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Subject: DV1/DV2 Luma shift quirk
Date: Sat,  1 Jul 1995 05:50:00 GMT
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Does anyone know what might cause a difference in brightness between DV1
and DV2?  The station manager pointed this out to me today, and I haven't
got a clue what it could be.  You load the same image in both buffers, and
when switching between them (on the Preview bus, for example), there is a
noticible change in brightness between DV1 and DV2.  My only guess is that
it's some kind of hardware quirk.  The system with this bug is a 3000 with
Toaster system 3.1.

I don't know how long this has been going on.  I was just recently hired
at the station, and I've got the most Toaster experience in the bunch, but
I've never seen this before.  Any clues?
  
         Justin Barrett - justin.barrett@tenforward.com - 1:350/401
    Free Spirit Productions   -   Northland Cable   -   Peninsula College

 * Q-Blue 2.0 *
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Like many of you I had to return my Flyer to Newtek.  They
supplied me with a RA# and an Airborne Express account #.
Today I received a $25 bill from Airborne.  Anybody else get a
bill, or did I just not check the right box (Bill 3rd Party)?

Marc Dole 603-659-7778 * Alpha Animator / Amiga ReAnimator /
Flyer Pilot
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> Like many of you I had to return my Flyer to Newtek.  They
> supplied me with a RA# and an Airborne Express account #.
> Today I received a $25 bill from Airborne.  Anybody else get a
> bill, or did I just not check the right box (Bill 3rd Party)?

Uh, that's bad.  NewTek is supposed to take care of shipping charges. 
I'd give them a call or call the BBS and find out if they'll take the
bill, or bug Airborne Express about it.  Bill 3rd Party is the right box,
as far as I remeber.

Hope this helps a bit...

-- Joe

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Well...I let the Toaster "cool" down with the cover off. And by some miracle
of God the harddrive came back. Now I'll just leave it on..Till I back it
up. This brings me to my next question..Any recommendations on good
inexpensive tape backup?

Thanks for all the help.
Patriick@ix.Netcom.Com
Patrick M. Mirucki                                        Authorized
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On Sun, 2 Jul 1995, Patrick M. Mirucki wrote:

> Well...I let the Toaster "cool" down with the cover off. And by some miracle
> of God the harddrive came back. Now I'll just leave it on..

If you're running an Amiga 4000 then you really should keep the cover 
on...this computer will almost certainly overheat/burn up if you run it 
without the cover on.

If your hard-drive problem is heat related, then you may want to pick up 
a small fan from Radio Shack and put it inside the computer...if you 
don't have room inside, then take one of the slot back-plates off and put 
the fan near the opening so that it sucks air OUT of the computer.  You 
should try to put the fan as close to the over-heating hard drive as 
possible, but this is not mandatory.

I recently had problems with a new hard drive getting very hot inside of 
my A2000 and I had no way of installing a fan inside, so I went to Radio 
Shark  =)  and picked up a small AC powered fan...I removed a back-plate 
from one of my few empty slots and placed the fan as close to this 
opening as possible....it sucked enough air out of the computer to keep 
the hard drive nice and cool.

Tape backup options for the Amiga are rather limited, but I would 
definitely recommend getting on...I have a Caliper Touchdown 100 which 
backs up 250 megs worth of data on a DC-6250 type data cartridge...it 
does a good job but it seems as slow as a ONE-legged dog when I'm backing 
up the 5 gigabytes worth of storage I have between my 3 Amigas.  It's a 
standard SCSI device which will work with any SCSI controller...I paid  
about $800 for this unit back in 1992 or 1993.


                                      -David Warner
                                       Event Horizon Graphics


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> From:           justin.barrett@tenforward.com (Justin Barrett)
> Subject:        DV1/DV2 Luma shift quirk
> Date sent:      Sat,  1 Jul 1995 05:50:00 GMT
> Organization:   Ten Forward BBS in Port Angeles, WA 360.452.7681
> To:             toaster@webcom.com

> Does anyone know what might cause a difference in brightness between DV1
> and DV2?  The station manager pointed this out to me today, and I haven't
> got a clue what it could be.  You load the same image in both buffers, and
> when switching between them (on the Preview bus, for example), there is a
> noticible change in brightness between DV1 and DV2.  My only guess is that
> it's some kind of hardware quirk.  The system with this bug is a 3000 with
> Toaster system 3.1.
> 
> I don't know how long this has been going on.  I was just recently hired
> at the station, and I've got the most Toaster experience in the bunch, but
> I've never seen this before.  Any clues?
>   
>          Justin Barrett - justin.barrett@tenforward.com - 1:350/401
>     Free Spirit Productions   -   Northland Cable   -   Peninsula College



Yes we had this problem with the Toaster 2.0 on our 2000. It was 
something on the board. I think it was a chip related to the still 
stores. 

Get a hold of your dealer or Newtek Tech Support ( I know...good 
luck) and let them know. That's all it took for us.


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     North Dakota State University       NDSU Extension Communications
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Greetings,


Anybody know how many colors I am getting when rendering a clip from LW?
In other words, what is the color depth. Is it only 8 bits? 256 colors?
Or full NTSC?    I'm using 4.04.

Thanks,
     Ed
Jakobere@uwstout.edu
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Greetings,


Does anyone know how to get the CG to do a "super" right at a cut, or in
15 to 30 frames after a cut? How about doing a "super" over a series of 
cuts? (as in a title squence) Yes, I suppose I could rerecord the the clips 
with the "supers" in, but that seems a little half-assed.

Wish they had some switcher control croutons. Then I could switch this 
stuff myself... preload framestres and CGs well in advance, instead of waiting 
till the instant you need something, then load it.


Later,
     Ed
Jakobere@uwstout.edu

PS. sorry for grumbling... it's been a long weekend.
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David Hebel from Dimension Technologies wrote me stating the following:

 " As for issue 2 - its finished and is currently at press.  We should be 
getting them out by the end of next  week.  We will be sending ISSUE 2 out 
first class so that we can catch up and everyone gets theirs timely. (Well 
you get yours first class anyway
Ohhhh Canada).  You can let interneters know that in issue 2 will be
in color for A2000 members instead of greyscale.  This makes it look alot
closer to the AGA version.  Also the Music and sound effects can be played
directly from an audio CD player for people without sound cards or a flyer.
Most of the scene files and some RGB sequences from the Moving Backgrounds
and ANimations are included.  Since the scene files are mostly under 120
frames. it would not take long to render to anim format of choice.
Also issue 2 will contain 50 backgrounds from the Backdrop Construction Kit.
And a review of Fiber Factory.   Hope this helps answer your questions."

David Hebel
Dimension Technologies

==============================================================

I can't wait!!! (Foaming at the mouth and drooling)


If you would like to contact them to order a subscription or ask any 
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phone number is (814) 838-2184. There is also a toll free number which is 
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Hello group,
	As I eagerly await the release, finally, of the 4.x upgrade, and 
especially the ability to import many graphics formats with HIIP, I am 
left trying to get the most out of my old set-up.
	I recently found the little appendix on page 49 of the 2.0 manual 
that explains, sort of, the ability to import some 3d formats as well as 
PICT bitmap files.  This latter capability would be most helpful to me if 
I knew how to use it.  Unfortunately, the manual sends me on a "refer to 
this..." rat race that ends up back where I started, w/o explaining the 
process.  Can anyone help me to load PICT files into the Toaster 
(remember, I have System 2.0 on a 2000) using the TIO which the manual is 
touting?  I realize I could find a file converter and load the images as 
RGB or FS, but I would rather avoid the extra steps and/or expense, 
especially since I know that the upgrade, which I will be buying, is 
supposed to take care of this in a grand and comprehensive (well, more or 
less) way.

Thank you for all your help, personal replies to my address are welcome.

Dennis Rowley
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Hi, all you power-hungry Amiga LWers...

Here's something interesting:  Besides the RCS 060 (or Cold Fire) card
coming out in fall, I saw this ad for Visage Computers on page 68 of Amiga
Magazine (british mag), July 95 issue...

	4040/60	EXPECTED JUNE '95
		Apollo 4040/60 accellerator for the A4000
		Apollo 2040/60 accellerator for the A1500/A2000

interesting...

If anyone get more info on ANY 060s, please let me know.  I haven't
called the company to check this out (it's in the UK, and I can't afford
the phone bill :) ), but if anyone wants to, it's 0115-964-2828
(Fax 0115-964-2898)

-- Joe

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> Date sent:      Mon, 03 Jul 1995 11:18:23 -0600 (CST)
> From:           ED JAKOBER <JAKOBERE@uwstout.edu>
> Subject:        CG "super" at a cut?
> To:             toaster@webcom.com

> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to get the CG to do a "super" right at a cut, or in
> 15 to 30 frames after a cut? How about doing a "super" over a series of 
> cuts? (as in a title squence) Yes, I suppose I could rerecord the the clips 
> with the "supers" in, but that seems a little half-assed.
> 
> Wish they had some switcher control croutons. Then I could switch this 
> stuff myself... preload framestres and CGs well in advance, instead of waiting 
> till the instant you need something, then load it.
> 


Are you triggering the Toaster manually and what type of edit 
controller are you using? you should be able to set up your edit to 
give you enough time to load the super, perform it and have it up by 
the time the edit is taken.


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I was also billed by Airborne for returning my board to Midwestern 
Electronics. Just call the Customer Service number on your Airborne 
invoice (if you haven't already) and tell them the situation. They'll 
take care of it and tell you to ignore the invoice.

Keith Kavanaugh

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RCADWELL@ndsuext.nodak.edu (Randy Cadwell) wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know how to get the CG to do a "super" right at a cut, or in
>> 15 to 30 frames after a cut? How about doing a "super" over a series of
>> cuts? (as in a title squence) Yes, I suppose I could rerecord the the clips
>> with the "supers" in, but that seems a little half-assed.
>>
>> Wish they had some switcher control croutons. Then I could switch this
>> stuff myself... preload framestres and CGs well in advance, instead of waiting
>
>
>> till the instant you need something, then load it.
>>
>
>
>Are you triggering the Toaster manually and what type of edit
>controller are you using? you should be able to set up your edit to
>give you enough time to load the super, perform it and have it up by
>the time the edit is taken.
>

I'm sorry. I guess after reading my own question I wasn't very clear.
What I'm talking about is doing the above "super" in the FLYER.
If I were doing "traditional" editing, I wouldn't be having a problem.

Later,
     Ed
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Hi all,

     Has anyone had any luck reading SMPTE via the A serial port and
     the "officialy" endorsed Radio Shack adaptor?
     
     Doesn't seem work for me! I finally gave up and started a project 
     without. Maybe next time.
     
Later,
	Ed
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	I am using ASDG's Abekas driver for ADPro.  I have an
8200 exabyte drive connected to my 2000/040.  I rendered the
frames to D1 in Lightwave but it still wants to convert the
images to YUV in ADPro.  Shouldn't these images already be YUV.
The convertion in ADPro is taking 2plus minutes a frame, and
with 1230 frames to do, I could drive (ok maybe not drive) to
Europe and use a PAR or do something else quicker.


Marc Dole 603-659-7778 * Alpha Animator / Amiga ReAnimator /
Flyer Pilot
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On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Joe Angell wrote:

> 
> Hi, all you power-hungry Amiga LWers...
> 
> Here's something interesting:  Besides the RCS 060 (or Cold Fire) card
> coming out in fall, I saw this ad for Visage Computers on page 68 of Amiga
> Magazine (british mag), July 95 issue...
> 
> 	4040/60	EXPECTED JUNE '95
> 		Apollo 4040/60 accellerator for the A4000
> 		Apollo 2040/60 accellerator for the A1500/A2000
> 
> -- Joe

	I would be interested, if anyone knows anything more about the 
060 boards coming out, since I want to get one for my 4000. Ie prices, 
where to get them, when they are release, maybe some benchmarks...
	If anyone has any info, leave me some mail...

						  Adrian Onsen
						aonsen@sentex.net

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HELP!!

   When the Toaster 4000 came on the market, the PBS station where I work
decided to go the "Double Up" route, installing the new board and software
in our Amiga 2000 and keeping the old board & software in reserve until we
could afford to buy a Amiga 4000 and bring a second machine online.
   The college has finally managed to come through with the discretionary
funds, but do to the recent unpleasantness, none of the local computer or
broadcast equipment dealers can seem to lay their hands on an Amiga 4000.
>From what I gather from the trades and from the various electronic gather
places, there are 4000s out there, but you do have to hunt to find them
(and, of course, ESCOM is rumored to be restarting production in an
August-October timeframe)
   My question: can anyone furnish me with addresses/phone numbers of
dealers with A4000s in stock?

   -Pat Mullet
   Broadcast Engineer
   Delta Broadcasting  WUCM tv-19/ WUCX tv-35
   Delta College, MI 48710
   (517) 686-9344





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	I have worked with 2 systems that have both read TC with the Horita
TRG-50PC, the Radioshack null modem, plugged into serial A.
	You need to feed LTC TC out of the play deck and into the TC in of the
TRG-50PC (a BNC to RCA cable is needed in most systems.
	I did have a problem with one system that when it captured the TC it
wouldn't give you the Clip icon, and when it gave you the icon you didn't get
TC.
	You also won't see TC until you are in the control panel.

Marc Dole 603-659-7778 * Alpha Animator / Amiga ReAnimator / Flyer Pilot /
AVID editor
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> 	I am using ASDG's Abekas driver for ADPro.  I have an
> 8200 exabyte drive connected to my 2000/040.  I rendered the
> frames to D1 in Lightwave but it still wants to convert the
> images to YUV in ADPro.  Shouldn't these images already be YUV.
> The convertion in ADPro is taking 2plus minutes a frame, and
> with 1230 frames to do, I could drive (ok maybe not drive) to
> Europe and use a PAR or do something else quicker.

Nope. LW renders out RGB in D1 *pixel aspect*

We can usually pump out about 300-350 frames in an hour on one Exabyte...


JG
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<MADVIDEO@delphi.com> Marc Dole wrote: 
>
>     I have worked with 2 systems that have both read TC with the Horita
>TRG-50PC, the Radioshack null modem, plugged into serial A.
>     You need to feed LTC TC out of the play deck and into the TC in of the
>TRG-50PC (a BNC to RCA cable is needed in most systems.

I'm trying to get the SMPTE straight out the back of my deck, using the 9 
pin serial bus that's for editing control and reading SMPTE. This bus is 
the same in all BetaCam and high-end S-VHS editing decks. I'm using VITC, but 
that should make no difference at the serial bus. 
I really have no need for the TRG-50PC.

<SNIP>

>     You also won't see TC until you are in the control panel.

I'll check again, later... I'm not at my machine at the moment.

Thanks,
     Ed
Jakobere@uwstout.edu
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> HELP!!
> 
>    When the Toaster 4000 came on the market, the PBS station where I work
> decided to go the "Double Up" route, installing the new board and software
> in our Amiga 2000 and keeping the old board & software in reserve until we
> could afford to buy a Amiga 4000 and bring a second machine online.
>    The college has finally managed to come through with the discretionary
> funds, but do to the recent unpleasantness, none of the local computer or
> broadcast equipment dealers can seem to lay their hands on an Amiga 4000.
> >From what I gather from the trades and from the various electronic gather
> places, there are 4000s out there, but you do have to hunt to find them
> (and, of course, ESCOM is rumored to be restarting production in an
> August-October timeframe)
>    My question: can anyone furnish me with addresses/phone numbers of
> dealers with A4000s in stock?

In VTU, under Mike Danger's The Way I See It column, he mentions that Area
52 (1-800-730-0085) claims they have obsene amounts of A4000s.  Their ad says
they have A400s in stock, too.  Just checked they're ad -- top of the page
says "FREE TOASTER with the purchase of Flyer".  They mean bread & butter,
right?  Anyway, they're a mail order house, but I have no idea where
they're located (Nevada? :) )

Hope this helps...

-- Joe

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From: ED JAKOBER <JAKOBERE@uwstout.edu>
>I'm trying to get the SMPTE straight out the back of my deck, using the 9
>pin serial bus that's for editing control and reading SMPTE. This bus is
>the same in all BetaCam and high-end S-VHS editing decks. I'm using VITC, but
>that should make no difference at the serial bus.
>I really have no need for the TRG-50PC.


	I tried doing what you have done to no avail.  The 9pin on the Flyer
wants LTC serial TC.  You are giving it SMPTE VITC, doesn't work.  Since the
TRG-50PC ($500 +/-) is a bit expensive for what we need done you may want to
call Horita or your local Toaster dealer and order the PR-232 (lists for $179)
and avail soon.
	Horita is 714-489-0240
	My local dealer (In Boston) is Crimson Tech 800-321-5150 x686 Jan
	Yours may differ.

Marc Dole 603-659-7778 * Alpha Animator / Amiga ReAnimator / Flyer Pilot /
AVID editor
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On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Joe Angell wrote:

> >    My question: can anyone furnish me with addresses/phone numbers of
> > dealers with A4000s in stock?
> 
> In VTU, under Mike Danger's The Way I See It column, he mentions that Area
> 52 (1-800-730-0085) claims they have obsene amounts of A4000s.  Their ad says
> they have A400s in stock, too.  Just checked they're ad -- top of the page
> says "FREE TOASTER with the purchase of Flyer".  They mean bread & butter,
> right?  Anyway, they're a mail order house, but I have no idea where
> they're located (Nevada? :) )

FYI - Area 52 is located outside of New York City, on loverly Long Island.
and YES, there are 4000's there!

How do I know?
 
I have had both a 4000 and a 4000T in my studio from A52 over the last 3 
months.

Give David a call.....


louie



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I have a Micropolis 1 Gig Hard drive. Does anybody no the jumper connections
for the Sccsi address?

The drive comes up on all the addresses.

:)
Patriick@ix.Netcom.Com
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Video Kraftwerks, Inc.                                  
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	I checked the JPGs at xensei and I could download and read them.  my
Browser software is having probs displaying JPGs period.  I am running a
windows app on my Alpha NT.
	Since they downloaded ok I uploaded the rest.  I still think it takes
tooo long to upload, downloads in a fraction of the time.

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AVID editor
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On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Patrick M. Mirucki wrote:

> I have a Micropolis 1 Gig Hard drive. Does anybody no the jumper connections
> for the Sccsi address?

Yup!  This is from a manual for a Micropolis 4110 drive, but it should 
apply for most (if not all) models...looking at the front of the drive, 
with the led on the far left, the first jumper is for a remote LED light, 
and the next three jumpers are for configuring the SCSI ID...here's a 
(sort of) diagram:

            +-------------------------------------------+
            !  O   :  :  :  :  :  :  :  :  :  :  :  :   !
            +--!---!--!--!--!---------------------------+
       LED ___/   /  /  /  /   Miscellaneous Jumpers
Remote LED ______/  /  /  /   
       ID0 ________/  /  /    
       ID1 __________/  /    SCSI ID Jumper Configurations
       ID2 ____________/   ---------------------------------
                             #  !  ID0  !  ID1  !  ID2  !
                           -----+-------+-------+-------+
                             0  !  out  !  out  !  out  !
                             1  !  out  !  out  !  in   !
                             2  !  out  !  in   !  out  !
                             3  !  out  !  in   !  in   !
                             4  !  in   !  out  !  out  !
                             5  !  in   !  out  !  in   !
                             6  !  in   !  in   !  out  !
                             7  !  in   !  in   !  in   ! - Default

 
> The drive comes up on all the addresses.

Oddly enough, the default jumper configuration (SCSI ID #7) happens to be 
the one SCSI ID that is the least compatible with most SCSI controller 
cards, because SCSI ID #7 is usually reserved for the controller card 
itself.  So, remove one of the SCSI ID jumpers and you should be all 
set...if you have other drives in the SCSI chain, then you'll have to 
pick an ID that is different from all the other devices.

I've had this problem before, with the drive showing up on all addresses, 
and it left me scratching my head for a few minutes until I consulted the 
manual ("When all else fails...") and saw that the default SCSI ID is #7.

This should solve your problem....

                                      -David Warner
                                       Event Horizon Graphics


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Due to a severe malfunction of the internet connnection at work, I am unable
to check my accounts periodically to handle any mailing list administrative
tasks during the day.  I can't promise checking the accounts at night either
but I'll try to take care of things when I can.  Since the ISP we have (I
should say HAD) can't seem to get Sprint to get the problems fixed, we will
be switching to a new ISP hopefully tomorrow.

I also noticed that my first attempt to post to both mailing lists on Webcom
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Anyway, have fun and render on.
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Here's some new Amiga news I thought I'd pass along to the Toaster list...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

(This fax was recieved by Microtech Solutions, my local Amiga dealership, 
and posted publically on their BBS today, July 7)

FAX recieved today from CEI:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

7 July 1995

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Creative Equipment International is pleased to announce that it will
distribute the new line of Amiga computers through CEI dealers in North and
South America. The first machines are already being built by Amiga
Technologies in the United States and should be available in last part of
Q3.

Alex Amor President of CEI states, "We are excited to be able to
re-introduce the Amiga back into the Americas. This agreement opens the
door for joint future projects under discussions. We are and have always
been committed to the Amiga."

Ed Goff, Amiga Technologies North American representative states, "We are
extremely pleased that CEI will be distributing the Amiga into North and
South America. They will be bringing a strong dealer network and countless
years of Amiga experience."

The new Amiga 4000T is being positioned as a high end video workstation.
The base model will have a Motorola 68040 processor operating at 25Mhz. The
new 4000T will be packaged in a sleek tower unit. Exact pricing and
specifications will be announced shortly.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Excerpts from separate dealer letter:

Good news as promised! The Amiga 4000T will be the first machine to be
available. New models will follow shortly thereafter. In North America,
Amiga Technologies GmbH is concentrating on the high end desktop video
market first. CEI is assisting Amiga Technologies in various aspects of
creative marketing and product development.

The Amiga 4000T will be a tower based model with the Motorola 68040
processor operating at 25Mhz. Initial configurations are expected to be 6MB
of Ram and 540MB hard disk. Introductory pricing is set for a street price
of $3499.00. CEI will be offering different configurations including
complete Flyer workstations ready to plug and play.

We realize that the price of the Amiga 4000T is slightly higher than we all
would have wished. At the same token there is pent up market demand and the
A4000T/Flyer combo is still unbeatable.

We are quite excited about Amiga's long term prospects. During the coming
months, you will see a number of announcements that will regain our
dominance in the multimedia markets.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Gee, $3,500 for a 25mhz 040....that's a deal!  I hope Escom has some 
serious plans for pricing this machine appropriately...it would probably 
still be overpriced at $1,500 considering what you can buy from IBM or 
Apple these days.

Oh well, it'll be good to see Amiga parts available again...and I guess 
Escom has to start somewhere.

                                      -David Warner
                                       Event Horizon Graphics


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             I just bought a Sunrize AD516 card to use with my PAR and
can't find any info in either manual on how to make them record or playback
simultaneously.  I tried to set up an Arexx track on the AD516 and give it
a port name of DDR and a command of PLAY,  and it does recognize the port,
but the PAR doesn't respond.  What am I doing wrong?  Are there any other
programs that can be used to run the two of them together?  I tried Digital
Soundtrack and still no luck. Please let me know.  Thanks.


Bruce B. Mittelman

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<---- Begin Included Message ---->

             I just bought a Sunrize AD516 card to use with my PAR and
can't find any info in either manual on how to make them record or playback
simultaneously.  I tried to set up an Arexx track on the AD516 and give it
a port name of DDR and a command of PLAY,  and it does recognize the port,
but the PAR doesn't respond.  What am I doing wrong?  Are there any other
programs that can be used to run the two of them together?  I tried Digital
Soundtrack and still no luck. Please let me know.  Thanks.


<---- End Included Message ---->

At my company, SSK Creatives, we use the PAR and the AD516 together quite 
extensively. The way we do it is to use the SMPTE feature on the PAR. Once you 
have recorded your animation on the PAR and have finished your soundtrack, put 
the time that the soundtrack starts into the SMPTE register on the PAR. Make 
sure that the AD516 has the SMPTE generator on (or in the case that you are 
recording to tape, use the SMPTE monitor, making sure you have created a 
correct time code path), put the animation in play/pause and start the 
sountrack (either through the time code out from your record deck or by 
pressing play on the AD516). This should do it.

If you have any more questions, contact me directly.

Steve Soltz
President / Animator
SSK Creatives, Inc.
ssoltz@mail.multiverse.com



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Over the past week or so, there appears to be a severe routing problem with
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all be fixes is beyond me but I sure do hate it!

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Pardon me if this question is off topic, but...

	Am I the only person in the world who can't get mosaic up and 
running on an Amiga?

	I have downloaded all the files, according to the article in 
Amiga World, and done everything step-by-step.

	However, the downloaded AmiTCP demo fails to preserve the 
directory structure.. It keeps asking for some file, and I shut it down, 
find the file, make a directory where the program seems to expect to find 
it, try again, and some other file can't be found! There are some files 
that don't seem to be there at all! HELP! 

	Can anyone offer (or point me to) a Complete Idiot's guide to 
installing this stuff? I'm completely lost!

Thanks for any help you can give.

signed,
Webless in Ohio

Kim Stickler
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For those of you who want to write 3rd party plug ins....I read on the NEWTEK
BBS  1-913-271-9299  that they are having a meeting in the next few days.  It
is FREE and will last two days.  
Get your tickets and head for Topeka.
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Anyone experience clip icons changing from their normal video graphic to 
a generic movie clip icon?  Then when you try to play it, it crashes the 
system.  It really is a nuisance when it happens to an animation clip 
that took 4 days to render and your only solution is to rerender.

I believe it might have happened when I tried to reorganize my drives.  
Not sure though.

Mark, when do you expect your lightwave in focus to start shipping, I'm 
getting very anxious.

Hope to hear from ya,

Mario Cascio
ProMotion
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On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Mario Cascio wrote:

> 
> Anyone experience clip icons changing from their normal video graphic to 
> a generic movie clip icon?  Then when you try to play it, it crashes the 
> system.  It really is a nuisance when it happens to an animation clip 
> that took 4 days to render and your only solution is to rerender.
> 
> I believe it might have happened when I tried to reorganize my drives.  
> Not sure though.
> 

Try copying the clip to your other drive, sometimes that brings them 
back. If it doesn't, try putting it in sequence, going into control, fine 
tune, and then cutting room. After that set in and outs at the beginning 
& end (even though they already are) and click on continue. It might work.

Has anyone ever restored a project and got a Marbles - looking icon 
instead of the real one?


Hope this helps...


J. David - Video GT
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Is there a utility program that will batch process a series of old 
framestores and create framestore icons?


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Visual Inspirations is developing a program for batch processing and
controling many FLYER functions. This is one that they just recently
completed. The program is called Control Tower it will also batch clips2iff,
iff2clips, allow processing and rerecording of clips thorough ImageF/X,
recording of clips with CG overlays, etc. You can contact Jeff at Visual
Inspirations at (813) -935-6410. It's currently in beta but if you have a
pressing need Jeff is pretty helpful.

Hope this helps
Robert <just trying to FLY-r> Coates
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Welp.  We've switched internet providers at work and we're once again able
to go all over the place on the net.  This means I can now check in on my
other two (soon to be one) accounts to get list things taken care of.

I'd also like to say that, as of this morning, the "Reply-To:" field may be
removed from all messages temporarily.  Apparently, a message was posted to
Lightwave and the 3DStudio mailing list.  The bizarre thing is that messages
are bouncing back from the darn 3DStudio list and coming back to ME (as well
as the postmaster of each respective site) with one message bounce per
Lightwave mailing list subscriber!  Webcom says it the problem is on
Autodesk's end and I certainly hope whatever it is is fixed shortly.

One last thing I'd like to pass on to everyone that I've asked for my Netcom
account to be closed.  Therefore, address all mailing list concerns to
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djmccoy@primenet.com or dan@acti.com.

Thanks for your time and render on!
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Welp.  We've switched internet providers at work and we're once again able
to go all over the place on the net.  This means I can now check in on my
other two (soon to be one) accounts to get list things taken care of.

I'd also like to say that, as of this morning, the "Reply-To:" field may be
removed from all messages temporarily.  Apparently, a message was posted to
Lightwave and the 3DStudio mailing list.  The bizarre thing is that messages
are bouncing back from the darn 3DStudio list and coming back to ME (as well
as the postmaster of each respective site) with one message bounce per
Lightwave mailing list subscriber!  Webcom says it the problem is on
Autodesk's end and I certainly hope whatever it is is fixed shortly.

One last thing I'd like to pass on to everyone that I've asked for my Netcom
account to be closed.  Therefore, address all mailing list concerns to
either owner-lightwave@webcom.com, owner-toaster@webcom.com,
djmccoy@primenet.com or dan@acti.com.

Thanks for your time and render on!
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From owner-toaster@webcom.com Thu Jul 13 17:42:23 1995
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When I play back flyer clips, sometimes I get a green tint output.  After 
starting in different places in the script, I found that it wasn't the 
same clips that were green each time.  After stopping the video and 
looking at the switcher sceen, I noticed that each time a green tint clip 
was being played, it was comming from source 3.  The flyer also used 
source 4 and that played back fine. Has anyone had a similar problem and 
there is a quick fix, or should I give Newtek a call?

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   |   Sounds Easy Video    |     Amiga A4000 GVP 68040 40mhz  66MB      |
   |      Productions       |    Video Toaster/Flyer   Lightwave 3.5     |
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I have a large number of video tapes that require editing - they are all 
in PAL format. What is the best way to get these into NTSC and into the 
Flyer for editing - or, to get the flyer to operate in PAL? The end 
product would be required in both PAL and NTSC.

Anyone have experience in this area?

   Ian Lancaster                           ilancast@juliet.stfx.ca
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Hi
I just sent in my Flyer for the cap change.  With the Flyer out I don't
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Flyer conflict with no luck.  Did this happen to others of you?  If so
I would be very thankful for HELPbb
 
 
 
 
 
 
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I'm working with a client who has a Flyer in his Amiga 4000 Tower, with 
a Toaster 4000...he has two 4gig video drives and a 540meg audio drive.
I just picked up the 4.04 and 4.04b upgrades and installed them for him, 
but we're still having one major problem that's been plaguing the system 
since we upgraded to version 4.0....

When an audio clip is moved into a program timeline for playback we keep 
getting a "Audio drive not available" message or something like that....if
we double click on the audio clip icon, it plays fine.

Now, the WEIRD thing is that if we reformat the audio drive and then 
redigitize or move the audio clip back onto the audio drive, it will work 
fine for the rest of the time that the computer is on.  As soon as we 
turn the machine off and on again the problem with playing audio clips in 
a program comes back and persists until we reformat the drive again!
So, we have a workaround for the problem, but it's a pain in the ass!

I had hoped that the audio problems would be corrected with the 4.04 
upgrade, but aside from the backup software improvements, there is not 
much else that was fixed on this new version.

Anyone have any suggestions?

                                      -David Warner
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On Fri, 14 Jul 1995 davewarner@globalone.net wrote:
> 
> When an audio clip is moved into a program timeline for playback we keep 
> getting a "Audio drive not available" message or something like that....if
> we double click on the audio clip icon, it plays fine.
> 
I was haveing this problem I think it was caused by npowering up my 
drives after turning on the amiga. My machine's been down for a couple 
of weeks so I don't remember exactly although it did fix some problems I 
was having to make sure I turned on my A/V drives before I turned on my 
Amiga.

Jim
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> I just sent in my Flyer for the cap change.  With the Flyer out I don't
> seem to be able to boot up my 4000.  I looked in the start-up files for a
> Flyer conflict with no luck.  Did this happen to others of you?  If so
> I would be very thankful for HELPbb

I've had no problem with my A2000 since I removed the Flyer (except for a
totally unrelated GVP SCSI failure),  I did remove (or rather, I commented
out (with a ; ) the line in the User-Startup that mentioned FlyerInit,
since there's no Flyer anymore...

Don't know if this is any help.

-- Joe

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On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Ian Lancaster wrote:

> I have a large number of video tapes that require editing - they are all 
> in PAL format. What is the best way to get these into NTSC and into the 
> Flyer for editing - or, to get the flyer to operate in PAL? The end 
> product would be required in both PAL and NTSC.
> 
> Anyone have experience in this area?
> 
>    Ian Lancaster                           ilancast@juliet.stfx.ca
>    St. Francis Xavier University           "Questions?"
>    Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada               
> 
> --

The Flyer is an NTSC machine only and the only way to get the footage into
it is to transcode it from PAL to NTSC.  If you can rent or borrow an NTSC
transcoder and grab the footage into the Flyer directly, otherwise you will
need to send the tapes out and have them converted resulting in an extra
generation.

                                           Manuel Desantos
                                              Media Production
                                       Norfolk Public Schools TV 47

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On Thu, 13 Jul 1995 susong@usgvltao.snads.philips.nl wrote:

>  
> Hi
> I just sent in my Flyer for the cap change.  With the Flyer out I don't
> seem to be able to boot up my 4000.  I looked in the start-up files for a
> Flyer conflict with no luck.  Did this happen to others of you?  If so
> I would be very thankful for HELPbb
>  

you need to boot without a startup sequence and REM out the lines that
are for the CD-Rom drive, ie put ";" in front of all of the lines that
refer to the Asim Driver and that might work I hope.  To boot up with 
no startup-sequence, hold both mouse buttons and you wil see a boot menu.
click on the bottom button that says startup-sequence enable and then disable
it.  Then type "ed s:user-startup" and put the ";"s in front of all 
references to the  Asim Drivers.
 
                                     Manuel Desantos
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On Fri, 14 Jul 1995 davewarner@globalone.net wrote:

> 
> I'm working with a client who has a Flyer in his Amiga 4000 Tower, with 
> a Toaster 4000...he has two 4gig video drives and a 540meg audio drive.
> I just picked up the 4.04 and 4.04b upgrades and installed them for him, 
> but we're still having one major problem that's been plaguing the system 
> since we upgraded to version 4.0....
> 
> When an audio clip is moved into a program timeline for playback we keep 
> getting a "Audio drive not available" message or something like that....if
> we double click on the audio clip icon, it plays fine.
> 
> Now, the WEIRD thing is that if we reformat the audio drive and then 
> redigitize or move the audio clip back onto the audio drive, it will work 
> fine for the rest of the time that the computer is on.  As soon as we 
> turn the machine off and on again the problem with playing audio clips in 
> a program comes back and persists until we reformat the drive again!
> So, we have a workaround for the problem, but it's a pain in the ass!
> 
> I had hoped that the audio problems would be corrected with the 4.04 
> upgrade, but aside from the backup software improvements, there is not 
> much else that was fixed on this new version.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions?
> 
>                                       -David Warner
>                                        Event Horizon Graphics
> 
> 
We had the same problems with our 540 meg HD.  When we swapped it for a 
1 Gig drive the problem disappeared.  I think it might be drive speed.

                                             Manuel Desantos
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>Hi I just sent in my Flyer for the cap change.  With the Flyer out I don't
>seem to be able to boot up my 4000.  I looked in the start-up files for a
>Flyer conflict with no luck.  Did this happen to others of you?  If so I
>would be very thankful for HELPbb
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ____        1   \                         Dan Susong



The Flyerinit in the user startup needs to be overwritten.  Place your
Workbench or some other bootable disk in the drive and start up the computer.
Enter shell and edit your user-startup and place a ";" before the Flyerinit
command.  This should do the trick.


Marc Dole 603-659-7778 * Alpha Animator / Amiga ReAnimator / Flyer Pilot /
AVID editor
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>When an audio clip is moved into a program timeline for playback we keep
>getting a "Audio drive not available" message or something like that....if
>we double click on the audio clip icon, it plays fine.



A client of mine had the same problem and we found it to be a hard drive that
was incompatable with the Video to Audio Hard drive ratio in the Flyer.

	My client had 4 9gigs for Video, and 1 1gig for audio.  He kept
getting the no Audio drive error until we installed a 4 gig drive for Audio.

	Newtek said that there was a relationship between the sive of Video
and Audio drives but they don't currently have the formula.

>...he has two 4gig video drives and a 540meg audio drive.

	This ratio seems close to the popular 2 9gigs and 1 1gig, but you
might want to try another size audio drive.

Marc Dole 603-659-7778 * Alpha Animator / Amiga ReAnimator / Flyer Pilot /
AVID editor
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On 10-Jul-95 10:28:19, Mario Cascio (cascio@it.uwp.edu) E-Mailed:

> Anyone experience clip icons changing from their normal video graphic to
>  a generic movie clip icon?  Then when you try to play it, it crashes
> the  system.  It really is a nuisance when it happens to an animation
> clip  that took 4 days to render and your only solution is to rerender.

> I believe it might have happened when I tried to reorganize my drives.
> Not sure though.

NewTek has admitted that there are some bugs in the Reorganize function,
and they advise that some problems like this may occur if it is used. The
only thing that works well right now is a backup, format, and restore.

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On 13-Jul-95 20:47:00, Michael Day (mjd@clark.net) E-Mailed:

> When I play back flyer clips, sometimes I get a green tint output.
> After  starting in different places in the script, I found that it
> wasn't the  same clips that were green each time.  After stopping the
> video and  looking at the switcher sceen, I noticed that each time a
> green tint clip  was being played, it was comming from source 3.  The
> flyer also used  source 4 and that played back fine. Has anyone had a
> similar problem and  there is a quick fix, or should I give Newtek a
> call?

Simple Fix: Run AutoHue, then run FlyerCalibrate. Any time you have a
color shift between channel 3 & 4 playback, it's time to run
FlyerCalibrate.

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I have a 9Gig Micropolis drive without a case to mount it in - a bit of a 
problem in the short term.

Here's the question. I have a PC chassis (a Panasonic Business Partner 
it's called on the case). I had stripped it down, yanked all the cards 
etc., exept for the motherboard, and have been using it to power a couple 
of DPS TBC's. No problem there. 

There is plenty of room since all the drives are out, and lots of power 
plugs. Could I use this as a housing and power supply for the 9Gigger? 
The physical fit seems to be no problem, and there is a fan through the 
power supply. I am assuming that the power on the plugs is standard - is it?

I have SCSI in out chassis mount plugs salvaged from an old drive, and 
SCSI ID  can be set with jumpers.

Anyone see any problems with this? 

Cheers - Ian

   Ian Lancaster                           ilancast@juliet.stfx.ca
   St. Francis Xavier University           "Questions?"
   Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada               

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On Sun, 16 Jul 1995, Ian Lancaster wrote:

> I have a 9Gig Micropolis drive without a case to mount it in - a bit of a 
> problem in the short term.
> 
> Anyone see any problems with this? 
> 
> Cheers - Ian

Ian,
I use a PC tower chasie for all my Flyer drives no problem.

Jim
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On Sun, 16 Jul 1995, Jim Carter wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jul 1995, Ian Lancaster wrote:
> 
> > I have a 9Gig Micropolis drive without a case to mount it in - a bit of a 
> > problem in the short term.
> > 
> > Anyone see any problems with this? 

> Ian,
> I use a PC tower chasie for all my Flyer drives no problem.

Great - just what I wanted to hear!

Thanks - Ian
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To: John Crookshank <johnc@mcs.com>
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On Sun, 16 Jul 1995, John Crookshank wrote:

> On 10-Jul-95 10:28:19, Mario Cascio (cascio@it.uwp.edu) E-Mailed:
> 
> > Anyone experience clip icons changing from their normal video graphic to
> >  a generic movie clip icon?  Then when you try to play it, it crashes
> > the  system.  It really is a nuisance when it happens to an animation
> > clip  that took 4 days to render and your only solution is to rerender.
> 
> > I believe it might have happened when I tried to reorganize my drives.
> > Not sure though.
> 
> NewTek has admitted that there are some bugs in the Reorganize function,
> and they advise that some problems like this may occur if it is used. The
> only thing that works well right now is a backup, format, and restore.
> 
Thanks to all who replied to my post.  

Mario Cascio
ProMotion
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On 09-Jul-95 08:50:40, davewarner (davewarner@globalone.net) E-Mailed:

> Here's some new Amiga news I thought I'd pass along to the Toaster
> list...

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---

> (This fax was recieved by Microtech Solutions, my local Amiga
> dealership,  and posted publically on their BBS today, July 7)

> FAX recieved today from CEI:

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---

> 7 July 1995

> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

> Creative Equipment International is pleased to announce that it will
> distribute the new line of Amiga computers through CEI dealers in North
> and South America. The first machines are already being built by Amiga
> Technologies in the United States and should be available in last part
> of Q3.

> Alex Amor President of CEI states, "We are excited to be able to
> re-introduce the Amiga back into the Americas. This agreement opens the
> door for joint future projects under discussions. We are and have always
> been committed to the Amiga."

> Ed Goff, Amiga Technologies North American representative states, "We
> are extremely pleased that CEI will be distributing the Amiga into North
> and South America. They will be bringing a strong dealer network and
> countless years of Amiga experience."

> The new Amiga 4000T is being positioned as a high end video workstation.
> The base model will have a Motorola 68040 processor operating at 25Mhz.
> The new 4000T will be packaged in a sleek tower unit. Exact pricing and
> specifications will be announced shortly.

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---

> Excerpts from separate dealer letter:

> Good news as promised! The Amiga 4000T will be the first machine to be
> available. New models will follow shortly thereafter. In North America,
> Amiga Technologies GmbH is concentrating on the high end desktop video
> market first. CEI is assisting Amiga Technologies in various aspects of
> creative marketing and product development.

> The Amiga 4000T will be a tower based model with the Motorola 68040
> processor operating at 25Mhz. Initial configurations are expected to be
> 6MB of Ram and 540MB hard disk. Introductory pricing is set for a street
> price of $3499.00. CEI will be offering different configurations
> including complete Flyer workstations ready to plug and play.

> We realize that the price of the Amiga 4000T is slightly higher than we
> all would have wished. At the same token there is pent up market demand
> and the A4000T/Flyer combo is still unbeatable.

> We are quite excited about Amiga's long term prospects. During the
> coming months, you will see a number of announcements that will regain
> our dominance in the multimedia markets.

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---


> Gee, $3,500 for a 25mhz 040....that's a deal!  I hope Escom has some
> serious plans for pricing this machine appropriately...it would probably
>  still be overpriced at $1,500 considering what you can buy from IBM or
> Apple these days.

> Oh well, it'll be good to see Amiga parts available again...and I guess
> Escom has to start somewhere.

>                                       -David Warner
>                                        Event Horizon Graphics

Well, it seems that Alex Amor from CEI was a bit premature in sending that
fax out, since a few days afterwards, ESCOM denied that any prices had yet
been set for the US market. Somehow, I smell a serious back-pedal here...

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On 16-Jul-95 23:22:33, Ian Lancaster (ilancast@juliet.stfx.ca) E-Mailed:

> I have a 9Gig Micropolis drive without a case to mount it in - a bit of
> a  problem in the short term.

> Here's the question. I have a PC chassis (a Panasonic Business Partner
> it's called on the case). I had stripped it down, yanked all the cards
> etc., exept for the motherboard, and have been using it to power a
> couple  of DPS TBC's. No problem there.

> There is plenty of room since all the drives are out, and lots of power
> plugs. Could I use this as a housing and power supply for the 9Gigger?
> The physical fit seems to be no problem, and there is a fan through the
> power supply. I am assuming that the power on the plugs is standard - is
> it?

> I have SCSI in out chassis mount plugs salvaged from an old drive, and
> SCSI ID  can be set with jumpers.

> Anyone see any problems with this?

This is all that the advertised "Flyer chassis" cases are, such as the
"Drive In", etc. Nothing more than a PC mini-tower case with some external
SCSI connectors added. Some do not even have actual slots for powering
devices like your TBC's.

Go for it...

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On Sun, 16 Jul 1995, John Crookshank wrote:

> Well, it seems that Alex Amor from CEI was a bit premature in sending that
> fax out, since a few days afterwards, ESCOM denied that any prices had yet
> been set for the US market. Somehow, I smell a serious back-pedal here...

I hope so!  I'd much rather see Escom do a back-pedal and announce a 
realistic price for this machine.  The more I think about that $3,500 
price tag, the more I shake my head....either they're wildly optimistic
about the demand for Amiga hardware by video professionals, or they've 
been taking advice from Mehdi Ali.

It's still way to early to pass judgement on Escom's efforts though...I 
just hope they're paying attention to the reactions most people had when 
they heard about the wickedly expensive A4000Tower.

                                      -David Warner
                                       Event Horizon Graphics


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I just recieved DPS Perception.  Looks like DPS rushed it out 
the door in a hurry.  The product works absolutely fine, but
few information seems to be missing from the manual.  Does
anyone no if this thing supports IFF & whats MIRROR requestor?
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The current shipping Perceptions have the initial release of the Windows
software.  It is fully functional but both it and the manual are being
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The mirror directory is our method of making the files on the PVR drive
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At 09:25 AM 7/19/95 +0900, Ro Sato wrote:
>I just recieved DPS Perception.  Looks like DPS rushed it out 
>the door in a hurry.  The product works absolutely fine, but
>few information seems to be missing from the manual.  Does
>anyone no if this thing supports IFF & whats MIRROR requestor?
>Ro Sato         ALPHA INC.                                                 
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I just purchased a FLYER for my Amiga 2000 and am about to install it. 
I have the AMIGA OS 2.04 and I believe I have seen on this list that 
you need the 2.1 software for the flyer to work properly. Is this true 
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I've been told by Newtek that if you scan a directory of old framestores 
with the Flyer, the flyer will automatically create framestore icons and 
the same applies to effects. However, it does work for me, what about you.
 
Also, when I save flyer clips to the drive, I occassionaly will get the 
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name. Annoying little bug. Splat!

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> I've been told by Newtek that if you scan a directory of old framestores 
> with the Flyer, the flyer will automatically create framestore icons and 
> the same applies to effects. However, it does work for me, what about you.

Not me either.  It just shows the little movie image.  Maybe they're
thinking of SAVING images and clips...?

Got a problem of my own... has anyone had problems with IFF2CLIP in the
Editor making VERY bright animations?  I just tried it (my Flyer FINALLY
got back from NewTek Limbo...)  DV1 & 2 look OK, but the anim is too
bright... <sigh>  Flyer Calibrate time...

Thanx, all...

-- JOe

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Does anyone know where I can get an on-screen clock? We often use a  
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CG had this feature, but I haven't found anything that would let me do  
this with the Toaster. Can anyone help?

thanks,
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On Thu, 20 Jul 1995, Kevin Kierer wrote:

> I just purchased a FLYER for my Amiga 2000 and am about to install it. 
> I have the AMIGA OS 2.04 and I believe I have seen on this list that 
> you need the 2.1 software for the flyer to work properly. Is this true 
> and where can I get this software if I do indeed need it? Thanks for 
> any help!
> 
>      Sincerely,
> 
>            Kevin Kierer
> 

Hi, as far as I know you need at least 2.1, 3.1 works as well and easier
to get hold of though if you get 3.1 you need to change you're ROM chips.
I got my 2.1 from a dealer who said he had no problems giving it to me 
since it's not being produced anymore. If you can't find it write me 
privately mabe we could work out a trade.

Jim 
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Can anyone give me the ftp address of AMINET.  I have no trouble with the
netscape connection but it tries to download in ascii on screen rather than
file transfer.

Ulti-Media Productions
Stevens Video Productions      Andy Stevens
P.O. Box 444                         astevens@sos.sos.net
Anacortes, WA 98221

1-206-293-7044
1-206-299-2524

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I've recently reinstalled Toaster 3.1. We were previously running 2.0,
even though we owned 3.1....for reasons too long for this post.

Anyhow, after reinstalling 3.1, the CG program refuses to recognize 
any of the postscript fonts.  When I click on the font to add it to the
current font list, I get a message that says "unrecognized font type".

Unfortunately I do not have access to our program disks because the
University keeps them locked away in storage for security.  Getting them 
out is a lesson in bureaucracy.  Thus, reinstalling
the software *again* is not a hassle that I wish to go through.

Insights anyone??

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Television/Electronic Engineering       the more you think you know...
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advmedia@iadfw.net (Terry Wester) writes:

>You have to use high quality5 mode when you digitize on the flyer and the
>only way to get it is to use the "Alt Alt `(the key above the tab key)" key
>stroke.
>I think this only works on certain hard drives, I am using quantum atlis 2
>gigs and it works real well.  I can digitize about 18 min. on 4 gig ands it
>is Betacam quality, great for TV comercials.  Also Newtek dosen't support
>his mode yet! they say its too bugy, but I haven't had that much trouble at
>all.

A friend is using the Hi Quality mode on his 2x Seagate Elite 9GB. No problems.

D.

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Here's something that's been boggling me ever since I started working 
with my client's Flyer system....how do I access the Setup screen?  Does 
a Setup even exist anymore in Toaster 4.0?

With regards to the previous problem we've been having ("Audio drive not 
available") I convinced my client to try buying a larger Audio drive 
based upon the numerous responses I received suggesting this...hopefully 
it will solve the problem, otherwise I just convinced this guy drop 
another grand into his Flyer for nothing!

Thanks!

                                      -David Warner
                                       Event Horizon Graphics


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TOASTER/FLYER FOR SALE
VIDEO FLYER
FLYER SOFTWARE 4.04B
(2) 2- GIG IBM NEW TEK APPROVED DRIVES
VIDEO TOASTER
AMIGA 2000
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On Sat, 22 Jul 1995 JKrause357@aol.com wrote:

> TOASTER/FLYER FOR SALE
> VIDEO FLYER
> FLYER SOFTWARE 4.04B
> (2) 2- GIG IBM NEW TEK APPROVED DRIVES
> VIDEO TOASTER


Well, it looks as if the revolt has begun.  This is one of a few Flyer 
Systems for sale I've seen to date, but exepect more to come.

I have a Flyer System, and am almost ready to give up.  I've read 
countless messages regarding Flyer's not performing, stuttering video, 
backups not responding, etc. and have experienced many of these myself.

Last I talked to Newtek Tech Support, there is only ONE drive that 
currently does not stutter (at least occasionally) - the Quantum 2 GIG - 
which based on the Flyers need for 6 megs per minute is practically useless.

They say that the Seagates which I bought (AND HAVE THE DAMN NEWTEK 
APPROVED STICKERS ON) have a thermal recalibration problem.  And that 
they are 'negotiating' to instate a no cost firmware upgrade policy.

They also told me that Segate didn't believe them, saying that there was 
no thermal recal problem.  What this hints to me is that Newtek has found 
a major requirement of thier VTASC coding (burst data speed) and that
when data drops to an acceptable level, the HD's recalibrate only to be 
caught with it's drawers down cause the Flyer says I need 6 megs per 
minute ( a nanosecond ago!)


Meanwhile, I paid $2800 for drives that are now $1400!!! AND they don't 
work - not now not then!!!  I lost $2800 for their special pre-order $500 
discount.  Add to that revenue lost from the past six months. (I'm only 
counting from the day I got it, not the 13 months since I ordered it.)

Bottom line is this...  Newtek should change codecs and go with JPeg or 
some other compression scheme until harddrive technology reaches an 
acceptable level for VTASC.  We've all been put on hold while they 
"hoped" the drives would be there when they shipped the Flyer.

They are not.  I'm not talking about buggy software... I'm talking about 
incompatible hardware, and technology that isn't available.  That's why 
Seagate is having their doubts... (Look our drives work great with 
Perception boards, AVID systems and various other high resolution 
digitizing systems... and you want us to specially develope a product for 
YOUR board AND give it away free to existing customers?)


I'm really hot right now If you can tell!  It comes after calling Newtek 
Tech Support asking why my Python 4 gig umcompressed drive is seen by the 
card, but just keeps telling me to put in a new tape.  "Gee, I dunno, I 
suppose your drive isn't compatible with the Flyer"  Then when asked 
about audio drive being accessed when no audio is being played resulting 
in a stutter.  "Gee, maybe you need a bigger audio drive or maybe it's 
not compatible with the Flyer (after being told that any SCSI or SCSI2 
drive would be fine and that a half-gig would be more than sufficient.)

I'm gonna hang on a little longer in hopes they can pull it off soon.  
But I'll tell you, a good corporate lawyer would have no trouble in a 
group consumer lawsuit against Newtek.  I've seen plenty of people here 
and on the Newtek board as well as other I personally know with the Flyer 
that would be interested in joining such a suit.


I don't want to see Newtek sued or go under at all, on the contrary I 
believe that the Flyer's INTENDED operation is revolutionary and someday 
will be a sight indeed.  And sore eyes will surely be watching

But Newtek has $3500 of my money.  And has caused me to pay out at least 
another $5,800 in harddrives that don't work.  And most importantly has 
put my business on hold.  Before anyone flames me, let me point out that 
some people have linear based systems that they can fall back on till 
technology allows the Flyer to "get off the ground".

I do not have this luxury.  13 noths ago I read an advertisement that 
said -

      "Introducing D2-quality, Non-linear editing for under $4,000.
          What will we think of next?"

   Other excerpts:  "Now the world's first all-in-one, broadcast quality, 
desktop-video production studio can be turned into a sophisticated 
editing suite.  Fact is, Video Toaster 4000 combined with Video Toaster 
Flyer delivers the same high-end editing capability you'd expect from a 
$50,000 digital deck."


Upon reading this I opted to buy the Flyer instead of an S-VHS or Hi-8 A/B 
roll editing system. I wish now I had bought the linear system, I could 
have made enough money to pay for the linear decks AND buy a Flyer system 
next year when it works.


Oh, I just saw Newtek's buffer:  "Features, specifications, and prices 
subject to change without notice."


Yeah, like it won't work at all, compatible drives do not exist, and 
delivery dates may need a year or two added to them.


Like I said, I'm waiting a while, but I just sent for a free demo tape of 
the Perception's video editing capabilities with Razor or Adobe Premier.

I will not be caught without an option...


J. David - Video GT (someday to actually begin business)

(Oh, I did manage to get a 6 minute marketing tape done, fortunately it 
was a 5 mini segment tape that faded to black between segments.  Thank 
god for my state of the art Sony Control-L editor that allowed me to go 
down a Hi-8 generation with my camera and cuts edit the mini-segments 
together! - Then down another generation to customer copy VHS.

And now I can't back it up on my SCSI2 compliant 4 gig backup I paid $800 
for cause they said any SCSI2 compliant tape backup should work.

Gee, I wonder if my next client will like all those fade to blacks in 
their marketing tape?

Fade - to - Bllllll-aaaa- Bllllll (stutter - stutter) ack.
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I was wondering will the A4000 (030 chip inside with AGA) with the
cyberstorm upgrade to the 68060 chip will it work with teh video
toaster?  How much of a improvement is it?  Is there also a difference
if I get the A4000 with the 040 and get the cyberstorm 060 will it
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I just finished working 39 hours straight thru.....had to finish a 30 minute
TV show.  Flyer had been working pretty good with the segments we had laid on
it....Then it decided not to work....Had to rebuild segments on tape....We
got it done.  Gee, The Flyer looked pretty good.           when it worked
 !!!!!!
Like I told my client, "who was cursing me and telling me they would never
allow me to put any of their work on the Flyer again." just be patient.
 These things take time.

Trouble is I'm over 50 years old and I'm beginning to wonder if I'll live
long enough to see the Flyer work properly....Many more 39 hour straight gigs
and the old heart attack will put me away.

Love That Flyer.
Love That Flyer
Love That Flyer

Repeat it long enough and you'll believe it.

See you in toaster heaven.
Ed
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Well, to break up the Flyer complaints a bit (GLAD I DIDN'T BUY ONE!!) I 
was hoping I could find an answer to a weird problem I've run into just 
recently.

I've owned T-Rexx for a lonnnng time, since it was made by KludgeCode 
software in fact, and it's always worked like a charm...I now have the 
Professional version 1.1.1 by ASDG and that to has worked beautifully 
until just this last week when I needed to call upon it's abilities for 
one of my LightSpeed tutorials.

It's been quite a while since I've used T-Rexx, so it's possible that 
these bugs have been there for quite a while, but there seems to be a 
serious compatibility problem with Toaster System 3.1 (with LW 3.5 
upgrade) in that all of my Toaster Croutons look like they've been 
soaking in salad dressing all day...in other words, they're a soggy mess 
and a LOT of them just can't even be loaded by T-Rexx.

If I try to use the ProjectEditor, I get the same thing...messed up 
croutons and if I try loading enough of them, the whole system just crashes.

No, I thought maybe some of my Toaster data had gone corrupt, so I 
re-installed everything from Toaster System 3.0 on up, and now ALL of my 
Toaster croutons are messed up!  I also tried re-installing T-Rexx, but 
that didn't solve the problem.

So, is there an update to T-Rexx Pro that I never heard about for 
compatibility with Toaster 3.1 or has something SERIOUSLY wrong happened 
to my system??  =(

I wonder if ASDG (Elastic Reality) is even speaking to us lowly Amiga 
users these days....it's been quite a while since I've called them.

                                      -David Warner
                                       Event Horizon Graphics




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> 
> Here's something that's been boggling me ever since I started working 
> with my client's Flyer system....how do I access the Setup screen?  Does 
> a Setup even exist anymore in Toaster 4.0?

Dave,

I think it's F10 key.  Hit the help key to verify.

Mario Cascio
ProMotion
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You wrote: 

>Meanwhile, I paid $2800 for drives that are now $1400!!! AND they don't 
>work - not now not then!!!  I lost $2800 for their special pre-order $500 
>discount.  Add to that revenue lost from the past six months. (I'm only 
>counting from the day I got it, not the 13 months since I ordered it.)
>
>Bottom line is this...  Newtek should change codecs and go with JPeg or 
>some other compression scheme until harddrive technology reaches an 
>acceptable level for VTASC.  We've all been put on hold while they 
>"hoped" the drives would be there when they shipped the Flyer.
>
>They are not.  I'm not talking about buggy software... I'm talking about 
>incompatible hardware, and technology that isn't available.  That's why 
>Seagate is having their doubts... (Look our drives work great with 
>Perception boards, AVID systems and various other high resolution 
>digitizing systems... and you want us to specially develope a product for 
>YOUR board AND give it away free to existing customers?)
>

The other popular non-linear editing systems found a good way around data throutput 
problems called DISK ARRAYS. I am using a Media 100 system at its highest resolution 
settings (e.i. 150kb per frame) which pushes the data rate over the 4MB/sec. 
limitation of any 9Gig drives available on the market.  FWB, a machintosh developper 
had come up with an extremly cost effective and efficient solution which allows you 
to connect 2 hard drives on two separate SCSI buses and spread the recording data 
equally onto the two drives thus doubling the theorical data rate of the used 
drives. The system sees the two drives as one single drive. It cost around $300 with 
software and necessary cables for installation in a Power Mac 8100 (which is built 
with two SCSI buses). I am really amazed to now watch my 9Gig Seagate Elite drives 
working quietly at around 2.5MB/sec. and still outputing the best component 
broadcast quality video images I ever seen on any other system....

>
>I do not have this luxury.  13 noths ago I read an advertisement that 
>said -
>
>      "Introducing D2-quality, Non-linear editing for under $4,000.
>          What will we think of next?"
>
>   Other excerpts:  "Now the world's first all-in-one, broadcast quality, 
>desktop-video production studio can be turned into a sophisticated 
>editing suite.  Fact is, Video Toaster 4000 combined with Video Toaster 
>Flyer delivers the same high-end editing capability you'd expect from a 
>$50,000 digital deck."

This is one major problem with Newtek is that they tend to overhype everyting...

Thierry.
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We seem to be having better luck with our flyer than most. However
when we got 4.04B upgrade, we had trouble. every operation got slow.
very slow. finally I noticed that every time I hit a button the
CD-rom would run for a while before it would do any operation. I was
unable to correct the problem until I disconnected the scsi connector
to the cdrom. I t works fine now but I have no cd rom. I tried to
reinstall 4.03. that would not work, I presume because 4.04B wiped
out some file. 

Any way we have a working system sans cdrom. we are using five 9 gig
micropolis drives for video and one 4 gig seagate for audio.
occasionally we get stutter just before a digital transition. We then
move the next clip to another bus. This always seems to do the trick. 

I agree with most that this is a terribly buggy system that needs a
major overhaul in its operating system.  I suspect from my experience
that if you do enough clip deletions on a drive, eventually it will
cause a serious problem with the drive. We avoid clip deletions like
the plague. We do a project. back it up on our exabytel, and then
format all drives that we have used.

BTW we have been wanting to do multiple graphics layering, and had to
use another toaster as an input to do it. But we tried 4.04b and 
found that now we can digitize a clip with any graphic used as a
linear key. This then allows infinite layering and allows us to keep
the same key over multiple clip dissolves.

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Hi There,

At the risk of exposing how little I actually know about our A4000,
I would like to know if the Cybervision64 can be employed in a 
Toaster/Flyer system. Or is the Picasso II the only card that LW has a 
driver for? 
I  had heard that there might soon be a Picasso III. A Z3 Picasso would 
be great!
Any thoughts, opinions, observations?

J. Gilmore
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On Sat, 22 Jul 1995, J. David Johnson wrote:
> currently does not stutter (at least occasionally) - the Quantum 2 GIG - 
> which based on the Flyers need for 6 megs per minute is practically useless.
> 
> They say that the Seagates which I bought (AND HAVE THE DAMN NEWTEK 
> APPROVED STICKERS ON) have a thermal recalibration problem.  And that 
> they are 'negotiating' to instate a no cost firmware upgrade policy.
> 
> They also told me that Segate didn't believe them, saying that there was 
> no thermal recal problem.  What this hints to me is that Newtek has found 

Just a simple question to a complex problem - does the actual 
temperatures of the operating enviroment have any effect on thermal 
recalibration problems? Can these problems be reduced by maintaining 
drive in a cold enviroment?

Just wondering!

Ian
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You wrote: 


>> 
>> The other popular non-linear editing systems found a good way around data throutput 
>> problems called DISK ARRAYS. I am using a Media 100 system at its highest resolution 
>> settings (e.i. 150kb per frame) which pushes the data rate over the 4MB/sec. 
>> limitation of any 9Gig drives available on the market.  FWB, a machintosh developper 
>> had come up with an extremly cost effective and efficient solution which allows you 
>> to connect 2 hard drives on two separate SCSI buses and spread the recording data 
>> equally onto the two drives thus doubling the theorical data rate of the used 
>> drives. The system sees the two drives as one single drive. It cost around $300 with 
>
>Hard to stay away from the list, eh Thierry! Nice to have you responding 
>to the problems of us Flyer types. We can only hope that someone produces 
>something like the device you outlined for use in the Flyer camp. Sounds 
>like an ideal solution.
>
>What is the name of this device Thierry?

It is called the "Raid Toolkit" and is made by FWB. They can be reached at 
415-474-0956


Later,

Thierry.
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	I to have had to re-edit my Flyer work on tape.  In everyone of the
videos I have done since January I have had one client noticable problem.  I
use the best drives I can get, constantly upgrading to the better drives of
the week.  I am now buying drives that I can use with The Perception and AVID
systems.

Marc Dole (603) 659-7778 * Alpha Animator * Amiga Re-Animator * Flyer Pilot *
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From: Joe Angell <jangell@risd.edu>
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Hi, all.  This ones a BIT off topic.  I just got may Picasso II, and I
can't get the danm thing to wokr.  I have an old A2000 and 1084S monitor,
thecable to convert the Amiga RGB into VGA(into the Picasso) and the cable
from the Picasso VGA out to the 1084S RGB in.  In Amiga mode, I get red
bars rolling down the screen, and green bars going up in Picasso mode. 
Any ideas?  The monitor driver's set to a max. of 15KHz for the 1084 (I
can't afford a multiscan for a bit yet...)  Even the Amiga res. stuff is
meessed up.  I REALLY want LightWave running on the Picasso (see, this
really IS a LW post!)  Any ideas anyone?

Thanks all for your help...

-- Joe

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Amiga 2000
1MB Chip Ram
2091 Hard Drive Controller
52MB Quantum HD
OS 2.1
1080 Color Monitor
New Mouse & Keyboard
External Floppy Drive . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$475.00


Amiga 1200
2MB chip Ram
80MB Hard Drive . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$475.00


Amiga 4000
25mhz 68040
18MB Ram
2-540MB Hard Drives
OS 3.1 + All the software you ever wanted!
1084 Color Monitor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2900.00


Toaster 4000 Card
3.1 Software . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $1400.00


SunRise AD1012
4 Channel Mono Audio Card . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$175.00


Citzen 24 Dot Matrix Printer . . . . . . . . . . . . $50.00


2 - Seagate 120MB Hard Drives
Model ST3144A . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$50.00ea.


DBX 1Bx
Audio Expander . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $125.00



If you need more info or would like to buy, Call Tim Langston
                                                 TC Video Productions
                                                 219-486-3390
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Has anybody noticed any problems after executing FLYER calibrate?  Such 
as missing icons, or deleting them for that matter.  When do I know when 
to use FLYER calibrate?  It doesn't erase any of the hard drives, does it?

I thought you used it when the colors aren't looking right when grabbing 
clips and such.  I've noticed when I grab a frame and bring it into 
Toaster paint, the image is very grainy, unlike the actual video clip.  
Will Flyer calibrate solve this problem?

Any replies are appreciated and as always, thanks in advance.

Mario Cascio
ProMotion
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On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Joe Angell wrote:

> 
> Hi, all.  This ones a BIT off topic.  I just got may Picasso II, and I
> can't get the danm thing to wokr.  I have an old A2000 and 1084S monitor,
> thecable to convert the Amiga RGB into VGA(into the Picasso) and the cable
> from the Picasso VGA out to the 1084S RGB in.  In Amiga mode, I get red
> bars rolling down the screen, and green bars going up in Picasso mode. 
> Any ideas?  The monitor driver's set to a max. of 15KHz for the 1084 (I
> can't afford a multiscan for a bit yet...)  Even the Amiga res. stuff is
> meessed up.  I REALLY want LightWave running on the Picasso (see, this
> really IS a LW post!)  Any ideas anyone?
> 
Joe, this is the address for the picasso newsletter Majordomo@uga.umd.edu. 

There is also some monitor drivers and the last official village software 
there. I'm using a 1950 monitor so I don't have an answer. If I can find 
the time I'll try to configure for the 1080. There is also software 
written by some third party software called  Cybergraphics that is newer 
and in most cases improved over the origional software. There is a demo 
version on aminet, it's shareware and worth the price, which is $40 I think.
the FTP site is terrapin-station.umd.edu

Steve Nevins

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On Sun, 23 Jul 1995, Ian Lancaster wrote:

> 
> Just a simple question to a complex problem - does the actual 
> temperatures of the operating enviroment have any effect on thermal 
> recalibration problems? Can these problems be reduced by maintaining 
> drive in a cold enviroment?
> 
> Just wondering!
> 
> Ian

I do not think so.  All drives (at present technology) need to 
occasionally recalibrate due to fluctuating data transmission.

The variance of data flow causes a variance of heat generated this must 
be accounted for or the drive will soon not be able to send data 
reliably.  The A/V drives have been optimized to 1. take a punishment and 
2. react "smart" by sensing when the thruput is below a certain level. 
A level where data can be sent AND recal take place.  Your audio drives 
are capable of recal and data transmission because of the lower data 
transmission requirement of audio. (Altho I suppose a slower drive might 
give you problems if you were running several tracks AND the drive tried 
to recal.  The Pproblem with the stuttering is due to the drives sensing 
a data flow dropping below the acceptable level, trying to recal and the 
Flyer coming back a nanosecond later and saying 6 megs per sec please!!!

(This happen just as the drives gets the pants to it's ankles and reaches 
for a magazine to read.)  RESULT: Stutt..tttue...Stutter...ttt.Stutter

The real problem is in VTASC compression.  That is why even at the lower 
quality mode, (Extended) you need the fastest drives available.  Yes, 
even lower quality modes needs the occasional 5 to 6 megs per second 
transfer rate.

So Newtek goes to Seagate and says, "Gee, your drives have a recal fault."

Seagate says, "Hmmm, you're right, our drives do recal... In fact, we 
intended them to do so, you know data integrity & such..."

"Well, gee Seagate", Newtek proceeds, "can you make 'em special for the 
Flyer, (and offer FREE upgrades to our existing customers?)"


Well, I'm just enough technical to make me dangerous, but RAID does seem 
like a way to go, or else have the Flyer copy the entire clip from A/B 
(as many of us manually do - can you say LINEAR) and then have the drive 
wait for a SCSI2 acknowledgement before recal.  The Flyer could then send 
a "Your done for the next 2.5 seconds, recal if you can... MESSAGE)


Another concern for all you other manufacturer drives out there...

A Newtek tech support person told me that the only known drive not to 
stutter is the 2 gig Quantum Atlas.  I haven't heard of dealings going on 
with Micropolis, Quantum, Fujitsu, IBM, etc. about THEM fixing a recal 
problem.

You don't suppose Newtek will say to Seagate - "If you will make this 
revision for us, we;ll announce you as the ONLY Newtek supported drive!"


Ah, but I digress...


But you do make a good point...  After A toaster, toaster oven, kitchen 
sync etc., certainly I can foresee a Toaster Refrigerator! ;)

J. David - Video GT


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On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Mario Cascio wrote:

> Has anybody noticed any problems after executing FLYER calibrate?  Such 
> as missing icons, or deleting them for that matter.  When do I know when 
> to use FLYER calibrate?  It doesn't erase any of the hard drives, does it?
> 
> I thought you used it when the colors aren't looking right when grabbing 
> clips and such.  I've noticed when I grab a frame and bring it into 
> Toaster paint, the image is very grainy, unlike the actual video clip.  
> Will Flyer calibrate solve this problem?
> 
> Any replies are appreciated and as always, thanks in advance.
> 
> Mario Cascio
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No, you use F.C. whenever you have a color shift between A and B 
playback, or get odd color from recording a clip in.  Unfotunately the 
grain you are getting is from VTASC compression.  Try recording the clips 
in Hi-Quality 5 Mode, it uses much less compression. (Altho not all 
drives are capable of Hi-5 quality.)

J. David - Video GT

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On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Mario Cascio wrote:

> 
> I thought you used it when the colors aren't looking right when grabbing 
> clips and such.  I've noticed when I grab a frame and bring it into 
> Toaster paint, the image is very grainy, unlike the actual video clip.  
> Will Flyer calibrate solve this problem?
> 

Something someone told me on this list is to take the clip you want to 
grab a still from and take it into cuttingroom, move the sliders togeather
so that the still you want is the clip and hit continue and boom you've
got a nice clean still. It works well.

Jim
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On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, J. David Johnson wrote:
> But you do make a good point...  After A toaster, toaster oven, kitchen 
> sync etc., certainly I can foresee a Toaster Refrigerator! ;)
> 
> J. David - Video GT
> 
They could call it the `NewTek Fridge'

BTW. Has anyone got any comments on the info from Thierry?

>>Thierry wrote:
>> 
>> FWB, a machintosh developper had come up with an extremly cost effective
>> and efficient solution which allows you to connect 2 hard drives on two
>> separate SCSI buses and spread the recording data equally onto the two
>> drives thus doubling the theorical data rate of the used drives. The system
>> sees the two drives as one single drive. It cost around $300 with 
>
>What is the name of this device Thierry?

It is called the "Raid Toolkit" and is made by FWB. They can be reached at 
415-474-0956

Sounds like an interesting idea - no?

Cheers - Ian
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	OKay I guess I missed the boat on HQ-5 (not that I could use it), but
how do you digitize HQ-5?

Marc Dole (603) 659-7778 * Alpha Animator * Amiga Re-Animator * Flyer Pilot *
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|> I've owned T-Rexx for a lonnnng time, since it was made by KludgeCode
|> software in fact, and it's always worked like a charm...I now have the
|> Professional version 1.1.1 by ASDG and that to has worked beautifully
|> until just this last week when I needed to call upon it's abilities for
|> one of my LightSpeed tutorials.

To quote Bartles and James:  "Thank you for your support."  ;^)

I'm not exactly sure about the version numbers (it has been a while), but I'm
fairly certain that the most recent version should be closer to 2.1.2.  I know
I made a special update just for Toaster 3.1 (since NewTek changed the format
of the croutons...*AGAIN*).

|> I wonder if ASDG (Elastic Reality) is even speaking to us lowly Amiga
|> users these days....it's been quite a while since I've called them.

I a word:  No.  It is my understanding that they are no longer selling or
supporting any of their Amiga products.  Not even AdPro (which, I think, is
being distributed by a German company now).  So, you're probably SOL.

Sorry.

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The latest issue of VTU talks about a RAID solution for Flyer drive problems.  I
 can't remember the name of the company, but I sent for more info.  More
 important than spending a lot of money on a new RAID, they even let you install
 matched drives that you already own into their RAID system so you don't lose
 any of your investment.  They definately support Barracuda 4G drives, this has
 to be specific firmware codes, of course.  I don't know yet which other drives,
 but the RAID systems themselves are supposedly FLYER compatible.  This type of
 solution would theoretically let a FLYER user put their matched video drives in
 the RAID and get one of those 2GB HQ approved drives for the swapping video
 drive and be able to use HQ for everything.  At least this sounds feasible.

Eugene

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On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, J. David Johnson wrote:
> But you do make a good point...  After A toaster, toaster oven, kitchen 
> sync etc., certainly I can foresee a Toaster Refrigerator! ;)
> 
> J. David - Video GT
> 
They could call it the `NewTek Fridge'

BTW. Has anyone got any comments on the info from Thierry?

>>Thierry wrote:
>> 
>> FWB, a machintosh developper had come up with an extremly cost effective
>> and efficient solution which allows you to connect 2 hard drives on two
>> separate SCSI buses and spread the recording data equally onto the two
>> drives thus doubling the theorical data rate of the used drives. The system
>> sees the two drives as one single drive. It cost around $300 with 
>
>What is the name of this device Thierry?

It is called the "Raid Toolkit" and is made by FWB. They can be reached at 
415-474-0956

Sounds like an interesting idea - no?

Cheers - Ian
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	OKay I guess I missed the boat on HQ-5 (not that I could use it), but
how do you digitize HQ-5?

Marc Dole (603) 659-7778 * Alpha Animator * Amiga Re-Animator * Flyer Pilot *
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On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, J. David Johnson wrote:
> But you do make a good point...  After A toaster, toaster oven, kitchen 
> sync etc., certainly I can foresee a Toaster Refrigerator! ;)
> 
> J. David - Video GT
> 
They could call it the `NewTek Fridge'

BTW. Has anyone got any comments on the info from Thierry?

>>Thierry wrote:
>> 
>> FWB, a machintosh developper had come up with an extremly cost effective
>> and efficient solution which allows you to connect 2 hard drives on two
>> separate SCSI buses and spread the recording data equally onto the two
>> drives thus doubling the theorical data rate of the used drives. The system
>> sees the two drives as one single drive. It cost around $300 with 
>
>What is the name of this device Thierry?

It is called the "Raid Toolkit" and is made by FWB. They can be reached at 
415-474-0956

Sounds like an interesting idea - no?

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	OKay I guess I missed the boat on HQ-5 (not that I could use it), but
how do you digitize HQ-5?

Marc Dole (603) 659-7778 * Alpha Animator * Amiga Re-Animator * Flyer Pilot *
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The latest issue of VTU talks about a RAID solution for Flyer drive problems.  I
 can't remember the name of the company, but I sent for more info.  More
 important than spending a lot of money on a new RAID, they even let you install
 matched drives that you already own into their RAID system so you don't lose
 any of your investment.  They definately support Barracuda 4G drives, this has
 to be specific firmware codes, of course.  I don't know yet which other drives,
 but the RAID systems themselves are supposedly FLYER compatible.  This type of
 solution would theoretically let a FLYER user put their matched video drives in
 the RAID and get one of those 2GB HQ approved drives for the swapping video
 drive and be able to use HQ for everything.  At least this sounds feasible.

Eugene

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On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Keith A. Williams wrote:

> To quote Bartles and James:  "Thank you for your support."  ;^)

Hey, thank you for making an excellent program!

 
> I'm not exactly sure about the version numbers (it has been a while), but I'm
> fairly certain that the most recent version should be closer to 2.1.2.  I know
> I made a special update just for Toaster 3.1 (since NewTek changed the format
> of the croutons...*AGAIN*).

Actually the version I currently have is 2.1.1


> I a word:  No.  It is my understanding that they are no longer selling or
> supporting any of their Amiga products.  Not even AdPro (which, I think, is
> being distributed by a German company now).  So, you're probably SOL.

Argh!!  I ended up installing Toaster 3.0 on another hard drive, just so 
I could use T-Rexx.  I will call Elastic Reality today and throw a 
tantrum if I can't get T-Rexx 2.1.2.  =) 

Thanks for the info!

                                      -David Warner
                                       Event Horizon Graphics


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|> I've owned T-Rexx for a lonnnng time, since it was made by KludgeCode
|> software in fact, and it's always worked like a charm...I now have the
|> Professional version 1.1.1 by ASDG and that to has worked beautifully
|> until just this last week when I needed to call upon it's abilities for
|> one of my LightSpeed tutorials.

To quote Bartles and James:  "Thank you for your support."  ;^)

I'm not exactly sure about the version numbers (it has been a while), but I'm
fairly certain that the most recent version should be closer to 2.1.2.  I know
I made a special update just for Toaster 3.1 (since NewTek changed the format
of the croutons...*AGAIN*).

|> I wonder if ASDG (Elastic Reality) is even speaking to us lowly Amiga
|> users these days....it's been quite a while since I've called them.

I a word:  No.  It is my understanding that they are no longer selling or
supporting any of their Amiga products.  Not even AdPro (which, I think, is
being distributed by a German company now).  So, you're probably SOL.

Sorry.

-Keith Williams (author of all version of T-Rexx [even the KludgeCode days]).
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On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, J. David Johnson wrote:
> But you do make a good point...  After A toaster, toaster oven, kitchen 
> sync etc., certainly I can foresee a Toaster Refrigerator! ;)
> 
> J. David - Video GT
> 
They could call it the `NewTek Fridge'

BTW. Has anyone got any comments on the info from Thierry?

>>Thierry wrote:
>> 
>> FWB, a machintosh developper had come up with an extremly cost effective
>> and efficient solution which allows you to connect 2 hard drives on two
>> separate SCSI buses and spread the recording data equally onto the two
>> drives thus doubling the theorical data rate of the used drives. The system
>> sees the two drives as one single drive. It cost around $300 with 
>
>What is the name of this device Thierry?

It is called the "Raid Toolkit" and is made by FWB. They can be reached at 
415-474-0956

Sounds like an interesting idea - no?

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|> I've owned T-Rexx for a lonnnng time, since it was made by KludgeCode
|> software in fact, and it's always worked like a charm...I now have the
|> Professional version 1.1.1 by ASDG and that to has worked beautifully
|> until just this last week when I needed to call upon it's abilities for
|> one of my LightSpeed tutorials.

To quote Bartles and James:  "Thank you for your support."  ;^)

I'm not exactly sure about the version numbers (it has been a while), but I'm
fairly certain that the most recent version should be closer to 2.1.2.  I know
I made a special update just for Toaster 3.1 (since NewTek changed the format
of the croutons...*AGAIN*).

|> I wonder if ASDG (Elastic Reality) is even speaking to us lowly Amiga
|> users these days....it's been quite a while since I've called them.

I a word:  No.  It is my understanding that they are no longer selling or
supporting any of their Amiga products.  Not even AdPro (which, I think, is
being distributed by a German company now).  So, you're probably SOL.

Sorry.

-Keith Williams (author of all version of T-Rexx [even the KludgeCode days]).
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The latest issue of VTU talks about a RAID solution for Flyer drive problems.  I
 can't remember the name of the company, but I sent for more info.  More
 important than spending a lot of money on a new RAID, they even let you install
 matched drives that you already own into their RAID system so you don't lose
 any of your investment.  They definately support Barracuda 4G drives, this has
 to be specific firmware codes, of course.  I don't know yet which other drives,
 but the RAID systems themselves are supposedly FLYER compatible.  This type of
 solution would theoretically let a FLYER user put their matched video drives in
 the RAID and get one of those 2GB HQ approved drives for the swapping video
 drive and be able to use HQ for everything.  At least this sounds feasible.

Eugene

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On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Eugene Kosarovich wrote:

> The latest issue of VTU talks about a RAID solution for Flyer drive
> problems.  I can't remember the name of the company, but I sent for 
> more info.

Read the same thing, and given the problem with the Flyer accessing the 
higher recording modes (HQ-5 etc..), I am suprised we have not heard more 
about these other option.

Applied Magic was one company mentioned. Their device is reported (by a 
Beta tester) to work with the Flyer, and that it eliminates stuttering 
and other problems with drives that are used in pairs. It spreads the 
data-stream between two drives. They don't expect to have `product' until 
October.

Ian
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On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, J. David Johnson wrote:
> But you do make a good point...  After A toaster, toaster oven, kitchen 
> sync etc., certainly I can foresee a Toaster Refrigerator! ;)
> 
> J. David - Video GT
> 
They could call it the `NewTek Fridge'

BTW. Has anyone got any comments on the info from Thierry?

>>Thierry wrote:
>> 
>> FWB, a machintosh developper had come up with an extremly cost effective
>> and efficient solution which allows you to connect 2 hard drives on two
>> separate SCSI buses and spread the recording data equally onto the two
>> drives thus doubling the theorical data rate of the used drives. The system
>> sees the two drives as one single drive. It cost around $300 with 
>
>What is the name of this device Thierry?

It is called the "Raid Toolkit" and is made by FWB. They can be reached at 
415-474-0956

Sounds like an interesting idea - no?

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The latest issue of VTU talks about a RAID solution for Flyer drive problems.  I
 can't remember the name of the company, but I sent for more info.  More
 important than spending a lot of money on a new RAID, they even let you install
 matched drives that you already own into their RAID system so you don't lose
 any of your investment.  They definately support Barracuda 4G drives, this has
 to be specific firmware codes, of course.  I don't know yet which other drives,
 but the RAID systems themselves are supposedly FLYER compatible.  This type of
 solution would theoretically let a FLYER user put their matched video drives in
 the RAID and get one of those 2GB HQ approved drives for the swapping video
 drive and be able to use HQ for everything.  At least this sounds feasible.

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I've got a bit of problem, I have two 4 gig hard drives for my FLYER that 
only have a few minutes of available space.  My reorganize drive command 
doesn't work so I can't utilize my drive space even though it says over 
10 minutes are available on both drives.  I have a animation I need to 
render soon that is over 10 seconds long.  I have to render a quickshade 
first and then a realistic version after adjustments are made.  I am 
worried that I may run out of hard drive space.  The project is due in a 
couple weeks so I need to find a way to backup or make more room on my 
hard drives.  

I thought someone mentioned that FliteGear could aid in making room on 
hard drives, any body know the details?

Otherwise, what other specific backup systems would any of you 
recommend?  I am also on a budget, but I do want speed as well.  So if 
you could list some specs and prices it would be very ecstatic.

As always, Thanks in advance.

Mario Cascio
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I need to transfer an animation from my FLYER to BetaCam SP, I will have 
to rent a BetaCam SP deck and want to make sure I have the right 
cabling.  I need to transfer the audio as well as the video.  Can someone 
tell me if BetaCam SP has BNC connectors or do I need special cable adaptors?

Thanks in advance,

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The latest issue of VTU talks about a RAID solution for Flyer drive problems.  I
 can't remember the name of the company, but I sent for more info.  More
 important than spending a lot of money on a new RAID, they even let you install
 matched drives that you already own into their RAID system so you don't lose
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 to be specific firmware codes, of course.  I don't know yet which other drives,
 but the RAID systems themselves are supposedly FLYER compatible.  This type of
 solution would theoretically let a FLYER user put their matched video drives in
 the RAID and get one of those 2GB HQ approved drives for the swapping video
 drive and be able to use HQ for everything.  At least this sounds feasible.

Eugene

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On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Mario Cascio wrote:

> I've got a bit of problem, I have two 4 gig hard drives for my FLYER that 
> only have a few minutes of available space.  My reorganize drive command 
> doesn't work so I can't utilize my drive space even though it says over 
> 10 minutes are available on both drives.  I have a animation I need to 

I bought a Sony SDT-5000 a 4gig uncompressed drive that works well for 
backing up Flyer clips... got it for $825 plus shipping.  Tapes are 
$22-$25 each and hold, yep, 4 gigs uncompressed (120m tapes).  Be aware 
tho that Newtek's code is still a little flaky and real slow... 2.7 gig 
took almost 4 hours to backup.  (And the drive is normally capable of 
1.2 gig per hour (21 megs to 23 megs per minute which is one of the 
fastest data transfer rates around)

A quick fix is to one by one copy files from one drive to another.  
Starting with the longer clips (if they'll fit) for instance if you have 
some five minute clips and the other drive show more than that available 
(BEFORE reorganizing) then copy the clip to the other drive and delete it 
off the first  doing this till you can't anymore should allow you to 
reorganize the first drive, then reverse the flow of copied clips till 
you can reorganize the second one.  The important thing to remember is to 
copy the biggest files you can over, cause the reoganize uses only 
contiguous space. (It won't split a 6 minute clip and place into 4 
minute and 2 minute available slots.

Hope this helps

J. David - Video GT

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The latest issue of VTU talks about a RAID solution for Flyer drive problems.  I
 can't remember the name of the company, but I sent for more info.  More
 important than spending a lot of money on a new RAID, they even let you install
 matched drives that you already own into their RAID system so you don't lose
 any of your investment.  They definately support Barracuda 4G drives, this has
 to be specific firmware codes, of course.  I don't know yet which other drives,
 but the RAID systems themselves are supposedly FLYER compatible.  This type of
 solution would theoretically let a FLYER user put their matched video drives in
 the RAID and get one of those 2GB HQ approved drives for the swapping video
 drive and be able to use HQ for everything.  At least this sounds feasible.

Eugene

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Mario,
I tried to eliminate sound in the cutting room by clicking off sound and 
you're right it didn't work. Hm, I don't know what to say. Of course 
there are all sorts of other ways to eliminate it. BTW I'm running 4.04b.

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#1 - Webcom has acknowledged the problems they had.  It started with their
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#2 - Have the repeats stopped?  

#3 - My quest to find a volunteer to take over the mailing lists still
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#1 - Webcom has acknowledged the problems they had.  It started with their
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#2 - Have the repeats stopped?  

#3 - My quest to find a volunteer to take over the mailing lists still
stands.  Due to new obligations at work (did I get myself over my head?!),
spare time is at a premium.  If you've run mailing lists before and can
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dan@acti.com.

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On Fri, 28 Jul 1995 owner-lightwave@webcom.com wrote:

> #2 - Have the repeats stopped?  

Since I got this message twice, I guess not.

George Lane

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>To:Mario Cascio <cascio@it.uwp.edu>
>From:jazzer@aloha.net (Tony LeHoven)
>Subject:Re: Somewhat off topic:BetaCam SP
>
>>I need to transfer an animation from my FLYER to BetaCam SP, I will have
>>to rent a BetaCam SP deck and want to make sure I have the right
>>cabling.  I need to transfer the audio as well as the video.  Can someone
>>tell me if BetaCam SP has BNC connectors or do I need special cable adaptors?
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>
>Mario, this depends on the model.  All of them have BNC connectors . . .
>the UVW series also has an S-VHS input.  The audio is XLR.  -Tony
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On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Eugene Kosarovich wrote:

> The latest issue of VTU talks about a RAID solution for Flyer drive problems.  I
>  can't remember the name of the company, but I sent for more info.  More

Hmmmm! Considering that this was posted Monday, and popped-up today (Friday)?

The article in VTU did mention RAID, and also a cheaper alternative 
called Quik-Array from Applied Magic. The device was out for Beta testing 
(on Macs I believe) and was tried on a Flyer - and worked! The device ties 
two drives together on the same SCSI bus. They are then viewed as one 
storage device. It has been reported that stuttering in the HQ mode was 
eliminated. Applied Magic (619-599-2626) do not expect to have product for 
shipping until October.

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Sorry about this but I'm trying to see if it's the company's mail server or
Webcom that passed the duplicate messages out to the list that I posted this
morning.

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On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Joe Angell wrote:

> 
> Hi, all.  This ones a BIT off topic.  I just got may Picasso II, and I
> can't get the danm thing to wokr.  I have an old A2000 and 1084S monitor,
> thecable to convert the Amiga RGB into VGA(into the Picasso) and the cable
> from the Picasso VGA out to the 1084S RGB in.  In Amiga mode, I get red
> bars rolling down the screen, and green bars going up in Picasso mode. 
> Any ideas?  The monitor driver's set to a max. of 15KHz for the 1084 (I
> can't afford a multiscan for a bit yet...)  Even the Amiga res. stuff is
> meessed up.  I REALLY want LightWave running on the Picasso (see, this
> really IS a LW post!)  Any ideas anyone?
> 
> Thanks all for your help...
> 
> -- Joe
> 
Where did you get the cable for the 1084?  Can you also try using someones
multisync monitor to make sure the card is actually working.

                                                    Manuel desantos

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On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Stephen Nevins wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Joe Angell wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi, all.  This ones a BIT off topic.  I just got may Picasso II, and I
> > can't get the danm thing to wokr.  I have an old A2000 and 1084S monitor,
> > thecable to convert the Amiga RGB into VGA(into the Picasso) and the cable
> > from the Picasso VGA out to the 1084S RGB in.  In Amiga mode, I get red
> > bars rolling down the screen, and green bars going up in Picasso mode. 
> > Any ideas?  The monitor driver's set to a max. of 15KHz for the 1084 (I
> > can't afford a multiscan for a bit yet...)  Even the Amiga res. stuff is
> > meessed up.  I REALLY want LightWave running on the Picasso (see, this
> > really IS a LW post!)  Any ideas anyone?
> > 
> Joe, this is the address for the picasso newsletter Majordomo@uga.umd.edu. 
> 
> There is also some monitor drivers and the last official village software 
> there. I'm using a 1950 monitor so I don't have an answer. If I can find 
> the time I'll try to configure for the 1080. There is also software 
> written by some third party software called  Cybergraphics that is newer 
> and in most cases improved over the origional software. There is a demo 
> version on aminet, it's shareware and worth the price, which is $40 I think.
> the FTP site is terrapin-station.umd.edu
> 
> Steve Nevins
> 
By the way, the Cybergraphics driver software require that you have 
Workbench 3.0 or higher.  I was going to use it but I only have WB 2.1.

                                                     Manuel Desantos
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WELL!  Logging in today has revealed far fewer messages!  Could it be that
the darn duplicate message problem has been eliminated?!  FINALLY?!  EVERY
list on Webcom got zonked.  :(

I sincerely hope this never happens again!  

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	I got a Par board today and went I went to install it I saw the 
my toaster was takeing up 2slots!  Now I can't have my Par a AD516 in my 
Amiga 4000.  I have an old amiga 2000 box, but all it is good for is 
giveing power to the kitchen sync and Amilink.  It has no disk drives or 
RAM.  What do I do?  How do the toaster ovens work?  Is there a way to 
make my 2000 in to an oven for the Par? 

          ________________________________________________________
         I Pat A. Lawson                 I Amiga 4000 040 25MHz   I
         I lawson14@odi.cwc.whecn.edu    I Toster 4000 AmiLink CIPI 
         I plawson@wyoming.com           I AD516  3Panasonic 1970 I
         I_______________________________I________________________I



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On Sat, 29 Jul 1995, William Frawley wrote:

> First, good job on your first LW Tutorial for Lightspeed, definately the 
> best on the tape! Now, on to your query...

Thanks!  I wasn't very happy with the production values or my performance 
in front of the camera, but I made sure there was some good info 
contained within it.  Future tutorials will only get better!


 
> I have a A1942 monitor using the 31 khz, flicker-free port on my A3000. 
> At this scan rate, why wouldn't a S-VGA monitor work (if it did have a 
> 31khz scan frequency)? Dont' know if this helps....

I picked up a S-VGA monitor yesterday and it works quite nicely.


 
> Lastly, if I may ask, what does your system consist of? (especially, the 
> video output end). 

Whew, you're opening a large can of worms with that question...I have a 
Video Toaster 4000 inside of an 040 equipped Amiga 2000 with Kitchen Sync 
TBC...also have a PAR in that machine with a 1.2gig drive for recording.  
I have another 030 equipped A2000 with a DCTV/SuperGen setup that also 
contains a V-LAB Y/C for digitizing video and a TBC+ for converting the 
Toaster and SuperGen output to S-VHS.  I have an 040 equipped A3000 
that is essentially just for rendering LightWave animations.  Between 
these three machines I have more than 4 gigs of storage and the usual 
miscellaneous other pieces of hardware. (ethernet, Cd-Rom, Syquest, tape 
backup, PhonePak) For video, I'm using a Panasonic PVS-4990 consumer 
S-VHS deck as a source, a Panasonic AG-1960 to record, and a cheap VHS 
camera with it's output transcoded to S-VHS for decent live video source. 
(I will be picking up a Hi-8 camera soon to replace this.)


> Basically, I'm trying to figure out the best possible 
> equipment configuration regarding a high-quality animation studio with a 
> $15k-$20k budget. So, for inputting video, is S-VHS (ie, AG-455) adequate 
> into my current VLAB (or would PAR be better)? 

I almost bought a Vlab Motion system, but after speaking to MacroSystems 
tech for quite a while, I came to the conclusion that this system could 
only deliver VHS quality output...nowhere near adequate for a "high-quality
animation studio".  The PAR is very good, but it uses JPEG compression 
which can leave noticeable artifacts when an animation is paused, but it 
is definitely adequate for professional output...not broadcast quality 
but very good and VERY affordable right now.  I purchased a used PAR 2 
months ago for $800 and picked up a 1.2gig Conner drive to use with it 
for only $350.  Beats the pants off of my previous DCTV animation 
playback system!

I recommend using S-VHS in your studio...it does a good job if you keep 
your recording generations low (2 or 3 max) and it is very affordable.

 

> For output, does one go 
> with the Flyer (already have A2000/Toaster), BetaSP deck, or Exabyte deck 
> to export to service bureau? 

Don't waste your money on the Flyer...it can output some good quality 
video if everything is working correctly but very rarely does everything 
work correctly.  I work with a client who has one and "frustrating" is 
the best way I would describe the Flyer.  Very sad.

Higher end formats (M-II & BetaSP) can be expensive but the quality is 
worth it...you'll need a bigger budget to work with these formats... 
expect to pay at least $10,000 per deck.  

I'm not familiar with Exabyte drives, but I know that they can be a good 
solution...make sure you have a service bureau nearby to take the tapes 
to for actual output.  Sending them through the mail to a service bureau 
is risky and many questions like "who's getting their hands on my client's 
project?" become a possible issue.

I would recommend getting a used PAR for the Amiga, a good sized drive to 
go with it and use this for your animation output.  If you need to do 
non-linear editing, then you may be able to get away with the V-Lab Motion, 
but don't expect very good output.  A better non-linear editing solution 
is to get a Pentium equipped with a DPS Perception card (the new PAR) a 
good-sized SCSI-II hard drive (9gigs), the video capture daughter card 
and an audio card and you'll have a very high-quality non-linear editor 
as well as a LightWave render engine that is many times faster than your 
Amiga, all for less than $10,000.  Throw in a GOOD S-VHS 3-chip camera 
and a couple of S-VHS decks (source and record) and you should still be 
under your $20,000 budget.


 
> Sorry for the lengthy question and thanks....

Anytime, hope you don't mind me cross-posting this to the Toaster list so 
others can benefit from your questions and my lengthy reply.  =)

Anyone else have anything to add to my comments?


                                     -David Warner
                                      Event Horizon Graphics


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> 	I got a Par board today and went I went to install it I saw the 
> my toaster was takeing up 2slots!  Now I can't have my Par a AD516 in my 
> Amiga 4000.  I have an old amiga 2000 box, but all it is good for is 
> giveing power to the kitchen sync and Amilink.  It has no disk drives or 
> RAM.  What do I do?  How do the toaster ovens work?  Is there a way to 
> make my 2000 in to an oven for the Par? 

Yoour 200 is a perfect PAR oven. I'm not sure how much RAM: PAR needs to 
operate but it is not much.  You need a way to get the frames over to the 
2000.  I have never gotten PARNET to let the PAR in one machine to import 
frames from the toaster machine from LW or from a hd in the other 
machine.  I bet it could be done by setting up PARNET properly.  I 
used to sneakernet a hd from the toaster machine to thePAR machine.

Once you have the animation on th4e par, connect the PAR output to the 
toaster input one and use it like any other video source and toasterize 
the anims any way you want.  Having the PAR iand toaster in the same 
machine worked but not that well.  having seperate machines made fade ups 
and transistions using the anims and other graphics a snap.

I have a flyer now and have sold my PAR to help pay for it.  It is very 
flackey now but when the software is finally done it will be awesome but 
for now I wish I had a PAR in my second 2000s and probably will get one 
before it is all over.

Joe Freeman the Video Junky vidjunk@yakko.cs.wmich.edu



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I'm  one of those frustrated Flyer owners.  I haven't even delved into 
the bug ridden world of audio non-linear editing yet but getting my 
animations to clip has been a challenge.

I had to sell my PAR to get all I needed to use the flyer and still 
don't have a dedicated scsi-2 for the audio but I am primarily and 
animator.  I have to bid a rather simple 30 sec spot next seek and have to 
decide if I can get the hd and do it.  The job will pay for the drive and 
some but I still have big problems with the video.

I only got the quantum 2 gigers because I am doing mostly these ten 
second logos but the drives weren't supported by the flyer even though 
they were approved but had to go back for 6 weeks while NT and Quantum 
worked out a revision.  I finally got some anims going to clip through flyer 
(which takes like 40 secs on my system where I used to save framestore and 
compile them with the PAR in about 5 secs each).  I dare not render   
directly to clip because it doesn't seme to append. If there is crash (I 
got rid of most crashes by not running any commodities including my 
beloved Q-Mouse) I have to start rendering all over and it is hard to 
tell from the flyer editor what the last frame rendered was.  Anyway I find 
that the quality of the video clips were poor.  Finally there is this 
High Q5 mode that I finnally find out how to  get to on capture but now I 
am finding out that you can't get it from LW or arexx IFF2clip.  All they 
would have to do is write another arexx command for appending the next 
field to clip that uses the HighQ5 compression instead of the standard 
play which my drives don't seem to get good playaback from.

I can't seem to communicate all this that well with tech support.  I 
understand that the flyer is primarily for nop-linear video editoring. 
 They certainly have a long way to go till that part of the software 
up to  snuff.  I bought the Flyer primarily so I could get clean 
animations without the motion JPEG artifacts that show up more on logo 
anims that have simple lines.  More complex imagery requires more 
compression on the PAR but the artifacts are less noticible. I also 
wanted to have a more digital video environment for my work and be able 
to do non-linear editing easily.  Animators with Quantum 2 gigers are way 
down on their list of bug swatting and software design!

I have 8k tied up in this upgrade but still have to usually rent  back 
my PAR to do a job which is a grand pain in the butt.  Occasionaly 
an anim seems to behave well with my setup and I can use  what it 
does now.  But most of the time my clips are a color flickering mess.

One tech told me that LW4.0, when it finally arives, it won't have my 
problem fixed!  If they just fix the arexx command I would be happy.


I find the video playback very unpredictable.  I have to recalibrate 
often.  The system is not rock solid.   I captured a clip from a client 
yesterday for a project.  I used HQ5 and it looked good.  Latter in the 
day I got to working with it and the playback was unusable.  Stuttering and 
breakups.  Now I have to tell the client  to bring the original back for 
recapture.

Don't even get me started on tpaint for the A2000.  NT says that my 
combination of mega chip and the G-Force 040 is the source of a lot of my 
problems!!!  Duhhhh?   This was the setup of choice fo animators on a 
budget.  Faster than the 4000 and cheaper than a P&P or a 4000 with a 
warp, I chose the GVP.  Even Lee Stratahan had a column in VTU about how 
it was the best setup for LW.  Last fall I was at toaster U and Lee was 
telling us all to sell our PARs as the they would be a dime a dozen as 
the flyer was going to be the animation machine of chioce.  I had a buyer 
lined up for it at top dollar for 4 months but wouldn't sell it till I 
took delivery finally on the flyer.  Selling it was a big mistake as the 
price for used pars and the 1.7 drive have not dropped that much and I 
could really still be using it almost every day.  the Flyer is still in 
beta as far as I'm concerned.
  
This whole situation is getting a little old and holding up my business.  
Everyday I have thoughts of just selling the flyer and getting a PC and a 
Perception but I am reading that people are having trouble with that 
also.  the only saveing grace to that route would be that I could use one 
of the scsi-2's that I paid way to much for for the Perception and 
theother one would make a great drive for my system.

For a more detailled version of what tpaint does on my machine see my 
(video Junky) bug report on the NTBBS

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In the Last Minute Changes section of the manual under 
Lightwave3D Notes, Images panel on page 8, it talks about 
loading Flyer clips and using sliders to set the first and last
frame etc. I see no sign of this part of the panel. Flyer 
clips don't load directly as sequences so what's the story? 
How do you use Flyer clips as sequences?
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I have been a subscriber of the Lightwave and toaster newsgroup for about
two months.  In that time I have gathered a lot of useful information that
has been beneficial.  I have responded in kind to those who I could help.

During this time there has been much more negative press regarding the Flyer
than positive.  I realize that the folks using this service are looking for
answers to problems they've encountered but at the same time I wonder how
may Flyer systems there are out there that are working to some degree of
efficiency.

My objective in this post is to offer some positive posturing for the Flyer
system. Let me furnish some background for reference and qualification purposes.

Early on, in December of '93 I purchased a complete 4000 system, complete
with the Broadcaster, (then manufactured by the now defunct DMI,) along with
a Fastlane and two 2Gig Barracuda drives.  This was the leading edge of the
technology at the time as far as Amiga digital was concerned.

The purchase of this equipment was a nightmare from day one.  The company I
purchased it from, Anti gravity, shipped the computer with screws missing,
floating around in the housing, hard drives not formatted properly and the
list goes on.  This was purchased as a plug and play, ready to go system, as
per advertisement I might note that they were never of any assistance
through out the following ordeal.

DMI, the manufacturer,  was as helpful as they could be and I can honestly
say that they did try.  The Barracuda drives however, had the quote, "wrong
firmware" and the only solution would be to have Seagate change this.  Ha - ha!

To make a long story short, the Fastlane SCSI board had to be returned to
the US distributor for service before the hard drives could be formatted
with any lasting degree of success.  A process which took several weeks.
Once Fastlane was up and running the formatting finally worked but the
drives would not sustain the necessary transfer rate.

As helpful as DMI was with their technical support, the system was still a
long way from being useful.  Finally the Fastlane's home office in Germany
came up with a software program, (which I have a copy of,) to reset the firm
ware.  This worked but the board itself was an ongoing problem.  DMI had a
"fix" in the form of an upgrade in the works and the boards were to be
returned to them on a take a number and wait basis.  I sent mine in and waited.

DMI went bankrupt and the present manufacturer of the Broadcaster Elite
system under took meeting the obligations promised the original purchasers
of the system.  They returned, to their credit, the upgrade of the board
that I had sent back to DMI when they went out of business.  It worked and
still does.  Their software upgrades have all been excellent, each offering
advancements in the operation of the original product.  To my dismay how
ever, I have pre-paid for the promised Elite replacement system which at
this time is over six months overdue.  I'm still waiting on this system to
be completed and delivered as promised.

But that's the price of living on the edge of technology.  I have used the
upgraded Broadcaster  system in repeated productions encompassing everything
from corporate training videos to television commercials.  In short, this
system, given all of it's headaches, has made me a lot of money.  It is even
better for animation than the PAR system because of it's flexibility and
will continue to be serviceable for a long time to come.

The first toaster system I purchased was still in the BETA stages.  I still
have the beta documentation.  I grew with that system and the bugs that came
and went before it finally became a stable and totally useful product.
NewTek was always there,  sometimes not as timely as I would have liked but
in the end they furnished the solution.  This was defiantly leading edged
technology.  The toaster system and Lightwave, through it's stages and
upgrades have been instrumental in the production of several hundred
successful productions and two ongoing television shows since I originally
purchased the system.

The Present.

I pre-purchased the Flyer system and after a long wait, as for every one, it
arrived. Having been through the "Hard-Drive Wars" and being no stranger to
the inherent problems that could arise through the purchase of inadequate
drives, I contacted New Tek and got their recommendations.  Quantum ATLAS
SX34300s 4Gig drives with a firmware designation of f76D of 576D.  After
finally getting the budget together I purchased two of these drives and one
1.3 Gig Western digital for audio.

The original system arrived with the 4.0 software.  Upon receipt of the
drives and the necessary cabling I set up the system as per instructions, in
a 4000 system. Prior to installation, I downloaded consecutively 4.04a and
4.04B.  I installed the original and the upgrades in order.

After two days of experimentation, (having had plenty of time to study the
manuals before hand,) I set out to implement some updates and changes to a
series of training videos that I had completed or were in progress.  This
was accomplished without a hitch.  Everything worked beautifully.

I next completed four commercials.  One was and old customer on his third
commercial with me.  Three were new one of which was a national company. All
were more than pleased.

I have began implementing the Flyer into the production of two ongoing
weekly regional television series which I produce.  One is a real estate
show and the other is a collectable car and rod show.  I have found several
ways to make my life easier with the Flyer in these ongoing productions.

I know it will be some time before I completely understand the capabilities
of the system and a lot of the usable ARREXX programs, etc.  What there is I
like.  The CG is definitely an improvement as is the Toaster paint program.
Each has a ton of accessible ARREXX features in addition to the normal and
improved upgrade functions.

I look forward of course, and check in two or three times a week to see if
there are changes to the system.  The only thing I can see that would really
make things less stressful would be for New Tek to post progress reports of
some kind on their system.  Something simple such as a text file that be a
sort of newsletter.  Just a couple of paragraphs on a regular basis would be
nice.  The FAQ's are there but they're written in stone as of...

In any event, I have faith that there is a bright side to the Flyer system
and the plus's sure out weigh the minus's.  

Andy Stevens
Producer/Stevens Video Productions

Ulti-Media Productions
Stevens Video Productions      Andy Stevens
P.O. Box 444                         astevens@sos.sos.net
Anacortes, WA 98221

1-206-293-7044
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On Sun, 30 Jul 1995 Kathy@cup.portal.com wrote:

> loading Flyer clips and using sliders to set the first and last
> frame etc. I see no sign of this part of the panel. Flyer 
> clips don't load directly as sequences so what's the story? 
> How do you use Flyer clips as sequences?
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It currently is NOT implemented in the Lightwave with 4.04b and before, 
however, when Lightwave 4.0 is finished, it WILL include the feature as 
stated in the manual... (Manuals were printed before the option was 
added, and then there was the push for Lightwave 4.0 PC.

It's coming...

 J. David - Video GT

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You wrote: ¶
>¶
>I need to transfer an animation from my FLYER to BetaCam SP, I will have ¶
>to rent a BetaCam SP deck and want to make sure I have the right ¶
>cabling.  I need to transfer the audio as well as the video.  Can someone ¶
>tell me if BetaCam SP has BNC connectors or do I need special cable adaptors?¶
>¶
>Thanks in advance,¶
>¶
>Mario Cascio¶
>ProMotion¶
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Mario, the BetaSPs generally use XLR connectors for the audio. Just using a simple
adaptor for the sound will result in low audio. Smith A/V sells an adaptor box
that will do the trick. You can find their phone # and address in your Flyer manual.

Hope this helps.


Elliot Bain
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Greetings everybody,

What is the going price of a toaster 4000 system nowadays?  I know that
you have to search for Amiga 4000s... but I don't know what one would go 
for used.  Do any new ones in the box exist?
 
Also.. is this toaster for the PC going to be worth it?
I mean... 8 grand... come on..  It doesn't even run much off the PC does 
it? What, did the throw some amiga chips in the box?
 
My last question is this:  I have never actually seen a flyer in
operation.  What is the video quality and how well does the system
work?  Also, how much disk space does it gobble up to get good quality.. 
and how much money in hard drives do you have to spend to do some real work?
 
Excuse me if some of these question are old... it took me a while to find 
someone who knew the correct address to this list!
 
Blackout of Blackout Productions
 
& Blackout's Box
 
blackout@igc.net

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Greetings everybody,

What is the going price of a toaster 4000 system nowadays?  I know that
you have to search for Amiga 4000s... but I don't know what one would go 
for used.  Do any new ones in the box exist?
 
Also.. is this toaster for the PC going to be worth it?
I mean... 8 grand... come on..  It doesn't even run much off the PC does 
it? What, did the throw some amiga chips in the box?
 
My last question is this:  I have never actually seen a flyer in
operation.  What is the video quality and how well does the system
work?  Also, how much disk space does it gobble up to get good quality.. 
and how much money in hard drives do you have to spend to do some real work?
 
Excuse me if some of these question are old... it took me a while to find 
someone who knew the correct address to this list!
 
Blackout of Blackout Productions
 
& Blackout's Box
 
blackout@igc.net


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On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Blackout wrote:

> 
> 
> Greetings everybody,
> 
> What is the going price of a toaster 4000 system nowadays?  I know that
> you have to search for Amiga 4000s... but I don't know what one would go 
> for used.  Do any new ones in the box exist?

Can't help you with that one, sorry.

>  
> Also.. is this toaster for the PC going to be worth it?
> I mean... 8 grand... come on..  It doesn't even run much off the PC does 
> it? What, did the throw some amiga chips in the box?

Are you referring to the Toaster in the box that plugs into the PC or 
AMIGA SCSI ports? If so, from what I was told, the PC's would have to 
render colour (animated) transitions, while the Amiga would do them in 
realtime. Other than that, I don't know what else is different on it. 
Someone with one will surely fill you in shortly.

>  
> My last question is this:  I have never actually seen a flyer in
> operation.  What is the video quality and how well does the system
> work?  Also, how much disk space does it gobble up to get good quality.. 
> and how much money in hard drives do you have to spend to do some real work?

The (Toaster)Flyer uses a special file format for the frames, and is 
claimed to have D2 quality capability. I think the quality is great, but 
the Flyer software is still buggy (like many of the PC and Mac 
equivalents). Hopefully the bugs will be gone shortly.

Are you in the US, UK, Canada? It's hard quoting prices when we need to 
know where people hail from. *8^)

Suffice to say, there is a compatibility list of drives for the Flyer to 
try and keep an efficient rate of thruput going. As before, others shall 
elaborate on what you would be looking at.

>  
> Excuse me if some of these question are old... it took me a while to find 
> someone who knew the correct address to this list!
>  
> Blackout of Blackout Productions
> 

Good luck with the rest of the info you require.

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>From VIKING:

>Are you in the US, UK, Canada? It's hard quoting prices when we need to 
>know where people hail from. *8^)


I'm in the US, Fort Lauderdale to be exact.
 
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