AMOS Mailing List FAQ Updated September 7, 1994 by Michael Cox (aj639@cleveland.freenet.edu) (Items marked with ^ are new since last submission, September 1, 1994) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Part I RULES OF THE MAILING LIST 1. To subscribe or unsubscribe send the message to either me or amos-request@access.digex.net, DO NOT send them to the amos-list address. 2. Do NOT mail files larger than 4kb to the list as some people pay for the size of messages. If you want to distribute a file that is larger than 4kb: a) upload it to Aminet and post an announcement to the list b) email it to me and I will upload it to Aminet c) post a message to the list asking who wants it mailed to them and then mail it to those who give permission 3. Arguments over anything should be done via private email. 4. If a message is returned undeliverable to you, I will check the reason why and then decide if I should delete you from the list. So, if you do not get messages for 2 days in a row, email me and I will let you know what has happened. 5. No messages about pirating, removing protection from demos, etc. I don't have time to be a policeman, so let's try to be self-policing! Part II COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT AMOS 1) What is AMOS? AMOS is a BASIC language. It has many more commands than AmigaBASIC and can let you do more powerful things so it is a Superset of BASIC. If you can program in BASIC, you can code in AMOS. I think AMOS stands for AMiga Operating System but do not quote me on it! AMOS is an interpreted language but you can buy the Compiler for it which will let you compile your programs into an AmigaDOS executable. Then you can distribute your program without its source. Obviously, compiled programs are much faster. If you do not want to pay for the Compiler you can still distribute your programs using a runtime version of AMOS called RAMOS. 2) What is AMOS Pro and Easy AMOS? Well, first a bit of history. AMOS The Creator (AMOS) came first. Then, Easy AMOS was developed. Finally, less than a year ago (Oct 1992) AMOS Professional (Pro) was released. AMOS The Creator was first designed to be like the Atari's STOS but when Lionet saw how the Amiga was more powerful than the Atari he revamped it and made it a pure Amiga product. In the beginning AMOS and the manual were rough and found it hard to get along with all Amigas. However, due to the policy of free updates, AMOS is much more friendly to the AmigaOS. The manual has not been updated so do not be surprised to find 'undocumented' commands and features. Easy AMOS was designed to help introduce beginner programmers to AMOS and programming. A few commands were removed from AMOS and a better user interface was created to make the environment as friendly as possible. Also, the manual was designed with the beginner in mind and is more of a tutorial than a reference manual. AMOS Professional was designed with the professional coder in mind. The environment was revamped and made even better than Easy AMOS. It has a cleaner look with a better editor. Also, many new commands were added, making it the most complex of the 3. For those who have been with AMOS since its Creator days, you will know that Pro is much more friendlier to the AmigaOS and to machines with differing configurations. NOTE: Europress *AND* Francois Lionet have dropped all support for AMOS at this time. AMOS Pro may soon be on a coverdisk. Source code may be released to a small group for updating/fixing. We shall have to wait and see. 3) What is the latest versions? As of March 6, 1994, they are: AMOS The Creator v1.36 AMOS Compiler v1.36 AMOS Professional v2.0 AMOS Pro Compiler v2.0 4) Where can I get the updates? There are many ways: a) via FTP on all Aminet sites under dev/amos b) If you do not have FTP access, I can uuencode it and email it to you c) If you live in the USA, you can send me a disk and one 29 cent stamp for return postage and I will snail mail it to you. Email me for my Snail Mail address. If anyone knows of any other ways, please let me know so I can add it to the list. To update to AMOS Pro v2.0, you must buy the Pro Compiler. I have not seen or heard of any other way, so please correct me if I am wrong. 5) What extension slots are being used? AMOS AMOS Pro 1+ Music or EME v4.64 Music or EME v4.64 2 Compact v1.2 Picture Compactor v2.00 3 Request v1.41 Requester v2.00 4 3D v1.00 3D v1.02AP 5 Compiler v1.36 Pro Compiler v2.00 6 Serial v1.2 IO Devices v2.00 7 TOME v4.24 8 CText v2.5 9 Range (AMOS Club Ext.) v2.8 10 Dump Lib 10 LDos v2.5 LDos v2.5 11 LSer v2.1 LSer v2.1 12 TURBO PLUS v1.0 TURBO PLUS v1.0 14-* Intuition v1.0 Intuition v1.0 15 DSAM v???? DSAM v???? 16* EasyLife v1.4b EasyLife v1.4b 18 CRAFT v1.00 CRAFT v1.00 19 MusiCRAFT v1.00 MusiCRAFT v1.00 20-* AMOS OS Interface v3.4 AMOS OS Interface v3.4 21* PRT_Extension v1.1 PRT_Extension v1.1 22* JD_Extension v4.6 JD_Extension v4.6 (+ = EME is Enhanced Music Extension and is a replacement of the Music.Lib) (- = These are 2 Intuition extensions. Extension #14 is by Andrew Church and is excellently easy!) (* = Not official as far as I know, so the numbers may change) Please send me any corrections or additions. 6) What programs on the Internet are written in AMOS? These files are on Aminet: Filename Location Size Description -------------------- -------- ---- ----------- 3DAmosDemo.lha dev/amos 11K+AMOS demo source of 3D game acomp136.dms dev/amos 503K+Update AMOS Compiler to v1.36 amos-list.930601.lha dev/amos 122K+Archive containing AMOS related e-mail dis Amos.guide02.lha dev/amos 64K+A amigaguide help file for amos v0.2 amos136.dms dev/amos 570K+Update your version of AMOS to 1.36 amos92.dms dev/amos 576K+AMOS Programs from Amiga Computing. AMOSClubUK.lha dev/amos 12K+How North American AMOS coders can join AMOSList-0694.lzh dev/amos 39K+Messages about AMOS during June 1994 AMOSList-0794.lzh dev/amos 112K+Messages about AMOS during July 1994 AMOSList0993.lzh dev/amos 335K+Archive of messages in September 93 on the AMOSMEDPlayer.lha dev/amos 54K MED player for AMOS AmosMultiEnv11.lha dev/amos 37K+Select a .Env file on loading AMOS - Updat amosopal.lha gfx/board 12K+AMOS Extension to access Opal.library. AMOSPro-demo.dms biz/demo 550K BASIC like compiler language w/ gfx suppor Amos_ADTS.lha dev/amos 31K+Add Abstract Data type Support to Amos amos_modplay3.lha mus/play 108K+MOD. music player coded in AMOS amtudemo.lha dev/amos 68K+Demo of AMTUITION, allows simulation of In APME12.lha dev/amos 39K+Multiple Envoironments For AMOS Pro V1.12/ APME13.lha dev/amos 39K+Multiple Env's For AMOSPro - Update apro112.dms dev/amos 641K+PD Upgrade disk to v1.12 of AMOS Pro ChooseEnv.lha dev/amos 7K+Select a .Env file on loading AMOS CLR_Licenseware.lha dev/amos 23K+How to buy CLR Licenseware in North Americ ColConq_v105.lha game/think 213K A space strategy game with good graphics. EasyLife.lha dev/amos 18K+A New AMOS Extension EasyLife14b.lha dev/amos 33K+Easylife Extension for AMOSPro + More fleetv1.lha game/think 264K+Tactical Starship Combat hex map game FSelExt.lha dev/amos 1K+FSel Extension Procedures for AMOS and AMO helpacc.lha dev/amos 65K+Add online help to AMOS v1.3x HomeAccountant11.lha biz/misc 115K New Look/V1.1 with Source in AMOS 1.34 IDCMP.lha dev/amos 6K+Amos and Intuition. jdlib4_6.lha dev/amos 269K+Add lots of commands to AMOS Pro! Extensio Knights2.4.lha game/role 236K+Two-player violent dungeon bashing ldosv25d.lha dev/amos 75K new AMOS-commands. ARexx and MORE! lserv25d.lha dev/amos 37K new serial for AMOS. With XPR-support! MatrixBlaster.lha game/misc 299K TRON Light Cycles in AMOS mazegen.lha dev/amos 60K+Generate mazes for use with AMOS MOPSdentro.dms demo/mega 724K A dentro and a demo by MOPS of France NTSC_PAL.lha dev/amos 5K+NTSC<>PAL switcher accessory for AMOSPro ! PH_PROGS.lha dev/amos 11K+Five short usefull AMOS source programs PongTourney1.0.lha game/misc 118K+Pre-release of AMOS Pong game. ProcLib3.0.lha dev/amos 64K+A library of AMOS procedures projlist.txt dev/amos 24K+List of current projects by Amos users on RainMaker2Demo.lha dev/amos 37K AMOS utility for making rainbows roach.dms game/jump 292K+Platform game written in AMOS RUEDA.lha game/misc 188K Wheel of Fortune Game--GREAT GFX+SOUND SampleBankEditor.lha dev/amos 103K+Requires EasyLife Extension screenedv22.lha dev/amos 91K+Good AMOS(pro) ScreenEd for games ect... secrets.lha util/crypt 48K+SECRETS v0.1, Encrypter made in AMOS. BETA siit.lha dev/amos 85K+Icon editor for use with AMOS(pro) SRM-V2_2.lha dev/amos 17K+An upgrade to the Resource Bank Maker stars.lha dev/amos 7K+AGA Supporting AMOS extension with starfie stormcrunch2.lha dev/amos 91K+AMOS cruncher for files/executables (AMOS! strong1.lha dev/amos 94K+Demo using TURBO in AMOS swarm.lha dev/amos 56K+Swarm! lines fly to mouse pointer - very c tamelibs.lha dev/amos 21K+Addendum to amos92.dms for TAME TBSdemo9.lha dev/amos 106K+AMOS Bob/Sprite editor. tscene1.lha dev/amos 147K+Demo of scene/map editor with TURBO Plus turbo1.lha dev/amos 103K+Demo of TURBO Plus. Includes full list of turbo19.lha dev/amos 89K+TURBO extension for AMOS Pro! TV125b.lha game/jump 154K+TechnoVenture v1.25b (Platform game) ZoneEditor.AMOS.lha dev/amos 17K+A New AMOS Accessory ^AMOSList-0894.lzh dev/amos 177K+Messages about AMOS during August 1994 ^Am_Mui10.lha dev/amos 65K+ Use MUI from AMOSPro ^bootcontroller10.lha disk/misc 63K+ Password protection for hard dis ^codefinder.lha game/think 90K+ Mastermind type game ^mimic.lha game/misc 101K+ Simon type game for workbench ^ppAccessory10.lha dev/amos 43K*A set of AMOS Professional Accessory progr ^VarCheck101.lha dev/amos 11K+ Update to easylife variable checker ^ZoneEditor3.lha dev/amos 65K*Includes Editor Enhancer. Please send additions to me via email.(aj639@cleveland.freenet.edu) 7) What AMOS clubs are there besides the AMOS UK club run by Aaron Fothergill? Here is some info, furnished by Ryan Scott (rscott@gate.net): PLAYFIELD! Po Box 450884 Sunrise FL 33345-0884 (305) 846-7969 (305) 846-8388 FAX (305) 456-0126 BBS AMOS international /X net Publishes a monthly newsletter devoted to AMOS, has a large public domain and licenseware library, publishers of the TURBO PLUS Extension. Free info. Editor, Ryan Scott Klub AMOS France DP 133 18003 Bourges Cedex France ++(33) 482 48375 FAX Contact is Denis Bernard. I don't know what they do exactly. Australian AMOS Club PO Box 168 Willoughby Australia NSW 2068 +61 2 528 2645 voice/FAX Publish an excellent newsletter 4 x a year, have large PD library and active users. Wayne Johnson is the editor. The Mr AMOS Club 8 Magnolia Park Dunmurry BT17 ODS Northern Ireland 0232 626694 Excellent AMOS support in the UK and elsewhere. Provided by Brian Bell, Mr AMOS himself. Publish an excellent disk magazine, and has PD. The AMOS Club USA PO Box 11434 Milwaukee WI 53211 Publish a bi-monthly newsletter. Mark Schultz, editor. Have AMOS PD. Totally AMOS and the Official AMOS PD Library 17 Wick Farm Road St Lawrence Bay Nr Southminster Essex CM0 7PF UK Publish Totally AMOS disk magazine, maintain the only 'official' AMOS PD library with APD disks totalling over 600. Run by Anne Tucker, and Len Tucker. 8) RUMORS ^Brian Bell's Mr. AMOS Club (listed in section 7) were apparently robbed right ^after they moved into a new building and did not have insurance. They lost ^5000pounds worth of equipment and have had to sell the rights to Charlie Chimp ^I and II, and Spacefighter to get some minimal equipment. Their PD disk has ^stoppped as of issue 6. No word as to whether or not they will start again. ^9) BOOKS ^AMOS IN ACTION by Len Tucker. Published by KUMA. ^AMIGA GAME MAKER'S MANUAL by Stephen Hill. Published by SIGMA. ^ULTIMATE AMOS by Jason Holborn 10) AmiNet Sites Country Machine Name IP address Directory -------------------------------------------------------------------- USA (MO) ftp.wustl.edu 128.252.135.4 pub/aminet/ USA (CA) ftp.cdrom.com 192.216.222.5 pub/aminet/ USA (TX) ftp.etsu.edu 192.43.199.20 pub/aminet/ USA (WI) ftp.netnet.net 198.70.64.3 pub/aminet/ Scandinavia ftp.luth.se 130.240.18.2 pub/aminet/ Switzerland ftp.eunet.ch 146.228.10.16 pub/aminet/ Switzerland ftp.math.ethz.ch 129.132.104.6 pub/aminet/ Switzerland litamiga.epfl.ch 128.178.151.32 pub/aminet/ (*) Germany ftp.uni-paderborn.de 131.234.2.32 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.uni-erlangen.de 131.188.3.2 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.uni-bielefeld.de 129.70.4.55 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.uni-oldenburg.de 134.106.40.9 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.uni-kl.de 131.246.9.95 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.uni-stuttgart.de 129.96.8.13 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.uni-siegen.de 141.99.128.1 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de 130.149.17.7 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.stud.fh-heilbronn.de 141.7.1.41 pub/aminet/ Germany ftp.tu-chemnitz.de 192.108.33.193 pub/aminet/ UK ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk 146.169.2.1 pub/aminet/ UK micros.hensa.ac.uk 148.88.8.84 pub/aminet/ (*) closed 6:30am to 4pm weekdays or try Searching gopherspace with ARCHIE, VERONICA, or JUGHEAD! End of FAQ Mike