just the used commands) to the executable binary file making it independent. Bye M.Berionne@agora.stm.it >>Bomb!2.0<< +--------------------------ON AMINET----------------------------+ | game/think/VenusTris.lha game/misc/SnailRace.lha | | game/shoot/fantasy.lha util/time/MReminder.lha | | game/think/Atoms31.lha util/misc/Dialer2.lha | | game/think/navalbattle.lha game/think/Manos.lha | | game/shoot/in_the_target.lha dev/lang/Logo1_4.lha | | gfx/show/PhotoCDAGA_GUI.lha dev/lang/Logo1_4Eng.lha | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 21:06:54 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19533 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA25931 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25928 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03291 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from l15.redrose.net ([205.246.83.75]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0515442; 6 Mar 97 21:14 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 16:16:19 -0500 To: Mush From: Mush Subject: New AMOS Homepages Message-ID: <857682859.0515442.0@l15.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: At the time of writing this email, I will be starting the last piece of HTML before uploading my new AMOS homepages. I estimate to have them up on the pages at 5pm (10Pm UK time) so I would appreciate people giving me their opinions and views for improvement. I have included the links I was sent. I lost a lot of my email directorys when my fiancee`s PC was attacked by a virus. If your link isnt on the page, then please re-submit it to me for immediate inclusion. Thank-you for your time. Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Supplier Editor of Extreme AMOS - the BEST AMOS disk magazine around!! Issue 4 being released soon - click the "Extreme AMOS" button on the new homepages!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 23:21:28 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26764 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA29710 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29707 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA22628 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from l10.redrose.net ([205.246.83.70]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0924253; 7 Mar 97 3:01 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 22:03:01 -0500 To: Ragnar Fyri From: Mush Subject: Re: Transition effects part 1 Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <857703661.0924253.0@l10.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: At 02:42 AM 06-03-97 -0800, Ragnar Fyri wrote some babble along the lines of: > >--====================987654321_0==_ >Content-Type: text/plain > > > >--------------------------------------------------------- >Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >--------------------------------------------------------- > >--====================987654321_0==_ >Content-Type: text/plain; name="Fx1_2.txt" >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Fx1_2.txt" > > After all those questions in my first letter I'd better contribute some- >thing for a change. :-) While looking through some dusty old corner of my >hard disk I found a handful of small programs I made while working on the >slide show I mentioned last time. The group leader and I had a quite lively >discussion about what kind of transitions we would use between pictures, >and I got inspired and made up a handful of effects. The first of them fol- >low here, more will follow later. > Im looking for tutorials to upload to my AMOS pages. Do you have full docs and things to these routines, as they would be a great routine set to have on the page. Andy Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Supplier Editor of Extreme AMOS - the BEST AMOS disk magazine around!! Issue 4 being released soon - click the "Extreme AMOS" button on the new homepages!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 7 01:45:33 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04356 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA03183 for amos-out; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA03180 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA03725 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from l10.redrose.net ([205.246.83.70]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0924788; 7 Mar 97 3:03 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 22:05:16 -0500 To: Mush From: Mush Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future Message-ID: <857703796.0924788.0@l10.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: I would hope that this new language would come with a half-way decent compiler, one which doesnt use about 60K odd before even getting to the commands. Andrew Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Supplier Editor of Extreme AMOS - the BEST AMOS disk magazine around!! Issue 4 being released soon - click the "Extreme AMOS" button on the new homepages!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 7 06:02:17 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06825 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA06562 for amos-out; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 03:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06559 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 03:32:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from cafu.fl.net.au (root@cafu.fl.net.au [203.22.184.10]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08014 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 03:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (darryl@localhost) by cafu.fl.net.au (2.0/fl) with SMTP id TAA04777; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:31:48 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:31:48 +1100 (EST) From: Darryl Lewis To: chrisevans@cubic.xg.com cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Amos and TOME In-Reply-To: <085763791000210490@bbs.multiboard.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On 6 Mar 1997 chrisevans@cubic.xg.com wrote: > > Neil, the Aussie guys were saying there is a version available down under, but > why use Tome when you can use Turbo Plus? > -Chris. Turbo Plus screws up the stack in LARGE programs. Darryl Australia IMAGINE INFO #####\ _ /##### AMOS INFO Amiga 2000 #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# AmosPro + Compiler Amiga 3000T ##### | /_ / | ##### APME (Get it!) 486DX2-66 #" "# | ___m/I_ //_____ | #" "# Turbo extension Imagine 3.0 # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # 3D extension Intermediate #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# BBS extension #####/ ######/ \###### \##### Profession- Disk Jockey/System Administrator http://www.dragonfire.net/~daz/home.htm From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 19:24:41 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05931 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11577 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11574 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20947 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:12:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P21.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.21]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA22864 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:12:26 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:51:51 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <331DAF94.2A9B@warwick.ac.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Compiling with CRAFT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 05-Mar-97, James Daniels wrote: >> I own the CRAFT extension, and have installed it on my AMOS Pro system. >> My question is this: If I compile a program that uses CRAFT commands, >> it works fine on my machine, but does it work on machines that don't >> have CRAFT installed? Does the CRAFT code go into libraries or into >> the program itself? Explanations would be appreciated. >The code goes into the program itself; so you shouldn't have a problem >running the compiled code on another machine. Except if it uses some externeal libraries, which you should check in documentation, or with SnoopDos. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 6 18:09:13 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00814 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:09:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11587 for amos-out; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11584 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:14:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21165 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:14:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P3.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.3]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA22979 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:14:28 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:54:24 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Command Line$ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Well, I have to ask, is there on Aminet set of procedures that does same like C's argc, argv[] arguments, I mean, procedures which use Command Line$ as an argument, and then first would return number of argument, and second [n] would return argument n. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 7 12:54:42 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14976 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16597 for amos-out; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16594 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.paston.co.uk (red.paston.co.uk [194.129.188.3]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26593 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from paston.co.uk ([194.129.188.201]) by red.paston.co.uk with SMTP id <843586-146>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:38:11 -0000 From: Ben Wyatt To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 14:36:29 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <857703796.0924788.0@l10.redrose.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS type language for the future MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 07-Mar-97, Mush sat on a keyboard and produced this mess: > I would hope that this new language would come with a half-way decent > compiler, one which doesnt use about 60K odd before even getting to the > commands. If it does, I wouldn't care (well, not too much). I think it's more important that the language is easy and fun to use. Obviously though, I would have some sort of optimising option. Bye ____________________________________________________ / \ / Ben Wyatt - bwyatt@paston.co.uk or b.wyatt@uea.ac.uk \ \ http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html / \____________________________________________________/ (c)1995-97 Very Interesting Signatures Ltd. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 7 18:33:52 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14132 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 18:33:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA27918 for amos-out; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27912 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:09:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from matrix.multiboard.com (root@matrix.multiboard.com [204.191.68.100]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17551 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:09:54 -0500 (EST) From: chrisevans@cubic.xg.com Received: from cubic.xg.com (multib@localhost) by matrix.multiboard.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id NAA06343 for amos-list@access.digex.net; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:09:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: matrix.multiboard.com: multib set sender to cubic.xg.com!chrisevans using -f Received: by bbs.multiboard.com (IG 1.0+ sn 1) via UUCP id A273A; 07 Mar 1997 13:05:09 EST5 Date: 07 Mar 97 12:35:00 EST5 Subject: animPlayer To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <08577399090021273a@bbs.multiboard.com> Organization: Cubic BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario +15196336357 Status: RO X-Status: > From: "Uttendorfsky Petr" > I need play a big animation using AMOS (larger than RAM > memory). > Does anybody know, how to write an anim player, which can play > animation (I mean IFF ANIM5) directly from HDD, and I only set > some buffer in memory ? AMOS will run an animation created in DPaint. -Chris. -------------------------------- Work: CEvans@bbs.multiboard.com Play: ChrisEvans@cubic.xg.com -------------------------------- /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ | The views of the author are not of the originating system | \_______________________________________________________________/ Email: chrisevans@cubic.xg.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 7 19:03:59 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15551 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA27915 for amos-out; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27909 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:09:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from matrix.multiboard.com (root@matrix.multiboard.com [204.191.68.100]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17545 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:09:54 -0500 (EST) From: chrisevans@cubic.xg.com Received: from cubic.xg.com (multib@localhost) by matrix.multiboard.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id NAA06344 for amos-list@access.digex.net; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:09:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: matrix.multiboard.com: multib set sender to cubic.xg.com!chrisevans using -f Received: by bbs.multiboard.com (IG 1.0+ sn 1) via UUCP id A273B; 07 Mar 1997 13:05:09 EST5 Date: 07 Mar 97 12:40:00 EST5 Subject: Black Legend dead To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <08577399090021273b@bbs.multiboard.com> Organization: Cubic BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario +15196336357 Status: RO X-Status: > From: M.Berionne@agora.stm.it (M.Berionne) > Craft and MusicCraft are sold together and are made by Black > Legend. I got e-mail from the guy who is collecting Black Legend's mail, and he says the company is dead, and he doesn't think they have assigned the rights to their stuff to anyone else. -Chris. /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ | The views of the author are not of the originating system | \_______________________________________________________________/ Email: chrisevans@cubic.xg.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 7 19:07:15 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15900 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA14195 for amos-out; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:52:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14192 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from kruuna.Helsinki.FI (palaste@kruuna.helsinki.fi [128.214.180.131]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01288 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from palaste@localhost) by kruuna.Helsinki.FI (8.8.5/8.8.0) id WAA12076; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 22:52:15 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 22:52:14 +0200 (EET) From: Joona I Palaste X-Sender: palaste@kruuna.Helsinki.FI To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Sound effects with music modules Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Hello. I am writing a game where I want to use music and sound effects together, and have found it difficult to get the sound effects to play properly. The game can play PT, MED or AMOS music bank modules. However, if I use a Bell or a Shoot command during a module, I get weird result. On each of the three types, the sound effect causes the module to stop for a second or so. PT modules also suffer from slight disfigurations during that second. MED modules make the sound effects sound absolutely horrible! How can I make sound effects that don't play havoc with the music? I obviously can't use the Bell and Shoot commands, so does anyone have a replacement? Example code is required. /----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Joona Palaste | | | | | palaste@cc.helsinki.fi | | | | | G++ FR FW+ M- #20 D+ ADA N+++ W++ B OP+ |------- -----------------| | |------- -----------------| | | | | | | Finland rules! => | | | | \----------------------------------------------------------------------/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 7 21:12:26 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17810 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 21:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26592 for amos-out; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26589 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tornado.netspace.net.au (koda@netspace.net.au [203.10.110.110]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15479 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from koda@localhost) by tornado.netspace.net.au (8.8.5/8.7.1) id KAA02858 for amos-list@access.digex.net; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 10:00:41 +1000 (EST) From: Michael Zafiropoulos Message-Id: <199703080000.KAA02858@tornado.netspace.net.au> Subject: InactiveList? To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 10:00:41 +1000 (EST) Content-Type: text Status: RO X-Status: anyone know the correct syntax for interface language inactivelist command? I have followed the manual but just keep getting an error message. thanks in advance -- // ---koda.netspace.net.au--- \X/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 7 14:09:39 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21844 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22976 for amos-out; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22966 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.thenet.co.uk (root@fornax.thenet.co.uk [207.0.150.200]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05317 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from thenet.co.uk by mailhost.thenet.co.uk (8.8.5/FCI Sendmail Config v1.0) id QAA22874; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:34:34 GMT From: neil Bramwell To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 16:32:03 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <085763791000210490@bbs.multiboard.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.1 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Amos and TOME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id LAA22970 Status: RO X-Status: On 07-Mar-97, chrisevans@cubic.xg.com wrote: >> From: neil Bramwell >> I would like to know if Aaron Fothergill of Shadow Software >> ever produced an AmosPro compatible version of TOME? >> If so where and how could I get hold of a copy? >Neil, the Aussie guys were saying there is a version available down under, but >why use Tome when you can use Turbo Plus? >-Chris. >-------------------------------- >Work: CEvans@bbs.multiboard.com >Play: ChrisEvans@cubic.xg.com >-------------------------------- > /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ >| The views of the author are not of the originating system | > \_______________________________________________________________/ > Email: chrisevans@cubic.xg.com Chris, I have seen the demo of Turbo Plus on Aminet, but where can I obtain a copy? the phone numbers on the demo are no longer in service thanks again Neil. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 8 08:35:53 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03133 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA22645 for amos-out; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 07:13:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22642 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 07:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA26103 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 07:13:27 -0500 (EST) Path: news2.digex.net!news.intercon.com!news.iac.net!odin.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!echoes.wittenberg.edu!stdio!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!msunews!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!inferno.mpx.com.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!news.une.edu.au!neumann.une.edu.au!fcolvin From: fcolvin@neumann.une.edu.au (Fionn Colvin) Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.games Subject: FORSALE: AMOS, AMOS Pro and Shoot'em-up C Kit. Followup-To: poster Date: 4 Mar 1997 01:53:40 GMT Organization: University of New England, NSW, Australia Lines: 14 Distribution: au Message-ID: <5ffvb4$15j$1@gruvel.une.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: neumann.une.edu.au Xref: news2.digex.net aus.computers.amiga:13309 comp.sys.amiga.marketplace:94315 comp.sys.amiga.programmer:110631 comp.sys.amiga.games:123667 ReSent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 07:13:24 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: Forsale: (1) AMOS Professional, as new in box with all manuals. (2) AMOS Creator, as new in box with all manuals. (3) Shoot'em-up Construction Kit, as new in box with all manuals. email-me with offers. e-mail: fcolvin@neumann.une.edu.au From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 8 12:16:13 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26889 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 12:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27391 for amos-out; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 10:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27388 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 10:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA09030 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 10:09:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.168.244] by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.58 #10) id 0w3Ngq-0004Jc-00; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 15:05:40 +0000 Received: from PMN1/MERCURYQ by pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 8 Mar 97 15:05:48 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURYQ by PMN1 (Mercury 1.21); 8 Mar 97 15:05:38 GMT0BST From: "--==MURRAY==--" Organization: Maths, The University of Nottingham To: Joona I Palaste , amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 15:05:35 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Sound effects with music modules X-Confirm-Reading-To: "--==MURRAY==--" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: <104F97CF214F@pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk> Status: RO X-Status: Joona wrote... > I am writing a game where I want to use music and sound effects > together, and have found it difficult to get the sound effects to > play properly. The game can play PT, MED or AMOS music bank modules. > However, if I use a Bell or a Shoot command during a module, I get > weird result. On each of the three types, the sound effect causes > the module to stop for a second or so. PT modules also suffer from > slight disfigurations during that second. MED modules make the sound > effects sound absolutely horrible! How can I make sound effects that > don't play havoc with the music? I obviously can't use the Bell and > Shoot commands, so does anyone have a replacement? Example code is > required. This isn't much of a solution rather an explanation. Sorry. The inbuilt sound commands (shoot,bell etc) will mess up ANY music being played for a second or two. So you have to use sample banks and play sounds using Sam Play etc. Unfortuantely, these will still mess up all music playing EXCEPT if it's AMOS music banks being played, in which case it works fine. Another problem is that you'll have to find sound fx to replace shoot etc. This isn't that hard and I have plenty of shooting, exploding and bell type sounds if you are desperate. If I make a game that requires both music and sounds, the only way I have been able to do it is using AMOS music banks and AMOS sound banks combined. I usually play the sound through one channel at a time so that only one channel of music is cut off rather than the whole track stopping until the sound is finished. This method has never caused me any problems. NOTE: I have also found that if you play a MED module (which means the MED library is loaded), ANY sound effects played through an AMOS bank from then on, won't correctly play. Does anyone know of a correction for this as it means I can never use MED in a game? Also....a question for anyone. (not amos, sorry) Does anyone know of a patch to let Rainbow Islands work on an A1200? I've checked Aminet and they don't have one. Personally I don't care for it that much but it's my girlfriends favourite game and it'll only work on my old A500 which I don't have with me. Thanks -Murray \\|// (o o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Alastair Murray : pmymagm@pmn1.maths.nott.ac.uk Web Page : http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm/ (inc. AMOS+Music) ***** Please Sign My Guestbook!!!!! ***** --------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 8 17:37:42 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22918 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09173 for amos-out; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09170 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11511 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from h130.redrose.net ([208.7.248.130]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0929036; 8 Mar 97 21:38 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 16:40:14 -0500 To: Joona I Palaste From: Mush Subject: Re: Sound effects with music modules Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <857857100.0929036.0@h130.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: At 10:52 PM 07-03-97 +0200, Joona I Palaste wrote: >Hello. > >I am writing a game where I want to use music and sound effects >together, and have found it difficult to get the sound effects to >play properly. The game can play PT, MED or AMOS music bank modules. >However, if I use a Bell or a Shoot command during a module, I get >weird result. On each of the three types, the sound effect causes >the module to stop for a second or so. PT modules also suffer from >slight disfigurations during that second. MED modules make the sound >effects sound absolutely horrible! How can I make sound effects that >don't play havoc with the music? I obviously can't use the Bell and >Shoot commands, so does anyone have a replacement? Example code is >required. Wouldnt acquiring music tracker modules which only use 3 channels work, and have AMOS play the sound FX through the remaining channel? I alternate my Sound FX with this method, so if I need to play 2 or 3 sound FX at once, I alternate them through 2 of the channels at a time, so the sound appears to be "mixing" together. 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Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 8 18:47:19 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24907 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 18:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12096 for amos-out; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12093 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12510 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:16:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08408 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:15:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from kimbark.uchicago.edu (15273@kimbark.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.52]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA21092 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:14:15 -0600 (CST) Received: (from sdmatott@localhost) by kimbark.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) id QAA08408 for amos-list@access.digex.net; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:14:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:14:14 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Douglas Matott Message-Id: <199703082214.QAA08408@kimbark.uchicago.edu> To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Anim Player.... Status: RO X-Status: From what I understand animation support was mostly an afterthought in Amos Pro, and from personal expierance I'll say it seems like that's true, I doubt you can get it to play straight form disk, maybe splitting up the anim and playing a little from one chunk of ram while the next segment load up into another piece of ram, and so on, would work, but I can't say for sure. Scott Matott sXe From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 8 23:31:49 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA16201 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA18808 for amos-out; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 22:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18805 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 22:01:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.usask.ca (mail.usask.ca [128.233.3.34]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA22512 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 22:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ascl-a1-12.usask.ca by mail.usask.ca (PMDF V5.1-5 #20802) with SMTP id <0E6R9Q33L00ESZ@mail.usask.ca> for amos-list@access.digex.net; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:01:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 21:01:16 -0600 (CST) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mail.usask.ca From: Sturla Pettersen Subject: Re: InactiveList? X-Sender: stp486@mail.usask.ca To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-id: <1.5.4.16.19970308210117.23270abc@mail.usask.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Status: RO X-Status: At 10:00 AM 3/8/97 +1000, you wrote: >anyone know the correct syntax for interface language inactivelist command? >I have followed the manual but just keep getting an error message. >thanks in advance >-- > // >---koda.netspace.net.au--- > \X/ > I`ve tried using InactiveList myself - plenty of times. I does not appear to be there (just like Llist in Amos 1.3, eh ?). My suggestion is that you set it up as an ActiveList and then use the Dialog Freeze command to make it appear inactive. Cheers, Sturla From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 9 11:35:32 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29558 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26710 for amos-out; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26707 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:37:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.12]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07229 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:37:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from holly by holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk with SMTP id PAA14085; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:37:25 GMT Sender: csuaw@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <3322D932.6356@warwick.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 15:37:22 +0000 From: James Daniels Organization: Apex Designs X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AMOS mailing list Subject: New AMOS game... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: I hope you've all donwloaded Fire Power by now? -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ /James Daniels Email: J.R.Daniels@warwick.ac.uk \ /(Apex Designs) WWW: http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~csuaw \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 9 12:53:55 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06791 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:53:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27444 for amos-out; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27441 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.7]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00182 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lily by lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk with SMTP id QAA20640; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:40:51 GMT Sender: csuaw@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <3322E7F7.5E36@warwick.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 16:40:23 +0000 From: James Daniels Organization: Apex Designs X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AMOS mailing list Subject: New AMOS game... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: I hope you've all donwloaded Fire Power from the Aminet by now? Its in game/2play and was, of course, completely written in AMOS. Feedback welcome. (sorry for posting this twice) -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ /James Daniels Email: J.R.Daniels@warwick.ac.uk \ /(Apex Designs) WWW: http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~csuaw \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 9 19:31:29 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22643 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 19:31:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA10956 for amos-out; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 18:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10953 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 18:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (mail3.geocities.com [204.7.246.133]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21097 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 18:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from acer-200 (user@tul-ok4-01.ix.netcom.com [204.31.234.129]) by geocities.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11067 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:32:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703092332.PAA11067@geocities.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Adam Parrott" Organization: Parrottsoft, Ltd. To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 17:38:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Questions and comments. Reply-to: parrottsoft@geocities.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53) Status: RO X-Status: Greetings. Well, here it is Sunday and I haven't checked my mail since Thursday evening. Ack! 95 messages! Argh! Nothing get's by anyone around here obviously. Oh, btw everyone, this is another digest.. Firstly, when I was answering Mr. Murray's question about why he couldn't download .lha files as you can .zip's, Mr. Griffith had something to say to my reply (when I said it was the broswer's problem in downloading the file): > It is NOT the browser, it is the SERVER that is sending the document. Yes yes yes, I KNOW the SERVER is SENDING the file. I never said the BROWSER was SENDING the file. What I meant was that most broswers, like Netscape or Internet Explorer (for you people out there that use your PC for Netting purposes like I do), determine the type of file that is coming in from the server using a table of MIME types that can be defined. When it encounters a file with a type that it finds on that table (or you can call it a "list" if you wish, doesn't matter), then it downloads it, views it, or does what it's supposed to do with it. If it ever encounters a file type that it is unfamiliar with, then it uSUaLLy opens that file as text in the browser. That's what I meant. Now, what I just said applies to browsers that I am familiar with on the PC, I've never used an Amiga browser because I don't use my Amiga for Netting or browsing, so I don't know much about Amiga browsers. Mr. Griffith continues.. > Each file sent by a server via http has an informational header. > That header indicates the type of file being sent. This is the MIME > type. An html file gets a 'text/html', a gif image gets a > 'image/gif', and so on. Most servers deduce the type of file by the > extention (*.type) and many will default to a type of 'text/plain' > for unrecognized extentions. The server tells the browser this is > text, so the browser trys to display it. ..blah blah blah.. Like I said, I was referring to most browsers that are use on the PC. > ..This is the MIME type.. I know what MIME is, and I knew very well what I was talking about. Sorry if I said anything that sounded remotely offensive in that last line there, but this pushed my button. I had to say something.. Now, onto Mr. Owen's inquiry for Aminet URLs: > Does anyone know the address for the AMinet I've tried to search for > it several times but to no avail can someone please mail me it??? Mush (Mr. Andy of Kellett) replied: > There are several addresses. The first being ftp.netnet.net but I > use ftp.wustl.edu as it is much faster. Actually, Netnet's old Aminet server's are gone @ laslo.netnet.net, but in it's place you will find their new Aminet mirror @ tigris.netnet.net. Try these links for other Aminet mirrors: The Official Aminet website: http://www.aminet.org Mirror sites: Netnet's mirror in the US: http://tigris.netnet.net Wustl's mirror in the US: http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/~aminet Livewire's mirror down under: http://www.livewire.com.au/aminet Sunsite's mirror in the UK: http://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/public/aminet/info/www/ I'm sure there are others, but at the moment I don't have time to go looking for others. This list should do. Mr. Marcel Toele commented Amos: > Yes, I do too think the Amos-Editor is great, > but I can only be opened on a PAL screen. Shouldn't that "I" be "it". And if you are referring to the Editor, it isn't limited to PAL screens. It opens on NTSC just as it can PAL screens as well, too. I couldn't program if it was limited to PAL. Anyhow, I don't want anyone to forget the grand "re-opening" of my website (new pages and everything, like what Mush has been doing, only I started back at Christmas). What's been taking me so long is I've been trying to decide on a new look for my site. I finally have chosen a new look, and I have been creating and rendering all the new graphics and coding all the HTML these past few weeks. I assure you that it will look good. *ALSO*.. Make sure you send me ANY links to any AMOS related pages you have so I can put them up on my site. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. If you want any sites linked from my site, PLEASE send them to me withing the end of this week. If I recieve any links after this Friday, I will still put them up, but you'll have to wait until I update my pages again, which may be a couple weeks or so. For those of you who are wondering about The Cafe Project (my 3D engine, remember), it IS coming along, nearly upto Wolfenstein already, and I hope to take it farther (maybe to the level of Doom or Duke Nukem, perhaps, if I can get a nice BSP algorithm written :) The Cafe Project WILL officially become a Team project when my web pages are finished (all the info for helping and testing will be put up), and you'll be able to sign up for beta testing my game, Eventuator, when I finished a beta of the engine and whip up a beta of the game. Hope I haven't kept anyone reading this to long, thanks again. Long live the Amiga! ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ||P |||a |||r |||r |||o |||t |||t |||s |||o |||f |||t || ||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|| |/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\| Adam Parrott General Manager and Lead Programmer http://www.parrottsoft.base.org http://www.parrottsoft.home.ml.org http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/6116 mailto: parrottsoft@geocities.com ______________________________________________________ At Parrottsoft, we specialize in Amiga software, using Amos and the latest Graphics and Sound software. Our current project: A 3D gaming engine similar to Build and leaner than Quake. Check out the Parrottsoft website for more details! Now there's an idea. (r) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 10 08:39:38 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05253 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA27368 for amos-out; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:11:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27365 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA22374 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:11:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news2.digex.net!lynx.unm.edu!tesuque!mr2.mst6.lanl.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.nacamar.de!news.ecrc.de!news.mch.sni.de!rudi.HL.Siemens.DE!newsadm From: "Matthijs Hollemans (HL CAD FCA)" Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: AMOS Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 09:08:51 +0100 Organization: SIEMENS AG BEREICH HALBLEITER Lines: 18 Message-ID: <331E7B93.167EB0E7@KILLSPAM.hl.siemens.de> References: <01bc27b6$7f2e4080$1f08b083@estbcazz.yto.estec.esa.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: wave.hl.siemens.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Xref: news2.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:110654 ReSent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 07:11:22 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: M. Wiselius wrote: > > Hi, fellow programmers, > > does anyone know where I can get a copy of good ole AMOS? I mean the > "normal" version, not the AMOS Pro edition. I'm also looking for the manual > of AMOS Pro in PDF format (Acrobat Reader). For cheap copies of Amos Classic (as it's called nowadays) you might want to order a back issue from Amiga Format or any other Amiga magazine that had Amos on a coverdisk...Also, I believe the Compiler and Amos 3D were included on some coverdisks. Mind you that these mags are pretty old (2-3 years I guess). -- Matthijs Hollemans mailto:hlmod@hl.siemens.de REMOVE THE "KILLSPAM" FROM MY E-MAIL ADDRESS TO MAIL ME! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 10 10:58:17 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03329 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29768 for amos-out; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:22:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29765 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (golden.org [199.166.210.2]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10430 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (Giark@cisco10-96.golden.net [207.216.118.96]) by golden.net (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA22199 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:22:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:20:46 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3322D932.6356@warwick.ac.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: New AMOS game... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 09-Mar-97, James Daniels wrote: >I hope you've all donwloaded Fire Power by now? Yep. Not too bad. Well met and godspeed, Giark joehick@golden.net http://www.golden.net/~joehick/fbn/index.html ______ ______ _____ .------------------------------------------. / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ! AMOS games, utilities, demos, etc. ! / /__ / /_/ / / / / / ! ! / ___/ / ___ | / / / / ! CyberSpace BBS (519)579-0072 ! / / / /__/ / / / / / ! on A2000 060/50MHz (519)579-0173 ! /_/ /______/ /_/ /_/ ! ! Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! ! FBN Amiga 500 020 14MHz 1C/5F RAM 3.1OS ! `------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 11 02:13:44 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13033 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA22809 for amos-out; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22806 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.14]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04123 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA16453 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:12:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from whx-ca6-16.ix.netcom.com(204.31.115.208) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma016418; Tue Mar 11 00:12:28 1997 From: Stephen Lebed Reply-To: slebed@ix.netcom.com To: Amos List Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:12:38 -0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: The RIOS/LEBED Project Subject: Amos Pro speed? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id BAA22807 Status: RO X-Status: Does anyone know the answer to this? I writing a routine that needs to play animations off Cdrom at 15 fps. Since this rate must be constant in order for the sound track to keep in sync, is there a way to make sure it stays at 15fps on NTSC and PAL systems? The WAIT VBL command pauses for a 60th of a second on a NTSC system while a PAL pauses for 50th of a second. What can I use that will give me a common pause time for both systems? ----- Stephen Lebed The RIOS/LEBED Project slebed@ix.netcom.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 11 07:56:42 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05700 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:56:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26755 for amos-out; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 05:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26752 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 05:45:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from maelstrom.dial.pipex.net (maelstrom.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.52]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26104 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 05:45:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from typhoon.dial.pipex.net (158.43.128.27) by maelstrom.dial.pipex.net (8.8.3/) id KAA12375; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:45:34 GMT Received: from aj144.du.pipex.com (193.130.249.144) by typhoon.dial.pipex.net (8.8.2/UUNET PIPEX simple 1.29) id KAA13172; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:42:56 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970311103630.002a4bb4@pop.dial.pipex.com> X-Sender: he31@pop.dial.pipex.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:36:30 +0000 To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Paterson Printing Status: RO X-Status: Hello to all the AMOS users out there! Right.. it seems customary to post a _hi there!_ when subscribing to the list, so here's a little hello from a fellow AMOS programmer. Hopefully sometime soon (probably after the weekend) I'm going to post my first sources archive to the Aminet (Should be about 1Mb of sources) that I started a good long while ago... I'll post a message here when It's done. Have fun, and keep AMOSing Peter. ============================================================================ // Peter Storey // // Current Setup: // Amiga A1200, 2Gb Harddrive, ZIP Drive \\// AMOS 1.36; AMOS Pro 2.0; AMCAF 1.40; (And dreams of an 060 accelerator, 64 Gb Ram, etc. etc.) ----------------------------------------------------------------- A M I G A email: he31@dial.pipex.com ============================================================================ Paterson Printing Limited Tel: 01892 511212 Fax: 01892 511566 ISDN: 01892 517234 E-Mail: General - paterson@dial.pipex.com Sales & Marketing - sales.paterson@dial.pipex.com Technical - tech.paterson@dial.pipex.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 11 16:54:39 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07729 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14879 for amos-out; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14876 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA20755 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:01:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from h159.redrose.net ([208.7.248.159]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0913988; 11 Mar 97 18:39 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Mush From: Mush Subject: Conversation with the man himself!! Message-ID: <858105582.0913988.0@h159.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: Well, I had a nice pleasant surprise on IRC - Francois Lionet himself! I quickly got onto the conversation of releasing the source code for AMOS, and it turns out that he owns the copyrights to AMOS as far as he is concerned. He is thinking of releasing the source code for AMOS into PD providing that Europress dont give him a hard time over it, and he will be emailing me the source also, so I can upload it to my pages for downloading by anyone. This could at least give us the source code for AMOS itself, and can allow developers to take this fine language and implement it into an AGA/OS friendly system. All the best! Andy Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Supplier Editor of Extreme AMOS - the BEST AMOS disk magazine around!! Issue 4 being released soon - click the "Extreme AMOS" button on the new homepages!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 12 00:35:24 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05499 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:35:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03231 for amos-out; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03228 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (mail5.geocities.com [204.7.246.135]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA06079 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from acer-200 (tul-ok4-04.ix.netcom.com [204.31.234.132]) by geocities.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA25932 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:18:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703120318.TAA25932@geocities.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Adam Parrott" Organization: Parrottsoft, Ltd. To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:12:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Questions and comments replies. Reply-to: parrottsoft@geocities.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53) Status: RO X-Status: Greetings again. Here's just a short digest of some recent replies to my most recent digest I sent out Sunday. Mr. Collin said: > How's the acronym coming along? ;-) in regard to my current project I'm working on (The Cafe Project). Truthfully, I hadn't given much thought to an acronym, but, speaking of this, anyone that wishes to drop me a line on ideas for some cool acronyms using the word "Cafe" (probably will be CAFE or C.A.F.E), I would appreciate it. I really haven't the time right now to brainstorm over one, so I'll leave it up to you guys. More than likely I'll get some people here on the List (including myself) to vote on the suggestions I recieve, and I'll post the winner and the acronym that was chosen after we've voted. Mr. Griffith had something to say as well: > Opponent? Button pushing? Some days it just doesn't pay to try. > At least someone understood the point. And for the record, its not > Amiga, its not PC, (nor even MAC,SUN or otherwise), its just HTTP. on my little argument with him earlier about MIME-types and .lha downloading problems. I was aware that the problem alot of people were having WAS their browsers fault in conjunction with the server either sending the wrong type of file header or their browser's inability to distinguish what type of file was being sent, and I was aware that this is usually due to HTTP. Sorry if anyone got offended over this. :) Also, thanks to everyone who sent me links to their AMOS related pages. Here's my current list of links: Mr. Branko Collin - http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin/amiga/amos.html Mr. Bob Akerberg - http://www.avalon.net/~bobal Mr. Greg Sikorski - http://members.tripod.com/~gte/ Mr. Lee Howarth - http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/9343/ Mr. Murray - http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm/ Mr. Richard Smith - http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ma4rms/amiga.html Mr. Andy Kellett for the Mushroom PD - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Mr. Joe Hickman for Fly By Nite Videe-oh! - http://www.golden.net/~joehick/fbn/fbn.html That's all the links I have at the moment, so if anyone else has any more they would like to see posted on my site, please send them to me as soon as possible. Oh, one more thing. Anyone with any information on the A/Box (I would like a site somewhere on the Net that has some info on it) please send it to me, whether it's a link to a site or just hard core info. I've never read up on it and I would like some info on it. Thanks. Long live the Amiga! ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ||P |||a |||r |||r |||o |||t |||t |||s |||o |||f |||t || ||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|| |/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\| Adam Parrott General Manager and Lead Programmer http://www.parrottsoft.base.org http://www.parrottsoft.home.ml.org http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/6116 mailto: parrottsoft@geocities.com ______________________________________________________ At Parrottsoft, we specialize in Amiga software, using Amos and the latest Graphics and Sound software. Our current project: A 3D gaming engine similar to Build and leaner than Quake. Check out the Parrottsoft website for more details! Now there's an idea. (r) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 12 18:13:29 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24556 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 18:13:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA13366 for amos-out; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13363 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:57:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from foreigner.class.udg.mx (foreigner.class.udg.mx [148.202.3.5]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04444 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from slip-32.cencar.udg.mx (slip-32.cencar.udg.mx [148.202.33.132]) by foreigner.class.udg.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA26379 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:57:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3325E3C3.4AF3@foreigner.class.udg.mx> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:59:16 -0800 From: Manuel Tonatiuh Moreno Reply-To: hugor@foreigner.staff.udg.mx X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Conversation with the man himself!! References: <858105582.0913988.0@h159.redrose.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: Mush wrote: > > Well, I had a nice pleasant surprise on IRC - Francois Lionet himself! > > I quickly got onto the conversation of releasing the source code for AMOS, > and it turns out that he owns the copyrights to AMOS as far as he is > concerned. He is thinking of releasing the source code for AMOS into PD > providing that Europress dont give him a hard time over it, and he will be > emailing me the source also, so I can upload it to my pages for downloading > by anyone. > > This could at least give us the source code for AMOS itself, and can allow > developers to take this fine language and implement it into an AGA/OS > friendly system. > > All the best! > > Andy Kellett > Thatīs a good new! Do you have Francois' e-mail?? -- ******************************* Be excellent to each other! ******************************* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 13 01:19:55 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29023 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08963 for amos-out; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08960 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:04:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA03348 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125]) by relay-10.mail.demon.net id ad1018220; 13 Mar 97 3:53 GMT Received: by mirex.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA005wh; Thu, 13 Mar 97 03:48:01 GMT Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 03:48:01 GMT Message-Id: <9703130348.AA005wc@mirex.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: <241b39ee.u8t20e.dc00a-Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <858105582.0913988.0@h159.redrose.net> (from Mush ) (at Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:01:05 -0500 (EST)) Organization: Mirex Software Reply-To: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk Website: http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: Keith Hill To: mpd@mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Conversation with the man himself!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id XAA08961 Status: RO X-Status: To the one known as Mush, > Well, I had a nice pleasant surprise on IRC - Francois Lionet himself! ! > I quickly got onto the conversation of releasing the source code for AMOS, > and it turns out that he owns the copyrights to AMOS as far as he is > concerned. He is thinking of releasing the source code for AMOS into PD > providing that Europress dont give him a hard time over it, and he will be > emailing me the source also, so I can upload it to my pages for downloading > by anyone. Way cool ! > This could at least give us the source code for AMOS itself, and can allow > developers to take this fine language and implement it into an AGA/OS > friendly system. This could spell the end for blitz.. (maybe) > All the best! cyagain. _ _ _ _ _ _ | This .sig space for rent, or available |_> |_| |_| |\ | |_ | | | / | | for sponsership. 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Contact above | address for details. --------------+--------------- http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 13 20:10:11 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20760 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA07049 for amos-out; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:43:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07046 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:43:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02807 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:43:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from h152.redrose.net ([208.7.248.152]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0522194; 13 Mar 97 21:03 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Mush From: Mush Subject: Page Updates Message-ID: <858287035.0522194.0@h152.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: Ive made more changes to my pages. They should now be compatable with Ibrowse, and Ive also put the lists from my PD library in, so PD can be ordered. Andy Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 14 04:55:52 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03924 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 04:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA22796 for amos-out; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22793 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.8]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24430 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA00201 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:14:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from whx-ca3-19.ix.netcom.com(204.31.115.115) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000189; Fri Mar 14 02:14:20 1997 From: Stephen Lebed Reply-To: slebed@ix.netcom.com To: Amos List Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:13:48 -0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: The RIOS/LEBED Project Subject: 16bit sound? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id DAA22794 Status: RO X-Status: Hi again, Does anyone know a way to play 16bit sound samples through Amos Pro? I'd prefer to use AIFFs, but I'll use any format that may be needed (like WAV..,) -- Stephen Lebed The RIOS/LEBED Project slebed@ix.netcom.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 14 12:07:34 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04264 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05965 for amos-out; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05962 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from f5.hotmail.com (F5.hotmail.com [207.82.250.16]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10015 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by f5.hotmail.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA29041; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:37:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:37:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703141437.GAA29041@f5.hotmail.com> Received: from 193.214.146.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:37:05 PST X-Originating-IP: [193.214.146.21] From: " Ragnar Fyri" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Transition effects part 2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="====================987654321_0==_" X-Attachment: TEXTFILE.txt Status: RO X-Status: --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain; name="TEXTFILE.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TEXTFILE.txt" For starters I've got a little comment about "Amos for Windows or any ot- her platform": A PC version of The Creator would probably not be called AMOS, as AM stands for Amiga (it used to be STOS, remember?). It would have to be PCOS or WinOS or something. Stupid names, but then we're talking about people who call their startup files Autoexec.bat and Config.sys... [Excuse me a moment, I have to go untie my tongue.] Ah, that's better... But now what you have all been waiting for (Wake up, there!) - more picture transitions! First of all, what I said last time wasn't quite true. I do have one more effect that doesn't require pictures to be of identical size and resolution. I called it FancyRoll, and this is the effect that actually got used in the slide show. It runs like this: Auto View Off : Hide On Unpack 6 To 0 : Unpack 7 To 1 Screen Display 1,,,,0 Auto View On Wait 200 For A=1 To Screen Height : Screen Display 1,,,,A : Wait Vbl : Next Wait Key : Edit Nice and simple, you probably could have thought of something like that yourself. Well, how about this one! (I call it 16SquareOver) Set Buffer 1000 SAV_IT=False : Rem Change to True to store pictures! Curs Off : Print : Centre "Wait for first picture," Print : Centre "press a key to switch!" Print : Centre "Press a key again to quit." Hide On : Auto View Off Unpack 6 To 2 : Screen Hide 2 SW1=Screen Width : SH1=Screen Height : SC1=Screen Colour Unpack 7 To 3 : Screen Hide 3 SW2=Screen Width : SH2=Screen Height : SC2=Screen Colour If SW1<>SW2 or SH1<>SH2 or SC1<>SC2 Default : Print "Mismatch!!" Print Print "SW1=";SW1,"SW2=";SW2 Print "SH1=";SH1,"SH2=";SH2 Print "SC1=";SC1,"SC2=";SC2 End End If ' 'Ordnes in allung ' Screen Open 0,SW1,SH1,SC1,Lowres Curs Off : Flash Off Screen To Front 0 Screen Copy 2 To 0 : Screen 0 : Get Palette 2 Auto View On XER=SW1/16 : YER=SH1/16 : XYER=(XER*YER)-1 : Dim X(XYER),Y(XYER) X=0 : Y=0 : For A=0 To XYER X(A)=X : Y(A)=Y Add X,1,0 To XER-1 : If X=0 Then Inc Y Next For SHUFFLE=1 To 5 For A=0 To XYER Repeat B=Rnd(XYER) Until B<>A Swap X(A),X(B) : Swap Y(A),Y(B) Next Next Wait Key T=Timer : C=100 If SAV_IT Then Save Iff "t:"+Str$(C) : Inc C Screen 0 : Fade 12 To 3 For A=0 To XYER X1=X(A)*16 : Y1=Y(A)*16 : X2=X1+16 : Y2=Y1+16 Screen Copy 3,X1,Y1,X2,Y2 To 0,X1,Y1 : Wait Vbl If SAV_IT Then Save Iff "t:"+Str$(C) : Inc C Next TT=Timer-T : Wait Key Default : Print TT/50;",";Mid$(Str$(TT mod 50),2);" seconds!" The program times itself, and claims that the transition takes 6.2 seconds for two plain low-res pictures. The fade command right before the last loop (the actual transition) is really only necessary if your pictures have different palettes (which is not recommended, it looks pretty awful if the timing is bad). The SAV_IT flag (which for obvious reasons could not be called SAVE_IT) gives you the option to save each step as a separate picture so you can make them into an animation if you like. Do NOT use this with different palettes because the colour fading probably would not work at all. (Besides some programs, like DPaint, insist on keeping the same palette for the whole animation.) That should be all for now. BTW, talking of transitions, even such a sim- ple thing as fading can be done in many different ways. You could do it one colour at a time, one component (RGB) at a time, and there are even two ways of changing a group of numbers. To illustrate what I mean, here are two ways of fading 123 to 000 (black): 123 123 122 012 111 001 000 000 The first column reduces the highest number(s) by one each time, the second reduces all numbers by one until they reach zero. Fading to and from arbitrary colours makes the picture more complicated, but the difference should be the same. Go ahead and experiment! And just to remind you, I'm not subscribing for the moment, so please address all comments to me personally. "It's supposed to stop on a dime. Must be some kinda BIG dime!" -- Roger Rabbit --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain --====================987654321_0==_-- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 15 08:40:26 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08974 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 08:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA00116 for amos-out; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 07:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00113 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 07:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA07783 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 07:21:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news2.digex.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!128.250.1.21!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.netspace.net.au!mickday From: mickday@netspace.net.au (Michael Day) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: AMOS: installing & updating query Date: 15 Mar 1997 11:25:24 GMT Organization: Netspace Online Systems Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5ge0v4$cm6$1@otis.netspace.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: netspace.net.au X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news2.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:110931 ReSent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 07:21:00 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: I need some help to get upto update with AMOS. I mean I bought AMOS years ago and then bought the compiler when it came out. I tried writing a big program. It failed to compile so I lost interest after that. Anyway, I've pulled out my disks after 5 years and I don't know how to install it. I have the original AMOS disk, and disks labelled with these updates: 1.23, 1.3, 1.32, 1.34. As for the compiler, I have a 1.34 update. I found a web site that claimed to have a later update but the link doesn't work. The links on the Amiga Web directory aren't any help either. My question: Do I need to install 1.23, then 1.3 then 1.32 then 1.34 or can I just go and update the first disk using the latest revision I have? A convenient alternative: If anyone has a fully updated installation of AMOS I'd really appreciate getting a copy. That'd be the easiest way instead of tackling it myself. If anyone can help me I'd be very appreciative. Thanks Michael From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 15 13:54:02 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09458 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 13:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08078 for amos-out; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08075 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:29:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA16830 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:29:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from h154.redrose.net ([208.7.248.154]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0926523; 15 Mar 97 17:14 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Michael Day From: Mush Subject: Re: AMOS: installing & updating query Cc: Mush Message-ID: <858446095.0926523.0@h154.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: At 11:25 AM 3/15/97 GMT, Michael Day wrote: >I need some help to get upto update with AMOS. [SNIP] >Anyway, I've pulled out my disks after 5 years and I don't know how >to install it. I have the original AMOS disk, and disks labelled with >these updates: 1.23, 1.3, 1.32, 1.34. As for the compiler, I have >a 1.34 update. > >I found a web site that claimed to have a later update but the link >doesn't work. The links on the Amiga Web directory aren't any help >either. Hehe. Lots of the old AMOS websites are non-functional. Take the official AMOS site for example... > >My question: >Do I need to install 1.23, then 1.3 then 1.32 then 1.34 or can I just >go and update the first disk using the latest revision I have? > Just go ahead and install V1.34. The latest version of AMOS is in fact AMOSPro V2.00 - A much more user-friendly version of AMOS. AMOSPro V1.12 and Classic AMOS V1.34 were both given away on coverdisks, so you should be able to get a copy from somewhere. >A convenient alternative: >If anyone has a fully updated installation of AMOS I'd really >appreciate getting a copy. That'd be the easiest way instead of >tackling it myself. > I used to have it in my AMOS PD library (homepage at the bottom) but it was suggested I remove it before Europress have a ball at me. Hope this helps you out. Feel free to ask if you have any more problems. My PD library is packed full of AMOS utilities, games, and source if you need some. Andrew Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 16 02:52:40 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12130 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 02:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA03096 for amos-out; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA03093 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01736 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P28.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.28]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA06724 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 06:07:58 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:45:03 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Command Line$ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Well, I have to ask, is there on Aminet set of procedures that does same like C's argc, argv[] arguments, I mean, procedures which use Command Line$ as an argument, and then first would return number of argument, and second [n] would return argument number n. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 16 21:34:15 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18357 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 21:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA28457 for amos-out; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:29:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28454 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA05078 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:29:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from dcandy.demon.co.uk ([158.152.244.21]) by relay-10.mail.demon.net id an1016162; 16 Mar 97 23:59 GMT Received: by dcandy.uucp (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00f69; Sat, 15 Mar 97 11:21:02 GMT Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 11:21:02 GMT Message-Id: <9703151121.AA00f68@dcandy.uucp> X-MailViewer: RRR/DIGITAL CANDY E-Mail From: I was here To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: serial modem commands Status: RO X-Status: Hi, I have been playing around with the Serial commands on amospro and havn't had much success with them. So can anyone tell me is the a way to transfer files from one computer to another via a modem. Like for instance uploading to a BBS from an amos program or conneting via a modem to a friend and sending files back and forth? I've tryed Serial Send and Serial Out but they don't seem to work :( well if any one can help email me at :- Cool@Dcandy.demon.co.uk I'm not on the list as i get email access through a BBS so if anyone can help you'll have to email me direct. Thanks, - Chris Seward Manager/Programmer __ __ _ _____ ___ _____ __ | \ / // \ / ___// \/ \ \ / / | \ \/ // \/ \__/ /\/ o /\ \/ / |_|\__/ \___/\____/\_/ \___/_/\__/ Productions ------------------------------------- Email : Cool@Dcandy.demon.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------. . E-Mail sent Via The Demo Scene's Most Kicking BBS :| __|. __ .|_ __ | __ __ _ __| | (__||(__|||_.(--)|_. (__(--)( \_)(__|(__| | | - -----' - ------' | | 6 Ringdown 33.6k Nodes: 4 Gig Hd: A4k040: 36Mb RAM: 16 Gig DAT | | Free Internet Email: 14 CDROMs Online /| | +44 (0)191 232 5527 //| `----------------------------------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 16 20:48:27 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16814 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA28171 for amos-out; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28168 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04349 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:10:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from dcandy.demon.co.uk ([158.152.244.21]) by relay-10.mail.demon.net id ao1016162; 16 Mar 97 23:59 GMT Received: by dcandy.uucp (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00f6e; Sat, 15 Mar 97 11:21:36 GMT Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 11:21:36 GMT Message-Id: <9703151121.AA00f6d@dcandy.uucp> X-MailViewer: RRR/DIGITAL CANDY E-Mail From: I was here To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Bootlogger V1.1 Status: RO X-Status: Hello there, You may remember i said you can get a new Bootlogger program from me direct well now there is a new version V1.1 so if anyone would like to get the new update please email me at the address below. The file will be LHA'ed and sent out UUEncoded so get them emails to me :) - Chris Seward Manager/Programmer __ __ _ _____ ___ _____ __ | \ / // \ / ___// \/ \ \ / / | \ \/ // \/ \__/ /\/ o /\ \/ / |_|\__/ \___/\____/\_/ \___/_/\__/ Productions ------------------------------------- Email : Cool@Dcandy.demon.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------. . E-Mail sent Via The Demo Scene's Most Kicking BBS :| __|. __ .|_ __ | __ __ _ __| | (__||(__|||_.(--)|_. (__(--)( \_)(__|(__| | | - -----' - ------' | | 6 Ringdown 33.6k Nodes: 4 Gig Hd: A4k040: 36Mb RAM: 16 Gig DAT | | Free Internet Email: 14 CDROMs Online /| | +44 (0)191 232 5527 //| `----------------------------------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 16 08:40:23 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17428 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:40:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA09357 for amos-out; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 06:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09354 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 06:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mhv.net (root@spice.mhv.net [199.0.0.21]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19654 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 06:57:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mike (ulster-port52.mhv.net [205.161.119.72]) by mhv.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24164 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 06:57:58 -0500 Message-ID: <332BDF5A.20A7@mhv.net> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 06:54:02 -0500 From: Michael Drummond X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Command Line$ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: >From: > Nikola Smolenski > To: > amos-list@access.digex.net > >Well, I have to ask, is there on Aminet set of procedures that does >same like C's argc, argv[] arguments, I mean, procedures which use >Command Line$ as an argument, and then first would return number of >argument, and second [n] would return argument number n. How about if Command Line$ is not empty, you set argc=1, then increment it for every space Command Line$ contains. Then you could make an array called argv and read in up to each space for each array element. This would make the array index work like argv. (I forget if argv is zero based. Mike Mike From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 16 23:33:41 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA21155 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA01606 for amos-out; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:00:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01603 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA19261 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:00:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from h175.redrose.net ([208.7.248.175]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0923286; 17 Mar 97 2:46 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Mush From: Mush Subject: Extreme AMOS 4 Message-ID: <858566771.0923286.0@h175.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: Im now starting working on Extreme AMOS Issue 4 - 11 months late, but hey, better late than never!! There are several things I would like to appeal to the AMOS public for, as I wouldnt be able to do it all on my own again. I am seriously after any AMOS articles whatsoever, especially tutorials with/without source code examples. I would like someone to contribute a game/utilitiy, either in demo or full format, that is no bigger than 250K when unpacked from any archive, as it will be put on the disk in full format. I need at least 1 game and 1 utilitiy. please email all articles/programs to me at mpd@mushy-pd.demon.co.uk for inclusion. Everyone who submits will be credited. Thank-you Andrew Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 17 06:05:29 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03446 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 06:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA08218 for amos-out; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:08:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA08212 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:08:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from amalthea.salford.ac.uk (amalthea.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.61]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22780 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from cms-notes-a.salford.ac.uk by amalthea.salford.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:08:13 +0000 Received: by cms-notes-a.salford.ac.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (305.3 1-15-1997)) id 8025645D.003240C3 ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:08:53 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: UNIVERSITY OF SALFORD From: Lee S Howarth To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <8025645D.00308282.00@cms-notes-a.salford.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:56:24 +0100 Subject: bending walls Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Over the weekend I decided to write a raycasting based wolf style engine in AMOS to see how it would run and so after a couple of hours coding I had a "working" system where i could strafe and walking forwards and backwards... The problem is to do with the walls, they bend the closer they get! My system is based on firing rays from my position and tracing them until they go out of range or hit a slither of a wall(I use Bresenhams line draw for that), to keep track of the distance from the point of firing to the hit-a-slither position i have a counter that is reset at the beginning of the line draw and is incremented at the start of every cycle in the linedraw... This is what produces the bending walls I presume... Is there a solution to the problem(I suppose using some form of seperate horizontal and vertical raycast might work)... At the moment the engine is only clocking 1 fps texture mapped 160x128 but speeding it up isn`t really a problem at the moment :-) Thanking anybody in advance who can give me some help :-) Lee From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 17 08:31:39 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01258 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA09697 for amos-out; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09694 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from f14.hotmail.com (F14.hotmail.com [207.82.250.25]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00396 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by f14.hotmail.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA11374; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 02:08:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 02:08:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703171008.CAA11374@f14.hotmail.com> Received: from 193.214.146.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 02:08:24 PST X-Originating-IP: [193.214.146.22] From: " Ragnar Fyri" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Transition effects part 3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="====================987654321_0==_" X-Attachment: textfile.txt Status: RO X-Status: --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain; name="textfile.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="textfile.txt" Okay, here we go again. I have caught up with my mailing list backlog, so after I post this I'll subscribe for a couple of days again to see what's going on right now. The rest of the revelations will have to wait until I download the archive file at the end of the month. (Someone's still doing them, right? Well, how about editing them a bit better? I don't want to waste time downloading 50 K of "this message was composed with program X and routed through Y, Z and W". Just the messages, date, sender, and subject please. (So Tom sent his message to Dick and Harry in addition to the list - who cares?? [Dick and Harry, perhaps, but they know already!])) Looking through some old archives reminded me of something I have been trying to figure out. I have a program with bobs that I want to be transparent in some places and opaque in others. (The background colour, that is.) Does anyone know anything about editing bob masks manually? (I'm not asking if it's possible - the mask is data, and data can be changed!) Another question before we start with the answers :-) : Can anyone out there write me a small MC routine? I don't want an extension, just a little routine to put in a bank. To give you a better idea about what I want, this is for the Quest mapper I mentioned in my first mailing. It stores map data as 16 bit integers (to be compatible with an older AmigaBasic version, and because it only needs 16bits anyway), but as we all know (?) Amos uses 32 bit integers. I handle the conversion by loading the file into a bank and then using a loop to Deek the data into an array, and when it's time to save I Doke the data back into the bank and save it. This is faster than what the AB program did (It used Cvi and Mki, reading and writing two bytes at a time), but still slow. MC would be faster of course. If that isn't enough of a challenge for you, my loading routine also draws an overview map on the screen while loading. (Nothing fancy, just isolate the terrain type data and plot a dot of that colour) All maps are the same size, so it should only be necessary the call the routine and give it the starting addresses of the array and the bank. And, of course, a flag to tell whether it should do 2-to-4 or 4-to-2. Or maybe two different routines... Of course I could just get rid of the array (saving a lot of memory) and r/w the data directly to and from he bank when needed, but I don't know how fast that would be. Anyone got experience with this? Okay, time for som more effects! I'll start with a nonstandard one I call FancyFlip. Hide On Screen Open 0,320,256,8,Lowres : Curs Off Screen Open 1,320,256,8,Lowres : Curs Off Wait Vbl : Dual Playfield 0,1 Screen 0 : Cls 0 ' 'Make first screen ' Screen 1 : Paper 0 : X=0 : For A=0 To 7 Ink A : Bar X,0 To X+40,255 : Add X,40 Next Pen 3 : Locate ,16 : Centre Border$("This is just a test.",2) Wait 150 ' 'Cover it up ' Screen 0 : Ink 1 For A=0 To 287 Draw 0,A To A,0 Draw 319,255-A To 319-A,255 Next ' 'Make second screen ' Screen 1 : Y=0 : For A=0 To 7 Ink A : Bar 0,Y To 319,Y+32 : Add Y,32 Next Pen 3 : Locate ,16 : Centre Border$("This is still just a test.",2) ' 'Show it ' Screen 0 : Ink 0 For A=287 To 0 Step -1 Draw 319,A To 319-A,0 Draw 0,255-A To A,255 Next Wait 150 ' 'One more time!! ' Screen 0 : Ink 1 For A=0 To 287 Draw 0,A To A,0 Draw 319,255-A To 319-A,255 Next ' 'Make new second screen ' Screen 1 : Cls 0 Pen 3 : Locate ,16 : Centre Border$("Can't you hear what I'm saying??",2) Ink 3 : Paint 0,0 ' 'Show it ' Screen 0 : Ink 0 For A=287 To 0 Step -1 Draw 319,A To 319-A,0 Draw 0,255-A To A,255 Next Wait 200 : Edit For those who weren't around last time (Welcome to the list, by the way!), the "nonstandard" thing is just that this is nota routine for switching from any picture to any other picture, though it can be made into one of those with a bit of work. (But you can only use pics that would fit into the back of a dual playfield, which is a bit limiting.) And yes, it repeats the same code twice, but it's just something I slapped together to see what it looked like. Let me know if you find it interesting enough to demand a structured version... Next is one of my "standard" routines, as before requiring two pictures of the same resolution and size, and preferably the same palette as well. To use the program as it is, you should have the pics packed into two banks, or you could modify it to load any two files you want ech time it runs. The first part of the program (down to "Ordnes in allung", which BTW is German for everything in order" spelled sideways) is exactly (?) the same as in my last program, but I'm including it for the sake of complete- ness and in case there should be any newcomers who didn't get the last chapter. This one's called FancyWipe. Set Buffer 1000 SAV_IT=False : Rem Ch404 Not Found

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SW2 or SH1<>SH2 or SC1<>SC2 Default : Print "Mismatch!!" Print Print "SW1=";SW1,"SW2=";SW2 Print "SH1=";SH1,"SH2=";SH2 Print "SC1=";SC1,"SC2=";SC2 End End If ' 'Ordnes in allung ' Screen Open 0,SW1,SH1,SC1,Lowres Curs Off : Flash Off Screen To Front 0 Screen Copy 2 To 0 : Screen 0 : Get Palette 2 Auto View On : Wait Key T=Timer : C=100 If SAV_IT Then Save Iff "t:"+Str$(C) : Inc C Screen 0 : Fade 12 To 3 For A=0 To SW1-4 Step 2 : B=SW1-A-3 Screen Copy 3,A,0,A+1,SH1 To 0,A,0 Screen Copy 3,B,0,B+1,SH1 To 0,B,0 : Wait Vbl If SAV_IT Then Save Iff "t:"+Str$(C) : Inc C Next TT=Timer-T : Wait Key Default : Print TT/50;",";Mid$(Str$(TT mod 50),2);" seconds!" Right, the last two lines are also the same... This took about 3 --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain --====================987654321_0==_-- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 17 07:04:15 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27661 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA09725 for amos-out; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09722 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from EUnet.yu (SOLAIR.EUnet.yu [194.247.192.52]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00649 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from eunet.yu (eunet@NS-01-P4.EUnet.yu [194.247.195.4]) by EUnet.yu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA20670 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:09:56 +0100 (MET) From: Nikola Smolenski To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:03:36 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <332BDF5A.20A7@mhv.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Command Line$ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 16-Mar-97, Michael Drummond wrote: >>Well, I have to ask, is there on Aminet set of procedures that does >same >like C's argc, argv[] arguments, I mean, procedures which use >Command Line$ >as an argument, and then first would return number of >argument, and second >[n] would return argument number n. >How about if Command Line$ is not empty, you set argc=1, then increment >it for every space Command Line$ contains. Then you could make an array >called argv and read in up to each space for each array element. This >would make the array index work like argv. (I forget if argv is zero >based. Not, that wouldn`t work properly, because if there are multiple spaces in command line, there should be treated as single (e.g. Type abc hex ). However, I have done argc, and now am on argv, but this goes slowly... I really don`t have too much time... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \--- :_ :_ :_::- --: : ::_) _: --- \/ ----------------------------------/ \\_: !_)!_,! !!_, !,!_!! \(_! ::::..:::: nEVERmIND :::'`::::_// `\------------------------------------------------------------- /\ ----/' Nikola Smolenski - member of Team AMIGA smolensk@eunet.yu * *** NOVI SAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *** * From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 17 16:43:29 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19007 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:43:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00347 for amos-out; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00344 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from matrix.multiboard.com (root@matrix.multiboard.com [204.191.68.100]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25258 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:08:56 -0500 (EST) From: chrisevans@cubic.xg.com Received: from cubic.xg.com (multib@localhost) by matrix.multiboard.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id NAA18631 for amos-list@access.digex.net; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:13:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: matrix.multiboard.com: multib set sender to cubic.xg.com!chrisevans using -f Received: by bbs.multiboard.com (IG 1.0+ sn 1) via UUCP id AD619; 17 Mar 1997 13:05:42 EST5 Date: 17 Mar 97 12:37:00 EST5 Subject: bending walls - reply To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <08586039420021d619@bbs.multiboard.com> Organization: Cubic BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario +15196336357 Status: RO X-Status: > From: Lee S Howarth > Over the weekend I decided to write a raycasting based wolf > style engine in > AMOS to see how it would run and so after a couple of hours > coding I had a > "working" system where i could strafe and walking forwards and > backwards... > The problem is to do with the walls, they bend the closer they > get! (cut) > Thanking anybody in advance who can give me some help :-) Hi Lee, There was a great dungeon walk-through game engine on one of the club disks that I sold to Claude in Switzerland, nice and smooth and fast. Write him at: AESchlim@hei.unige.ch and ask him to look on the disk that I wrote "Dungeon" or "3D Dungeon" on the label, and I think it's in the dir called "Crook". ... and hi Claude! ... thx for helping out that other dude I sent after you several weeks ago. YOU'RE the source now! :-) -Chris. /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ | The views of the author are not of the originating system | \_______________________________________________________________/ Email: chrisevans@cubic.xg.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 18 08:41:01 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14838 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA03586 for amos-out; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:47:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03583 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA26672 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:47:35 -0500 (EST) Path: news2.digex.net!out2.nntp.cais.net!in1.nntp.cais.net!world2.bellatlantic.net!newsin.iconnet.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!nordwest.pop.de!news.hamburg.pop.de!news.hamburg.ecrc.net!news.berlin.ecrc.net!news.ecrc.de!news.mch.sni.de!rudi.HL.Siemens.DE!newsadm From: "Matthijs Hollemans (HL CAD FCA)" Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: AMOS: installing & updating query Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:33:40 +0100 Organization: SIEMENS AG BEREICH HALBLEITER Lines: 36 Message-ID: <332D1E04.6201DD56@KILLSPAM.hl.siemens.de> References: <5ge0v4$cm6$1@otis.netspace.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: wave.hl.siemens.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Xref: news2.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:111041 ReSent-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:47:33 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: Michael Day wrote: > My question: > Do I need to install 1.23, then 1.3 then 1.32 then 1.34 or can I just > go and update the first disk using the latest revision I have? > > A convenient alternative: > If anyone has a fully updated installation of AMOS I'd really > appreciate getting a copy. That'd be the easiest way instead of > tackling it myself. > > If anyone can help me I'd be very appreciative. Hmm, I believe the AMOS updates were Public Domain, so I guess you need to install 1.23 first. You might wanna look around for V1.36 which I think was the last update before they switched to Pro. V1.36 makes your program work correctly on AGA machines (although you can't code AGA programs), earlier versions don't. > > Thanks > > Michael -- . . .|||. /o_o\ Matthijs Hollemans \ O / /\_/\ . __// \\__ . mailto: hlmod@hl.siemens.de :()__/ ? \__(): REMOVE "KILLSPAM" FROM MY EMAIL ADDRESS TO MAIL ME! \_____/ | . | I am not responsible for whatever may happen to /__|__\ whomever, whenever. So there. |_..|.._| From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 18 09:23:38 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24466 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA03576 for amos-out; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03573 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA26494 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:46:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:46:56 -0500 (EST) From: AoD To: AMOS Mailing List Subject: dignet.library 2.2 (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Some people have asked about how to do games over the modem. Here is a library that can maybe be used with AMOS Pro? I am not sure but I thought I would pass it on if someone wants to take a look at it. Michael -- Michael Cox Work: michaelc@gsg.eds.com A1200/465/CD + 1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: mcox@access.digex.net For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! AMOS WWW: http://www.dragonfire.net/~amos/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:05:09 GMT From: Kenneth Nilsen Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce Subject: dignet.library 2.2 Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.programmer TITLE dignet.library VERSION 2.2 AUTHOR Kenneth "Kenny" Nilsen EMail: kenny@bgnett.no WWW: http://www.bgnett.no/~kenny/ DESCRIPTION This is a library that will make serial network handling easy. It contains a set of functions that will do most of the "dirty" work for you. All you need to do is to allocate a net and then read and write to/from that net. Net here is a device, for example serial.device or a compatible device (such as duart.device). You can with help from this library connect games and programs via nullmodem cable or modem in a relative comfortable way. The library have integrated resource tracking. The resource tracking allow you to free memory, ports, device that is used by a program that crashes or terminates without a cleanup. The resource tracking also prevents that you free a invalid pointer to a net. Archive includes developer information and a demo terminal program that uses the dignet.library. Some of the important features of this library: - resource tracking (from v2.1). - should be painless to use, straight forward. - string/text/binary support (all-in-one) - possibility for more advanced uses (eg. with Wait()) - fully re-entrant (more connections open at the same time) - comes with a default setting that works for most needs - easy to change default parameters - fast routines (written in assembler). - safe to call functions even with faulty arguments (such as read/write null byte). Read the autodoc for more information. SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS Required: OS2.04 or better AVAILABILITY Aminet ftp://ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk/aminet/util/libs/DigNet_2.1.lha User files http://www.bgnett.no/~kenny/ (soon) Source code Includes source code for a terminal program that uses dignet.library. Source code of DignetTERM is public domain. PRICE Free DISTRIBUTABILITY Distributed as freeware. Special notes: Freeware authors: The library file can be distributed as a standalone file in your own archive as long as you include a credit (read autodoc). If credit is unsuitable you can distribute the whole archive as it came from AmiNet in your own archive. Shareware/Commercial authors can also include the file as a standalone file, but they should under any circumstances include a visable credit in their programs. If the library do more than 20% of the functionallity in the program the library is not allowed to be used without a license agreement. Shareware/commercial authors can buy them self free from the credit requirement in their programs. Take contact for more information. dignet.library is Copyright (c)1997 by Kenneth "Kenny" Nilsen/ Digital Surface. -- Read all the administrative text before sending your announcement. Mailing List: announce-request@cs.ucdavis.edu Moderator: casper@innocent.com http://seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu/~zerkle/announce Posts: announce@cs.ucdavis.edu From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 18 12:01:28 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22940 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08049 for amos-out; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08046 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (golden.org [199.166.210.2]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25254 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (Giark@cisco2-116.golden.net [207.6.168.116]) by golden.net (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA23810 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:29:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:33:09 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <08586039420021d619@bbs.multiboard.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: bending walls - reply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 17-Mar-97, chrisevans@cubic.xg.com wrote: >There was a great dungeon walk-through game engine on one of the club disks >that I sold to Claude in Switzerland, nice and smooth and fast. Write him at: >AESchlim@hei.unige.ch The March 97 Amiga Format (CD#11) contains the complete source code for alien breed 3d II the killing grounds. A lot of it is in AMOS! They say that it is freeware and anyone can use the code. Anyone want it? Well met and godspeed, Giark joehick@golden.net http://www.golden.net/~joehick/fbn/index.html ______ ______ _____ .------------------------------------------. / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ! AMOS games, utilities, demos, etc. ! / /__ / /_/ / / / / / ! ! / ___/ / ___ | / / / / ! CyberSpace BBS (519)579-0072 ! / / / /__/ / / / / / ! on A2000 060/50MHz (519)579-0173 ! /_/ /______/ /_/ /_/ ! ! Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! ! FBN Amiga 500 020 14MHz 1C/5F RAM 3.1OS ! `------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 18 10:40:42 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15184 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10302 for amos-out; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10297 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA27079 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17817 invoked from network); 18 Mar 1997 14:48:15 -0000 Received: from du169-92.ppp.algonet.se (krl@195.100.92.169) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 18 Mar 1997 14:48:15 -0000 Date: 18 Mar 97 15:33:37 +0100 From: Kent Larsson Subject: Re: bending walls - reply To: chrisevans In-Reply-To: <08586039420021d619@bbs.multiboard.com> Message-ID: <599.7016T933T1877@algonet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Info: Amiga, still the only choise for true multitasking and multimedia. X-Info: If you can read this, then your program can read mailheaders :) X-Mailer: THOR 2.4 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Status: RO X-Status: A reply to chrisevans (chrisevans@cubic.xg.com) > ... and hi Claude! ... thx for helping out that other dude I sent after you > several weeks ago. YOU'RE the source now! :-) Not quite yet. If good old Claude doesn't find the Amiga GameMakers manual disk (written by Stephen Hill, from Sigma) I'm gonna annoy *you* until I get it ;) --- - Kent Larsson Nick: @Larsson krl@algonet.se IRC: AmigaSwe PGP key available. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 18 18:50:08 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29014 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:50:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03919 for amos-out; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03916 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (uv334@vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca [199.60.222.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18872 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uv334@localhost) by vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07908; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:42:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:42:06 -0800 (PST) From: John Bintz Sender: John Bintz Reply-To: John Bintz Subject: Raycasting for Beginners (was Bending Walls) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Well, Mr. Howarth should be commended for trying a raycaster. I remember when I was tring very desparately to figure out how to make one. Fortunately, I found a book that kinda explained it. After some work, though, I finally figured out how to write a fast and accurate ray caster. The way Lee put it, he wrote a very simple, non-trig version of a raycaster. He got the concept of "raycasting" down, its just not useful the way he coded it. To hame a truly 3D game (at least a #D representation of a 2D map), he needs Math. And, as Sinbad says, "Math is Power". Here is a copy of my original "I Have A Few Tricks Up My Sleeve..." page. The part about Wolf-3D like raycasters. If its too big (8k?) then feel free to complain. Here it is... RayCasting and Texture Mapping -- John Bintz, 3D Master 8^) So, you want to write Doom-like games in your spare time? I'm warning you: once you know how to do this stuff, you'll probably never write another game with just 2D graphics again...EVER! Here is a very loose algorithm for raycasting and texture mapping: Precompute math tables Create a map Create some textures While your game is running # For each ray in your field of view ## Cast a ray, detecting horizontal and vertical intersections with blocks ## Find out the shortest distance to yourself ## from the horizontal & vertical intersections ## Fix the depth of the ray depending on the view angle ## Determine the height of the wall ## Choose a sliver from the texture and zoom it to the appropriate size # Move the little guy around Now, I'll describe all of these in excruciating detail: Precompute Math Tables For my method of raycasting, you need to know Sines and Cosines of angles. These are computed by the computer and stored as floating point, which, as all programmers know, is extremely accurate yet excruciatingly slow. We need to make them fixed point...not as accurate, but sometimes at least 3 or 4 times faster. How many degrees will you have to compute? Well, this will involve that difficult technique known as the ratio. What you need to know is the screen resolution horizontally, the number of total angles, and the number of angles in your viewing plane. Your view plane is the number of angles cast out from your current position to the walls. If you wanted to stick with easy stuff, have the number of rays cast out equal to the degrees in your view plane...fast, but blocky. You can use this formula to find out how many angles to put into the tables: Angles=(360*Rays to cast)/View Angle If you wanted to fill all the lines on the screen, the formula would look like this: Angles=(360*320)/60 Giving the result of 1920 angles. You could use floating point math to find out how much each angle will actually measure from 0 to 359, but you can do that on your own. Fixing the angles simply requires you to multiply the floating point number by a fixed point number, therefore making another fixed point number. I like using 512, just for the heck of it. Fill your table with fixed trig numbers, and move on to Step 2... Create A Map This shouldn't be too hard--just an array of elements you can fill with any numbers you want...have them correspond to the texture to map to the walls, or the light level of each wall. Just make empty space a value of zero. Cast A Ray This is where you can pretty much think of your own way to do things. Here's an example from QBasic (ICK! GAG!! RETCH!!!) that is pretty good. It should be readily convertable to other languages, Amos Basic being the most obvious: FUNCTION newcast (x, y, ang) angle = (ang + 360) MOD 360 corner = 0 ' 'Some Readily Used Values ' IF ang > 90 AND ang yadj = halfbsize ELSE yadj = -halfbsize END IF IF ang > 0 AND ang xadj = halfbsize ELSE xadj = -halfbsize END IF ' 'This is the X Casting. It looks for intersections on the X (horizontal) axis. ' IF gcos(angle) = 0 THEN xdepth = 1E+10 ELSE IF ang > 90 AND ang ybound = INT(y / bsize) * bsize + bsize ydelta = bsize ELSE ybound = INT(y / bsize) * bsize ydelta = -bsize END IF casting = -1 DO ydist = ybound - y depth = (ydist * 512) / gcos(angle) xdist = (depth * gsin(angle)) / 512 dx = INT((x - xdist) / bsize) IF dx >= 0 AND dx IF map(dx, INT((ybound + yadj) / bsize)) > 0 THEN casting = 0 xdepth = ABS(depth) xsliv = ABS(x - xdist) MOD bsize ELSE ybound = ybound + ydelta END IF ELSE casting = 0 xdepth = 1E+10 END IF LOOP UNTIL NOT casting END IF ' 'The Y Casting Comes Next, looking for Vertical intersections ' IF gsin(angle) = 0 THEN ydepth = 1E+10 ELSE IF ang > 0 AND ang xbound = INT(x / bsize) * bsize + bsize xdelta = bsize ELSE xbound = INT(x / bsize) * bsize xdelta = -bsize END IF casting = -1 DO xdist = xbound - x depth = (xdist * 512) / gsin(angle) ydist = (depth * gcos(angle)) / 512 dy = INT((y - ydist) / bsize) IF dy >= 0 AND dy IF map(INT((xbound + xadj) / bsize), dy) > 0 THEN casting = 0 ydepth = ABS(depth) ysliv = ABS(y - ydist) MOD bsize ELSE xbound = xbound + xdelta END IF ELSE casting = 0 ydepth = 1E+10 END IF LOOP UNTIL NOT casting END IF ' 'This picks which depth to use, depending on which is closest ' IF xdepth newcast = xdepth IF xsliv = 0 THEN corner = -1 ELSE newcast = ydepth IF ysliv = 0 THEN corner = -1 END IF END FUNCTION I'm sorry if that wasn't too well explained, but its a very difficult topic to explain. Just pick up "Tricks of the Game Programming Gurus" by Andrew LaMothe, and you'll be even more confused!. Try to pick your way through it the best that you can. If I can hire someone to explain it better, I will; otherwise, fry some brain cells over my Basic code. Fix the depth Any idiot with a major in Mathematics will know there's a slight problem with this routine. Think about it...OK, enough thinking. Here's the problem: When you cast your rays out, you're doing it in a circle. When they hit, they're working in a rectangular plane. The fix? Make your rectangular world a circular world, or make your circular world a rectangular one. The first one is easier: Simply multiply the depth by the cosine of the current view angle. If your view angle is -10 of your current facing angle, and the depth is 35, then you'd multiply the cosine of -10 (precomputed, I hope!) by 35, and get 34. Big deal! Try -30 and 60, at the furthest reaches of your view plane. The result is 51, a very signifigant fix (with two signifigant digits!). But remember: the angle you use is RELATIVE to the angle your guy is facing. Not to be sexist, but you can be a girl, too. Draw the Sliver, with or without Textures This part is pretty easy compared to the others: You need the fixed depth and the size of HALF of your wall. To get the new HALF size of your wall, try this: New HALF Size=Normal HALF Size/Depth Now, simply subtract from half your display and add to half your display that value, and your wall can be plotted. A command like: Cls 15,X,100-NHS to X+1,100+NHS will do the trick nicely. For those who want texture mapping, you should save that XSLIV or YSLIV value in the code above, as this tells you what sliver on the texture to use. If your blocks are 64 pixels large, then the sliver value will be from 0 to 63. Then, simply use a Zoom-like command to put it at its appropriate size: Zoom 1,SLIV,0,SLIV+1,63 to 0,X,100-NHS,X+1,100+NHS Hope this helps! #@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@ John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca * @#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@# Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software! http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html *#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*# From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Mar 18 18:50:08 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29014 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:50:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03919 for amos-out; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03916 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (uv334@vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca [199.60.222.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18872 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uv334@localhost) by vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07908; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:42:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:42:06 -0800 (PST) From: John Bintz Sender: John Bintz Reply-To: John Bintz Subject: Raycasting for Beginners (was Bending Walls) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Well, Mr. Howarth should be commended for trying a raycaster. I remember when I was tring very desparately to figure out how to make one. Fortunately, I found a book that kinda explained it. After some work, though, I finally figured out how to write a fast and accurate ray caster. The way Lee put it, he wrote a very simple, non-trig version of a raycaster. He got the concept of "raycasting" down, its just not useful the way he coded it. To hame a truly 3D game (at least a #D representation of a 2D map), he needs Math. And, as Sinbad says, "Math is Power". Here is a copy of my original "I Have A Few Tricks Up My Sleeve..." page. The part about Wolf-3D like raycasters. If its too big (8k?) then feel free to complain. Here it is... RayCasting and Texture Mapping -- John Bintz, 3D Master 8^) So, you want to write Doom-like games in your spare time? I'm warning you: once you know how to do this stuff, you'll probably never write another game with just 2D graphics again...EVER! Here is a very loose algorithm for raycasting and texture mapping: Precompute math tables Create a map Create some textures While your game is running # For each ray in your field of view ## Cast a ray, detecting horizontal and vertical intersections with blocks ## Find out the shortest distance to yourself ## from the horizontal & vertical intersections ## Fix the depth of the ray depending on the view angle ## Determine the height of the wall ## Choose a sliver from the texture and zoom it to the appropriate size # Move the little guy around Now, I'll describe all of these in excruciating detail: Precompute Math Tables For my method of raycasting, you need to know Sines and Cosines of angles. These are computed by the computer and stored as floating point, which, as all programmers know, is extremely accurate yet excruciatingly slow. We need to make them fixed point...not as accurate, but sometimes at least 3 or 4 times faster. How many degrees will you have to compute? Well, this will involve that difficult technique known as the ratio. What you need to know is the screen resolution horizontally, the number of total angles, and the number of angles in your viewing plane. Your view plane is the number of angles cast out from your current position to the walls. If you wanted to stick with easy stuff, have the number of rays cast out equal to the degrees in your view plane...fast, but blocky. You can use this formula to find out how many angles to put into the tables: Angles=(360*Rays to cast)/View Angle If you wanted to fill all the lines on the screen, the formula would look like this: Angles=(360*320)/60 Giving the result of 1920 angles. You could use floating point math to find out how much each angle will actually measure from 0 to 359, but you can do that on your own. Fixing the angles simply requires you to multiply the floating point number by a fixed point number, therefore making another fixed point number. I like using 512, just for the heck of it. Fill your table with fixed trig numbers, and move on to Step 2... Create A Map This shouldn't be too hard--just an array of elements you can fill with any numbers you want...have them correspond to the texture to map to the walls, or the light level of each wall. Just make empty space a value of zero. Cast A Ray This is where you can pretty much think of your own way to do things. Here's an example from QBasic (ICK! GAG!! RETCH!!!) that is pretty good. It should be readily convertable to other languages, Amos Basic being the most obvious: FUNCTION newcast (x, y, ang) angle = (ang + 360) MOD 360 corner = 0 ' 'Some Readily Used Values ' IF ang > 90 AND ang yadj = halfbsize ELSE yadj = -halfbsize END IF IF ang > 0 AND ang xadj = halfbsize ELSE xadj = -halfbsize END IF ' 'This is the X Casting. It looks for intersections on the X (horizontal) axis. ' IF gcos(angle) = 0 THEN xdepth = 1E+10 ELSE IF ang > 90 AND ang ybound = INT(y / bsize) * bsize + bsize ydelta = bsize ELSE ybound = INT(y / bsize) * bsize ydelta = -bsize END IF casting = -1 DO ydist = ybound - y depth = (ydist * 512) / gcos(angle) xdist = (depth * gsin(angle)) / 512 dx = INT((x - xdist) / bsize) IF dx >= 0 AND dx IF map(dx, INT((ybound + yadj) / bsize)) > 0 THEN casting = 0 xdepth = ABS(depth) xsliv = ABS(x - xdist) MOD bsize ELSE ybound = ybound + ydelta END IF ELSE casting = 0 xdepth = 1E+10 END IF LOOP UNTIL NOT casting END IF ' 'The Y Casting Comes Next, looking for Vertical intersections ' IF gsin(angle) = 0 THEN ydepth = 1E+10 ELSE IF ang > 0 AND ang xbound = INT(x / bsize) * bsize + bsize xdelta = bsize ELSE xbound = INT(x / bsize) * bsize xdelta = -bsize END IF casting = -1 DO xdist = xbound - x depth = (xdist * 512) / gsin(angle) ydist = (depth * gcos(angle)) / 512 dy = INT((y - ydist) / bsize) IF dy >= 0 AND dy IF map(INT((xbound + xadj) / bsize), dy) > 0 THEN casting = 0 ydepth = ABS(depth) ysliv = ABS(y - ydist) MOD bsize ELSE xbound = xbound + xdelta END IF ELSE casting = 0 ydepth = 1E+10 END IF LOOP UNTIL NOT casting END IF ' 'This picks which depth to use, depending on which is closest ' IF xdepth newcast = xdepth IF xsliv = 0 THEN corner = -1 ELSE newcast = ydepth IF ysliv = 0 THEN corner = -1 END IF END FUNCTION I'm sorry if that wasn't too well explained, but its a very difficult topic to explain. Just pick up "Tricks of the Game Programming Gurus" by Andrew LaMothe, and you'll be even more confused!. Try to pick your way through it the best that you can. If I can hire someone to explain it better, I will; otherwise, fry some brain cells over my Basic code. Fix the depth Any idiot with a major in Mathematics will know there's a slight problem with this routine. Think about it...OK, enough thinking. Here's the problem: When you cast your rays out, you're doing it in a circle. When they hit, they're working in a rectangular plane. The fix? Make your rectangular world a circular world, or make your circular world a rectangular one. The first one is easier: Simply multiply the depth by the cosine of the current view angle. If your view angle is -10 of your current facing angle, and the depth is 35, then you'd multiply the cosine of -10 (precomputed, I hope!) by 35, and get 34. Big deal! Try -30 and 60, at the furthest reaches of your view plane. The result is 51, a very signifigant fix (with two signifigant digits!). But remember: the angle you use is RELATIVE to the angle your guy is facing. Not to be sexist, but you can be a girl, too. Draw the Sliver, with or without Textures This part is pretty easy compared to the others: You need the fixed depth and the size of HALF of your wall. To get the new HALF size of your wall, try this: New HALF Size=Normal HALF Size/Depth Now, simply subtract from half your display and add to half your display that value, and your wall can be plotted. A command like: Cls 15,X,100-NHS to X+1,100+NHS will do the trick nicely. For those who want texture mapping, you should save that XSLIV or YSLIV value in the code above, as this tells you what sliver on the texture to use. If your blocks are 64 pixels large, then the sliver value will be from 0 to 63. Then, simply use a Zoom-like command to put it at its appropriate size: Zoom 1,SLIV,0,SLIV+1,63 to 0,X,100-NHS,X+1,100+NHS Hope this helps! #@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@ John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca * @#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@# Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software! http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html *#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*# From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 19 05:04:25 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23705 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 05:04:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA21258 for amos-out; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 03:33:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21251 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 03:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from sol.labein.es (sol.labein.es [150.241.6.51]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03613 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 03:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ean@localhost) by sol.labein.es (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA02757 for amos-list@access.digex.net; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:30:48 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: sol.labein.es: ean set sender to angel@labein.es using -f Date: 19 Mar 97 9:30 +0100 From: Angel Alvarez To: Message-ID: <688*angel@labein.es> Subject: Re: bending walls - reply Status: RO X-Status: On Tue Mar 18 20:17:51 1997, "Mr. Giark To You" wrote: > The March 97 Amiga Format (CD#11) contains the complete source code for alien > breed 3d II the killing grounds. A lot of it is in AMOS! They say that it is > freeware and anyone can use the code. Anyone want it? And now, it is on Aminet!!! a3dsrc1.lha dev/asm 6.3M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ [1/6 a3dsrc2.lha dev/asm 5.1M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ [2/6 a3dsrc3.lha dev/asm 4.7M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ [3/6 a3dsrc4.lha dev/asm 3.5M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ [4/6 a3dsrc5.lha dev/asm 2.8M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ [5/6 a3dsrc6.lha dev/asm 1.8M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ [6/6 Total = 24.2M!!! The question is: And the game is freeware too? Recompile all the source could be veru hard. ============================================================================== _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Angel Alvarez _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ (Aldi Soft) _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ angel@labein.es _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ============================================================================== From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 19 11:14:39 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08149 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00949 for amos-out; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00946 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (golden.org [199.166.210.2]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28678 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (Giark@cisco8-214.golden.net [207.216.76.214]) by golden.net (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA03780 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:49:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:53:57 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <688*angel@labein.es> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: bending walls - reply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 19-Mar-97, Angel Alvarez wrote: >On Tue Mar 18 20:17:51 1997, "Mr. Giark To You" wrote: >> The March 97 Amiga Format (CD#11) contains the complete source code for >alien >> breed 3d II the killing grounds. A lot of it is in AMOS! They say that it is >> freeware and anyone can use the code. Anyone want it? >And now, it is on Aminet!!! >a3dsrc1.lha dev/asm 6.3M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ >[1/6 >a3dsrc2.lha dev/asm 5.1M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ >[2/6 >a3dsrc3.lha dev/asm 4.7M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ >[3/6 >a3dsrc4.lha dev/asm 3.5M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ >[4/6 >a3dsrc5.lha dev/asm 2.8M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ >[5/6 >a3dsrc6.lha dev/asm 1.8M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ >[6/6 >Total = 24.2M!!! >The question is: And the game is freeware too? Recompile all the source could >be veru hard. The only restriction is that you can't use the source to make a COMMERCIAL game. I'm going to try to compile it for ECS so all us oldstyle miggers can play it, as it was the best 3d dungeon type game ever! BTW, the full archive is over 60 megs uncompressed. I don't know if aminet has it all. The amos stuff is only about 1 meg, though. The linker and 256 color display stuff is in amos. Well met and godspeed, Giark joehick@golden.net http://www.golden.net/~joehick/fbn/index.html ______ ______ _____ .------------------------------------------. / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ! AMOS games, utilities, demos, etc. ! / /__ / /_/ / / / / / ! ! / ___/ / ___ | / / / / ! CyberSpace BBS (519)579-0072 ! / / / /__/ / / / / / ! on A2000 060/50MHz (519)579-0173 ! /_/ /______/ /_/ /_/ ! ! Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! ! FBN Amiga 500 020 14MHz 1C/5F RAM 3.1OS ! `------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 19 14:22:11 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00937 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06149 for amos-out; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06144 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:33:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10392 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:33:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from h156.redrose.net ([208.7.248.156]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ab0521409; 19 Mar 97 16:18 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@sdps.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Mush Subject: AMOSPro help gag Message-ID: <858788330.0521409.0@h156.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: I spotted this just a minute ago. If you type in DEFAULT, go to a new line (so AMOS converts it), and go back up, to the very end of the word (the space after the last letter) and hit HELP, the online-help brings up a comment on a certain crap footy team. Just a crap piece of information, from me `cos im bored out of my face! Andy Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 19 13:20:37 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25411 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06965 for amos-out; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06962 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA12511 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:49:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from h156.redrose.net ([208.7.248.156]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ab0520130; 19 Mar 97 16:16 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@sdps.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Mush Subject: Raycasting Games Message-ID: <858788210.0520130.0@h156.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: Could someone point me to some good AMOS raycasting source code? I have tried to program a raycaster before, It ended up I was sat at my Amiga, with a notepad full of notes on possible ways I could do it, and I still came up with diddly squat. hehe Andy Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 19 14:30:08 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08011 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07305 for amos-out; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07302 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA15447 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:13:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from h156.redrose.net ([208.7.248.156]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0519390; 19 Mar 97 16:15 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@sdps.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Mush Subject: Mushroom Disk 16 Message-ID: <858788134.0519390.0@h156.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: Does anyone out here have a fully working copy of this disk? Its collection of 3 chip demo`s I wrote and compiled the engine in AMOS. Each demo has 26 music tunes, which are activated by pressing the keys A-Z. If anyone has this disk, please email it to me at mpd@mushy-pd.demon.co.uk Andrew Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 19 14:41:59 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02832 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:41:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11725 for amos-out; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11722 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA02177 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:06:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.168.244] by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.61 #2) id 0w7Pke-00007e-00; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:06:16 +0000 Received: from PMN1/MERCURYQ by pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 19 Mar 97 18:06:23 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURYQ by PMN1 (Mercury 1.21); 19 Mar 97 18:05:58 GMT0BST From: "--==MURRAY==--" Organization: Maths, The University of Nottingham To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:05:49 GMT0BST Subject: AB 3D source code X-Confirm-Reading-To: "--==MURRAY==--" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: > >And now, it is on Aminet!!! > >a3dsrc1.lha dev/asm 6.3M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ > >[1/6 > >a3dsrc2.lha dev/asm 5.1M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ > >[2/6 > >a3dsrc3.lha dev/asm 4.7M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ > >[3/6 > >a3dsrc4.lha dev/asm 3.5M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ > >[4/6 > >a3dsrc5.lha dev/asm 2.8M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ > >[5/6 > >a3dsrc6.lha dev/asm 1.8M 2+Alien Breed 3d II _Full sourcecode_ > >[6/6 > >Total = 24.2M!!! Can anyone tell me which one of these HUGE archives, the AMOS stuff is actually on. I can't really download all of them and check each one very easily... Thanks -Murray \\|// (o o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Alastair Murray : pmymagm@pmn1.maths.nott.ac.uk Web Page : http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm/ (inc. AMOS+Music) ***** Please Sign My Guestbook!!!!! ***** --------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 20 02:48:19 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14788 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA10520 for amos-out; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 01:48:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10517 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 01:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from link.net.mt (link.link.net.mt [194.73.234.190]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA15721 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 01:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.link.net.mt (holqa204.link.net.mt [194.73.234.68]) by link.net.mt (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA06975 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 07:48:08 +0100 (GMT) From: Aaron Bonnici Reply-To: aaron@mail.link.net.mt (Aaron Bonnici) To: AMOS Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 07:48:27 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: 3D-AMOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hi Everyone, I was wondering if somebody could help me with some problems that I have. I am using Amos3D to write a game. Now when I`m using the Sam Play to play a sample from a bank of the missile firing sometimes the computer would go on playing the sample irrelevant of wether the missile has been fired.I have included Sam Loop Off in the begging of the program, is it abug in AmosPro or is there a way round it? Also is there a way to get round the limitation of AMOS 3D displaying only in 16 colours? Thank you in advance Aaron Bonnici aaron@mail.link.net.mt From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 20 05:37:32 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18815 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 05:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA13248 for amos-out; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13245 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapman.karlskrona.se (chapman.karlskrona.se [194.52.186.130]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19598 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from gandalf ([10.10.10.24]) by chapman.karlskrona.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00959 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:09:07 +0100 Message-ID: <3330FE80.5DF2@Chapman.karlskrona.se> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:08:16 +0100 From: Goran Cengic Reply-To: gorane@chapman.karlskrona.se Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AMOS List Subject: I'm basck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Hi everybody, There was some problems with the e-mail because school changed network. Paul Hickman if you are reading drop me a line about sources. From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 20 06:42:37 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20130 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA13272 for amos-out; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13269 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from f12.hotmail.com (F12.hotmail.com [207.82.250.23]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19715 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by f12.hotmail.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA20238; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 01:11:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 01:11:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703200911.BAA20238@f12.hotmail.com> Received: from 193.214.146.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 01:11:53 PST X-Originating-IP: [193.214.146.22] From: " Ragnar Fyri" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Cc: tilbake@hotmail.com Subject: Keep on trucking (!) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="====================987654321_0==_" X-Attachment: Truck.txt Status: RO X-Status: --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain; name="Truck.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Truck.txt" Just for a little change of pace, here's a little program I whipped up some time back while playing with the idea of making a FORKLIFT game. (Is this guy crazy or what? What.) You will probably use less time watching it than decoding it. The comments are in Norwegian. 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M*0``"`$>V@!4$IX`/@```#(```8!$](`/@````,```T!!'8`)@`05&5S="!FO M:6YI5MDRM=J>-MF2M5J?-LR2LDJ))O_^```````````VF MW%MD?[@W_%MT?]@W?%NT?M@S;$VT=M@``/_^@0+__@__"'<*K0``#P``\``/` M!F8%50,S!S,#; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19624 for amos-out; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:12:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19621 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:12:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.thenet.co.uk (root@fornax.thenet.co.uk [207.0.150.200]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10929 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from thenet.co.uk by mailhost.thenet.co.uk (8.8.2/FCI Sendmail Config v1.0) id VAA00730; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:12:15 GMT From: neil Bramwell To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:11:08 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <599.7016T933T1877@algonet.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Game maker's manual MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 18-Mar-97, Kent Larsson wrote: >A reply to chrisevans (chrisevans@cubic.xg.com) >Not quite yet. If good old Claude doesn't find the Amiga GameMakers manual >disk (written by Stephen Hill, from Sigma) I'm gonna annoy *you* until I get >it ;) Some months ago I found a copy of the above named book, and managed to get a copy of the disk from stephen himself. From what he said in his letter it was the only disc he had left as his amiga died on him some time ago. Most of the source code is O.K save for 1 or 2 of the examples. Anyway to the point- I would gladly copy the disc for anyone who wants it or if anyone has a full working copy you could let me know. bramwell@thenet.co.uk From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 20 09:27:28 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05402 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA17268 for amos-out; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17265 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:59:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from amalthea.salford.ac.uk (amalthea.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.61]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24472 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from cms-notes-a.salford.ac.uk by amalthea.salford.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:58:56 +0000 Received: by cms-notes-a.salford.ac.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (305.3 1-15-1997)) id 80256460.0041E0A0 ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:59:33 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: UNIVERSITY OF SALFORD From: Lee S Howarth To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <80256460.004096A2.00@cms-notes-a.salford.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:56:25 +0100 Subject: bending walls! objects? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Thanks to John Bintz for the details on how to solve my bending walls problem, I`ll soon have it implemented and see what its like :-) The other problem I am now considering is that of other characters in the game(enemys, pick ups etc) and how(of if) the raycasting can be used to pick up the presence of objects. I suppose another layer of data containg set bits for certain objects can be used but is sorting them and clipping them into the scene that seems difficult, anybody have any clues?? I am also doing the floor rendering code now, I am trying to use the raycasting to get the floor data from a layer and using a simple divide by the distance to get the placement on the rendered screen. I don`t know if this method will work but I`ll give it a try :-) I have got the source code for AB3dII-TKG off the cu amiga cd(last months) and i have got "WORKING.S" to compile in devpac but the damn thing won`t run. The executable from the compilation is about 900k (consideribly bigger than the original, but it does contain gfx ) and when run it just loads for a couple of seconds and then stops and returns. Anybody have any ideas on which is the actual exectuable u should be trying to compile or is there something I should know about the one i am compiling?? I have all the files it looks for in the right direcotries and snoopdos doesn`t show and form of file access when the exe is run.!?! argh ;-) Thanks in advance, Lee From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 20 16:03:18 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06688 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:03:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12470 for amos-out; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12467 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from dub-img-7.compuserve.com (dub-img-7.compuserve.com [149.174.206.137]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA09705 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by dub-img-7.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id OAA12977; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:35:41 -0500 Date: 20 Mar 97 14:34:08 EST From: Christopher Kossa <103344.664@compuserve.com> To: AMOS List Subject: 3D game books Message-ID: <970320193407_103344.664_JHL50-1@CompuServe.COM> Status: RO X-Status: I believe there are several books out that have about programming 3D games. Many of them have all sorts of codes in C or C++. Which if you know alittle bit about C/C++, you might be able to write it in AMOS. I think there's also a book for programming 3D game in (gulp) Visual Basic. That should be easier to translate. Hope this helps... CK From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 20 13:53:32 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24338 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26921 for amos-out; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26918 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA08475 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.168.244] by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.61 #2) id 0w7kEZ-0000S4-00; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:58:31 +0000 Received: from PMN1/MERCURYQ by pmn1.maths.nottingham.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 20 Mar 97 15:58:35 GMT0BST Received: from MERCURYQ by PMN1 (Mercury 1.21); 20 Mar 97 15:58:14 GMT0BST From: "--==MURRAY==--" Organization: Maths, The University of Nottingham To: aaron@mail.link.net.mt, amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:58:14 GMT0BST Subject: Re: 3D-AMOS X-Confirm-Reading-To: "--==MURRAY==--" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.2 (R0) Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: > Now when I`m using the Sam Play to play a sample from a bank of the missile > firing sometimes the > computer would go on playing the sample irrelevant of wether the missile has > been fired.I have > included Sam Loop Off in the begging of the program, is it abug in AmosPro or > is there a way round it? Have you played a Tracker or MED track before the sound effect? I find that once I play either of these types of tracks (meaning the respective library is loaded in), any sounds played thereafter will autorepeat forever. -Murray \\|// (o o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Alastair Murray : pmymagm@pmn1.maths.nott.ac.uk Web Page : http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm/ (inc. AMOS+Music) ***** Please Sign My Guestbook!!!!! ***** --------------------------------------------------------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 20 19:07:18 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21801 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA20717 for amos-out; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20708 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (uv334@vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca [199.60.222.1]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21990 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uv334@localhost) by vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24163; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:40:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:40:04 -0800 (PST) From: John Bintz Sender: John Bintz Reply-To: John Bintz Subject: Re: bending walls! objects? To: Lee S Howarth cc: amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: <80256460.004096A2.00@cms-notes-a.salford.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id QAA20713 Status: RO X-Status: Here is the code direct from my raycaster. Here's how it works... * Object 1-Y Distance from You-Object (Have) |\ 2-X Distance from You-Object (Have) | \ 3-Real Distance from You-Object (Need) | \ 4-Angle From You-Object, North being 0° (Need) 1| \3 | \ | 4\ |______# You 2 You can use Atan(Y/X) to get the Angle, and then Side1/Sin(Ang) or Side2/Cos(Ang) to get the distance. The Pythagorean Theorem (S1ē+S2ē=S3ē) is too slow for a raycaster, but this isn't much better... Procedure ENEMY ' 'A good bit of trig is used here. For the next version, I will 'create a fast Fixed Point Atan() function, but that can wait. ' CORDER=-1 For I=0 To MXENEMY EXDIST#=ENEMY(I,0)-CURRX EYDIST#=ENEMY(I,1)-CURRY DX=Int(EXDIST#) : DY=Int(EYDIST#) If DY=0 If DX>0 ENEMYANG#=90 Else ENEMYANG#=-90 End If HYP=Abs(DX) Else If DX=0 If DY<0 ENEMYANG#=0 Else ENEMYANG#=180 End If HYP=Abs(DY) Else XX#=Abs(EXDIST#) : XY#=Abs(EYDIST#) ENEMYANG#=Abs(Atan(XY#/XX#)) D=Int(ENEMYANG#) If EXDIST#>0 If EYDIST#>0 ENEMYANG#=ENEMYANG#+90 Else ENEMYANG#=90-ENEMYANG# End If Else If EYDIST#<0 ENEMYANG#=ENEMYANG#-90 Else ENEMYANG#=(90-ENEMYANG#)-180 End If End If ENANG=Int(ENEMYANG#) ENANG=(ENANG+360) mod 360 GTCOS[CANG((ENANG+360) mod 360)] : UCOS=Param If UCOS=0 HYP=Abs(DX#) Else HYP=Abs((XY#*32767)/UCOS) End If End If End If ENANG=Int(ENEMYANG#) ENANG=(ENANG+360) mod 360 X#=CENTANG : Y#=ENEMYANG# If CENTANG>180 X#=CENTANG-360 End If VANG#=Y#-X# FX=-1 If VANG#>-30 and VANG#<30 ENANG=Int(VANG#) XWHERE=((VANG#+30)*320)/60 If XWHERE>-1 and XWHERE<320 ZBUFF=Deek(Start(13)+(XWHERE*2))+5 If ZBUFF>HYP FX=1000/(HYP+1) If FX<100 and FX>1 Inc CORDER EORDER(CORDER,0)=I EORDER(CORDER,1)=FX EORDER(CORDER,2)=XWHERE End If End If End If End If ENWEAP(I,0)=XWHERE-4 ENWEAP(I,1)=FX ENWEAP(I,2)=XWHERE+FX+4 Next If CORDER>-1 If CORDER=0 and FX>1 and FX<100 YWHERE=100+FX YTOP=100-FX XSIZE=FX If ENEMY(EORDER(0,0),2)=$FFFF SX=160 Else SX=128 End If Zoom 7,SX,0,SX+31,31 To 6,0,0,FX,FX*2 Screen 6 : Get Block 1,0,0,FX,FX*2,1 Screen 0 : Put Block 1,XWHERE+XSIZE-(FX/2),YTOP Else For I=0 To CORDER DIST=$FFFF For J=0 To CORDER If EORDER(J,1); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04103 for amos-out; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04100 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA29686 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:52:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from h169.redrose.net ([208.7.248.169]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0918071; 21 Mar 97 2:49 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Mush Subject: 3D Gaming books Message-ID: <858912545.0918071.0@h169.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: Hi there, just some useless information. Ive purchased a book named "Tricks of the game programming guru`s" which is all about making Doom type games. It has a CD ROM on the front of it with all kinds of source. I will list them here, so if anyone would like them, then please let me know. * Warloack, a hot 3-D adventure framework created especially for the book. Working from the foundations laid by Warlock, you can create your own awesome 3D shoot em up! * All the source code, libraries, utilities, and support files used in the book. The games include DOOM V1.2, wolfenstein 3D, Blake Stone, Traffic Department 2192 and Pinball supet android. * Digipack, and Midipak developers kit, by John Ratcliff. Allows MIDI playback on all soundcards. The basic software from the CD ROM takes up 40Mb disk space, but ZIP or LZX may crunch it down, plus if I remove the rubbish, I could maybe get it down to around 5-10Mb. I will cut out certain bits if you would like them Andy Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 21 07:58:21 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20158 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA12507 for amos-out; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 05:23:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA12504 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 05:23:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from abingdon.geoquest.slb.com (sun-sparc1.abingdon.geoquest.slb.com [134.32.146.198]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA10852 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 05:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc-rms ([134.32.146.133]) by abingdon.geoquest.slb.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12605; Fri, 21 Mar 97 10:22:55 GMT Message-Id: <3332613A.24BC@abingdon.geoquest.slb.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:21:46 +0000 From: Richard Michael Smith Organization: Geoquest X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Am-Tank Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: I'm Back!!!! Greetings fellow AMOS Lovers/Users! I know I have been a quiet wee bunny...but now I am back in full force and ready to rock and roll. Ho-hum. If you will indulge me for a moment, I would just like to wish a be-lated congratulations to the one known as Mush - Congrats! (Oh, and nice work on the pages!) Right, for those who do not know... My name is Richard M. Smith. I am a student at Bath University. I own an Amiga and a PC (no flaming!) I have written a game in AMOS Pro named: Am-Tank. You can download Am-Tank from the Aminet or, preferably, my web site: http://www2.bath.ac.uk/~ma4rms/amiga.html There you can also find a demo or two, an animation and a couple of mods - all done on an Amiga. (Please send me your comments and suggestions) So, why the sudden ressurection of Am-Tank? Well, simple - it is time for the next update - which basically means I am writing an NTSC compatible version. I felt sooo guilty that non-Pal owners couldn't enjoy this great game! Hence, because I am going to be in front of my Amiga again, I thought it would be a nice to time to get people's suggestios for the next version! So, if you haven't already downloaded it...get it now! (You can even download the source to see what is going on!) Right, well, I have said what I came here to say...thanks for listening, enjoy the film. Rich (Mad) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 21 10:04:59 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15081 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA15791 for amos-out; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15788 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA00308 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:20:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from h150.redrose.net ([208.7.248.150]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0918169; 21 Mar 97 12:51 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Richard Michael Smith From: Mush Subject: Re: Am-Tank Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <858948667.0918169.0@h150.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: At 10:21 AM 3/21/97 +0000, Richard Michael Smith wrote: >I'm Back!!!! > >Greetings fellow AMOS Lovers/Users! > >I know I have been a quiet wee bunny...but now I am back in full force >and ready to rock and roll. > >Ho-hum. > >If you will indulge me for a moment, I would just like to wish a >be-lated congratulations to the one known as Mush - Congrats! (Oh, and >nice work on the pages!) > Cheers. Hopefully, we should be tieing the not on 5th April if all goes well. As for the pages, im trying to update the PD lists, but keep getting distracted, and my DH1: partition is not validating, and only have 512 bytes and no room to "write the bitmap". Help!!!!!!! Andy Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 21 16:53:04 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27546 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:53:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA07278 for amos-out; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:18:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07273 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (uv334@vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca [199.60.222.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25900 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uv334@localhost) by vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA12025; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:17:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:17:39 -0800 (PST) From: John Bintz Subject: Re: 3D Gaming books To: Mush cc: amos-list@access.digex.net In-Reply-To: <858912545.0918071.0@h169.redrose.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: That was the book I learned how to write a raycaster from...but the way the guy explains it is very confusing. Also, many of the graphics things are geared more toward 320x200x256 VGA IBM screens, with chunky displays. Its still a decent book, though. (Warlock is cheesy.) #@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@ John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca * @#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@# Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software! http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html *#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*# From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 21 18:25:30 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07279 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:25:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12123 for amos-out; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12119 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-6.mail.demon.net (punt2.demon.co.uk [194.217.242.5]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA29770 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:09:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from h150.redrose.net ([208.7.248.150]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0513088; 21 Mar 97 21:40 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: John Bintz From: Mush Subject: Re: 3D Gaming books Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <858980443.0513088.0@h150.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: At 12:17 PM 3/21/97 -0800, John Bintz wrote: >That was the book I learned how to write a raycaster from...but the way >the guy explains it is very confusing. Also, many of the graphics things >are geared more toward 320x200x256 VGA IBM screens, with chunky >displays. Its still a decent book, though. (Warlock is cheesy.) > Isnt that what we want? 320x200 is the limit i think the American Amiga users can display, and as for the colours, im sure I could edit something to reduce them Andy Kellett P.S Wolfenstein is cool! Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 22 03:24:40 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29778 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA27143 for amos-out; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:01:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA27140 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (a007193t@bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA28152 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA12071; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:00:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:00:53 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: 3D Gaming books & Am-Tank To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: >Isnt that what we want? 320x200 is the limit i think the American Amiga >users can display, and as for the colours, im sure I could edit something >to reduce them >Andy Kellett > Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy To: Mush Excuse me 320x200 the NTSC limit. No No No aren't you forgetting about overscan, and if you are talking about NTSC TV displays the max so far is Super-High Res Laced 1280x400 overscan 1448x482 Max Colors 256, and maybe if some one gets the Amos source, and rewrites Amos we will be able to use this mode. As for 3D games you'll need a faster CPU. To: Rechard Use ___x256 PAL, move your game in to the overscan area using the command ( SCREEN DISPLAY number,x,y,width,height ) set y to 26 the visible NTSC TV display area is 0 to 230 or 231 lines. The corners of most TVs are not flat this is a little problematic for normal bordered displays, and more for horizontal overscan. adjust your screens accordingly. Hope this saves you some convergence time. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 22 12:35:57 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12390 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04064 for amos-out; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04060 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (mail4.geocities.com [204.7.246.134]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15847 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from acer-200 (tul-ok4-18.ix.netcom.com [204.31.234.146]) by geocities.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA12116 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:38:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703221638.IAA12116@geocities.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Adam Parrott" Organization: Parrottsoft, Ltd. To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:39:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Questions and comments. Reply-to: parrottsoft@geocities.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53) Status: RO X-Status: Greetings. Well, unfortuanately, unless something changes, I only have access to my e-mail on weekends only. This is effective until the end of May (about May 16th or 23rd, around there). Anyways, if you send me anything, questions, replies, flames, I won't be able to read it (more than likely) until that weekend. Well, I don't have much to say in this digest, only that I think its kinda funny how everyone suddenly starts talking 3D when Mr. Howarth has trouble with his raycasting routine. Anyhow, as many of you know, much of the major programming on my engine came to a halt after Christmas, due to some bug reworking that needs to be done, some code and examples I have been looking over, and even more help I've been looking for.. but the main reason would have to be my studies (unfortuanately). The engine itself is just in the basic stages of raycasting, and even though I've soaked up alot of information on raycasting and the entire 3D scene, I have yet to organize this information and implement any of it. I'm still collecting bits of source and info and examples (send me any, I don't care for the size, as long as it's not over 500k). Anyways, most of the programming and coding probably won't commense (as well as the Team project, beta-testing and all that) until the end of May through the Summer. The pages on my web site, however, are still under major reconstruction (as were Mush's pages) and should be up before then, within a couple of weeks I'm projecting, and with all information on my Engine, the Team project, and how you can help (beta testing and coding if so). Please stay tuned. Thanks everyone. Adam Parrott, mailto: parrottsoft@geocities.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 22 18:35:08 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24339 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14569 for amos-out; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14566 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from uno.canit.se (root@uno.canit.se [193.13.228.1]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA22076 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uno.canit.se (8.6.10/8.6.10) with UUCP id XAA16168 for access.digex.net!amos-list; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:38:50 +0100 Received: by karkis.canit.se (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0uqh@karkis.canit.se>; Sat, 22 Mar 97 13:15:51 CET Message-ID: <3333db7c@karkis.canit.se> Date: 22 Mar 97 13:15:40 CET Organization: Karkis BBS, Stockholm, Sweden X-Mailer: AmiGate 1.6a (22.12.95) From: grok@karkis.canit.se (Hakan Venderlof) To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: quit Status: RO X-Status: amos-list@access.digex.net If I start a prog like for example an texteditor with exec "DH0:c/ed DH0:textfile" where textfile is the text to be displayed, how can I close the program from AMOSPro? _______________________________________ | | | greets..............................| | | | grok@karkis.canit.se +46+08+7529323| |_____________________________________| From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 22 21:15:43 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10693 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 21:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA19087 for amos-out; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19084 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA28178 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:23:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:23:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from h134.redrose.net ([208.7.248.134]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0504577; 23 Mar 97 1:15 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Hakan Venderlof From: Mush Subject: Re: quit Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <859079735.054577.0@h134.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: At 01:15 PM 3/22/97 CET, Hakan Venderlof wrote: >amos-list@access.digex.net > > >If I start a prog like for example an texteditor with >exec "DH0:c/ed DH0:textfile" > >where textfile is the text to be displayed, > >how can I close the program from AMOSPro? > Cant you use AREXX ports? In my library, I have several programs which will control input/output to the REXX ports. Mush Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 23 20:33:42 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06311 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA24335 for amos-out; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24332 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00518 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:12:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from h145.redrose.net ([208.7.248.145]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0921131; 24 Mar 97 0:11 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Mush Subject: Twinz PRO Message-ID: <859162267.0921131.0@h145.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: I posted my full version of Twinz PRO to the Downloads section of my homepages, if anyone would like to download it. It has 13 tile levels to choose from, including an 18`s only level!!!! Andy Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 24 08:00:34 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02804 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA05103 for amos-out; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from access1.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access1.digex.net [205.197.245.192]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05100 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:50:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA27434 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:50:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news2.digex.net!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.uio.no!uninett.no!online.no!not-for-mail From: torbjosi@online.no (torbjorn syversen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: AMOS: installing & updating query Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:57:38 GMT Organization: Telenor Online Public Access Lines: 30 Message-ID: <33374863.3757855@news.online.no> References: <5ge0v4$cm6$1@otis.netspace.net.au> <332D1E04.6201DD56@KILLSPAM.hl.siemens.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: oslo702.online.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .a99g/32.339 Xref: news2.digex.net comp.sys.amiga.programmer:111218 ReSent-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:50:09 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: AoD ReSent-To: AMOS Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: Status: RO X-Status: On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:33:40 +0100, "Matthijs Hollemans (HL CAD FCA)" wrote: >Michael Day wrote: > >> My question: >> Do I need to install 1.23, then 1.3 then 1.32 then 1.34 or can I just >> go and update the first disk using the latest revision I have? >> >> A convenient alternative: >> If anyone has a fully updated installation of AMOS I'd really >> appreciate getting a copy. That'd be the easiest way instead of >> tackling it myself. >> >> If anyone can help me I'd be very appreciative. > >Hmm, I believe the AMOS updates were Public Domain, so I guess you >need to install 1.23 first. You might wanna look around for V1.36 >which I think was the last update before they switched to Pro. V1.36 >makes your program work correctly on AGA machines (although you can't >code AGA programs), earlier versions don't. > I just went to 1.36 from the orginal. So i think you can start on any version. Maybe you need the orginal version to upgrade from, i don't know. ------------------- -Torbjorn Syversen- -Heggedal Norway - ------------------- From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 24 07:14:17 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA01128 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:14:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04236 for amos-out; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04233 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from abingdon.geoquest.slb.com (sun-sparc1.abingdon.geoquest.slb.com [134.32.146.198]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA18728 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc-rms ([134.32.146.133]) by abingdon.geoquest.slb.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25072; Mon, 24 Mar 97 09:24:11 GMT Message-Id: <33364804.300A@abingdon.geoquest.slb.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:23:16 +0000 From: Richard Michael Smith Organization: Geoquest X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Hyland Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: 3D Gaming books & Am-Tank References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: > Use ___x256 PAL, move your game in to the overscan area using the command > ( SCREEN DISPLAY number,x,y,width,height ) set y to 26 the visible NTSC TV > display area is 0 to 230 or 231 lines. The corners of most TVs are not flat > this is a little problematic for normal bordered displays, and more for > horizontal overscan. adjust your screens accordingly. Thanks for the tip. I will be using this! > Hope this saves you some convergence time. It certainly does! Thank you. Rich From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 24 09:36:47 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09009 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06923 for amos-out; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:46:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06920 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from jupiter.brighton.ac.uk (jupiter.bton.ac.uk [192.173.128.24]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05139 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha2.bton.ac.uk by jupiter with SMTP (MMTA); Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:40:36 +0000 Received: from localhost by alpha2.bton.ac.uk; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/28Jul95-0212PM) id AA01552; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:41:34 GMT Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:41:34 +0000 (GMT) From: walford To: amos-list Cc: walford Subject: Still can`t open amigaguide on a screen! Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Status: RO X-Status: O.K heres the problem. I am using J-Windows and i want to open an amigaguide document on an ituition public screen (e.g not Workbench) Now ive given the screen a name "BirdBase" using GadToolsBox. However as far as i can tell this is only a name which appears on the tool bar and somehow you must specify the name that the computer sees the screen as. How the hell do you do that? I`ve got my document opening on a FinalWriter screen so i know my code is right it just won`t recognice the screen name. I can`t remember the exact error message but ti was something along the lines of "can`t open window" Sorry about the dodgy typing but its a PC. Thanks in advance, Marek Walford From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 24 17:47:12 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24477 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:47:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA09883 for amos-out; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09880 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:45:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08629 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:45:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:45:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from h159.redrose.net ([208.7.248.159]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa0922472; 24 Mar 97 19:10 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: parrottsoft@geocities.com From: Mush Subject: Re: Downloading Mushy Files.. Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: <859230629.0922472.0@h159.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: At 11:52 AM 3/24/97 -0600, Adam Parrott wrote: >Greetings Andy. Well, hello there!! > >Tis Adam here. > >I was curious as to how your mailform works on your PD site works. Is >there a directory on your demon or Tripod site where you keep your >archives stored (I'm guessing there is on your demon account)? If >there is, would it be imposing to ask if you could point me to where >your archives and files (for the "Ordering PD") are stored? This >would be helpful as you remember I also use my PC for netting and I >have 28.8 connection, so, if there was a file I found that I wanted >on one of your mag pages, I could navigate on over to the directory >and download the file directly (which would be so much faster than >getting it sent to me via e-mail, which is dang slower). Thanks. > >Adam Parrott, mailto: parrottsoft@geocities.com > Believe me, there is nothing I would like better, than having to kick in Twin express, and transfer loads of data between machines. Because im with demon (till the end of july) they WONT under no circumstances allow me to use my own CGI scripts, which is a real pain in the arse as I studied to be a webspace provider in my own time, and found out I couldnt even do an auto-reply form. Instead, the form is emailed to me when the submit button is pressed, and I have to email the programs out. This is a real pain in the arse, as I have to "Stop" my mailer sending out programs, until I have a queue of everything, which is usually around 15Mb a day when its good. Im currently looking into getting a 200Mb webspace from Nethosting, which offers me unlimited bandwidth and GGI script usage, so I will be able to have an FTP side to my pages, rather than being emailed. It will cost me $125 to turn on www.mushy-pd.com, and 15$ monthly to maintain, with $5 for every 50 megs of space extra. I hope this answers your questions. Andrew Kellett Irc nick: Mush, Fish-Guy *************************************** MUSHROOM PD - Top AMOS code supplier Look for the new order forms on my page and have all programs delivered to you via the net! No charges! Also, see how you can get involved with Extreme AMOS 4 by viewing my homepage!! Homepages on http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk and now http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd/ *************************************** "Son, should the cat be bald....." - Andrew Kellett From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 26 05:42:06 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04483 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 05:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA10651 for amos-out; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10648 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:01:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from f3.hotmail.com (F3.hotmail.com [207.82.250.14]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA01512 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by f3.hotmail.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA23565; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 01:00:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 01:00:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703260900.BAA23565@f3.hotmail.com> Received: from 193.214.146.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 01:00:36 PST X-Originating-IP: [193.214.146.21] From: " Ragnar Fyri" To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Transition effects part 4 (I think) and some other stuff Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="====================987654321_0==_" X-Attachment: TEXTFILE.txt Status: RO X-Status: --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- --====================987654321_0==_ Content-Type: text/plain; name="TEXTFILE.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TEXTFILE.txt" Happy Easter, everyone. I have been downloading some old archives again, and someone wrote something about compilers that reminded me of something else. I've got the CU and AF coverdisks plus the manual sold by AF, which means I have the compiler (for Creator), but no docs. So what, you say. Just press Compile and it compiles. Yes, I have figured out that part and how to select target type (AMOS/WB/CLI), but what are the two disk/chip buttons for? As far as I can see the program works just the same no matter which combinations I use! I have also been told the compiler can be invoked from direct mode without using the GUI at all, but don't know how. Anyone feel like giving me a crash course? Speaking of compilers, compiled programs don't always work exactly the same as the source. I once wrote a sort of animated logo for my "pen name" (mouse/key name?) which ends with two bobs coming in from either side ofthe screen to form the word "presents" in the middle. The uncompiled version works just as planned, but in the compiled version the bobs never appear and the program just hangs. S.O.S.! Before I forget: I wrote sometime back that I was going to subscribe to the list for a while, but either something went wrong with the command or you guys have been awfully quiet of late. So I have decided to just get the archive file each month, which means that unless you have the patience to wait for my answers until then, comments to my postings should be sent directly to me. (BTW, has anyone got an edited version of the October archive? I'm using a PC at the library for net access, which means I can only download a file and take it home if it fits on a 720 K disk.) Time for some more transitions. BTW, I'm posting these in roughly alphabetic order, which is not necessarily the order I wrote them in. Here is another of my "standard" routines, as before requiring two pictures of the same resolution and size, and preferably the same palette as well. To use the program as it is, you should have the pics packed into two banks, or you could modify it to load any two files you want ech time it runs. The first part of the program (down to "Ordnes in allung", which BTW is German for "everything in order" spelled sideways) is exactly (?) the same as in my last program, but I'm including it for the sake of completeness and in case there should be any newcomers who didn't get the last chapter. This one's called FancyWipeH and is essentially the same as the last (Fancy- Wipe), only horizontally. Set Buffer 1000 SAV_IT=False : Rem Change to True to store pictures! Curs Off : Print : Centre "Wait for first picture," Print : Centre "press a key to switch!" Print : Centre "Press a key again to quit." Hide On : Auto View Off Unpack 6 To 2 : Screen Hide 2 SW1=Screen Width : SH1=Screen Height : SC1=Screen Colour Unpack 7 To 3 : Screen Hide 3 SW2=Screen Width : SH2=Screen Height : SC2=Screen Colour If SW1<>SW2 or SH1<>SH2 or SC1<>SC2 Default : Print "Mismatch!!" Print Print "SW1=";SW1,"SW2=";SW2 Print "SH1=";SH1,"SH2=";SH2 Print "SC1=";SC1,"SC2=";SC2 End End If ' 'Ordnes in allung ' Screen Open 0,SW1,SH1,SC1,Lowres Curs Off : Flash Off Screen To Front 0 Screen Copy 2 To 0 : Screen 0 : Get Palette 2 Auto View On : Wait Key T=Timer : C=100 If SAV_IT Then Save Iff "t:"+Str$(C) : Inc C Screen 0 : Fade 10 To 3 For A=0 To SH1-4 Step 2 : B=SH1-A-3 Screen Copy 3,0,A,SW1,A+1 To 0,0,A Screen Copy 3,0,B,SW1,B+1 To 0,0,B : Wait Vbl If SAV_IT Then Save Iff "t:"+Str$(C) : Inc C Next TT=Timer-T : Wait Key Default : Print TT/50;",";Mid$(Str$(TT mod 50),2);" seconds!" This takes 2.3 seconds on my Amiga with the same 320*256 pics I've been using all the time. So far all the routines have been fast enough to be used in real time. The following takes about two minutes to finish, but if you set the SAV_IT flag it will save the whole sequence to disk as single pictures which may then be assembled into an animation with some other program. It's called PixelOver, and starts just like the program above, but after the quazi-German remark it goes like this: Screen Open 0,SW1,SH1,SC1,Lowres Curs Off : Flash Off Screen Open 1,SW1,SH1,SC1,Lowres Screen To Front 0 Screen Copy 2 To 0 : Screen 0 : Get Palette 2 Auto View On Double Buffer : Update Off T=Timer : C=100 If SAV_IT Then Save Iff "t:"+Str$(C) : Inc C ' 'Pixel up ' For A=0 To 8 Step 1 Bell : RES=2^A Zoom 2,0,0,SW1,SH1 To 1,0,0,SW1/RES,SH1/RES Zoom 1,0,0,SW1/RES,SH1/RES To 0,0,0,SW1,SH1 Screen Swap If SAV_IT Then Save Iff "t:"+Str$(C) : Inc C Next ' 'Pixel down ' Get Palette 3 For A=7 To 0 Step -1 Bell : RES=2^A Zoom 3,0,0,SW1,SH1 To 1,0,0,SW1/RES,SH1/RES Zoom 1,0,0,SW1/RES,SH1/RES To 0,0,0,SW1,SH1 Screen Swap If SAV_IT Then Save Iff "t:"+Str$(C) : Inc C Next : Screen Swap If SAV_IT Then Save Iff "t:"+Str$(C) TT=Timer-T Default : Priove" action="http://207.82.250.251/cgi-bin/nextprev">
; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13599 for amos-out; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13596 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ameba.lpt.fi (root@ameba.lpt.fi [193.166.79.3]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27217 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from yle047 (tekupc248.lpt.fi [193.166.70.248]) by ameba.lpt.fi (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA19656 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:07:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <33391FCE.5260@lpt.fi> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:08:30 +0200 From: Aki Suuronen Reply-To: asuurone@lpt.fi Organization: LTOL X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: PAL NTSC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: Hi Everybody, I'm making a little strategy game in amos using PAL screen (320x255) and (640x255) and I would like to know what should I do to it so that it work ok NTSC. (without changing graf.) Also If someone want to know what I'm doing check out my homepage. There is beta version to download. -- Suuronen Aki asuurone@lpt.fi http://web-users.lpt.fi/~asuurone/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 26 12:59:50 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07377 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24203 for amos-out; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:23:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24200 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:23:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (golden.org [199.166.210.2]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22884 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (Giark@cisco5-33.golden.net [207.216.76.33]) by golden.net (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA28461 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:23:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:23:00 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <33391FCE.5260@lpt.fi> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: PAL NTSC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 26-Mar-97, Aki Suuronen wrote: > I'm making a little strategy game in amos using PAL screen (320x255) >and (640x255) >and I would like to know what should I do to it so that it work ok NTSC. >(without changing graf.) The maximum screen size for NTSC is 320x234 and 640x234. You need to use Screen Display #,128,26,X,Y to get it all on the screen. Check out EA4 for my tips file on this and many other subjects pertaining to amos. Well met and godspeed, Giark joehick@golden.net http://www.golden.net/~joehick/fbn/index.html ______ ______ _____ .------------------------------------------. / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ! AMOS games, utilities, demos, etc. ! / /__ / /_/ / / / / / ! ! / ___/ / ___ | / / / / ! CyberSpace BBS (519)579-0072 ! / / / /__/ / / / / / ! on A2000 060/50MHz (519)579-0173 ! /_/ /______/ /_/ /_/ ! ! Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! ! FBN Amiga 500 020 14MHz 1C/5F RAM 3.1OS ! `------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 26 12:00:26 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01923 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24323 for amos-out; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:27:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24320 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (golden.org [199.166.210.2]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23257 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (Giark@cisco5-33.golden.net [207.216.76.33]) by golden.net (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA28763 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:26:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:26:08 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: CyberSpace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: To those of you who might want to call CyberSpace, but it's a bit of a long distance call: Go into irc and join irc.kuai.se on port 6666. Do a whois on either joehick or Hicksville. Use that address to telnet in to CyberSpace. The telnet port for the BBS is active most of the time. We're working on getting a permanent address for it, but for now you have to find it yourself. Well met and godspeed, Giark joehick@golden.net http://www.golden.net/~joehick/fbn/index.html ______ ______ _____ .------------------------------------------. / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ! AMOS games, utilities, demos, etc. ! / /__ / /_/ / / / / / ! ! / ___/ / ___ | / / / / ! CyberSpace BBS (519)579-0072 ! / / / /__/ / / / / / ! on A2000 060/50MHz (519)579-0173 ! /_/ /______/ /_/ /_/ ! ! Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! ! FBN Amiga 500 020 14MHz 1C/5F RAM 3.1OS ! `------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 26 12:51:01 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27815 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:51:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA25354 for amos-out; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25350 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:00:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapman.karlskrona.se (chapman.karlskrona.se [194.52.186.130]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25379 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from berzelius ([10.10.10.74]) by chapman.karlskrona.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA09132 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:01:29 +0100 Message-ID: <33394888.3B0D@Chapman.karlskrona.se> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:02:16 +0100 From: Goran Cengic Reply-To: gorane@chapman.karlskrona.se Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AMOS List Subject: Little extension that someone sent in the past Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: hi For some time ago someone sent a little extension wich he compiled with ProAsm. Could you please end it to me again because I need it. thanks in advance Goran From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed Mar 26 20:04:29 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06667 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:04:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA17975 for amos-out; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17971 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (a007193t@bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA11904 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA27585; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:51:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:51:01 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Twinz_PRO & PAL NTSC & every one else To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915886207-921799329-859420261:#25897" Status: RO X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1915886207-921799329-859420261:#25897 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello: Mush and AmosListers Attached to this file is a program called CPC (Cross Pond Compatibility). This program is a example of CPC in its simplest form IE let us move the screen and position it are selves. The program makes use of the gtt.lha program that reads the tool types from the program icon. I used a lot of Rem's to explain every thing so hopefully it will be easy to understand. It uses the NTSC command to determine PAL or NTSC modes, so you need to use the early boot options screen to flip screen modes, as screen flippers don't produce true video modes. To move the screen up or down use the arrow keys and to exit use ESC. Mush please add something like this to your Twinz_PRO_V3.43, as well as the exit to DOS I hate having to reboot after playing a game. As I don't own a PAL TV can some one send to the list the correct PAL= type for the overscan top and the last line visible on the bottom. 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(EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA24775 for amos-out; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24772 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:07:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01073 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:07:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from h133.redrose.net ([208.7.248.133]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0524892; 27 Mar 97 2:10 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Eric Hyland , amos-list@access.digex.net From: Mush Subject: Re: Twinz_PRO & PAL NTSC & every one else Message-ID: <859428626.0524892.0@h133.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: > >Mush please add something like this to your Twinz_PRO_V3.43, as well as >the exit to DOS I hate having to reboot after playing a game. > When on the main screen of Twinz V3.43 (flashing the options) pressing Escape will return you to DOS. Its in the doc guide. Andy Kellett --------******( Extreme AMOS )******-------- The best AMOS homepages around, full of downloads, and my AMOS disk magazine. Order games and utilities directly from the library, for FREE. See my homepages at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk or http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd for more information. Email: mpd@mushy-pd.demon.co.uk mpd@computer4u.com mushy_pd@hotmail.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 27 02:33:29 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA02925 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 02:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA27470 for amos-out; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA27467 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05268 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:58:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from h133.redrose.net ([208.7.248.133]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0504658; 27 Mar 97 5:39 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: amos-list@access.digex.net From: Mush Subject: Back in the UK Message-ID: <859441161.054658.0@h133.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: I will be going home to UK this friday afternoon, to arrive on the saturday morning. My pages may be updated tomorrow, im not sure yet, but any mails/articles etc. may not be answered till about the 9th 10th of April (if I can get on a flight to come back with D) otherwise it will be later. If anyone wants to call me in UK about anything AMOS related, or for a chit chat, you can reach me at (01457) 860301 (Glossop, Derbyshire) and I will be happy to talk. Oh, and one final thing... Would the peeples who keep sending me stacks of empty forms STOP IT as it is totally driving me crazy!!!! Mush --------******( Extreme AMOS )******-------- The best AMOS homepages around, full of downloads, and my AMOS disk magazine. Order games and utilities directly from the library, for FREE. See my homepages at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk or http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd for more information. Email: mpd@mushy-pd.demon.co.uk mpd@computer4u.com mushy_pd@hotmail.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 27 15:42:47 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05010 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24509 for amos-out; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24506 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22404 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:09:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from xs4all.nl (collin@drt01-18.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.19]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id UAA07547; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:08:20 +0100 (MET) From: Branko Collin To: Eric Hyland , Amos Discussion List Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:23:26 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Twinz_PRO & PAL NTSC & every one else MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 27-maa-97 Eric Hyland wrote: >Attached to this file is a program called CPC (Cross Pond >Compatibility). There is a worrying trend that people start sending files that are bigger than 4kB to this list. Please do not do this. It is impolite, but also completely unnecessary. Ul' it to your homepage or to Aminet and leave a message on this list. If you cannot get to Aminet or do not have a homepage, then that is your problem. There are people who have to pay for their mail, and by forcing large files through their throats, you are effectively stealing from them. ----- Branko Collin http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin collin@xs4all.nl http://www.kun.nl/undans/members/branko.htm "Erm... Erm... should I say something interesting now?" - Branko Collin - From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 27 12:47:45 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17569 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11354 for amos-out; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11351 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07147 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:24:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:24:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from h163.redrose.net ([208.7.248.163]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0529873; 27 Mar 97 15:26 GMT X-Sender: mushy-pd@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Eric Hyland , amos-list@access.digex.net From: Mush Subject: Re: Twinz_PRO & PAL NTSC & every one else Message-ID: <859476387.0529873.0@h163.redrose.net> Status: RO X-Status: >As I don't own a PAL TV can some one send to the list the correct PAL= >type for the overscan top and the last line visible on the bottom. > Im not sure of the exact figures at the mo (my USA monitor cuts a few off you see) but I can find out when I go back to the USA Mush --------******( Extreme AMOS )******-------- The best AMOS homepages around, full of downloads, and my AMOS disk magazine. Order games and utilities directly from the library, for FREE. See my homepages at http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk or http://members.tripod.com/~mushypd for more information. Email: mpd@mushy-pd.demon.co.uk mpd@computer4u.com mushy_pd@hotmail.com Look for Mush now on IPhone!! From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu Mar 27 20:09:38 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26269 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA10796 for amos-out; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10793 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from bc.seflin.org (a007193t@bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA22084 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA28227; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:43:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:43:56 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Hyland Subject: Re: Twinz_PRO & PAL NTSC & every one else To: Branko Collin cc: Amos Discussion List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Branko Collin wrote: > On 27-maa-97 Eric Hyland wrote: > > >Attached to this file is a program called CPC (Cross Pond > >Compatibility). > > There is a worrying trend that people start sending files that are bigger than > 4kB to this list. Please do not do this. It is impolite, but also completely > unnecessary. Ul' it to your homepage or to Aminet and leave a message on this > list. > > If you cannot get to Aminet or do not have a homepage, then that is your > problem. There are people who have to pay for their mail, and by forcing large > files through their throats, you are effectively stealing from them. 4kB 14kB your are complaining about 10kB you really need to get a life!!!!!! Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 28 06:18:09 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08274 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 06:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA24293 for amos-out; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 03:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24290 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 03:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from link.net.mt (link.link.net.mt [194.73.234.190]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08593 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 03:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.link.net.mt (holqa124.link.net.mt [194.73.234.154]) by link.net.mt (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA14963 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:03:34 +0100 (GMT) From: Aaron Bonnici Reply-To: aaron@mail.link.net.mt (Aaron Bonnici) To: AMOS Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:05:57 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: AGA EXTENSION MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: Hi to Everyone, Please can anybody tell me where to get the AGA extension for Amos Pro, if there is one. Thanks Aaron Bonnici From collin@xs4all.nl Fri Mar 28 13:54:53 1997 Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27809; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:54:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from xs4all.nl (collin@drt01-00.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.1]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id TAA07175; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 19:54:14 +0100 (MET) From: Branko Collin To: Eric Hyland CC: Amos Discussion List , mcox@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 19:51:51 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Twinz_PRO & PAL NTSC & every one else MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 28-maa-97 Eric Hyland wrote: >On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Branko Collin wrote: >> On 27-maa-97 Eric Hyland wrote: >> >> >Attached to this file is a program called CPC (Cross Pond >> >Compatibility). >> >> There is a worrying trend that people start sending files that are >> bigger than 4kB to this list. Please do not do this. It is impolite, >> but also completely unnecessary. Ul' it to your homepage or to >> Aminet and leave a message on this list. >> >> If you cannot get to Aminet or do not have a homepage, then that is >> your problem. There are people who have to pay for their mail, and >> by forcing large files through their throats, you are effectively >> stealing from them. >4kB 14kB your are complaining about 10kB you really need to get a >life!!!!!! Excuse me! You were the one who agreed to the 4Kb limit when you joined this list. So stick to it or unsubscribe and start your own mailing list. I didn't subscribe just to watch you dump your pathetic programs in my mailbox so that you feel you have ensured yourself of an audience. Any files >4kB go straight to NIL: on my computer. Michael, it is no use having a limit on the size of mails to this list if you do not try to enforce this limit. So either remove the limit, or do something with it (i.e. a warning the first time, unsubscription of the offender the second time). There is only one way to fight pollution of the net. Unfortunately, there are people who think that there is a second way, which is acting as if nothing wrong ever happens. This only makes things worse. The beauty of a mailing list is that you actually control what is being sent. If someone is offensive, or breaking the rules, you kick them out. It's as simple as that. ----- Branko Collin http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin collin@xs4all.nl http://www.kun.nl/undans/members/branko.htm "Erm... Erm... should I say something interesting now?" - Branko Collin - From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri Mar 28 19:22:45 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11320 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 19:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28732 for amos-out; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28729 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (mail5.geocities.com [204.7.246.135]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15256 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from acer-200 (tul-ok6-31.ix.netcom.com [207.92.186.95]) by geocities.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19076 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:26:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703282326.PAA19076@geocities.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Adam Parrott" Organization: Parrottsoft, Ltd. To: amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:28:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Any raycasting routines? Reply-to: parrottsoft@geocities.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53) Status: RO X-Status: Greetings. This is "Cafe Man". Adam of Parrott that is. It's been about a week since I've sent anything to the List, so.. I thought I would ask a question, if you want to call it that.. I'm looking for source or tidbits of 3D engine code (raycasting, texture mapping, map reading, anything) preferably written in AMOS. If you have any of the above, and if it's been developed to an extent and you don't mind sharing it, I would be more than happy to accept any programs or source you would like to send me (send me an entire engine if you want). I will not share or distribute the code you give me if it is against your wishes. I have already received code from Mr. Bintz on his engine (thanks John). The main reason for this inquiry is, like I said before, the coding on the Cafe engine will not commence until this summer, however, at this time until then, I'm taking the opportunity to soak up all I can on 3D gaming engines, code and source, so that I can design the engine and lay it out, then being coding it over the summer. Thanks everyone. And may Amiga Technologies be safe in the hands of the people of: G a t e w a y 2 0 0 0 . Anyhow, long live the Amiga! ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ||P |||a |||r |||r |||o |||t |||t |||s |||o |||f |||t || ||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|| |/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\| Adam Parrott General Manager and Lead Programmer http://www.parrottsoft.base.org http://www.parrottsoft.home.ml.org http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/6116 mailto: parrottsoft@geocities.com ______________________________________________________ At Parrottsoft, we specialize in Amiga software, using Amos and the latest Graphics and Sound software. Our current project: A 3D gaming engine similar to Build and leaner than Quake. Check out the Parrottsoft website for more details! Now there's an idea. (r) From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 29 06:26:57 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06159 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 06:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA11282 for amos-out; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 05:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from access5.digex.net (qlUkZ3NHpJvic@access5.digex.net [205.197.245.196]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11279 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 05:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mcox@localhost) by access5.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id FAA10763 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 05:46:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 05:46:56 -0500 (EST) From: AoD To: AMOS Mailing List Subject: Message sizes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: First, I don't have time to really police this list. Second, take all complaints about a user to private email. Third, I'll remove the limit from the list unless over half of you object (75 or more). Send it private email. If you do not like this, just unsubscribe. I make no money, I make nothing from this list except support of AMOS. So just stick to AMOS topics. All other threads/tangents should be via private email, not the list. Michael -- Michael Cox Work: michaelc@gsg.eds.com A1200/465/CD + 1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: mcox@access.digex.net For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! AMOS WWW: http://www.dragonfire.net/~amos/ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 29 08:27:24 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09262 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 08:27:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11641 for amos-out; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 07:29:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11638 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 07:29:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from cafu.fl.net.au (root@cafu.fl.net.au [203.22.184.10]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07909 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 07:29:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (darryl@localhost) by cafu.fl.net.au (2.0/fl) with SMTP id XAA18138; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 23:29:29 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 23:29:28 +1100 (EST) From: Darryl Lewis To: parrottsoft@geocities.com cc: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: Any raycasting routines? In-Reply-To: <199703282326.PAA19076@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Adam Parrott wrote: > I'm looking for source or tidbits of 3D engine code (raycasting, Go to my homepage and follow the link to the PC files section. I have some 3D code there written in C. Take what ever you want. My page dissapears in 2 weeks, so grab what ever you want. PC, Amiga, etc..... It's all gotta go! Darryl Australia IMAGINE INFO #####\ _ /##### AMOS INFO Amiga 2000 #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# AmosPro + Compiler Amiga 3000T ##### | /_ / | ##### APME (Get it!) 486DX2-66 #" "# | ___m/I_ //_____ | #" "# Turbo extension Imagine 3.0 # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # 3D extension Intermediate #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# BBS extension #####/ ######/ \###### \##### Profession- Disk Jockey/System Administrator http://www.dragonfire.net/~daz/home.htm From slebed@ix.netcom.com Sat Mar 29 12:59:34 1997 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.8]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14168; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA14482; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:57:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from whx-ca1-02.ix.netcom.com(204.31.115.34) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma014316; Sat Mar 29 11:57:27 1997 From: Stephen Lebed Reply-To: slebed@ix.netcom.com To: Eric Hyland , Branko Collin CC: Amos Discussion List , mcox@access.digex.net Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 09:55:03 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: The RIOS/LEBED Project Subject: Re: Twinz_PRO & PAL NTSC & every one else MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail2.access.digex.net id MAA14168 Status: RO X-Status: On 29-Mar-97, Eric Hyland wrote: >On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Branko Collin wrote: >> On 28-maa-97 Eric Hyland wrote: >> >> >On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Branko Collin wrote: >> >> >> On 27-maa-97 Eric Hyland wrote: >> >> >> >> >Attached to this file is a program called CPC (Cross Pond >> >> >Compatibility). >> >> >> >> There is a worrying trend that people start sending files that are >> >> bigger than 4kB to this list. Please do not do this. It is impolite, >> >> but also completely unnecessary. Ul' it to your homepage or to >> >> Aminet and leave a message on this list. >> >> >> >> If you cannot get to Aminet or do not have a homepage, then that is >> >> your problem. There are people who have to pay for their mail, and >> >> by forcing large files through their throats, you are effectively >> >> stealing from them. >> >> >4kB 14kB your are complaining about 10kB you really need to get a >> >life!!!!!! >> >> Excuse me! You were the one who agreed to the 4Kb limit when you joined >> this list. So stick to it or unsubscribe and start your own mailing list. I >> didn't subscribe just to watch you dump your pathetic programs in my mailbox >> so that you feel you have ensured yourself of an audience. Any files >4kB go >> straight to NIL: on my computer. >#1 What makes you think my program is pathetic if you did not recive it ? >#2 Why are you bugging me if this doesn't effect you ? >#3 If this such a problem why are you the only one complaining ? >#4 I didn't post my program on the list to ensure my self a audience. I >posted it because people where intrested in NTSC conversion, also I don't >really think of it as a program, but more of a routine, and routines should >be allallowed on the list even if they are over 4kBs. I'm sorry, but having a 4kb limit on this list is way too limiting . I've read all the bickering going on back and forth, and I can see everyones point of view. But it seems that the purpose of this list has been lost. I felt that this list was THE place for infomation exchange, be it coded examples, professional tips, or reporting bugs. It seems that some people want to use this list to do nothing more than brag about what they've programmed and to toot their own horns. The CPC program is an example of the type of programs that need to be exchanged on this list. I don't want to spend all my time developing for NTSC, only to find out it doesn't work in PAL. Or write on an A4000 only to find out later that it doesn't work on the A500. Lately people have been asking for a ray casting engine in Amos. I doubt anyones written one in under 4kb. Does that mean that everyones out of luck because one guy out there pays by the kilobyte? One final note. If some people are in a situation where they have to pay for each kilobyte they DL then they need to change service providers, period. I currently pay only $20 a month for unlimited access. If they can't afford that, then they got bigger problems then worrying about 4kb E-mails! Long live the Amos and the Amiga!! -- Stephen Lebed The RIOS/LEBED Project slebed@ix.netcom.com From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat Mar 29 23:16:40 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06609 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 23:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA29237 for amos-out; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29234 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (uv334@vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca [199.60.222.1]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA04575 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uv334@localhost) by vifa1.freenet.victoria.bc.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12345; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:36:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:36:47 -0800 (PST) From: John Bintz Subject: BIG FILES!!! To: amos-list@access.digex.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Didn't we just go through this same discussion (argument?!?) a month or two ago? With the same solutions...Aminet, Personal FTP Sites, EMailing only those interested...really, its getting tedious. I open my mailbox every day with 10 new messages, nine of them saying "Re: TWINZ_PRO and CPC and other stuff" or whatever. I try to limit myself to small messages. Its tough, especially when trying to explain a concept like raycasting, trigonometry, or HTTP. And any attachments I've sent to the list are small. I guess I'm lucky to have a Web site I can put everything on. [Personal FTP Site] If anyone wants to stick stuff on my account at Dragonfire, I've got 21 Meg left. I paid $25 for it, I might as well use it. $.02 #@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@ John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca * @#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@# Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software! http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html *#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*# From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 30 04:25:16 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13724 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 04:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA01968 for amos-out; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 03:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01965 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 03:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from phoenix.earthlight.co.nz (root@phoenix.earthlight.co.nz [203.97.8.4]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02743 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 03:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from earthlight.co.nz (crowlppp@ppp189.earthlight.co.nz [202.36.170.189]) by phoenix.earthlight.co.nz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA21294 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 20:24:30 +1200 From: Mike & Ben Crowl To: Amos-list@access.digex.net Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 20:22:44 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Voting for big files didn't work.. =\ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 30-Mar-97, Eric Hyland wrote: *Shit, here we go again! ;))* > The subject of BIG FILES has come up again, so I would like to share > my previous vote with you. first off BIG FILES don't bother me I can > handle any thing throne at me. That having been said my vote was for a > 20kB limit. Why ? Out of respect for people who do have a problem with > BIG FILES. Why am I mentioning this ? Because I remember what happened > the last time. Which wasn't actually that long ago.. ;) As far as being able to handle what is *thrown* at you.. it doesn't matter that can handle, it matters that some people can't.. > By the way what was the results from the voting? I don't believe the > numbers where ever posted. I was the person who started the vote.. the question was: "Should we have big files?" >From the people who voted, it was 22 for, 6 against (as I remember).. the votes never got posted BECAUSE, it was going to cause trouble deciding whether to have big files, only them.. =\ > Ok the point of this letter is To BIG FILE, or not to BIG FILE should > not be the subject of this NEW discussion. What should it be? It should > be about choosing a less restrictive minimum then 4kB, so even if BIG > FILES are not the way we wont to go we don't have to be stuck with such > a restrictive limit. Nobody is stuck with a 4k limit.. this was just the opinion of ONE person.. There is only one way we decided we could solve this problem, and that was if you had something you wanted to send to the list, you asked who wanted it, and ONLY sent to the people who replied.. otherwise, SOMEONE complained about it.. Being someone who can recieve and send big files, this is annoying and I know it will be annoying for you if you can do the same.. BUT, I think it is the only fair way to do things.. > On this BIG FILES thing I am more interested in knowing how many > people actually have a problem with receiving BIG FILES. You know we > may have voted No BIG FILES out of respect for people who have a > problem receiving BIG FILES, but there may not be any one on the list > that has this problem. No.. there are a few people with this problem.. from what I remember, it was those who received mail through BBS's and things like that, that had the trouble. People with normal PPP/(C)SLIP or Shell connections didn't have trouble.. (what's the bet someone will disagree with -* # | +_)--|\ || # # | (_ --||\|| # # |_+_)--|| \| # *-<=========|====>-* : ==(<= mcrowl@earthlight.co.nz =>)== From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 30 18:46:36 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06446 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 18:46:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA08023 for amos-out; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08020 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04372 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from xs4all.nl (collin@drt01-00.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.1]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id AAA16689 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:36:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Branko Collin To: Amos Discussion List Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 23:08:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Twinz_PRO & PAL NTSC & every one else MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 29-maa-97 Stephen Lebed wrote: >On 29-Mar-97, Eric Hyland wrote: >>On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Branko Collin wrote: >>> >[snipped all the bickering back and forth :-)] >One final note. If some people are in a situation where they have >to pay for each kilobyte they DL then they need to change service >providers, period. I currently pay only $20 a month for unlimited >access. If they can't afford that, then they got bigger problems >then worrying about 4kb E-mails! The same goes for people who do not have their own homepage or ftp-site, or the possibility to ul files to the Aminet. I still feel (very strongly) that it is more elegant solution to ul a file to some site and post a pointer to this list. Yes, complete 3D-engines may take up more than 4k. But you do not have to mail the entire engine if all you want to do is discuss 3D. I practically go blind if I have to watch 10k of someone else's code and then give some sane comments on it. Even if the 4k limit is small, it doesn't mean you should use this list as a dumping place. ----- Branko Collin http://www.xs4all.nl/~collin collin@xs4all.nl http://www.kun.nl/undans/members/branko.htm "Erm... Erm... should I say something interesting now?" - Branko Collin - From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 30 11:24:02 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11495 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 11:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04137 for amos-out; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:02:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04132 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from kulmbach.baynet.de (kulmbach1.kulmbach.baynet.de [194.95.194.130]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA28735 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kulmbach.baynet.de by kulmbach.baynet.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA14311; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:01:51 -0700 From: Benjamin Asen Reply-To: Benjamin Asen To: AoD Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 14:07:06 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ODIN Entertainment Productions Subject: FINAL SOLLUTION: BIG FILES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: FINAL SOLLUTION: BIG FILES If you have AMOS-related files (smaller 1 Megabyte) send it to ME: Lonestar@kulmbach.baynet.de All files are collected in a list. Every week (Saturday) I mail this list trough the AMOS-LIST. If you need some files, write me an E-Mail. If you have some files, send them to me. To order a file see the ALF (AMOS LIST FILES)! If you want to receive ALL NEW FILES, then just write an e-mail like this: ----------- SEND ALL NEW FILES TO: your@email.adress ----------- Greets, Lonestar PS: I need one person who helps me with my english! Is there anyone who can correct the mistakes in my list? -- ############################################################################ # +--------------------------------+ # +---------------------------------+ # # | ODIN ENTERTAINMENT PRODUCTIONS | # | WWW.LONESTAR.BASE.ORG | # # +-+----------------------------+-+ # +-+-----------------------------+-+ # # | | HARD & SOFTWARE PRODUCTION | | # | | LONESTAR@KULMBACH.BAYNET.DE | | # # | +----------------------------+ | # | +-----------------------------+ | # # +--------------------------------+ # +---------------------------------+ # ############################################################################ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 30 11:56:30 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15709 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 11:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04140 for amos-out; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04135 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from kulmbach.baynet.de (kulmbach1.kulmbach.baynet.de [194.95.194.130]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29347 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from kulmbach.baynet.de by kulmbach.baynet.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA14309; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:01:44 -0700 From: Benjamin Asen Reply-To: Lonestar@kulmbach.baynet.de To: AoD Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 14:08:28 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: ODIN Entertainment Productions Subject: ALF - AMOS LIST FILES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: ############################################################### ### # ##### # # # # ##### # #### AMOS LIST FILES # # ##### # ############################################################### >> THIS IS A SERVICE BY ODIN ENTERTAINMENT PRODUCTIONS << ############################################################### To order a file just write the number of it and your e-mail adress into an e-mail to me: Lonestar@kulmbach.baynet.de For example: --------------------------- 0025 0003 0189 person@test.test.com --------------------------- If YOU have some new AMOS files, that are NOT in this list, please e-mail them to ME! Thanx! ############################################################### NUMBER : PROGRAM-NAME DESCRIPTION OF PROGRAM SIZE IN BYTES = IN KBYTES - DOWNLOAD TIME 1600 BYTE/S ############################################################### 0001 : Abk2Mod (v2.1) Converts AMOS Music Banks into Protracker Mods Size: 102982 Bytes = 100.6 KBytes - Download: 64.4 secs 0002 : Tank Duel Alien Breed III clone with Amos source code Size: 15077 Bytes = 14.7 KBytes - Download: 9.4 secs 0003 : ALotto win (v1.0) Generates random Lotto numbers Size: 70627 Bytes = 68.9 KBytes - Download: 44.1 secs 0004 : Alt.religion.amos Newsgroup FAQ Frequently asked questions about AMOS Size: 5321 Bytes = 5.2 KBytes - Download: 3.3 secs 0005 : Examples for the AMCAF extension (v1.4) Archive with all examples for the AMCAF extension v1.40 Size: 743584 Bytes = 726.2 KBytes - Download: 464.7 secs 0006 : Demoversion of AMCAF extension GERMAN (v1.4) Ueber 200 neue Befehle fuer AMOS Pro Size: 519338 Bytes = 507.2 KBytes - Download: 324.6 secs 0007 : Demoversion of AMCAF extension ENGLISH (v1.4) Over 200 new commands for AMOS Pro Size: 511374 Bytes = 499.4 KBytes - Download: 319.6 secs 0008 : AMOS geil Some great AMOS procedures Size: 93863 Bytes = 91.7 KBytes - Download: 58.7 secs 0009 : AMOSPro Multi ENV (v1.3) Select an .Env file on loading AMOSPro Size: 40144 Bytes = 39.2 KBytes - Download: 25.1 secs 0010 : Two AMOS accessories Show Mouse coordinates + Get zone coordinates easy Size: 6935 Bytes = 6.8 KBytes - Download: 4.3 secs 0011 : Demo of AMOSZine AMOS magazine from F1 Licenseware Size: 272017 Bytes = 265.6 KBytes - Download: 170.0 secs 0012 : Abstract datatype support Use C type structures with AMOS Size: 31978 Bytes = 31.2 KBytes - Download: 19.9 secs 0013 : AMOS guide An amigaguide helpfile for AMOS Size: 64978 Bytes = 63.5 KBytes - Download: 40.6 secs 0014 : AMOSPro MUI Demo Use MUI from AMOSPro Size: 66220 Bytes = 64.7 KBytes - Download: 41.4 secs 0015 : Anim to Bob Grab *.anim files like bobs using rubber banding Size: 9859 Bytes = 9.6 KBytes - Download: 6.2 secs 0016 : Art Coder Paint program that writes AMOS graphics code Size: 71761 Bytes = 70.1 KBytes - Download: 44.9 secs 0017 : Beast scroll 3 layered parallay scroll like "Shadow of the Beast" Size: 37101 Bytes = 36.2 KBytes - Download: 23.2 secs 0018 : CD32 Joypad Reads CD32 joypad from AMOS Size: 5484 Bytes = 5.4 KBytes - Download: 3.4 secs 0019 : EAN-13 code Calculates checksum in EAN13-codes Size: 730 Bytes = 0.7 KBytes - Download: 0.5 secs 0020 : Choose ENV Select an .Env file on loading AMOS 1.36 Size: 7585 Bytes = 7.4 KBytes - Download: 4.7 secs 0021 : Dairymen Soft Demos 2 nice szene-demos by Dairymen Soft Size: 120049 Bytes = 117.2 KBytes - Download: 75.0 secs 0022 : Deluxe Map Demo (v1.12) Demo of a new Screen-editor for AMOS Size: 169883 Bytes = 165.9 KBytes - Download: 106.2 secs ******* WAIT FOR: ******* DFunc (3146) -- Extension using the "dfunc.library" dizzy_clone (47440) -- Clone of the "Dizzy" series EasyLife14b (33456) -- Easylife Extension for AMOSPro Ercole_ext (2923) -- Extension with 10 new commands FSelExt (897) -- File Requester Extension galax (110429) -- Vertical scroll arcade shooter gtt (2033) -- Gets tool types in AMOS GuiComp (66048) -- GUI compiler patch GuiExt15 (119413) -- Very GOOD Intuition extension hrainbows (75731) -- AMOS rainbow designer IDCMP (6578) -- Example of Amos and Intuition interface_design (47005) -- User-interface-designer isms (10789) -- Intelligent Screen Manager System jwindows (410824) -- J-Windows new extension, preview monester_enemy (29748) -- Code for controlling enemies NTSC_PAL (4985) -- NTSC<>PAL switcher accessory Optim_Tips (4256) -- Optimisation tips for AMOS Phonebook_V2 (38775) -- Quick Phonebook PH_PROGS (11088) -- Five short usefull AMOS sources PowerBobs (166172) -- HIGH-speed extension for bobs ppAccessory10 (43826) -- Set of Accessory programs ProcLib3_0 (65394) -- A library of AMOS procedures pw_proce (223018) -- Power Procedures (intuition look) screenedv22 (93616) -- Good ScreenEd for games ect... siit (87500) -- Icon editor for AMOS(pro) space_fighter (55608) -- "Street Fighter" clone spritegr (68423) -- One-click sprite grabber SRM_V2_2 (17320) -- Upgrade to the Resource Bank Maker stormcrunch2 (92948) -- Cruncher for executables (AMOS) SupraProcedure (20338) -- Collection of procedures swarm (57723) -- Lines fly to mouse pointer TBSdemo9 (109052) -- Bob/Sprite editor THXLib06 (20814) -- Extension to play THX-Modules tscene1 (150505) -- Scene/map editor for TURBO Plus turbo1 (105186) -- Demo of TURBO Plus TwoPackers (14061) -- Two AmosPro Bank-packers unlocker (5046) -- Unlocks AMOS locked procedures VarCheck101 (11284) -- Update to easylife variable checker walk (192555) -- Source for dungeon walk like in Beholder ZoneEditor3 (66207) -- Zone-editor + Editor Enhancer -- ############################################################################ # +--------------------------------+ # +---------------------------------+ # # | ODIN ENTERTAINMENT PRODUCTIONS | # | WWW.LONESTAR.BASE.ORG | # # +-+----------------------------+-+ # +-+-----------------------------+-+ # # | | HARD & SOFTWARE PRODUCTION | | # | | LONESTAR@KULMBACH.BAYNET.DE | | # # | +----------------------------+ | # | +-----------------------------+ | # # +--------------------------------+ # +---------------------------------+ # ############################################################################ From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun Mar 30 10:29:21 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03289 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04039 for amos-out; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 09:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04036 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 09:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (golden.golden.net [199.166.210.2]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19679 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 09:38:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from golden.net (Giark@cisco4-203.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.203]) by golden.net (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA08904 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 09:38:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Mr. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 09:37:53 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: AB3DII MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: I've got the samples converted to iff (standard) format. I've got a bunch of the creatures and backdrops and such converted to hires 16 color (in 4 different palettes, to match the backdrops). I've got the esxplosions and weapons converted too. As is, you could make a zombies type game with these graphics. Anyone want the result of my conversions? [Or, I can just send the 500k file to the list! ;-)] Well met and godspeed, Giark joehick@golden.net http://www.golden.net/~joehick/fbn/index.html ______ ______ _____ .------------------------------------------. / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ! AMOS games, utilities, demos, etc. ! / /__ / /_/ / / / / / ! ! / ___/ / ___ | / / / / ! CyberSpace BBS (519)579-0072 ! / / / /__/ / / / / / ! on A2000 060/50MHz (519)579-0173 ! /_/ /______/ /_/ /_/ ! ! Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! ! FBN Amiga 500 020 14MHz 1C/5F RAM 3.1OS ! `------------------------------------------' From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue Apr 1 02:47:13 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06247 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 02:47:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA26753 for amos-out; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 01:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26750 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 01:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from foreigner.class.udg.mx (foreigner.class.udg.mx [148.202.3.5]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03426 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 01:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from slip-22.cencar.udg.mx (slip-22.cencar.udg.mx [148.202.33.122]) by foreigner.class.udg.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA14953 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 00:32:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <333F76BA.79D2@foreigner.class.udg.mx> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:32:58 -0800 From: Manuel Tonatiuh Moreno Reply-To: hugor@foreigner.staff.udg.mx X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amos-list@access.digex.net Subject: Re: AB3DII References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: Mr. Giark To You wrote: > I've got the samples converted to iff (standard) format. I've got a bunch of > the creatures and backdrops and such converted to hires 16 color (in 4 > different palettes, to match the backdrops). I've got the esxplosions and > weapons converted too. As is, you could make a zombies type game with these > graphics. Anyone want the result of my conversions? Sure! Please send them to me. More than use them I want to study them to improve my own graphics. > > [Or, I can just send the 500k file to the list! ;-)] > Oh! Thatīs a better idea! (just kidding, of course) -- ******************************* Be excellent to each other! (PLEASE!!) ******************************* From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon Mar 31 20:54:38 1997 Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09284 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20816 for amos-out; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20813 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.paston.co.uk (red.paston.co.uk [194.129.188.3]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04674 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from paston.co.uk ([194.129.188.201]) by red.paston.co.uk with SMTP id <843200-144>; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 01:33:59 +0100 From: Ben Wyatt To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 01:33:20 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Subject: Re: Message sizes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: On 29-Mar-97, Branko Collin sat on a keyboard and produced this mess: > >First, I don't have time to really police this list. > Then don't keep rules. They are more like guidelines. > >Third, I'll remove the limit from the list unless over half of > >you object (75 or more). Send it private email. > I do not object. However, I feel that even ten people who object should be > enough to keep a limit of some sort. After all, it is much easier to put a > file on a web or FTP site and announce it on the list. This way you keep the > list clear for discussions. It's all very well asking people to do this, but remember, people have been asked to stick to the 4k limit, yet they still send large files, and always will. It's more convenient for them and us. Personally, the only limit I think there should be is a limit to AMOS source or AMOS utilities, which are not available on Aminet. What I object to is people sending us their [large] programs which just happen to be written in AMOS. Something along these lines should be written in the AMOS List subscription introduction email. I can't seriously believe that anyone has a problem with recieving emails larger than 4k. If it really upsets them then they should unsubscribe. Bye ____________________________________________________ / \ / Ben Wyatt - bwyatt@paston.co.uk or b.wyatt@uea.ac.uk \ \ http://www.paston.co.uk/users/bwyatt/index.html / \____________________________________________________/ (c)1995-97 Very Interesting Signatures Ltd.